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newbhitsujiTMO: Now that I am running, I want to optimize performance and someone with experience could really help.00:00
newbhitsujiTMO: Search on... google.com?00:00
newbubottu: how do I access alis list?00:01
ubottunewb: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:01
hitsujiTMOnewb: #litecoin00:01
abc_haroldCb321: is there a hwinfo64 if you have 64bit installed? otherwise can you pastebin contents of /boot/menu.lst00:01
newbhitsujiTMO: thank you!00:02
newbubottu: you're not really a bot, are you? Nah....00:02
ubottunewb: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:02
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newbhitsujiTMO: maybe ubottu IS a bot?00:02
hitsujiTMO!brain00:03
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots00:03
abc_haroldthat was a no brainer00:03
abc_haroldno pun intended00:03
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Cb321abc_harold: Once again, I apoogize, but I don't know where to look to find the hwinfo64 folder. It isn't in the home directory, and I wouldn't know where else to look for it. When I went to the /boot directory, there is no menu .1st anywhere.00:05
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hitsujiTMOcb321: sudo find / -name hwinfo6400:05
Cb321I did as you asked and put in the command. It asked for my password and few seconds went by and the terminal went back to normal.00:08
abc_haroldCb321: hwinfo and hwinfo64 are programs lol, and it's menu.LST (lowercase, and not like first)00:08
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abc_haroldsorry for not being clear00:08
abc_haroldCb321: did you run it with --framebuffer?00:09
Cb321abc_harold: Just to be clear which command are you referring to?00:11
abc_haroldCb321: hwinfo or hwinfo64, whichever works00:11
Bray90820how would i echo the output of date to a file00:12
hitsujiTMOBray90820: date > file00:12
abc_haroldBray90820: or date >> file to append00:12
Bray90820If i do that it just puts the word date at the end of the file00:13
abc_haroldBray90820: dont echo date, just date > file00:13
abc_harold(or date >> file)00:13
pibbyBray90820: in the terminal type: which date00:14
Cb321abc_harold: Oh yes I'm sorry I did run that command with --framebuffer as you previously suggested. It told me that 'hwinfo' has no installation candidate.00:14
Bray90820abc_harold: i didn't read it correctly thank you00:14
Bray90820i wasn't suppose to use echo00:14
Cb321abc_harold: hwinfo64 came up as an invalid command, so I couldn't run that anyway.00:14
abc_haroldBray90820: yep00:15
Bray90820I need to learn to read00:15
abc_haroldCb321: can you pastebin the contents of /boot/menu.lst please (thats LST)00:16
newbhitsujiTMO: It seems no one hangs out in that area like you do in this area. Tough to get their help.00:16
hitsujiTMOnewb be patient maybe. sunday evenings are typically quieter in some channels00:17
abc_haroldSorry, really have to go now Cb32100:18
abc_haroldit's midnight in England and im shattered00:18
Cb321abc_harold: No problem,do you have a Hangouts account I can maybe reach you at for more help in the future when you are free?00:18
Cb321abc_harold: Or do you frequent this IRC?00:18
abc_haroldI'll be on #ubuntu tomorrow, probably 18:00 GMT onward00:19
Cb321abc_harold: Alright! Thanks again for all of your help I honestly appreciate it!00:21
abc_haroldCb321: that's fine, I'll be here tomorrow then! :)00:22
banzaiI have Ubuntu 12.04, how can I have the latest stable Intel drivers?00:32
banzai*Intel graphics drivers?00:32
hitsujiTMObanzai: ensure you are on the saucy enablement stack00:33
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hitsujiTMObanzai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack00:33
banzaihitsujiTMO: What is that?00:33
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hitsujiTMObanzai: kernel, xorg, etc from saucy00:34
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ZiberHey, I have a VPN I use between a server and my laptop, but the openvpn client for ubuntu apparently only has IPv4 settings. I want to use IPv6 over it as well, do I need to install anything else to be able to do that?00:35
banzaihitsujiTMO: I see. I'll try it. Thank you!00:35
banzaiGoing offline. I kind of just removed half of my distro from my hard drive x/00:36
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hitsujiTMObanzai: yes, theres a large chunk that gets replaced when you change enablement stacks00:41
banzaihitsujiTMO: That's not because of that. I had installed Ubuntu-X PPA and told myself that using ppa-purge for that would be a good idea... man was I wrong.00:42
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hitsujiTMObanzai: ahh, i see00:43
banzaiEven my application launcher and the USB reader were removed...00:44
banzaiStuck with having to upload a backup on Dropbox, this is going to eat up my Internet consumption..00:45
ZiberAnyone with vpn ideas?00:48
edd`thats why im here00:48
Ziber?00:49
edd`i'm also looking for vpn ideas00:50
edd`looking to connect a laptop, mobile device and some home computers to the office00:51
Ziberwell, I have a working vpn, I'm trying to add ipv6 to it.00:52
edd`can your vpn do what i need it to do?00:55
ZiberDepends what you need it to do? Also, not mine. Openvpn.00:56
williamtdrHi.01:11
williamtdrJust installed mysql-server on my box running Ubuntu Server 12.04.01:11
williamtdrHowever, it didn't prompt like for a root password, or offer any prompt during the setup.01:11
williamtdrOn any other box, it's asked for those things.01:12
williamtdrSame when I set up phpmyadmin, no prompts.01:12
williamtdrWithout these, I can't set the respective programs up properly.01:12
williamtdrIs there a package I'm missing or something?01:12
mib2489On ubuntu 13, I do    grep -r "blah"     and          grep -r "blah" .      and they do the same thing. In all my past experiences on other systems they are not the same thing, without the '.' it will wait for input. Any idea why?01:13
SlidingHornHi williamtdr: Try to keep posts to one line when possible...take a look here for setting your mysql root password: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Set_mysql_root_password01:13
williamtdrSlidingHorn, the more core issue is it not showing a prompt when I set up a package requiring configuraiton. How can I enable the prompts again?01:14
sleepie^^I have a very intriguing question, please please answer if you know I cannot find an answer on the web.01:15
SlidingHorn!ask | sleepie^^01:16
ubottusleepie^^: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:16
eflynnsleepie^^: ok...01:16
SlidingHornwilliamtdr:  I'm looking01:16
williamtdrSlidingHorn, thanks. If it helps, it's a brand new box from leasweb with Ubuntu Server 12.04.3.01:16
SlidingHornwilliamtdr:  What was the *exact* command you entered to install?01:17
williamtdrSlidingHorn, apt-get install mysql-server01:17
sleepie^^In Ubuntu 13.10, grub presents a menu entry "Advanced Options", submenu's include Ubuntu, and Ubuntu (recovery movde). What happens when I load the one that is not recovery mode Why does it say "Loading initial ramdisk..." before boot?01:17
eflynnsleepie^^: these are just kernels with different options01:19
eflynnsleepie^^: the initial ramdisk is kernel related01:19
eflynnsleepie^^: does that help01:20
sleepie^^eflynn: Are you telling me that I have an additional kernel installed, and Ubuntu does not document what it is there for? If so, will Please Please tell me what the purpose of this out of the spotlight menu entry is for?01:21
eflynnsleepie^^: no the recovery mode is just the same kernel with different parameters01:22
eflynnsleepie^^: it's perfectly fine to have more than one kernel01:22
mskimhello01:22
SlidingHornwilliamtdr:  Try running (no quotes) "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text"  then remove & reinstall mysql-server....let me know if that prompts you01:23
sleepie^^eflynn: Is there anywhere that I can find the documentation on these parameters? Or is this as simple as viewing them myself in grub by using 'e' while the menu entry is highlighted?01:23
williamtdrSlidingHorn, doing so.01:23
SlidingHornI'll brb - gonna grab smokes & a bite to eat.  Will check in w/ you when I return01:23
eflynnsleepie^^: look into linux kernel documentation01:25
sleepie^^eflynn: Okay thank you so much. This confused me needlessly01:25
eflynnsleepie^^: what's so confusing01:26
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sleepie^^eflynn: I do not understand the general "could be explained in a single line" purpose of this second kernel with alternative boot parameters.01:28
Matriks404any ideas why my lg l5 is not working with ubuntu 12.04 but with 13.10 does? It's linux-firmware thing?01:29
eflynnsleepie^^: it's really just there if ubuntu is having trouble booting -- usually graphics related, like the frame buffer isn't working for some reason01:29
Matriks404nvm01:33
nobitanobiHi guys, I am trying to listen to http://somafm.com/play/groovesalad -- But when visiting that page with Chrome, the browser keeps download a 'pls' file instead of playing music.01:34
nobitanobiI am confused, what am I doing wrong? (12.10 here)01:34
kr4m3rhello all, have a alternative to free-ip in ubuntu?01:36
mskimhello01:37
jundoenobitanobi: have you tried other browsers?01:37
nobitanobiyes, Firefox too01:37
nobitanobiit downloads a pls file01:38
nobitanobiI guess I need to open this file from Rythmbox?01:38
jundoeprobably01:38
mskimsmafm.com so slow01:39
jundoei noticed it too01:39
mskimsomafm.com dowload ~.pls file01:39
mskimand open it for default application01:40
mskimwhat's problem??01:40
jundoei think he wanted the browser to play it and not to download it01:40
nobitanobimskim, I see01:40
mskimif you want to play music automatic01:41
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nobitanobiI thought I could play it from the browser01:41
nobitanobiand avoid the download01:41
nobitanobi*stream it from there01:41
mskimsetting 'default application'01:41
mskimor install plugin for chrome01:41
nobitanobiok...01:41
nobitanobithanks01:41
jundoein my case my firefox is caching at the moment01:42
jundoevery slow01:42
MR_Wazzap11Hello?01:42
jundoehi01:42
mskimhello01:42
depperis there a way to be invited to channel #linux?????????????01:42
ishaluneyou are probably looking for ##linux01:43
MR_Wazzap11Does anyone know how to test if a USB wireless card works in Ubuntu 12.04?01:43
k1l_depper: use ##linux01:43
depperyes but i cant "speak" to the channel01:43
depperonly invited01:43
ishaluneyou need to register / identify to talk in ##linux01:43
jundoe#linux is available for registered nicks01:43
MR_Wazzap11Does anyone know how to test if a USB wireless card works in Ubuntu 12.04?01:44
k1l_depper: please ask in #freenode for network support in this case01:44
ishalunedepper, /msg nickserv help register01:44
depperthanks very much01:44
MR_Wazzap11Anyone?01:45
mskimnot me01:45
krabadorMR_Wazzap11, lspci01:45
krabadorMR_Wazzap11, lsusb01:45
krabadorMR_Wazzap11, sudo lshw -C network01:46
krabadorMR_Wazzap11, iwconfig01:46
MR_Wazzap11Looks like it isnt working :(01:46
krabadorMR_Wazzap11, what's the card?01:48
MR_Wazzap11Belkin f5d8055 v201:49
SlidingHorn!wifi | MR_Wazzap1101:49
ubottuMR_Wazzap11: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:49
krabador!pastebin | MR_Wazzap1101:49
ubottuMR_Wazzap11: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:49
MR_Wazzap11I wasnt sure if it physically worked though01:49
krabadorMR_Wazzap11, then you don't know if it's working inside win?01:50
krabadorMR_Wazzap11, pastebin of lsusb01:50
SlidingHornhey williamtdr - how did it go w/ mysql-server?01:50
MR_Wazzap11I did then it was acting sketchy Hold on Krabador I'll do that now01:51
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MR_Wazzap11pastebin.com/nE2ge3TM01:57
MR_Wazzap11pastebin.com/nE2ge3tM01:57
MR_Wazzap11sorry that one ^01:58
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ZiberSo, network-manager-openvpn-gnome doesn't have ipv6 support?02:01
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SlidingHornMR_Wazzap11,  and the device was plugged in when you ran that?02:06
MR_Wazzap11yes02:06
MR_Wazzap11I'm assuming that it means its broken?02:08
SlidingHornMR_Wazzap11,  Typically, if it doesn't even list in lsusb, it's due to the device itself being defective or the hub driver itself is buggy....have you tried this on any other OS?  (I know you were asked earlier, but I forgot)02:16
SlidingHornOne option would be to run a different LiveCD or something and see if *it* can detect the device02:17
MR_Wazzap11Yes It worked in Windows 7 for  a while then it started acting buggy and I wanted to see if Ubuntu would still be able to use it02:17
SlidingHornSounds like it may be bricked02:19
MR_Wazzap11Thought so02:19
MR_Wazzap11Anyone know a good repository to install Skype from termianal02:26
rwwMR_Wazzap11: download it from their website, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb, sudo apt-get update02:26
rwwerm, sudo apt-get -f install **02:27
soap+102:34
MooneyeHello.02:36
hewhomusthi02:36
MooneyeHow goes it?02:36
SlidingHorn!ot02:36
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:36
rwwSlidingHorn: I think that might have been a bit soon :P02:36
MooneyeGot it. Sorry about that.02:36
hewhomustlol02:37
SlidingHornrww: Isn't there one just for saying hi, too?  lol02:37
hewhomustubuntu-hi02:37
rwwnope, because people overused it02:37
rwwtends to work better if you just, you know, say hi back02:37
SlidingHornoh - sorry then...been a while :-x02:37
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swatsonhello02:41
jundoehi02:41
xusi need a little help02:41
amageeHey in the default ubuntu/unity theme, the styling for tab strips in apps like Gnome-terminal is so bad that I can barely tell which tab is the selected one (and my eyesight is perfectly fine). What do people do to fix this? Install another theme?02:41
xushow do i set ubuntu as the default os on uefi02:42
Bashing-omswatson: Hi back :D02:42
xushow to i make ubuntu the default os?02:43
xuson uefi02:43
daftykinsreconfigure grub02:43
xusdon know how02:43
daftykins!grub02:43
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub202:43
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Psil0Cybinhey guys does swap only get used once you run out of ram?02:48
k1l_and for suspend2ram02:48
Psil0Cybinoh interesting02:48
Psil0Cybini thought swap was always used :_)02:48
k1l_erm wait. suspend2disk02:49
Psil0Cybinstill so swap is not used just by using your OS02:49
Psil0Cybinlike from boot right away02:49
k1l_suspend2ram does get saved in ram of course.02:49
Psil0Cybinit gets used over time02:49
Psil0Cybinright?02:49
k1l_swap is slow. you dont want that to be used02:49
zykotick9Psil0Cybin: check the output of "free"02:49
Psil0Cybinah02:49
Psil0Cybin             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached02:49
Psil0CybinMem:       3926076     919008    3007068          0      33968     51498402:49
Psil0Cybin-/+ buffers/cache:     370056    355602002:49
Psil0CybinSwap:      4069372          0    406937202:49
raubCan you pass more than one ntp server through dhcp? If so, would ubuntu get them all or just the first one?02:50
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Psil0Cybinsorry just interesting cuz hardly any swap is ever used for me :D02:50
Psil0Cybinand i thought it always get used loll02:50
rwwwhy would your computer use slow swap when there's plenty of fast memory available?02:50
zykotick9Psil0Cybin: Windows foolishly uses swap (virtual memory) like you are describing02:50
Psil0Cybinhaha wow, thanks guys for explaining this i just learned so much about what swap actually is...02:50
Psil0Cybinso Its normal for my swap to always be free :D like from what I just outputted, I have a working swap right?02:51
Psil0Cybinjust it does not get used.02:51
k1l_Psil0Cybin: its a fallback02:51
jhutchinsraub: Supposed to be able to pass at least two.02:51
jhutchinsPsil0Cybin: While swap is a good fallback, like k1l_ said, it's not verry efficient, and if your system starts making much use of it you'll notice a significant slowdown.02:53
jhutchinsPsil0Cybin: A web server that's actively swapping might as well be off-line.02:53
Psil0Cybinthanks for that additional explanation :D you guys are actually amazing so it is like a last call type thing02:53
Psil0Cybinjust to have your system running02:53
Psil0Cybinbarely02:54
Psil0Cybin:D02:54
rwwI don't bother with swap on my machine. If something's using 4GB of RAM, I want it gone.02:54
jhutchinsPsil0Cybin: If you have multiple programs swapping at the same time, your command response can get over a minute or more.02:54
Psil0Cybinwowowowow02:54
Psil0Cybini did not know that jhutchins !02:54
Psil0Cybini had a wrong idea of whawt swap was all along02:54
jhutchinsPsil0Cybin: Many years ago, virtual memory was a more useful feature, when memory was expensive and slow (we're talking mainframes).02:56
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CrypticByteis anyone having problems with teh 12.04lts repo?  Its only going like 60kbs for me02:57
rww!mirror02:57
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Saucy, and help keeping the servers' load low!02:57
rwwuse a different mirror02:57
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MR_Wazzap11Would anyone know if running Ubuntu 12.04 on and AMD-E300 APU and 4GB RAM laptop with a 320 GB 7200RPM Hdd would run well?02:57
Guest45929Hi i'm having a problem with gnome themes02:57
jhutchinsCrypticByte: We just had a point release  Heavy load.02:57
Guest45929MR_Wazzap11, Yes02:57
CrypticByteah ok that may explain the issue then :P02:58
swatsonhello02:58
Guest45929Does this irc channel also help me with ubuntu-gnome?02:58
CrypticByteI supose they can as long as it isn't anything to do with gnome itself02:59
jhutchinsMR_Wazzap11: Should be pretty good.02:59
Guest45929Oh, well i'm having a problem applying a gtk theme, the gnome irc wouldn't answer02:59
Scott_PuopoloI installed 12.04.4 via mini iso which detected and used my network card.  After rebooting, the network card is disabled.  It is 0e11:ae32 Netelligent 10/100.  Any ideas how to get it working again?03:00
MR_Wazzap11Ok cause I'm officially switching on my Laptop now Thanks jhutchins03:00
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MR_Wazzap11Would it be better to go with 13.10 or 12.04? What re the differences?03:01
Guest4592913.10 is newer, 12.04 is more stable03:01
Guest4592913.10 has more features03:01
MR_Wazzap11Like what Guest4592903:02
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Guest45929MR_Wazzap11 More...uhh03:02
Guest45929All of these: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-best-features-of-ubuntu-1310/03:03
MR_Wazzap11Would you recommend 13.XX 12.XX ?03:03
MR_Wazzap11over*03:03
Guest45929MR_Wazzap11 I reccomend 13, it seems as if you are new03:03
YellowGTOWho feels like doing some generous hand holding! I've been at this all day and I really can't get this disk to auto mount. I've tried every guide and I even tried using gnome-disks03:04
MR_Wazzap11Well I've used 12.04 a lot but never in depth, it was temporarily over and over03:04
YellowGTOI can mount it via terminal, but I can't auto mount. What info do you need to help?03:04
Guest45929MR_Wazzap11 If you have an underspecced PC like a pentium 4 use 1203:04
MR_Wazzap11its an AMD-E30003:04
Guest45929MR_Wazzap11 On the pc you listed 13 would be fine, no real major changesa03:05
Guest45929MR_Wazzap11 It's not windows 8 lol03:05
MR_Wazzap11I have an Acer Aspire 5250-0678  with 4GB ram instead of the retailed 303:05
MR_Wazzap11Hahaha Win8 is shit03:05
MR_Wazzap11I mean poops............03:05
YellowGTOhttp://pastebin.com/mdxX6PE503:06
Guest45929YellowGTO: Can you mount it manually03:06
YellowGTOYeah mounting manually works fine03:06
YellowGTOmount /dev/sdb1 /media/TV works great.03:07
Guest45929YellowGTO: I'm a n00b, idk make a script or something (I'm sorry, I'm really new to linux, so i'm probably not the part of the community you want)03:07
YellowGTOIts okay, I wait for someone else to chime in :) Thanks for the interest03:08
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somsipYellowGTO: what have you tried? Can you post your /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntu.com?03:10
Bashing-omYellowGTO: What release and desk top are you using ?03:10
YellowGTOI just formatted so fstab is now blank03:10
YellowGTOIts Xubuntu 13.1003:10
somsipYellowGTO: fstab should never be completely blank.03:11
YellowGTOWell03:11
Tuck_C_Doughanyone use teamspeak ?03:11
YellowGTOhttp://pastebin.com/Vna5c6Yt03:11
YellowGTOThats what it is now03:11
Bashing-omYellowGTO: What have you set in setting -> Removable drives and media ?03:12
somsipYellowGTO: so you have no entry in there to try to mount this drive?03:12
calvadosits abit generic question but, i was "tar" archiving (no compress) a folder size of 300gb , my tar archive file is 500gb now. is there anything wrong ?03:12
somsip!fstab | YellowGTO03:13
ubottuYellowGTO: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions03:13
YellowGTOsomsip just cameback with a fresh format03:13
rypervencheTuck_C_Dough: Yep.03:13
YellowGTOAfter I hosed the install03:13
Tuck_C_Doughhow to get the playback device in teamspeak options to recognize the default playback device03:13
MR_Wazzap11wtf are you compressing that size!03:13
YellowGTOBashing-om, Im not tracking03:13
rwwMR_Wazzap11: they're not compressing it, it's .tar03:14
somsipYellowGTO: well, add the line to mount the disk you want, and then explain how that is not working03:14
MR_Wazzap11Yeah I mean just the fact that it's 300GB o.O Full system backup? xD03:14
rypervenchecalvados: Is this for a backup?03:15
Tuck_C_Doughthe error msg reads: Error opening playback device: device not registered/known03:15
calvadosrypervenche: yes i am moving them to s3 bucket on aws03:15
calvadosMR_Wazzap11: no just my home folder :)03:16
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Best of my knowledge Xubuntu uses xfce for the dest top, see what is set in "Removable drives and media" from the settings menue ? // Your fstab file looks fine, Automounting is not handled by fstab, it is a function of udisk2,03:16
rypervenchecalvados: I would recommend using something else to backup your things, such as rdiff-backup. It will be much quicker each time you backup and it can keep multiple backups.03:16
calvadosrypervenche: hm well i am worrying about size, its one time thing but tar size almost doubled folder size03:17
YellowGTOThis is an actually sata drive Bashing-om it shows up on the desktop03:17
YellowGTOBut I need to right click and hit mount03:17
rypervenchecalvados: You probably got something in there that you didn't intend.03:17
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Then sir, it is mounted .03:17
YellowGTONo its listed be grayed out.03:18
YellowGTOYou need to right click on it and select mount.03:18
calvadosrypervenche: hm like what ? I know there are lots of files inside, even small files03:18
YellowGTOhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/qiqjcsxx5bkhp6y/Screenshot%202014-02-09%2022.18.32.png03:18
Bashing-omYellowGTO: if you click on the icon for the external drive, what results ?03:18
rypervenchecalvados: It would be hard to tell without knowing exactly what's in there and being able to tinker around with it. I would recommend at least using rsync to update your changes. rdiff-backup or rsnapshot would be the best way though, because each backup after the first would only move over the changes, so it would not take the time to tar up the new file and then send it over.03:19
rypervenchecalvados: Plus, recovery is a snap and very fast. If you're interested in setting something like that up, send me a PM.03:19
Bashing-omYellowGTO: OK, that is normal, one can if you want that changed, mount the device from fstab.03:19
calvadosrypervenche: i will go rsync thanks03:19
YellowGTOYeah thats what im trying to do03:20
YellowGTOProblem is I can't ask for support once I crash03:20
YellowGTOBEcause I remoted in03:20
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB // Have you seen this howto ?03:21
MR_Wazzap11Ok guys night :)03:21
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user--add user03:24
themanwhat up03:24
YellowGTOAight lets see if it crashes UUID="deb802ce-8cf6-4a87-9f07-01d3a144b7d7 /media/TV auto rw,user,exec, 0 003:25
themanya crashes03:25
Bashing-omYellowGTO: looks ok ..IF it is not formated as NTFS or FATxx .03:26
YellowGTOI thought auto was auto detect file system03:26
Bashing-omYellowGTO: YES, BUT, the permissions and access if NTFS or fat must be set, So what are we dealing with here ?03:27
YellowGTOWhen I view it with disks it says its NTFS and ext4. But the server is now down. Ill have to go manually bypass the error03:28
YellowGTOBrb03:28
Bashing-omYellowGTO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen-Understanding fstab // here is the tutorial to cope !03:29
raubjhutchins: found my issue: my options-dhcp statement was wrong03:31
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Remember, oone can not impose ubuntu's file system structure on NTFS (Windows), we got to "work-around" it.03:31
Psil0Cybinhey does anyone know how I can set up ERP5 on Ubuntu ?? with Zope03:31
rypervenchecalvados: All right. Good stuff.03:34
tradeinfohello03:36
YellowGTOWell that sucked03:36
YellowGTOI slipped in the snow and hurt my thumb :(03:36
YellowGTOBashing-om, https://www.dropbox.com/s/pria2njpzhfo1si/Screenshot%202014-02-09%2022.35.56.png03:36
YellowGTOI don't really understand what that means. Is there a way to change the filesystem without formatting?03:37
Bashing-omYellowGTO: I will look.03:37
YellowGTOI would gladly make it EXT but I don't have the space or time to really backup and restore03:37
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Bashing-omYellowGTO: That screenshot looks to me like there are 2 partitions. Let's work with tools I am familiar with, pastebin -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l <-, Did you get my last two references ?03:41
YellowGTONoI don't belive so03:41
Bashing-omYellowGTO: I bet we can work with what is.03:42
YellowGTO-lu http://pastebin.com/CALNqZnx03:42
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Bashing-omYellowGTO:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen-Understanding fstab ,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB03:43
YellowGTOparted -l http://pastebin.com/MjJU5XYa03:44
Bashing-omYellowGTO: looking at 5XYa03:44
YellowGTOYeah I read skimmed through these but I didn't see any information about my particular issue03:47
Bashing-omYellowGTO: 'http://pastebin.com/MjJU5XYa' shows me 2 hard disk 1TB and 2 TB, and NTFS is not in the picture, show me the "sudo fdisk -lu ", then we will look at UUIDs03:48
YellowGTOhttp://pastebin.com/CALNqZnx That is fdisk -lu03:49
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Bashing-omYellowGTO: looking at gznx .03:49
KxTwoHey guys, I am running ubuntu server on an older machine fo mine and have it hosting a docuwiki.  I can get to the page from outside my network but for some reason if I try to go to it from home I can't.  Any thoughts?03:51
YellowGTOI don't know what gznx is :(03:51
mskimhello03:54
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Bashing-omYellowGTO: I do not have a clue what to do - to be honest - fdisk says that disk is ext4 (ubuntu) BUT parted says that disk is NTFS (Windows), I have no idea how this can happen.03:57
YellowGTOWhats odd is this disk had been auto mounting for about 3 years03:58
YellowGTOI just formated because of a weird zoneminder issue03:58
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YellowGTOAnd now I cna't get it to automount anymore. I think im just going to convert the filesystem to ext403:58
YellowGTOSee what happens03:58
* cvvmaster need c99 shell urgently03:59
YellowGTOBashing-om, http://partedmagic.com/03:59
Bashing-omYellowGTO: I wish I had the knowledge to explain why 2 different partition tables are seen. Looking at the partedmagic shot.04:00
somsip!illegal | cvvmaster04:01
ubottucvvmaster: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o04:01
Bashing-omYellowGTO: need the rest of the partedmagic link.04:02
* cvvmaster slaps somsip around a bit with a large trout04:02
YellowGTOrest of it?04:02
Bashing-omYellowGTO: What are you trying to show me "  http://partedmagic.com/" is the home page.04:03
YellowGTOOh it has a tool to convert file system04:03
YellowGTOWell it really makes a 2nd partition moves stuff over. extends partition moves more stuff of04:03
YellowGTOUntil its all ext4 or whatever04:03
zgsppdaleHi04:04
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Might be a good idea -But  I do not know, would be nice to look at the partition table(s) before doing anything, would not waant to make the situation worse.04:05
YellowGTOgparted see the filesystem as ext404:07
YellowGTObtw04:07
mskimkvm is hard to me. especially virtio04:08
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Got an idea, what file system were the files on the disk originally before reformatting ?04:09
YellowGTOThis is a 2nd disk. About 5 years ago when I switched to ubuntu it was running on Windows server 200304:10
YellowGTOMaybe 4 years ago, but anyway everythings been running fine since then. Until today when I formated and can't get it auto mounted anymore04:11
Bashing-omYellowGTO: and the disk was then formatted to ext4 ? - or were the files left intact and just the partition table changed ?04:12
YellowGTOI don't really remember04:13
YellowGTOIt was a long time ago :(04:13
Bashing-omYellowGTO: SERVER, raid meta data !, is raid a factor that we need to get rid of that old meta data ?04:13
YellowGTOIt was never in raid04:14
YellowGTOI found an external HDD that should have enough space to backup the drive04:15
YellowGTOBrb gonna plug it in and backup everything04:15
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Well, I am at a lose to explain where BTFS is cropping up. Anyone else care to chime in here with a suggestion ?04:15
zgsppdaleDoes this channel support 13.10 Ubuntu Server?04:17
fibz_yes, but you might want to check in with #ubuntu-server for server specific inquiries04:18
zgsppdalefibs_:Okay. Thanks! ^^04:18
YellowGTOBashing-om, 12 hours to back :(04:29
MyroHey guys, i recently came accross an issue, im dualbooting ubuntu / windows on a ssd with grub. i restarted my pc to update a windows update and now when grub tries to load i come up with: Grub Rescue no such partition04:31
Myrobut im still able to view the files when i use a usb loader of ubuntu04:31
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MrCuriousis there an easy way to tell what process is strobing the disk?  lsof spams a lotta output04:33
Bashing-omYellowGTO: We will take this back up tomorrow ! .. the UUID will change, format to ext4 as native to ubuntu, -> check with sudo blkid <- to add to fstab.04:34
Myroanyone?04:35
YellowGTOOkay, I think I was entering the fstab line correctly it was just the odd double filesystem thing stopping it.04:35
YellowGTOThanks for the help Bashing-om04:35
kuroarashihi there04:35
fibz_Myro,  on the live USB, install boot-repair04:35
fibz_!boot-repair | Myro04:36
Myroi did, i ran it and still no change04:36
kuroarashiwhat is the problem bro04:36
fibz_boot-repair failed to repair a broken grub04:36
Myro04:31] <Myro> Hey guys, i recently came accross an issue, im dualbooting ubuntu / windows on a ssd with grub. i restarted my pc to update a windows update and now when grub tries to load i come up with: Grub Rescue no such partition [04:31] <Myro> but im still able to view the files when i use a usb loader of ubuntu04:36
kuroarashiahhh ok04:37
Bashing-omYellowGTO: Not much help, and I do want to see this through to resolution. I just do not see how there can be 2 partition tables - as GPT is not a factor.04:37
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buuOk, so, I inserted an audio cd into a fairly generic ubuntu install, and a music player popped up and started playing tracks, which is nice, but how do I copy the disk? I tried dd /dev/sr0 but I get input/output errors..04:38
Myrois there a way to reinstall grub without causing damage to the partitions04:38
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buuMyro: grub shouldn't have anything to do with the partition table on a disk04:39
buu"dd: reading ‘/dev/sr0’: Input/output error"04:39
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21WACCEWUbuu: I suggest using something like vlc to export it.  VLC has that capability, and if you don't like VLC there are numerous other pieces of software that do it as well04:42
Myrosince the repair didnt work, is there anything else i can do or should i attempt to just reinstalling an OS04:43
daftykinsMyro: check out boot repair04:43
daftykinsonly thing i can say quickly as i head to bed :)04:43
Myroi tried dling the boot repair, updating and installing, then running it04:43
Myroto no avail04:44
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buu21WACCEWU: Thanks, I ended up using cdrdao, but why can't I just read the data as bytes?04:44
21WACCEWUcds are encrypted04:45
buuaudio cds are?!04:45
21WACCEWUof course they are04:45
buuIs there no god04:45
buuI thought redbook prohibited encryption04:45
21WACCEWUthe entertainment encryption industry are all money grubbing idiots04:45
21WACCEWUthey somehow think that pissing everyone off equates to more money for them04:46
21WACCEWUbut instead, it's gotten to the point where pirating bluray rips is easier than actually playing blurays04:46
MyroSo if the repair doesnt work, should i just reinstall?04:47
21WACCEWUMyro: I suspect that reinstalling will be easier04:48
daftykinsMyro: boot your liveCD/USB, chroot your install then try an update-grub04:48
daftykinsif you haven't already04:48
daftykins!chroot04:48
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot04:48
daftykinsi have to go though, so gl04:48
21WACCEWUthough, all hope is probably not lost if you're dead set on repairing it04:48
Myrowell repairing it i can work on tonight04:49
Myroi can grab a rando windows distro at work tomorrow04:49
buu21WACCEWU: Well and I just learned that this isn't even a "CD" its a "SACD"04:49
xwalkI just installed openSuSE on my desktop using a flash drive that I need to reuse for other files that need to go from my current workstation running Ubuntu 13.10 to the desktop I just did the openSuSE installation on. I can't mount my flash drive that I just used as anything but read-only and it doesn't show if a "df -h" command is run. Is there any way I can reformat it?04:50
buu"Copy protection schemes include physical pit modulation and 80-bit encryption of the audio data, with a key encoded on a special area of the disk that is only readable by a licensed SACD device. The HD layer of an SACD disc cannot be played back on computer CD/DVD drives, and SACDs can only be manufactured at the disc replication facilities in Shizuoka and Salzburg.[36] [37]"04:50
buuBrilliant.04:51
21WACCEWUlike I said. easier to pirate it than to play it04:51
buuYep04:52
buuI'm ripping the conventional layer out of sheer bloody-mindedness04:53
unitypunk__ugh, wtf is wrong with my x server04:57
unitypunk__xrandr only outputs 2 video mades04:57
unitypunk__*modes04:57
unitypunk__but in the xorg log it says it got the edid04:57
xwalkIt seems installing and using gparted as the solution solved the problem.05:00
xwalkI wish the default tools for disk management would actually work.05:00
xwalkWell, now the USB stick is still mounted as read-only even after I formatted it.05:02
ryan_344join #maxhelp05:02
unitypunk__x11 worked fine for years wtf,,05:04
agent_whiteNoob cannon question: Is there a log for what is entered in the console?  I'm having an issue where "echo 'sdf' > file" turns into "echo 'sdf > someRandomFile > file"... and I'm not sure where to look to diagnose it.05:04
mskimhello05:14
kannanunnihaiii05:19
duckfartsohai05:25
duckfartsso im trying to use firefox to start a torrent with the magnet link05:26
duckfartsand i have to choose a program to use05:26
duckfartswhich is transmission05:26
duckfartsbut idk how to find transmission in the file system05:26
geirhaagent_white: How do you determine that?05:26
geirhaagent_white: Anyway, my first guess would be an alias or function named echo. If so, ''type echo'' should tell you05:29
teedoutype echo05:30
Jarg_hi all05:30
agent_whitegeirha: I did check my alias's and nothing was in there... and nothing turned up for that either. Thank you for that command though, never knew about it!05:33
geirhaagent_white: so it just says echo is a builtin?05:34
agent_whitegeirha: yessir!05:34
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geirhaagent_white: Ok, next thing to look for would be a DEBUG trap, or some odd commands in PROMPT_COMMAND or PS1. Does ''trap -p DEBUG'' output anything?05:35
mskimnetwork setting is hardlest work to me05:35
agent_whitegeirha: Will do! Give me a few here to let you know, need to install some missing packages.05:36
teedouapa ini?05:36
yggdrasilhi, im reading this.. and how do i download/compile the new codec that ist listed at the end of this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705713&page=3&s=c288a968886f7c1d06fa37a1a18ca31805:37
agent_whitegeirha: Also, when I hit [enter], it spilled out the command to the line below... which is odd since I know normally 'echoing to a file' shouldn't show the command entered. If that makes a difference?05:37
Jarg_anyone know how to install rails under ubuntu? im new to it and just got ubuntu virtual box working05:37
geirhaagent_white: I'm still curious how you determine/see... ah, sounds like set -v and/or set -x is in effect05:38
geirhaagent_white: what does ''echo "$-"'' output?05:38
xanguaduckfarts: /urs/bin/transmission-gtk I believe05:38
agent_whitegeirha: I'll make a gist with the exact output of it!05:39
yggdrasilJarg_: what is rails?05:39
agent_whitegeirha: himBH05:39
somsipJarg_: what version of ubuntu?05:41
agent_whitegeirha: Here's the gist... doesn't say too much though :P https://gist.github.com/jakenotjacob/891092005:46
geirhaagent_white: Ok, did ''trap -p DEBUG'' output anything? if not, what does this say? ''declare -p PROMPT_COMMAND PS1''05:47
yggdrasilso can someone give me hand with this post ? is it the ffmpeg codec or mplayer that i need to compile ?05:47
yggdrasilhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705713&page=3&s=c288a968886f7c1d06fa37a1a18ca31805:48
yggdrasili guess its libavcodec05:50
agent_whitegeirha: I'll update the gist so I won't spam the channel! One sec here05:51
geirhaagent_white: oh hang on, I didn't notice the exclamation mark (!) in your paste at first. If you run the same command, just without the exclamation mark, does the same thing happen?05:52
agent_whitegeirha: No worries! I updated the gist, though `trap -p DEBUG` gave me no output. And ... geirha you are onto something.05:53
agent_whitegeirha: No, only with the exclamation mark it happens.05:54
agent_whiteDo I need to escape that when echo'ing?05:54
somsipagent_white: use single quotes, IIRC05:54
chamunks!icinga05:55
somsipagent_white: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6697753/difference-between-single-and-double-quotes-in-bash05:55
agent_whitesomsip: Ahhh! Thanks for the link!05:55
agent_whitegeirha: Thank you very much! Gah can't thank you enough for checking out my issue! I thought I was going crazy :P05:56
somsipagent_white: the link refers speficially to the history command - !05:56
agent_whitePEBKAC at its finest, eh?05:56
geirhaagent_white: Personally, I don't like history expansion, so I disable it by putting ''set +H'' in my ~/.bashrc05:57
agent_whitesomsip/geirha: I'm actually not even familiar with history expansion... I'll do a little research and add that to my bashrc. Awesome! Thank you again!05:58
geirhaIn my opinion history expansion is very dangerous unless you know how it works, so it shouldn't be enabled by default05:58
agent_whiteYeah that's something I think I'll steer away from for now. Gah that's relieving. Seeing it append 'iptables...' made me concerned hahah. D:06:01
* agent_white stops the clamav scan06:01
duckfartsubuntu won't reformat my usb stick06:06
duckfartsusing right click reformat06:06
duckfartsand gparted isn't really working either06:07
duckfartsalso i have an nvidia 400m series graphics card that isn't working with ubuntu very well06:09
duckfartsI can't use hdmi output06:09
duckfartsand my mouse likes to flicker06:09
duckfartsany suggestions?06:09
* treehouse licks duckfarts in the ear06:10
MichaelTunnell? what06:11
treehouseduckfarts: about your gfx card, it's usually (pretty much always) a driver issue. Manufacturers usually don't support linux. But I think nvidia is, for some series (so you can download it form their website).06:11
treehouseThere is also some suboptimal open-source drivers for nvidia, called whatever.06:12
duckfartsya im using a suboptimal opensource driver at the moment06:13
duckfartswhen i tried installing the nvidia linux driver it didnt work06:13
duckfartsit installed and when i restarted all I could see was a weird cursor and nothing else on my home screen06:14
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duckfartsbut a more specific ubuntu issue: i cant use the gui to change permissions or reformat my usb drive06:15
duckfartswhy is it so hard to put files on a usb stick?06:15
harsesusyah, the permissions screen in nautilus is buggy06:16
treehouseduckfarts: try sudo nautilus in a terminal06:17
harsesusi just use the terminal.  I'm sure they have gotten a fuck ton of crash reports06:17
duckfartsthanks treehouse06:18
zykotick9!gksudo | duckfarts06:18
ubottuduckfarts: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)06:18
zykotick9treehouse: ^06:18
treehousethnx06:18
harsesusit ussually still crashes with gksudo06:19
duckfartsi would think basic functionality like writing to a usb drive would be something high on the todo list on ubuntu development06:20
harsesusare you refering to the usb startup creator, they fixed that06:22
duckfartsno being able to format the drive/write to it without using the terminal06:23
harsesusstartup disk creator06:23
harsesusit was buggy, its fixed, or you can use unetbootin (i probably mistyped that)06:24
duckfartsok06:25
duckfartswhen i tried using gparted instead of the native ubuntu menus it wouldn't get along with ubuntu06:26
duckfartsi'll try startup disk creator06:26
harsesusunetbootin is pretty popular too, but you have to d/l it.  i haven't had any issues with gparted, but if it crashes you might wanna file a bug06:28
zack2468lets talk06:36
zack2468hello06:37
xangua!ot | zack246806:37
ubottuzack2468: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:37
zack2468about my ban06:37
zack2468cuz knome is off and so is unit 19306:38
Beldarzack2468, #ubuntu-ops06:39
zack2468ok06:39
ses1984i'm trying to resize an lvm group, i've never used lvm before and i'm really confused..i thought this was supposed to be easier but nothing makes sense06:40
ses1984i have a virtual machine that uses a file as a hard disk. i've cloned that file except made the maximum size 10x bigger, now i have to make whatever changes necessary to LVM06:41
ses1984and the file systems in order to be able to take advantage of that space06:41
helmut_hi06:48
cyborg4Hey,06:52
cyborg4I have a problem with my ThinkPad T30 running Lubuntu.06:52
cyborg4It's not compatible with the tp_smapi driver, so how can I gain control of my battery?06:52
cyborg4ATM I can't even get my battery to charge.06:53
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duckfartsctrl alt d isn't showing my desktop?07:03
duckfartswhat is the <super> button?07:04
geirhaduckfarts: The one with windows logo07:05
duckfartsoh nevermind07:05
YellowGTOBashing-om Doh, I typed * instead of # in the comment07:10
YellowGTOThat what was stopping it07:10
Tommnemon: hello07:19
lickalottAnyone on here have a galaxy S3 or S4 that transfer files to their internal sd card?07:21
lickalotti just installed gmtp but whenever I plug the phone in I get "Error initializing camera: -60: Could not lock the device"07:21
lickalottand gmtp doesn't pick it up07:21
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vince_ince07:25
vince_haha07:25
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ckknightis pptp vpn server can connect to ldap server? To connect to vpn server can i use my account in ldap.07:37
fumanchu33hi07:39
fumanchu33Q: my brand new ubuntu installation won't boot on my laptop. Xorg.0.log says 'Screens found, but none have a usable configuration'. I've been told it might be a problem with an Intel graphics chipset, but I know of people installing Ubuntu on the exact same laptop. Any ideas?07:41
Semormy server's db thread occupy 60% cpu time07:43
Semorit makes other thread block for 100ms07:44
fumanchu33anyone know how to setup ubuntu just to use the basic default graphics so it won't break X with the ones it installed for me?07:46
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somsipSemor: you probably need to ask in ##mysql07:48
somsipfumanchu33: you can install using the minimal ISO and then install what you want on top of that, but your question is not too clear07:48
fumanchu33somsip: the default Ubuntu installation never boots on my machine. It is configuring something that then crashes X with a "Screen configured but none of them have a usable configuration" error. What can I do?07:49
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somsip!nomodeset | fumanchu3307:50
ubottufumanchu33: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter07:50
fumanchu33I tried using the xorg.conf.failsafe, but even that gives me an error07:50
fumanchu33ubottu: I have nomodeset set, x still crashes with an error07:50
ubottufumanchu33: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:50
makarahi. I'm trying to RDP into a Windows server using Remmina. I don't know the IP address and nslookup shows nothing, but the PC appears in Nautilus/Samba07:50
somsipfumanchu33: explain your installation process, especially with regards to video card drivers07:50
fumanchu33Um, I just did everything it asked me? There was never anything regarding video cards.07:51
Ben64makara: scan the network with nmap07:51
fumanchu33Except I ahd to use nomodeset to even enter the installation07:51
makaraBen64, what am I looking for?07:51
Ben64makara: you can scan ip ranges and ports to find a computer with the correct port open07:52
maysarahi, I recently installed MATLAB. When I start it form the launcher, I get error although it works fine by executing "sudo matlab" in terminel. How can I get the launcher to work as super user?07:53
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makaraBen64, something like this: "nmap -sV -p 3389 192.168.4.1-254"07:54
Ben64makara: could work07:55
wooddoor-ljftest irc07:57
somsip!test | wooddoor-ljf07:57
ubottuwooddoor-ljf: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )07:57
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fumanchu33somsip: any ideas?07:59
somsipfumanchu33: what is your video card?08:00
fumanchu33somsip: i have no idea, how do i find out?08:00
fumanchu33somsip: when I do lspci it says under VGA: Intel Haswell ULT Integrated Graphics Controller rev 0908:01
fumanchu33Is that the one you're talking about?08:01
somsipfumanchu33: sudo lshw -c Video08:01
somsipfumanchu33: and what version of ubuntu?08:01
fumanchu33the newest one (13.10 i think)08:01
fumanchu33somsip: lshw says : display UNCLAIMED, VGA compatible controller, product: Haswell-ULT Integratred Graphics Controller08:02
somsipfumanchu33: asus zenbook?08:02
fumanchu33somsip: no, NEC LaVie08:04
makaraBen64, there too many to look through08:04
somsipfumanchu33: then I'd suggest searching for that disply card or that laptop. That's all I'm doing for you, and I have other things to do right now. Read around the subject and see what you can find, and try here later when there are more people on08:05
fumanchu33thanks i guess lol08:05
makaraMy colleague simply put in the name of the PC on his Windows machine. So I'm guessing the domain controller is doing some address translation08:05
makarai'm just curious that Nautilus can find it08:06
makaragot it, using nmblookup!08:07
Ben64you can sometimes use a local dns server to look it up\08:07
makarait's a Netbios name08:07
Ben64$ host COMPY 192.168.1.1 \\\\\ COMPY has address 192.168.1.23608:07
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syafiqanyone here can help me install and configure nagios server?? i tried to install in centos 6.5 but failed so far08:15
greetergreetings. i recently did apt-get upgrade and the upgrade seems to have run, but it told me to try running apt-get --fix-missing because some archives couldn't be fetched08:16
greeterwhen i tried that though, it simply provided a list of commands with options. has the option to do that been changed?08:17
ocxhello all! i would like to have like a small webserver on my local computer that allowss me to see my local images as thumbail nad allow me to upload my selected images into my cloud server, any full sofware that does it? thank you alot!08:25
user258467Hi, how do I disable Super+P, every time I use this sequence it change my screen setup08:31
ocxanyone?08:31
somsipocx: you need to explain more. What images? What cloud server?08:32
aeon-ltduser258467: have you looked at this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keybindings08:33
ocxsomsip: i have some local images, i need to see them in my browser , seelct some of them and send them to a remote server using any kind of segmented filestransfer protocol so that if the line breaks, the transfer restores when the connection is back08:33
ttalwould there be a specific reason why I'm sporadically getting the "This video is currently unavailable." message in youtube? Is this a flash or codec issue?08:34
user258467aeon-ltd, I look every keybindings that are configured but there is no Super+P08:34
somsipocx: Then you need something on your server that can POST the image via an HTTP request to something that can receive the HTTP POST on the server and take some action with it. Sound like you need something built around PHP to me08:34
ocxsomsip: any software you can point me to? i cant find any..08:35
somsipocx: I'd write my own if I needed to do that. I remember using 'uploadify' as the basis for this last time I needed to use a file upload thingy.08:36
ocxsomsip: mainly uploadify is accessed via webserver? you select your local files and press upload so they get uploaded on that webserver righT?08:39
somsipocx: basically, yes (from memory)08:40
ocxsomsip: my case is the webserver will show the pictures in a certain directory as thumbail, so no need to upload the files myself, then i would select the files in that directory and press upload (will take these local files into a remote server)08:41
changeguyok so i have up to date android browsers, and ubuntu jaunty with fire fox 8 as browser choices. firefox has update channels listed in jaunty and flash works. should i use mobile browsers for more security or stick to firefox 8?08:41
hewomustwhy do you have jaunty?08:42
somsipocx: I think you need to be defining your problems clearly, and then looking for solutions that are close to what you want. Depending on what the server is doing with images when it receives them, HTTP might not be the best approach. It is just easy if you have to roll your own though08:42
changeguyim on an android phone and it is the OS that came with the webtop08:42
hewomusti would just use an android browser08:42
ocxsomsip: so better write my own thumbnail server ?08:43
hewomustit will run quicker on the hardware08:43
rudjgaardhi, I need some help with starting gnome after sleep/suspend, I researched but none of the commands i know works08:43
changeguyright but firefox is more ergonmical sence it actually uses the full keyboad and is smooth08:43
somsipocx: better for you to have a firm idea of the problem you're trying to solve. Then look at appropriate solutions.08:43
changeguywhat is an update channel? does the browser get secruity updates still?08:44
hewomustchangeguy: if youre using a keyboard use firefox08:44
changeguyis it secure?08:44
hewomustprobably not08:44
changeguyit says 8.0 you are on the update channel08:45
changeguymorotoral08:45
ocxsomsip: somsip my problem is  i need to secure these images and i need a nice graphical way of selecting these images and uploadingthem to my personal server08:45
hewomustchangeguy security updates stopped in 201008:45
hewomustfor jaunty08:45
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somsipocx: And you need to break that problem down further. What does 'secure' mean? What is your 'personal server'? These are rhetorical questions of course. Can you use SFTP with a graphical FTP client that shows thumbnails? Is there one? Etc, etc...08:47
Yerushalmiwhoever, jhutchins: I removed and reinstalled my wifi card.08:48
Yerushalmiwhoever, jhutchins: I've been roughly handling my computer for the last twenty minutes, including deliberately picking it up when I'm about to cough (I've been sick all week), and it hasn't droplinked even once.08:49
Yerushalmiwhoever, jhutchins: So thank you so much for all the help! I don't see TJ- in channel right now, but if you could pass my thanks on to him as well that would be awesome.08:49
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navneethi09:04
fumanchu33exit09:22
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linu1hi all i bought a new truly camera module CM5326-B500BA-E-V1 DW9712L,when i insert into ubuntu pc it listed in lsusb Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e0:1900 Symbol Technologies SNAPI Imaging Device,but not in /dev, is there any driver for that device available?09:33
greeterlinu1: have you tried installing gphoto2? i think it comes with drivers for accessing digital cameras09:34
ttali just installed xubuntu, would I need to install xubuntu extras? Or does xubuntu contain all the goody by default these days?09:35
ttalgoodies*09:35
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ActionParsnipttal: yes xubuntu-restricted-extras09:41
ttalwould that be why I'm sporadically getting the "This video is currently unavailable." message in youtube? Is this a flash or codec issue?09:42
ActionParsnipttal: try the restricted extras package, see if it helps09:42
ActionParsnipttal: which browser(s) have you tried?09:43
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usr13ttal: xubuntu-restricted-extras09:45
usr13ttal: Maybe the video is just unavailable, (as youtube says).09:45
NoonethinksofthiSo I've once again deleted a partition of a multi o/s hard drive that also messe dup my grub boot-loader. Can I fix it from within windows at all? I just can't be effed copying another live usb to run boot-repair on.09:46
ttalusr13: happens so often though. It's unlike youtube..09:46
ttalJust started happening on this box.09:46
usr13ttal: Are you using firefox?09:46
usr13ttal: Is the date/time correct?09:47
ttalchromium.09:48
ttalmy system date/time is correct.09:48
tewnuse google hacks09:48
usr13ttal: I don't have any problems (with firefox).09:49
ttaltewn: Whats that?09:50
usr13ttal: But if you are getting "This video is currently unavailable." it sounds like something that is beyond the scope of your system.09:50
ttalyeah appears that way. Because sites in general are ok.09:50
ttalMaybe a regional thing?..09:50
usr13ttal: Could be.09:51
ttalWas trying to see a Jimmy Kimmel clip, and im in New Zealand.09:51
randomclownhey with upstart scripts you can automatically restart the servicce it dies, can I use it to start more than 3 processes and use upstart to keep watch on all of them?09:52
usr13ttal: I think you are just a victum of circumstance.09:53
randomclownwithout need to write 3 next to identitical .conf files that is09:53
usr13ttal: sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra09:54
usr13ttal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/403363/this-video-is-currently-unavailable-youtube09:54
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usr13ttal: "clear your cache and cookies"09:55
ttalincognito window worked...09:56
ttalhmm so what would that mean.09:56
usr13i dono09:56
usr13I don't use chromium, I use firefox, (and I do not have that problem).09:57
ttalmaybe suggests the regional thing? incognito meaning hiding my identity / location?09:57
usr13I dono09:57
ttalok, ill keep testing, thanks for your help. I appreciate it.09:57
usr13Yea, let us know09:57
usr13ttal: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22This+video+is+currently+unavailable.%22+youtube&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a09:59
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Arcanis_Hello. I don't really know what I did but I need help xD.10:01
greeterumm, ok... what's the problem you're having Arcanis_?10:01
usr13ttal: You might switch to nameserver 8.8.8.810:01
Arcanis_Ubuntu 13.10, just installed it to check it out.  came with xorg nvidia driver.10:02
ttalusr13: what do you mean by that?10:02
Arcanis_Tried to remove that and install the one from the nvidia website.10:02
Arcanis_But the problem is, when I turn it on, it takes me to the terminal and doesn't load the GUI.10:02
usr13ttal: Change your dns server(s)10:02
usr13ttal: On your router, or on your system.10:02
Arcanis_It is either that or because I installed cinnamon.10:02
Arcanis_But I uninstalled that.10:02
linu1greeter, yes even i tried with gphoto2 but it does not give me any device in  /dev/ directory.10:03
usr13Arcanis_: Check the date on /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:03
usr13Arcanis_: Did you trun off the X server when you installed it?10:03
greeterhmm. have you checked your camera settings? sometimes cameras offer multiple connection types10:03
usr13ttal: Edit /etc/resolv.conf  and add lines nameserver 8.8.8.810:04
Arcanis_usr13 I'm not entirely sure. I just used sudo apt-get remove xorg-server10:04
Arcanis_And then, sudo sh nvidiadriver10:04
usr13Arcanis_: You removed xrog-server?10:04
Arcanis_Yep10:04
Arcanis_The Nvidia driver wouldnt run with it on.10:05
usr13Arcanis_: Not sure why you did that....10:05
Arcanis_Said it couldn't be installed.10:05
Arcanis_Because I'm new at this :D10:05
Arcanis_So basically what you are saying is to reinstall it?10:05
usr13Arcanis_: It said it couldn't be installed because the X server was running.  reinstall xorg-server10:05
Arcanis_Alright be back when that's done. I need help figuring out nvidia..10:05
Arcanis_Thanks.10:05
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usr13Arcanis_: What you should have done is  "service lightdm stop"10:06
ActionParsnipArcanis_: if you want to use the driver from nvidia.com (for whatever reason)10:06
Arcanis_ALright.10:06
ActionParsnipArcanis_: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode then select root10:06
ActionParsnipArcanis_: there is nvidia-current in the repos which will autoupdate for you as well as complete DKMS on kernel upgrades10:06
usr13Arcanis_: Yea or as ActionParsnip suggests, you can reboot into text mode.10:06
ActionParsnipArcanis_: I suggest you use that10:06
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ttalusr13: Looks like your initial solution of "sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra" worked. Thanks!10:09
linu1greeter yes it is isi camera but it now it interfaced with usb,i just connected using usb cable only.10:10
greeterhmm... i'm not sure what the issue could be. maybe a driver for that particular camera hasn't been released yet. is it a new camera?10:11
linu1greeter yes actually i bought it from my friend for r&d,it is new one.10:11
greeterthen maybe it's just a question of waiting till the driver comes out. i've found gphoto2 is usually very fast at releasing linux drivers for cameras10:12
greeteryou can try checking their website, see if your camera model is listed there10:12
greeterif it is listed and you installed gphoto2 from the repo, you might try compiling from source or using one of their binaries if available, you can sometimes get newer versions of software that way10:13
lok-jpr-indiahow to setup openssl certificates..anyone plz..where to start for them...!10:15
andreinociao a tutti10:16
linu1greeter,yes i installed gphoto2 but there is no binaries related to that camera,anyhow thanks,i will try10:16
andreino!list10:16
ubottuandreino: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».10:16
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lschuetzeAnyone familar with suspend and ACPI? Got a problem right here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220356310:24
PurplePeopleHi guys. I can't make screenshots. When I press "Prnt" I cant insert the image into any image editor like GIMP. Why is that?10:41
PurplePeopleAnd no "save"-dialog appears10:41
geirhaPurplePeople: what *does* happen?10:43
geirhaPurplePeople: Post a screenshot of what happens when you take a screenshot ^^10:43
PurplePeoplegeirha: The images are only stored in $HOME/Pictures. But no save-dialog appears.10:44
ActionParsnipPurplePeople: you can install applications like shutter10:45
PurplePeopleOk. Problem solved.10:46
ActionParsnip:)10:59
Sven_vBhi. anyone knows a simple CLI temperature converter? "units" doesn't know °F, deg F, and F seems to be about mass.11:00
FashionGihi11:00
cfhowlettFashionGi, greetings11:00
MickSSven_vB: tempF and tempC in units11:02
Sven_vBthx11:03
Sven_vBMickS, "Error in '10 tempF': Parse error"11:04
str3sset hop re11:04
shadowphrogg3264hi guys11:05
shadowphrogg3264anyone care to help to solve a strange dhcp error?11:06
gordonjcp!ask | shadowphrogg326411:06
ubottushadowphrogg3264: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:06
shadowphrogg3264gordonjcp: sorry, so the issue is that I had a blackout 2 days ago, router rebooted, leases ip to all other machines11:07
shadowphrogg3264but not for the ubuntu server11:07
ActionParsnipSven_vB: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/184539-converting-centigrade-fahrenheit-vice-versa.html11:08
shadowphrogg3264dhclient -r; dhclient -v eth0 cannot find a dhcp server11:08
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: if you set the IP manually is it ok?11:08
master_ophello, i asked here before on how to setup an smtp server, and someone told me that i can use mailgun, after registration i have the following message : Your account is disabled. Business verification is required.11:09
master_op!smtp11:09
ubottuUbuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html11:09
shadowphrogg3264in network/interfaces?11:09
master_op!postfix11:10
ubottupostfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer11:10
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: however you like, you can even use ifconfig if you like11:13
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: is this a wired connection?11:13
shadowphrogg3264yep11:14
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: tried the wire in a different port on the router?11:14
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: or a different cable?11:15
shadowphrogg3264different port check11:15
shadowphrogg3264different cable check11:15
ActionParsnipdo the lights flash on the ethernet port itself?11:15
shadowphrogg3264static ip fail11:15
shadowphrogg3264yes light flashes periodically11:15
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: does a known OK system work ok on the same cable in the same port on the router?11:15
shadowphrogg3264like there's act on the link11:15
shadowphrogg3264not tried yet11:16
shadowphrogg3264tried 3 ports, 2 cables11:16
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: might be the nic on the system11:17
shadowphrogg3264damn, it's onboard11:17
shadowphrogg3264ifconfig shows allright though11:18
shadowphrogg3264also I can ifup/down without no error11:18
ActionParsnipshadowphrogg3264: if you ifup do you get dhcp?11:19
master_opcan i install postfix to just end email and not receiving ?11:19
ikonia_master_op: it's an mta - you can use it for just outgoing mail11:19
shadowphrogg3264ActionParsnip: nope, same DHCPDISCOVER shower happens11:21
master_opgood, can i use it to send from php (for exp), and put smtp : localhost ?11:21
shadowphrogg3264and then no servers found11:21
ikonia_master_op: yes, sure if you configure it like that11:21
master_opis there any tutorial to configure it ? i followed the main tuto on ubuntu website but i cannot send mail11:22
ikonia_master_op: many tutorials on the web, however they are all hit/miss, you need to have a bit of knowledge about how mail servers work and work through trouble shooting it11:23
ikonia_master_op: eg: is this a home connection or a machine in a data center ?11:23
master_ophom connection, but i want to test and  deploy it in a VPS11:24
hitsujiTMOmaster_op: it wont work in a home connection. ISPs block port 2511:24
ikonia_master_op: ok, so if you are using a home connection, you should look to relay through your ISP's mail server too, as your home connection will probably be black listed, and some ISP's will block port 25 - although some won't, you need to check11:24
ikonia_hitsujiTMO: not all do,11:24
master_opok11:25
master_opthank you all11:25
shadowphrogg3264damn, there was a short-circuit on the branch the machines are on11:26
Arcanis_Alright, I was finally able to get back to my desktop. What is the correct way to install an Nvidia driver without breaking Xorg?11:26
hitsujiTMOikonia_: true i guess, i have just yet to come across a residential ISP that doesn't11:27
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: what gpu do you have, and what version if ubuntu?11:27
Arcanis_Ubuntu 13.10, Nvidia GTX 650 TI11:28
Arcanis_Already went to the website and downloaded the nvidia driver for linux x64.11:28
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: just: sudo apt-get install nvidia-31911:28
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: don't install from the website, install from the ubuntu repos11:28
Arcanis_Will it be the same as that Xorg crap?11:29
Arcanis_Or will it actually be the nvidia driver with the nvidia control panel?11:29
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: is the nvidia driver11:29
Arcanis_Alright thanks. It's running now.11:30
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: its just packaged specifically to run well with the existing xorg and kernel that you're using11:30
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Arcanis_So after installing the driver, restart, and it should take effect?11:34
ARNOLD-TELECOM_msg acrocity hi don man11:34
ARNOLD-TELECOM_usage11:35
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: yup. it should have triggered a generation of the xorg.conf so a restart should all be whats needed11:35
Arcanis_Thank you very much hitsujiTMO11:35
Arcanis_I think I shall be in here a bit now that I'm playing with Ubuntu :D11:35
Arcanis_Be back.11:35
ARNOLD-TELECOM_msg Arcanis hi11:36
Arcanis_By Nvidia driver, did you mean Nvidia X Server?11:42
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: its the nvidia kernel module and xserver driver11:42
Arcanis_It failed to start once. The cursor kept flashing. Then the second time it worked and generated a few errors for xorg.11:42
Arcanis_Ahh. Is there any way to get the control panel similar to Windows?11:43
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: can you pastebin the contents of: /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:43
Arcanis_To adjust settings.11:43
Arcanis_One second.11:43
ActionPa1snipARNOLD-TELECOM_: you need to prefix commands with slashes11:44
ActionPa1snipARNOLD-TELECOM_: eg:   /msg user hi11:44
hitsujiTMOArcanis_: nvidia-settings-319   is the nvidia control panel11:44
Arcanis_Oh thank you!11:44
hitsujiTMOok sorry, have to go, someone else should be able to chime in and help you further with any issues11:45
Arcanis_hitsujiTMO, there are two.11:46
Arcanis_There is a .old also11:46
Arcanis_Oh alright.11:46
Arcanis_Thanks for the help.11:46
Arcanis_Do you want the paste in here still?11:46
Arcanis_Should be fine. It is working now.11:47
shadowphrogg3264re11:48
shadowphrogg3264I crafted a loopback cable11:49
shadowphrogg3264able to ping myself thru that11:49
shadowphrogg3264nope, it was thru lo11:50
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svsurvasei am not able to install update11:57
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: can you use http://pastie.org   and give the output of:  sudo apt-get update11:58
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: or use a different pastebin if you desire11:58
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svsurvasehow yo get that update11:59
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: can you please run the command I gave and pastebin the output. Thanks11:59
ntzhello12:01
ntzdoes askbuntu have some moderators ?12:01
ActionPa1snipntz: i'd ask in #askubuntu12:01
ntzgood point :), thanks .. didn't poll alis12:02
ActionPa1snipntz: seems to be #ubuntu-stack12:02
XamusHello - ciao :)12:03
svsurvaseE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)12:04
svsurvaseE: Unable to lock the list directory12:04
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: are updates installing presently?12:04
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: or are you installing a package?12:04
shadowphrogg3264(1:04:04 PM) svsurvase: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)12:04
shadowphrogg3264(1:04:05 PM) svsurvase: E: Unable to lock the list directory12:04
shadowphrogg3264do you sudo?12:04
svsurvaseE: crossplatformui: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 212:04
Sven_vBActionPa1snip, thanks12:05
svsurvasethis error i am getting while installing an update12:05
ActionPa1snip!fixapt | svsurvase12:05
ubottusvsurvase: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:05
Rorysvsurvase: Are you making sure to use "sudo apt-get update" so it is running with the necessary privileges?12:07
svsurvaseyes12:08
iko1thanks12:08
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: does the command ubottu gave, help?12:08
svsurvaseno12:08
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: can you pastebin the output please??12:09
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: how can we possibly advise when we cannot see the results of the commands we give12:09
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: we cannot see your screen, and a flat 'no' tells us less than nothing12:09
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: think about it.....12:10
chemist^!details | svsurvase12:10
ubottusvsurvase: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:10
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svsurvaseupdate getting installed but with error i recenently told12:11
ActionPa1snipsvsurvase: use http://pastie.org   copy ALL the text from the terminal and make a paastebin of the text so we can see what is happening12:11
chemist^:D12:12
chemist^svsurvase, you could install "pastebinit" ... sudo apt-get install pastebinit ... and then just issue a command and append the pastebinit - it will automatically paste your output to pastebin, and give you an URL.... example: "sudo apt-get update | pastebinit"12:13
svsurvasethank you12:13
shiblyHi12:22
ActionPa1sniphi shibly12:22
dhendenHi all, I am having issues on a 8.0.4 LTS installation where I cannot seem to get new cron jobs to run12:22
ActionPa1snipdhenden: does the system have a desktop UI?12:23
dhendenin root user, ran crontab -e, added * * * * * /bin/echo "Test" >> /tmp/test123.txt12:23
dhendenany ideas?12:23
ActionPa1snipdhenden: does the system have a desktop UI?12:23
dhendenno only cli12:24
ActionPa1snipdhenden: is cron running as a service?12:24
dhendenYea i ran ps aux | cron12:25
ActionPa1snipdhenden: what does: service cron status       output?12:26
dhendenreturns usage, (start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload)12:27
ActionPa1snipdhenden: then you didnt run it right.12:27
dhendenthere are already crons running, checked syslog /USR/SBIN/CRON[21656]:  CMD (/bin/local/qd live >/dev/null 2>&1)12:28
ActionPa1snipdhenden: is /tmp writable?12:29
dhendenyea checked the permissions12:29
shadowphrogg3264yanked in a SMC-made RTL8139 based NIC12:31
shadowphrogg3264it works12:31
dhendeneven tried restarting cron service :S12:31
ActionPa1snipdhenden: try every 2 seconds for teh job.12:32
ActionPa1snipdhenden: do other cron jobs work ok?12:33
ActionPa1snipdhenden: when you made the crontab, did the system report that it was added ok?12:33
dhendenyea fine, If I change it I can see "crontab[11209]: (root) LIST (root)12:34
dhendenin syslog12:34
WaraqaHi, How can I know which account ubuntuone-client is connected to?12:35
Nothing_MuchQuestion, how is a Radeon Xpress 200 on Mir/Xmir?12:36
Nothing_Much*XMir12:36
WaraqaWhere is the file that store account information of u1sdtool?12:37
fibz_id expect it to go to unity2d and suck12:37
LumberJackTeamhow can i change the apps bar to the right side12:37
douglmorning12:38
shadowphrogg3264thanks all12:38
shadowphrogg3264bye12:38
Nothing_MuchHow well does a Radeon Xpress 200 run on Mir/XMir?12:38
dhendensorry got called awau12:38
dhenden*away12:38
fibz_id expect it to go to unity2d and suck12:38
dhendenback now12:38
fibz_@ Nothing4You12:38
fibz_@ Nothing_Much12:38
fibz_your better off with xfce12:39
Nothing_MuchDarn12:39
Nothing4Youfibz_: what12:39
Nothing_MuchI really can't stand XFCE12:39
somsip!mir | Nothing4You (it's not in production yet)12:39
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LumberJackTeamhow can i change the apps bar to the right side?12:39
Nothing4Youunity sucksa12:39
Nothing4Youagreed12:39
fibz_Nothing4You, sorry, auto-complete fail12:39
Nothing_MuchUnity is awesome, I hate xfce12:40
dhendenhmmm really at a lost end with this one, even tried editing /etc/crontab and crontab~ but still not run12:40
Nothing_MuchNothing4You: Sorry about my username >.>12:40
Nothing4Youunity sucks12:40
Nothing4Youfluxbox ftw12:40
fibz_then try it out, but i know the xpress200 will lag12:40
Nothing4YouNothing_Much: at least you stopped those failcompletes in #defocus :P12:40
Nothing_Muchlol12:40
Nothing_MuchWell I need a better graphics chip12:40
Nothing_MuchA Radeon HD 2000 or 3000 series would do for me :(12:41
gr33n7007hdhenden,  try removing file extensions12:41
MandlekinHello12:41
WaraqaI have the token of ubuntuone-client but how can I find the email and password?12:41
MandlekinI have question12:41
WaraqaI don't know which account it is connected to12:42
MandlekinIf a woman is with a black man, she is soiled beyond any cleansing?12:42
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Nothing4Youlol12:43
somsipWaraqa: what legitimate reason whould you have for wanting to do that?12:44
Waraqasomsip: I installed ubuntu one long time ago and forgot my account info12:45
somsipWaraqa: but you kept a token? It doesn't sound likely...12:45
WaraqaI need to get them again rather than create a new account12:45
dhendenhmmm really at a lost end with this one, even tried editing /etc/crontab and crontab~ but still not running12:46
Waraqasomsip: I found the token in gnome kerying manager12:46
Waraqasomsip: I'm connected to the account now but I don't remember which email I used12:47
ActionPa1snipdhenden: if you run:   crontab -l    do you see the job?12:48
somsipWaraqa: never used it, so I can't help. I'd imagine there was a 'reminder email' on there somewhere but maybe not12:48
Hanumaanhow to give permission to specific user after mounting through NFS ? what kind of options should be there in exports and fstab ?12:48
tux_addicthello :-) i want to switch the led of my webcam, its fired with a uvcvideo driver. is it the right direction to get the soutcecode of that driver, modify it and recompile it ?12:48
laze1989Anyone with some experience with ACPI and sleep? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203563 The lid open/close ACPI events are recognized but the laptop is not waking up on lid open :(12:48
ActionPa1snipHanumaan: nfs follows normal linux permissions so just set the permissions on the monted data as you expect12:49
ActionPa1snipHanumaan: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-ubuntu-nfs-server-configuration-howto/12:50
chemist^laze1989, i personally never use "sleep" or "hibernation" ... it's useless12:50
tux_addictagree on chemnist. the re wake ups needs more power then it saves if im not seriously mistaken12:50
chemist^laze1989, but, you could try out the "gnome-tweak-tool" or smth like that12:50
chemist^yap, the computer on idle, with monitor turned off, doesn't eat up that much power12:51
chemist^why would anyone use the "sleep" mode?12:51
laze1989tux_addict, I want it to restart faster not to safe power. Sleep sucks a lot more power compared to sleeping under windows.12:51
tux_addictlaze1989: u wont be faster waking ur machine up from sleepmode, then from idle !12:52
laze1989chemist^, I am using a laptop and if you're walking around for quick meetings it's better to just sleep and wakeup. But nvm, I dont want to talk about the pros and cons just get it working ;)12:53
chemist^laze1989, it's even better to just have it running and not sleeping12:53
HanumaanActionPa1snip, I want the same permissions which exist on the nfs server to all the nfs clients12:53
laze1989tux_addict, I dont know if we're meaning the same but I mean to suspend the machien.12:53
chemist^laze1989, just enable the setting to turn your screen of when you close the lid12:53
chemist^off*12:53
HanumaanActionPa1snip, as of now once it is mounted getting root permissions and only root can write12:54
tux_addictlaze1989 me too. the suspend mode and its recovery needs lots of time and energy. ull be faster and more efficient just with idle and a disabled screen. the only thing left would be ur harddisks, which u might not want to keep on spinning when carrieng ur book around.12:54
laze1989tux_addict, Yea but upon taking the laptop in it's case and put it in my rucksack it'll become hot in there. Just turning off the screen is not my use case. Sorry.12:56
ActionPa1snipHanumaan: then the 2nd link I gave may help, you can give certain access based on system and so forth12:56
tux_addictlaze1989 ah i think i understand now. for that usage i woul prefer to power it off. the boot process dont take more than a minute anyways12:57
tux_addictlaze1989 but u may have a look under ur exact notebook type and acpi under ur favourite search engine. it may be others have already solved that.12:58
laze1989tux_addict, Nevertheless I would like to fix the laptop is not resuming upon lid open. The event is recognized by acpid/acpi_listen. Calling pm-suspend then will not change anything so I am looking whats responsible for that.12:58
tux_addictlaze1989 sure, makes sense. what exakt type of notebook u got tzhere ?12:59
laze1989tux_addict, Samsung Series 7 Chronos 700Z3A-S02DE :) There are several people with Samsung devices and a similar problem.13:00
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laze1989tux_addict, /proc/acpi/wakeup does not list LID0 as wakeup device. Changing the OSI to different windows versions doesnt change it either.13:01
chemist^laze1989, did you take a look at gnome-tweak-tool?: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-tweak-tool-a-tool-for-changing-specialised-or-advanced-gnome3-settings.html13:02
tux_addictlaze1989 ah i see... sorry laze, i fear i cant help you on this then. i saw that there brand new forum topics about it which remain unanswered by now. hm, maybe smbdy else here can, or u may file a bugreport. or u could try askubuntu too.13:02
laze1989chemist^, I used it in older versions of Ubuntu. But the laptop does to sleep on lid close. Lid open is my problem :)13:03
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||arifaXlaze1989: on my acer lt I have to use the cursor keys once to resume, maybe same at your machine?13:04
tux_addictlaze1989 u laso may want to test the freshest kernel available, could be a chance too.13:04
laze1989||arifaX, I need to press the power button to resume13:04
dhendenreally weird, thanks for your help guys. Exited term (working remotely) reconnected and now cron is running fine :|13:05
laze1989tux_addict, Since the event is recognized by ACPI I thought it would be a problem in the software stack of Ubuntu.13:06
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Hix113:21
LumberJackTeamthe brits say that ubuntu is safe for consumption13:28
LumberJackTeamhow can i change the apps bar to the right side?13:28
jamie_is there an apt proxy program that simply acts as a transparent proxy?13:33
makaramost of my colleagues use Skype. We need a company-wide messenger system. Suggest platform independent, reliable alternative?13:33
makaraGroupwise messenger was nice back in the day13:33
jamie_I'd like to be able to just set a simple config on the clients and then have them download the files from a centralised local location13:34
jamie_so my 4 vms aren't repeatedly downloading the same 100M of files with apt-get13:34
ActionPa1snipjamie_: like a LAN based repo?13:34
ActionPa1snipjamie_: rather than all systems going to the web for packages?13:34
w0rmiei'va probelm using tftp server under xinetd to get the boot image from my main machine (server), it gives always the message tftp open timeout13:35
jamie_ActionPa1snip: like a LAN based repo crossed with squid13:35
jamie_ActionPa1snip: although I am actually using vagrant, all the hosts are local vms13:35
makarajamie_, use squi-deb-proxy13:36
makarajamie_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3503/best-way-to-cache-apt-downloads-on-a-lan13:36
makarajamie_, squid-deb-proxy13:36
makarait's zero-conf based, so the client will scan the LAN for a proxy and use it13:36
jamie_makara: thanks, I'd not seen that yet.  I'll check it out13:36
makaraI've used it. It's great13:37
ActionPa1snipjamie_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-make-my-own-local-repository13:37
makaraI've tried apt-cache, but it doesn't handle multiple version nicely13:37
ActionPa1snipjamie_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Create-a-LAN-Repository-with-Apt-Cacher-45978.shtml13:37
jamie_ActionPa1snip: also thanks13:38
makararead my comment at the bottom! :)13:38
itsprdp@kreitcher hi !13:38
bmxscott1993can some one help me how do i get  AMD Catalyst Control Center and how do i get it to work on my x1550 card i tryed it like 5 time and it go in to low mod but i have unintalled it and tryed othere way on ubuntu 13.1013:39
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Xuisce1hi all13:48
SylarioI'm trying to do a 'sudo apt-get install wkhtmltopdf' and i have a bunch of warning that files ending by "Ubuntu4.4" cannot be found, after looking on the servers, version available ends by "ubuntu4.5" and higher. WHat does that 4.4 means exactly?13:51
Xuisce1hi all13:53
BusybyeskiI have a /movie/ directory, full of many other directories of movie titles.  How can I sort these directories by their recursive size, either in CLI or GUI?13:53
Boogeymananyone familiar with conky?13:53
ActionPa1snipBusybyeski: du -sch * | sort13:54
ActionPa1snipBusybyeski: or read the sort man page for better options13:54
Busybyeskii'll have to look into du as well, thanks ActionPa1snip!13:54
fidelBoogeyman: consider #conky13:56
Boogeymanust found it, thanks13:56
Hanumaanpresent configuration of nfs http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909253/ but user or the root unable to write in the client ..13:56
Boogeyman+j13:56
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HanumaanActionPa1snip, I have tried the option what you gave but still seems to be not working ..13:57
Busybyeskiin this case, looks like "du | sort -g | less" is the right way to do it. g flag goes off numeric value.13:58
cypher-neoUgh. I like readable outputs better. Try "du -a -d1 -c -h | sort -h"13:59
Busybyeski:O it's beautiful and you tricked me into reading more14:00
fixmypc956Can someone assist in getting owncloud for ubuntu server finished or re-direct me to where I can get help with this issue?14:04
Busybyeskiwhat's a conventional way to organize tv/movie media in the Videos directory?14:04
Busybyeskior a better question.. is "Videos" expected to exist anywhere, or could I just break it down further into different types of media?14:07
JustSomeGuyhi i want to add an application to the launcher via the cli. how would i do that?14:09
xdotcommerWhen I put this in "rc.local"  it does not start my script /usr/bin/screen -dm /home/my_bash_script.sh14:11
xdotcommeram i doing something wrong14:11
naturali just wanted to say thanks. Ubuntu is doing a great job.14:13
bitsparkhi14:14
tomixxx3hi, i have ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, what package do i need if i want to use "inet dhcp" in "interfaces" file?14:14
BPSTravisThat's defalt behavior??14:16
tomixxx3i have uninstalled the network manager14:16
BPSTraviswell why did you do that :P14:16
tomixxx3long story ;)14:16
BPSTravishttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=network-manager14:17
BPSTravis:)14:17
ActionPa1sniptomixxx3: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces    will give write access to the file14:17
tomixxx3BPSTravis: ty14:17
BPSTravistomixxx3 NP14:17
stepjohnHi, just wondering if you can help ,me. When i try to install skype or steam (both 32 bit) on my 64 bit system it fails with dep errors. So I tracked down the problem. Basically if I try to install libxcb1:i386 it tries to remove half my system. I'm running 13.10.14:17
stepjohnJust wondering if this is just my system being strange or if there is a problem with that package.14:18
ActionPa1snipstepjohn: run:  sudo apt-get -f install14:18
SwedeMikestepjohn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System   option 1 is probably what you want to do14:18
stepjohnActionPa1snip: my system is in a consistent state so install -f doesn't do anything14:19
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stepjohnSwedeMike: 13.10 doesn't have the ia32-libs14:20
SwedeMikestepjohn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182653 solves your problem?14:21
ActionPa1snipstepjohn: then your packages are fine and the deps for skype and steam are satisfied14:22
bitsparkhi i am using ubuntu 12.04 when i try to install firm ware for linux kernal driver it show error with mismatch drver files exit14:24
ActionPa1snipbitspark: how are you trying to install the firmware?14:25
stepjohnActionPa1snip: SwedeMike http://pastebin.com/fJCtkX0H14:25
bitsparki just tried from update center14:25
ActionPa1snipstepjohn: try grabbing the deb from skype.com14:26
SwedeMikestepjohn: did you follow the guides I pasted for you BEFORE you try to install skype?14:26
stepjohnActionPa1snip: Tried the deb from skype, I also have the same problem with steam14:27
SwedeMikestepjohn: after adding i386, did you do update/dist-upgrade ? or added the repo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse" as stated in the last guide, and then installed ia32-libs ?14:29
SwedeMikeI don't have 64bit 13.10 box available, so I can't test myself.14:29
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stepjohnSwedeMike: yep, did an update and dist-upgrade , adding the last releases repo to get the ia-32 package isn't the correct fix. The problem seems to be that some i32 bit package want to remove 1/2 my system when they are installed14:31
cypher-neostepjohn: ia32-libs? You doing some Google development?14:32
z1hazeeeek, can someone please help me out, im not so great with linux, etc.. but i think i accidently changed some permissions for the '/' directory by mistake.. i was doing a chown -R for a directory but by mistake i hit enter at / instead of typing in my full directory14:33
shafoxgrunt dist doesnt import css files in EAK.14:33
stepjohnz1haze: that's not an easy fix at all14:34
z1hazeshit, well what do i do14:34
shafoxreinstall14:34
z1hazewhatt?14:34
bitsparkreinstall14:34
shafoxrecover if you can14:34
stepjohnz1haze: Have you got a back up of the / filesystem that you can use to compare permissions with14:34
Piciz1haze: what exact command did you use?14:35
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z1hazei typed this14:35
z1haze1 sec14:35
z1hazeill pull the history14:35
z1hazesudo chown -R minecraft:mcserver /14:35
Piciz1haze: In most cases this requires a reinstall, but there are some things that you could have typed that would make it 'somewhat' easy to recover14:35
z1hazei caneledd it like immdiately14:35
PiciThat is not one of those easy commands14:35
z1hazeitdidnt get that far14:36
stepjohnz1haze: that's not that bad14:36
stepjohnz1haze: do a ls -lh /14:36
z1hazethank u!14:36
stepjohnz1haze: is everything owned by minecraft14:36
z1hazeyep14:36
z1hazeno14:36
z1hazewait14:36
z1hazemost is14:36
z1hazedo i just do the same thing and put it back root:root?14:36
stepjohnz1haze: noooo14:37
z1hazeok14:37
stepjohnz1haze: not everything is owned by root14:37
z1hazeok ill do whatever it takes14:37
z1hazetherse not many things on this server14:37
z1hazetheres a lot of data, but most of it is by 1 user14:37
stepjohnz1haze: what you need to do is figure out what dirs got changes14:37
stepjohnz1haze: what dirs got changed14:38
stepjohnz1haze: hopefully not etc and bin14:38
z1hazeyea14:38
z1hazethats the first one14:38
bitsparki have a problem with linux firmware install14:39
bitsparkusing ubuntu 12.0414:39
z1hazehttp://imageshack.com/a/img203/1758/5d7b.png stepjohn14:39
stepjohnz1haze: on everything in /bin and the bin dir itself need to be root:root14:39
z1hazesudo chown -R root:root /bin ?14:40
stepjohnz1haze: eekk you toasted everything14:40
z1hazei cancelled it quick14:40
mocaraz1haze, 1 do not exit that root shell you have14:40
z1hazebut i guess its faster than my responses14:40
z1hazeok i wont14:40
mocaraz1haze, 2 try to find another box with the same distro.14:41
mocaraYou could record the perms on a directory from it and then apply them on the other box.14:41
z1hazei dont really know what im doing :( kinda panicing14:41
hitsujiTMO!details | bitspark14:41
ubottubitspark: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:41
mocaraWhat time of box is it? Where is it hosted? Cloud or physical?14:41
z1hazestepjohn should i start first by doing the ownership of /bin14:41
stepjohnyep /bin and /root need to be root:root14:41
z1hazei dunno14:42
z1hazeok let me do that14:42
z1hazesudo chown -R root:root /bin ?14:42
z1hazei wanna be sure14:42
stepjohnz1haze: chown -R root:root  /bin /root14:42
mocaraAnd watch out for spaces! :P14:42
* mocara wonders if it is too soon14:42
z1hazeim copy and pasing14:42
z1hazeeh im fk'd14:43
z1hazei dont have the root password i only had sudo14:43
z1hazeand it wont let me sudo now14:43
mocarashit bricks.14:43
stepjohnz1haze: eeeeek14:43
mocaraOkay, so where is this machine and what type is it?14:43
mocaraThere are still possible solutions14:43
z1hazeok14:43
stepjohnz1haze: can you get console access14:44
z1hazethe machine is from a friend14:44
z1hazeyea im in ssh right now14:44
mocaraDo you know where it is hosted?14:44
tux_fanhi all. the netiquette of bugreport filing tells me to update my firmware before filling in a bugreport. so how do i update the firmware of my netXtreme card reader ?14:44
stepjohnz1haze: I mean can you get access to the actually keyboard and video output. VNC etc14:44
mocaraIf it's a cloud box you could bring another up and move it across.14:44
z1hazeno14:44
z1hazei dont its phsyical14:44
z1hazecause its been moved14:44
z1hazelike we've aded more ram to it, etc14:45
stepjohnz1haze: if you give me the ip I can find out who it's hosted wit14:45
stepjohnh14:45
mocarawas about to ask the same thing in private :)14:45
z1hazetalking to the owner now14:46
mocaracool14:46
stepjohnz1haze: Id start backing up all the vital data asap. As the easiest solution is to do a reinstall.14:47
stepjohnz1haze: Otherwise you need to get root on the machine and chown the dirs and files to the correct permissions14:47
racer0940anyone else just get a ping from YoLtA?14:47
z1hazeill ask him14:47
stepjohnz1haze: Sudo doesn't work as its setuid and the file is now owned by the incorrect user14:48
z1hazewell im the user14:48
z1hazeso thats weird14:48
stepjohnz1haze: /usr/bin/sudo should be owned by root14:49
stepjohnz1haze: I'm guessing it's now owned by minecraft.14:49
stepjohnz1haze: That means you can sudo anymore14:49
stepjohnz1haze: cant*14:49
z1hazeyea14:50
z1hazemakes since14:50
z1hazesense*14:50
z1hazewell talkign to the guy now, gonna try to get root, if he even knows it14:50
z1hazeif we get root, will that help14:50
stepjohnz1haze: sure14:50
z1hazei also mentioned to lfind another box with that setup14:50
somsipracer0940: this has been happening on and off for a few days. The ops are aware, but you can nudge them in #ubuntu-ops if you want to14:50
racer0940that's fine, I was just curious if it was spam to a large amount of people14:51
z1hazeok we're in root14:52
z1hazei told him chown -R root:root  /bin /root first14:52
diego_1hello14:52
stepjohnz1haze: then chown root:root /sbin && chown root:shadow /sbin/unix_chkpwd14:53
z1hazek relaying the info14:53
stepjohnz1haze: then chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo14:53
stepjohnz1haze: after that you should be able to sudo14:53
z1hazethen we try to fix the little issues? lol14:54
z1hazeor should that do it14:54
SaraHi all, I have a quick question. I have a broadcom wifi card on my desktop and it is the only way I can connect to the internet. I am trying to use b43-cutter to install the wl_prebuilt.o but It prints cannot open input file14:54
stepjohnz1haze: that's fixed enough so you can login14:54
z1hazewell one main thing i noticed14:54
z1hazemysql was all messed up it seemed14:55
z1hazenothing could connect to the dtabases14:55
stepjohnz1haze: yep it needs alot more fixing on it14:55
trijntjeis it possible to use the software center option 'sync between computers' to restore installed programs after a reinstall?14:55
z1hazek ill post once hes changes everything u said14:55
z1hazeok all folders changed14:56
stepjohnz1haze: can you sudo now?14:57
z1hazehmm no do i need to restart?14:57
stepjohnz1haze: do not restart that machine14:57
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stepjohnz1haze: you restart it, it may never reboot14:57
z1hazeno i meant my console14:57
stepjohnz1haze: no it should work14:58
z1hazethen icant sudo14:58
Busybyeskihow can i hook-in lightning or some other calendar into the toolbar's calendar?14:58
z1hazethen chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo14:58
z1hazeoops my bad14:58
z1hazehttp://pastebin.com/CpthpbXc14:58
stepjohnz1haze: chown root:root /etc/sudo* -R14:59
stepjohnz1haze: then try to sudo again15:00
TJ-I have an upstart job stuck in "stop/killed" state (ureadhead-other), with init (pid 1) still holding an open log-file for the job, which I need closing (the log-file is inside a chroot that needs umount-ing). The job process no longer exists. Any suggestions on how to proceed?15:01
stepjohnTJ-: you can do a lsof | grep path to log file to find out what has it open15:02
z1hazestepjohn he did that too but i cant sudo15:02
stepjohnTJ-: for example lsof | grep /var/log/dmesg15:02
sarah34Anybody there ? I mean anybody helpful ?15:03
sarah34I have question15:03
stepjohnsarah34: sure15:03
z1hazeoh there is no sudo15:03
z1hazesudoers?15:03
TJ-stepjohn: That won't help. I need a way to persuade init to close the log-file for a job it has stopped15:03
stepjohnTJ-: does init have the log file open15:04
ActionPa1snipz1haze: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:04
stepjohnTJ-: it will tell you the pid of the process that has it open15:04
z1hazecan i do that from anywhere?15:04
sarah34I'm watching online movies they're free movies serials but no way to download them and I want to ask is there some script I could put link to the video and link to down load would come out ? Or some web that convert links to download link ?15:04
ActionPa1snipz1haze: yes15:04
z1hazecat /etc/issue15:05
z1hazeUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l15:05
sarah34Any advice ?15:05
TJ-stepjohn: I *know* the pid, it's 1! I'm asking how to persuade init to close that file now the upstart job has stopped15:05
ActionPa1snipsarah34: do you watch them in a web browser?15:05
z1hazeActionPa1snip: cat /etc/issue15:06
z1hazeUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l15:06
z1hazejust puts that15:06
ActionPa1snipz1haze: i saw15:07
z1hazemm15:07
stepjohnTJ-: I can't see why upstart would have any log file open15:07
ActionPa1snipz1haze: ubuntu uses sudo for admin tasks so if you dont have sudo you are pretty screwed15:07
ActionPa1snipz1haze: what is the output of:  which sudo15:07
z1hazethat's what were trying to fix15:07
stepjohnActionPa1snip: He has messed up file perms on / root15:08
z1hazeits /usr/bin/sudo15:08
ActionPa1snipstepjohn: oh jesus15:08
stepjohnActionPa1snip: yep chown -R15:08
ActionPa1snipz1haze: ok and the output of:  echo $PATH15:08
z1hazewe fixed some of it already15:08
stepjohnz1haze: we have fix 1/10015:08
stepjohnbin sbin and /root15:08
z1haze./usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games15:08
sarah34ActionPa1snip yes15:09
sarah34I watch them in the browseer15:09
stepjohnthe perms on sudo and /etc/sudo* are correct15:09
ActionPa1snipsarah34: there are various downloader addons and extensions for web browsers, try a few15:09
stepjohnz1haze: is there anyhing in /var/log/auth about the sudo15:09
JustSomeGuyhi can i tell dconf-editor to change another file than ~/.config/dconf/user?15:09
stepjohnz1haze: I'm betting that pam is messed up15:10
ActionPa1snipz1haze: what is the output of:  ls -la /etc/sudo*15:10
TJ-stepjohn: You should try "sudo ls -l /proc/1/fd/" - upstart manages log-files on behalf of some processes15:10
sarah34Action ok15:10
z1hazeno such file or directory15:10
ActionPa1snipz1haze: use a pastebin to host the output15:10
z1hazei have sudoers15:10
stepjohnTJ-: on my system it has two open15:10
z1hazels -la /etc/sudo15:11
z1hazels: cannot access /etc/sudo: No such file or directory15:11
stepjohnz1haze: ls -ls /etc/sudoers && ls -ls /etc/sudoers.d/15:11
ActionPa1snipz1haze: then you will need to drop to root recovery mode and recreate the file and / or check permissions as root15:11
stepjohnActionPa1snip: He has a friend with a root shell open15:12
TJ-stepjohn: Yeah. And it seems like there is no way to make it close even unlinked files, and as init can't be restarted there's no easy way to make it drop the fd15:12
stepjohnActionPa1snip: So we are trying to get enough working to get him sodo15:12
ActionPa1snipz1haze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#The_Default_Ubuntu_Sudoers_File   is the default ubuntu sudoers file15:12
ActionPa1snipstepjohn: ^15:12
stepjohnActionPa1snip: the sudo config was working until he ran the chown15:12
stepjohnActionPa1snip: so it's a file perm issue15:13
z1hazei have the auth.log but its too large15:13
helo_hello15:13
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z1haze4 -r--r----- 1 root root 723 Jan 31  2012 /etc/sudoers15:13
z1hazetotal 415:13
z1haze4 -r--r----- 1 root root 753 Jan 31  2012 README15:13
ActionPa1snipstepjohn: then copy your own to his. I'd just reinstall15:13
ActionPa1snipz1haze: why were you chowning this stuff anyway?15:14
z1hazei didnt mean to15:14
stepjohnActionPa1snip: he did / instead of /15:14
stepjohnActionPa1snip: he did / instead of ./15:14
ActionPa1snipohhh15:14
hitsujiTMOz1haze: ls -la /usr/bin/sudo15:14
stepjohnhitsujiTMO: its root:root15:14
z1hazeyes root root15:14
stepjohnz1haze: look at the bottom of /var/log/auth.log,15:15
stepjohnz1haze: is there an error with something about sudo or pam15:15
hitsujiTMOz1haze: and its rws on u?15:15
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z1hazetheres a lot o those i think let me upload the whole file15:15
stepjohnhitsujiTMO: he only do chown not a chmod15:15
stepjohnhitsujiTMO: do / did15:16
z1hazehttp://backconnect.net/auth.log15:16
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Guest4507Can anyone offer any advice for moving & resizing a partition? I have a 2TiB drive which used to have a Windows boot partition on it, and an existing and in use EXT4 partition after. I deleted the Windows partitions, but can't resize or move the existing EXT4 partition. Here's what I tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909605/15:17
z1hazeu see the post of the auth.log file15:17
z1hazethe owner said he'll do whatever15:17
stepjohnz1haze: looking now15:17
z1hazebut i dont wanna reformat if dont have to15:17
stepjohnz1haze: to be ownest, to fix this is going to take longer than just to format and reinstall15:17
z1hazebut what about all of the info15:18
z1hazewe have tons of info15:18
stepjohnz1haze: back it up15:18
stepjohnz1haze: df -lh15:18
compdocGuest4507, have you tried booting gparted?15:18
z1hazeso we cant fix it?15:18
stepjohnz1haze: how big is the hd15:18
JustSomeGuyis there no way to configure unity via an xml file?15:18
hitsujiTMOz1haze: another thing? have you enabled the root user, and have you got password auth over ssh enabled?15:18
z1hazeyea root user works15:19
stepjohnhitsujiTMO: He has a friend already logged in as root15:19
stepjohnhitsujiTMO: using ssh15:19
stepjohnz1haze: id just backup everything from the machine15:19
stepjohnz1haze: do a reinstall and copy the stuff back15:19
hitsujiTMOz1haze: ok, someone is trying to brute force your password for that account15:19
z1hazewhat do u mean15:20
Guest4507compdoc: I am pretty sure gparted can do it, but I was hoping no to bring down the system, other aspects are currently in use and this process will take hours. Is there no CLI based solution?15:20
compdocGuest4507, I think the words "aspects are currently in use' thats causing the problem15:20
trijntjeGuest4507: there is no way to modify partitions while they are in use, and its not wise to change partitions without a full backup15:20
hitsujiTMOz1haze: the ip 114.80.246.146 is trying to gain access to your machine by guessing your root password. so if you get it back up and running, disable your root user and use key auth, and disable password auth15:21
Guest4507compdoc: Other drives are in use performing other services, the drive in question is inactive/NOT mounted15:21
stepjohnhitsujiTMO: or use fail2ban15:21
TJ-z1haze: I've fixed such problems in the past where clients have done similar, by doing a clean install of the exact same version into a virtual machine image, then stopping the VM, loop-mounting it's file-system locally, and then running an iterative script on it that copies the permissions of each directory and file from the loopmount to the corrupted target. That has to have root access of course.15:21
Guest4507trijntje: Other drives are in use performing other services, the drive in question is inactive/NOT mounted15:21
hitsujiTMOstepjohn: thats not good enough when he's using really bad security practices15:22
z1hazetj.. im sory but i dont know anything about that15:22
wotan147how to fix virtuoso-t crashing after 15 min session ?15:22
Guest4507compdoc: trijntje: a partition move for a 2tb volume can easily take an entire day15:22
z1hazehow do u know the ip 114.80.246.146 is trying to attack?15:22
hitsujiTMOz1haze: your auth.log15:23
Guest4507compdoc: trijntje: the drive referenced is not mounted or in use in any way, but other drives and services on the machine are still running15:23
compdocpossibly so, although you could just remove the drive and attach it to a less used system15:23
TJ-z1haze: The essence of your issue is to return the permissions to what they should be. Therefore you need a template which you can use to determine the correct permissions. That's one way to do it. Another way is to use a Live ISO image file-system15:23
hitsujiTMOz1haze: and its not the only one15:24
Guest4507compdoc: so there is no way to move/resize ext4 in a non-gui linux? I'm blown away by that...15:24
trijntjeGuest4507: so nothing on that harddisk is in use?15:24
z1hazeyea a template15:24
Guest4507trijntje: nothing at all15:24
z1hazewhere can i get a template15:24
compdocGuest4507, if it wont let you, it is in use15:24
trijntjeGuest4507: so all active stuf is running from another physical harddrive?15:24
compdocif it werent in use, it would let you15:24
TJ-z1haze: As well as a clean install into a VM, the squashfs file-system of the equivilent Live ISO would do15:25
andybrinehas anyone had a problem with the keyboard layout on 13.10? Everytime i change it, it goes back to the original15:25
andybrinethe @ and " symbols are around the wrong way15:25
stepjohnz1haze: to find out the number of incorrectly owned file permission run find / -user minecraft | wc -l15:25
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stepjohnz1haze: there will literally be thousand15:25
z1hazehitsujiTMO is that typical?15:25
Guest4507trijntje: Correct, I am trying to make changes to /dev/sdl which is not mounted or in use in any way.15:25
z1hazeok i hve a list15:26
hitsujiTMOz1haze: yes, thats why you DO NOT enable the root user, and why you use key auth instead of password auth15:26
z1hazebunch of permission denied15:26
Guest4507compdoc: it isn't that simple. the drive isn't in use... it is not mounted or a member of any other structure15:26
Meerkatwhere can I download 14.04?15:27
TJ-z1haze: what user account name are you logged into that system as? Is it not "minecraft" ?15:27
z1hazeyes15:27
z1hazeit is15:27
trijntjeGuest4507: can't you just install gparted on the running system and use that? I don't have experience with using command line to move partitions, though I'm sure its possible15:27
hitsujiTMOMeerkat: #ubuntu+1 for anything trusty related http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/15:28
compdocGuest4507, sorry, I dont remember, what program are you using to resize?15:28
Meerkatthanks.15:28
andybrinekeyboard layout on 13.10 is really shocking15:28
Guest4507trijntje: the running system is Ubuntu Server and doesn't have any of the packages for a GUI or X window system15:28
Guest4507compdoc: parted15:28
andybrineI thought ubuntu was supposed to get better after each release. I cant see this happening right now.15:29
z1hazehey guys is it possible to like reinstall keeping all files and just fixing the permissions?15:29
Guest4507compdoc: But I am open to use something else if it is stable and can do move/resize15:29
ikoniaandybrine: what is the keyboard layout you are setting it to ?15:29
stepjohnz1haze: how big is the hd15:29
stepjohnz1haze: df -lh15:29
TJ-z1haze: Is the machine accessible via a (remote) console, either directly by local keyboard, or over a network KVM ?15:29
z1hazeyea the owner can do it15:30
z1hazeits 500gb15:30
andybrineI had it set on a UK keyboard which worked fine until I do a reboot, then all the keys are wrong15:30
stepjohnz1haze: how much is used15:30
ikoniaandybrine: ok - so is this a standard UK keyboard ?15:30
z1haze130gb avil15:30
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stepjohnz1haze: ok you could back it all up somewhere then do a reinstall15:30
andybrineits acutally a laptop keyboard15:30
trijntjeandybrine: how do you set it?15:30
ikoniaandybrine: ok, but a standard UK layout ?15:30
andybrineyeah standard layout15:31
stepjohnz1haze: you can do a reinstall without formating but that is risky15:31
TJ-z1haze: Well then I'd recommend the owner restarts using a live ISO image from DVD or USB, mounts the affected file-systems, and corrects the permissions using the procedure I outlined earlier. That's the best/safest/most accurate way to fix it15:31
ikoniaandybrine: ok, so in the top right of the title bar, what does it show your keyboard layout as ?15:31
andybrineEnglish (Uk)15:31
ikoniaandybrine: and is your keyboard as you expect ?15:31
stepjohnz1haze: or backup the data you require, reinstall and copy the data back15:32
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andybrineWell it is now as I have had to reselect that keyboard15:32
shreezbotls15:32
shreezbotlol15:32
TJ-andybrine: Are there multiple users of the PC using different log-ins, each using different keyboard layouts?15:32
andybrineno, its just  me15:32
z1hazetj where is the instructions ill copy paste to him15:32
ikoniaandybrine: if you click on the en uk option on the title bar are there any other seletions available, or just en uk ?15:33
shreezbotIs there a better SSH client for debian than Xterm?15:33
ikoniasorry English UK15:33
ikoniashreezbot: xterm isn't a client15:33
andybrineno, its just english uk15:33
TJ-andybrine: Have you removed the US English keyboard layout from the available list?15:33
ikoniashreezbot: ask in #debian15:33
ikoniaandybrine: ok, so when it's not using UK - what are the options ?15:33
andybrineUS Keyboard has completely gone15:33
shreezbotikonia, if it isn't a client, what is it?15:33
andybrineonly one in the options15:33
ikoniashreezbot: a terminal emmulator15:33
TJ-z1haze: I don't think copy-paste is going to work with such a case, even for an expert there's a lot to do. He needs an expert with hands-on.15:34
ikoniaandybrine: when you reboot does it set to UK15:34
ikoniaor USA ?15:34
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weisshello! I have some problem wit wifi on newly installed ubuntu 13.10. It recognizes home network, sometimes it connects, but it disconnects after a few seconds. I must use ethernet cable for net on laptop15:34
andybrineIt shows that its a UK Keyboard15:34
ikoniaandybrine: but it's not ?15:34
z1hazethe kids a brain, hes like 18 and owns 2 companies, hes at the data center now so i think the server is actually with him15:34
shreezbotikonia, How does that make it not a client?  I'm confused?  In the client/server relationship xterm seems like it would certainly be a client...15:34
andybrineno its not, the " and the @ signs are round the worng way15:35
TJ-andybrine: Are the # and | switched, too?15:35
andybrineyeah, they are all switched15:35
TJ-andybrine: OK, so that really confirms it is switching to US layout15:36
andybrineits strange having removed all the othe keyboads15:36
andybrineyeah15:36
Adminatorjust installed ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso in Virtualbox, created a user and pwd during install, and now Update Manager authentication fails using said pwd15:36
Adminatorany ideas besides memory lapse?15:36
TJ-andybrine: Do you switch to another TTY and back to the GUI when this happens? Or can you associate it with running/closing some GUI application?15:37
weisshello! I have some problem wit wifi on newly installed ubuntu 13.10. It recognizes home network, sometimes it connects, but it disconnects after a few seconds. I must use ethernet cable for net on laptop. Any tests I could do?15:38
DJonesandybrine: A few people have had the same issue, UK keyboard changing to US keyboard in the last month or so, I had to change to US keyboard, then change back to UK keyboard using the keyboard/language selecter, that solved the issue for me15:38
andybrineIm not 100% sure when it changes, at times its actually as im working15:38
z1hazeok everyone thanks for all ur help and attempts15:38
andybrinecan be very frustrating at times15:38
z1hazehe said when he gets back to the office he'll reformat the box :\15:38
LumberJackTeamhow can i change the apps bar to the right side?15:39
DJonesandybrine: There a couple of different solutions mentioned here http://askubuntu.com/questions/367209/keyboard-layout-changing-from-uk-to-us-not-showing-as-changed-in-settings15:39
andybrinethank, I will have a look15:39
andybrinehere is a pastebin15:40
andybrinehttp://tinypic.com/r/30a9frp/815:40
andybrineits very simple and doesnt show a lot though15:40
LumberJackTeamhow can i change the apps bar to the right side of the screen?15:40
she_dyedno need to repeat15:40
LumberJackTeami need to repeat since there no anser15:41
andybrineso its as simple as restarting lightdm?15:41
sarah34I have question is there command or some script I could use I want to use in terminal to convert web address where is online video clip mp415:41
andybrinethat does not sound right for some reason :s15:41
sarah34I want to paste that link and want that script to convert it to ndownload link15:41
DJonesandybrine: I just did the switch to US then back to UK, I never tried the restarting lightdm15:41
sarah34Is there any thing like that ???15:42
sarah34I want to use terminal instead anything else15:42
andybrineok, I will give that a shot15:42
andybrinethanks for your help everyone15:42
sarah34Is there any kind of script command I could use?15:42
andybrinedoes anyone know when the next release is out?15:42
LumberJackTeamhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher15:43
ikoniaandybrine: you still there ?15:43
sarah34I use wget to download files and need something else that would yelp nme convert web link to video link15:43
ActionPa1snipsarah34: youtube-dl is available15:43
andybrineyeah, im still here.15:43
LumberJackTeamthank you very much for nothing15:43
ikoniashreezbot: it makes it not a client, because it's a terminal emmulator, the client is the openssh client15:43
sarah34Nooooooo15:43
ikoniaandybrine: what's the little red apple on your desktop ?15:43
sarah34I want to do it in terminal15:43
ikoniaandybrine: is that a theme of some sort ?15:43
ActionPa1snipsarah34: yes, youtube-dl IS a bash script.15:43
andybrineyeah, I use the apple theme15:44
sarah34It wil15:44
hitsujiTMOActionPa1snip: python script15:44
sarah34 Download only fro. Youtube right ?15:44
andybrineim not a fan of apply but like the look of it15:44
ikoniaandybrine: I'll put money that's causing the problem, the apple theme has caused LOADS of problems with the desktop experience15:44
MauriceHello there, does someone use Claws Mail? I've a basic problem during installation (ppa)15:44
trijntjeLumberJackTeam: patience. What version of ubuntu are you using?15:44
FiremanEd!patience | LumberJackTeam15:44
ubottuLumberJackTeam: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/15:44
ActionPa1sniphitsujiTMO: ok ok ;P15:44
ikoniaandybrine: themes like macbuntu for example got zero support for that reason, it's quite common with most of the mac themes.15:44
hitsujiTMOActionPa1snip: :)15:44
andybrineok, thanks ikonia. I will change the theme for a while15:44
ActionPa1snipsarah34: no idea, I dont bother downloading videos as I always have a web connection15:44
aaron_hi when i try to connect to the internet it says its unreachable ?15:44
LumberJackTeampatient ive asked this question 2 hours ago15:45
ikoniaandybrine: (that doesn't mean it's the theme, fact, it means its a good possibility)15:45
andybrinethats a shame. I dont mind removing it though :)15:45
shreezbotikonia, So the terminal emulator is invoking the openssh client in the background?15:45
andybrineyeah, i know what you mean15:45
aaron_but i can connect to this irc?15:45
ikoniashreezbot: not in the background, in the foreground.15:45
trijntjeLumberJackTeam: the simple answer is that since 12.04, there is no official way to change the position of the bar15:45
sarah34Not everyone was born in developed country ActionPa I'm from the UK15:45
andybrineIs it prob best removing the whole theme or would you suggest just changing the theme?15:46
TJ-hitsujiTMO: Any ideas on how I might persuade upstart's init (pid 1) to close a log-file it has open on a chroot mount file-system that has become inaccessible after a suspend/resume? The upstart job itself has been stopped. I have to avoid a system reboot15:46
sarah34Need some script that would convert web address to video download link15:46
ActionPa1snipsarah34: I'm in the UK too15:46
sarah34You're in some better part or something15:46
sarah34Maybe scoytland15:46
sarah34I'm from London15:46
hitsujiTMOTJ-: ooh, soryy no ideas there mate15:46
LumberJackTeamso much for user freedom15:47
shreezbotikonia, AHHH!  I think i understand now...  I'm opening up Xterm and issuing the 'ssh' command to connect to another server.  That is the openssh client that I'm invoking to connect to another server...  I'm kinda dense sometimes.  Thanks for helping me understand that...15:47
olanyone has experience with online cfree shell?15:47
ikoniaandybrine: I'd get rid of it all, the history is it modifies/changes files that it really shouldn't to get some of the visuals to work15:47
trijntjeLumberJackTeam: yeah, it like communist russia here, sorry about that15:47
LumberJackTeami dont like apple and ubuntu is just an apple wannbe15:47
ActionPa1snipLumberJackTeam: not really15:47
ikoniaLumberJackTeam: enough, ask for help / wait for answer, snide comments are not welcoe or required.15:47
ikoniawelcome15:48
andybrineyeah, i do remember making quite a few changes15:48
stepjohnLumberJackTeam: If you don't like unity use Xubuntu that's what I'm using15:48
andybrinethat may solve other issues as well15:48
LumberJackTeamim going to change using that ppa15:48
LumberJackTeamso there15:48
ikoniaandybrine: they are (as a general rule of thumb) a real problem, and cause a lot of problems15:48
andybrinethanks really ppreciate it15:48
ActionPa1snipLumberJackTeam: what ppa?15:48
racer0940is vsftpd pretty much the go to ftp server for linux?15:48
LumberJackTeamhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher15:48
ActionPa1snipLumberJackTeam: it's known to break things15:49
shreezbotikonia, Is there a terminal emulator that you recommend more than Xterm for Ubuntu?  Xterm is kinda a pain...  I haven't learned how to use screen very well yet...15:49
hitsujiTMOLumberJackTeam: that only works pre 12.0415:49
andybrineive not been happy with 13.10 sinse release and hopefully this will fix a lot of niggling issues15:49
she_dyedbut you get to keep the pieces...15:49
ActionPa1snipLumberJackTeam: I suggest you install a more customizable dock, then disable the unity plugin in ccsm (or similar)15:49
ikoniashreezbot: in what way is it a pain ?15:49
shreezbotikonia, I can't have multiple ssh connections for instance...15:49
ikoniashreezbot: ubuntu's default terminal is not xterm.15:49
ActionPa1snipshreezbot: sure you can15:49
ActionPa1snipikonia: its default installed15:50
ikoniaActionPa1snip: it's not the default terminal though15:50
olwhat is the difference between UNIX, linux, BSD, ubuntu, fedora ?15:50
shreezbotikonia, Well, I don't like the default terminal either, because you can't scroll15:50
LumberJackTeambesides you use the mouse on the lft side of the computer and it just feels closer to the left side of the screen15:50
ikoniashreezbot: you can in the default one.15:50
hitsujiTMOshreezbot: gnome-terminal ( the default in ubuntu ) is actually one of the best terminals out there15:50
LumberJackTeami mean right side15:50
shreezbothitsujiTMO, It would be amazing if I could scroll in it...15:51
ActionPa1snipi use guake :)15:51
LumberJackTeamif you are left handed you might like the launcher on the left side15:51
shreezbothitsujiTMO, For some reason it won't allow it...15:51
Mauriceis it normal to find a "ain" problem in line 3 in claws-mail-ppa-precise-list ?15:51
ActionPa1snipMaurice: should read 'main'15:51
hitsujiTMOshreezbot: in the menu -> profile preferences -> scrolling15:51
TJ-shreezbot: Use Shift+PageUp, Shift+PageDn15:51
LumberJackTeamanother nice feature would be the option to autohide the launcher15:52
ActionPa1snipMaurice: I'd contact the PPA maintainer to let them know15:52
ActionPa1snipLumberJackTeam: it is an option15:52
LumberJackTeamfor people with small screens15:52
ActionPa1snipLumberJackTeam: again, it is an option15:52
Mauriceyes ActionPa1snip  I agree I removed it and it worked but it's weird that it's from their source server15:52
hitsujiTMOshreezbot: or right click in the terminal -> profile -> profile preferences -> scrolling15:52
ActionPa1snipMaurice: its a PPA, maintanined by Joe Somebody on the web. Nothing more15:52
trijntjeLumberJackTeam: it is possible to auto-hide the launcer, or to modify the size of the icons, via system settings15:53
hitsujiTMOshreezbot: wait you mentioned screen, are you in screen now?15:53
shreezbothitsujiTMO, That got it!  I can't beliefe I missed that...15:53
shreezbothitsujiTMO, No, I'm not in screen now15:53
MauriceActionPalsnip don't deny their good work thought ;)15:53
hitsujiTMOshreezbot: screen removes the ability to scroll, it has its own internal scrolling functions15:54
hggdhI would suggest tmux in lieu of screen, and byobu as the wrapper15:54
LumberJackTeamdoes ubuntu have a netinst iso?15:54
hitsujiTMO!Minimal | LumberJackTeam15:54
ubottuLumberJackTeam: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:54
shreezbothitsujiTMO, Ah, ok then...  Now that I'm using the default emulator, I can just use multiple sessions...15:54
zerowaitstateI have a 3TB external drive that was formatted by Windows, but gdisk is showing the last partition table overlaps the last partition by a huge amount. has anyone seen this before?15:54
shreezbotThanks for the help guys!  Now to go figure out how to disable passwords and allow all my devices to connect via SSH!!!  :D15:55
hitsujiTMOzerowaitstate: can you pastebin the output of: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdX15:55
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ActionPa1snipshreezbot: not too hard15:56
shreezbotActionPa1snip, Yea, it doesn't look too hard from the tutorials I'm seeing.  I think the hardest part is going to be to get the ssh key to my devices.  :)15:56
andybrinenow that I have removed the macbuntu theme, can anyone recomend another good looking theme?15:57
ikoniaandybrine: ahh you where actually using macbuntu15:57
zerowaitstatehitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/pq87JfQD15:57
ikoniaandybrine: in that case, I'd bet money that was a problem,15:57
andybrinelol yeah15:57
andybrineits gone forever now15:57
andybrinemac seems to cause problems all over the place :15:57
andybrine:P15:58
ActionPa1snipshreezbot: keep 2 connections to the box, so if the key fails you arent stuck15:58
ikoniaandybrine: that theme is just a huge problem/mess, there should be more warnings about it15:58
andybrineyeah, im glad you told me as I would of kept using it without knowing a thing15:58
hitsujiTMOzerowaitstate: can you also pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc15:58
andybrineit does look good though15:58
andybrinelol15:59
shreezbotActionPa1snip, That's something I'll have to figure out how to do...  :)15:59
shreezbotActionPa1snip, My security right now consists of forwarding an obsure port number to SSH and having an insanely stupidly long password...  :)16:00
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zerowaitstatehitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/d86K8sfQ new stuff appended to bottom16:00
andybrinebefore I install another theme, Are there any other themes with known issues?16:00
autojavhello. I installed ubuntu on my laptop and I got a strange bug: on my java ide ctrl + z don't work but in same version on lubuntu works. can you help me? sorry for my bad english16:00
ActionPa1snipshreezbot: thats cool16:02
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hitsujiTMOzerowaitstate: looks like someone dd'd the disk from a 3tb drive to a 750mb drive16:02
ActionPa1snipautojav: are there any bugs reported?16:02
hitsujiTMOzerowaitstate: looks like someone dd'd the disk from a 3tb drive to a 750gb drive even16:02
autojavActionPa1snip: I don't know, my ide is bluej16:02
ActionPa1snipautojav: check on launchpad for bug reports, if you dont find one report one16:03
weissGuys, I would realy like to enable wireless to work on my newly installed ubuntu 13.10. please, help me16:03
hitsujiTMOzerowaitstate: so the partition table is that from a much larger hdd. you'll be missing much of the data that was on the original partition. best to wipe the partition table and create a propper one16:03
bitsparkhow to check ubuntu 12.04 is working properly16:06
ikoniause it16:06
bitsparkapps and system16:06
bitsparkit shows randomly some system error occured msg16:07
ikonianote down the errors and people will help fix them16:07
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jhutchinsbitspark: Read the errors and figure out what they're saying.16:10
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DuncanTHi. During an ooops, I get a line in the dmesg that says "Modules linked in:" followed by a list of modules. Some of them have (O) after some of the modules. Anybody know what that means? Thanks16:13
_kruxhas anyone been able to get multiseat working with a single dual-head nvidia video card?16:14
ikoniaDuncanT: need a lot more info16:14
ometzitHello everyone, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu because of modem issues, I upgraded to 12.04 and the wifi doesnt work, neither the wired connection. I already tried reinstalling the broadcom drivers but is useless, would it be easier just reinstall ubuntu from scratch?16:16
DuncanTikonia: What do you need? I've seen it in at least 4 oops, on several different kernels all on precise. I'm specifically wondering what the (O) means, not necessarily what the ooops itself is (I suspect that is in my code)16:17
ometzitHello everyone, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu because of modem issues, I upgraded to 12.04 and the wifi doesnt work, neither the wired connection. I already tried reinstalling the broadcom drivers but is useless, would it be easier just reinstall ubuntu from scratch?16:18
DuncanTikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909920/ for an example16:18
ActionPa1snipometzit: which broadcom do you have?16:18
ActionPa1snipometzit: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you16:19
ikoniaDuncanT: you'd need the lines above that16:19
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DuncanTikonia: The lines above that are standard dmesg doing it's normal thing... apparmour audit lines in this case16:21
TJ-DuncanT: "O" means an out-of-tree module is loaded16:21
DuncanTTJ-: That makes perfect sense, thanks16:22
TJ-DuncanT: For a fuller explanation of the symbols see the kernel's Documentation/oops-tracing.txt16:22
aguitelhow install propietaries driver for this :ATI Technologies Inc RV370 secondary [Sapphire X550 Silent] ?16:22
DuncanTTJ-: Much appreciated16:22
ActionPa1snipaguitel: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue16:22
jhutchins!ati16:22
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto16:22
aguitelActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS16:23
ometzitActionPa1snip: BCM431316:23
aguitelActionPa1snip, this is old pc16:23
ActionPa1snipaguitel: it is no longer supported on the desktop16:23
aguitelActionPa1snip, radeon does not working16:24
ActionPa1snipaguitel: I sugget you upgrade to Precise which you can do in one jump (lts to lts is fully supported)16:24
ActionPa1snipaguitel: your release is no longer supported on the desktop, only in server where the OS is pure CLI16:24
ActionPa1snipaguitel: try Lubuntu 12.04, it is light and airy16:24
jhutchinsometzit: Which release was working for you?16:24
Pinkamena_DI have a persistant wifi network that ubuntu always attempts to connect to after turning on wifi called 'attwifi'16:29
ometzitActionPa1snip: i don't remember hehehe based on the screenshots of the default wall paper in previous releases I would say it is 10.0416:29
Pinkamena_Dit is not in the list of known networks, how can I remove it?16:30
bazugwibber on ubuntu 12.04 for facebook not working16:30
bazuhot to fix it16:30
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Rory!details | bazu16:32
ubottubazu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:32
c2tarunHi, is there any application which can backup ubuntu data and can restore on Windows as well as Mac? (cross platform backup tool)16:32
kkkkkHI all, I burned a data DVD was having a file greater than 2gb , using K3B and this DVD is working properly in windows but not in Linux,  dvd spins and nothing happens, then i googled a bit and mounted it using sudo mount /dev/sro/ /cdrom and then DVD mounted in /cdrom, but why this is not happening automatically16:33
kkkkkfor UDF files16:33
RoryPinkamena_D: Can you please run the command "nmcli con"?16:33
RoryPinkamena_D: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel16:33
bazuubuntu 12.04.4 x64 and when i start gwibber and go to add account and try to add facebook account the error masage is this: App Not Setup: The developers of this app have not set up this app properly for Facebook Login.16:33
hitsujiTMOc2tarun: rsync16:33
ometzithow do I send a private message to keep easier track of a support conversation?16:34
Roryometzit: depends on your client, but usually "/msg username some text here"16:34
Rory!pm | ometzit however16:34
ubottuometzit however: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.16:34
Rorybazu: I googled "Ubuntu 12.04 gwibber facebook not working" and this was the first link http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/fix-facebook-not-working-with-gwibber.html16:34
Rorybazu: You're welcome16:34
bazurory i try that and doesnt work for me16:35
bazuaccount page not open when change the code16:35
ometzitok, or if I put the reply of a question here starting with the username will it be highligthed automatically for said user?16:35
kkkkkHI all, I burned a data DVD was having a file greater than 2gb , using K3B and this DVD is working properly in windows but not in Linux,  dvd spins and nothing happens, then i googled a bit and mounted it using sudo mount /dev/sro/ /cdrom and then DVD mounted in /cdrom, but why this is not happening automatically16:36
aguitelActionPa1snip, with lubuntu will be support with the vga card Sapphire X550 Silent?16:36
Rorybazu: Can you please install the "pastebinit" package using the command: "sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit" - then share the contents of the file in question with the command: "pastebinit /usr/share/gwibber/plugins/facebook/__init__.py"16:38
Rorybazu: That will give you a URL, which you should share in this channel16:38
ometzitActionPa1snip my previous version was 10.0416:38
Rorykkkkk: Do other CD's/DVD's mount automatically? Or does it affect every disk you try in the drive?16:39
bazurory sorry can you copy becouse i click on clean not ot copy :D16:39
Rorybazu: Sorry? Run the following command (the part after the colon) in a terminal:16:40
Rorysudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; pastebinit /usr/share/gwibber/plugins/facebook/__init__.py16:40
Roryerr there's no colon, just run that whole line ^16:40
she_dyedwith the pastbinit, i suppose...16:41
bazurory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910031/16:41
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Rorybazu: Did you run afterwards: "killall gwibber-service" and then "gwibber-service &"16:43
bazuyup16:44
Rorybazu: It looks like a bug was filed, and a later version has hit pre-release upgrades16:46
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ometzitshall I reask my question? I think ActionPa1snip is busy lol16:46
Rorybazu: enable the "Pre-releace updates (precise-proposed)" in Software Sources, then install the "gwibber-service-facebook" package, and then disable that repository again16:46
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bazuty16:46
Rorybazu: Comment #14 on this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/96253516:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 962535 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "Gwibber in Ubuntu 12.04 will not complete facebook authorisation" [Medium,Triaged]16:48
shareikonia: how can I destroy my Ubuntu partition16:48
bazurory you are nice man, thank you16:49
RoryNo problem, glad I could help :)16:49
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ometzitI'm having problems with my WiFi after updating to 12.04, I already attempted reinstalling the Broadcom (BCM4313) but it was useless, and after many changes I think it is easier to re install Ubuntu, there is a message saying that a partial installation must be attemped, however the update manager freezes16:53
ActionPa1snipometzit: try upgrading in terminal, bit easier and the output is useful16:54
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ometzitActionPa1snip upgrade ubunto from 12.04 to 13.10 you mean?16:56
ActionPa1snipometzit: no, and you'd need to upgrade to 12.10 first17:03
ActionPa1snipometzit: then to 13.04, then to 13.1017:03
ActionPa1snipometzit: in a terminal, run:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade     what is output?17:03
gravyandfrieshey guys, anyhone willing to assist me with finding info on how to host a server for free from my home computer? I have been looking but i am really new and just trying to find a platform to start on and build off of17:04
phescogoogle17:04
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daftykinsgravyandfries: what do you want to run from home?17:04
she_dyedits a bit extensive to cover here in chat17:04
gravyandfriesjust a small website that can transfer files for my family to share family photos17:04
gravyandfriesjust a link would be helpful17:05
gravyandfriesi can't find anything that is what i want17:05
ometzitActionPa1snip: 227 updated 0 to install 0 to remove and 15 no updated17:05
she_dyedwould dropbox work17:05
gravyandfrieseverything wants me to register a free hostname. I just want my "ip-address".sitefile.com17:05
FiremanEdgravyandfries: This is a little old but it can give you some info. http://linuxhomeserverguide.com/17:05
gravyandfriesits for one of my college classes. It has to be home made.17:05
gravyandfriesthank you guys. I appreciate the help :D17:06
she_dyedwell we'd be helping you cheat17:06
ometzitit said impossible to obtain the packages, since i dont have internet working17:06
daftykinsgravyandfries: you could just setup a dynamic DNS service from no-ip instead of buying a hostname17:06
daftykins*buying a domain name17:06
she_dyedok thats a start right there17:06
ActionPa1snipometzit: ok, get the stuff that can be updated, updated17:07
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ometzityup but the problem is that neither the wifi or the wired connection works (i'm connected through another computer)17:08
gravyandfriesam i able to host a website without a dns? by just setting a static ip?17:08
ometzitI mean I'm in this IRC through another computer ubuntu is in a dell laptop17:08
ActionPa1snipgravyandfries: you can 'get a website' using no-ip.com free account17:09
daftykinsgravyandfries: your internet connection likely won't have a static IP17:09
ActionPa1snipometzit: get updated and seehow you go17:09
daftykinsalso DNS != domain name17:09
bitsparkfor making home server http://www.server-world.info/en/17:09
gravyandfriesI am accustom to Visual Studio Programming so I feel like im drowning when im in this class haha thanks guys for the links im sure ill be back :P17:10
Rorygravyandfries: Come back and read that line you just said in two years when you're writing makefiles for your makefiles17:13
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ometzit\17:16
kerosene413hello ubuntu room17:18
leslibotelhohello17:18
kerosene413how are you this monday17:18
gravyandfrieshow do dns companies get the domain names? Why cant i do that as well like them? All the internet is is a Giant WLAN with millions of LANS right?17:18
Rorykerosene413: Mind your language in here with the "m word" please17:18
ometzitbut the problem is how to get updated without internet connection, there are several packages that need an update but neither the wifi or the wired connection are working17:19
gordonjcpgravyandfries: kind of, not WLAN as such though17:19
gordonjcpgravyandfries: you can look into becoming a domain name reseller17:19
she_dyedyes, but to keep things organizedd theres orgs like ICANN17:19
Rorygravyandfries: people in ##networking are pretty knowledgeable about networking, although that is somewhat more of a "where to start?" type of question17:19
gordonjcpgravyandfries: the actual domain registries ultimately tie back to ICANN17:19
gordonjcpgravyandfries: there is nothing to stop you running your own DNS and using whatever you like as a domain name17:20
Rorygravyandfries: I could call my street whatever I wanted to my friends, but that wouldn't make letters arrive at my made-up postal address17:20
daftykinsremember people you're doing someones homework17:20
daftykinsand not only that, but none of it is ubuntu support17:20
RoryOh gravyandfries is this an assignment? The answers are in your lecture notes17:20
daftykins:P17:20
kerosene413what m word there fucko17:21
Rory"the answers are in your lecture notes" is one of my favourite things to say, along with "no problem, just restore from your most recent backup"17:21
gravyandfriesactually kind of is, im using ubuntu to do setup a server as our final lol :D our teacher is having us research it cause our class is networking and we are learning about cisco routers and junk17:21
Rorykerosene413: It was a joke about "Monday", I apologise17:21
gordonjcp!language | Rory17:21
ubottuRory: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.17:21
gordonjcpRory: :-p17:22
phescogravyandfries: google lamp server..17:22
Rory!lamp | gravyandfries17:22
ubottugravyandfries: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.17:22
gravyandfrieslol, i saw lamp, combining all those17:22
gravyandfriesI understand that, im just caught up on the dns17:22
daftykinsgravyandfries: trust me, don't argue points :)17:23
phescohttp://www.noip.com/17:23
daftykinsyou're mixing up domain names with DNS - they're not the same thing17:23
daftykinsi also mentioned noip ages ago, which phesco has kindly linked you to now17:23
daftykinsyou have more than enough to get cracking17:23
phescoah sry I missed some of the thread.. is he just being lazy now?17:24
she_dyedhe is not aware his instructor logson too17:24
gravyandfrieshaha, I guess I was just lost on it yet. The whole DNS and Domain name and why i need to register a domain. Ill just look through what you guys led me to.17:24
phescoGood idea. You have tools to find the answers now.17:25
c4iffSo just installed AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i386linux_enu.deb, yet if pdfs still open with the older version and If I try and open Adobe 9 manually nothing happens17:25
wadSo about a month ago, I installed Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit desktop edition on my HP desktop computer. It has an NVidia video card in it. lspci shows: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [NVS 510] (rev a1)17:25
wadIt's using the Nouveau drivers.17:25
wadIt works about 20% of the time.17:26
wadWhen it boots, I can login to X, but it usually locks up at that point.17:26
wadSometimes it doesn't lock up, and I get to my desktop.17:26
wadI just keep cycling the power until it works.17:26
wadThis morning it took be about 15 minutes to get the thing up and running.17:26
wadThe system generates "Problem detected" dialogs regularly. I always have them send in the bug reports. The issues are always with xorg.17:27
wadAny of you guys know of some magic sauce I can pour into the case, that will fix the problem?17:28
she_dyedbleach, kills the dna17:28
phescovegetable oil17:28
phescojust unplug the fans first17:29
* wad rushes off to Costco17:29
phesco;)17:29
ActionPa1snipwad: have you tried other desktops than Gnome?17:29
she_dyedoh17:29
wadActionPa1snip, I'm just using the default one.17:29
wadActionPa1snip, is the default Gnome? I haven't really messed with desktops before.17:30
she_dyedditto, not bad no work scheduled today \o/17:30
lmatI've asked about vnc a few times in here. Never got any good answers (because the problems were pretty complex). I just found the good answer to *all* vnc server (vino) questions:17:30
lmatuse x11vnc17:30
lmatOkay, I've only used x11vnc for about 5 minutes, but it is *very* promising!17:30
ActionPa1snipwad: yes it's gnome, try installing xfce4 or lxde17:31
lmatVERY flexible, runs from cmdline, options out the wazoo, etc, etc, etc.17:31
wadActionPa1snip, okay, I'll give it a try.17:31
ActionPa1sniplmat: no sleeker way to achieve your goal?17:31
Piciwii lmat17:31
Picioops17:31
ActionPa1snipwad: you'll need to log off then log in to the new session to test17:31
wadok17:31
wadAh, you can choose a desktop at login?17:32
ActionPa1snipwad: yes17:32
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* wad googles xfce4 and lxde17:32
ActionPa1snipwad: they are package names17:33
lmatPici: What's meant by wii ?17:33
lmatActionPa1snip: Sleeker than x11vnc ? There is no sleeker as far as I can tell.17:33
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she_dyedthink thats a tiling window manager17:33
ActionPa1sniplmat: what do you do on the remote session when you are connected?17:33
lmatActionPa1snip: view only.17:33
ActionPa1sniplmat: bt to do what?17:34
ActionPa1sniplmat: to spy on the user?17:34
lmatActionPa1snip: what does bt mean ? I am running a Windows virtual machine so that I can17:34
lmatActionPa1snip: yes.17:34
Picilmat: mistab17:34
ActionPa1sniplmat: and that's it?17:34
lmatActionPa1snip: I'm running Lync because everyone at my company does. So, in order to share my screen, I need to set a VNC viewer17:34
lmatActionPa1snip: on the windows machine, and have it view the host, linux machine.17:35
lmatActionPa1snip: Then, lync can share the vnc viewer to the rest of the team.17:35
ActionPa1sniplmat: oh like a broadcast system for support?17:35
lmatActionPa1snip: Alternatively, we use Adobe Connect (same problem, although that *might* run on Linux if I really want it to)17:35
lmatActionPa1snip: No. It's for meetings. We're programmers, and sometimes, someone wants to have a meeting and have me show them something, etc.17:35
ActionPa1sniplmat: ahhh makes sense17:36
lmatActionPa1snip: But it could be as you say.17:36
skinuxWhat do we do with source that has autogen.sh, but not configure script?17:36
lmatActionPa1snip: Right. *Very* basic use of vnc. I was using vino, and one day, the screen stopped updating on client!17:36
she_dyedskinux: but no README.1st file17:37
ActionPa1sniplmat: you can use tmux, then the person can connect to your tmux session and type in your terminal just like you would17:37
lmatActionPa1snip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81318/remote-desktop-view-krfb-vnc-not-updating-on-client17:37
OerHeksis there a Flappy-Bird for linux?17:37
lmatActionPa1snip: HAHA!17:37
ActionPa1sniplmat: very cool17:37
wadActionPa1snip, what are some other options? XFCE and LXDE appear to be very lightweight. I'll give them a try, but I'm wondering if there are other options too. I don't really need lightweight (8-core i7 3.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM, etc)17:37
clocknetciao17:37
lmatActionPa1snip: The developers here *only* use windows, only want to use windows, only use mouse, etc., etc.17:37
EugeneBanditHello! Is there any problem possible when renaming the original folders in home ? For example : mv Desktop folder00 ?17:37
JaboOerHeks: http://www.helicoptergame.net/17:37
ActionPa1snipwad: if the other desktops are without issue, you have isolated the cause of the problem17:37
ActionPa1sniplmat: lame17:37
lmatActionPa1snip: So, this was my exact problem. And the solution was to install a new server. I was squeemish at first, but now *very* enthusiastic!17:37
wadActionPa1snip, gotcha.17:37
JaboOerHeks: Flappy Bird is a clone of that game, which is also a clone17:37
OerHeksthanks Jabo, i'll have a look17:38
Jabodifferent graphics but same game mechanic17:38
ActionPa1sniplmat: tmux is awesome in that way, saves having to get up and point at each others screen as you can typein each others terminals and code17:38
fred``is this the right chan for trusty bugs ?17:38
nikolamI have only wireless network card working and not UTP LAN. It is Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5721 and is not working now, once I changed motherboard.17:38
ActionPa1snipfred``: #ubuntu+117:39
fred``thx17:39
lmatActionPa1snip: I'm very familiar with tmux. In fact, the last few lines of by ~/.bashrc are   if [ -z "$TMUX" ]; then tmux; fi17:39
OerHeksJabo, now i understand why the maker revokes this game, thanks again17:39
lmatActionPa1snip: *very* lame.17:39
ActionPa1sniplmat: :(17:39
lmatActionPa1snip: My productivity is x5 I think because I use linux!17:39
kerosene413hey anyone heard of Windows Antivirus master malware17:39
kerosene413hey anyone heard of Windows Antivirus master malware17:39
kerosene413hey anyone heard of Windows Antivirus master malware17:39
kerosene413????17:40
tyler_d!spam17:40
ubottuPlease don't spam17:40
lmatActionPa1snip: I have a reasonable OS, but their OS is Eclipse IDE17:40
lmatkerosene413: you're a virus.17:40
ActionPa1sniplmat: by definition not :)17:40
OerHekskerosene413, wrong irc channel, join ##windows17:40
kerosene413nope im a client17:40
tyler_d!ask > kermit17:40
ubottukermit, please see my private message17:40
lmatkerosene413: Pardon me, you're acting like a virus ^_^ stop it.17:40
kermittyler_d: i think you meant that for someone else17:41
tyler_dI did indeed kermit :p17:41
tyler_dsorry17:42
she_dyedthink so too17:42
tyler_dkerosene413, is the intended party17:42
theukdaveAny ubuntu gurus and/or database admins that are UK or London based, please give me a shout, we have some freelance work going to tidy up our installation, and I'm looking for someone who really knows their stuff ... unlike me :)17:42
ActionPa1sniptheukdave: please spam elsewhere17:42
theukdaveActionPa1snip: how's that spam?17:43
ActionPa1sniptheukdave: this is support only, for people with ubuntu issues.17:43
lmattheukdave:  /topic ?17:43
lmattheukdave: guru.com, however, might be an excellent place to find your gurus :)17:43
ActionPa1sniptheukdave: and advertising unwantedly is considered spam17:43
theukdaveActionPa1snip: I'm looking for some onsite help, I don't have to pay them if that helps it not be spam17:44
ActionPa1sniptheukdave: do you have an Ubuntu support question?17:44
wadActionPa1snip, maybe you can deconfuse me... is "Gnome" the name of  Ubuntu's default "window manager"? What is "unity" and "compiz" and "lightdm" then?17:44
ActionPa1snipwad: Ubuntu's default window manage is Compiz. Unity is a shell and is nothing more than a plugin for compiz17:45
lmatwad: You're on a long road. good luck :)17:45
wadOh, and X11, and xorg. All the linux gui thingies are getting muddled in my brain.17:45
ActionPa1snipwad: lightdm gives you the graphical login screen17:45
* wad takes noes17:45
wadnotes17:45
ActionPa1snipwad: the X11 / Xorg is the disaply server that it all sits on17:45
lmatwad: I spent some time with wikipedia: lookup Desktop Environment, desktop manager, window manager, x server17:45
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tyler_dhow do I set up a hotkey for enabling/disabling my touchpad?17:46
ActionPa1snipwad: lots of people think unity replaces gnome, but it doesnt17:46
OerHekstyler_d, most laptops have such FN key17:46
tyler_dOerHeks, Mine does not function :(17:46
CaptainTacoSauceOkay hopefully this is an easy one. I install remmina, it works. I install remmina-plugins-nx, it installs, but doesn't show in plugins in remmina, but /usr/lib/remmina/plugins/remmina-plugin-nx.so exists, what do?17:46
tyler_dsee what I did there17:46
ActionPa1snipCaptainTacoSauce: did you compleely close remmina, then reopen it?17:47
wadah17:47
ActionPa1snipwad: its all about layers17:47
CaerdwynAnyone happen to know what ntfscluster is used/called for during a shutdown/reboot/halt? I keep getting the command's help output constantly when I turn off my laptop :|17:47
wadI need to find the diagram that shows the layers17:47
Caerdwynhttp://i.imgur.com/9UCBfLG.jpg17:47
nieehi folks. sometimes my sound stops. I need to restart my OS ];17:47
kzettsHi, I had to use nomodeset to get the disk to boot, now my gfx resolution isnt listed. How do I set a new mode without using xorg.conf?17:47
ActionPa1snipwad: you can perform X forwardikng becuse the Xorg layer can be moved to a remote PC and the OS doesn't care17:47
CaptainTacoSauceActionPa1snip: Haha derp, how did I miss that? I closed it but there was some leftover process running. Thanks.17:48
ActionPa1snipCaptainTacoSauce: needs killing and reopening to load the new stuff17:48
ActionPa1snipwad: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Schema_of_the_layers_of_the_graphical_user_interface.svg17:49
OerHekstyler_d, this answer might be any help >> http://askubuntu.com/a/18253117:49
CaptainTacoSauceMakes sense, just surprised closing it didn't stop the process, either way, solved. :D17:49
wadthanks!17:50
TJ-Caerdwyn: See if you can find it mentioned in the init scripts, with "sudo grep ntfscluster /etc/init{,.d}/*"17:50
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CaerdwynTJ-: no results.17:51
tyler_dOerHeks, listed, but no effect on input when doing that17:51
TJ-Caerdwyn: OK, so must be some sub-script of those17:51
wadActionPa1snip, that's a great diagram, thanks! Where does lightdm fit in there? I don't think it has anything to do with the display manager, does it replace the graphical interface?17:51
wadJust for logging in.17:51
ActionPa1snipwad: lightdm loads first, then you login and it loads the desktop things as instructed17:52
OerHekstyler_d, maybe logout/login to activate new keys?17:52
CaerdwynTJ-: I've been digging through the rc6.d and rc0.d folders all day, haven't found a thing yet that it could be... I uninstall ntfs-3g since ntfscluster seems to be some part of that package, and I get http://i.imgur.com/jsiMFLo.jpg17:52
nikolamIs BTRFS is or will be supported in next LTS?17:53
ActionPa1snipnikolam: yes17:53
tyler_dOerHeks, that wouln't much help on the fly though... and the input can be changed from the mouse settings17:53
TJ-Caerdwyn: That seems to suggest it is a VirtualBox related issue17:53
wadWhich one of those boxes does, say, lxde replace? Is it the "graphical interface"?17:53
ActionPa1snipwad: it replaces gnome/kde etc17:53
tyler_dOerHeks, I was unable however to find what is being run to do that from the settings17:53
wadAh, okay.17:53
ActionPa1snipwad: you can run Compiz + Unity in LXDE if you wish :)17:53
nikolamActionPa1snip, with using set-default for volumes before reboot for changing active subvolume, or is there some support for changing GRUB2 items?17:53
ragnarulacan someone help? How do i get invited to the programming channels like #c++ or #java?17:53
nikolamActionPa1snip, that is good news17:53
ActionPa1snipnikolam: no idea, not something I use, try i n#ubuntu+1 when Trusty is discussed and support (til release day)17:54
CaerdwynTJ-: So VirtualBox is messing around with ntfscluster? That's really odd, I've never seen something like that before, though it was only just recently I installed Windows 7 on another harddisk, using a raw .vmdk file (raw access to the hard disk)17:54
nikolamActionPa1snip, ok, thanks17:54
TJ-Caerdwyn: No, not necessarily, but VB looks to be the 'thing' that is last done prior to the error report17:55
wadOkay, so I  installed lxde, logged out, but didn't see any way to choose which graphical interface I wanted to run on login. I clicked everything I could find to click....17:55
wadDid I miss something, or am I looking in the wrong place?17:55
CaerdwynTJ-: is there a way to see what exactly is being done during shutdown, i.e., viewing what exactly is being killed/closed before it turns off? Basically, a verbose shutdown...17:56
tyler_dCaerdwyn, enable syslogging17:57
TJ-Caerdwyn: not much more than you alreayd have, by its nature, core services are being stopped.17:57
Caerdwyntyler_d: as in, /var/log/syslog? If I remember correctly, syslogd is already active...17:57
tyler_dCaerdwyn, you may want to offload the messages to get more logging details from the system though17:58
CaerdwynTJ-: ah, so there isn't really a verbose way of showing each kill command, or what is being done, other then just "*All Processes ended in 1 second"17:58
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ActionPa1snipwad: its the little logo near your username17:58
lmatwad: ActionPa1snip: aye, excellent diagram!17:58
wadActionPa1snip, Ah, okay.17:58
Caerdwyntyler_d: I don't understand what you're asking... offload them how? to what?17:58
TJ-Caerdwyn: Here's the thing: If the cause was another Ubuntu package, it would "Depend" on "ntfs-3g", and so removing "ntfs-3g" would cause the other package to be removed as well. Therefore, this suggests whatever is causing the issue is either 1) a user-created configuration option or 2) a non-Ubuntu package installation17:58
* wad tries again17:58
lmatActionPa1snip: But what's a desktop manager ?17:58
tyler_dCaerdwyn, what is it exactly you are looking to discover from the shutdown process? What I am saying is that for finite logging offload the syslogs to a syslog server for viewing afterwards...17:59
tyler_dCaerdwyn, but pending what information you are looking for and why we may be able to better help.17:59
ActionPa1sniplmat: lmat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment18:00
darrenhey all18:00
Caerdwyntyler_d: http://i.imgur.com/9UCBfLG.jpg <-- "ntfscluster" is being called twice during the shutdown process at the very last moment, spewing out its help information18:00
Caerdwyntyler_d: what I want to know is what process or script is calling it, and how can I stop it?18:00
darrenMust say, i have experimented with linux for the past year but in the last 2 weeks, i have really started to understand linux a lot more18:01
tyler_dCaerdwyn, have you checked running services? searched for reference in your init.d?18:01
darrenand linux is really great when you take time to learn the new system ><18:01
lmatdarren: Welcome!18:02
TJ-tyler_d: Yes, we've already done that18:02
Caerdwyn^18:02
TJ-Caerdwyn: I'm wondering if it is related to a fuser or system un-mount script/operation18:02
lmatActionPa1snip: I see, so it's a particular approach to the "GUI" layer in the diagram.18:02
skinuxHelp with this please: make[2]: *** [examples] Error 25518:02
skinuxmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/skinux/Downloads/gegl/gegl/docs'18:02
tyler_dTJ-, Caerdwyn so you did `sudo grep -Rl ntfscluster /etc/*`18:02
Caerdwyntyler_d: grepping for "ntfscluster" in any of the scripts in /etc/init.d has shown 0 results, and there is no other results either from digging in /etc/rc6.d or /etc/rc0.d18:03
daftykinsdarren: that's wonderful, but this is a support channel :)18:03
lmatlooks like we lost wad ActionPa1snip ^_^18:03
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ActionPa1snipjust making new users at work (zzzzzzzzzzz)18:03
CaerdwynTJ-: I thought the same thing, but I've not been able to find it yet. /etc/rc6.0?/S60unmountfs has many mount commands in it, but nothing that appears to be calling ntfscluster18:03
darrenI do have some questions :p but i think im in the wrong channell.. I want to look into how to use my programming hobby to do some programming for linux system and for linux OS's ...18:03
darrenbut just realised this is ubuntu server18:04
bazhang##programming darren18:04
nieehi folks. sometimes my sound stops. I need to restart my OS ]; any ideas?18:04
darrenthanks18:04
tyler_dCaerdwyn, so you did the recursive grep from /etc/ and came up with nothing?18:04
Caerdwyntyler_d:18:05
Caerdwynedward@ubuntu:~$ sudo grep -Rl ntfscluster /etc/*18:05
Caerdwyngrep: /etc/blkid.tab: No such file or directory18:05
CaerdwynThat's it.18:05
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tyler_dCaerdwyn, disable the service, reboot, ensure it's actually running (ps -ef) and shutdown18:05
tyler_dpelase18:06
gravyandfriesHi guys! Back again :P curious real quick would Bind9 be used in ubuntu 13.10 to setup a hostname to connect from anywhere or would I still need a DomainName Provider like no-ip or dyndns?18:06
tyler_dplease too :)18:06
Caerdwyntyler_d: what service?18:06
tyler_dis it not installed as a service Caerdwyn18:06
* Caerdwyn is still relatively new to ubuntu18:06
Caerdwyntyler_d: no, ntfscluster is a binary at /bin/ntfscluster18:06
daftykinsgravyandfries: no you're confusing DNS and domains again, they're not the same thing18:06
ActionPa1snipgravyandfries: you would need  a web facing DNS to resolve the name to your IP18:06
tux_fansmbdy an idea how to fix this : eth0: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg357766.bin" ?18:07
ActionPa1snipgravyandfries: you need to get a service online which will translate the name to your IP18:07
tyler_dCaerdwyn, `service --status-all | grep "ntfscluster"`18:07
TJ-Caerdwyn: which Ubuntu version is this?18:07
tux_faneth0 is working though, but not the integrated (broadcom netXtreme) sd card reader chip18:07
CaerdwynTJ-: 13.1018:08
Caerdwyntyler_d: http://i.imgur.com/ysLy0B7.png18:08
TJ-tyler_d: Caerdwyn: Something other than the ntfs-3g package is responsible, since there's a ntfs-3g shared-library error after the "ntfs-3g" package is uninstalled18:09
gravyandfriesWell I have the 13.10 installed and running and i went ahead and installed LAMP and Samba. So ill just have to use my local host and have it connect to the dyndns/no-ip host name? Correct? Just don't wanna ruin the pc I have to test on.18:09
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CaerdwynTJ-: That's what I thought too, but /what/ it is though has got me stumped.18:09
TJ-Caerdwyn: What, if anything, have you installed or customised that isn't a part of the standard Ubuntu archives?18:10
tyler_dCaerdwyn, strange, try that without the quotes around ntfscluster please18:10
CaerdwynI've had VirtualBox on this machine for a while now, and this /just/ started happening recently, within the past few days. Only recently installed packages within the past week have been HexChat, xosview, and MultiBit18:10
franco014hola18:10
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Caerdwyntyler_d: same results as the first time18:10
franco014:P18:10
tyler_dCaerdwyn, those aren't matches though so I'm a tad bit confused18:11
Caerdwyntyler_d: same here...18:11
franco014hola ahy alguien ahy18:11
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TJ-Caerdwyn: Long shot, but look for mentions in the executable paths: "for f in /{s,}bin/* /usr/{s,}bin/* /usr/local/{s,}bin/*; do if file $f | grep -q POSIX ; then grep -l ntfscluster $f; fi; done"18:12
Luilakde1eHi. Am I only missing some logic in this picture and what possibly could be the reason it's doing this? http://ubuntuone.com/11N3Glchi9uaazPEtg02ca18:12
CaerdwynTJ-: anything I've installed, minus Steam and MultiBit, has been from the Ubuntu repo, so I've not made any major changes to the machine, other then my own customization tweaks like backgrounds and transparency of the unity panel18:12
CaerdwynTJ-: 0 results on your command18:13
tyler_dTJ-, why would that grep have shown all the unmatched stuff from service --status-all?18:13
CaerdwynBe right back, it appears a breaker blew downstairs, power went out >_<18:14
daftykinsgravyandfries: ok, wow. a service such as NoIP - all it does is publish to the internet that your home internet-facing IP address (visit whatismyip.com or look on your router webpages to see it) is returned when someone types yourdomainchoice.no-ip.biz - understand?18:14
lmatWhen I sudo apt-get upgrade, gcc is still at 4.6. Is Ubuntu unimpressed with gcc 4.7 or something ?18:14
daftykins!latest | lmat18:15
ubottulmat: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.18:15
TJ-Caerdwyn: tyler_d: Because service writes to stderr. Do "  service --status-all 2>&1 | grep "ntfscluster"   "18:15
lmatdaftykins: Gotcha. I'll leave out the, "But we're talking about gcc, here! 4.6.3 is way old!" bit ^_^18:15
daftykins;)18:16
daftykinslmat: just be sure your PPAs are pointing to a good source, for the versions you're being told18:16
tyler_dTJ-, ty sir.18:16
xjkxI can't take screenshots...I run openbox, and when I run by command line the gnome-screenshot, it says this "** Message: Unable to use GNOME Shell's builtin screenshot interface, resorting to fallback X11." and I tried import -w root picture.jpg but I get an almost all black picture18:17
gravyandfriesdaftykins: Gotcha, gotcha, ok. I apologize. Today is the first time I have EVER used linux/Ubuntu and networking past a LAN. So thank you. I do appreciate the help!18:17
xjkxRunning 13.10 64 bits18:17
daftykinsgravyandfries: so once you have a dynamic DNS service running, such as from no-ip, you need to install a client at home to keep that address up to date18:17
Luilakde1e To clarify my earlier picture (http://ubuntuone.com/11N3Glchi9uaazPEtg02ca) I keep running out of diskspace, or so my system wants to make me believe. I've deleted all large files. Checking disk usage, my home folder implies I'm using the full 30 gig. My home folder appears to imply otherwise. Any clues?18:18
daftykinsgravyandfries: once you've done that - you need a service to actually be running and open externally to the internet, so others can reach it. for example a web server. this will require port forwarding on the router.18:18
gravyandfriesyup, i already adjusted the ports. I have them forwarding on 8080.18:18
TJ-Caerdwyn:  tyler_d: *something* is linked against ntfs-3g that isn't part of the Ubuntu repositories, or a package in the repos doesn't correctly "depends" on ntfs-3g, for this error when "ntfs-3g" package isn't installed http://i.imgur.com/jsiMFLo.jpg18:18
TJ-Caerdwyn: Let's pretend we think it is caused by VirtualBox. Look in "/etc/init.d/" and "/etc/init/" for any obvious VB service scripts. If you find one/some, try manually stopping each one in turn and seeing if you get the same error at the console, so "sudo service XXXXX stop"18:21
xjkx(13.10, 64 bits) I can't take screenshots, I run openbox, and when I run by command line the gnome-screenshot, it says this "** Message: Unable to use GNOME Shell's builtin screenshot interface, resorting to fallback X11." and I tried import -w root picture.jpg but I get an almost all black picture18:23
tyler_dfun stuff.18:23
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tyler_dxjkx, personally I prefer shutter :p18:24
xjkxtyler_d: thanks will give it a try18:25
nieeubuntu buged system18:26
zykotick9xjkx: scrot is a very minimal screenshot app - you might want to try18:26
xjkxzykotick9: didnt know this one either, will try as well thanks18:26
zykotick9xjkx: fyi, it's terminal based - if that's an issue for you18:27
c4iffHaving some issues with libstdc++ and getting adobe reader 9.5 to work18:27
callemannHi, just installed Ubuntu 13.1 on a Macbook Core 2 duo18:27
xjkxzykotick9: Ah I dont mind it18:27
ometzitHello everyone, one question: how can I reinstall Ubuntu, from Ubuntu is there a way to open the Ubuntu installer while running it, I want to re install my distribution but I don't have a pen drive or a dvd nearby18:27
callemannEverything is good, except my trackpad does not work18:27
callemannNot sure how to troubleshoot.18:28
TJ-ometzit: You can reinstall one or more packages using "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packages>" but it's not possible to run the ubiquity installer against the running system18:29
nikolamDoes removing application removes also packages that were installed as dependencies?18:29
gravyandfriesWow, got all that info and everything and my ISP wont support website hosting... guess im just making a normal little file storage with ubuntu. Have a good one guys!18:29
nikolamOr separate command is needed to list and remove them18:29
TJ-nikolam: If it doesn't "sudo apt-get autoremove" will18:29
callemanncan anyone helt me with a non-functioning trackpad?18:31
ometzitTJ- how do I issue that command for all the packages18:31
TJ-ometzit: What are you *really* trying to do/fix ?18:31
ometziton the other hand, I'm without internet18:31
TJ-ometzit: "apt-get --reinstall install ..." will work without network access *if* the packages are still in "/var/cache/apt/archives/"18:32
ometzitfix the wired-wireless conection. I have a broadcom card and I have made so many changes to the blacklist that I feel it would be easier just to reinstall ubuntu18:32
zykotick9TJ-: seems like a waste of time to me...18:32
ActionPa1snipgravyandfries: just buy a domain on 123reg then point the IP to your router's wan IP. done18:33
ometzitto the blacklist and everything else18:33
TJ-ometzit: Without an installer ISO or network access I'd suggest it'd be much easier to clean up the current mess :)18:34
waigorenDoes ubuntu automatically set sysctl : fs.file-max or /proc/sys/fs/file-max ?18:35
ometzit:( okay, the card is a BCM4313, I think the problem is that I used a wrong driver18:36
lmathuh-oh...I sudo apt-get purge gcc-4.6   and it removed a lot of stuff...I'm scared to restart now.18:36
lmatApparently unity desktop (or was it gnome desktop) was removed ? and vim ? eek...18:36
ActionPa1snipwaigoren: if you set things in /etc/sysctl.conf   you can make them be what you wish18:36
ometzitthe card is actually recognized, but is stuck in asking for the wifi password but it doesnt log in18:36
ActionPa1snipometzit: are there lots of networks on the same channel around you?18:37
waigorenActionPa1snip: what I'm seeing is, file-max is already set to different numbers on different servers in my environment (I'm the only sysadmin, no one else is setting them)18:37
TJ-ometzit: Well, that sounds like some kind of success. I'd be looking at the Network-Manager entries in "/var/log/syslog" since they are usually very descriptive of what is going on18:37
ometzityup a hell lot I'm in a student complex18:37
ActionPa1snipometzit: on the same channel?18:38
ActionPa1snipometzit: then thats the issue, switch to a less busy channel18:38
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xdotcommerdoes rc.local always run as root18:38
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ActionPa1snipxdotcommer: yes18:38
ActionPa1snipxdotcommer: you can use su to make commands run as a different user18:39
xdotcommerI am running: screen /mine/scrip.sh18:39
ometzitlet me try that in a second, TJ- what info should I look in the syslog18:39
xdotcommerbut it does not seem like its started by root18:39
CaerdwynTJ-: back, sorry... Power went out -_-18:39
ometzitthe last entry is NetworkManager 1046 couldn't disconnect supplicsnt interface: this interface is not connected18:39
CaerdwynTJ-: in /etc/init.d, there is vboxautostart-service, vbosballoonctrl-service, vboxdrv, and vboxweb-service.18:40
TJ-ometzit: Anything and everything ... ensure for starters it is trying to authorize against the access point you expect it too. In a crowded space their may be identical SSIDs18:40
ActionPa1snipxdotcommer: then run:  ps -ef | grep scrip.sh | grep -v grep | awk {'print $1'}18:40
ActionPa1snipxdotcommer: what is output?18:40
TJ-Caerdwyn: No worries. OK... as I said, try stopping each of those in turn and seeing if you get the same error at the console18:40
TJ-Caerdwyn: You've got to narrow down the possibilities since the cause isn't obvious. That will either rule in or out the vbox services18:41
CaerdwynTJ-: stop each one and see if it shows that error immediately? or reboot each time? I only see that error during shutdown/halt/reboot18:41
ometzitokay i'm going to copy a few lines to a (how was the name of the page where you can copy the output and it gives you a short url?)18:41
Caerdwynometzit: pastebin it?18:41
zykotick9!paste | ometzit18:42
ometzityup, thnks18:42
ubottuometzit: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:42
ometzitah much better18:42
TJ-Caerdwyn: Just stop each one in turn. You're looking for any service that causes the error. At shutdown all services are called with "stop" - you're simulating that manually.18:42
CaerdwynTJ-: ah, so a "sudo service xxx stop" now would throw that error in the terminal if it was the cause?18:43
TJ-Caerdwyn: We hope :)18:43
Caerdwynor in this case, "/etc/init.d/service stop"18:43
Voyagehow to give full access to everyone for a dir?18:43
Voyageby console18:43
ometzitokay here is the syslog (a few lines) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910608/18:43
TJ-Caerdwyn: "service" executable will look for both Sys V and Upstart jobs18:44
zykotick9Voyage: the the dir in question on an EXT partition?18:44
zykotick9s/the the/is the/18:44
CaerdwynTJ-: http://i.imgur.com/dwK83RA.png18:44
TJ-Caerdwyn: The other way to do it is "sudo initctl stop <jobname>"18:44
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ometzitnetwork name is TheWalkingNet (funny name)18:44
CaerdwynAlright, didn't know that one18:44
Voyagezykotick9,  yes18:45
DbuggerHey guys. I just apt-get installed phpmyadmin, but in localhost/phpmyadmin appears nothing. Can someone give me a hand?18:45
CaerdwynTJ-: but as you can see, no errors... This is really weird :|18:45
bazui use thunderbird for mail client and irc client on my ubuntu 12.04.4 x64 but when press "x" a.k.a close just kill the service but doest stay in notification area18:45
zykotick9Voyage: "chmod 777 /path/to/dir"18:45
Voyagezykotick9,  if its an ntfs?18:45
zykotick9Voyage: then you CAN'T use gnu/linux tools!  it has everything to do with how it's mounted.18:46
zykotick9Voyage: is it ntfs?18:46
TJ-Caerdwyn: OK, how about pastebin/screenshot for me "ls -l /etc/rc6.d/"  ?18:46
Voyagezykotick9,  yes18:46
TJ-Caerdwyn: lets focus on the shutdown scripts themselves18:46
zykotick9Voyage: i can't/won't help - good luck.18:46
Voyagezykotick9,  thanks18:46
ometzitmost recent login attempt in line 1000 gives Feb 10 19:38:18 luis-laptop wpa_supplicant[1239]: Association request to the driver failed18:46
CaerdwynTJ-: http://i.imgur.com/DbR35WH.png18:46
bazui use thunderbird for mail client and irc client on my ubuntu 12.04.4 x64 but when press "x" a.k.a close just kill the service but doest stay in notification area18:48
JetienHi! Just installed 13.10 x64 and something seems to be wrong with policy system. 1) I can't create network connections in nm-applet 2) if i try to start synaptic i'm not asked for a password and nothing happens 3) aplay -l shows me no soundcards, even though as root i can play sound -  I think these are all related. Can you please me find out the source of these errors?18:48
d4rk4g3shello.18:48
robbiebobhello18:48
uporothi18:49
d4rk4g3sis there a way to boot an ubuntu usb on a mac?18:49
TJ-Caerdwyn: Can you pastebinit this output? "ps -efly"  ... I want to investigate the running process list for clues18:49
d4rk4g3sjust for temporary use, like as a liveusb, not for installations.18:49
Caerdwyn!pastebinit18:49
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com18:49
CaerdwynHmmm, lemme install that real quick, TJ-18:49
ometziti'm going to try the switching to another band method in the mean time, i'll be back18:49
bazud4rk4g3s: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx18:50
robbiebobhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx18:50
robbiebobfor bootable usb18:50
RalliasIs there something like wireshark but for PCIe instead of network?18:50
CaerdwynTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910647/18:51
uporotbazu: cool! i too do usb flash for mac18:51
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xjkxGftp doesn't record my password for ftp, does anyone recommend me another ftp client, or how to make it record at least ?18:52
robbiebobfilezilla perhaps?18:53
bazufilezzila18:53
administradora18:53
administradorhola18:53
uporotheil!18:53
xjkxThanks will try filezilla18:54
administradorme voy a windows18:54
administrador:P18:54
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zykotick9ftp must die!  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie18:55
tyler_dzykotick9, bit old don't you think? most have already read everything from wooly18:55
TJ-Caerdwyn: Does this happen even if you do not have the two NTFS file-systems (/dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc2) mounted?18:55
zykotick9tyler_d: if people are asking about saved ftp passwords - obviously not everyone has read it/or understood it ;)18:56
tyler_dfair enough18:56
JetienOkay different question: How do you find out the error of an 'apport' dialog to pop-up?18:56
JetienI get 3 at session start18:57
CaerdwynTJ-: yes. Right now, my laptop is plugged into a hub which has a 2TB external hard disk, a 500gb external (both NTFS, the ones you see), a iPod, and flash drive on it. Whether or not any of that is attached (the laptop is alone, no attached devices), it still throws that error, regardless.18:57
tyler_dJetien, strace? increase logging level of the application directly... run from a terminal....18:57
TJ-Caerdwyn: ok, that is helpful since it suggests that it's not a process launched by an un-mount operation18:57
Jetientyler_d, I don't know which applications are crashing - there are just 3 pop-ups saying 'System program problem detected'18:58
CaerdwynTJ-: ok?18:58
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tyler_dJetien, there must be more details available either in the dialog or alternately in /var/log/something.....18:58
PiciJetien: there should be files in /var/crash/18:58
Jetientyler_d, already checked. nothing in syslog18:58
tyler_dJetien, what about the other logs18:59
tyler_dJetien, still kern, Xorg, dmesg18:59
TJ-Caerdwyn: We know there's a problem even when ntfs-3g package is uninstalled, so something has a link to it that shouldn't have18:59
Jetiennothing in lightdm/lightm.log19:00
CaerdwynTJ-: something interesting I tried earlier (while the error was happening), I "sudo mv /bin/ntfscluster /bin/ntfscluster.bak && touch /bin/ntfscluster && chmod +x /bin/ntfscluster" to see if a reboot/halt would ignore that command... Nope. It still somehow called the help of ntfscluster and printed it all over the shutdown "log", as shown in the screenshots.19:01
JetienNo (EE) in Xorg.0.log19:01
JetienNothing ordinary in /var/log/dmesg19:01
tyler_dJetien, the error must be more verbose than simply stating a failure I should think?19:01
CaerdwynTJ-: did it thinking that "well, maybe if it sees an empty executable in /bin, it'll ignore it and shutdown gracefully". Nope, it figured it out and still called the normal /bin/ntfscluster anyway.19:01
TJ-Caerdwyn: really? that *is* interesting. Have you looked for other installs of a non-Ubuntu ntfs-3g package?19:01
TJ-Caerdwyn: "find /usr/local/ -type f -name '*ntfs*'  "19:02
Jetientyler_d, yes i suspect something like ssh-agent failing19:02
CaerdwynTJ-: no results, went immediately back to the shell.19:02
Jetienthere are no recently-created files in /var/crash19:03
TJ-Caerdwyn: OK, had to be too easy :)19:03
CaerdwynTJ-: ...what?19:03
Jetienthe three pop-ups only have buttons 'cancel' and 'report problem' - why..19:03
TJ-Caerdwyn: I mean, finding the cause is going to be a lot more difficult that a simple search like that :)19:04
Xuisce_Hi all19:04
CaerdwynTJ-: Oh, of course... if it were that simple, I wouldn't have had to figure out where this irc channel was, and call for help from people with actual experience xD19:04
tyler_dJetien, that's quite frustrating if it doesn't show you what it is that has pooped.19:04
TJ-Caerdwyn: How about "locate ntfscluster"19:04
PiciJetien: iirc, "report problem" gives you a window that lists what would be submitted, and in there you should see more info.19:04
CaerdwynTJ-:19:05
Caerdwynsudo mv /bin/ntfscluster /bin/ntfscluster.bak && touch /bin/ntfscluster && chmod +x /bin/ntfscluster19:05
JetienPici, nothing happens when i click that button19:05
Caerdwynwhoops19:05
Caerdwyn /bin/ntfscluster19:05
Caerdwyn /usr/share/man/man8/ntfscluster.8.gz19:05
Jetienthat is probably also related to the other problems :)19:05
Jetienthe most frustrating thing is that it's a fresh 13.10 install19:05
TJ-Caerdwyn: I think it's time for brute-force and ignorance... and a little time: "sudo grep -rn ntfscluster /usr/lib/*"19:06
JetienI already tried a different desktop environment. same issues there19:06
Rory"I think it's time for brute-force and ignorance" - #ubuntu, feb 201419:06
CaerdwynTJ-: "brute force and ignorance". I like you.19:06
CaerdwynXD19:06
TJ-Caerdwyn: You'll like my big hammer even more, then :)19:06
Caerdwyn:o19:07
Caerdwynman, I like you guys already...19:07
TJ-Caerdwyn: I've been doing extensive web-searches for any utilities that might make use of ntfscluster. Aside from some ddrescue scripts, I cannot find anything.19:07
CaerdwynAye, I've had the same luck here as well... Spent about 4 straight hours today so far, researching what in the world could possibly be using this "ntfscluster" program, other then it appears to be a part of the ntfsprogs/ntfs-3g package19:08
CaerdwynTJ-: http://i.imgur.com/aWEmNS1.png19:09
CaerdwynYou're not gonna like me very soon, I can tell :P19:09
CaerdwynNothing you've given me command-wise has turned up any results... ._<19:09
daftykinslol posting an image of command line output19:09
Caerdwyn>_<*19:09
TJ-Caerdwyn: If there were an NTFS mount, then I could understand another ntfs-3g tool calling it... but when you've got no NTFS mounts, that doesn't make sense... and the fact you get the help showing suggests a script is calling ntfscluster with the wrong arguments19:09
daftykinsCaerdwyn: paste.ubuntu.com :)19:09
Caerdwyndaftykins: I did it just to prove there was really nothing, rather then showing an empty pastebin :P19:10
daftykinsthe pastebin wouldn't be empty, it'd show exactly that! with less wasted blackspace i might add...19:10
Programmer_anyone run google chrome?19:10
Caerdwyndaftykins: yeah, yeah, I know...19:10
tyler_dProgrammer_, yes19:11
Programmer_you having issues with it tyler_d?19:11
CaerdwynTJ-: That's what I would have thought too, but like you've seen so far, nothing either of us has searched for, script-wise, has turned up anything related to ntfscluster, or any type of command that is trying to call it :\19:11
tyler_dProgrammer_, be more specific please19:12
Programmer_getting a "your profile could not be opened correctly" error every time you open chrome19:12
Jetieni'm trying to switch lightdm->gdm . If i don't come back that means it fixed my problems19:12
CaerdwynTJ-: which was why I asked earlier, was there a way to have a debug/verbose output on shutdown, showing each command used to kill/unmount/un-whatever the applications that have to shutdown before the machine either turns off, or reboots.19:12
tyler_dProgrammer_, nope. sounds like you should move your profile and open it again sir.19:13
TJ-Caerdwyn: I have an idea... although your previous attempts to replace /bin/ntfscluster suggest it won't help. replace it with a script that simply writes out its command line and parent process id and that process's info too19:13
CaerdwynSeeing "*Asking remaining processes to terminate" tells me practically nothing, other then the fact that is a pre-written statement in one of the shutdown scripts. It doesn't actually /tell/ you what is going on, what applications could be hanging, causing the error, nothing.19:13
Programmer_ok19:14
TJ-Caerdwyn: The upstart init program handles this and there's no way to ask it to be more verbose, that I am aware of19:14
tyler_dProgrammer_, something like this I can only assume --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/32706/profile-error-when-launching-google-chrome19:14
CaerdwynTJ-: oh, that just sucks... I would've thought having something blurt out debug messages about the shutdown in the same manner that you can have a verbose boot would be a "thing" :|19:15
Programmer_ok19:15
Guest23348somebody use lirc on ubuntu19:16
zykotick9!anyone | Guest2334819:16
ubottuGuest23348: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.19:16
Guest23348i need help for configure lirc on ubuntu19:19
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nikolamI figured out why I was always disgusted when ever starting software center in ubuntu/xubuntu. It is the thing that I can not make it display ONLY Free software applications...19:20
RoryGuest23348: You can set a more friendly nickname with the "/nick" command - for example to change my name to Rory I typed "/nick Rory" (without the quotes)19:20
RoryGuest23348: You should describe what you're trying to achieve, and what problems you're having when you try to do it19:20
nikolamAn yes, license: "Open source" is not informative at all.19:20
TJ-Caerdwyn: Another try: "   OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=":"; for d in $PATH; do sudo grep -l ntfscluster $(readlink -e $d)/* 2>/dev/null; done; IFS=$OLDIFS    "19:20
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TJ-Caerdwyn: The only output I'd expect is "/bin/ntfscluster"19:21
zykotick9nikolam: if you want only free software, perhaps you're using the wrong distro...19:21
nikolamzykotick9, no. you are wrong19:21
CaerdwynNope TJ-, there was 4. /sbin/killall5, /bin/ntfscluster, /bin/ntfscluster.bak (my backup), and /bin/pidof19:22
hochbananehelp19:22
Rorynikolam: Does Synaptic provide that functionality? I think you can organise by repository, and Ubuntu's repositories are somewhat organised by licence19:22
hochbananedpkg: Warnung: Parsen der Datei »/var/lib/dpkg/status«, nahe Zeile 10044 Paket »libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager«:19:22
hochbanane Feld »Depends«, Referenz auf »libc6«:19:22
hochbanane implizite exakte Übereinstimmung mit Versionsnummer, vielleicht stattdessen »=« benutzen19:22
hochbananedpkg: Warnung: Parsen der Datei »/var/lib/dpkg/status«, nahe Zeile 10044 Paket »libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager«:19:22
hochbanane Feld »Depends«, Referenz auf »libc6«:19:22
hochbanane Wert für Version beginnt mit nicht-alphanumerischem Zeichen, vielleicht ein Leerzeichen hinzufügen19:22
hochbananedpkg: Fehler: Parsen der Datei »/var/lib/dpkg/status«, nahe Zeile 10044 Paket »libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager«:19:22
hochbanane Feld »Depends«, Referenz auf »libc6«: Version enthält » «19:22
hochbananeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)19:22
OerHeksnikolam, i use synaptic to avoid thos paid apps19:22
Caerdwynholy hell o.o19:22
Caerdwyn!pastebinit | hochbanane19:22
ubottuhochbanane: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com19:22
Rorynikolam: Ubuntu includes non-free software. Also you're not really asking a support question, more just joining and ranting, which is highly encouraged in #ubuntu-offtopic19:22
nikolamyes, but unfortunately, software center could be something better Rory , but yes, I use synaptic. Software center was disgusting from day119:22
Rorynikolam: Cool, everyone wins =)19:23
nikolamRory, well, it includes non-free if you want to install it. Ubuntu is Not the mix of open source/closed source. people tend to install closed source, but ut is saying more about people then Ubuntu.19:23
TJ-Caerdwyn: OK, now I'm suspicious19:24
CaerdwynTJ-: about what?19:24
nikolamAlso if i want especially to see what I can purchase and select to see just that, I see unhealthy list...19:24
OerHeksnikolam, do you have a real support issue?19:25
nikolamSo it feels unhealthy in general to mix spywar (closed source) apps that you sell, with free software (and not "open source")19:25
TJ-Caerdwyn: About why those files mention ntfscluster. Can you "strings /sbin/killall5 /bin/pidof | pastebinit"19:25
CaerdwynTJ-:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910866/19:26
CaerdwynTJ-: line 132, ntfscluster.c19:26
Rory!fud | nikolam #ubuntu-offtopic19:26
ubottunikolam #ubuntu-offtopic: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt19:26
Caerdwynand 142 it seems19:26
nikolamOerHeks, I report general affect to users from the day one of software center. I also report that Program License is NOT displayed in software center, before installing applications and that goes against terms and services of applications.19:26
Picinikolam: then file a bug19:26
nikolamI report a bug (RFE) that "open source" is not valid license for displaying apps in software center.19:27
nikolamOk Pici19:27
TJ-Caerdwyn: And *there* is the issue!19:27
CaerdwynTJ-: you say that, yet I have no clue what you're talking about... What part of this is the issue?19:27
Rorynikolam: That's the sort of thing that it would be good to discuss on this mailing list maybe https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss19:28
TJ-Caerdwyn: Those strings outputs... you've managed to replace "/sbin/killall5" and "/bin/pidof" with (the contents of) "/bin/ntfscluster"19:28
VlanXcan I read anywhere the logs for my tftp transfers with /etc/xinetd.d/tftp ?19:28
CaerdwynTJ-: I honestly have no clue how, since I've never modified those files, nor even been /in/ the directories those are contained in19:28
TJ-Caerdwyn: Let's try a reinstall of those packages: "sudo apt-get --reinstall sysvinit-utils"19:29
nikolamok Rory19:29
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John_John_how to install mono in ubuntu 13.10 ?19:29
CaerdwynTJ-: sudo apt-get install --reinstall19:29
OerHeksnikolam, license, it is displayed > http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-NQwsIQLj.1392060573.png19:29
TJ-Caerdwyn: sorry, yes19:30
RoryJohn_John_: Are you wanting to develop Mono applications, or just run an application that needs mono? What application are you trying to run?19:30
CaerdwynTJ-: it's ok, it's reinstalled, saying "ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot". Is this a good thing?19:30
TJ-Caerdwyn: That explains why, with ntfs-3g package installed, you saw the ntfscluster help and when the package was uninstalled you got a shared-library missing error19:30
TJ-Caerdwyn: That is fine19:30
John_John_Rory: first of all thanks for trying to help cause i am very serious about it19:31
CaerdwynTJ-: awesome... Let me reboot and see if this all disappears... brb19:31
nikolamOerHeks, NO it is not displayed. "open source" is not the license. You are wrong.19:31
TJ-Caerdwyn: Now, when you run "strings /sbin/killal5 /bin/pidof | grep ntfs" you shouldn't get any output19:31
John_John_my need is to run asp.net 4.0 applications19:31
TJ-Caerdwyn: Now, when you run "strings /sbin/killall5 /bin/pidof | grep ntfs" you shouldn't get any output19:31
PiciOerHeks: nikolam means it should display "GPL v2" or "MIT" or whatever19:32
John_John_i have no problem to develop in windows(mono) if that's better.19:32
nikolamPici, yes and with link to actually reading license before installing. And that also goes for closed applications.19:32
John_John_so to recap: only asp.net. and 4.0 is a must.19:32
nikolambut it is best to report bug/rfe and discuss on mailing list, anyways19:33
John_John_and to run in linux preferably ubuntu but not a must19:33
OerHeksPici, i see, that may be a valid point to do a bugreport19:33
OerHeksnikolam, if you do, i would love to confirm this bug, it will speed up19:34
CaerdwynTJ-: I've got to say, you sir are a life saver. It worked just as expected. Thank you SO much for all your help, I really appreciate it! :)19:34
John_John_Rory: are you still there ?19:34
CaerdwynYou too, tyler_d :)19:34
TJ-Caerdwyn: The question is, how did that happen? The only way I can think...19:34
CaerdwynTJ-: Honestly, I have no clue.19:34
nikolamOK OerHeks  but would also generate a lot of work to link it all to present apps et.19:35
TJ-Caerdwyn: ... is that there was a file-system error at some point and somehow the same inodes (belonging to "/bin/ntfscluster") were used for "/sbin/killall5" and "/bin/pidof"19:35
RoryJohn_John_: Sorry, yes19:35
John_John_Rory: it's ok did you hear what i asked ?19:35
RoryJohn_John_: You should just install the package "mono-complete"19:35
TJ-Caerdwyn: If so, that raises the potential that other files are similarly affected but much harder to detect19:36
OerHeksnikolam, i think all you need is to mention 3 apps, to prove your point, as what i would do.19:36
RoryJohn_John_: I'm pretty sure that includes Mono 2.10.something19:36
nikolamok OerHeks19:36
John_John_Rory: ok but from google i saw that it includes version 2.10.19:36
John_John_Rory: that's right. but now there is version 3.2 i think19:37
CaerdwynTJ-: ok, so what should I do about this? Schedule the machine to run an fsck on the next reboot to check and make sure everything is in tact? If not, how would I go about fixing this?19:37
John_John_Rory: does 2.10 support asp.net 4.0 ?19:37
John_John_Rory: i need that information badly19:37
CaerdwynTJ-: I don't know of a command like windows' "sfc /scannow" that checks and repairs corrupted system files...19:37
RoryJohn_John_: Do you have 64-bit Ubuntu? If so, there's a third-party PPA here which has a number of upvotes on StackOverflow, which provides a version of Mono 3.2. Only Mono 3.0 and up supports asp.net 4.x. The link is here http://stackoverflow.com/a/13384233/73625319:39
Rory!ppa | John_John_19:39
ubottuJohn_John_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:39
TJ-Caerdwyn: Try this, don't worry about "No such ..." messages, but you should only see "/bin/ntfscluster" ... "sudo find / -type f -samefile /bin/ntfscluster"19:39
fla_hello. lap_1 connects to ext_display and shows good colors on lap_1_display BUT lacks red color on ext_display. lap_2 shows good colors on both displays (lap_2_display and ext_display). so is it possible that hardware on lap_1 can send color red to lap_1_display but not ext_display? if not, how can i fix software color issue? thanks! :)19:39
Roryfla_: Is it possible the port on lap_1 is faulty?19:40
Roryfla_: It's more likely than a weird software issue19:40
CaerdwynTJ-: yes, very first line is "/bin/ntfscluster", but now it mounted and is scanning my 2tb and 500gb external hard disks...oh god, this'll take forever19:40
LumberJackTeamwhat fs ?19:40
geniifla_: You used the same cable both times on ext_display ?19:41
TJ-Caerdwyn: It shouldn't automount anything that isn't already mounted. You can break out (Ctrl+C) and unmount those first19:41
CaerdwynTJ-: errr, not automount, rather, it's scanning all mounted drives (apparently this machine is automounting all connected devices on boot)19:41
LumberJackTeambtrf doesn't need fsck19:42
LumberJackTeamntfs?19:42
rogerioalguém sabe como fazer funcionar o impressora epson l355 no ubuntu 13.10?19:42
fla_Rory: ok, so maybe the VGA port itself isn't working on pin 3 for example?19:42
TJ-Caerdwyn: Yes... You can break out (Ctrl+C) and then do "sudo umount /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdb1" and then re-run the command19:43
genii!es | rogerio19:43
ubotturogerio: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:43
CaerdwynTJ-: It finished. Very first result was /bin/ntfscluster, then 5 "No such file or directory" lines, so it appears all is well...19:43
fla_i wonder if i can switch VGA port from lap_2 to lap_1?19:43
TJ-Caerdwyn: The file-systems are automounted by your log-in process when the USB devices are detected - you can tell by the fact they are mounted to directories under "/media/edward/"19:43
* Caerdwyn nods19:44
CaerdwynYep, they're all there.19:44
TJ-Caerdwyn: OK, looks like you may be OK. If you get any other unexpected file-system related issues, I'd suggest the cause is previous file-system corruption. Reinstalling affected packages should sort it out.19:44
LumberJackTeamme frowns at automount19:44
CaerdwynTJ-: Awesome! Thank you again for everything :)19:45
TJ-Caerdwyn: You're welcome; it was a very *interesting* scenario!19:45
Caerdwyn..yes, it was :P19:45
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Roryfla_: Exactly. If you have another external monitor to try, you could tell straight away19:46
LumberJackTeam#ubuntu the land of make belive19:46
TJ-!ot | LumberJackTeam19:46
ubottuLumberJackTeam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:46
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LumberJackTeamare there any gpt related tools?19:47
OerHeksgdisk19:48
TJ-LumberJackTeam: "apt-cache search gpt"19:48
c4iffTrying to install Adobe via the instructions listed here http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/ubuntu-13-10-quick-tip-install-adobe-reader/,  still getting an error regarding libstdc++ being 64 bit though19:50
LumberJackTeamwho still uses adobe reader?19:51
LumberJackTeamff now supports pdf19:51
c4iffLumberJackTeam: I have a specific requirement to use Adobe19:52
fla_Rory: sadly i have identical laptops (with different hardware components non-functional on each) but one ext_display. so here's another question, under SystemSettings > Color, is there anything i can do there to diagnose and/or remedy?19:52
FiremanEdLumberJackTeam: Be helpful, not critical :)19:53
Roryfla_: I wouldn't really know where to start diagnosing a software issue19:54
davidfetter_disqhello19:54
davidfetter_disqhas anybody got tips on how to run multiple slony (logical replication system for PostgreSQL) clusters from one machine?19:54
davidfetter_disqthere's already some very nice wrappers for multiple instances of PostgreSQL itself. i was wondering whether there's something analogous to this for that replication system19:55
FiremanEdc4iff: Did you check to see if it was in the repositories yet, that article was from September of last year19:56
fla_Rory: ok, well thanks for VGA port idea and if you know how to patch a BIOS so it accepts a new wireless card on POST, let me know. thanks again19:58
Picidavidfetter_disq: You might want to ask in #postgresql as well, if you dont get any answer here.19:58
davidfetter_disqPici, this is a pretty distro-specific thing, and i'm a regular over there :)19:59
joshtekmobileWhy would screen randomly close out?19:59
klomptrying to follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP19:59
klompmy settings don't match the Virtual Hosts section19:59
klompBy default, there is one site available called 000-default. FALSE20:00
villbonsoir20:00
Picidavidfetter_disq: you might want #ubuntu-server then too :)20:01
iamgiri /msg NickServ identify 98655936120:01
klompthe default: sites-available/default20:01
klompthe site-enabled are 000-default20:02
zykotick9iamgiri: time to change your password20:02
iamgirizykotick9: yes20:02
geniiiamgiri: and possibly change your phone number20:02
iamgirigenii: :(20:02
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iamgiriHey guys my ubuntu 12.04 freezes often,  I can move my mouse. My keyboard not working too. I'm having this headache for more than 5 months. Can someone he me to overcome this issue? I have to restart my PC for each freeze20:08
iamgiriTypo: I can't move my mouse20:08
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naturalmicro emergency, i disabled work spaces in my unity-tweak, and i lost everything on my desktop. can someone please help me out?20:10
darthanubisnatural, you should not have lost everything from that action alone.20:11
naturali was trying to get hotcorners to work, and the last thing i did was disable workspaces then renable it but everything went away, all i have is right click, and termina from cntrl alt 't' thats how i got here.20:12
naturaldo you know how to run ubuntu-tweak from terminal?20:13
SonikkuAmericanatural: [ ubuntu-tweak ]20:13
naturalwith the brackets?20:13
SonikkuAmericaNo20:13
naturalcommand not found20:13
SonikkuAmerica(The [ ] are just indicative of the fact that it's in terminal)20:14
SonikkuAmericanatural: Did you install it?20:14
Seveasnatural: open /home/YOURLOGIN/Desktop in the file browser. Your files should still be there :)20:14
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naturalthanks20:14
Seveasisn't it unity-tweak or unity-tweak-tool?20:14
Seveasor just type 'u' (no quotes) and us <tab> to tab complete :)20:15
naturalwhen i minimize the terminal window, it disappears, and i dont know how to get it back. my unity bar is gone too.20:15
roasted_Question - I removed the icon in my Unity launcher for external drives. How do I get them back?20:15
naturalno tab complete20:16
ZooklubbaUbuntu + Huawei E398 == failure? I cant get network-manager to show me the mobile broadband option20:17
naturalso no way to just get my desktop back?20:17
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mikehaas763Hi, this isn't ubuntu or even linux specific but #opensource only has 15 people in it. I figured this is probably a good place. Is there any generic forms out there that can be used in a business to make requests to the business to release a library to open source? We're trying to come up with a standard operating procedure20:18
chemist^natural, just get your desktop back?20:19
chemist^mikehaas763, ##linux20:19
mikehaas763chemist^, good idea20:19
alexxa20I need to remove some module. I use this command: sudo modprobe -r rt2x00pci. It wont work. Fatal: Module ... is still in use.20:20
alexxa20It's for wifi20:20
alexxa20I tried turning off wifi, still cant remove module20:20
Zooklubbahow the fawk do I get Huawei E398 (usb modem) to work :S20:20
bekksalexxa20: lsmod shows you which modules stull use that module in question.20:21
chemist^!details | Zooklubba20:21
ubottuZooklubba: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:21
Zooklubbachemist^: As in, it's not working (not showing, just like I already have written) in network manager. It's visible using lsusb20:21
ZooklubbaI got usb_modeswitch on the computer, I dont have vwdial tho20:22
alexxa20so, when I find which module uses this one, what shall I do?20:23
naturalchemist^, got it, watched a vid by quidsup, this guy is my fav, and i had to run ccsm and enable unity plugin, thanks20:23
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bekksalexxa20: unload the modules, then unload the module in question.20:23
chemist^Zooklubba, have you tryed "making a new connection" and there choosing mobile broadband?20:23
Zooklubbayep20:23
Zooklubbaso many times20:23
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alexxa20unloading is done via this command: modprobe -r ?20:24
chemist^Zooklubba, is the device working on other machines?20:24
bekksalexxa20: or just rmmod20:24
Zooklubbayes20:24
alexxa20thanks20:24
alexxa20done20:25
chemist^Zooklubba, you may need to install additional drivers in order to get that device to work in ubuntu, i honestly don't know if it's supported20:25
alexxa20I'm following one instruction from launchpad (it's about fixing non-working wifi) :)20:25
chemist^you could try installing windows drivers, if you can't find linux20:25
chemist^with ndiswrapper or smth like that20:25
alexxa20so removing the module is the one middle step20:25
Zooklubbachemist^: My googlefu obviously shows that people have managed to do it with just modprobe/usb_modeswitch. so I have no clue20:26
ZooklubbaI had another ZTE modem which I tried. That randomly came up in nm-applet after like 5-10 kills on modem-manager20:26
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JohnnyLLets say I wanted to distribute a linux app but my app is dependent on cgroups, how would I easily enable my user to use my app?20:28
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bekksJohnnyL: You cant. cgroups depend on kernel support, too.20:29
chemist^Zooklubba, these devices can be tricky i know..20:29
JohnnyLbekks: i am leaving out <2.620:30
chemist^Zooklubba, have little experience with them...i usually use my cell phone if i want to make a mobile-internet connection on my laptop20:30
Zooklubbachemist^: so close to just give up and move to windows. Getting quite mad at all this pieces of...20:30
bekksJohnnyL: Even then it may not be enabled in the kernel.20:30
JohnnyLog right20:30
JohnnyLoh right20:30
chemist^Zooklubba, does windows require driver installation?20:30
chemist^have you checked rfkill?20:31
Zooklubbachemist^: at least they (huawei or my carrier) ship the drivers20:31
chemist^maybe it's disabled20:31
Zooklubbachemist^: what should I do then. rfkill list doesnt show shit20:32
JohnnyLbekks, lets say cgroups can work with the kernel. how do I tell and enable my user to install it?20:32
bekksJohnnyL: The user has to have root privileges.20:33
Zooklubbachemist^ what should I do/type in w/ rfkill. idfi20:36
Zooklubbaidgi20:36
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chemist^Zooklubba, does lshw show the device?20:38
chemist^have you checked dmesg when you plugged in the device?20:38
Xuisce_hi all20:38
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uporotXuisce_: hi20:40
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Xuisce_hey there20:40
Zooklubbachemist^: for instance dmesg says usb 3-13: GSM modem 1-port converter now attached to ttyUSB020:41
tyler_dohai20:41
Zooklubbacdc_ncm 3-13:1.1 wwan0 register blablabla mobile broadband network device20:41
chemist^Zooklubba, that means it's there, recognized20:41
xanguaHow can I encrypt my home after installing ubuntu? would encryot my home affects the performance?20:42
chemist^xangua, why would encrypted folders affect performance? i don't think so20:42
Zooklubbachemist^: running usb modeswitch it says for instance Looking for active driver... No driver found. EIther detached before or never attached.20:43
Zooklubbasetting up communication with interface 020:43
xanguachemist^: how could I encrypt my home after installing ubuntu if I did not choopse the option during install then¿20:43
Xuisce_hm20:44
Xuisce_hi20:44
xanguachemist^: And I mean performance regarding battery life on a notebook20:44
chemist^xangua, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144916820:44
bs0dHello. I am trying to run a script from the /etc/rc.local, but it does not get started before login.20:45
bs0dIt does not get started at all20:45
bs0dI would appreciate if comeone could point me to what am I missing20:45
bekksbs0d: How did you enter it in rc.local?20:45
bs0dbekks: it was suggested on a forum http://askubuntu.com/questions/9382/how-can-i-configure-a-service-to-run-at-startup/9384#938420:46
TJ-bs0d: Ensure the command is *before* the final "exit 0" command in "/etc/rc.local"20:46
Blueeri've installed the newest amd beta display driver (14.1). the ubuntu loginscreen looks 100% ok, but when i login it shows only the desktop+mouse. it don't shows the taskbar, menus and so on.20:47
Blueerhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears20:47
Blueerthis doesn'T helps. but the unity plugin and all other plugins are not loaded20:47
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Blueerif i load the unity plugin within the ccsm and all req. plugins it doesn't change anythink.20:48
bs0dhmmm same20:49
compdocBlueer, thats usually a sign its broken. can you disable the driver?20:49
bs0dmay it be because my script contains header #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh?20:49
TJ-bs0d: The header won't matter if you call the script with "sh /path/to/script" *but* if the script uses bash-specific syntax then it will likely fail to work from sh.20:51
bs0dTJ-: yes, I am correcting it right now20:52
Zooklubbachemist^: syslog shows me failed to organize modem ports (0) Failed to find primary port20:53
Zooklubbafor modem-manager20:53
g0twighey there20:54
g0twigI did read this20:55
g0twighttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU5OTQ20:55
g0twigWhat are "ubuntu developers"?20:55
g0twigI am/was an Ubuntu developer, I have an official Ubuntu Mail Adress, and I am Ubuntu Member20:55
Picig0twig: reply to the mailing list and ask them.20:56
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bs0dTJ-: I have corrected the script so that it is run with sh, but it still does not get executed at all. I expect it to run before login actually.21:00
bekksbs0d: USe /bin/sh in rc.local, not just sh21:01
bs0dbekks: Oh, you forsee my mistakes. Thanks for the hint!21:01
bs0dbekks: I was really missing /bin/sh21:02
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bs0dstill no luck :(21:05
Xuisce_hi bs0d21:05
TJ-bs0d: How do you know the script isn't executed? Is it stamping a file when it runs so you know? e.g. 2nd line "touch /tmp/i-have-run"  ?21:06
Exp0surewhat the problem?21:06
lickalottbs0d, what are you trying to accomplish?21:07
TJ-bs0d: most rc.local script issues are caused by expecting certain environment variables to exist, that don't21:07
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bs0dTJ-: it asks for user input. And I supposed that it should wait for it, but the system boots into graphical interface and I get no script output21:07
ImTheDoctorWhoo-hai!21:08
ImTheDoctorWhoi have some problems with ubuntu21:08
ImTheDoctorWhocan anyone help me?21:08
bs0dlickalott: I want to ask the user to provide input once before the login prompt. The script asks for user input but does not get executed by rc.local for some reason21:08
GivenToCodehi all i am in unchartered waters, i am trying to remote desktop to an ubuntu 12.04 host running vncserver via remmina21:09
GivenToCodeI am able to connect but i am not able to start a bash shell21:09
ImTheDoctorWhoQualcuno può aiutarmi?21:09
GivenToCodei can start other applications like the clock, but selected bash, dash or sh does nothing21:09
compdocnot sure what remmina is, but what about other vnc clients?21:09
ImTheDoctorWhoJ #ubuntu-it21:10
GivenToCodecompdoc, havent tried any, but itd be surprising if it were the client21:11
GivenToCodei can basically run every application except for bash21:11
ImTheDoctorWhoWhy i can't format the removable device?21:12
compdocGivenToCode, the /etc/passwd file defines if a user has bash or just what shell is assigned. but its dangerous to edit21:12
GivenToCodecompdoc, i am root and shell is defined as /bin/bash21:13
compdocGivenToCode, theres a special vi command to edit the file that helps keep you out of trouble21:13
iattazzahello21:13
Voyagepostgres@sync-pc:/home/syncsys$ psql postgres < '/tmp/crawler-full.sql'21:13
Voyagebash: /tmp/crawler-full.sql: Permission denied21:13
compdocyou enabled root?21:13
compdocgave it a password, I mean21:13
Voyagesory?21:13
GivenToCodecompdoc, i am root yes21:13
lickalottbs0d, so you want it to be a "startup" script?21:22
lickalottthrow it in /etc/init.d and softlink it (with +x permissions) to /etc/rc2.d21:23
Xuisce_hi lickalott21:24
lickalottcompdoc, remmina is the built-in RDP/SSH/VNC client in ubuntu.21:24
compdoclickalott, ah. I always connect to ubuntu, but rarely connect from it21:25
Xuisce_hi21:25
lickalottGivenToCode,  explain your issue in greater detail please.  All's I got was that you can successfully log into/onto the ubuntu rig via VNC.  Where is the bash shell not "starting" on your host machine or your VNC machien?21:25
lickalotthello Xuisce_21:25
TJ-bs0d: You can't take user input from rc.local unless you "plymouth quit" first, as plymouth has the console21:26
lickalottI used to be big on putty, but since I found remmina, I've been using that.21:26
lickalottwhats your "end game" bs0d  maybe we can come up with better options for you21:27
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bootybootshi my laptop can connect to my router wirelessly fine, but not to the internet and i'm not sure why21:28
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bootybootsother devices in my house can connect to internet wirelessly no problem however not this one21:28
TJ-GivenToCode: I'd suspect a syntax error in one of the log-in scripts (/etc/profile, ~/.profile, etc.)21:29
bootybootsi have a small paste bin of the problem http://pastebin.ca/263822521:29
lickalottbootyboots, take your router of out the mix and see what the result is.21:29
VampireCatbootyboots?21:29
compdocbootyboots, make sure you define a gateway and a dns server21:29
hdonhi all :) an application changed my video mode and did not change it back when i exited. is there a simple command to adjust my display mode?21:29
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VampireCatWhat?21:30
Ubuntu_UserI am trying to install Ubuntu on Toshiba Satellite laptop. Ubuntu live USB doesn't boot with secure boot disabled but boots when it is enabled.21:30
Ubuntu_UserIs there any reason why it does that?21:30
lickalotthdon,   settings > displays > then change the resolution21:30
hdonlickalott, thanks... i wish there were a simpler way though!21:31
GivenToCodeTJ-, lickalott yea I think it's all new to me. Basically when i connect with remmina i get a gui, if i right click i get a menu, from that menu i can select applications, from that menu i can select shells, with a list of bash, dash or sh21:31
GivenToCodeif i click on any of them, nothing happens21:31
bootybootscompdoc, the router handles dhcp and i think that is supposed to assign the devices it (it must for the working devices)?  would this be a router change or on my laptop21:31
GivenToCodeand i can see no new processes are started21:31
TJ-bootyboots: can you "ping -nc 5 8.8.8.8" ?21:31
compdocbootyboots, yes, it should with dhcp, but it is a setting that can get messed uo21:31
compdocup21:31
bootybootsTJ-, yes that works, however i cannot ping other sites like google or anything else21:32
TJ-bootyboots: OK, your problem is with the DNS resolver then21:32
lickalottthat's the google dns servers bootyboots21:32
compdocbootyboots, can you ping 74.125.192.10521:32
TJ-bootyboots: "cat /etc/resolv.conf"21:32
bastolhey gang. - got me a confusion - i am not used to mounting/handingling drives/partitions on linux without gparted.. and want to learn the console commands and understanding what i am looking at.. anyone want to  help me out in a pvt chat ?21:32
compdoc74.125.192.105 is google21:32
aspire_bastol: i learned that on the archlinux beginners guide21:33
bs0dlickalott: to create a script in init.d is the only option? Why it will not work from rc.local?21:33
bastolit looks like i have a lvm but no lvm tools - fresh install of ubuntu server21:33
lickalottGivenToCode, try using the actual VNC app for ubuntu and see if anything changes.  I like remmina, but I've had some issues with funtionality in the past.21:33
aspire_theres a section where u partitionate the hd21:33
TJ-bs0d: You can't take user input from rc.local unless you "plymouth quit" first, as plymouth has the console21:33
lickalottnot the only option bs0d but one that I can attest to working21:33
lickalottbastol, sudo apt-get install lvm221:34
bastolaspire  i just need some confirmations.21:34
bs0dlet me give it a try21:34
bastoli am nervous about messing with partitions on  a running system21:34
bs0dcould you please provide some good example of a script inside init.d?21:34
hdonlickalott, i used xrandr -size 0 and it gave me exactly what i wanted :)21:34
bastollickalot - but i dont think i need lvm i jsut ahve a partition lablelld lvm -  i dont think its being used21:34
bootybootsTJ-, you're the man thanks the nameserver line was incorrect (???) so i changed it to my router and it works21:35
bootybootshowever i'm curious why it wasnt handled at dhcp time21:35
bootybootscompdoc, yes it works now21:35
lickalottbastol, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3596/what-is-lvm-and-what-is-it-used-for21:35
lickalottnice hdon21:36
bastollickalott  yes i have used google .21:36
lickalotti don't understand your question/issue.21:36
TJ-bootyboots: "/etc/resolv.conf" usually points to "127.0.1.1" which has an instance of dnsmasq running in it. If dnsmasq wasn't running that'd cause a problem :)21:37
bastolpm me. and i will give the captures to clarify .. it will be quick i promise21:37
TJ-!pm | bastol21:37
ubottubastol: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.21:37
bastol$ sudo parted -l Model: ATA ST380815AS (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos  Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags  1      1049kB  256MB   255MB   primary   ext4            boot  2      257MB   80.0GB  79.7GB  extended  5      257MB   46.5GB  46.2GB  logical                   lvm  6      46.5GB  76.8GB  30.3GB  logical   ext4  7      76.8GB  80.0GB  318321:38
TJ-!pastebin | bastol21:39
ubottubastol: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:39
bastolhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6911499/21:40
bgardnerI think bastol is trying to find fdisk or cfdisk, based on the questions asked, although I may be wrong.21:40
lickalottbs0d, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691148921:40
lickalottbastol, you want your 46GB back?21:41
DreamIf I am installing Ubuntu server with a raid controller, should I use lvm as well?21:41
bootybootsthat is good info TJ- thanks.  I'm not sure how dnsmasq works from there21:41
bootybootsthough21:42
bs0dlickalott: As far as I can see there are services in /etc/init.d which get started and stopped. But I need to run my script unconditionally only once after bootup and the script runs and exists immediately.21:42
bs0dlickalott: is this the right place to store my script?21:42
dveimcan i write in crontab smth like @reboot opera to start it every reboot?21:42
dveimsomehow it doesn't work21:42
bastollets try that agian  - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911508/   so i try to use lvm commands and its not installed . so how can i have an lvm  from a clean install of ubuntu 13.10  - my intention is to mount the 3TB as /data  and extend swap to double. - and add the spare  space on sda5 to be used for the web server21:42
bastoland i knwo little about mounting but am rusty and dont want to fark it up ..21:43
lickalottyou can dump it into rc2.d directly.  I usually write in start, stop and restart cases in my scripts so i leave them in init.d21:43
TJ-bootyboots: If the interfaces are managed by Network Manager, it has a private instance running that receives the DHCP options when the interface comes up, including the upstream nameserver list21:43
lickalottyou chose lvm on install bastol21:43
lickalottif this is a fresh install and you don't want lvm, the easiest thing to do would be reinstall with "standard partitions"21:43
bastolyes . it was a default. - which is why i am confused no lvm tools are installed and  where that space is mounted21:43
JohnnyLdo many linux users have cgroups support 'baked' in?21:44
DreamCould someone help me out please? Just a quick question21:44
lickalottLVM is just a large volume manager.  to modify or create other LVM volumes (i.e. you add a new disk) you'll need the lvm2 package21:44
lickalottDream, just ask21:44
DreamI did21:44
DreamNo one noticed21:44
bootybootswow, i'm glad people like you are in here TJ- LOL21:44
lickalottlol21:44
lickalottwhere21:44
bootybootsthanks again21:44
lickalottoh21:45
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DreamI'm installing on a server with a raid controller21:45
bootybootsadding you to my fav list for freenode21:45
DreamTrying to figure out if I need lvm or not21:45
bastolso its the partition marked LVM actually in use somewhere  ?  i mean this is a sanity check21:45
lickalottpersonal preference imho Dream .  Do you plan on adding more drives later21:45
TJ-Dream: If you want flexibility, ability to create snapshots for back-up, need for creating/shrinking/extending file-systems: YES21:46
DreamNo, its a raid 5 in full use.21:46
YellowGTOHey guys having a little trouble with samba. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipor3iv6mfwxm6g/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.45.38.png21:46
YellowGTOConfig https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwdif72coy86wrc/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.46.01.png21:46
lickalottbastol, by "in use" you mean used by the filesystem?21:46
bastollickalott as in space  that is accessable under the current config21:46
DreamSo essentially it's a LAMP server running server edition ubuntu21:46
DreamDoes lvm manage virtual file space?21:47
lickalottyou could use it.  I personally would rather have that 46 GB allocated to a larger chunk for file storage and stuff but that's me21:47
gordonjcpDream: no21:47
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gordonjcpDream: you know how you can set up logical partitions to have more than four partitions on a disk?21:47
bastollickalott - so its not actually being used now its more like 'reserved' for a lvm ?21:47
lickalotttrue21:47
TJ-bastol: try "sudo pvs /dev/sda5" .. you'd expect something like "  /dev/sda5 <VG_NAME> lvm2 a--  25.29g 16.29g"21:47
Dreamyeah21:48
gordonjcpDream: LVM is kind of like that, except you can create partitions any time you like, and even resize them21:48
ice9Cinnamon desktop always crashes!21:48
gordonjcpDream: you create one hoofing great partition and make that be all LVM21:48
gordonjcpDream: then within that you carve up logical volumes21:48
bastolsudo: pvs: command not found21:48
lickalottyou know how with windows 7 they introduced the new partition magic equivilent? bastol, Dream ?21:48
TJ-bastol: you were told earlier, you need to install the package "sudo apt-get install lvm2"21:48
lickalottthat's basically LVM21:48
DreamOk, that makes sense. Wheras without LVM I would have to use something like g parted on the virtual disk21:48
gordonjcpDream: these then have a path like /dev/bigstackofvolumes/mp3s, /dev/bigstackofvolumes/piratedvideos etc etc21:49
bastoltj-  yes but if i odnt need it then why shoudl i install it .21:49
gordonjcpwhatever you've got in the Volume Group called "bigstackofvolumes"21:49
bastoltj - i am tryign to first determin if its neccisary /21:49
TJ-bastol: You've got a partition apparently with an LVM structure inside, you need the tools to check that!21:50
DreamSo when I set up my LAMP stack I would just need to point it to the path /dev/volumex/www21:50
TJ-bastol: the partition may just be marked as an LVM type. You could try "sudo blkid /dev/sda5" that should show if an LVM structure is recognised21:50
bastoltj - but if its tehre then i would have to have the tools for the os to read it already wouldnt i or it couldnt be mounted/ used.... if it snot used then i can repartition that section and  use it without an lvm ?21:50
ice9Cinnamon desktop always crashes on Ubuntu when opening any popup menu like the main menu21:51
bastoltj - sudo blkid command nets no results/information21:51
jhutchinsgordonjcp: Of course, you can create partitions any time you like, and resize them without LVM, it just takes fewer steps.21:53
bastolping/ did my net crap out or did suddenly everyone die ?21:57
Picibastol: the latter21:57
bastolahh  okay so its not jsut me  :P21:58
Picilos angeles /7021:58
Picioops21:58
she_dyedaHA so you're the guy controlling the weather21:59
lickalottbastol, sudo blkid21:59
lickalottleave out the /sda21:59
TJ-bastol: Then it is likely the partition was simply given the lvm type, but not assigned as a physical volume by lvm21:59
bastolsda5 is not listed with sudo blkid22:00
bastolso then i dont need lvm and i can jsut reclaim it withotu busting something...22:00
lickalotti say gparted that junk and re-assign it to another unused partition.22:00
lickalottdo it bastol22:01
fulanitohi all22:01
Ubuntu_UserIs there any reason why Ubuntu doesn't boot with secure boot disabled? It boots if secure boot is enabled or if i set BIOS to CSM mode.22:01
fulanitoI am having troubles adding a certificate to apache22:01
fulanitoin ubuntu 12.0422:01
lickalottUbuntu_User, newer laptop?22:01
fulanitoserver, ubuntu user22:02
fulanito[Mon Feb 10 20:11:13 2014] [warn] Init: Name-based SSL virtual hosts only work for clients with TLS server name indication support (RFC 4366)22:02
fulanito[Mon Feb 10 20:11:13 2014] [warn] Init: Name-based SSL virtual hosts only work for clients with TLS server name indication support (RFC 4366)22:02
fulanito[Mon Feb 10 20:11:13 2014] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.22 OpenSSL/1.0.1 configured -- resuming normal operation22:02
Ubuntu_Userlickalott, Yes. Toshiba Satellite. Has Windows 8 preinstalled.22:02
hitsujiTMO!paste | fulanito22:02
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lickalottprob something with UEFI bios22:02
TJ-fulanito: what is the problem, exactly?22:02
bs0dI guess I have made an init.d script .. hope it is ok to ask for user input from rc2 script22:03
fulanitohttp://pastebin.com/Ewb2S1fE22:03
fulanitoI added a certificate to apache222:03
TJ-fulanito: I don't see a problem22:03
bs0dah .. its same .. the script didn't work22:03
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Ubuntu_Userlickalott, Ubuntu live cd does boot with secure boot enabled. But when I disable it fails. Which seems weird to me. On CSM mode Windows 8 boot fails.22:03
fulanitobut the brosers says that no script has been added22:04
TJ-Ubuntu_User: How, precisely, does it fail?22:04
bs0dlickalott: I have created a script asking for user input in /etc/init.d and created a symlink to it in /etc/rc2.d, but still the script did not work. Any ideas?22:04
TJ-fulanito: As the apache warning tells you, name-based TLS/SSL requires browsers with TLS-SNI support22:04
she_dyedisnt plymouth running at that point22:04
Voyagehi22:04
Voyagehow to start a screen by giving a custom name  to and and how to resume it after wards?22:05
kevinb_Hello, how can I use upstart to ensure a script runs on shutdown that needs to post http requests to a different host runs and finishes before the network is shutdown ?22:05
fulanitohow to I enable that on browsers?22:05
TJ-bs0d: As I said earlier, twice:  You can't take user input from rc.local unless you "plymouth quit" first, as plymouth has the console22:05
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, I get to initial loader where I can select Try or Install ubuntu. If I select either one of them. It just shows a blank screen.22:05
TJ-fulanito: You can't, either they have support, or they don't22:05
bs0dTJ-: This time I have put my script it rc2.d, not rc.local22:06
hitsujiTMOfulanito: thats just a warning. If a user what has a web client that doesn't support TSL, the web server will end up serving the "default" ssl site. Not much to worry about since there's very very few web browsers that don't support TLS22:06
TJ-Ubuntu_User: OK, that could be a video card mode issue. I suspect the "nomodeset" option is required on the kernel start-up line in the CD... I think on the live ISO you can press a key (F6?) to select advanced options, and add that22:06
TJ-bs0d: no difference22:06
TJ-bs0d: If plymouth has the console you can't use it22:06
bs0dTJ-: what would be the proper place for such a script? I need to invoke it before login prompt after boot. Is this at all possible?22:07
fulanitohitsujiTMO: can you try www.bluemessaging.com22:07
TJ-bs0d: I've told you several times now. "plymouth quit" then do your console input routine.22:07
Voyagehow to start a GNU screen by giving a custom name  to and and how to resume it after wards?22:08
bastolokay one more question  - since google has many conflicting results  stating false positive rootkits and  then not -- whats yoru opinion  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911649/22:09
hitsujiTMOfulanito: the site works. but no response from the https if thats what you want to know. have you opened the port?22:09
TJ-fulanito: If you're expecting HTTPS to work, you'll need to open port 443 in the firewall22:09
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, I only get the GRUB boot loader. It doesn't let me press any function keys. I can do edit the command before booting.22:09
Beldarbastol, maverick, realy?22:10
hitsujiTMOVoyage: screen -S sessionname                         ctrl + a, d      to detach,     screen -r sessionname    to reattach that session22:10
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, what is the command line parameter? is it --nomodeset ?22:10
bastolwhats wrong  with mavericks22:10
TJ-Ubuntu_User: I thought the Try/Install option of the Live ISO had a hot-key for setting advanced options22:11
Beldarbastol, it is way past end of life, install 12.04 or 13.10.22:11
TJ-Ubuntu_User: just "nomodeset"22:11
bs0dTJ-: Where should I invoke plymouth quit command? I tried to invoke it in the beginning of the script, but the script still did not work22:11
VoyagehitsujiTMO,  thanks!22:11
TJ-bs0d: Have you confirmed yet that your script actually gets called? Without that, the rest is pointless22:11
bastolmavericks - OSX not maverick linux22:12
bs0dTJ-: let me check it out22:12
ZiberWhat is wicd, exactly? All I've found is that it's an "equivalent (sometimes higher regarded) to network-manager".22:12
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, I get a screen similar to this http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png22:12
bastolbeldar - used a mac to burn the iso - not a old linux flavor.22:12
hitsujiTMOZiber: its a cli wireless adapter manager22:12
ZiberI'm trying to spoof my mac address at bootup. Is there a way I can do that with network-manager, since I'm more familiar with it?22:13
TJ-Ubuntu_User: Is that the server install? Which ubuntu release is it?22:13
romainl*/msg NickServ IDENTIFY romainl pme22:14
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, Desktop. Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS22:14
bs0dTJ-: yes, it gets invoked. I checked it by creating an empty file from the script22:14
ZiberThat's like the 10th person I've seen recently fail to privately identify to Nickserv...22:14
bastoli did install 13.10 . was that not listed inteh paste ?22:15
TJ-Ubuntu_User: Strange, I thought the desktop installer had a more graphical start-up than that! OK, you should be able to press 'e' on one of those options to 'e'dit it, then move the cursor to the end of the line beginning "linux..." and add " nomodeset" then press Ctrl+X (or F10) to execute it22:15
bs0dTJ-: so the issue remains that the script gets called, (and maybe it even asks for user input), but does not wait for one22:15
TJ-bs0d: OK, so the script runs but your commands fail. I'd bet it is because you're expecting the environment to contain values that it doesn't, such as relying on the PATH to be fully set, instead of calling commands by their absolute path-names22:16
ZiberCan I use /etc/network/interfaces to manage my wireless/wired connection, but network-manager to manage my VPN?22:16
TJ-Ziber: You could22:16
ZiberHow might I do that?22:17
bs0dTJ-: right! I will correct this. Thanks!22:17
fulanitoTJ-: many thanks\22:17
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fulanitoI make it works22:17
TJ-Ziber: Put the appropriate settings in the appropriate configuration locations. You'd have to manually start the VPN since NM wouldn't be able to do any automatic start based on another interface22:18
TJ-fulanito: :)22:18
TJ-fulanito: for reference, if you ever need to test TLS/SSL: "openssl s_client -connect bluemessaging.com:443"22:18
ZiberTJ-: So I have lines for wlan0 and eth0 in my network interfaces file, nm will know not to touch those?22:18
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, Still  pretty much the same screen. added it to the end of the line starting with linux.22:18
bs0dTJ-: if I am not mistaken, I need to provide full paths for the following commands: cat echo read exit22:19
TJ-Ziber: correct, NM will *usually* (subject to its configuration) ignore any interfaces mentioned in "interfaces"22:19
TJ-bs0d: "echo read exit" should be shell built-ins22:19
TJ-bs0d: If it isn't a PATH issue, then you need to look at what other assumptions your script makes about the environment22:20
bgardner/quit/quit22:20
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bgardner>.< Sorry22:20
bs0dTJ-: but a simple script like read -p "Enter something" var should work as it does not make any assumptions at all22:21
TJ-Ubuntu_User: Hmm, try editing the line again and also add "debug" and *remove* "quiet" and "splash" ... that should cause the kernel to spew lots of useful messages that indicate where the problem starts22:21
bastolso u guys think this is a false postive ? ( note isntalled 13.10 server  and  used a mac osx maverics to burn the iso ) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911649/22:22
TJ-bs0d: Yes, that  should. In the past when I've had issues like this I've added 'debug' echos to the script in between every command, so I can look at a log-file and know for sure where it is stopping22:23
bs0dTJ-: even this simple script did not ask for input nor wait for it :(22:23
bs0dTJ-: something really weird is going on22:24
TJ-bs0d: is that simple script stopping plymouth?22:25
ZiberSo uh. That was weird. I now have eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces file, and went to "ifup eth0" and my computer went to fully CLI and couldn't figure out how to get my GUI back. Had to restart.22:25
TJ-bs0d: I'd add a debug line immediately before the "read" doing something like "/bin/ps -efly | /bin/grep plymouth >> /tmp/myscript.log"22:26
ZiberAnyone have experience with that?22:26
TJ-Ziber: I think I have seen/heard of that once before; never happened again so didn't dig into it22:27
ZiberWell. Just ran it again, and my GUI didn't go anywhere. That was weird.22:27
jhutchinsZiber: So did you somehow kill the DM/DE, or just switch away from it and not switch back?  Were you working in an X terminal or a console?22:27
ZiberI'm not sure... I'm currently in the console in my GUI.22:28
TJ-Ziber: I assumed it was because X was configured to listen on a TCP port and that was somehow upset by the ifup command22:28
sandman13will this theme work on Ubuntu 13.10: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Gnome+Pack?content=12782622:29
YellowGTOHye guys im having samaba issues. Even though it seems to be configured correctly22:29
YellowGTOConfig https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwdif72coy86wrc/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.46.01.png22:29
YellowGTOError https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipor3iv6mfwxm6g/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.45.38.png22:29
sandman13with xfce desktop environment22:30
ZiberI have "inet eth0 inet dhcp" in my interfaces file. If I boot my computer without an ethernet cable plugged in, will it boot without trying to get it? Earlier, it was stuck at "waiting for network configuration..." and wouldn't boot.22:30
TJ-Ziber: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"22:31
ZiberYes?22:31
bs0dTJ-: hmm its weird but the log file is not created at all22:31
TJ-Ziber: You wrote "inet ..."22:31
ZiberOh, sorry. yeah. iface.22:31
TJ-bs0d: So, script *not* running then.22:31
ZiberOf course, without network-manager handling the interface, it won't disconnect when I unplug the cable. So technically it still has an IP.22:32
TJ-bs0d: move back one step; add a log line to "/etc/rc.local" just prior to your script call... make sure rc.local is being called!22:32
bs0dTJ-: this piece of code is inside /etc/rc.local .. so, rc.local is not invoked?22:32
ZiberIf I do get back to a pure cli, how can I get my gui back?22:32
bs0dTJ-: I have placed this small code directly to rc.local22:33
TJ-bs0d: You're checked "/etc/rc.local" is set with eXecutable permissions?22:33
bs0dTJ-: no, I guess it should be by default. Let me check it22:33
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, linux /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper -- initrd /casper/initrd.lz nomodeset debug             Is that the right syntax?22:33
TJ-bs0d: Also ensure that the service is linked in for the runlevel 2 at /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local22:33
TJ-Ubuntu_User: Not quite... you need to put "nomodeset debug" before "file=..."22:34
TJ-Ubuntu_User: otherwise, those commands are tacked onto the separate "initrd" clause, which means they are discarded22:35
rburgosnavashi there, i'm wifi connection issue and i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction22:35
bastolhas no one else verified  if this is a false postive for rootkits ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911649/22:35
rburgosnavasright now i'm connected to the wireless network, strength is good, but dont get internet connection22:36
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, makes sense. I get the same blank black screen except this time the laptop fan went high for about 30 seconds and went down to normal.22:37
rburgosnavasi've looked online but i can't find a suitable answer on most forum posts22:37
gutHeadon one 13.10 machine I have the pacakge evoluspencil, but ont he other 13.10 machine aptitude cannot find this package and /etc/apt/sources.list seem the same on both machines22:37
TJ-Ubuntu_User: Hmmm... but no sign of any text messages at all from the kernel?22:37
gutHeadcan anyone tell me why the packages might appear different ont he two machines?22:38
chrisbillupsHi guys! I have a quick question. For Ubuntu Studio 13.10, will I be able to install Google Chrome 64 bit stable w/o any issues?22:38
TJ-Ubuntu_User: The only thing I can think of is - aside from linux image corruption - that you're trying to start a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit only CPU22:38
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, no :(22:38
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, If I enable Secure boot, it will boot with no issues.22:38
TJ-Ubuntu_User: As Mr Spock might say, "that's illogical, Captn"22:39
Beldarchrisbillups, What makes you think there will be a problem, if you are all 64 bit?22:40
chrisbillupsI'm a 1st timer.22:40
bs0dTJ-: it looks like commands are not executed past "plymouth quit" call. "/bin/touch /root/test" before the call runs fine, "/bin/touch /root/test2" after the plymouth call does not create any file.22:40
TJ-Ubuntu_User: OK, so SB implies UEFI boot. So do you know if the ISO installer is starting in UEFI or legacy mode ? Do you choose a firmware boot option such as "UEFI: DVD..."22:40
Beldarchrisbillups, I have not seen anyone as of now with problems lately.22:40
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, That's what I don't get either. Doesn't make sense at all. In theory it shouldn't boot with secure boot enabled.22:41
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chrisbillupsOkay, cool. Just wanted to get a 2nd opinion. I appreciate it y'all. Have a Wonderful Day! :)22:41
TJ-bs0d: OK, so it looks like plymouth doesn't respond as expected. Let's check if the way to cause it to quit has changed22:41
DancesWithBeersa22:41
iamnotpressionhello, i have got a fast question,.. I want download ubuntu 14.04 alpha to help to develoment, this will be update little to little to the LTS version or I will must download the LTS later in april maybe?22:41
TJ-Ubuntu_User: On the contrary, grub has a signed EFI shim loader, so it will SecureBoot22:41
Beldar!14.04 | iamnotpression22:42
ubottuiamnotpression: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+122:42
iamnotpressionand sry for my english, in the spain channel there aren't ppl22:42
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, As per Ubuntu Wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_Ubuntu_DVD_in_EFI_mode) If I get the GRUB boot loader, then it does boot in UEFI mode. I can also boot on legacy mode.22:42
iamnotpressioney, hi Phantom, nice to see you22:43
Beldariamnotpression, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel is all.22:43
iamnotpressionstill play AC?22:43
TJ-bs0d: According to "man plymouth" it should be "/bin/plymouth --quit"22:43
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, Windows 8 will fill in legacy mode though :(. I can't get rid of windows any time soon though.22:43
iamnotpressionthanks22:43
cody_1.22:44
cody_1hi22:44
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, I might need to burn a DVD and see if it makes a difference. Currently I am using USB to boot.22:45
sandman13can i get ubuntu 10.10 like UI for ubuntu 13.10?22:45
bs0dTJ-: I do not have man plymouth even :(22:45
TJ-Ubuntu_User: Hang on, if it boots OK we know it isn't a corrupted image issue22:45
TJ-bs0d: is "/bin/plymouth" installed?22:46
TJ-bs0d: No, plymouth doesn't provide any man-pages... and yes, that's *!%^& annoying22:46
bs0dTJ-: 2 of them .. plymouth and plymouth-upstart-bridge22:46
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TJ-bs0d: OK, so it is there. So try again with "/bin/plymouth --quit"22:47
bs0dTJ-: if I try to run this command when logged in just to test, will it do something bad to my system?22:47
TJ-bs0d: By that time plymouth will have been stopped anyhow; it only manages the splash screen at boot-time and shutdown22:48
arcsky"*** System restart required ***" if  i dont want to reboot, how do i remove the warning when i login to ssh?22:48
TJ-bs0d: I thought of a way you can do a boot-test without it... remove "splash" from the kernel command-line and plymouth won't be used22:49
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, It is getting late for me here. Is it ok If I continue this with you tomorrow? I really appreciate your help.22:49
TJ-Ubuntu_User: Try others; My brain isn't connecting the dots for you right now22:49
bs0dTJ-: /bin/plymouth --quit does the same .. not a single command run after this invocation22:49
bs0dTJ-: I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS22:50
rburgosnavaswell, i was able to find my answer: sudo dhclient22:50
TJ-bs0d: take a look at "plymouth --help" ... I'm wondering if you could piggy-back on the --ask-for-password option to have plymouth get user input22:50
gutHeaddoes anyoe know why an identical /etc/apt/sources.list and updated aptitude would not locate a packge on one 64bit 13.10 machine that was installed on another 64bit 13.10 machine?22:50
gutHeadanyone?22:51
TJ-bs0d: Even better, there's a command "ask-question"22:51
brainwashgutHead: which package exactly?22:51
Ubuntu_UserTJ-, Will do. Thank you for your pointers. It atleast it gave me some idea. Thanks a lot.22:51
hitsujiTMOarcsky: why do you want to remove it when its required??? sudo rm /var/run/reboot-required22:52
gutHeadbrainwash: evoluspencil, I think its from extras.canonical repo, but apt-cache policy doesn't seem to indicate where it is from :/22:52
OerHeksgutHead, maybe one machine has got a ppa extra, see sudo ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d22:54
TJ-gutHead: Are you sure it wasn't installed manually using dpkg -i xxxx.deb ?22:55
hitsujiTMOgutHead: whats the output of: apt-cache policy evoluspencil22:55
gutHeadOerHeks: hm there are quite a few more ppas on this other machine, that might be it22:55
hitsujiTMOgutHead: !info evoluspencil22:55
kostkongutHead, you got it from its site not the repos22:56
gutHeadTJ-: yes, I thought I might've isntalled it from a .deb file, but couldn't find it in ~/Downloads, where I know I would've kept it22:56
gutHeadkostkon: it appears with 'apt-cache show evoluspencil' though so it must be from one of these extra ppas I have collected on the other machine22:57
kostkongutHead, what apt-cache says exactly22:57
kostkondoes say*22:57
gutHeadanyways, thank you guys, I don't see any clearly identifiable ppa yet, but I'm sure it is in here22:57
TJ-gutHead: You can find out maybe using "zcat /var/log/apt/history.log.*.gz | grep evoluspencil"22:58
gutHeadkostkon: http://sprunge.us/HMaY22:58
bekksTJ-: zgrep22:58
gutHeadTJ-: grep didn't find anything :/22:59
kostkongutHead, you got it from here http://pencil.evolus.vn/  trust me22:59
gutHeadoh, zgrep22:59
gutHeadnope, zgrep produced nothing either22:59
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TJ-gutHead: It appears to be in raring/main22:59
gutHeadkostkon: I know of the website, I was just trying to figure out why aptitude had it one one machine but not another. .deb files don't update aptitude ... do they?22:59
gutHeadTJ-: I did install it on the other machine during 13.04, so that would make sense23:00
hitsujiTMOgutHead: if you installed it from a PPA then you'd have a copy of the deb in your apt-archive (unless you cleaned the cache).23:00
gutHeadmaybe it just cached the show data that way :/23:00
TJ-gutHead: That's not from Ubuntu, it's from "Deepin Linux"; it's in their repos23:01
gutHeadhitsujiTMO: I don't recall cleaning the cache (I tend to let things pile up :( )23:01
TJ-gutHead: see http://mirror.metrocast.net/deepin/pool/main/e/evoluspencil/23:01
hitsujiTMOgutHead: then have a look for it in /var/cache/apt/archives   if its not there then you installed it with dpkg -i23:02
samansalam23:02
samanhello23:02
samanhow are you23:03
gutHeadhitsujiTMO: either I did and I really don't rmemeber or i cleaned the archives cache and dont remember, because I don't see it in here23:03
gutHeadthanks again all23:03
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aniltürk varmı bişey sorucam23:09
k1l_!tr | anil23:09
ubottuanil: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.23:09
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nikolamwhy udisks-daemon is using 100% cpu time (one core) and what it is doing?23:32
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ometzithi everyone, I need some help making a reinstallation of ubuntu 12.04 lts, i'm running it from a pen drive but it freezes after the second screen, download updates while installing and install third party software. How can I tell (in top) whether is working or not?23:34
usr13ometzit: Your install media is a USB thumb-drive?23:37
nikolamctrl+alt+f1 , f2, f3 gives console23:37
usr13nikolam: Yep, that is normal.23:37
usr13nikolam: Probably f1-f6  (I just use f6)23:38
ometzitno, in the hard drive where I have an installation already but there is a huge mess with the wired and wireless connection so its easier to reinstall and update23:38
nikolamometzit, test RAM. don't let it connect to network while installing. Try using alternate (text) install image23:38
mmazingis there a different channel for ubuntu development?23:38
sprinkubuntu-dev probably23:39
sprinknvm23:39
ometzitalternative (text) install image what do you mean?23:39
sprink;)23:39
mmazingsprink: yeah that one is pretty empty  :)23:39
tzson https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList it says ubuntu-devel23:39
mmazingunless ubuntu has been developed single-handedly by a guy named jeff23:40
mmazingtzs: thanks23:40
ometzitlol23:40
daniel5940good afternoon23:41
nikolamudisks-daemon is using one core 100% cou time. what can I or we do about it? (13.10 64bit)23:41
daniel5940I just found out about ubuntu os and am looking for more specific information regarding installing and using it23:42
daniel5940Iam at this point a windows baby only withno other experience lol23:42
ometzitnikolam what do you mean by alternative (text) install image?23:42
nikolamubuntu is GNU/Linux distribution.23:42
usr13daniel5940: See ubuntu.com23:42
Paddy_NI 23:43
daniel5940that's how I ended up here usr1323:43
nikolamometzit, welll, up to 12.04, there is .iso and usb image of install media, that does installation not via GUI, but via text interface23:43
usr13daniel5940: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop23:43
usr13daniel5940: Ok. Great.  Do you have any specific question(s)?23:44
nikolamdaniel5940, see distrowatch.com and read wikipedia on linux23:44
daniel5940lol a lot, but the main one is what's the difference between ubuntu and windows (or mac, linux, etc)23:45
MR_Wazzap11Hey guys23:45
usr13daniel5940: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/index.html23:45
usr13daniel5940: The difference is BIG23:45
ometzitnikolam but running linux from a live usb you mean? what I have now is a bottable usb drive it would be running it there and installing by the terminal23:46
usr13daniel5940: Kind of like the difference between night and day, (between MS Windows and Linux) (between mac and linux, not so much, a little closer) (mac uses a form of BSD which is kind of close cousin to linux)23:47
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usr13daniel5940: From MS Windows to Mac to Linux (to me) is like:  Good->Better->Best :)23:48
cadot273kelvinIt depends what you want to do with it.23:49
daniel5940ok, but I have never used any os (that Iam aware of) other than windows based23:49
usr13daniel5940: Well then, you are in for a treat.  :)23:49
nikolamometzit, maybe I didn't understand you . I was thinking you were reinstalling system on HD, using usb drive ad boot media? You should have Linuxc installed on HD , not on USB.23:49
sprinkI used to say windows for games, macs for design, and linux productivity, but now days linux is almost good for gaming23:49
cadot273kelvindaniel5940: What do you use your computer for?23:49
T1960CTlol for me its Windows, Ubuntu12.04 then Mac.... goes from (engineer soon) to I love this OS but could do with knowing more, to NEVER TOUCHING THIS EVER23:50
daniel5940I use it for everything from gaming, to home office...  homeschooling my kid(s), to eventually installing my own security programs around the house23:51
usr13cadot273kelvin: That's kind of like asking; What do you use a car for?    Or what do you use dirt for?23:51
ometzitnikolam yes is on usb, but reinstalling from the USB. But wait I passed to the "where do you want to install" screen, I have a partition for windows and one for the previous linux installation, the one I want to reinstall23:51
daniel5940right nwo, I have two other computers that I have rebuilt; they currently have winXP on them, and only have 10 and 20gb hd's.  I am thinking of installing onto one of them tog et a feelf or it23:52
ultrajennhi all, is there a way to check when your system shutdown unexpectedly? I had a power failure and wanted to trace back when the machine was working roughy23:52
usr13cadot273kelvin: See...  "I use it for everything..."  :)23:52
usr13ultrajenn: Could be overheating.23:52
cadot273kelvinusr13: kind of, some people do use their car to drive to work, some use it to race.  Some people use dirt for gardening, some use it to build houses.23:53
ometzitnikolam but I want to keep the home folder, while reinstalling everything else (hopefully there are no conflicts), what should I do?23:53
nikolamis it on btrfs?23:53
nikolamBtrfs file system can have subvolumes23:54
usr13cadot273kelvin:  Good point(s)...   :)23:54
cadot273kelvindaniel5940: that sounds like a good plan to get a feel for what you can do with it.23:54
nikolamand why installing 12.04 and not 13.10? ometzit23:54
ultrajennusr13: I think that's the reason23:54
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cadot273kelvinusr13: likewise, some game, some surf, some work etc...23:55
daniel5940will it run on as small a hard drive as 10gb?  I know winxp can install and operate on smaller but it will crash a lot due to lack of hd storage23:55
usr13!lts | nikolam23:55
ubottunikolam: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)23:55
ultrajennI wanted to find out which log file I can investigate to find out at what time the machine was running before the crash23:55
usr13daniel5940: no23:55
nikolamyeah yeah usr1323:55
ometzitnikolam dunno, I downloaded that one, i would guess is better because of what ubottu said, or at least safer23:55
usr13daniel5940: Not unless you strip it down a LOT23:55
ometzitI hope it constains the broadcom drivers which are the source of all the mess23:55
nikolamubottu, is a irc bot, usr13 pointed to it23:56
ubottunikolam: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:56
nikolamlol23:56
daniel5940what would be the minimum size hd you reccomend for ubuntu?23:56
ometzithaha23:56
aberranthi all23:56
usr13daniel5940: Why would you want to limit a modern OS to 10G?23:56
aberrantxen, virtualbox, kvm, vmware, or other?23:56
usr13daniel5940: (A full desktop install is more than 10G.)23:56
daniel5940in the end, I wouldnt usr13, but right now my spare computers only have 10 and 20gb hd's23:57
nikolamometzit, if it is not for server or you were religiously tight to LTS (like me was), then go for latest supported, 13.10. And install on HD :P23:57
tonyt14.10 now23:57
daniel5940and I was wondering if they would work to get a basic feel for the os, to see if it was something Icould work with personally23:57
usr13daniel5940: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-requirements.html23:57
usr13daniel5940: http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/#23:58
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spytr0n??23:59
ometzitnikolam well it would be supported for 9 months i hope that updating it is not difficult....in 9 months lol23:59
usr13daniel5940: Ok, well you can probably fit into a 10G drive, maybe, but yes, for sure on a 20G23:59

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