[03:00] * pleia2 waves [03:00] meeting time :) [03:00] #startmeeting [03:00] Meeting started Mon Feb 10 03:00:14 2014 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [03:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [03:00] who all do we have here for the meeting? [03:00] meh [03:01] o/ [03:01] alrighty [03:01] only thing on the agenda is scale :) [03:01] o/ [03:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x [03:02] Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x - Ubuntu Wiki] [03:02] #topic SCaLE12x [03:02] 2 weeks away, woo [03:03] Are we doing this thing? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects still shows its status as "Proposed" [03:03] Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects - Ubuntu Wiki] [03:03] lol [03:03] ...and Philip still hasn't sent me registration information [03:04] weird, he sent it to others [03:04] reminds me, I need to get mine changed over to the shiny free one [03:04] I'll send an email and loop you in [03:04] also I don't think there was a spot for my gnupg key on the registration thing o.O [03:05] should there be? :) [03:06] yes [03:06] eps: so re: candy, at this point I'm thinking M&Ms [03:07] rww: Is this for the Key Signing Party? http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale12x/pgp-key-signing-party [03:07] Title: [PGP Key Signing Party | SCALE 12x] [03:07] eps: yes [03:08] ah [03:09] not sure we have anything else to talk about really [03:10] I did have a fellow from the AZ team mention they'd be happy to take any 12.04 leftover CDs off our hands at the end of the event [03:11] and jose from peru will be helping us with the booth! [03:11] o/ [03:11] o/ jose [03:11] hey rww! going too? [03:12] philip said he'd be a few minutes later for this meetnig, might just wait for him to join us and see if there's anything else he wants to talk about [03:12] jose: yep :) [03:12] awesome [03:15] philip's coming online now [03:15] much psychic [03:15] philipballew: about to wrap up un-noteworthy meeting item about scale, anything you wanted to add/announce/etc? [03:17] rww: I remain unconvinced :) [03:20] whoops, he's pinging timeout [03:21] flooding actually [03:21] not sure what that's about === Corey is now known as Guest62252 [03:22] client probably doesn't have rate control set up properly, so automatic /who or something is breaking it [03:22] yeah [03:23] fun times [03:23] yep [03:23] ok, we'll move on and hopefully he'll get sorted ;) [03:23] i've flooded out once that I can remember, but that was freenode's fault :3 [03:23] #topic Any other business [03:23] Ubuntu Hours? [03:24] there was one today in Berkeley, hope that went well :) [03:24] coming up this wednesday we're having one in San Francisco: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2682-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/ [03:24] Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [03:24] also a debian dinner after [03:24] So hard to support local businesses... but hey, Starbucks stars. ;) [03:24] both are too far away for me to attened being in Torrance [03:25] ianorlin: Pasadena has them sometimes [03:25] I think that's currently the closest one to you [03:25] philipb: did you have anything to talk about re: scale? [03:25] oh hey there [03:26] pleia2, email sent [03:26] not so far. I will send out a reminder email to everyone at the end of the week [03:26] thanks [03:26] the conf pack will be here in a few days. [03:26] from Canonical? [03:26] yes [03:26] great [03:26] :) [03:27] is the debian dinner going to involve repeated voting over what to eat [03:27] hahah [03:28] (also: i will be there unless work is more tiring than usual) [03:28] yay [03:28] ok, anyone have anything else? [03:30] we should probably start thinking soon about 14.04 release [03:30] like, not this meeting, but soon [03:30] good idea, I'll add it to the agenda for the next meeting [03:30] We're still basking in the glow of 12.04.4 LTS. [03:31] * ianorlin is already testing 14.04 for lubuntu [03:31] which will be on March 9, since we're skipping the everyone-coming-home-from-scale night [03:31] and there's a global jam coming up, so if anyone is interested in that it'd be something to look into [03:31] rww: have the details handy? [03:31] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2656/ [03:31] Title: [Ubuntu Global Jam | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [03:31] it's a weekend, Fri, 04 April 2014 to Sun, 06 April 2014 [03:32] cool [03:32] I don't have much to contribute for that, but if someone's been looking for an event idea, there's one [03:33] it's so close to release [03:33] indeed, timing's a bit odd, since anything fixed there (bugs or what not) won't be in 14.04 [03:33] yeah [03:34] trying to think of things to do, but that's even too late for documentation review [03:34] marketing material creation, I guess [03:34] Ubuntu Touch or other stuff that isn't production ready and has ongoing work [03:34] yeah, there's always that :) [03:34] * pleia2 nods [03:35] Could someone please update the "Current Ubuntu Release" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam to something that hasn't already been EOLed? [03:35] Title: [CaliforniaTeam - Ubuntu Wiki] [03:35] eps: I'm going to go through and update the wiki Sometime Soon [03:35] eps: still no luck logging in to the wiki? :( [03:35] since there are a few things like that [03:35] we do still struggle to keep that updated, it's tough [03:35] It still wasn't working as of the last time I tried, which was about a week ago. [03:36] in this particular case I think we should think about dropping that "current release" thing because it's a bit of a random thing for a loco to mention [03:36] agreed [03:36] thanks for having that on your list, rww :) [03:36] pleia2: are you still handling paperwork? team reports and what not? [03:37] * rww has "look into what leadership is supposed to be doing" on the list somewhere too [03:38] rww: january reports are on my todo list ;) but generally yes [03:38] help is appreciated always [03:38] leadership mostly just makes sure we have meetings and that people are kept informed/on track [03:39] ah, okay. I'm not missing anything then [03:39] * eps has gone off the rails :-( [03:40] heh [03:40] alright, time to wrap up? [03:40] * rww nods [03:40] ok, thanks everyone [03:40] see you at scale! [03:40] (or at sf ubuntu hour :)) [03:40] #endmeeting [03:40] Meeting ended Mon Feb 10 03:40:50 2014 UTC. [03:40] Minutes: http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2014/ubuntu-us-ca.2014-02-10-03.00.moin.txt [04:01] Do we have a Google+ thing? [04:01] oh, we do. last updated 2012 [04:01] who maintains the Google+ thing [04:02] no one :) [04:02] who has access to the Google+ thing [04:02] but I have admin on it [04:02] o [04:02] can I have admin on it? [04:02] yep [04:04] what the email address you have associated w/ that account? I can't search to add you by name because G+ has a terrible search [04:05] PMed (because public logs and spam) [04:05] thanks, invited you as a manager [04:08] odd, no notification or anything [04:09] G+ also has terrible notifications :) [04:09] does show you as invited in the interface though [04:10] G+ is pretty horrible overall [04:10] i like it :c [04:10] figures ;) [04:10] it lets me keep up with the latest news on Ingress, Canonical, and Lennart Poettering [04:12] oh, there it is [04:12] got stuck in the tubes [04:13] push the poker chips out with some horses [04:13] course I can't manage it yet, but I expect that'll fix itself eventually [04:13] Pages feels a bit bolted-on [04:13] I think it is [04:15] ugh, I have a lot I should do tonight, but I think headache is wining [04:15] winning too [04:15] time to avoid laptop screen for a bit [04:15] /buffer 11 [04:26] lol, our wiki notification list is a bit big [04:27] oh, well, I spam some people I guess [04:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Archive lol, think we can delete that? [04:29] Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Archive - Ubuntu Wiki] [18:25] Gareth: If you need help with anything next week I'm going to be arriving on Wednesday [19:31] bkerensa: awesome. a bunch of us will be around on Wednesday but real work will begin Thursday, if you're around we'll put you to work :) [19:35] Gareth: do you by chance know how far the beach is from the Hilton? Any nice beach [19:41] Santa Monica & Venice would be the closest. Venice is good for interesting people :) [19:41] It's not far. Not walkable but iirc there is a bus that goes from the Hilton there. === Guest62252 is now known as Corey [19:55] Gareth: ah ok yeah I'm hoping to get some photos of stuff [19:55] also planning to go up to Beverly Hills [20:00] bkerensa: Why? [20:01] Corey: photos [20:01] bkerensa: Ah, for your PurseDogs of Los Angeles series? [20:02] hah [20:02] I keep saying I'll spend more time than just conference time in LA, but never manage to (have to come home, things to do!) [20:02] also february is a lousy time for LA :) [20:02] yeah its been raining out here [20:02] "cold" and rainy [20:02] pleia2: I know! It drops into the mid-60s! [20:02] hehe [20:02] it's been raining for like 5 days here! [20:02] pleia2: I hit SF tonight, there through Friday. [20:02] after raining twice in 8 months [20:02] No rain today. Blue sky :) [20:03] Corey: ooh, when do you get in? [20:03] pleia2: 10PM at SFO. [20:03] Why, something going on tonight? [20:03] it's overcast right now [20:03] in SF [20:03] no rain though [20:03] Corey: nah, but we do have Ubuntu Hour + Debian dinner on Wednesday [20:03] what its raining in LA? [20:03] :9 [20:04] :( [20:04] I was hoping for sun and warmth [20:04] bkerensa: No, no. [20:04] What do you think this is, the end of days? [20:04] bkerensa: california is catching up for a year of drought [20:04] all at once [20:04] Corey: I'm also free for dinner tomorrow if you're about [20:04] pleia2: I think so. [20:04] well hopefully rain will stop before next week [20:05] pleia2: Time and place? [20:05] I'm at 1 Market. [20:05] pleia2: are you planning a Ubuntu Hour for Scale12x? [20:05] where is 1 market [20:05] If so don't hold it during my UpSCALE talk. [20:05] Corey: let's see... [20:06] bkerensa: where, at Denny's? :) (no, I have too much going on) [20:06] blitz: Drive down Market. If you don't slam on your brakes you'll plow into the ferry building. Look right. That's 1 Market. [20:06] oh yeah [20:06] I'm a few blocks from there [20:06] pleia2: the hotel must have a restaurant and bar no? [20:06] well, I work a few blocks that is [20:07] blitz: me too [20:07] bkerensa: both. [20:07] I work @ 221 main st [20:08] used to work on bush & market [20:08] I'm over on new montgomery (where ubuntu hour + debian dinner will be) [20:08] Gareth: good I hear Scale12x has no meals so its either dennys that or room service :D [20:08] don't forget carl's jr [20:08] super duper [20:08] I don't know if I could eat Grand Slams and Carls Jr for a week [20:08] :P [20:08] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2682-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/ [20:08] Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [20:09] pleia2: One of our guys is giving a talk on SSH down in San Jose Wednesday. I was hoping to see it. :-( [20:09] yeah I went to one of the ubuntu hours before [20:09] I find it humorous that Gareth has enough free time at work to "run SCaLE" [20:09] Five years ago I had Gareth's job. I was disillusioned / bored enough there that I became network staff. [20:09] Corey: how's this look: http://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com/gotts_roadside.php [20:09] Title: [Gott's Roadside] [20:09] I also got a CCNA. :-) [20:10] pleia2: LIke a heart attack on a plate. I'm in. [20:10] pleia2: Will MJ be joining us? [20:10] bkerensa: No meals? We don't feed people :) But there is a restaurant and a cafe in the Hilton. Plenty of stuff about if you want to leave the hotel too. There is also an In & Out not far too. [20:10] Corey: they make an awesome raw ahi tuna fish taco [20:10] Corey: no, he's in Atlanta this week for NANOG [20:10] Lucky stiff. [20:10] blitz: wanna come? [20:10] Corey: I do SCALE in between "tasks" :) [20:11] Gareth: Some month when you're putting on a multi-thousand person conference we should catch up. :-) [20:11] when you're not* [20:11] Gareth: No gangs? :) You should see the bug we have open for the event :) [20:11] Corey: just let me know tomorrow what time works best for you (if at all) [20:11] Gareth: there was concerns about physical safety of our team [20:11] :P [20:11] pleia2: Any time after 5 [20:12] Corey: wfm, say 5:30 then? [20:12] Corey: if you're about Wed. or Thurs. it's usually pretty quiet...calm before the storm and all. [20:12] In semi-related news: I'm moving to SF in a few months. [20:12] pleia2: Sold. [20:12] Corey: yay x 2 [20:12] Mrs. Quinn is even on board with the idea. [20:12] I will finally get to meet mrs corey [20:12] pleia2: I think she's coming to / sneaking into my UpSCaLE talk! [20:12] Corey: are you going to scale too? [20:13] Corey: oh good :) [20:13] bkerensa: There are some sketchy streets...stick to Century Blvd if you're walking and you're fine. It's like anywhere...there are spots you shouldn't be after dark :) [20:13] jose: I'm giving an UPSCaLE talk. I wasn't planning on phoning it in. :-) [20:13] jose: Are you by chance the Jose whose flying in from South America and doing the TNG talk? [20:13] Gareth: Yeah they had wanted me to walk from LAX to the hotel (which at one point was not going to be the Hilton) and I told them absolutely not [20:13] Gareth: he is! [20:13] Gareth: I am that one! [20:14] bkerensa: That is ridiculous. That said, there's a shuttle for free. :-) [20:14] Yeah [20:14] and 24/7 which is win [20:14] :D [20:14] jose: Ahh excellent. I have the letter that Philip put together. Need to print it out and sign it, scan it, etc. But I'll get that over to you asap. [20:14] Gareth: awesome, thanks a bunch :) [20:14] Btw folks who are booked at the Hilton you know you can upgrade to the executive floor for $15 more per night right? [20:15] fyi, if you haven't booked a room.....do so asap....it's likely going to be sold out. [20:15] :D [20:15] bkerensa: stop telling everyone that ;) [20:15] pleia2: its such a good deal though [20:15] but then they'll all be taken! [20:15] hah [20:15] bkerensa: pleia2 is correct. [20:16] bkerensa: Some of us are Hilton Diamond, stop crowding us out! [20:16] lol [20:16] Corey: I am Hilton nothing [20:16] :P [20:16] I got upgraded there on my Gold last year [20:16] pleia2: How's United? [20:16] Corey: I'd have to use a word that's not CoC-friendly, I decided to tough out USAir and see how it goes [20:17] I'm at 28K flown so far this year. I'm on track to beat my record. [20:17] 19k here [20:17] I got a handwritten note from the first officer on my last flight thanking me for my loyalty. [20:17] but that's because I went to Perth :) [20:17] I've yet to do Australia. [20:17] it was my first time [20:17] I may have a project that'll have me back and forth to Maryland every week for three months. [20:18] I'm going to Croatia in June, so hitting SA Gold again this year is no problem [20:18] Ooh. [20:18] Expensify did that last year as their company retreat, I heard good things. [20:18] Alaska Airlines FTW [20:18] never United again [20:18] bkerensa: I would if they weren't a regional. [20:18] I know nothing about Croatia, but I got HP to sponsor their conference because I was invited to keynote :) [20:19] pleia2: Usually that goes the other way around; you sponsor and effectively buy a keynote. :-) [20:19] pleia2: btw I found out why PDX to LAX is only 15 mins more than PDX to SFO [20:19] I prefer this way [20:19] they fly about 100mph faster to LAX [20:19] :D [20:19] (says the lady who spoke at OSCON on a sponsored slot) [20:20] not sure I'll do OSCON this year [20:20] turns out I don't like it very much [20:20] OSBridge [20:20] :D [20:20] pleia2: I will just because some of our partners wind up there. [20:21] Gives me an excuse to drop by Puppet Labs again. [20:21] :) [20:22] OSCON is so expensive we just bought our booth and it was $8500 just for that and now I still have to fly in three people and pay for all the other costs [20:22] :S [20:22] bkerensa: Who do you work for? :-) [20:22] wow [20:23] pleia2: fwiw you might try OSBridge if you can this year its perhaps the best event I have been to in NA after LFNW [20:23] Corey: I work for myself but am a Evangelist for Mozilla [20:23] OSBridge should be good....it was based on SCALE :D [20:24] Community Evangelist and also Firefox Nightly Release Manager [20:24] bkerensa: it's too close to other events I'm doing, I need some home tmie :) [20:24] bkerensa: Ooh, mind a question about Firefox Mobile? [20:24] Er, sorry. [20:24] Gareth: are you going to go this year? [20:24] Firefox Phone, or whatever it's called. [20:24] bkerensa: to OSBridge? [20:24] Corey: Sure [20:24] Gareth: Yeah [20:24] bkerensa: when is it? [20:25] June 24/27 [20:25] bkerensa: Who cares? I mean that in the least-insulting way possible, but Microsoft can't even make headway in the mobile OS space; we're going to have a duopoly there for at least another ten years. [20:25] Corey: Its already a top selling platform in the markets we have started selling it in so I guess in countries that have strong use of Open Source those people care [20:26] bkerensa: maybe. [20:26] Corey: Mozilla is not doing Firefox OS to win or make money they are doing it to deliver open web to more people and give people in emerging markets a richer experience [20:26] bkerensa: Hmm. Maybe I should step outside the California Bubble more often. :-) [20:26] In Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia its selling like hotcakes [20:26] the carriers at least report that its a top seller [20:26] I withdraw my snarky commentary. :-) [20:27] it needs more promotion here, as it's sold just as a cheap alternative [20:27] woah. [20:27] Corey: Is that a first? [20:28] jose: I will let our LATAM CM know that [20:28] bkerensa: ah, and the people who sell it say it's just firefox os, has some apps and that's it [20:28] they don't get too much into it, don't know if it was that specific person who talked to me or if it's in general [20:30] Corey: mind you Mozilla thinks its great for companies like Google, Apple and Microsoft to exist [20:30] Mozilla believes competition even if its proprietary is good because it drives innovation often open innovation [20:30] Gareth: Hey, when I'm wrong I admit it! [20:31] Gareth: You might ask Shane about my experience with rsync's --delete flag in production. :-D [20:31] (A former coworker left prod's netapp mounted in staging, so when I was testing something there it destroyed prod, but I should still have been more careful...) [20:32] haha [22:12] heh, apparently nobody seeds kubuntu 12.04 desktop or alternate PowerPC, or amd64+mac. I wonder if that will be a problem :P [22:13] * rww now has all the 13.10 and 12.04 latest available apart from those [22:26] how long did all the lubuntu isos take? [22:26] they are smaller but so many [22:31] dunno, I set the lot of them to go overnight and everything apart from those four is done [22:31] (everything from 12.04, anyway. did 13.10 a week or two ago) [22:37] ah that makes senes to do them overnight [23:27] pleia2: So 5:30 tomorrow for dinner? [23:28] Corey: yep [23:34] pleia2: Sweet. See you at the Heart Attack Cafe! [23:34] hehe, yp [23:34] Corey: have a safe flight :) [23:34] pleia2: Is blitz joining us? [23:35] not suer yet [23:35] [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/lastlog http 5 [23:35] Yikes. [23:35] when is this [23:35] hehe [23:35] Okay, that's a fun mosh bug. [23:35] blitz: TOmorrow evening, 5PM [23:35] 5:30 [23:35] at Gott's Roadside (in ferry building) [23:36] naw I gotta work [23:36] when is the thing on wednesday [23:36] Ubuntu Hour is at 6PM, Debian dinner is 7-8:30 [23:37] two separate events, but we always have a lot of overlap [23:37] (and they're near each other) [23:38] all details, w/ addresses: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2682-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/ [23:38] Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [23:48] I might be able to make that one