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* pleia2 waves03:00
pleia2meeting time :)03:00
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pleia2who all do we have here for the meeting?03:00
epsmeh03:00
jyoo/03:01
pleia2alrighty03:01
pleia2only thing on the agenda is scale :)03:01
rwwo/03:01
pleia2https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x03:02
darthrobotTitle: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x - Ubuntu Wiki]03:02
pleia2#topic SCaLE12x03:02
pleia22 weeks away, woo03:02
epsAre we doing this thing? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects still shows its status as "Proposed"03:03
darthrobotTitle: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects - Ubuntu Wiki]03:03
pleia2lol03:03
eps...and Philip still hasn't sent me registration information03:03
pleia2weird, he sent it to others03:04
rwwreminds me, I need to get mine changed over to the shiny free one03:04
pleia2I'll send an email and loop you in03:04
rwwalso I don't think there was a spot for my gnupg key on the registration thing o.O03:04
pleia2should there be? :)03:05
rwwyes03:06
pleia2eps: so re: candy, at this point I'm thinking M&Ms03:06
epsrww: Is this for the Key Signing Party? http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale12x/pgp-key-signing-party03:07
darthrobotTitle: [PGP Key Signing Party | SCALE 12x]03:07
rwweps: yes03:07
pleia2ah03:08
pleia2not sure we have anything else to talk about really03:09
pleia2I did have a fellow from the AZ team mention they'd be happy to take any 12.04 leftover CDs off our hands at the end of the event03:10
pleia2and jose from peru will be helping us with the booth!03:11
joseo/03:11
rwwo/ jose03:11
josehey rww! going too?03:11
pleia2philip said he'd be a few minutes later for this meetnig, might just wait for him to join us and see if there's anything else he wants to talk about03:12
rwwjose: yep :)03:12
joseawesome03:12
rwwphilip's coming online now03:15
rwwmuch psychic03:15
pleia2philipballew: about to wrap up un-noteworthy meeting item about scale, anything you wanted to add/announce/etc?03:15
pleia2rww: I remain unconvinced :)03:17
josewhoops, he's pinging timeout03:20
pleia2flooding actually03:21
pleia2not sure what that's about03:21
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rwwclient probably doesn't have rate control set up properly, so automatic /who or something is breaking it03:22
pleia2yeah03:22
pleia2fun times03:23
rwwyep03:23
pleia2ok, we'll move on and hopefully he'll get sorted ;)03:23
rwwi've flooded out once that I can remember, but that was freenode's fault :303:23
pleia2#topic Any other business03:23
epsUbuntu Hours?03:23
pleia2there was one today in Berkeley, hope that went well :)03:24
pleia2coming up this wednesday we're having one in San Francisco: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2682-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/03:24
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]03:24
pleia2also a debian dinner after03:24
jyoSo hard to support local businesses... but hey, Starbucks stars. ;)03:24
ianorlinboth are too far away for me to attened being in Torrance03:24
pleia2ianorlin: Pasadena has them sometimes03:25
pleia2I think that's currently the closest one to you03:25
pleia2philipb: did you have anything to talk about re: scale?03:25
philipballewoh hey there03:25
philipballewpleia2, email sent03:26
philipbnot so far. I will send out a reminder email to everyone at the end of the week03:26
pleia2thanks03:26
philipbthe conf pack will be here in a few days.03:26
pleia2from Canonical?03:26
philipbyes03:26
pleia2great03:26
philipb:)03:26
rwwis the debian dinner going to involve repeated voting over what to eat03:27
pleia2hahah03:27
rww(also: i will be there unless work is more tiring than usual)03:28
pleia2yay03:28
pleia2ok, anyone have anything else?03:28
rwwwe should probably start thinking soon about 14.04 release03:30
rwwlike, not this meeting, but soon03:30
pleia2good idea, I'll add it to the agenda for the next meeting03:30
epsWe're still basking in the glow of 12.04.4 LTS.03:30
* ianorlin is already testing 14.04 for lubuntu03:31
pleia2which will be on March 9, since we're skipping the everyone-coming-home-from-scale night03:31
rwwand there's a global jam coming up, so if anyone is interested in that it'd be something to look into03:31
pleia2rww: have the details handy?03:31
rwwhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2656/03:31
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu Global Jam | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]03:31
rwwit's a weekend, Fri, 04 April 2014 to Sun, 06 April 201403:31
pleia2cool03:32
rwwI don't have much to contribute for that, but if someone's been looking for an event idea, there's one03:32
pleia2it's so close to release03:33
rwwindeed, timing's a bit odd, since anything fixed there (bugs or what not) won't be in 14.0403:33
pleia2yeah03:33
pleia2trying to think of things to do, but that's even too late for documentation review03:34
rwwmarketing material creation, I guess03:34
rwwUbuntu Touch or other stuff that isn't production ready and has ongoing work03:34
pleia2yeah, there's always that :)03:34
* pleia2 nods03:34
epsCould someone please update the "Current Ubuntu Release" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam to something that hasn't already been EOLed?03:35
darthrobotTitle: [CaliforniaTeam - Ubuntu Wiki]03:35
rwweps: I'm going to go through and update the wiki Sometime Soon03:35
pleia2eps: still no luck logging in to the wiki? :(03:35
rwwsince there are a few things like that03:35
pleia2we do still struggle to keep that updated, it's tough03:35
epsIt still wasn't working as of the last time I tried, which was about a week ago.03:35
pleia2in this particular case I think we should think about dropping that "current release" thing because it's a bit of a random thing for a loco to mention03:36
rwwagreed03:36
pleia2thanks for having that on your list, rww :)03:36
rwwpleia2: are you still handling paperwork? team reports and what not?03:36
* rww has "look into what leadership is supposed to be doing" on the list somewhere too03:37
pleia2rww: january reports are on my todo list ;) but generally yes03:38
pleia2help is appreciated always03:38
pleia2leadership mostly just makes sure we have meetings and that people are kept informed/on track03:38
rwwah, okay. I'm not missing anything then03:39
* eps has gone off the rails :-(03:39
pleia2heh03:40
pleia2alright, time to wrap up?03:40
* rww nods03:40
pleia2ok, thanks everyone03:40
pleia2see you at scale!03:40
pleia2(or at sf ubuntu hour :))03:40
pleia2#endmeeting03:40
darthrobotMeeting ended Mon Feb 10 03:40:50 2014 UTC.03:40
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rwwDo we have a Google+ thing?04:01
rwwoh, we do. last updated 201204:01
rwwwho maintains the Google+ thing04:01
pleia2no one :)04:02
rwwwho has access to the Google+ thing04:02
pleia2but I have admin on it04:02
rwwo04:02
rwwcan I have admin on it?04:02
pleia2yep04:02
pleia2what the email address you have associated w/ that account? I can't search to add you by name because G+ has a terrible search04:04
rwwPMed (because public logs and spam)04:05
pleia2thanks, invited you as a manager04:05
rwwodd, no notification or anything04:08
pleia2G+ also has terrible notifications :)04:09
pleia2does show you as invited in the interface though04:09
blitzG+ is pretty horrible overall04:10
rwwi like it :c04:10
blitzfigures ;)04:10
rwwit lets me keep up with the latest news on Ingress, Canonical, and Lennart Poettering04:10
rwwoh, there it is04:12
pleia2got stuck in the tubes04:12
blitzpush the poker chips out with some horses04:13
rwwcourse I can't manage it yet, but I expect that'll fix itself eventually04:13
rwwPages feels a bit bolted-on04:13
pleia2I think it is04:13
pleia2ugh, I have a lot I should do tonight, but I think headache is wining04:15
pleia2winning too04:15
pleia2time to avoid laptop screen for a bit04:15
ianorlin /buffer 1104:15
rwwlol, our wiki notification list is a bit big04:26
rwwoh, well, I spam some people I guess04:27
rwwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Archive lol, think we can delete that?04:29
darthrobotTitle: [CaliforniaTeam/Archive - Ubuntu Wiki]04:29
bkerensaGareth: If you need help with anything next week I'm going to be arriving on Wednesday18:25
Garethbkerensa: awesome.  a bunch of us will be around on Wednesday but real work will begin Thursday, if you're around we'll put you to work :)19:31
bkerensaGareth: do you by chance know how far the beach is from the Hilton? Any nice beach19:35
GarethSanta Monica & Venice would be the closest.  Venice is good for interesting people :)19:41
GarethIt's not far.  Not walkable but iirc there is a bus that goes from the Hilton there.19:41
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bkerensaGareth: ah ok yeah I'm hoping to get some photos of stuff19:55
bkerensaalso planning to go up to Beverly Hills19:55
Coreybkerensa: Why?20:00
bkerensaCorey:  photos20:01
Coreybkerensa: Ah, for your PurseDogs of Los Angeles series?20:01
Garethhah20:02
pleia2I keep saying I'll spend more time than just conference time in LA, but never manage to (have to come home, things to do!)20:02
pleia2also february is a lousy time for LA :)20:02
blitzyeah its been raining out here20:02
pleia2"cold" and rainy20:02
Coreypleia2: I know! It drops into the mid-60s!20:02
pleia2hehe20:02
pleia2it's been raining for like 5 days here!20:02
Coreypleia2: I hit SF tonight, there through Friday.20:02
blitzafter raining twice in 8 months20:02
GarethNo rain today.  Blue sky :)20:02
pleia2Corey: ooh, when do you get in?20:03
Coreypleia2: 10PM at SFO.20:03
CoreyWhy, something going on tonight?20:03
blitzit's overcast right now20:03
blitzin SF20:03
blitzno rain though20:03
pleia2Corey: nah, but we do have Ubuntu Hour + Debian dinner on Wednesday20:03
bkerensawhat its raining in LA?20:03
bkerensa:920:03
bkerensa:(20:04
bkerensaI was hoping for sun and warmth20:04
Coreybkerensa: No, no.20:04
CoreyWhat do you think this is, the end of days?20:04
pleia2bkerensa: california is catching up for a year of drought20:04
pleia2all at once20:04
pleia2Corey: I'm also free for dinner tomorrow if you're about20:04
Coreypleia2: I think so.20:04
bkerensawell hopefully rain will stop before next week20:04
Coreypleia2: Time and place?20:05
CoreyI'm at 1 Market.20:05
bkerensapleia2: are you planning a Ubuntu Hour for Scale12x?20:05
blitzwhere is 1 market20:05
CoreyIf so don't hold it during my UpSCALE talk.20:05
pleia2Corey: let's see...20:05
pleia2bkerensa: where, at Denny's? :) (no, I have too much going on)20:06
Coreyblitz: Drive down Market. If you don't slam on your brakes you'll plow into the ferry building. Look right. That's 1 Market.20:06
blitzoh yeah20:06
blitzI'm a few blocks from there20:06
bkerensapleia2: the hotel must have a restaurant and bar no?20:06
blitzwell, I work a few blocks that is20:06
pleia2blitz: me too20:07
Garethbkerensa: both.20:07
blitzI work @ 221 main st20:07
blitzused to work on bush & market20:08
pleia2I'm over on new montgomery (where ubuntu hour + debian dinner will be)20:08
bkerensaGareth: good I hear Scale12x has no meals so its either dennys that or room service :D20:08
pleia2don't forget carl's jr20:08
blitzsuper duper20:08
bkerensaI don't know if I could eat Grand Slams and Carls Jr for a week20:08
bkerensa:P20:08
pleia2http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2682-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/20:08
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]20:08
Coreypleia2: One of our guys is giving a talk on SSH down in San Jose Wednesday. I was hoping to see it. :-(20:09
blitzyeah I went to one of the ubuntu hours before20:09
CoreyI find it humorous that Gareth has enough free time at work to "run SCaLE"20:09
CoreyFive years ago I had Gareth's job. I was disillusioned / bored enough there that I became network staff.20:09
pleia2Corey: how's this look: http://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com/gotts_roadside.php20:09
darthrobotTitle: [Gott's Roadside]20:09
CoreyI also got a CCNA. :-)20:09
Coreypleia2: LIke a heart attack on a plate. I'm in.20:10
Coreypleia2: Will MJ be joining us?20:10
Garethbkerensa: No meals?  We don't feed people :)  But there is a restaurant and a cafe in the Hilton.  Plenty of stuff about if you want to leave the hotel too.  There is also an In & Out not far too.20:10
pleia2Corey: they make an awesome raw ahi tuna fish taco20:10
pleia2Corey: no, he's in Atlanta this week for NANOG20:10
CoreyLucky stiff.20:10
pleia2blitz: wanna come?20:10
GarethCorey: I do SCALE in between "tasks" :)20:10
CoreyGareth: Some month when you're putting on a multi-thousand person conference we should catch up. :-)20:11
Coreywhen you're not*20:11
bkerensaGareth: No gangs? :) You should see the bug we have open for the event :)20:11
pleia2Corey: just let me know tomorrow what time works best for you (if at all)20:11
bkerensaGareth: there was concerns about physical safety of our team20:11
bkerensa:P20:11
Coreypleia2: Any time after 520:11
pleia2Corey: wfm, say 5:30 then?20:12
GarethCorey: if you're about Wed. or Thurs.  it's usually pretty quiet...calm before the storm and all.20:12
CoreyIn semi-related news: I'm moving to SF in a few months.20:12
Coreypleia2: Sold.20:12
pleia2Corey: yay x 220:12
CoreyMrs. Quinn is even on board with the idea.20:12
pleia2I will finally get to meet mrs corey20:12
Coreypleia2: I think she's coming to / sneaking into my UpSCaLE talk!20:12
joseCorey: are you going to scale too?20:12
pleia2Corey: oh good :)20:13
Garethbkerensa: There are some sketchy streets...stick to Century Blvd if you're walking and you're fine.  It's like anywhere...there are spots you shouldn't be after dark :)20:13
Coreyjose: I'm giving an UPSCaLE talk. I wasn't planning on phoning it in. :-)20:13
Garethjose: Are you by chance the Jose whose flying in from South America and doing the TNG talk?20:13
bkerensaGareth: Yeah they had wanted me to walk from LAX to the hotel (which at one point was not going to be the Hilton) and I told them absolutely not20:13
pleia2Gareth: he is!20:13
joseGareth: I am that one!20:13
Coreybkerensa: That is ridiculous. That said, there's a shuttle for free. :-)20:14
bkerensaYeah20:14
bkerensaand 24/7 which is win20:14
bkerensa:D20:14
Garethjose: Ahh excellent.  I have the letter that Philip put together.  Need to print it out and sign it, scan it, etc.  But I'll get that over to you asap.20:14
joseGareth: awesome, thanks a bunch :)20:14
bkerensaBtw folks who are booked at the Hilton you know you can upgrade to the executive floor for $15 more per night right?20:14
Garethfyi, if you haven't booked a room.....do so asap....it's likely going to be sold out.20:15
bkerensa:D20:15
pleia2bkerensa: stop telling everyone that ;)20:15
bkerensapleia2: its such a good deal though20:15
pleia2but then they'll all be taken!20:15
bkerensahah20:15
Coreybkerensa: pleia2 is correct.20:15
Coreybkerensa: Some of us are Hilton Diamond, stop crowding us out!20:16
pleia2lol20:16
bkerensaCorey: I am Hilton nothing20:16
bkerensa:P20:16
pleia2I got upgraded there on my Gold last year20:16
Coreypleia2: How's United?20:16
pleia2Corey: I'd have to use a word that's not CoC-friendly, I decided to tough out USAir and see how it goes20:16
CoreyI'm at 28K flown so far this year. I'm on track to beat my record.20:17
pleia219k here20:17
CoreyI got a handwritten note from the first officer on my last flight thanking me for my loyalty.20:17
pleia2but that's because I went to Perth :)20:17
CoreyI've yet to do Australia.20:17
pleia2it was my first time20:17
CoreyI may have a project that'll have me back and forth to Maryland every week for three months.20:17
pleia2I'm going to Croatia in June, so hitting SA Gold again this year is no problem20:18
CoreyOoh.20:18
CoreyExpensify did that last year as their company retreat, I heard good things.20:18
bkerensaAlaska Airlines FTW20:18
bkerensanever United again20:18
Coreybkerensa: I would if they weren't a regional.20:18
pleia2I know nothing about Croatia, but I got HP to sponsor their conference because I was invited to keynote :)20:18
Coreypleia2: Usually that goes the other way around; you sponsor and effectively buy a keynote. :-)20:19
bkerensapleia2: btw I found out why PDX to LAX is only 15 mins more than PDX to SFO20:19
pleia2I prefer this way20:19
bkerensathey fly about 100mph faster to LAX20:19
bkerensa:D20:19
pleia2(says the lady who spoke at OSCON on a sponsored slot)20:19
pleia2not sure I'll do OSCON this year20:20
pleia2turns out I don't like it very much20:20
bkerensaOSBridge20:20
bkerensa:D20:20
Coreypleia2: I will just because some of our partners wind up there.20:20
CoreyGives me an excuse to drop by Puppet Labs again.20:21
pleia2:)20:21
bkerensaOSCON is so expensive we just bought our booth and it was $8500 just for that and now I still have to fly in three people and pay for all the other costs20:22
bkerensa:S20:22
Coreybkerensa: Who do you work for? :-)20:22
pleia2wow20:22
bkerensapleia2: fwiw you might try OSBridge if you can this year its perhaps the best event I have been to in NA after LFNW20:23
bkerensaCorey: I work for myself but am a Evangelist for Mozilla20:23
GarethOSBridge should be good....it was based on SCALE :D20:23
bkerensaCommunity Evangelist and also Firefox Nightly Release Manager20:24
pleia2bkerensa: it's too close to other events I'm doing, I need some home tmie :)20:24
Coreybkerensa: Ooh, mind a question about Firefox Mobile?20:24
CoreyEr, sorry.20:24
bkerensaGareth: are you going to go this year?20:24
CoreyFirefox Phone, or whatever it's called.20:24
Garethbkerensa: to OSBridge?20:24
bkerensaCorey: Sure20:24
bkerensaGareth: Yeah20:24
Garethbkerensa: when is it?20:24
bkerensaJune 24/2720:25
Coreybkerensa: Who cares? I mean that in the least-insulting way possible, but Microsoft can't even make headway in the mobile OS space; we're going to have a duopoly there for at least another ten years.20:25
bkerensaCorey: Its already a top selling platform in the markets we have started selling it in so I guess in countries that have strong use of Open Source those people care20:25
Garethbkerensa: maybe.20:26
bkerensaCorey: Mozilla is not doing Firefox OS to win or make money they are doing it to deliver open web to more people and give people in emerging markets a richer experience20:26
Coreybkerensa: Hmm. Maybe I should step outside the California Bubble more often. :-)20:26
bkerensaIn Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia its selling like hotcakes20:26
bkerensathe carriers at least report that its a top seller20:26
CoreyI withdraw my snarky commentary. :-)20:26
joseit needs more promotion here, as it's sold just as a cheap alternative20:27
Garethwoah.20:27
GarethCorey: Is that a first?20:27
bkerensajose: I will let our LATAM CM know that20:28
josebkerensa: ah, and the people who sell it say it's just firefox os, has some apps and that's it20:28
josethey don't get too much into it, don't know if it was that specific person who talked to me or if it's in general20:28
bkerensaCorey: mind you Mozilla thinks its great for companies like  Google, Apple and Microsoft to exist20:30
bkerensaMozilla believes competition even if its proprietary is good because it drives innovation often open innovation20:30
CoreyGareth: Hey, when I'm wrong I admit it!20:30
CoreyGareth: You might ask Shane about my experience with rsync's --delete flag in production. :-D20:31
Corey(A former coworker left prod's netapp mounted in staging, so when I was testing something there it destroyed prod, but I should still have been more careful...)20:31
Garethhaha20:32
rwwheh, apparently nobody seeds kubuntu 12.04 desktop or alternate PowerPC, or amd64+mac. I wonder if that will be a problem :P22:12
* rww now has all the 13.10 and 12.04 latest available apart from those22:13
ianorlinhow long did all the lubuntu isos take?22:26
ianorlinthey are smaller but so many22:26
rwwdunno, I set the lot of them to go overnight and everything apart from those four is done22:31
rww(everything from 12.04, anyway. did 13.10 a week or two ago)22:31
ianorlinah that makes senes to do them overnight22:37
Coreypleia2: So 5:30 tomorrow for dinner?23:27
pleia2Corey: yep23:28
Coreypleia2: Sweet. See you at the Heart Attack Cafe!23:34
pleia2hehe, yp23:34
pleia2Corey: have a safe flight :)23:34
Coreypleia2: Is blitz joining us?23:34
pleia2not suer yet23:35
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CoreyYikes.23:35
blitzwhen is this23:35
pleia2hehe23:35
CoreyOkay, that's a fun mosh bug.23:35
Coreyblitz: TOmorrow evening, 5PM23:35
pleia25:3023:35
pleia2at Gott's Roadside (in ferry building)23:35
blitznaw I gotta work23:36
blitzwhen is the thing on wednesday23:36
pleia2Ubuntu Hour is at 6PM, Debian dinner is 7-8:3023:36
pleia2two separate events, but we always have a lot of overlap23:37
pleia2(and they're near each other)23:37
pleia2all details, w/ addresses: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2682-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/23:38
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]23:38
blitzI might be able to make that one23:48

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