[00:59] <Nick7569> Hello is there a way to make TextArea have html tags ?
[01:01] <Nick7569> I will try Text.NativeRendering
[01:03] <Nick4265> does not work
[01:03] <Nick4265> does not work
[01:05] <Nick3976> Yeah niether Text.NativeRendering nor QtRendering wil work
[01:08] <dudelove> see http://imgur.com/T2ivM58
[01:29] <jakssoule> What's Ubuntu Touch's current application support consist of as far as legacy Ubuntu apps go? (X11 applications and whatnot.)
[08:18] <dholbach> good morning
[11:09] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:11] <sil2100> Morning
[11:23] <tsdgeos> file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Tabs.qml:394: ReferenceError: undefined is not defined
[11:24] <tsdgeos> zsombi: timp: ↑↑↑
[11:25] <zsombi> tsdgeos: :) interesting... but you can forget about that :)
[11:25] <tsdgeos> sure
[11:25] <tsdgeos> it's just a very weird warning :D
[11:25] <zsombi> tsdgeos: Tabs will be reworked, toolbar will vanish...
[11:25] <tsdgeos> any clue what causes it?
[11:25] <zsombi> tsdgeos: no idea....
[11:26] <zsombi> tsdgeos: have you got some new design about the tabs?
[11:26] <tsdgeos> zsombi: nope, why?
[11:26] <zsombi> tsdgeos: because Tabs won't anymore look like they do now...
[11:27] <zsombi> tsdgeos: and the TabBar will loose its current behavior...
[11:27] <tsdgeos> zsombi: well i guess design wants that? so they want that for the dash too
[11:27] <tsdgeos> hope they don't expect us to deviate from the sdk again
[11:28] <zsombi> tsdgeos: the homescreen will no longer scroll from the tabs, only thru swiping horizontally
[11:28] <zsombi> tsdgeos: and no more toolbar, that vanishes
[11:28] <tsdgeos> and they probably want that for yesterday
[11:28] <zsombi> tsdgeos: actually you will need to use the header stuff from UITK
[11:29] <zsombi> tsdgeos: obviously :D
[11:31] <seb128> mardy, hey, can we get a gnome-control-center-signon package update for unity-control-center in trusty?
[11:40] <mardy> seb128: yep, the code is in trunk; dbarth: can you enter a Landing Ask for it? ^
[11:40] <seb128> mardy, thanks
[12:00] <dbarth> seb128, mardy: will do
[12:00] <dbarth> seb128: is thre a bug reference for the change you need?
[12:01] <seb128> dbarth, thanks
[12:02] <seb128> dbarth, bug #1257505
[12:02] <seb128> dbarth, it's the last package that needs to be transitioned for that one to be complete
[12:02] <SquirrelCZECH_> hi folks
[12:02] <SquirrelCZECH_> :)
[12:03] <SquirrelCZECH_> ow is Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 7? (that one with 1280x800 res, Tegra 3 etc...)
[12:03]  * SquirrelCZECH_ got a chance to buy one for cheap price...
[12:15] <davmor2> Hey guys is quit in the hud meant to actually quit the app?
[12:19] <popey> davmor2: bug 1269409
[12:19] <davmor2> popey: thanks
[12:41] <cwayne> cjwatson, hi, for the preinstalled click packages in the customized build, we've just been pushing the clicks to the device, installing to /custom/click and then tarring up and pulling /custom/click, was wondering if there's an easier, more-supported way to do that?
[12:56] <Dilawar> Hello
[12:56] <Dilawar> every one
[12:56] <Dilawar> I need help regarding installing ubuntu touch on sony arc s
[12:57] <Dilawar> ?
[12:58] <greyback> Dilawar: hey, just asking for help won't get you many replies. Instead please ask the specific question you have in mind, and if someone knows the answer, they can reply
[12:58] <popey> !devices | Dilawar
[12:58] <popey> is the device listed there?
[12:58] <Dilawar> nop
[12:59] <Dilawar> its sony ericsson arc s
[12:59] <popey> then you need to find someone to port ubuntu to it
[13:00] <Dilawar> how do I port ubuntu to it. Appologies for sounding stupid?
[13:25] <cjwatson> 14:32 <mhall119> actually, this doesn't even need work in click packages, I just need the device images to say "You can install click packages for frameworks ubuntu-sdk-13.10 *or* ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev"
[13:25] <cjwatson> mhall119: all you need to do for that is to have the images ship both framework files
[13:26] <cjwatson> cwayne: that's OK, but maybe we could extend livecd-rootfs/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/60-install-click.chroot or something
[13:33] <darkdragon-001> has anyone installed Ubuntu Phone on Nexus 5? If yes, which image did you take?
[13:34] <cwayne> cjwatson, hm yeah, i'll have to take a look.  i tried installing it into the source of the custom tarball, but then the symlinks all point to like "~/Projects/custom-tarball/system/custom/click" which is obviously not correct :)
[13:37] <popey> darkdragon-001: don't think there's a nexus 5 image available yet?
[13:38] <ogra_> darkdragon-001, see the mailing list, there are experimental images
[13:41] <ogra_> darkdragon-001, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909181/ should work for you if you replace "mako" in line 3 with "hammerhead"
[13:42] <darkdragon-001> thanks :)
[13:42] <ogra_> oh, wait, the tarball wont work ...
[13:43] <ogra_> (it does not have the latest Mir ... hmm)
[13:43] <darkdragon-001> Is it so much different from the previous version (Nexus 4 or Nexus 7)?
[13:44] <ogra_> darkdragon-001, grab the three files and instead of all the rootstock stuff, after fastboot flashing the boot and recovery images, just sideload http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-touch-4.4.2-mir.rootfs-armhf.zip
[13:45] <ogra_> that wont get you an ubuntu-system image but should at least get you ubuntu touch to get an impression
[14:15] <mhall119> cjwatson: thanks
[14:42] <cwayne> is it possible to override a job in /etc/init/ by placing the .override in ~/.config/upstart?
[14:43] <Valduare> question - on something like an asus transformer - when you "dock it" with the keyboard/mouse   will it go to full ubuntu?
[14:47] <jodh> cwayne: no, ecause /etc/init is used by PID 1 whereas ~/.config/upstart is used by the Session Init. So you can only override a session job by putting the .override in ~/.config/upstart/ - system-level job overrides only live in /etc/init/
[14:48] <cwayne> jodh, thanks, that's what I figured
[14:49] <jodh> cwayne: see init(5) for full details.
[14:50] <cwayne> jodh, thanks
[14:53] <mardy> jdstrand: hi! It seems that, for an app installed with click, QCoreApplication::applicationName() returns the package component only (not the app name and version); is this expected and correct?
[15:08] <xnox> when i try phablet-test-run i get a lot of unknown instance on every click app launch, is that known?
[15:10] <ogra_> xnox, did you run the prepare commands ?
[15:11] <xnox> ogra_: yeah.
[15:11] <ogra_> weird
[15:12] <xnox> i'll reflash to fresh image and try again.
[15:15] <Valduare> on something like an asus transformer - when you "dock it" with the keyboard/mouse  will it go to full ubuntu?
[15:17] <sergiusens> xnox, unkown instance is because autopilot polls for the upstart job
[15:17] <sergiusens> until it's found
[15:18] <ogra_> oh, right
[15:18] <ogra_> Valduare, in 15.10 perhaps :)
[15:18] <xnox> sergiusens: but it's up and available....
[15:18] <xnox> sergiusens: i see it with initctl list...
[15:18] <Valduare> ogra_: well thats not very fun :P
[15:18] <xnox> sergiusens: i thought there was a merge proposal from slangasek to fix this however (such that polling is not needed)
[15:18] <sergiusens> xnox, then autopilot lost track
[15:19] <sergiusens> if you have an mr I can also look
[15:20] <xnox> sergiusens: i'm trying to test https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/phablet-tools/py2-3/+merge/205608
[15:20] <ogra_> Valduare, what you request will require Mir to actually support this ... currently it does not even support a mouse pointer
[15:21] <xnox> sergiusens: and i can't figure out if my changes broke everything, or i'm just failing to drive ./phablet-test-run correctly.
[15:21] <ogra_> Valduare, we also do not have any convergence work started yet, this will start in 14.10 (as announced in several places)
[15:21] <xnox> sergiusens: when testing use ./phablet-click-test-setup and ./phablet-test-run from that branch.
[15:21] <Valduare> ok
[15:22] <Valduare> I think that form factor is going to be the bee's knees
[15:22] <Valduare> tablet that's dock able
[15:22] <Shiggitay|Funtoo> rsalveti, r u here
[15:22] <Valduare> even possibly phone that can dock into a tablet and then to a keyboard/mouse dock   OR a desktop dock
[15:23] <ogra_> Valduare, for sure, it is just that we are still far from supporting that ... first we need a stable phone system ... then we will slowly extend that to other form factors and in the end take over the desktop with it
[15:23] <ogra_> that process might strech across a few releases
[15:24] <Valduare> while I'm dreaming- i'd also like a nice solid aluminum and glass phone for ubuntu to run on :P
[15:25]  * ogra_ would have liked an ubuntu edge phone ... but well, cant hve everything 
[15:25] <xnox> sergiusens: actually, i think my merge proposal is buggy, it's working now.
[15:25] <xnox> and reflash / resetup probably helped.
[16:01] <dednick> anyone here know if we can somehow increase the size of the root partition on device?
[16:55] <cwayne> stgraber, ping -- can we get a -demo channel setup?
[16:56] <davmor2> hmmm who is responsible for the About Phone Page in settings?  A table isn't a phone honest is there a way we can make it smarter?
[16:57] <sergiusens> just call it About device
[16:58] <stgraber> cwayne: if you have the details, yes (what it's based on what extra tarballs, downloaded from where, ...)
[16:59] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, davmor2 or just plain About
[17:00] <sergiusens> works for me
[17:32] <Laney> We are design-led, so you need to get that updated instead of just designing.
[17:32] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutThisDevice#Phone
[17:32] <Laney> file a bug and assign mpt.
[17:32] <Laney> s/designing/deciding/
[17:33] <cwayne> ooh, that looks nice with suru-dark
[17:35] <pmcgowan> cwayne, is it easy to change themes? we dont have ui for that yet do we?
[17:36] <cwayne> pmcgowan, no, i was just saying on that wiki page Laney pasted its in suru-dark, and it looks nicer than whats actually on the phone
[17:36] <cwayne> pmcgowan, there's no ui, but editing /home/phablet/.config/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/theme.ini would work
[17:37] <pmcgowan> cwayne, ack
[17:38] <mpt> davmor2, bug 1258211
[17:39] <davmor2> mpt: fantastic thanks :)
[17:42] <mhall119> who's the primary developer for the messaging-app?
[17:44] <davmor2> mhall119: you volunteering? ;)
[17:44] <mhall119> nope
[17:47] <sergiusens> mhall119, boiko or renato or salem_
[17:47] <renato> mhall119, sergiusens, the main developer is salem_
[17:48] <salem_> mhall119, hey
[18:03] <mhall119> salem_: hey, is it by design that the header doesn't hide when you scroll messages? or can I propose an MP to fix it?
[18:05] <salem_> mhall119, I think that was a design decision, so the recipient is always visible.
[18:12] <mhall119> it takes up too much space
[18:12] <mhall119> salem_: who was the designer?
[18:28] <msvb-lab> Anyone know if <newproj>.qmlproject.user files from Ubuntu-SDK new projects should be checked into revision control?
[18:28] <msvb-lab> ...or maybe must be checked in for some reason?
[18:29] <msvb-lab> ...or should not be checked in?
[18:29] <mhall119> msvb-lab: .user files should not be in version control
[18:29] <msvb-lab> mhall119: Why not, does Ubuntu-SDK store passwords and private UUIDs in them without the developer knowing?
[18:30] <msvb-lab> Trying to figure out why no 'ignore' file is generated with the .qmlproject.user file by default.
[18:31] <msvb-lab> When I look in a freshly generated .qmlproject.user file there's nothing harmful, and the tab and style definitions could be useful to others.
[18:32] <msvb-lab> ...but my gut feeling is that mhall119 is right, that they shouldn't be checked in.
[18:35] <mhall119> msvb-lab: it's generally user preferences for the project (and maybe local-specific settings and paths)
[18:35] <mhall119> not the kind of thing that everybody in the project wants to have the same values for
[18:35] <msvb-lab> Okay, you're right. And I don't want to advertise the paths of my filesystem to the public either.
[18:36] <msvb-lab> ...so wouldn't it be a good idea to generate a 'ignore' file with a .qmlproject.user entry on new project creation?
[19:03] <kenvandine> tedg, ping
[19:04] <kenvandine> tedg, i'm not nagging about those ual branches :)
[19:04] <tedg> kenvandine, Howdy, back in the cold North?
[19:04] <kenvandine> tedg, i have a backtrace that hints at ual though :)
[19:04] <kenvandine> tedg, we did have a little snow today :)
[19:04] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910724/
[19:05] <kenvandine> that is with ual built with all of those proposed branches
[19:05] <tedg> kenvandine, Which set, the ones in silo now?
[19:05] <kenvandine> tedg, including workaround-lp1277737
[19:05] <kenvandine> all the ones in +activereviews
[19:05] <kenvandine> i can't reproduce that crash on the desktop at all
[19:06] <kenvandine> but i can hit it pretty reliably on the phone
[19:06] <tedg> Ah, oh, that's a lot of them.
[19:06] <kenvandine> indeed :)
[19:06] <tedg> kenvandine, Can you translate that line number for me?
[19:06] <kenvandine> if i do things that trigger calling start_application in relatively short intervals from the hub
[19:07] <kenvandine> sure
[19:08] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910745/
[19:08] <kenvandine> line 36 there is 468
[19:08] <tedg> Hmm, okay.
[19:08] <kenvandine> i can't reproduce it at all on the desktop though
[19:09] <kenvandine> i've beat the crap out of it and no crash
[19:09] <tedg> It's clearly not NULL as it's 0x54...
[19:09] <kenvandine> but switching between apps with the hub 3 or 4 times on the phone and it crashes
[19:09] <kenvandine> indeed
[19:10] <kenvandine> tedg, racey?
[19:10] <tedg> kenvandine, Possible to run under valgrind?  Perhaps a memory section being overwritten?
[19:10] <kenvandine> ugh... not sure i want to try that on my n4
[19:11] <tedg> That data structure is allocated each time, so it really shouldn't matter what independent runs do.
[19:15]  * rickspencer3 upgrades to 173
[19:19] <kenvandine> tedg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910825/
[19:19] <kenvandine> tedg, slight variation...
[19:19] <kenvandine> line 471 is         g_free(data->dbus_path);
[19:19] <tedg> kenvandine, Guessing it must be double freeing that structure
[19:19] <kenvandine> and line 65 is                 if (timespent > 500 /* ms */ * 1000 /* ms to us */) {
[19:19] <kenvandine>                         second_exec_complete(data);
[19:19] <kenvandine> that's 64 and 65
[19:20] <tedg> Probably just need to convert it to an object to better handle the referencing.
[19:20] <kenvandine> so maybe these crashes are directly related to that last branch?
[19:20] <tedg> The workaround one?
[19:20] <kenvandine> yeah
[19:20] <stgraber> cwayne: sorry for the delay, we had a couple of stuff publishing at the same time, taking over an hour to import, then I found a whole lot of the customization channels were broken due to the dropped /build/ (not all of them dropped it so things weren't terribly consistent in the config)
[19:20] <tedg> No, that's not in the lib
[19:20] <kenvandine> ah... ok
[19:21] <stgraber> cwayne: I "think" I fixed everything now and I'm running the importer again in debug mode to check that everything is clean
[19:22] <tedg> kenvandine, Could you check to see if you can get it to happen with silo 5?  https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-005/
[19:22] <tedg> kenvandine, Give a good place to start bisecting.
[19:23] <cwayne> stgraber, oh crap, im sorry about the /build/ thing, I can make them all go there if it's easier/more maintainable for you
[19:24] <stgraber> cwayne: they seem to all be using that but savilerow-trusty at the moment, so yeah, if you change that last one just let me know and I'll update the config to reflect that
[19:24] <kenvandine> tedg, sure
[19:25] <kenvandine> tedg, too bad we don't have dbg packages in the silo's
[19:25] <cwayne> stgraber, ah, im afraid savilerow-trusty is actually the 'right' one, so if we were to update them it'd be putting the other ones into /build/
[19:25] <tedg> kenvandine, Isn't that something that can be turned on in an individual PPA basis?
[19:26] <stgraber> cwayne: oh right, well, whatever, I think my config is currently right so let's keep things as they are for now ;)
[19:26] <kenvandine> tedg, i think so
[19:26] <cwayne> stgraber, works for me :)
[19:30] <kenvandine> tedg, with the silo http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910885/
[19:30] <kenvandine> no line number... but looks similar
[19:31] <kenvandine> g_variant_release_children
[19:31] <tedg> Yeah, interestingly a more sane value for the unref() call.
[19:33] <tedg> Trying to figure how I could recreate...
[19:33] <stgraber> cwayne: alright, all your channels should be up to date now
[19:34] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910905/
[19:34] <stgraber> cwayne: that may be quite a bump for some of them as some were failing since the 30th of January
[19:34] <kenvandine> tedg, is that useful?
[19:34] <cwayne> stgraber, is it not automatically aliased to devel-*?
[19:34] <cwayne> stgraber, oof, ok, thanks!
[19:34] <kenvandine> output completed resume twice for a single start_application call
[19:36] <stgraber> cwayne: on failure, the importer just skips the channel/device, so since those have been failing for a while, you also didn't have images
[19:36] <cwayne> that would be just the -generic and saucy ones i think, so those haven't changed in awhile anyway
[19:37] <tedg> kenvandine, Yeah, just a sec.
[19:37] <kenvandine> tedg, interestingly it looks like it prints that resume command in multiples, growing depending on the number of times i've raised the app
[19:37] <kenvandine> and earlier log printed that 4 times in a row
[19:37] <tedg> kenvandine, Yeah, I think we're not unsubscribing
[19:38] <kenvandine> yay... glad to see there's a lead :)
[19:41] <tedg> kenvandine, Writing a test to prove it, but I'm pretty sure this is the fix: lp:~ted/upstart-app-launch/signal-disconnect
[19:48] <kenvandine> tedg, thx, building it now
[19:52] <tedg> kenvandine, Okay, test for that fix.  If that's not your problem you have a different one :-)
[19:52] <kenvandine> i'll know in about 5m :)
[19:53]  * kenvandine waits for debs...
[19:54] <kenvandine> my phone is getting a bit warm :)
[19:55] <tedg> kenvandine, Feature for cold winter days.
[19:56] <tedg> We'll allow you to add your phone to the build pool.
[19:57] <kenvandine> tedg, yay!
[19:57] <kenvandine> it did fix it!
[19:57] <kenvandine> thanks!
[19:57] <kenvandine> on that note... time for lunch :)
[19:58] <ybon> when an image got promotted, does this means that it's the new "devel-proposed" or the new "devel" ?
[19:58] <tedg> Great, thanks for the info kenvandine!
[19:59] <Yamagata> hello thar
[19:59] <Yamagata> whoops, wrong channel
[20:14] <thomi> tedg: hey - any news on the libUAL landings?
[20:15] <stgraber> ogra_: heads up, I have now upgraded system-image on the server to current trunk (which includes the bits for OEM/ports). In theory none of those bits are even used on the main server, nevertheless, if you do spot any behaviour change in the next couple of days, please let me know immediately.
[20:15] <stgraber> I also tweaked the locking mechanism a bit, should be more robust that way
[20:27] <tedg> thomi, The second set is now "tested"
[20:31] <thomi> tedg: does the second set include what I need?
[20:31] <tedg> thomi, It includes the failure signal but not the GIR bindings.  They're next.
[20:31] <thomi> ok
[20:31] <ajalkane> anyone know if new emulator image available?
[20:31] <thomi> we can't land them all together at once?
[20:32] <tedg> thomi, Well the argument is to decrease risk by landing set by set.
[20:32] <thomi> tedg: yeah, ok
[20:43] <darkdragon-001> My wifi on my Nexus 4 is not working. Should this work or is it just not implemented?
[20:44] <kenvandine> tedg, thanks for the fix... now my content-hub branch is behaving beautifully!
[20:44] <kenvandine> darkdragon-001, should be working fine
[20:44] <kenvandine> works on my n4
[20:45] <darkdragon-001> I installed the latest devel release.
[20:46] <darkdragon-001> Am I right that there should be a wifi indicator when wifi works correctly? and where do I search for networks? In the settings? There is only a button for me...
[20:46] <kenvandine> you should see access points in the wifi indicator
[20:46] <kenvandine> and should show status properly
[20:46] <kenvandine> works well for me, with the trusty-proposed channel
[20:49] <darkdragon-001> when I boot it up, there is the wifi indicator for a short time and then it disappears when I swipe down from top. In the settings app, there is only a button "auto-join previous networks" in the wifi menu
[21:05] <darkdragon-001> kenvadine: doesnt work with trusty-proposed eigher for me...
[21:07] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, did you just install for the first time or has this been working before?
[21:08] <darkdragon-001> well I installed it about a year ago. Back then it was working. April to today, I used Android again. And today I did the full process (unlock bootloader, install, ...)
[21:08] <bfiller> tedg: can you update your MR from trunk and re-submit, getting a conflict: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/address-book-app/url-dispatcher
[21:08] <bfiller> trying to get that released
[21:08] <tedg> Sure
[21:08] <bfiller> something else got added to the .install file
[21:08] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, it may be the 4.4 radio firmware issue, check instructions here:
[21:08] <pmcgowan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Getting_phone_calls_to_work_in_Ubuntu_and_Android_4.4
[21:09] <darkdragon-001> well it seems that mobile networking is working...
[21:10] <darkdragon-001> But I could try the radio downgrade. Thanks for the link...
[21:11] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, can you check which version you are running  adb shell cat /etc/system-image/channel.ini
[21:11] <tedg> bfiller, Updated
[21:11] <bfiller> tedg: thanks!
[21:11] <cyb3rkn19ht> With the 4.4 radio and trusty I have working mobile networking and texting. I don't need WiFi.
[21:12] <darkdragon-001> pmcgowan: trusty-proposed, like I said
[21:12] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, ah ok, should work then
[21:12] <darkdragon-001> cyb3rkn19ht: same for me. but instead I prefer to use wifi when at home...