[00:00] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Now that I am running, I want to optimize performance and someone with experience could really help.
[00:00] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Search on... google.com?
[00:01] <newb> ubottu: how do I access alis list?
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> newb: #litecoin
[00:01] <abc_harold> Cb321: is there a hwinfo64 if you have 64bit installed? otherwise can you pastebin contents of /boot/menu.lst
[00:02] <newb> hitsujiTMO: thank you!
[00:02] <newb> ubottu: you're not really a bot, are you? Nah....
[00:02] <newb> hitsujiTMO: maybe ubottu IS a bot?
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> !brain
[00:03] <abc_harold> that was a no brainer
[00:03] <abc_harold> no pun intended
[00:05] <Cb321> abc_harold: Once again, I apoogize, but I don't know where to look to find the hwinfo64 folder. It isn't in the home directory, and I wouldn't know where else to look for it. When I went to the /boot directory, there is no menu .1st anywhere.
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> cb321: sudo find / -name hwinfo64
[00:08] <Cb321> I did as you asked and put in the command. It asked for my password and few seconds went by and the terminal went back to normal.
[00:08] <abc_harold> Cb321: hwinfo and hwinfo64 are programs lol, and it's menu.LST (lowercase, and not like first)
[00:08] <abc_harold> sorry for not being clear
[00:09] <abc_harold> Cb321: did you run it with --framebuffer?
[00:11] <Cb321> abc_harold: Just to be clear which command are you referring to?
[00:11] <abc_harold> Cb321: hwinfo or hwinfo64, whichever works
[00:12] <Bray90820> how would i echo the output of date to a file
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> Bray90820: date > file
[00:12] <abc_harold> Bray90820: or date >> file to append
[00:13] <Bray90820> If i do that it just puts the word date at the end of the file
[00:13] <abc_harold> Bray90820: dont echo date, just date > file
[00:13] <abc_harold> (or date >> file)
[00:14] <pibby> Bray90820: in the terminal type: which date
[00:14] <Cb321> abc_harold: Oh yes I'm sorry I did run that command with --framebuffer as you previously suggested. It told me that 'hwinfo' has no installation candidate.
[00:14] <Bray90820> abc_harold: i didn't read it correctly thank you
[00:14] <Bray90820> i wasn't suppose to use echo
[00:14] <Cb321> abc_harold: hwinfo64 came up as an invalid command, so I couldn't run that anyway.
[00:15] <abc_harold> Bray90820: yep
[00:15] <Bray90820> I need to learn to read
[00:16] <abc_harold> Cb321: can you pastebin the contents of /boot/menu.lst please (thats LST)
[00:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: It seems no one hangs out in that area like you do in this area. Tough to get their help.
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> newb be patient maybe. sunday evenings are typically quieter in some channels
[00:18] <abc_harold> Sorry, really have to go now Cb321
[00:18] <abc_harold> it's midnight in England and im shattered
[00:18] <Cb321> abc_harold: No problem,do you have a Hangouts account I can maybe reach you at for more help in the future when you are free?
[00:18] <Cb321> abc_harold: Or do you frequent this IRC?
[00:19] <abc_harold> I'll be on #ubuntu tomorrow, probably 18:00 GMT onward
[00:21] <Cb321> abc_harold: Alright! Thanks again for all of your help I honestly appreciate it!
[00:22] <abc_harold> Cb321: that's fine, I'll be here tomorrow then! :)
[00:32] <banzai> I have Ubuntu 12.04, how can I have the latest stable Intel drivers?
[00:32] <banzai> *Intel graphics drivers?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> banzai: ensure you are on the saucy enablement stack
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> banzai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[00:33] <banzai> hitsujiTMO: What is that?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> banzai: kernel, xorg, etc from saucy
[00:35] <Ziber> Hey, I have a VPN I use between a server and my laptop, but the openvpn client for ubuntu apparently only has IPv4 settings. I want to use IPv6 over it as well, do I need to install anything else to be able to do that?
[00:35] <banzai> hitsujiTMO: I see. I'll try it. Thank you!
[00:36] <banzai> Going offline. I kind of just removed half of my distro from my hard drive x/
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> banzai: yes, theres a large chunk that gets replaced when you change enablement stacks
[00:42] <banzai> hitsujiTMO: That's not because of that. I had installed Ubuntu-X PPA and told myself that using ppa-purge for that would be a good idea... man was I wrong.
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> banzai: ahh, i see
[00:44] <banzai> Even my application launcher and the USB reader were removed...
[00:45] <banzai> Stuck with having to upload a backup on Dropbox, this is going to eat up my Internet consumption..
[00:48] <Ziber> Anyone with vpn ideas?
[00:48] <edd`> thats why im here
[00:49] <Ziber> ?
[00:50] <edd`> i'm also looking for vpn ideas
[00:51] <edd`> looking to connect a laptop, mobile device and some home computers to the office
[00:52] <Ziber> well, I have a working vpn, I'm trying to add ipv6 to it.
[00:55] <edd`> can your vpn do what i need it to do?
[00:56] <Ziber> Depends what you need it to do? Also, not mine. Openvpn.
[01:11] <williamtdr> Hi.
[01:11] <williamtdr> Just installed mysql-server on my box running Ubuntu Server 12.04.
[01:11] <williamtdr> However, it didn't prompt like for a root password, or offer any prompt during the setup.
[01:12] <williamtdr> On any other box, it's asked for those things.
[01:12] <williamtdr> Same when I set up phpmyadmin, no prompts.
[01:12] <williamtdr> Without these, I can't set the respective programs up properly.
[01:12] <williamtdr> Is there a package I'm missing or something?
[01:13] <mib2489> On ubuntu 13, I do    grep -r "blah"     and          grep -r "blah" .      and they do the same thing. In all my past experiences on other systems they are not the same thing, without the '.' it will wait for input. Any idea why?
[01:13] <SlidingHorn> Hi williamtdr: Try to keep posts to one line when possible...take a look here for setting your mysql root password: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Set_mysql_root_password
[01:14] <williamtdr> SlidingHorn, the more core issue is it not showing a prompt when I set up a package requiring configuraiton. How can I enable the prompts again?
[01:15] <sleepie^^> I have a very intriguing question, please please answer if you know I cannot find an answer on the web.
[01:16] <SlidingHorn> !ask | sleepie^^
[01:16] <eflynn> sleepie^^: ok...
[01:16] <SlidingHorn> williamtdr:  I'm looking
[01:16] <williamtdr> SlidingHorn, thanks. If it helps, it's a brand new box from leasweb with Ubuntu Server 12.04.3.
[01:17] <SlidingHorn> williamtdr:  What was the *exact* command you entered to install?
[01:17] <williamtdr> SlidingHorn, apt-get install mysql-server
[01:17] <sleepie^^> In Ubuntu 13.10, grub presents a menu entry "Advanced Options", submenu's include Ubuntu, and Ubuntu (recovery movde). What happens when I load the one that is not recovery mode Why does it say "Loading initial ramdisk..." before boot?
[01:19] <eflynn> sleepie^^: these are just kernels with different options
[01:19] <eflynn> sleepie^^: the initial ramdisk is kernel related
[01:20] <eflynn> sleepie^^: does that help
[01:21] <sleepie^^> eflynn: Are you telling me that I have an additional kernel installed, and Ubuntu does not document what it is there for? If so, will Please Please tell me what the purpose of this out of the spotlight menu entry is for?
[01:22] <eflynn> sleepie^^: no the recovery mode is just the same kernel with different parameters
[01:22] <eflynn> sleepie^^: it's perfectly fine to have more than one kernel
[01:22] <mskim> hello
[01:23] <SlidingHorn> williamtdr:  Try running (no quotes) "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text"  then remove & reinstall mysql-server....let me know if that prompts you
[01:23] <sleepie^^> eflynn: Is there anywhere that I can find the documentation on these parameters? Or is this as simple as viewing them myself in grub by using 'e' while the menu entry is highlighted?
[01:23] <williamtdr> SlidingHorn, doing so.
[01:23] <SlidingHorn> I'll brb - gonna grab smokes & a bite to eat.  Will check in w/ you when I return
[01:25] <eflynn> sleepie^^: look into linux kernel documentation
[01:25] <sleepie^^> eflynn: Okay thank you so much. This confused me needlessly
[01:26] <eflynn> sleepie^^: what's so confusing
[01:28] <sleepie^^> eflynn: I do not understand the general "could be explained in a single line" purpose of this second kernel with alternative boot parameters.
[01:29] <Matriks404> any ideas why my lg l5 is not working with ubuntu 12.04 but with 13.10 does? It's linux-firmware thing?
[01:29] <eflynn> sleepie^^: it's really just there if ubuntu is having trouble booting -- usually graphics related, like the frame buffer isn't working for some reason
[01:33] <Matriks404> nvm
[01:34] <nobitanobi> Hi guys, I am trying to listen to http://somafm.com/play/groovesalad -- But when visiting that page with Chrome, the browser keeps download a 'pls' file instead of playing music.
[01:34] <nobitanobi> I am confused, what am I doing wrong? (12.10 here)
[01:36] <kr4m3r> hello all, have a alternative to free-ip in ubuntu?
[01:37] <mskim> hello
[01:37] <jundoe> nobitanobi: have you tried other browsers?
[01:37] <nobitanobi> yes, Firefox too
[01:38] <nobitanobi> it downloads a pls file
[01:38] <nobitanobi> I guess I need to open this file from Rythmbox?
[01:38] <jundoe> probably
[01:39] <mskim> smafm.com so slow
[01:39] <jundoe> i noticed it too
[01:39] <mskim> somafm.com dowload ~.pls file
[01:40] <mskim> and open it for default application
[01:40] <mskim> what's problem??
[01:40] <jundoe> i think he wanted the browser to play it and not to download it
[01:40] <nobitanobi> mskim, I see
[01:41] <mskim> if you want to play music automatic
[01:41] <nobitanobi> I thought I could play it from the browser
[01:41] <nobitanobi> and avoid the download
[01:41] <nobitanobi> *stream it from there
[01:41] <mskim> setting 'default application'
[01:41] <mskim> or install plugin for chrome
[01:41] <nobitanobi> ok...
[01:41] <nobitanobi> thanks
[01:42] <jundoe> in my case my firefox is caching at the moment
[01:42] <jundoe> very slow
[01:42] <MR_Wazzap11> Hello?
[01:42] <jundoe> hi
[01:42] <mskim> hello
[01:42] <depper> is there a way to be invited to channel #linux?????????????
[01:43] <ishalune> you are probably looking for ##linux
[01:43] <MR_Wazzap11> Does anyone know how to test if a USB wireless card works in Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:43] <k1l_> depper: use ##linux
[01:43] <depper> yes but i cant "speak" to the channel
[01:43] <depper> only invited
[01:43] <ishalune> you need to register / identify to talk in ##linux
[01:43] <jundoe> #linux is available for registered nicks
[01:44] <MR_Wazzap11> Does anyone know how to test if a USB wireless card works in Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:44] <k1l_> depper: please ask in #freenode for network support in this case
[01:44] <ishalune> depper, /msg nickserv help register
[01:44] <depper> thanks very much
[01:45] <MR_Wazzap11> Anyone?
[01:45] <mskim> not me
[01:45] <krabador> MR_Wazzap11, lspci
[01:45] <krabador> MR_Wazzap11, lsusb
[01:46] <krabador> MR_Wazzap11, sudo lshw -C network
[01:46] <krabador> MR_Wazzap11, iwconfig
[01:46] <MR_Wazzap11> Looks like it isnt working :(
[01:48] <krabador> MR_Wazzap11, what's the card?
[01:49] <MR_Wazzap11> Belkin f5d8055 v2
[01:49] <SlidingHorn> !wifi | MR_Wazzap11
[01:49] <krabador> !pastebin | MR_Wazzap11
[01:49] <MR_Wazzap11> I wasnt sure if it physically worked though
[01:50] <krabador> MR_Wazzap11, then you don't know if it's working inside win?
[01:50] <krabador> MR_Wazzap11, pastebin of lsusb
[01:50] <SlidingHorn> hey williamtdr - how did it go w/ mysql-server?
[01:51] <MR_Wazzap11> I did then it was acting sketchy Hold on Krabador I'll do that now
[01:57] <MR_Wazzap11> pastebin.com/nE2ge3TM
[01:57] <MR_Wazzap11> pastebin.com/nE2ge3tM
[01:58] <MR_Wazzap11> sorry that one ^
[02:01] <Ziber> So, network-manager-openvpn-gnome doesn't have ipv6 support?
[02:06] <SlidingHorn> MR_Wazzap11,  and the device was plugged in when you ran that?
[02:06] <MR_Wazzap11> yes
[02:08] <MR_Wazzap11> I'm assuming that it means its broken?
[02:16] <SlidingHorn> MR_Wazzap11,  Typically, if it doesn't even list in lsusb, it's due to the device itself being defective or the hub driver itself is buggy....have you tried this on any other OS?  (I know you were asked earlier, but I forgot)
[02:17] <SlidingHorn> One option would be to run a different LiveCD or something and see if *it* can detect the device
[02:17] <MR_Wazzap11> Yes It worked in Windows 7 for  a while then it started acting buggy and I wanted to see if Ubuntu would still be able to use it
[02:19] <SlidingHorn> Sounds like it may be bricked
[02:19] <MR_Wazzap11> Thought so
[02:26] <MR_Wazzap11> Anyone know a good repository to install Skype from termianal
[02:26] <rww> MR_Wazzap11: download it from their website, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb, sudo apt-get update
[02:27] <rww> erm, sudo apt-get -f install **
[02:34] <soap> +1
[02:36] <Mooneye> Hello.
[02:36] <hewhomust> hi
[02:36] <Mooneye> How goes it?
[02:36] <SlidingHorn> !ot
[02:36] <rww> SlidingHorn: I think that might have been a bit soon :P
[02:36] <Mooneye> Got it. Sorry about that.
[02:37] <hewhomust> lol
[02:37] <SlidingHorn> rww: Isn't there one just for saying hi, too?  lol
[02:37] <hewhomust> ubuntu-hi
[02:37] <rww> nope, because people overused it
[02:37] <rww> tends to work better if you just, you know, say hi back
[02:37] <SlidingHorn> oh - sorry then...been a while :-x
[02:41] <swatson> hello
[02:41] <jundoe> hi
[02:41] <xus> i need a little help
[02:41] <amagee> Hey in the default ubuntu/unity theme, the styling for tab strips in apps like Gnome-terminal is so bad that I can barely tell which tab is the selected one (and my eyesight is perfectly fine). What do people do to fix this? Install another theme?
[02:42] <xus> how do i set ubuntu as the default os on uefi
[02:42] <Bashing-om> swatson: Hi back :D
[02:43] <xus> how to i make ubuntu the default os?
[02:43] <xus> on uefi
[02:43] <daftykins> reconfigure grub
[02:43] <xus> don know how
[02:43] <daftykins> !grub
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys does swap only get used once you run out of ram?
[02:48] <k1l_> and for suspend2ram
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> oh interesting
[02:48] <Psil0Cybin> i thought swap was always used :_)
[02:49] <k1l_> erm wait. suspend2disk
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> still so swap is not used just by using your OS
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> like from boot right away
[02:49] <k1l_> suspend2ram does get saved in ram of course.
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> it gets used over time
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> right?
[02:49] <k1l_> swap is slow. you dont want that to be used
[02:49] <zykotick9> Psil0Cybin: check the output of "free"
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> ah
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> Mem:       3926076     919008    3007068          0      33968     514984
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> -/+ buffers/cache:     370056    3556020
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> Swap:      4069372          0    4069372
[02:50] <raub> Can you pass more than one ntp server through dhcp? If so, would ubuntu get them all or just the first one?
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> sorry just interesting cuz hardly any swap is ever used for me :D
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> and i thought it always get used loll
[02:50] <rww> why would your computer use slow swap when there's plenty of fast memory available?
[02:50] <zykotick9> Psil0Cybin: Windows foolishly uses swap (virtual memory) like you are describing
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> haha wow, thanks guys for explaining this i just learned so much about what swap actually is...
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> so Its normal for my swap to always be free :D like from what I just outputted, I have a working swap right?
[02:51] <Psil0Cybin> just it does not get used.
[02:51] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: its a fallback
[02:51] <jhutchins> raub: Supposed to be able to pass at least two.
[02:53] <jhutchins> Psil0Cybin: While swap is a good fallback, like k1l_ said, it's not verry efficient, and if your system starts making much use of it you'll notice a significant slowdown.
[02:53] <jhutchins> Psil0Cybin: A web server that's actively swapping might as well be off-line.
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> thanks for that additional explanation :D you guys are actually amazing so it is like a last call type thing
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> just to have your system running
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> barely
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> :D
[02:54] <rww> I don't bother with swap on my machine. If something's using 4GB of RAM, I want it gone.
[02:54] <jhutchins> Psil0Cybin: If you have multiple programs swapping at the same time, your command response can get over a minute or more.
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> wowowowow
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> i did not know that jhutchins !
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> i had a wrong idea of whawt swap was all along
[02:56] <jhutchins> Psil0Cybin: Many years ago, virtual memory was a more useful feature, when memory was expensive and slow (we're talking mainframes).
[02:57] <CrypticByte> is anyone having problems with teh 12.04lts repo?  Its only going like 60kbs for me
[02:57] <rww> !mirror
[02:57] <rww> use a different mirror
[02:57] <MR_Wazzap11> Would anyone know if running Ubuntu 12.04 on and AMD-E300 APU and 4GB RAM laptop with a 320 GB 7200RPM Hdd would run well?
[02:57] <Guest45929> Hi i'm having a problem with gnome themes
[02:57] <jhutchins> CrypticByte: We just had a point release  Heavy load.
[02:57] <Guest45929> MR_Wazzap11, Yes
[02:58] <CrypticByte> ah ok that may explain the issue then :P
[02:58] <swatson> hello
[02:58] <Guest45929> Does this irc channel also help me with ubuntu-gnome?
[02:59] <CrypticByte> I supose they can as long as it isn't anything to do with gnome itself
[02:59] <jhutchins> MR_Wazzap11: Should be pretty good.
[02:59] <Guest45929> Oh, well i'm having a problem applying a gtk theme, the gnome irc wouldn't answer
[03:00] <Scott_Puopolo> I installed 12.04.4 via mini iso which detected and used my network card.  After rebooting, the network card is disabled.  It is 0e11:ae32 Netelligent 10/100.  Any ideas how to get it working again?
[03:00] <MR_Wazzap11> Ok cause I'm officially switching on my Laptop now Thanks jhutchins
[03:01] <MR_Wazzap11> Would it be better to go with 13.10 or 12.04? What re the differences?
[03:01] <Guest45929> 13.10 is newer, 12.04 is more stable
[03:01] <Guest45929> 13.10 has more features
[03:02] <MR_Wazzap11> Like what Guest45929
[03:02] <Guest45929> MR_Wazzap11 More...uhh
[03:03] <Guest45929> All of these: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-best-features-of-ubuntu-1310/
[03:03] <MR_Wazzap11> Would you recommend 13.XX 12.XX ?
[03:03] <MR_Wazzap11> over*
[03:03] <Guest45929> MR_Wazzap11 I reccomend 13, it seems as if you are new
[03:04] <YellowGTO> Who feels like doing some generous hand holding! I've been at this all day and I really can't get this disk to auto mount. I've tried every guide and I even tried using gnome-disks
[03:04] <MR_Wazzap11> Well I've used 12.04 a lot but never in depth, it was temporarily over and over
[03:04] <YellowGTO> I can mount it via terminal, but I can't auto mount. What info do you need to help?
[03:04] <Guest45929> MR_Wazzap11 If you have an underspecced PC like a pentium 4 use 12
[03:04] <MR_Wazzap11> its an AMD-E300
[03:05] <Guest45929> MR_Wazzap11 On the pc you listed 13 would be fine, no real major changesa
[03:05] <Guest45929> MR_Wazzap11 It's not windows 8 lol
[03:05] <MR_Wazzap11> I have an Acer Aspire 5250-0678  with 4GB ram instead of the retailed 3
[03:05] <MR_Wazzap11> Hahaha Win8 is shit
[03:05] <MR_Wazzap11> I mean poops............
[03:06] <YellowGTO> http://pastebin.com/mdxX6PE5
[03:06] <Guest45929> YellowGTO: Can you mount it manually
[03:06] <YellowGTO> Yeah mounting manually works fine
[03:07] <YellowGTO> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/TV works great.
[03:07] <Guest45929> YellowGTO: I'm a n00b, idk make a script or something (I'm sorry, I'm really new to linux, so i'm probably not the part of the community you want)
[03:08] <YellowGTO> Its okay, I wait for someone else to chime in :) Thanks for the interest
[03:10] <somsip> YellowGTO: what have you tried? Can you post your /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntu.com?
[03:10] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: What release and desk top are you using ?
[03:10] <YellowGTO> I just formatted so fstab is now blank
[03:10] <YellowGTO> Its Xubuntu 13.10
[03:11] <somsip> YellowGTO: fstab should never be completely blank.
[03:11] <YellowGTO> Well
[03:11] <Tuck_C_Dough> anyone use teamspeak ?
[03:11] <YellowGTO> http://pastebin.com/Vna5c6Yt
[03:11] <YellowGTO> Thats what it is now
[03:12] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: What have you set in setting -> Removable drives and media ?
[03:12] <somsip> YellowGTO: so you have no entry in there to try to mount this drive?
[03:12] <calvados> its abit generic question but, i was "tar" archiving (no compress) a folder size of 300gb , my tar archive file is 500gb now. is there anything wrong ?
[03:13] <somsip> !fstab | YellowGTO
[03:13] <YellowGTO> somsip just cameback with a fresh format
[03:13] <rypervenche> Tuck_C_Dough: Yep.
[03:13] <YellowGTO> After I hosed the install
[03:13] <Tuck_C_Dough> how to get the playback device in teamspeak options to recognize the default playback device
[03:13] <MR_Wazzap11> wtf are you compressing that size!
[03:13] <YellowGTO> Bashing-om, Im not tracking
[03:14] <rww> MR_Wazzap11: they're not compressing it, it's .tar
[03:14] <somsip> YellowGTO: well, add the line to mount the disk you want, and then explain how that is not working
[03:14] <MR_Wazzap11> Yeah I mean just the fact that it's 300GB o.O Full system backup? xD
[03:15] <rypervenche> calvados: Is this for a backup?
[03:15] <Tuck_C_Dough> the error msg reads: Error opening playback device: device not registered/known
[03:15] <calvados> rypervenche: yes i am moving them to s3 bucket on aws
[03:16] <calvados> MR_Wazzap11: no just my home folder :)
[03:16] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Best of my knowledge Xubuntu uses xfce for the dest top, see what is set in "Removable drives and media" from the settings menue ? // Your fstab file looks fine, Automounting is not handled by fstab, it is a function of udisk2,
[03:16] <rypervenche> calvados: I would recommend using something else to backup your things, such as rdiff-backup. It will be much quicker each time you backup and it can keep multiple backups.
[03:17] <calvados> rypervenche: hm well i am worrying about size, its one time thing but tar size almost doubled folder size
[03:17] <YellowGTO> This is an actually sata drive Bashing-om it shows up on the desktop
[03:17] <YellowGTO> But I need to right click and hit mount
[03:17] <rypervenche> calvados: You probably got something in there that you didn't intend.
[03:17] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Then sir, it is mounted .
[03:18] <YellowGTO> No its listed be grayed out.
[03:18] <YellowGTO> You need to right click on it and select mount.
[03:18] <calvados> rypervenche: hm like what ? I know there are lots of files inside, even small files
[03:18] <YellowGTO> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qiqjcsxx5bkhp6y/Screenshot%202014-02-09%2022.18.32.png
[03:18] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: if you click on the icon for the external drive, what results ?
[03:19] <rypervenche> calvados: It would be hard to tell without knowing exactly what's in there and being able to tinker around with it. I would recommend at least using rsync to update your changes. rdiff-backup or rsnapshot would be the best way though, because each backup after the first would only move over the changes, so it would not take the time to tar up the new file and then send it over.
[03:19] <rypervenche> calvados: Plus, recovery is a snap and very fast. If you're interested in setting something like that up, send me a PM.
[03:19] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: OK, that is normal, one can if you want that changed, mount the device from fstab.
[03:19] <calvados> rypervenche: i will go rsync thanks
[03:20] <YellowGTO> Yeah thats what im trying to do
[03:20] <YellowGTO> Problem is I can't ask for support once I crash
[03:20] <YellowGTO> BEcause I remoted in
[03:21] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB // Have you seen this howto ?
[03:21] <MR_Wazzap11> Ok guys night :)
[03:24] <user> --add user
[03:24] <theman> what up
[03:25] <YellowGTO> Aight lets see if it crashes UUID="deb802ce-8cf6-4a87-9f07-01d3a144b7d7 /media/TV auto rw,user,exec, 0 0
[03:25] <theman> ya crashes
[03:26] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: looks ok ..IF it is not formated as NTFS or FATxx .
[03:26] <YellowGTO> I thought auto was auto detect file system
[03:27] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: YES, BUT, the permissions and access if NTFS or fat must be set, So what are we dealing with here ?
[03:28] <YellowGTO> When I view it with disks it says its NTFS and ext4. But the server is now down. Ill have to go manually bypass the error
[03:28] <YellowGTO> Brb
[03:29] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen-Understanding fstab // here is the tutorial to cope !
[03:31] <raub> jhutchins: found my issue: my options-dhcp statement was wrong
[03:31] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Remember, oone can not impose ubuntu's file system structure on NTFS (Windows), we got to "work-around" it.
[03:31] <Psil0Cybin> hey does anyone know how I can set up ERP5 on Ubuntu ?? with Zope
[03:34] <rypervenche> calvados: All right. Good stuff.
[03:36] <tradeinfo> hello
[03:36] <YellowGTO> Well that sucked
[03:36] <YellowGTO> I slipped in the snow and hurt my thumb :(
[03:36] <YellowGTO> Bashing-om, https://www.dropbox.com/s/pria2njpzhfo1si/Screenshot%202014-02-09%2022.35.56.png
[03:37] <YellowGTO> I don't really understand what that means. Is there a way to change the filesystem without formatting?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: I will look.
[03:37] <YellowGTO> I would gladly make it EXT but I don't have the space or time to really backup and restore
[03:41] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: That screenshot looks to me like there are 2 partitions. Let's work with tools I am familiar with, pastebin -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l <-, Did you get my last two references ?
[03:41] <YellowGTO> NoI don't belive so
[03:42] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: I bet we can work with what is.
[03:42] <YellowGTO> -lu http://pastebin.com/CALNqZnx
[03:43] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen-Understanding fstab ,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[03:44] <YellowGTO> parted -l http://pastebin.com/MjJU5XYa
[03:44] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: looking at 5XYa
[03:47] <YellowGTO> Yeah I read skimmed through these but I didn't see any information about my particular issue
[03:48] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: 'http://pastebin.com/MjJU5XYa' shows me 2 hard disk 1TB and 2 TB, and NTFS is not in the picture, show me the "sudo fdisk -lu ", then we will look at UUIDs
[03:49] <YellowGTO> http://pastebin.com/CALNqZnx That is fdisk -lu
[03:49] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: looking at gznx .
[03:51] <KxTwo> Hey guys, I am running ubuntu server on an older machine fo mine and have it hosting a docuwiki.  I can get to the page from outside my network but for some reason if I try to go to it from home I can't.  Any thoughts?
[03:51] <YellowGTO> I don't know what gznx is :(
[03:54] <mskim> hello
[03:57] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: I do not have a clue what to do - to be honest - fdisk says that disk is ext4 (ubuntu) BUT parted says that disk is NTFS (Windows), I have no idea how this can happen.
[03:58] <YellowGTO> Whats odd is this disk had been auto mounting for about 3 years
[03:58] <YellowGTO> I just formated because of a weird zoneminder issue
[03:58] <YellowGTO> And now I cna't get it to automount anymore. I think im just going to convert the filesystem to ext4
[03:58] <YellowGTO> See what happens
[03:59]  * cvvmaster need c99 shell urgently
[03:59] <YellowGTO> Bashing-om, http://partedmagic.com/
[04:00] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: I wish I had the knowledge to explain why 2 different partition tables are seen. Looking at the partedmagic shot.
[04:01] <somsip> !illegal | cvvmaster
[04:02] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: need the rest of the partedmagic link.
[04:02]  * cvvmaster slaps somsip around a bit with a large trout
[04:02] <YellowGTO> rest of it?
[04:03] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: What are you trying to show me "  http://partedmagic.com/" is the home page.
[04:03] <YellowGTO> Oh it has a tool to convert file system
[04:03] <YellowGTO> Well it really makes a 2nd partition moves stuff over. extends partition moves more stuff of
[04:03] <YellowGTO> Until its all ext4 or whatever
[04:04] <zgsppdale> Hi
[04:05] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Might be a good idea -But  I do not know, would be nice to look at the partition table(s) before doing anything, would not waant to make the situation worse.
[04:07] <YellowGTO> gparted see the filesystem as ext4
[04:07] <YellowGTO> btw
[04:08] <mskim> kvm is hard to me. especially virtio
[04:09] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Got an idea, what file system were the files on the disk originally before reformatting ?
[04:10] <YellowGTO> This is a 2nd disk. About 5 years ago when I switched to ubuntu it was running on Windows server 2003
[04:11] <YellowGTO> Maybe 4 years ago, but anyway everythings been running fine since then. Until today when I formated and can't get it auto mounted anymore
[04:12] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: and the disk was then formatted to ext4 ? - or were the files left intact and just the partition table changed ?
[04:13] <YellowGTO> I don't really remember
[04:13] <YellowGTO> It was a long time ago :(
[04:13] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: SERVER, raid meta data !, is raid a factor that we need to get rid of that old meta data ?
[04:14] <YellowGTO> It was never in raid
[04:15] <YellowGTO> I found an external HDD that should have enough space to backup the drive
[04:15] <YellowGTO> Brb gonna plug it in and backup everything
[04:15] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Well, I am at a lose to explain where BTFS is cropping up. Anyone else care to chime in here with a suggestion ?
[04:17] <zgsppdale> Does this channel support 13.10 Ubuntu Server?
[04:18] <fibz_> yes, but you might want to check in with #ubuntu-server for server specific inquiries
[04:18] <zgsppdale> fibs_:Okay. Thanks! ^^
[04:29] <YellowGTO> Bashing-om, 12 hours to back :(
[04:31] <Myro> Hey guys, i recently came accross an issue, im dualbooting ubuntu / windows on a ssd with grub. i restarted my pc to update a windows update and now when grub tries to load i come up with: Grub Rescue no such partition
[04:31] <Myro> but im still able to view the files when i use a usb loader of ubuntu
[04:33] <MrCurious> is there an easy way to tell what process is strobing the disk?  lsof spams a lotta output
[04:34] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: We will take this back up tomorrow ! .. the UUID will change, format to ext4 as native to ubuntu, -> check with sudo blkid <- to add to fstab.
[04:35] <Myro> anyone?
[04:35] <YellowGTO> Okay, I think I was entering the fstab line correctly it was just the odd double filesystem thing stopping it.
[04:35] <YellowGTO> Thanks for the help Bashing-om
[04:35] <kuroarashi> hi there
[04:35] <fibz_> Myro,  on the live USB, install boot-repair
[04:36] <fibz_> !boot-repair | Myro
[04:36] <Myro> i did, i ran it and still no change
[04:36] <kuroarashi> what is the problem bro
[04:36] <fibz_> boot-repair failed to repair a broken grub
[04:36] <Myro> 04:31] <Myro> Hey guys, i recently came accross an issue, im dualbooting ubuntu / windows on a ssd with grub. i restarted my pc to update a windows update and now when grub tries to load i come up with: Grub Rescue no such partition [04:31] <Myro> but im still able to view the files when i use a usb loader of ubuntu
[04:37] <kuroarashi> ahhh ok
[04:37] <Bashing-om> YellowGTO: Not much help, and I do want to see this through to resolution. I just do not see how there can be 2 partition tables - as GPT is not a factor.
[04:38] <buu> Ok, so, I inserted an audio cd into a fairly generic ubuntu install, and a music player popped up and started playing tracks, which is nice, but how do I copy the disk? I tried dd /dev/sr0 but I get input/output errors..
[04:38] <Myro> is there a way to reinstall grub without causing damage to the partitions
[04:39] <buu> Myro: grub shouldn't have anything to do with the partition table on a disk
[04:39] <buu> "dd: reading ‘/dev/sr0’: Input/output error"
[04:42] <21WACCEWU> buu: I suggest using something like vlc to export it.  VLC has that capability, and if you don't like VLC there are numerous other pieces of software that do it as well
[04:43] <Myro> since the repair didnt work, is there anything else i can do or should i attempt to just reinstalling an OS
[04:43] <daftykins> Myro: check out boot repair
[04:43] <daftykins> only thing i can say quickly as i head to bed :)
[04:43] <Myro> i tried dling the boot repair, updating and installing, then running it
[04:44] <Myro> to no avail
[04:44] <buu> 21WACCEWU: Thanks, I ended up using cdrdao, but why can't I just read the data as bytes?
[04:45] <21WACCEWU> cds are encrypted
[04:45] <buu> audio cds are?!
[04:45] <21WACCEWU> of course they are
[04:45] <buu> Is there no god
[04:45] <buu> I thought redbook prohibited encryption
[04:45] <21WACCEWU> the entertainment encryption industry are all money grubbing idiots
[04:46] <21WACCEWU> they somehow think that pissing everyone off equates to more money for them
[04:46] <21WACCEWU> but instead, it's gotten to the point where pirating bluray rips is easier than actually playing blurays
[04:47] <Myro> So if the repair doesnt work, should i just reinstall?
[04:48] <21WACCEWU> Myro: I suspect that reinstalling will be easier
[04:48] <daftykins> Myro: boot your liveCD/USB, chroot your install then try an update-grub
[04:48] <daftykins> if you haven't already
[04:48] <daftykins> !chroot
[04:48] <daftykins> i have to go though, so gl
[04:48] <21WACCEWU> though, all hope is probably not lost if you're dead set on repairing it
[04:49] <Myro> well repairing it i can work on tonight
[04:49] <Myro> i can grab a rando windows distro at work tomorrow
[04:49] <buu> 21WACCEWU: Well and I just learned that this isn't even a "CD" its a "SACD"
[04:50] <xwalk> I just installed openSuSE on my desktop using a flash drive that I need to reuse for other files that need to go from my current workstation running Ubuntu 13.10 to the desktop I just did the openSuSE installation on. I can't mount my flash drive that I just used as anything but read-only and it doesn't show if a "df -h" command is run. Is there any way I can reformat it?
[04:50] <buu> "Copy protection schemes include physical pit modulation and 80-bit encryption of the audio data, with a key encoded on a special area of the disk that is only readable by a licensed SACD device. The HD layer of an SACD disc cannot be played back on computer CD/DVD drives, and SACDs can only be manufactured at the disc replication facilities in Shizuoka and Salzburg.[36] [37]"
[04:51] <buu> Brilliant.
[04:51] <21WACCEWU> like I said. easier to pirate it than to play it
[04:52] <buu> Yep
[04:53] <buu> I'm ripping the conventional layer out of sheer bloody-mindedness
[04:57] <unitypunk__> ugh, wtf is wrong with my x server
[04:57] <unitypunk__> xrandr only outputs 2 video mades
[04:57] <unitypunk__> *modes
[04:57] <unitypunk__> but in the xorg log it says it got the edid
[05:00] <xwalk> It seems installing and using gparted as the solution solved the problem.
[05:00] <xwalk> I wish the default tools for disk management would actually work.
[05:02] <xwalk> Well, now the USB stick is still mounted as read-only even after I formatted it.
[05:02] <ryan_344> join #maxhelp
[05:04] <unitypunk__> x11 worked fine for years wtf,,
[05:04] <agent_white> Noob cannon question: Is there a log for what is entered in the console?  I'm having an issue where "echo 'sdf' > file" turns into "echo 'sdf > someRandomFile > file"... and I'm not sure where to look to diagnose it.
[05:14] <mskim> hello
[05:19] <kannanunni> haiii
[05:25] <duckfarts> ohai
[05:26] <duckfarts> so im trying to use firefox to start a torrent with the magnet link
[05:26] <duckfarts> and i have to choose a program to use
[05:26] <duckfarts> which is transmission
[05:26] <duckfarts> but idk how to find transmission in the file system
[05:26] <geirha> agent_white: How do you determine that?
[05:29] <geirha> agent_white: Anyway, my first guess would be an alias or function named echo. If so, ''type echo'' should tell you
[05:30] <teedou> type echo
[05:30] <Jarg_> hi all
[05:33] <agent_white> geirha: I did check my alias's and nothing was in there... and nothing turned up for that either. Thank you for that command though, never knew about it!
[05:34] <geirha> agent_white: so it just says echo is a builtin?
[05:34] <agent_white> geirha: yessir!
[05:35] <geirha> agent_white: Ok, next thing to look for would be a DEBUG trap, or some odd commands in PROMPT_COMMAND or PS1. Does ''trap -p DEBUG'' output anything?
[05:35] <mskim> network setting is hardlest work to me
[05:36] <agent_white> geirha: Will do! Give me a few here to let you know, need to install some missing packages.
[05:36] <teedou> apa ini?
[05:37] <yggdrasil> hi, im reading this.. and how do i download/compile the new codec that ist listed at the end of this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705713&page=3&s=c288a968886f7c1d06fa37a1a18ca318
[05:37] <agent_white> geirha: Also, when I hit [enter], it spilled out the command to the line below... which is odd since I know normally 'echoing to a file' shouldn't show the command entered. If that makes a difference?
[05:37] <Jarg_> anyone know how to install rails under ubuntu? im new to it and just got ubuntu virtual box working
[05:38] <geirha> agent_white: I'm still curious how you determine/see... ah, sounds like set -v and/or set -x is in effect
[05:38] <geirha> agent_white: what does ''echo "$-"'' output?
[05:38] <xangua> duckfarts: /urs/bin/transmission-gtk I believe
[05:39] <agent_white> geirha: I'll make a gist with the exact output of it!
[05:39] <yggdrasil> Jarg_: what is rails?
[05:39] <agent_white> geirha: himBH
[05:41] <somsip> Jarg_: what version of ubuntu?
[05:46] <agent_white> geirha: Here's the gist... doesn't say too much though :P https://gist.github.com/jakenotjacob/8910920
[05:47] <geirha> agent_white: Ok, did ''trap -p DEBUG'' output anything? if not, what does this say? ''declare -p PROMPT_COMMAND PS1''
[05:47] <yggdrasil> so can someone give me hand with this post ? is it the ffmpeg codec or mplayer that i need to compile ?
[05:48] <yggdrasil> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705713&page=3&s=c288a968886f7c1d06fa37a1a18ca318
[05:50] <yggdrasil> i guess its libavcodec
[05:51] <agent_white> geirha: I'll update the gist so I won't spam the channel! One sec here
[05:52] <geirha> agent_white: oh hang on, I didn't notice the exclamation mark (!) in your paste at first. If you run the same command, just without the exclamation mark, does the same thing happen?
[05:53] <agent_white> geirha: No worries! I updated the gist, though `trap -p DEBUG` gave me no output. And ... geirha you are onto something.
[05:54] <agent_white> geirha: No, only with the exclamation mark it happens.
[05:54] <agent_white> Do I need to escape that when echo'ing?
[05:54] <somsip> agent_white: use single quotes, IIRC
[05:55] <chamunks> !icinga
[05:55] <somsip> agent_white: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6697753/difference-between-single-and-double-quotes-in-bash
[05:55] <agent_white> somsip: Ahhh! Thanks for the link!
[05:56] <agent_white> geirha: Thank you very much! Gah can't thank you enough for checking out my issue! I thought I was going crazy :P
[05:56] <somsip> agent_white: the link refers speficially to the history command - !
[05:56] <agent_white> PEBKAC at its finest, eh?
[05:57] <geirha> agent_white: Personally, I don't like history expansion, so I disable it by putting ''set +H'' in my ~/.bashrc
[05:58] <agent_white> somsip/geirha: I'm actually not even familiar with history expansion... I'll do a little research and add that to my bashrc. Awesome! Thank you again!
[05:58] <geirha> In my opinion history expansion is very dangerous unless you know how it works, so it shouldn't be enabled by default
[06:01] <agent_white> Yeah that's something I think I'll steer away from for now. Gah that's relieving. Seeing it append 'iptables...' made me concerned hahah. D:
[06:01]  * agent_white stops the clamav scan
[06:06] <duckfarts> ubuntu won't reformat my usb stick
[06:06] <duckfarts> using right click reformat
[06:07] <duckfarts> and gparted isn't really working either
[06:09] <duckfarts> also i have an nvidia 400m series graphics card that isn't working with ubuntu very well
[06:09] <duckfarts> I can't use hdmi output
[06:09] <duckfarts> and my mouse likes to flicker
[06:09] <duckfarts> any suggestions?
[06:10]  * treehouse licks duckfarts in the ear
[06:11] <MichaelTunnell> ? what
[06:11] <treehouse> duckfarts: about your gfx card, it's usually (pretty much always) a driver issue. Manufacturers usually don't support linux. But I think nvidia is, for some series (so you can download it form their website).
[06:12] <treehouse> There is also some suboptimal open-source drivers for nvidia, called whatever.
[06:13] <duckfarts> ya im using a suboptimal opensource driver at the moment
[06:13] <duckfarts> when i tried installing the nvidia linux driver it didnt work
[06:14] <duckfarts> it installed and when i restarted all I could see was a weird cursor and nothing else on my home screen
[06:15] <duckfarts> but a more specific ubuntu issue: i cant use the gui to change permissions or reformat my usb drive
[06:15] <duckfarts> why is it so hard to put files on a usb stick?
[06:16] <harsesus> yah, the permissions screen in nautilus is buggy
[06:17] <treehouse> duckfarts: try sudo nautilus in a terminal
[06:17] <harsesus> i just use the terminal.  I'm sure they have gotten a fuck ton of crash reports
[06:18] <duckfarts> thanks treehouse
[06:18] <zykotick9> !gksudo | duckfarts
[06:18] <zykotick9> treehouse: ^
[06:18] <treehouse> thnx
[06:19] <harsesus> it ussually still crashes with gksudo
[06:20] <duckfarts> i would think basic functionality like writing to a usb drive would be something high on the todo list on ubuntu development
[06:22] <harsesus> are you refering to the usb startup creator, they fixed that
[06:23] <duckfarts> no being able to format the drive/write to it without using the terminal
[06:23] <harsesus> startup disk creator
[06:24] <harsesus> it was buggy, its fixed, or you can use unetbootin (i probably mistyped that)
[06:25] <duckfarts> ok
[06:26] <duckfarts> when i tried using gparted instead of the native ubuntu menus it wouldn't get along with ubuntu
[06:26] <duckfarts> i'll try startup disk creator
[06:28] <harsesus> unetbootin is pretty popular too, but you have to d/l it.  i haven't had any issues with gparted, but if it crashes you might wanna file a bug
[06:36] <zack2468> lets talk
[06:37] <zack2468> hello
[06:37] <xangua> !ot | zack2468
[06:37] <zack2468> about my ban
[06:38] <zack2468> cuz knome is off and so is unit 193
[06:39] <Beldar> zack2468, #ubuntu-ops
[06:39] <zack2468> ok
[06:40] <ses1984> i'm trying to resize an lvm group, i've never used lvm before and i'm really confused..i thought this was supposed to be easier but nothing makes sense
[06:41] <ses1984> i have a virtual machine that uses a file as a hard disk. i've cloned that file except made the maximum size 10x bigger, now i have to make whatever changes necessary to LVM
[06:41] <ses1984> and the file systems in order to be able to take advantage of that space
[06:48] <helmut_> hi
[06:52] <cyborg4> Hey,
[06:52] <cyborg4> I have a problem with my ThinkPad T30 running Lubuntu.
[06:52] <cyborg4> It's not compatible with the tp_smapi driver, so how can I gain control of my battery?
[06:53] <cyborg4> ATM I can't even get my battery to charge.
[07:03] <duckfarts> ctrl alt d isn't showing my desktop?
[07:04] <duckfarts> what is the <super> button?
[07:05] <geirha> duckfarts: The one with windows logo
[07:05] <duckfarts> oh nevermind
[07:10] <YellowGTO> Bashing-om Doh, I typed * instead of # in the comment
[07:10] <YellowGTO> That what was stopping it
[07:19] <Tom> mnemon: hello
[07:21] <lickalott> Anyone on here have a galaxy S3 or S4 that transfer files to their internal sd card?
[07:21] <lickalott> i just installed gmtp but whenever I plug the phone in I get "Error initializing camera: -60: Could not lock the device"
[07:21] <lickalott> and gmtp doesn't pick it up
[07:25] <vince_> ince
[07:25] <vince_> haha
[07:37] <ckknight> is pptp vpn server can connect to ldap server? To connect to vpn server can i use my account in ldap.
[07:39] <fumanchu33> hi
[07:41] <fumanchu33> Q: my brand new ubuntu installation won't boot on my laptop. Xorg.0.log says 'Screens found, but none have a usable configuration'. I've been told it might be a problem with an Intel graphics chipset, but I know of people installing Ubuntu on the exact same laptop. Any ideas?
[07:43] <Semor> my server's db thread occupy 60% cpu time
[07:44] <Semor> it makes other thread block for 100ms
[07:46] <fumanchu33> anyone know how to setup ubuntu just to use the basic default graphics so it won't break X with the ones it installed for me?
[07:48] <somsip> Semor: you probably need to ask in ##mysql
[07:48] <somsip> fumanchu33: you can install using the minimal ISO and then install what you want on top of that, but your question is not too clear
[07:49] <fumanchu33> somsip: the default Ubuntu installation never boots on my machine. It is configuring something that then crashes X with a "Screen configured but none of them have a usable configuration" error. What can I do?
[07:50] <somsip> !nomodeset | fumanchu33
[07:50] <fumanchu33> I tried using the xorg.conf.failsafe, but even that gives me an error
[07:50] <fumanchu33> ubottu: I have nomodeset set, x still crashes with an error
[07:50] <makara> hi. I'm trying to RDP into a Windows server using Remmina. I don't know the IP address and nslookup shows nothing, but the PC appears in Nautilus/Samba
[07:50] <somsip> fumanchu33: explain your installation process, especially with regards to video card drivers
[07:51] <fumanchu33> Um, I just did everything it asked me? There was never anything regarding video cards.
[07:51] <Ben64> makara: scan the network with nmap
[07:51] <fumanchu33> Except I ahd to use nomodeset to even enter the installation
[07:51] <makara> Ben64, what am I looking for?
[07:52] <Ben64> makara: you can scan ip ranges and ports to find a computer with the correct port open
[07:53] <maysara> hi, I recently installed MATLAB. When I start it form the launcher, I get error although it works fine by executing "sudo matlab" in terminel. How can I get the launcher to work as super user?
[07:54] <makara> Ben64, something like this: "nmap -sV -p 3389 192.168.4.1-254"
[07:55] <Ben64> makara: could work
[07:57] <wooddoor-ljf> test irc
[07:57] <somsip> !test | wooddoor-ljf
[07:59] <fumanchu33> somsip: any ideas?
[08:00] <somsip> fumanchu33: what is your video card?
[08:00] <fumanchu33> somsip: i have no idea, how do i find out?
[08:01] <fumanchu33> somsip: when I do lspci it says under VGA: Intel Haswell ULT Integrated Graphics Controller rev 09
[08:01] <fumanchu33> Is that the one you're talking about?
[08:01] <somsip> fumanchu33: sudo lshw -c Video
[08:01] <somsip> fumanchu33: and what version of ubuntu?
[08:01] <fumanchu33> the newest one (13.10 i think)
[08:02] <fumanchu33> somsip: lshw says : display UNCLAIMED, VGA compatible controller, product: Haswell-ULT Integratred Graphics Controller
[08:02] <somsip> fumanchu33: asus zenbook?
[08:04] <fumanchu33> somsip: no, NEC LaVie
[08:04] <makara> Ben64, there too many to look through
[08:05] <somsip> fumanchu33: then I'd suggest searching for that disply card or that laptop. That's all I'm doing for you, and I have other things to do right now. Read around the subject and see what you can find, and try here later when there are more people on
[08:05] <fumanchu33> thanks i guess lol
[08:05] <makara> My colleague simply put in the name of the PC on his Windows machine. So I'm guessing the domain controller is doing some address translation
[08:06] <makara> i'm just curious that Nautilus can find it
[08:07] <makara> got it, using nmblookup!
[08:07] <Ben64> you can sometimes use a local dns server to look it up\
[08:07] <makara> it's a Netbios name
[08:07] <Ben64> $ host COMPY 192.168.1.1 \\\\\ COMPY has address 192.168.1.236
[08:15] <syafiq> anyone here can help me install and configure nagios server?? i tried to install in centos 6.5 but failed so far
[08:16] <greeter> greetings. i recently did apt-get upgrade and the upgrade seems to have run, but it told me to try running apt-get --fix-missing because some archives couldn't be fetched
[08:17] <greeter> when i tried that though, it simply provided a list of commands with options. has the option to do that been changed?
[08:25] <ocx> hello all! i would like to have like a small webserver on my local computer that allowss me to see my local images as thumbail nad allow me to upload my selected images into my cloud server, any full sofware that does it? thank you alot!
[08:31] <user258467> Hi, how do I disable Super+P, every time I use this sequence it change my screen setup
[08:31] <ocx> anyone?
[08:32] <somsip> ocx: you need to explain more. What images? What cloud server?
[08:33] <aeon-ltd> user258467: have you looked at this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keybindings
[08:33] <ocx> somsip: i have some local images, i need to see them in my browser , seelct some of them and send them to a remote server using any kind of segmented filestransfer protocol so that if the line breaks, the transfer restores when the connection is back
[08:34] <ttal> would there be a specific reason why I'm sporadically getting the "This video is currently unavailable." message in youtube? Is this a flash or codec issue?
[08:34] <user258467> aeon-ltd, I look every keybindings that are configured but there is no Super+P
[08:34] <somsip> ocx: Then you need something on your server that can POST the image via an HTTP request to something that can receive the HTTP POST on the server and take some action with it. Sound like you need something built around PHP to me
[08:35] <ocx> somsip: any software you can point me to? i cant find any..
[08:36] <somsip> ocx: I'd write my own if I needed to do that. I remember using 'uploadify' as the basis for this last time I needed to use a file upload thingy.
[08:39] <ocx> somsip: mainly uploadify is accessed via webserver? you select your local files and press upload so they get uploaded on that webserver righT?
[08:40] <somsip> ocx: basically, yes (from memory)
[08:41] <ocx> somsip: my case is the webserver will show the pictures in a certain directory as thumbail, so no need to upload the files myself, then i would select the files in that directory and press upload (will take these local files into a remote server)
[08:41] <changeguy> ok so i have up to date android browsers, and ubuntu jaunty with fire fox 8 as browser choices. firefox has update channels listed in jaunty and flash works. should i use mobile browsers for more security or stick to firefox 8?
[08:42] <hewomust> why do you have jaunty?
[08:42] <somsip> ocx: I think you need to be defining your problems clearly, and then looking for solutions that are close to what you want. Depending on what the server is doing with images when it receives them, HTTP might not be the best approach. It is just easy if you have to roll your own though
[08:42] <changeguy> im on an android phone and it is the OS that came with the webtop
[08:42] <hewomust> i would just use an android browser
[08:43] <ocx> somsip: so better write my own thumbnail server ?
[08:43] <hewomust> it will run quicker on the hardware
[08:43] <rudjgaard> hi, I need some help with starting gnome after sleep/suspend, I researched but none of the commands i know works
[08:43] <changeguy> right but firefox is more ergonmical sence it actually uses the full keyboad and is smooth
[08:43] <somsip> ocx: better for you to have a firm idea of the problem you're trying to solve. Then look at appropriate solutions.
[08:44] <changeguy> what is an update channel? does the browser get secruity updates still?
[08:44] <hewomust> changeguy: if youre using a keyboard use firefox
[08:44] <changeguy> is it secure?
[08:44] <hewomust> probably not
[08:45] <changeguy> it says 8.0 you are on the update channel
[08:45] <changeguy> morotoral
[08:45] <ocx> somsip: somsip my problem is  i need to secure these images and i need a nice graphical way of selecting these images and uploadingthem to my personal server
[08:45] <hewomust> changeguy security updates stopped in 2010
[08:45] <hewomust> for jaunty
[08:46] <cxvision0001cxvi> ##G3
[08:46] <cxvision0001cxvi> #$G   0
[08:46] <cxvision0001cxvi> #$G   1
[08:47] <somsip> ocx: And you need to break that problem down further. What does 'secure' mean? What is your 'personal server'? These are rhetorical questions of course. Can you use SFTP with a graphical FTP client that shows thumbnails? Is there one? Etc, etc...
[08:48] <Yerushalmi> whoever, jhutchins: I removed and reinstalled my wifi card.
[08:49] <Yerushalmi> whoever, jhutchins: I've been roughly handling my computer for the last twenty minutes, including deliberately picking it up when I'm about to cough (I've been sick all week), and it hasn't droplinked even once.
[08:49] <Yerushalmi> whoever, jhutchins: So thank you so much for all the help! I don't see TJ- in channel right now, but if you could pass my thanks on to him as well that would be awesome.
[09:04] <navneet> hi
[09:22] <fumanchu33> exit
[09:33] <linu1> hi all i bought a new truly camera module CM5326-B500BA-E-V1 DW9712L,when i insert into ubuntu pc it listed in lsusb Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e0:1900 Symbol Technologies SNAPI Imaging Device,but not in /dev, is there any driver for that device available?
[09:34] <greeter> linu1: have you tried installing gphoto2? i think it comes with drivers for accessing digital cameras
[09:35] <ttal> i just installed xubuntu, would I need to install xubuntu extras? Or does xubuntu contain all the goody by default these days?
[09:35] <ttal> goodies*
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ttal: yes xubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <ttal> would that be why I'm sporadically getting the "This video is currently unavailable." message in youtube? Is this a flash or codec issue?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> ttal: try the restricted extras package, see if it helps
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> ttal: which browser(s) have you tried?
[09:45] <usr13> ttal: xubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:45] <usr13> ttal: Maybe the video is just unavailable, (as youtube says).
[09:46] <Noonethinksofthi> So I've once again deleted a partition of a multi o/s hard drive that also messe dup my grub boot-loader. Can I fix it from within windows at all? I just can't be effed copying another live usb to run boot-repair on.
[09:46] <ttal> usr13: happens so often though. It's unlike youtube..
[09:46] <ttal> Just started happening on this box.
[09:46] <usr13> ttal: Are you using firefox?
[09:47] <usr13> ttal: Is the date/time correct?
[09:48] <ttal> chromium.
[09:48] <ttal> my system date/time is correct.
[09:48] <tewn> use google hacks
[09:49] <usr13> ttal: I don't have any problems (with firefox).
[09:50] <ttal> tewn: Whats that?
[09:50] <usr13> ttal: But if you are getting "This video is currently unavailable." it sounds like something that is beyond the scope of your system.
[09:50] <ttal> yeah appears that way. Because sites in general are ok.
[09:50] <ttal> Maybe a regional thing?..
[09:51] <usr13> ttal: Could be.
[09:51] <ttal> Was trying to see a Jimmy Kimmel clip, and im in New Zealand.
[09:52] <randomclown> hey with upstart scripts you can automatically restart the servicce it dies, can I use it to start more than 3 processes and use upstart to keep watch on all of them?
[09:53] <usr13> ttal: I think you are just a victum of circumstance.
[09:53] <randomclown> without need to write 3 next to identitical .conf files that is
[09:54] <usr13> ttal: sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
[09:54] <usr13> ttal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/403363/this-video-is-currently-unavailable-youtube
[09:55] <usr13> ttal: "clear your cache and cookies"
[09:56] <ttal> incognito window worked...
[09:56] <ttal> hmm so what would that mean.
[09:56] <usr13> i dono
[09:57] <usr13> I don't use chromium, I use firefox, (and I do not have that problem).
[09:57] <ttal> maybe suggests the regional thing? incognito meaning hiding my identity / location?
[09:57] <usr13> I dono
[09:57] <ttal> ok, ill keep testing, thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
[09:57] <usr13> Yea, let us know
[09:59] <usr13> ttal: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22This+video+is+currently+unavailable.%22+youtube&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[10:01] <Arcanis_> Hello. I don't really know what I did but I need help xD.
[10:01] <greeter> umm, ok... what's the problem you're having Arcanis_?
[10:01] <usr13> ttal: You might switch to nameserver 8.8.8.8
[10:02] <Arcanis_> Ubuntu 13.10, just installed it to check it out.  came with xorg nvidia driver.
[10:02] <ttal> usr13: what do you mean by that?
[10:02] <Arcanis_> Tried to remove that and install the one from the nvidia website.
[10:02] <Arcanis_> But the problem is, when I turn it on, it takes me to the terminal and doesn't load the GUI.
[10:02] <usr13> ttal: Change your dns server(s)
[10:02] <usr13> ttal: On your router, or on your system.
[10:02] <Arcanis_> It is either that or because I installed cinnamon.
[10:02] <Arcanis_> But I uninstalled that.
[10:03] <linu1> greeter, yes even i tried with gphoto2 but it does not give me any device in  /dev/ directory.
[10:03] <usr13> Arcanis_: Check the date on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:03] <usr13> Arcanis_: Did you trun off the X server when you installed it?
[10:03] <greeter> hmm. have you checked your camera settings? sometimes cameras offer multiple connection types
[10:04] <usr13> ttal: Edit /etc/resolv.conf  and add lines nameserver 8.8.8.8
[10:04] <Arcanis_> usr13 I'm not entirely sure. I just used sudo apt-get remove xorg-server
[10:04] <Arcanis_> And then, sudo sh nvidiadriver
[10:04] <usr13> Arcanis_: You removed xrog-server?
[10:04] <Arcanis_> Yep
[10:05] <Arcanis_> The Nvidia driver wouldnt run with it on.
[10:05] <usr13> Arcanis_: Not sure why you did that....
[10:05] <Arcanis_> Said it couldn't be installed.
[10:05] <Arcanis_> Because I'm new at this :D
[10:05] <Arcanis_> So basically what you are saying is to reinstall it?
[10:05] <usr13> Arcanis_: It said it couldn't be installed because the X server was running.  reinstall xorg-server
[10:05] <Arcanis_> Alright be back when that's done. I need help figuring out nvidia..
[10:05] <Arcanis_> Thanks.
[10:06] <usr13> Arcanis_: What you should have done is  "service lightdm stop"
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Arcanis_: if you want to use the driver from nvidia.com (for whatever reason)
[10:06] <Arcanis_> ALright.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Arcanis_: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode then select root
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Arcanis_: there is nvidia-current in the repos which will autoupdate for you as well as complete DKMS on kernel upgrades
[10:06] <usr13> Arcanis_: Yea or as ActionParsnip suggests, you can reboot into text mode.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Arcanis_: I suggest you use that
[10:09] <ttal> usr13: Looks like your initial solution of "sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra" worked. Thanks!
[10:10] <linu1> greeter yes it is isi camera but it now it interfaced with usb,i just connected using usb cable only.
[10:11] <greeter> hmm... i'm not sure what the issue could be. maybe a driver for that particular camera hasn't been released yet. is it a new camera?
[10:11] <linu1> greeter yes actually i bought it from my friend for r&d,it is new one.
[10:12] <greeter> then maybe it's just a question of waiting till the driver comes out. i've found gphoto2 is usually very fast at releasing linux drivers for cameras
[10:12] <greeter> you can try checking their website, see if your camera model is listed there
[10:13] <greeter> if it is listed and you installed gphoto2 from the repo, you might try compiling from source or using one of their binaries if available, you can sometimes get newer versions of software that way
[10:15] <lok-jpr-india> how to setup openssl certificates..anyone plz..where to start for them...!
[10:16] <andreino> ciao a tutti
[10:16] <linu1> greeter,yes i installed gphoto2 but there is no binaries related to that camera,anyhow thanks,i will try
[10:16] <andreino> !list
[10:24] <lschuetze> Anyone familar with suspend and ACPI? Got a problem right here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203563
[10:41] <PurplePeople> Hi guys. I can't make screenshots. When I press "Prnt" I cant insert the image into any image editor like GIMP. Why is that?
[10:41] <PurplePeople> And no "save"-dialog appears
[10:43] <geirha> PurplePeople: what *does* happen?
[10:43] <geirha> PurplePeople: Post a screenshot of what happens when you take a screenshot ^^
[10:44] <PurplePeople> geirha: The images are only stored in $HOME/Pictures. But no save-dialog appears.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> PurplePeople: you can install applications like shutter
[10:46] <PurplePeople> Ok. Problem solved.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:00] <Sven_vB> hi. anyone knows a simple CLI temperature converter? "units" doesn't know °F, deg F, and F seems to be about mass.
[11:00] <FashionGi> hi
[11:00] <cfhowlett> FashionGi, greetings
[11:02] <MickS> Sven_vB: tempF and tempC in units
[11:03] <Sven_vB> thx
[11:04] <Sven_vB> MickS, "Error in '10 tempF': Parse error"
[11:04] <str3ss> et hop re
[11:05] <shadowphrogg3264> hi guys
[11:06] <shadowphrogg3264> anyone care to help to solve a strange dhcp error?
[11:06] <gordonjcp> !ask | shadowphrogg3264
[11:07] <shadowphrogg3264> gordonjcp: sorry, so the issue is that I had a blackout 2 days ago, router rebooted, leases ip to all other machines
[11:07] <shadowphrogg3264> but not for the ubuntu server
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Sven_vB: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/184539-converting-centigrade-fahrenheit-vice-versa.html
[11:08] <shadowphrogg3264> dhclient -r; dhclient -v eth0 cannot find a dhcp server
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: if you set the IP manually is it ok?
[11:09] <master_op> hello, i asked here before on how to setup an smtp server, and someone told me that i can use mailgun, after registration i have the following message : Your account is disabled. Business verification is required.
[11:09] <master_op> !smtp
[11:09] <shadowphrogg3264> in network/interfaces?
[11:10] <master_op> !postfix
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: however you like, you can even use ifconfig if you like
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: is this a wired connection?
[11:14] <shadowphrogg3264> yep
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: tried the wire in a different port on the router?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: or a different cable?
[11:15] <shadowphrogg3264> different port check
[11:15] <shadowphrogg3264> different cable check
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> do the lights flash on the ethernet port itself?
[11:15] <shadowphrogg3264> static ip fail
[11:15] <shadowphrogg3264> yes light flashes periodically
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: does a known OK system work ok on the same cable in the same port on the router?
[11:15] <shadowphrogg3264> like there's act on the link
[11:16] <shadowphrogg3264> not tried yet
[11:16] <shadowphrogg3264> tried 3 ports, 2 cables
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: might be the nic on the system
[11:17] <shadowphrogg3264> damn, it's onboard
[11:18] <shadowphrogg3264> ifconfig shows allright though
[11:18] <shadowphrogg3264> also I can ifup/down without no error
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> shadowphrogg3264: if you ifup do you get dhcp?
[11:19] <master_op> can i install postfix to just end email and not receiving ?
[11:19] <ikonia_> master_op: it's an mta - you can use it for just outgoing mail
[11:21] <shadowphrogg3264> ActionParsnip: nope, same DHCPDISCOVER shower happens
[11:21] <master_op> good, can i use it to send from php (for exp), and put smtp : localhost ?
[11:21] <shadowphrogg3264> and then no servers found
[11:21] <ikonia_> master_op: yes, sure if you configure it like that
[11:22] <master_op> is there any tutorial to configure it ? i followed the main tuto on ubuntu website but i cannot send mail
[11:23] <ikonia_> master_op: many tutorials on the web, however they are all hit/miss, you need to have a bit of knowledge about how mail servers work and work through trouble shooting it
[11:23] <ikonia_> master_op: eg: is this a home connection or a machine in a data center ?
[11:24] <master_op> hom connection, but i want to test and  deploy it in a VPS
[11:24] <hitsujiTMO> master_op: it wont work in a home connection. ISPs block port 25
[11:24] <ikonia_> master_op: ok, so if you are using a home connection, you should look to relay through your ISP's mail server too, as your home connection will probably be black listed, and some ISP's will block port 25 - although some won't, you need to check
[11:24] <ikonia_> hitsujiTMO: not all do,
[11:25] <master_op> ok
[11:25] <master_op> thank you all
[11:26] <shadowphrogg3264> damn, there was a short-circuit on the branch the machines are on
[11:26] <Arcanis_> Alright, I was finally able to get back to my desktop. What is the correct way to install an Nvidia driver without breaking Xorg?
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia_: true i guess, i have just yet to come across a residential ISP that doesn't
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: what gpu do you have, and what version if ubuntu?
[11:28] <Arcanis_> Ubuntu 13.10, Nvidia GTX 650 TI
[11:28] <Arcanis_> Already went to the website and downloaded the nvidia driver for linux x64.
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: just: sudo apt-get install nvidia-319
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: don't install from the website, install from the ubuntu repos
[11:29] <Arcanis_> Will it be the same as that Xorg crap?
[11:29] <Arcanis_> Or will it actually be the nvidia driver with the nvidia control panel?
[11:29] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: is the nvidia driver
[11:30] <Arcanis_> Alright thanks. It's running now.
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: its just packaged specifically to run well with the existing xorg and kernel that you're using
[11:34] <Arcanis_> So after installing the driver, restart, and it should take effect?
[11:34] <ARNOLD-TELECOM_> msg acrocity hi don man
[11:35] <ARNOLD-TELECOM_> usage
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: yup. it should have triggered a generation of the xorg.conf so a restart should all be whats needed
[11:35] <Arcanis_> Thank you very much hitsujiTMO
[11:35] <Arcanis_> I think I shall be in here a bit now that I'm playing with Ubuntu :D
[11:35] <Arcanis_> Be back.
[11:36] <ARNOLD-TELECOM_> msg Arcanis hi
[11:42] <Arcanis_> By Nvidia driver, did you mean Nvidia X Server?
[11:42] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: its the nvidia kernel module and xserver driver
[11:42] <Arcanis_> It failed to start once. The cursor kept flashing. Then the second time it worked and generated a few errors for xorg.
[11:43] <Arcanis_> Ahh. Is there any way to get the control panel similar to Windows?
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: can you pastebin the contents of: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:43] <Arcanis_> To adjust settings.
[11:43] <Arcanis_> One second.
[11:44] <ActionPa1snip> ARNOLD-TELECOM_: you need to prefix commands with slashes
[11:44] <ActionPa1snip> ARNOLD-TELECOM_: eg:   /msg user hi
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: nvidia-settings-319   is the nvidia control panel
[11:44] <Arcanis_> Oh thank you!
[11:45] <hitsujiTMO> ok sorry, have to go, someone else should be able to chime in and help you further with any issues
[11:46] <Arcanis_> hitsujiTMO, there are two.
[11:46] <Arcanis_> There is a .old also
[11:46] <Arcanis_> Oh alright.
[11:46] <Arcanis_> Thanks for the help.
[11:46] <Arcanis_> Do you want the paste in here still?
[11:47] <Arcanis_> Should be fine. It is working now.
[11:48] <shadowphrogg3264> re
[11:49] <shadowphrogg3264> I crafted a loopback cable
[11:49] <shadowphrogg3264> able to ping myself thru that
[11:50] <shadowphrogg3264> nope, it was thru lo
[11:57] <svsurvase> i am not able to install update
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: can you use http://pastie.org   and give the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: or use a different pastebin if you desire
[11:59] <svsurvase> how yo get that update
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: can you please run the command I gave and pastebin the output. Thanks
[12:01] <ntz> hello
[12:01] <ntz> does askbuntu have some moderators ?
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> ntz: i'd ask in #askubuntu
[12:02] <ntz> good point :), thanks .. didn't poll alis
[12:02] <ActionPa1snip> ntz: seems to be #ubuntu-stack
[12:03] <Xamus> Hello - ciao :)
[12:04] <svsurvase> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:04] <svsurvase> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: are updates installing presently?
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: or are you installing a package?
[12:04] <shadowphrogg3264> (1:04:04 PM) svsurvase: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:04] <shadowphrogg3264> (1:04:05 PM) svsurvase: E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:04] <shadowphrogg3264> do you sudo?
[12:04] <svsurvase> E: crossplatformui: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[12:05] <Sven_vB> ActionPa1snip, thanks
[12:05] <svsurvase> this error i am getting while installing an update
[12:05] <ActionPa1snip> !fixapt | svsurvase
[12:07] <Rory> svsurvase: Are you making sure to use "sudo apt-get update" so it is running with the necessary privileges?
[12:08] <svsurvase> yes
[12:08] <iko1> thanks
[12:08] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: does the command ubottu gave, help?
[12:08] <svsurvase> no
[12:09] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: can you pastebin the output please??
[12:09] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: how can we possibly advise when we cannot see the results of the commands we give
[12:09] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: we cannot see your screen, and a flat 'no' tells us less than nothing
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: think about it.....
[12:10] <chemist^> !details | svsurvase
[12:11] <svsurvase> update getting installed but with error i recenently told
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> svsurvase: use http://pastie.org   copy ALL the text from the terminal and make a paastebin of the text so we can see what is happening
[12:12] <chemist^> :D
[12:13] <chemist^> svsurvase, you could install "pastebinit" ... sudo apt-get install pastebinit ... and then just issue a command and append the pastebinit - it will automatically paste your output to pastebin, and give you an URL.... example: "sudo apt-get update | pastebinit"
[12:13] <svsurvase> thank you
[12:22] <shibly> Hi
[12:22] <ActionPa1snip> hi shibly
[12:22] <dhenden> Hi all, I am having issues on a 8.0.4 LTS installation where I cannot seem to get new cron jobs to run
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: does the system have a desktop UI?
[12:23] <dhenden> in root user, ran crontab -e, added * * * * * /bin/echo "Test" >> /tmp/test123.txt
[12:23] <dhenden> any ideas?
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: does the system have a desktop UI?
[12:24] <dhenden> no only cli
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: is cron running as a service?
[12:25] <dhenden> Yea i ran ps aux | cron
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: what does: service cron status       output?
[12:27] <dhenden> returns usage, (start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload)
[12:27] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: then you didnt run it right.
[12:28] <dhenden> there are already crons running, checked syslog /USR/SBIN/CRON[21656]:  CMD (/bin/local/qd live >/dev/null 2>&1)
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: is /tmp writable?
[12:29] <dhenden> yea checked the permissions
[12:31] <shadowphrogg3264> yanked in a SMC-made RTL8139 based NIC
[12:31] <shadowphrogg3264> it works
[12:31] <dhenden> even tried restarting cron service :S
[12:32] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: try every 2 seconds for teh job.
[12:33] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: do other cron jobs work ok?
[12:33] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: when you made the crontab, did the system report that it was added ok?
[12:34] <dhenden> yea fine, If I change it I can see "crontab[11209]: (root) LIST (root)
[12:34] <dhenden> in syslog
[12:35] <Waraqa> Hi, How can I know which account ubuntuone-client is connected to?
[12:36] <Nothing_Much> Question, how is a Radeon Xpress 200 on Mir/Xmir?
[12:36] <Nothing_Much> *XMir
[12:37] <Waraqa> Where is the file that store account information of u1sdtool?
[12:37] <fibz_> id expect it to go to unity2d and suck
[12:37] <LumberJackTeam> how can i change the apps bar to the right side
[12:38] <dougl> morning
[12:38] <shadowphrogg3264> thanks all
[12:38] <shadowphrogg3264> bye
[12:38] <Nothing_Much> How well does a Radeon Xpress 200 run on Mir/XMir?
[12:38] <dhenden> sorry got called awau
[12:38] <dhenden> *away
[12:38] <fibz_> id expect it to go to unity2d and suck
[12:38] <dhenden> back now
[12:38] <fibz_> @ Nothing4You
[12:38] <fibz_> @ Nothing_Much
[12:39] <fibz_> your better off with xfce
[12:39] <Nothing_Much> Darn
[12:39] <Nothing4You> fibz_: what
[12:39] <Nothing_Much> I really can't stand XFCE
[12:39] <somsip> !mir | Nothing4You (it's not in production yet)
[12:39] <LumberJackTeam> how can i change the apps bar to the right side?
[12:39] <Nothing4You> unity sucksa
[12:39] <Nothing4You> agreed
[12:39] <fibz_> Nothing4You, sorry, auto-complete fail
[12:40] <Nothing_Much> Unity is awesome, I hate xfce
[12:40] <dhenden> hmmm really at a lost end with this one, even tried editing /etc/crontab and crontab~ but still not run
[12:40] <Nothing_Much> Nothing4You: Sorry about my username >.>
[12:40] <Nothing4You> unity sucks
[12:40] <Nothing4You> fluxbox ftw
[12:40] <fibz_> then try it out, but i know the xpress200 will lag
[12:40] <Nothing4You> Nothing_Much: at least you stopped those failcompletes in #defocus :P
[12:40] <Nothing_Much> lol
[12:40] <Nothing_Much> Well I need a better graphics chip
[12:41] <Nothing_Much> A Radeon HD 2000 or 3000 series would do for me :(
[12:41] <gr33n7007h> dhenden,  try removing file extensions
[12:41] <Mandlekin> Hello
[12:41] <Waraqa> I have the token of ubuntuone-client but how can I find the email and password?
[12:41] <Mandlekin> I have question
[12:42] <Waraqa> I don't know which account it is connected to
[12:42] <Mandlekin> If a woman is with a black man, she is soiled beyond any cleansing?
[12:42] <somsip> !o4o | Mandlekin
[12:42] <Mandlekin> Nice bro
[12:42] <Mandlekin> I care?
[12:42] <Mandlekin> bastard
[12:42] <somsip> !ops
[12:43] <Nothing4You> lol
[12:44] <somsip> Waraqa: what legitimate reason whould you have for wanting to do that?
[12:45] <Waraqa> somsip: I installed ubuntu one long time ago and forgot my account info
[12:45] <somsip> Waraqa: but you kept a token? It doesn't sound likely...
[12:45] <Waraqa> I need to get them again rather than create a new account
[12:46] <dhenden> hmmm really at a lost end with this one, even tried editing /etc/crontab and crontab~ but still not running
[12:46] <Waraqa> somsip: I found the token in gnome kerying manager
[12:47] <Waraqa> somsip: I'm connected to the account now but I don't remember which email I used
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> dhenden: if you run:   crontab -l    do you see the job?
[12:48] <somsip> Waraqa: never used it, so I can't help. I'd imagine there was a 'reminder email' on there somewhere but maybe not
[12:48] <Hanumaan> how to give permission to specific user after mounting through NFS ? what kind of options should be there in exports and fstab ?
[12:48] <tux_addict> hello :-) i want to switch the led of my webcam, its fired with a uvcvideo driver. is it the right direction to get the soutcecode of that driver, modify it and recompile it ?
[12:48] <laze1989> Anyone with some experience with ACPI and sleep? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203563 The lid open/close ACPI events are recognized but the laptop is not waking up on lid open :(
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> Hanumaan: nfs follows normal linux permissions so just set the permissions on the monted data as you expect
[12:50] <ActionPa1snip> Hanumaan: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-ubuntu-nfs-server-configuration-howto/
[12:50] <chemist^> laze1989, i personally never use "sleep" or "hibernation" ... it's useless
[12:50] <tux_addict> agree on chemnist. the re wake ups needs more power then it saves if im not seriously mistaken
[12:50] <chemist^> laze1989, but, you could try out the "gnome-tweak-tool" or smth like that
[12:51] <chemist^> yap, the computer on idle, with monitor turned off, doesn't eat up that much power
[12:51] <chemist^> why would anyone use the "sleep" mode?
[12:51] <laze1989> tux_addict, I want it to restart faster not to safe power. Sleep sucks a lot more power compared to sleeping under windows.
[12:52] <tux_addict> laze1989: u wont be faster waking ur machine up from sleepmode, then from idle !
[12:53] <laze1989> chemist^, I am using a laptop and if you're walking around for quick meetings it's better to just sleep and wakeup. But nvm, I dont want to talk about the pros and cons just get it working ;)
[12:53] <chemist^> laze1989, it's even better to just have it running and not sleeping
[12:53] <Hanumaan> ActionPa1snip, I want the same permissions which exist on the nfs server to all the nfs clients
[12:53] <laze1989> tux_addict, I dont know if we're meaning the same but I mean to suspend the machien.
[12:53] <chemist^> laze1989, just enable the setting to turn your screen of when you close the lid
[12:53] <chemist^> off*
[12:54] <Hanumaan> ActionPa1snip, as of now once it is mounted getting root permissions and only root can write
[12:54] <tux_addict> laze1989 me too. the suspend mode and its recovery needs lots of time and energy. ull be faster and more efficient just with idle and a disabled screen. the only thing left would be ur harddisks, which u might not want to keep on spinning when carrieng ur book around.
[12:56] <laze1989> tux_addict, Yea but upon taking the laptop in it's case and put it in my rucksack it'll become hot in there. Just turning off the screen is not my use case. Sorry.
[12:56] <ActionPa1snip> Hanumaan: then the 2nd link I gave may help, you can give certain access based on system and so forth
[12:57] <tux_addict> laze1989 ah i think i understand now. for that usage i woul prefer to power it off. the boot process dont take more than a minute anyways
[12:58] <tux_addict> laze1989 but u may have a look under ur exact notebook type and acpi under ur favourite search engine. it may be others have already solved that.
[12:58] <laze1989> tux_addict, Nevertheless I would like to fix the laptop is not resuming upon lid open. The event is recognized by acpid/acpi_listen. Calling pm-suspend then will not change anything so I am looking whats responsible for that.
[12:59] <tux_addict> laze1989 sure, makes sense. what exakt type of notebook u got tzhere ?
[13:00] <laze1989> tux_addict, Samsung Series 7 Chronos 700Z3A-S02DE :) There are several people with Samsung devices and a similar problem.
[13:01] <laze1989> tux_addict, /proc/acpi/wakeup does not list LID0 as wakeup device. Changing the OSI to different windows versions doesnt change it either.
[13:02] <chemist^> laze1989, did you take a look at gnome-tweak-tool?: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-tweak-tool-a-tool-for-changing-specialised-or-advanced-gnome3-settings.html
[13:02] <tux_addict> laze1989 ah i see... sorry laze, i fear i cant help you on this then. i saw that there brand new forum topics about it which remain unanswered by now. hm, maybe smbdy else here can, or u may file a bugreport. or u could try askubuntu too.
[13:03] <laze1989> chemist^, I used it in older versions of Ubuntu. But the laptop does to sleep on lid close. Lid open is my problem :)
[13:04] <||arifaX> laze1989: on my acer lt I have to use the cursor keys once to resume, maybe same at your machine?
[13:04] <tux_addict> laze1989 u laso may want to test the freshest kernel available, could be a chance too.
[13:04] <laze1989> ||arifaX, I need to press the power button to resume
[13:05] <dhenden> really weird, thanks for your help guys. Exited term (working remotely) reconnected and now cron is running fine :|
[13:06] <laze1989> tux_addict, Since the event is recognized by ACPI I thought it would be a problem in the software stack of Ubuntu.
[13:21] <Hix> 1
[13:28] <LumberJackTeam> the brits say that ubuntu is safe for consumption
[13:28] <LumberJackTeam> how can i change the apps bar to the right side?
[13:33] <jamie_> is there an apt proxy program that simply acts as a transparent proxy?
[13:33] <makara> most of my colleagues use Skype. We need a company-wide messenger system. Suggest platform independent, reliable alternative?
[13:33] <makara> Groupwise messenger was nice back in the day
[13:34] <jamie_> I'd like to be able to just set a simple config on the clients and then have them download the files from a centralised local location
[13:34] <jamie_> so my 4 vms aren't repeatedly downloading the same 100M of files with apt-get
[13:34] <ActionPa1snip> jamie_: like a LAN based repo?
[13:34] <ActionPa1snip> jamie_: rather than all systems going to the web for packages?
[13:35] <w0rmie> i'va probelm using tftp server under xinetd to get the boot image from my main machine (server), it gives always the message tftp open timeout
[13:35] <jamie_> ActionPa1snip: like a LAN based repo crossed with squid
[13:35] <jamie_> ActionPa1snip: although I am actually using vagrant, all the hosts are local vms
[13:36] <makara> jamie_, use squi-deb-proxy
[13:36] <makara> jamie_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3503/best-way-to-cache-apt-downloads-on-a-lan
[13:36] <makara> jamie_, squid-deb-proxy
[13:36] <makara> it's zero-conf based, so the client will scan the LAN for a proxy and use it
[13:36] <jamie_> makara: thanks, I'd not seen that yet.  I'll check it out
[13:37] <makara> I've used it. It's great
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> jamie_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-make-my-own-local-repository
[13:37] <makara> I've tried apt-cache, but it doesn't handle multiple version nicely
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> jamie_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Create-a-LAN-Repository-with-Apt-Cacher-45978.shtml
[13:38] <jamie_> ActionPa1snip: also thanks
[13:38] <makara> read my comment at the bottom! :)
[13:38] <itsprdp> @kreitcher hi !
[13:39] <bmxscott1993> can some one help me how do i get  AMD Catalyst Control Center and how do i get it to work on my x1550 card i tryed it like 5 time and it go in to low mod but i have unintalled it and tryed othere way on ubuntu 13.10
[13:48] <Xuisce1> hi all
[13:51] <Sylario> I'm trying to do a 'sudo apt-get install wkhtmltopdf' and i have a bunch of warning that files ending by "Ubuntu4.4" cannot be found, after looking on the servers, version available ends by "ubuntu4.5" and higher. WHat does that 4.4 means exactly?
[13:53] <Xuisce1> hi all
[13:53] <Busybyeski> I have a /movie/ directory, full of many other directories of movie titles.  How can I sort these directories by their recursive size, either in CLI or GUI?
[13:53] <Boogeyman> anyone familiar with conky?
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> Busybyeski: du -sch * | sort
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> Busybyeski: or read the sort man page for better options
[13:54] <Busybyeski> i'll have to look into du as well, thanks ActionPa1snip!
[13:56] <fidel> Boogeyman: consider #conky
[13:56] <Boogeyman> ust found it, thanks
[13:56] <Hanumaan> present configuration of nfs http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909253/ but user or the root unable to write in the client ..
[13:56] <Boogeyman> +j
[13:57] <Hanumaan> ActionPa1snip, I have tried the option what you gave but still seems to be not working ..
[13:58] <Busybyeski> in this case, looks like "du | sort -g | less" is the right way to do it. g flag goes off numeric value.
[13:59] <cypher-neo> Ugh. I like readable outputs better. Try "du -a -d1 -c -h | sort -h"
[14:00] <Busybyeski> :O it's beautiful and you tricked me into reading more
[14:04] <fixmypc956> Can someone assist in getting owncloud for ubuntu server finished or re-direct me to where I can get help with this issue?
[14:04] <Busybyeski> what's a conventional way to organize tv/movie media in the Videos directory?
[14:07] <Busybyeski> or a better question.. is "Videos" expected to exist anywhere, or could I just break it down further into different types of media?
[14:09] <JustSomeGuy> hi i want to add an application to the launcher via the cli. how would i do that?
[14:11] <xdotcommer> When I put this in "rc.local"  it does not start my script /usr/bin/screen -dm /home/my_bash_script.sh
[14:11] <xdotcommer> am i doing something wrong
[14:13] <natural> i just wanted to say thanks. Ubuntu is doing a great job.
[14:14] <bitspark> hi
[14:14] <tomixxx3> hi, i have ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, what package do i need if i want to use "inet dhcp" in "interfaces" file?
[14:16] <BPSTravis> That's defalt behavior??
[14:16] <tomixxx3> i have uninstalled the network manager
[14:16] <BPSTravis> well why did you do that :P
[14:16] <tomixxx3> long story ;)
[14:17] <BPSTravis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=network-manager
[14:17] <BPSTravis> :)
[14:17] <ActionPa1snip> tomixxx3: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces    will give write access to the file
[14:17] <tomixxx3> BPSTravis: ty
[14:17] <BPSTravis> tomixxx3 NP
[14:17] <stepjohn> Hi, just wondering if you can help ,me. When i try to install skype or steam (both 32 bit) on my 64 bit system it fails with dep errors. So I tracked down the problem. Basically if I try to install libxcb1:i386 it tries to remove half my system. I'm running 13.10.
[14:18] <stepjohn> Just wondering if this is just my system being strange or if there is a problem with that package.
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> stepjohn: run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[14:18] <SwedeMike> stepjohn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System   option 1 is probably what you want to do
[14:19] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: my system is in a consistent state so install -f doesn't do anything
[14:20] <stepjohn> SwedeMike: 13.10 doesn't have the ia32-libs
[14:21] <SwedeMike> stepjohn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182653 solves your problem?
[14:22] <ActionPa1snip> stepjohn: then your packages are fine and the deps for skype and steam are satisfied
[14:24] <bitspark> hi i am using ubuntu 12.04 when i try to install firm ware for linux kernal driver it show error with mismatch drver files exit
[14:25] <ActionPa1snip> bitspark: how are you trying to install the firmware?
[14:25] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: SwedeMike http://pastebin.com/fJCtkX0H
[14:25] <bitspark> i just tried from update center
[14:26] <ActionPa1snip> stepjohn: try grabbing the deb from skype.com
[14:26] <SwedeMike> stepjohn: did you follow the guides I pasted for you BEFORE you try to install skype?
[14:27] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: Tried the deb from skype, I also have the same problem with steam
[14:29] <SwedeMike> stepjohn: after adding i386, did you do update/dist-upgrade ? or added the repo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse" as stated in the last guide, and then installed ia32-libs ?
[14:29] <SwedeMike> I don't have 64bit 13.10 box available, so I can't test myself.
[14:31] <stepjohn> SwedeMike: yep, did an update and dist-upgrade , adding the last releases repo to get the ia-32 package isn't the correct fix. The problem seems to be that some i32 bit package want to remove 1/2 my system when they are installed
[14:32] <cypher-neo> stepjohn: ia32-libs? You doing some Google development?
[14:33] <z1haze> eeek, can someone please help me out, im not so great with linux, etc.. but i think i accidently changed some permissions for the '/' directory by mistake.. i was doing a chown -R for a directory but by mistake i hit enter at / instead of typing in my full directory
[14:33] <shafox> grunt dist doesnt import css files in EAK.
[14:34] <stepjohn> z1haze: that's not an easy fix at all
[14:34] <z1haze> shit, well what do i do
[14:34] <shafox> reinstall
[14:34] <z1haze> whatt?
[14:34] <bitspark> reinstall
[14:34] <shafox> recover if you can
[14:34] <stepjohn> z1haze: Have you got a back up of the / filesystem that you can use to compare permissions with
[14:35] <Pici> z1haze: what exact command did you use?
[14:35] <z1haze> i typed this
[14:35] <z1haze> 1 sec
[14:35] <z1haze> ill pull the history
[14:35] <z1haze> sudo chown -R minecraft:mcserver /
[14:35] <Pici> z1haze: In most cases this requires a reinstall, but there are some things that you could have typed that would make it 'somewhat' easy to recover
[14:35] <z1haze> i caneledd it like immdiately
[14:35] <Pici> That is not one of those easy commands
[14:36] <z1haze> itdidnt get that far
[14:36] <stepjohn> z1haze: that's not that bad
[14:36] <stepjohn> z1haze: do a ls -lh /
[14:36] <z1haze> thank u!
[14:36] <stepjohn> z1haze: is everything owned by minecraft
[14:36] <z1haze> yep
[14:36] <z1haze> no
[14:36] <z1haze> wait
[14:36] <z1haze> most is
[14:36] <z1haze> do i just do the same thing and put it back root:root?
[14:37] <stepjohn> z1haze: noooo
[14:37] <z1haze> ok
[14:37] <stepjohn> z1haze: not everything is owned by root
[14:37] <z1haze> ok ill do whatever it takes
[14:37] <z1haze> therse not many things on this server
[14:37] <z1haze> theres a lot of data, but most of it is by 1 user
[14:37] <stepjohn> z1haze: what you need to do is figure out what dirs got changes
[14:38] <stepjohn> z1haze: what dirs got changed
[14:38] <stepjohn> z1haze: hopefully not etc and bin
[14:38] <z1haze> yea
[14:38] <z1haze> thats the first one
[14:39] <bitspark> i have a problem with linux firmware install
[14:39] <bitspark> using ubuntu 12.04
[14:39] <z1haze> http://imageshack.com/a/img203/1758/5d7b.png stepjohn
[14:39] <stepjohn> z1haze: on everything in /bin and the bin dir itself need to be root:root
[14:40] <z1haze> sudo chown -R root:root /bin ?
[14:40] <stepjohn> z1haze: eekk you toasted everything
[14:40] <z1haze> i cancelled it quick
[14:40] <mocara> z1haze, 1 do not exit that root shell you have
[14:40] <z1haze> but i guess its faster than my responses
[14:40] <z1haze> ok i wont
[14:41] <mocara> z1haze, 2 try to find another box with the same distro.
[14:41] <mocara> You could record the perms on a directory from it and then apply them on the other box.
[14:41] <z1haze> i dont really know what im doing :( kinda panicing
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> !details | bitspark
[14:41] <mocara> What time of box is it? Where is it hosted? Cloud or physical?
[14:41] <z1haze> stepjohn should i start first by doing the ownership of /bin
[14:41] <stepjohn> yep /bin and /root need to be root:root
[14:42] <z1haze> i dunno
[14:42] <z1haze> ok let me do that
[14:42] <z1haze> sudo chown -R root:root /bin ?
[14:42] <z1haze> i wanna be sure
[14:42] <stepjohn> z1haze: chown -R root:root  /bin /root
[14:42] <mocara> And watch out for spaces! :P
[14:42]  * mocara wonders if it is too soon
[14:42] <z1haze> im copy and pasing
[14:43] <z1haze> eh im fk'd
[14:43] <z1haze> i dont have the root password i only had sudo
[14:43] <z1haze> and it wont let me sudo now
[14:43] <mocara> shit bricks.
[14:43] <stepjohn> z1haze: eeeeek
[14:43] <mocara> Okay, so where is this machine and what type is it?
[14:43] <mocara> There are still possible solutions
[14:43] <z1haze> ok
[14:44] <stepjohn> z1haze: can you get console access
[14:44] <z1haze> the machine is from a friend
[14:44] <z1haze> yea im in ssh right now
[14:44] <mocara> Do you know where it is hosted?
[14:44] <tux_fan> hi all. the netiquette of bugreport filing tells me to update my firmware before filling in a bugreport. so how do i update the firmware of my netXtreme card reader ?
[14:44] <stepjohn> z1haze: I mean can you get access to the actually keyboard and video output. VNC etc
[14:44] <mocara> If it's a cloud box you could bring another up and move it across.
[14:44] <z1haze> no
[14:44] <z1haze> i dont its phsyical
[14:44] <z1haze> cause its been moved
[14:45] <z1haze> like we've aded more ram to it, etc
[14:45] <stepjohn> z1haze: if you give me the ip I can find out who it's hosted wit
[14:45] <stepjohn> h
[14:45] <mocara> was about to ask the same thing in private :)
[14:46] <z1haze> talking to the owner now
[14:46] <mocara> cool
[14:47] <stepjohn> z1haze: Id start backing up all the vital data asap. As the easiest solution is to do a reinstall.
[14:47] <stepjohn> z1haze: Otherwise you need to get root on the machine and chown the dirs and files to the correct permissions
[14:47] <racer0940> anyone else just get a ping from YoLtA?
[14:47] <z1haze> ill ask him
[14:48] <stepjohn> z1haze: Sudo doesn't work as its setuid and the file is now owned by the incorrect user
[14:48] <z1haze> well im the user
[14:48] <z1haze> so thats weird
[14:49] <stepjohn> z1haze: /usr/bin/sudo should be owned by root
[14:49] <stepjohn> z1haze: I'm guessing it's now owned by minecraft.
[14:49] <stepjohn> z1haze: That means you can sudo anymore
[14:49] <stepjohn> z1haze: cant*
[14:50] <z1haze> yea
[14:50] <z1haze> makes since
[14:50] <z1haze> sense*
[14:50] <z1haze> well talkign to the guy now, gonna try to get root, if he even knows it
[14:50] <z1haze> if we get root, will that help
[14:50] <stepjohn> z1haze: sure
[14:50] <z1haze> i also mentioned to lfind another box with that setup
[14:50] <somsip> racer0940: this has been happening on and off for a few days. The ops are aware, but you can nudge them in #ubuntu-ops if you want to
[14:51] <racer0940> that's fine, I was just curious if it was spam to a large amount of people
[14:52] <z1haze> ok we're in root
[14:52] <z1haze> i told him chown -R root:root  /bin /root first
[14:52] <diego_1> hello
[14:53] <stepjohn> z1haze: then chown root:root /sbin && chown root:shadow /sbin/unix_chkpwd
[14:53] <z1haze> k relaying the info
[14:53] <stepjohn> z1haze: then chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo
[14:53] <stepjohn> z1haze: after that you should be able to sudo
[14:54] <z1haze> then we try to fix the little issues? lol
[14:54] <z1haze> or should that do it
[14:54] <Sara> Hi all, I have a quick question. I have a broadcom wifi card on my desktop and it is the only way I can connect to the internet. I am trying to use b43-cutter to install the wl_prebuilt.o but It prints cannot open input file
[14:54] <stepjohn> z1haze: that's fixed enough so you can login
[14:54] <z1haze> well one main thing i noticed
[14:55] <z1haze> mysql was all messed up it seemed
[14:55] <z1haze> nothing could connect to the dtabases
[14:55] <stepjohn> z1haze: yep it needs alot more fixing on it
[14:55] <trijntje> is it possible to use the software center option 'sync between computers' to restore installed programs after a reinstall?
[14:55] <z1haze> k ill post once hes changes everything u said
[14:56] <z1haze> ok all folders changed
[14:57] <stepjohn> z1haze: can you sudo now?
[14:57] <z1haze> hmm no do i need to restart?
[14:57] <stepjohn> z1haze: do not restart that machine
[14:57] <stepjohn> z1haze: you restart it, it may never reboot
[14:57] <z1haze> no i meant my console
[14:58] <stepjohn> z1haze: no it should work
[14:58] <z1haze> then icant sudo
[14:58] <Busybyeski> how can i hook-in lightning or some other calendar into the toolbar's calendar?
[14:58] <z1haze> then chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo
[14:58] <z1haze> oops my bad
[14:58] <z1haze> http://pastebin.com/CpthpbXc
[14:59] <stepjohn> z1haze: chown root:root /etc/sudo* -R
[15:00] <stepjohn> z1haze: then try to sudo again
[15:01] <TJ-> I have an upstart job stuck in "stop/killed" state (ureadhead-other), with init (pid 1) still holding an open log-file for the job, which I need closing (the log-file is inside a chroot that needs umount-ing). The job process no longer exists. Any suggestions on how to proceed?
[15:02] <stepjohn> TJ-: you can do a lsof | grep path to log file to find out what has it open
[15:02] <z1haze> stepjohn he did that too but i cant sudo
[15:02] <stepjohn> TJ-: for example lsof | grep /var/log/dmesg
[15:03] <sarah34> Anybody there ? I mean anybody helpful ?
[15:03] <sarah34> I have question
[15:03] <stepjohn> sarah34: sure
[15:03] <z1haze> oh there is no sudo
[15:03] <z1haze> sudoers?
[15:03] <TJ-> stepjohn: That won't help. I need a way to persuade init to close the log-file for a job it has stopped
[15:04] <stepjohn> TJ-: does init have the log file open
[15:04] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:04] <stepjohn> TJ-: it will tell you the pid of the process that has it open
[15:04] <z1haze> can i do that from anywhere?
[15:04] <sarah34> I'm watching online movies they're free movies serials but no way to download them and I want to ask is there some script I could put link to the video and link to down load would come out ? Or some web that convert links to download link ?
[15:04] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: yes
[15:05] <z1haze> cat /etc/issue
[15:05] <z1haze> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:05] <sarah34> Any advice ?
[15:05] <TJ-> stepjohn: I *know* the pid, it's 1! I'm asking how to persuade init to close that file now the upstart job has stopped
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> sarah34: do you watch them in a web browser?
[15:06] <z1haze> ActionPa1snip: cat /etc/issue
[15:06] <z1haze> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:06] <z1haze> just puts that
[15:07] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: i saw
[15:07] <z1haze> mm
[15:07] <stepjohn> TJ-: I can't see why upstart would have any log file open
[15:07] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: ubuntu uses sudo for admin tasks so if you dont have sudo you are pretty screwed
[15:07] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: what is the output of:  which sudo
[15:07] <z1haze> that's what were trying to fix
[15:08] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: He has messed up file perms on / root
[15:08] <z1haze> its /usr/bin/sudo
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> stepjohn: oh jesus
[15:08] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: yep chown -R
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: ok and the output of:  echo $PATH
[15:08] <z1haze> we fixed some of it already
[15:08] <stepjohn> z1haze: we have fix 1/100
[15:08] <stepjohn> bin sbin and /root
[15:08] <z1haze> ./usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[15:09] <sarah34> ActionPa1snip yes
[15:09] <sarah34> I watch them in the browseer
[15:09] <stepjohn> the perms on sudo and /etc/sudo* are correct
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> sarah34: there are various downloader addons and extensions for web browsers, try a few
[15:09] <stepjohn> z1haze: is there anyhing in /var/log/auth about the sudo
[15:09] <JustSomeGuy> hi can i tell dconf-editor to change another file than ~/.config/dconf/user?
[15:10] <stepjohn> z1haze: I'm betting that pam is messed up
[15:10] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: what is the output of:  ls -la /etc/sudo*
[15:10] <TJ-> stepjohn: You should try "sudo ls -l /proc/1/fd/" - upstart manages log-files on behalf of some processes
[15:10] <sarah34> Action ok
[15:10] <z1haze> no such file or directory
[15:10] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: use a pastebin to host the output
[15:10] <z1haze> i have sudoers
[15:10] <stepjohn> TJ-: on my system it has two open
[15:11] <z1haze> ls -la /etc/sudo
[15:11] <z1haze> ls: cannot access /etc/sudo: No such file or directory
[15:11] <stepjohn> z1haze: ls -ls /etc/sudoers && ls -ls /etc/sudoers.d/
[15:11] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: then you will need to drop to root recovery mode and recreate the file and / or check permissions as root
[15:12] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: He has a friend with a root shell open
[15:12] <TJ-> stepjohn: Yeah. And it seems like there is no way to make it close even unlinked files, and as init can't be restarted there's no easy way to make it drop the fd
[15:12] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: So we are trying to get enough working to get him sodo
[15:12] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#The_Default_Ubuntu_Sudoers_File   is the default ubuntu sudoers file
[15:12] <ActionPa1snip> stepjohn: ^
[15:12] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: the sudo config was working until he ran the chown
[15:13] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: so it's a file perm issue
[15:13] <z1haze> i have the auth.log but its too large
[15:13] <helo_> hello
[15:13] <z1haze> 4 -r--r----- 1 root root 723 Jan 31  2012 /etc/sudoers
[15:13] <z1haze> total 4
[15:13] <z1haze> 4 -r--r----- 1 root root 753 Jan 31  2012 README
[15:13] <ActionPa1snip> stepjohn: then copy your own to his. I'd just reinstall
[15:14] <ActionPa1snip> z1haze: why were you chowning this stuff anyway?
[15:14] <z1haze> i didnt mean to
[15:14] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: he did / instead of /
[15:14] <stepjohn> ActionPa1snip: he did / instead of ./
[15:14] <ActionPa1snip> ohhh
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: ls -la /usr/bin/sudo
[15:14] <stepjohn> hitsujiTMO: its root:root
[15:14] <z1haze> yes root root
[15:15] <stepjohn> z1haze: look at the bottom of /var/log/auth.log,
[15:15] <stepjohn> z1haze: is there an error with something about sudo or pam
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: and its rws on u?
[15:15] <z1haze> theres a lot o those i think let me upload the whole file
[15:15] <stepjohn> hitsujiTMO: he only do chown not a chmod
[15:16] <stepjohn> hitsujiTMO: do / did
[15:16] <z1haze> http://backconnect.net/auth.log
[15:17] <Guest4507> Can anyone offer any advice for moving & resizing a partition? I have a 2TiB drive which used to have a Windows boot partition on it, and an existing and in use EXT4 partition after. I deleted the Windows partitions, but can't resize or move the existing EXT4 partition. Here's what I tried: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909605/
[15:17] <z1haze> u see the post of the auth.log file
[15:17] <z1haze> the owner said he'll do whatever
[15:17] <stepjohn> z1haze: looking now
[15:17] <z1haze> but i dont wanna reformat if dont have to
[15:17] <stepjohn> z1haze: to be ownest, to fix this is going to take longer than just to format and reinstall
[15:18] <z1haze> but what about all of the info
[15:18] <z1haze> we have tons of info
[15:18] <stepjohn> z1haze: back it up
[15:18] <stepjohn> z1haze: df -lh
[15:18] <compdoc> Guest4507, have you tried booting gparted?
[15:18] <z1haze> so we cant fix it?
[15:18] <stepjohn> z1haze: how big is the hd
[15:18] <JustSomeGuy> is there no way to configure unity via an xml file?
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: another thing? have you enabled the root user, and have you got password auth over ssh enabled?
[15:19] <z1haze> yea root user works
[15:19] <stepjohn> hitsujiTMO: He has a friend already logged in as root
[15:19] <stepjohn> hitsujiTMO: using ssh
[15:19] <stepjohn> z1haze: id just backup everything from the machine
[15:19] <stepjohn> z1haze: do a reinstall and copy the stuff back
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: ok, someone is trying to brute force your password for that account
[15:20] <z1haze> what do u mean
[15:20] <Guest4507> compdoc: I am pretty sure gparted can do it, but I was hoping no to bring down the system, other aspects are currently in use and this process will take hours. Is there no CLI based solution?
[15:20] <compdoc> Guest4507, I think the words "aspects are currently in use' thats causing the problem
[15:20] <trijntje> Guest4507: there is no way to modify partitions while they are in use, and its not wise to change partitions without a full backup
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: the ip 114.80.246.146 is trying to gain access to your machine by guessing your root password. so if you get it back up and running, disable your root user and use key auth, and disable password auth
[15:21] <Guest4507> compdoc: Other drives are in use performing other services, the drive in question is inactive/NOT mounted
[15:21] <stepjohn> hitsujiTMO: or use fail2ban
[15:21] <TJ-> z1haze: I've fixed such problems in the past where clients have done similar, by doing a clean install of the exact same version into a virtual machine image, then stopping the VM, loop-mounting it's file-system locally, and then running an iterative script on it that copies the permissions of each directory and file from the loopmount to the corrupted target. That has to have root access of course.
[15:21] <Guest4507> trijntje: Other drives are in use performing other services, the drive in question is inactive/NOT mounted
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> stepjohn: thats not good enough when he's using really bad security practices
[15:22] <z1haze> tj.. im sory but i dont know anything about that
[15:22] <wotan147> how to fix virtuoso-t crashing after 15 min session ?
[15:22] <Guest4507> compdoc: trijntje: a partition move for a 2tb volume can easily take an entire day
[15:22] <z1haze> how do u know the ip 114.80.246.146 is trying to attack?
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: your auth.log
[15:23] <Guest4507> compdoc: trijntje: the drive referenced is not mounted or in use in any way, but other drives and services on the machine are still running
[15:23] <compdoc> possibly so, although you could just remove the drive and attach it to a less used system
[15:23] <TJ-> z1haze: The essence of your issue is to return the permissions to what they should be. Therefore you need a template which you can use to determine the correct permissions. That's one way to do it. Another way is to use a Live ISO image file-system
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: and its not the only one
[15:24] <Guest4507> compdoc: so there is no way to move/resize ext4 in a non-gui linux? I'm blown away by that...
[15:24] <trijntje> Guest4507: so nothing on that harddisk is in use?
[15:24] <z1haze> yea a template
[15:24] <Guest4507> trijntje: nothing at all
[15:24] <z1haze> where can i get a template
[15:24] <compdoc> Guest4507, if it wont let you, it is in use
[15:24] <trijntje> Guest4507: so all active stuf is running from another physical harddrive?
[15:24] <compdoc> if it werent in use, it would let you
[15:25] <TJ-> z1haze: As well as a clean install into a VM, the squashfs file-system of the equivilent Live ISO would do
[15:25] <andybrine> has anyone had a problem with the keyboard layout on 13.10? Everytime i change it, it goes back to the original
[15:25] <andybrine> the @ and " symbols are around the wrong way
[15:25] <stepjohn> z1haze: to find out the number of incorrectly owned file permission run find / -user minecraft | wc -l
[15:25] <stepjohn> z1haze: there will literally be thousand
[15:25] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO is that typical?
[15:25] <Guest4507> trijntje: Correct, I am trying to make changes to /dev/sdl which is not mounted or in use in any way.
[15:26] <z1haze> ok i hve a list
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yes, thats why you DO NOT enable the root user, and why you use key auth instead of password auth
[15:26] <z1haze> bunch of permission denied
[15:26] <Guest4507> compdoc: it isn't that simple. the drive isn't in use... it is not mounted or a member of any other structure
[15:27] <Meerkat> where can I download 14.04?
[15:27] <TJ-> z1haze: what user account name are you logged into that system as? Is it not "minecraft" ?
[15:27] <z1haze> yes
[15:27] <z1haze> it is
[15:27] <trijntje> Guest4507: can't you just install gparted on the running system and use that? I don't have experience with using command line to move partitions, though I'm sure its possible
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> Meerkat: #ubuntu+1 for anything trusty related http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:28] <compdoc> Guest4507, sorry, I dont remember, what program are you using to resize?
[15:28] <Meerkat> thanks.
[15:28] <andybrine> keyboard layout on 13.10 is really shocking
[15:28] <Guest4507> trijntje: the running system is Ubuntu Server and doesn't have any of the packages for a GUI or X window system
[15:28] <Guest4507> compdoc: parted
[15:29] <andybrine> I thought ubuntu was supposed to get better after each release. I cant see this happening right now.
[15:29] <z1haze> hey guys is it possible to like reinstall keeping all files and just fixing the permissions?
[15:29] <Guest4507> compdoc: But I am open to use something else if it is stable and can do move/resize
[15:29] <ikonia> andybrine: what is the keyboard layout you are setting it to ?
[15:29] <stepjohn> z1haze: how big is the hd
[15:29] <stepjohn> z1haze: df -lh
[15:29] <TJ-> z1haze: Is the machine accessible via a (remote) console, either directly by local keyboard, or over a network KVM ?
[15:30] <z1haze> yea the owner can do it
[15:30] <z1haze> its 500gb
[15:30] <andybrine> I had it set on a UK keyboard which worked fine until I do a reboot, then all the keys are wrong
[15:30] <stepjohn> z1haze: how much is used
[15:30] <ikonia> andybrine: ok - so is this a standard UK keyboard ?
[15:30] <z1haze> 130gb avil
[15:30] <stepjohn> z1haze: ok you could back it all up somewhere then do a reinstall
[15:30] <andybrine> its acutally a laptop keyboard
[15:30] <trijntje> andybrine: how do you set it?
[15:30] <ikonia> andybrine: ok, but a standard UK layout ?
[15:31] <andybrine> yeah standard layout
[15:31] <stepjohn> z1haze: you can do a reinstall without formating but that is risky
[15:31] <TJ-> z1haze: Well then I'd recommend the owner restarts using a live ISO image from DVD or USB, mounts the affected file-systems, and corrects the permissions using the procedure I outlined earlier. That's the best/safest/most accurate way to fix it
[15:31] <ikonia> andybrine: ok, so in the top right of the title bar, what does it show your keyboard layout as ?
[15:31] <andybrine> English (Uk)
[15:31] <ikonia> andybrine: and is your keyboard as you expect ?
[15:32] <stepjohn> z1haze: or backup the data you require, reinstall and copy the data back
[15:32] <andybrine> Well it is now as I have had to reselect that keyboard
[15:32] <shreezbot> ls
[15:32] <shreezbot> lol
[15:32] <TJ-> andybrine: Are there multiple users of the PC using different log-ins, each using different keyboard layouts?
[15:32] <andybrine> no, its just  me
[15:32] <z1haze> tj where is the instructions ill copy paste to him
[15:33] <ikonia> andybrine: if you click on the en uk option on the title bar are there any other seletions available, or just en uk ?
[15:33] <shreezbot> Is there a better SSH client for debian than Xterm?
[15:33] <ikonia> sorry English UK
[15:33] <ikonia> shreezbot: xterm isn't a client
[15:33] <andybrine> no, its just english uk
[15:33] <TJ-> andybrine: Have you removed the US English keyboard layout from the available list?
[15:33] <ikonia> shreezbot: ask in #debian
[15:33] <ikonia> andybrine: ok, so when it's not using UK - what are the options ?
[15:33] <andybrine> US Keyboard has completely gone
[15:33] <shreezbot> ikonia, if it isn't a client, what is it?
[15:33] <andybrine> only one in the options
[15:33] <ikonia> shreezbot: a terminal emmulator
[15:34] <TJ-> z1haze: I don't think copy-paste is going to work with such a case, even for an expert there's a lot to do. He needs an expert with hands-on.
[15:34] <ikonia> andybrine: when you reboot does it set to UK
[15:34] <ikonia> or USA ?
[15:34] <weiss> hello! I have some problem wit wifi on newly installed ubuntu 13.10. It recognizes home network, sometimes it connects, but it disconnects after a few seconds. I must use ethernet cable for net on laptop
[15:34] <andybrine> It shows that its a UK Keyboard
[15:34] <ikonia> andybrine: but it's not ?
[15:34] <z1haze> the kids a brain, hes like 18 and owns 2 companies, hes at the data center now so i think the server is actually with him
[15:34] <shreezbot> ikonia, How does that make it not a client?  I'm confused?  In the client/server relationship xterm seems like it would certainly be a client...
[15:35] <andybrine> no its not, the " and the @ signs are round the worng way
[15:35] <TJ-> andybrine: Are the # and | switched, too?
[15:35] <andybrine> yeah, they are all switched
[15:36] <TJ-> andybrine: OK, so that really confirms it is switching to US layout
[15:36] <andybrine> its strange having removed all the othe keyboads
[15:36] <andybrine> yeah
[15:36] <Adminator> just installed ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso in Virtualbox, created a user and pwd during install, and now Update Manager authentication fails using said pwd
[15:36] <Adminator> any ideas besides memory lapse?
[15:37] <TJ-> andybrine: Do you switch to another TTY and back to the GUI when this happens? Or can you associate it with running/closing some GUI application?
[15:38] <weiss> hello! I have some problem wit wifi on newly installed ubuntu 13.10. It recognizes home network, sometimes it connects, but it disconnects after a few seconds. I must use ethernet cable for net on laptop. Any tests I could do?
[15:38] <DJones> andybrine: A few people have had the same issue, UK keyboard changing to US keyboard in the last month or so, I had to change to US keyboard, then change back to UK keyboard using the keyboard/language selecter, that solved the issue for me
[15:38] <andybrine> Im not 100% sure when it changes, at times its actually as im working
[15:38] <z1haze> ok everyone thanks for all ur help and attempts
[15:38] <andybrine> can be very frustrating at times
[15:38] <z1haze> he said when he gets back to the office he'll reformat the box :\
[15:39] <LumberJackTeam> how can i change the apps bar to the right side?
[15:39] <DJones> andybrine: There a couple of different solutions mentioned here http://askubuntu.com/questions/367209/keyboard-layout-changing-from-uk-to-us-not-showing-as-changed-in-settings
[15:39] <andybrine> thank, I will have a look
[15:40] <andybrine> here is a pastebin
[15:40] <andybrine> http://tinypic.com/r/30a9frp/8
[15:40] <andybrine> its very simple and doesnt show a lot though
[15:40] <LumberJackTeam> how can i change the apps bar to the right side of the screen?
[15:40] <she_dyed> no need to repeat
[15:41] <LumberJackTeam> i need to repeat since there no anser
[15:41] <andybrine> so its as simple as restarting lightdm?
[15:41] <sarah34> I have question is there command or some script I could use I want to use in terminal to convert web address where is online video clip mp4
[15:41] <andybrine> that does not sound right for some reason :s
[15:41] <sarah34> I want to paste that link and want that script to convert it to ndownload link
[15:41] <DJones> andybrine: I just did the switch to US then back to UK, I never tried the restarting lightdm
[15:42] <sarah34> Is there any thing like that ???
[15:42] <sarah34> I want to use terminal instead anything else
[15:42] <andybrine> ok, I will give that a shot
[15:42] <andybrine> thanks for your help everyone
[15:42] <sarah34> Is there any kind of script command I could use?
[15:42] <andybrine> does anyone know when the next release is out?
[15:43] <LumberJackTeam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[15:43] <ikonia> andybrine: you still there ?
[15:43] <sarah34> I use wget to download files and need something else that would yelp nme convert web link to video link
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> sarah34: youtube-dl is available
[15:43] <andybrine> yeah, im still here.
[15:43] <LumberJackTeam> thank you very much for nothing
[15:43] <ikonia> shreezbot: it makes it not a client, because it's a terminal emmulator, the client is the openssh client
[15:43] <sarah34> Nooooooo
[15:43] <ikonia> andybrine: what's the little red apple on your desktop ?
[15:43] <sarah34> I want to do it in terminal
[15:43] <ikonia> andybrine: is that a theme of some sort ?
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> sarah34: yes, youtube-dl IS a bash script.
[15:44] <andybrine> yeah, I use the apple theme
[15:44] <sarah34> It wil
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> ActionPa1snip: python script
[15:44] <sarah34>  Download only fro. Youtube right ?
[15:44] <andybrine> im not a fan of apply but like the look of it
[15:44] <ikonia> andybrine: I'll put money that's causing the problem, the apple theme has caused LOADS of problems with the desktop experience
[15:44] <Maurice> Hello there, does someone use Claws Mail? I've a basic problem during installation (ppa)
[15:44] <trijntje> LumberJackTeam: patience. What version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:44] <FiremanEd> !patience | LumberJackTeam
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> hitsujiTMO: ok ok ;P
[15:44] <ikonia> andybrine: themes like macbuntu for example got zero support for that reason, it's quite common with most of the mac themes.
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> ActionPa1snip: :)
[15:44] <andybrine> ok, thanks ikonia. I will change the theme for a while
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> sarah34: no idea, I dont bother downloading videos as I always have a web connection
[15:44] <aaron_> hi when i try to connect to the internet it says its unreachable ?
[15:45] <LumberJackTeam> patient ive asked this question 2 hours ago
[15:45] <ikonia> andybrine: (that doesn't mean it's the theme, fact, it means its a good possibility)
[15:45] <andybrine> thats a shame. I dont mind removing it though :)
[15:45] <shreezbot> ikonia, So the terminal emulator is invoking the openssh client in the background?
[15:45] <andybrine> yeah, i know what you mean
[15:45] <aaron_> but i can connect to this irc?
[15:45] <ikonia> shreezbot: not in the background, in the foreground.
[15:45] <trijntje> LumberJackTeam: the simple answer is that since 12.04, there is no official way to change the position of the bar
[15:45] <sarah34> Not everyone was born in developed country ActionPa I'm from the UK
[15:46] <andybrine> Is it prob best removing the whole theme or would you suggest just changing the theme?
[15:46] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Any ideas on how I might persuade upstart's init (pid 1) to close a log-file it has open on a chroot mount file-system that has become inaccessible after a suspend/resume? The upstart job itself has been stopped. I have to avoid a system reboot
[15:46] <sarah34> Need some script that would convert web address to video download link
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> sarah34: I'm in the UK too
[15:46] <sarah34> You're in some better part or something
[15:46] <sarah34> Maybe scoytland
[15:46] <sarah34> I'm from London
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ooh, soryy no ideas there mate
[15:47] <LumberJackTeam> so much for user freedom
[15:47] <shreezbot> ikonia, AHHH!  I think i understand now...  I'm opening up Xterm and issuing the 'ssh' command to connect to another server.  That is the openssh client that I'm invoking to connect to another server...  I'm kinda dense sometimes.  Thanks for helping me understand that...
[15:47] <ol> anyone has experience with online cfree shell?
[15:47] <ikonia> andybrine: I'd get rid of it all, the history is it modifies/changes files that it really shouldn't to get some of the visuals to work
[15:47] <trijntje> LumberJackTeam: yeah, it like communist russia here, sorry about that
[15:47] <LumberJackTeam> i dont like apple and ubuntu is just an apple wannbe
[15:47] <ActionPa1snip> LumberJackTeam: not really
[15:47] <ikonia> LumberJackTeam: enough, ask for help / wait for answer, snide comments are not welcoe or required.
[15:48] <ikonia> welcome
[15:48] <andybrine> yeah, i do remember making quite a few changes
[15:48] <stepjohn> LumberJackTeam: If you don't like unity use Xubuntu that's what I'm using
[15:48] <andybrine> that may solve other issues as well
[15:48] <LumberJackTeam> im going to change using that ppa
[15:48] <LumberJackTeam> so there
[15:48] <ikonia> andybrine: they are (as a general rule of thumb) a real problem, and cause a lot of problems
[15:48] <andybrine> thanks really ppreciate it
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> LumberJackTeam: what ppa?
[15:48] <racer0940> is vsftpd pretty much the go to ftp server for linux?
[15:48] <LumberJackTeam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[15:49] <ActionPa1snip> LumberJackTeam: it's known to break things
[15:49] <shreezbot> ikonia, Is there a terminal emulator that you recommend more than Xterm for Ubuntu?  Xterm is kinda a pain...  I haven't learned how to use screen very well yet...
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> LumberJackTeam: that only works pre 12.04
[15:49] <andybrine> ive not been happy with 13.10 sinse release and hopefully this will fix a lot of niggling issues
[15:49] <she_dyed> but you get to keep the pieces...
[15:49] <ActionPa1snip> LumberJackTeam: I suggest you install a more customizable dock, then disable the unity plugin in ccsm (or similar)
[15:49] <ikonia> shreezbot: in what way is it a pain ?
[15:49] <shreezbot> ikonia, I can't have multiple ssh connections for instance...
[15:49] <ikonia> shreezbot: ubuntu's default terminal is not xterm.
[15:49] <ActionPa1snip> shreezbot: sure you can
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> ikonia: its default installed
[15:50] <ikonia> ActionPa1snip: it's not the default terminal though
[15:50] <ol> what is the difference between UNIX, linux, BSD, ubuntu, fedora ?
[15:50] <shreezbot> ikonia, Well, I don't like the default terminal either, because you can't scroll
[15:50] <LumberJackTeam> besides you use the mouse on the lft side of the computer and it just feels closer to the left side of the screen
[15:50] <ikonia> shreezbot: you can in the default one.
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: gnome-terminal ( the default in ubuntu ) is actually one of the best terminals out there
[15:50] <LumberJackTeam> i mean right side
[15:51] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, It would be amazing if I could scroll in it...
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> i use guake :)
[15:51] <LumberJackTeam> if you are left handed you might like the launcher on the left side
[15:51] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, For some reason it won't allow it...
[15:51] <Maurice> is it normal to find a "ain" problem in line 3 in claws-mail-ppa-precise-list ?
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> Maurice: should read 'main'
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: in the menu -> profile preferences -> scrolling
[15:51] <TJ-> shreezbot: Use Shift+PageUp, Shift+PageDn
[15:52] <LumberJackTeam> another nice feature would be the option to autohide the launcher
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> Maurice: I'd contact the PPA maintainer to let them know
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> LumberJackTeam: it is an option
[15:52] <LumberJackTeam> for people with small screens
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> LumberJackTeam: again, it is an option
[15:52] <Maurice> yes ActionPa1snip  I agree I removed it and it worked but it's weird that it's from their source server
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: or right click in the terminal -> profile -> profile preferences -> scrolling
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> Maurice: its a PPA, maintanined by Joe Somebody on the web. Nothing more
[15:53] <trijntje> LumberJackTeam: it is possible to auto-hide the launcer, or to modify the size of the icons, via system settings
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: wait you mentioned screen, are you in screen now?
[15:53] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, That got it!  I can't beliefe I missed that...
[15:53] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, No, I'm not in screen now
[15:53] <Maurice> ActionPalsnip don't deny their good work thought ;)
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> shreezbot: screen removes the ability to scroll, it has its own internal scrolling functions
[15:54] <hggdh> I would suggest tmux in lieu of screen, and byobu as the wrapper
[15:54] <LumberJackTeam> does ubuntu have a netinst iso?
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> !Minimal | LumberJackTeam
[15:54] <shreezbot> hitsujiTMO, Ah, ok then...  Now that I'm using the default emulator, I can just use multiple sessions...
[15:54] <zerowaitstate> I have a 3TB external drive that was formatted by Windows, but gdisk is showing the last partition table overlaps the last partition by a huge amount. has anyone seen this before?
[15:55] <shreezbot> Thanks for the help guys!  Now to go figure out how to disable passwords and allow all my devices to connect via SSH!!!  :D
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> zerowaitstate: can you pastebin the output of: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdX
[15:56] <ActionPa1snip> shreezbot: not too hard
[15:56] <shreezbot> ActionPa1snip, Yea, it doesn't look too hard from the tutorials I'm seeing.  I think the hardest part is going to be to get the ssh key to my devices.  :)
[15:57] <andybrine> now that I have removed the macbuntu theme, can anyone recomend another good looking theme?
[15:57] <ikonia> andybrine: ahh you where actually using macbuntu
[15:57] <zerowaitstate> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/pq87JfQD
[15:57] <ikonia> andybrine: in that case, I'd bet money that was a problem,
[15:57] <andybrine> lol yeah
[15:57] <andybrine> its gone forever now
[15:57] <andybrine> mac seems to cause problems all over the place :
[15:58] <andybrine> :P
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> shreezbot: keep 2 connections to the box, so if the key fails you arent stuck
[15:58] <ikonia> andybrine: that theme is just a huge problem/mess, there should be more warnings about it
[15:58] <andybrine> yeah, im glad you told me as I would of kept using it without knowing a thing
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> zerowaitstate: can you also pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[15:58] <andybrine> it does look good though
[15:59] <andybrine> lol
[15:59] <shreezbot> ActionPa1snip, That's something I'll have to figure out how to do...  :)
[16:00] <shreezbot> ActionPa1snip, My security right now consists of forwarding an obsure port number to SSH and having an insanely stupidly long password...  :)
[16:00] <zerowaitstate> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/d86K8sfQ new stuff appended to bottom
[16:00] <andybrine> before I install another theme, Are there any other themes with known issues?
[16:00] <autojav> hello. I installed ubuntu on my laptop and I got a strange bug: on my java ide ctrl + z don't work but in same version on lubuntu works. can you help me? sorry for my bad english
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> shreezbot: thats cool
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> zerowaitstate: looks like someone dd'd the disk from a 3tb drive to a 750mb drive
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> autojav: are there any bugs reported?
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> zerowaitstate: looks like someone dd'd the disk from a 3tb drive to a 750gb drive even
[16:02] <autojav> ActionPa1snip: I don't know, my ide is bluej
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> autojav: check on launchpad for bug reports, if you dont find one report one
[16:03] <weiss> Guys, I would realy like to enable wireless to work on my newly installed ubuntu 13.10. please, help me
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> zerowaitstate: so the partition table is that from a much larger hdd. you'll be missing much of the data that was on the original partition. best to wipe the partition table and create a propper one
[16:06] <bitspark> how to check ubuntu 12.04 is working properly
[16:06] <ikonia> use it
[16:06] <bitspark> apps and system
[16:07] <bitspark> it shows randomly some system error occured msg
[16:07] <ikonia> note down the errors and people will help fix them
[16:10] <jhutchins> bitspark: Read the errors and figure out what they're saying.
[16:13] <DuncanT> Hi. During an ooops, I get a line in the dmesg that says "Modules linked in:" followed by a list of modules. Some of them have (O) after some of the modules. Anybody know what that means? Thanks
[16:14] <_krux> has anyone been able to get multiseat working with a single dual-head nvidia video card?
[16:14] <ikonia> DuncanT: need a lot more info
[16:16] <ometzit> Hello everyone, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu because of modem issues, I upgraded to 12.04 and the wifi doesnt work, neither the wired connection. I already tried reinstalling the broadcom drivers but is useless, would it be easier just reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[16:17] <DuncanT> ikonia: What do you need? I've seen it in at least 4 oops, on several different kernels all on precise. I'm specifically wondering what the (O) means, not necessarily what the ooops itself is (I suspect that is in my code)
[16:18] <ometzit> Hello everyone, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu because of modem issues, I upgraded to 12.04 and the wifi doesnt work, neither the wired connection. I already tried reinstalling the broadcom drivers but is useless, would it be easier just reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[16:18] <DuncanT> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909920/ for an example
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: which broadcom do you have?
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[16:19] <ikonia> DuncanT: you'd need the lines above that
[16:21] <DuncanT> ikonia: The lines above that are standard dmesg doing it's normal thing... apparmour audit lines in this case
[16:21] <TJ-> DuncanT: "O" means an out-of-tree module is loaded
[16:22] <DuncanT> TJ-: That makes perfect sense, thanks
[16:22] <TJ-> DuncanT: For a fuller explanation of the symbols see the kernel's Documentation/oops-tracing.txt
[16:22] <aguitel> how install propietaries driver for this :ATI Technologies Inc RV370 secondary [Sapphire X550 Silent] ?
[16:22] <DuncanT> TJ-: Much appreciated
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> aguitel: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:22] <jhutchins> !ati
[16:23] <aguitel> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[16:23] <ometzit> ActionPa1snip: BCM4313
[16:23] <aguitel> ActionPa1snip, this is old pc
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> aguitel: it is no longer supported on the desktop
[16:24] <aguitel> ActionPa1snip, radeon does not working
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> aguitel: I sugget you upgrade to Precise which you can do in one jump (lts to lts is fully supported)
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> aguitel: your release is no longer supported on the desktop, only in server where the OS is pure CLI
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> aguitel: try Lubuntu 12.04, it is light and airy
[16:24] <jhutchins> ometzit: Which release was working for you?
[16:29] <Pinkamena_D> I have a persistant wifi network that ubuntu always attempts to connect to after turning on wifi called 'attwifi'
[16:29] <ometzit> ActionPa1snip: i don't remember hehehe based on the screenshots of the default wall paper in previous releases I would say it is 10.04
[16:30] <Pinkamena_D> it is not in the list of known networks, how can I remove it?
[16:30] <bazu> gwibber on ubuntu 12.04 for facebook not working
[16:30] <bazu> hot to fix it
[16:32] <Rory> !details | bazu
[16:32] <c2tarun> Hi, is there any application which can backup ubuntu data and can restore on Windows as well as Mac? (cross platform backup tool)
[16:33] <kkkkk> HI all, I burned a data DVD was having a file greater than 2gb , using K3B and this DVD is working properly in windows but not in Linux,  dvd spins and nothing happens, then i googled a bit and mounted it using sudo mount /dev/sro/ /cdrom and then DVD mounted in /cdrom, but why this is not happening automatically
[16:33] <kkkkk> for UDF files
[16:33] <Rory> Pinkamena_D: Can you please run the command "nmcli con"?
[16:33] <Rory> Pinkamena_D: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[16:33] <bazu> ubuntu 12.04.4 x64 and when i start gwibber and go to add account and try to add facebook account the error masage is this: App Not Setup: The developers of this app have not set up this app properly for Facebook Login.
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> c2tarun: rsync
[16:34] <ometzit> how do I send a private message to keep easier track of a support conversation?
[16:34] <Rory> ometzit: depends on your client, but usually "/msg username some text here"
[16:34] <Rory> !pm | ometzit however
[16:34] <Rory> bazu: I googled "Ubuntu 12.04 gwibber facebook not working" and this was the first link http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/fix-facebook-not-working-with-gwibber.html
[16:34] <Rory> bazu: You're welcome
[16:35] <bazu> rory i try that and doesnt work for me
[16:35] <bazu> account page not open when change the code
[16:35] <ometzit> ok, or if I put the reply of a question here starting with the username will it be highligthed automatically for said user?
[16:36] <kkkkk> HI all, I burned a data DVD was having a file greater than 2gb , using K3B and this DVD is working properly in windows but not in Linux,  dvd spins and nothing happens, then i googled a bit and mounted it using sudo mount /dev/sro/ /cdrom and then DVD mounted in /cdrom, but why this is not happening automatically
[16:36] <aguitel> ActionPa1snip, with lubuntu will be support with the vga card Sapphire X550 Silent?
[16:38] <Rory> bazu: Can you please install the "pastebinit" package using the command: "sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit" - then share the contents of the file in question with the command: "pastebinit /usr/share/gwibber/plugins/facebook/__init__.py"
[16:38] <Rory> bazu: That will give you a URL, which you should share in this channel
[16:38] <ometzit> ActionPa1snip my previous version was 10.04
[16:39] <Rory> kkkkk: Do other CD's/DVD's mount automatically? Or does it affect every disk you try in the drive?
[16:39] <bazu> rory sorry can you copy becouse i click on clean not ot copy :D
[16:40] <Rory> bazu: Sorry? Run the following command (the part after the colon) in a terminal:
[16:40] <Rory> sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; pastebinit /usr/share/gwibber/plugins/facebook/__init__.py
[16:40] <Rory> err there's no colon, just run that whole line ^
[16:41] <she_dyed> with the pastbinit, i suppose...
[16:41] <bazu> rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910031/
[16:43] <Rory> bazu: Did you run afterwards: "killall gwibber-service" and then "gwibber-service &"
[16:44] <bazu> yup
[16:46] <Rory> bazu: It looks like a bug was filed, and a later version has hit pre-release upgrades
[16:46] <ometzit> shall I reask my question? I think ActionPa1snip is busy lol
[16:46] <Rory> bazu: enable the "Pre-releace updates (precise-proposed)" in Software Sources, then install the "gwibber-service-facebook" package, and then disable that repository again
[16:46] <bazu> ty
[16:48] <Rory> bazu: Comment #14 on this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/962535
[16:48] <share> ikonia: how can I destroy my Ubuntu partition
[16:49] <bazu> rory you are nice man, thank you
[16:49] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[16:53] <ometzit> I'm having problems with my WiFi after updating to 12.04, I already attempted reinstalling the Broadcom (BCM4313) but it was useless, and after many changes I think it is easier to re install Ubuntu, there is a message saying that a partial installation must be attemped, however the update manager freezes
[16:54] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: try upgrading in terminal, bit easier and the output is useful
[16:56] <ometzit> ActionPa1snip upgrade ubunto from 12.04 to 13.10 you mean?
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: no, and you'd need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: then to 13.04, then to 13.10
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: in a terminal, run:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade     what is output?
[17:04] <gravyandfries> hey guys, anyhone willing to assist me with finding info on how to host a server for free from my home computer? I have been looking but i am really new and just trying to find a platform to start on and build off of
[17:04] <phesco> google
[17:04] <daftykins> gravyandfries: what do you want to run from home?
[17:04] <she_dyed> its a bit extensive to cover here in chat
[17:04] <gravyandfries> just a small website that can transfer files for my family to share family photos
[17:05] <gravyandfries> just a link would be helpful
[17:05] <gravyandfries> i can't find anything that is what i want
[17:05] <ometzit> ActionPa1snip: 227 updated 0 to install 0 to remove and 15 no updated
[17:05] <she_dyed> would dropbox work
[17:05] <gravyandfries> everything wants me to register a free hostname. I just want my "ip-address".sitefile.com
[17:05] <FiremanEd> gravyandfries: This is a little old but it can give you some info. http://linuxhomeserverguide.com/
[17:05] <gravyandfries> its for one of my college classes. It has to be home made.
[17:06] <gravyandfries> thank you guys. I appreciate the help :D
[17:06] <she_dyed> well we'd be helping you cheat
[17:06] <ometzit> it said impossible to obtain the packages, since i dont have internet working
[17:06] <daftykins> gravyandfries: you could just setup a dynamic DNS service from no-ip instead of buying a hostname
[17:06] <daftykins> *buying a domain name
[17:06] <she_dyed> ok thats a start right there
[17:07] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: ok, get the stuff that can be updated, updated
[17:08] <ometzit> yup but the problem is that neither the wifi or the wired connection works (i'm connected through another computer)
[17:08] <gravyandfries> am i able to host a website without a dns? by just setting a static ip?
[17:08] <ometzit> I mean I'm in this IRC through another computer ubuntu is in a dell laptop
[17:09] <ActionPa1snip> gravyandfries: you can 'get a website' using no-ip.com free account
[17:09] <daftykins> gravyandfries: your internet connection likely won't have a static IP
[17:09] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: get updated and seehow you go
[17:09] <daftykins> also DNS != domain name
[17:09] <bitspark> for making home server http://www.server-world.info/en/
[17:10] <gravyandfries> I am accustom to Visual Studio Programming so I feel like im drowning when im in this class haha thanks guys for the links im sure ill be back :P
[17:13] <Rory> gravyandfries: Come back and read that line you just said in two years when you're writing makefiles for your makefiles
[17:16] <ometzit> \
[17:18] <kerosene413> hello ubuntu room
[17:18] <leslibotelho> hello
[17:18] <kerosene413> how are you this monday
[17:18] <gravyandfries> how do dns companies get the domain names? Why cant i do that as well like them? All the internet is is a Giant WLAN with millions of LANS right?
[17:18] <Rory> kerosene413: Mind your language in here with the "m word" please
[17:19] <ometzit> but the problem is how to get updated without internet connection, there are several packages that need an update but neither the wifi or the wired connection are working
[17:19] <gordonjcp> gravyandfries: kind of, not WLAN as such though
[17:19] <gordonjcp> gravyandfries: you can look into becoming a domain name reseller
[17:19] <she_dyed> yes, but to keep things organizedd theres orgs like ICANN
[17:19] <Rory> gravyandfries: people in ##networking are pretty knowledgeable about networking, although that is somewhat more of a "where to start?" type of question
[17:19] <gordonjcp> gravyandfries: the actual domain registries ultimately tie back to ICANN
[17:20] <gordonjcp> gravyandfries: there is nothing to stop you running your own DNS and using whatever you like as a domain name
[17:20] <Rory> gravyandfries: I could call my street whatever I wanted to my friends, but that wouldn't make letters arrive at my made-up postal address
[17:20] <daftykins> remember people you're doing someones homework
[17:20] <daftykins> and not only that, but none of it is ubuntu support
[17:20] <Rory> Oh gravyandfries is this an assignment? The answers are in your lecture notes
[17:20] <daftykins> :P
[17:21] <kerosene413> what m word there fucko
[17:21] <Rory> "the answers are in your lecture notes" is one of my favourite things to say, along with "no problem, just restore from your most recent backup"
[17:21] <gravyandfries> actually kind of is, im using ubuntu to do setup a server as our final lol :D our teacher is having us research it cause our class is networking and we are learning about cisco routers and junk
[17:21] <Rory> kerosene413: It was a joke about "Monday", I apologise
[17:21] <gordonjcp> !language | Rory
[17:22] <gordonjcp> Rory: :-p
[17:22] <phesco> gravyandfries: google lamp server..
[17:22] <Rory> !lamp | gravyandfries
[17:22] <gravyandfries> lol, i saw lamp, combining all those
[17:22] <gravyandfries> I understand that, im just caught up on the dns
[17:23] <daftykins> gravyandfries: trust me, don't argue points :)
[17:23] <phesco> http://www.noip.com/
[17:23] <daftykins> you're mixing up domain names with DNS - they're not the same thing
[17:23] <daftykins> i also mentioned noip ages ago, which phesco has kindly linked you to now
[17:23] <daftykins> you have more than enough to get cracking
[17:24] <phesco> ah sry I missed some of the thread.. is he just being lazy now?
[17:24] <she_dyed> he is not aware his instructor logson too
[17:24] <gravyandfries> haha, I guess I was just lost on it yet. The whole DNS and Domain name and why i need to register a domain. Ill just look through what you guys led me to.
[17:25] <phesco> Good idea. You have tools to find the answers now.
[17:25] <c4iff> So just installed AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i386linux_enu.deb, yet if pdfs still open with the older version and If I try and open Adobe 9 manually nothing happens
[17:25] <wad> So about a month ago, I installed Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit desktop edition on my HP desktop computer. It has an NVidia video card in it. lspci shows: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [NVS 510] (rev a1)
[17:25] <wad> It's using the Nouveau drivers.
[17:26] <wad> It works about 20% of the time.
[17:26] <wad> When it boots, I can login to X, but it usually locks up at that point.
[17:26] <wad> Sometimes it doesn't lock up, and I get to my desktop.
[17:26] <wad> I just keep cycling the power until it works.
[17:26] <wad> This morning it took be about 15 minutes to get the thing up and running.
[17:27] <wad> The system generates "Problem detected" dialogs regularly. I always have them send in the bug reports. The issues are always with xorg.
[17:28] <wad> Any of you guys know of some magic sauce I can pour into the case, that will fix the problem?
[17:28] <she_dyed> bleach, kills the dna
[17:28] <phesco> vegetable oil
[17:29] <phesco> just unplug the fans first
[17:29]  * wad rushes off to Costco
[17:29] <phesco> ;)
[17:29] <ActionPa1snip> wad: have you tried other desktops than Gnome?
[17:29] <she_dyed> oh
[17:29] <wad> ActionPa1snip, I'm just using the default one.
[17:30] <wad> ActionPa1snip, is the default Gnome? I haven't really messed with desktops before.
[17:30] <she_dyed> ditto, not bad no work scheduled today \o/
[17:30] <lmat> I've asked about vnc a few times in here. Never got any good answers (because the problems were pretty complex). I just found the good answer to *all* vnc server (vino) questions:
[17:30] <lmat> use x11vnc
[17:30] <lmat> Okay, I've only used x11vnc for about 5 minutes, but it is *very* promising!
[17:31] <ActionPa1snip> wad: yes it's gnome, try installing xfce4 or lxde
[17:31] <lmat> VERY flexible, runs from cmdline, options out the wazoo, etc, etc, etc.
[17:31] <wad> ActionPa1snip, okay, I'll give it a try.
[17:31] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: no sleeker way to achieve your goal?
[17:31] <Pici> wii lmat
[17:31] <Pici> oops
[17:31] <ActionPa1snip> wad: you'll need to log off then log in to the new session to test
[17:31] <wad> ok
[17:32] <wad> Ah, you can choose a desktop at login?
[17:32] <ActionPa1snip> wad: yes
[17:32]  * wad googles xfce4 and lxde
[17:33] <ActionPa1snip> wad: they are package names
[17:33] <lmat> Pici: What's meant by wii ?
[17:33] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: Sleeker than x11vnc ? There is no sleeker as far as I can tell.
[17:33] <she_dyed> think thats a tiling window manager
[17:33] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: what do you do on the remote session when you are connected?
[17:33] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: view only.
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: bt to do what?
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: to spy on the user?
[17:34] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: what does bt mean ? I am running a Windows virtual machine so that I can
[17:34] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: yes.
[17:34] <Pici> lmat: mistab
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: and that's it?
[17:34] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: I'm running Lync because everyone at my company does. So, in order to share my screen, I need to set a VNC viewer
[17:35] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: on the windows machine, and have it view the host, linux machine.
[17:35] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: Then, lync can share the vnc viewer to the rest of the team.
[17:35] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: oh like a broadcast system for support?
[17:35] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: Alternatively, we use Adobe Connect (same problem, although that *might* run on Linux if I really want it to)
[17:35] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: No. It's for meetings. We're programmers, and sometimes, someone wants to have a meeting and have me show them something, etc.
[17:36] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: ahhh makes sense
[17:36] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: But it could be as you say.
[17:36] <skinux> What do we do with source that has autogen.sh, but not configure script?
[17:36] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: Right. *Very* basic use of vnc. I was using vino, and one day, the screen stopped updating on client!
[17:37] <she_dyed> skinux: but no README.1st file
[17:37] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: you can use tmux, then the person can connect to your tmux session and type in your terminal just like you would
[17:37] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81318/remote-desktop-view-krfb-vnc-not-updating-on-client
[17:37] <OerHeks> is there a Flappy-Bird for linux?
[17:37] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: HAHA!
[17:37] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: very cool
[17:37] <wad> ActionPa1snip, what are some other options? XFCE and LXDE appear to be very lightweight. I'll give them a try, but I'm wondering if there are other options too. I don't really need lightweight (8-core i7 3.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM, etc)
[17:37] <clocknet> ciao
[17:37] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: The developers here *only* use windows, only want to use windows, only use mouse, etc., etc.
[17:37] <EugeneBandit> Hello! Is there any problem possible when renaming the original folders in home ? For example : mv Desktop folder00 ?
[17:37] <Jabo> OerHeks: http://www.helicoptergame.net/
[17:37] <ActionPa1snip> wad: if the other desktops are without issue, you have isolated the cause of the problem
[17:37] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: lame
[17:37] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: So, this was my exact problem. And the solution was to install a new server. I was squeemish at first, but now *very* enthusiastic!
[17:37] <wad> ActionPa1snip, gotcha.
[17:37] <Jabo> OerHeks: Flappy Bird is a clone of that game, which is also a clone
[17:38] <OerHeks> thanks Jabo, i'll have a look
[17:38] <Jabo> different graphics but same game mechanic
[17:38] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: tmux is awesome in that way, saves having to get up and point at each others screen as you can typein each others terminals and code
[17:38] <fred``> is this the right chan for trusty bugs ?
[17:38] <nikolam> I have only wireless network card working and not UTP LAN. It is Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5721 and is not working now, once I changed motherboard.
[17:39] <ActionPa1snip> fred``: #ubuntu+1
[17:39] <fred``> thx
[17:39] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: I'm very familiar with tmux. In fact, the last few lines of by ~/.bashrc are   if [ -z "$TMUX" ]; then tmux; fi
[17:39] <OerHeks> Jabo, now i understand why the maker revokes this game, thanks again
[17:39] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: *very* lame.
[17:39] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: :(
[17:39] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: My productivity is x5 I think because I use linux!
[17:39] <kerosene413> hey anyone heard of Windows Antivirus master malware
[17:39] <kerosene413> hey anyone heard of Windows Antivirus master malware
[17:39] <kerosene413> hey anyone heard of Windows Antivirus master malware
[17:40] <kerosene413> ????
[17:40] <tyler_d> !spam
[17:40] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: I have a reasonable OS, but their OS is Eclipse IDE
[17:40] <lmat> kerosene413: you're a virus.
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: by definition not :)
[17:40] <OerHeks> kerosene413, wrong irc channel, join ##windows
[17:40] <kerosene413> nope im a client
[17:40] <tyler_d> !ask > kermit
[17:40] <lmat> kerosene413: Pardon me, you're acting like a virus ^_^ stop it.
[17:41] <kermit> tyler_d: i think you meant that for someone else
[17:41] <tyler_d> I did indeed kermit :p
[17:42] <tyler_d> sorry
[17:42] <she_dyed> think so too
[17:42] <tyler_d> kerosene413, is the intended party
[17:42] <theukdave> Any ubuntu gurus and/or database admins that are UK or London based, please give me a shout, we have some freelance work going to tidy up our installation, and I'm looking for someone who really knows their stuff ... unlike me :)
[17:42] <ActionPa1snip> theukdave: please spam elsewhere
[17:43] <theukdave> ActionPa1snip: how's that spam?
[17:43] <ActionPa1snip> theukdave: this is support only, for people with ubuntu issues.
[17:43] <lmat> theukdave:  /topic ?
[17:43] <lmat> theukdave: guru.com, however, might be an excellent place to find your gurus :)
[17:43] <ActionPa1snip> theukdave: and advertising unwantedly is considered spam
[17:44] <theukdave> ActionPa1snip: I'm looking for some onsite help, I don't have to pay them if that helps it not be spam
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> theukdave: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[17:44] <wad> ActionPa1snip, maybe you can deconfuse me... is "Gnome" the name of  Ubuntu's default "window manager"? What is "unity" and "compiz" and "lightdm" then?
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> wad: Ubuntu's default window manage is Compiz. Unity is a shell and is nothing more than a plugin for compiz
[17:45] <lmat> wad: You're on a long road. good luck :)
[17:45] <wad> Oh, and X11, and xorg. All the linux gui thingies are getting muddled in my brain.
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> wad: lightdm gives you the graphical login screen
[17:45]  * wad takes noes
[17:45] <wad> notes
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> wad: the X11 / Xorg is the disaply server that it all sits on
[17:45] <lmat> wad: I spent some time with wikipedia: lookup Desktop Environment, desktop manager, window manager, x server
[17:46] <tyler_d> how do I set up a hotkey for enabling/disabling my touchpad?
[17:46] <ActionPa1snip> wad: lots of people think unity replaces gnome, but it doesnt
[17:46] <OerHeks> tyler_d, most laptops have such FN key
[17:46] <tyler_d> OerHeks, Mine does not function :(
[17:46] <CaptainTacoSauce> Okay hopefully this is an easy one. I install remmina, it works. I install remmina-plugins-nx, it installs, but doesn't show in plugins in remmina, but /usr/lib/remmina/plugins/remmina-plugin-nx.so exists, what do?
[17:46] <tyler_d> see what I did there
[17:47] <ActionPa1snip> CaptainTacoSauce: did you compleely close remmina, then reopen it?
[17:47] <wad> ah
[17:47] <ActionPa1snip> wad: its all about layers
[17:47] <Caerdwyn> Anyone happen to know what ntfscluster is used/called for during a shutdown/reboot/halt? I keep getting the command's help output constantly when I turn off my laptop :|
[17:47] <wad> I need to find the diagram that shows the layers
[17:47] <Caerdwyn> http://i.imgur.com/9UCBfLG.jpg
[17:47] <niee> hi folks. sometimes my sound stops. I need to restart my OS ];
[17:47] <kzetts> Hi, I had to use nomodeset to get the disk to boot, now my gfx resolution isnt listed. How do I set a new mode without using xorg.conf?
[17:47] <ActionPa1snip> wad: you can perform X forwardikng becuse the Xorg layer can be moved to a remote PC and the OS doesn't care
[17:48] <CaptainTacoSauce> ActionPa1snip: Haha derp, how did I miss that? I closed it but there was some leftover process running. Thanks.
[17:48] <ActionPa1snip> CaptainTacoSauce: needs killing and reopening to load the new stuff
[17:49] <ActionPa1snip> wad: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Schema_of_the_layers_of_the_graphical_user_interface.svg
[17:49] <OerHeks> tyler_d, this answer might be any help >> http://askubuntu.com/a/182531
[17:49] <CaptainTacoSauce> Makes sense, just surprised closing it didn't stop the process, either way, solved. :D
[17:50] <wad> thanks!
[17:50] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: See if you can find it mentioned in the init scripts, with "sudo grep ntfscluster /etc/init{,.d}/*"
[17:51] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: no results.
[17:51] <tyler_d> OerHeks, listed, but no effect on input when doing that
[17:51] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: OK, so must be some sub-script of those
[17:51] <wad> ActionPa1snip, that's a great diagram, thanks! Where does lightdm fit in there? I don't think it has anything to do with the display manager, does it replace the graphical interface?
[17:51] <wad> Just for logging in.
[17:52] <ActionPa1snip> wad: lightdm loads first, then you login and it loads the desktop things as instructed
[17:52] <OerHeks> tyler_d, maybe logout/login to activate new keys?
[17:52] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: I've been digging through the rc6.d and rc0.d folders all day, haven't found a thing yet that it could be... I uninstall ntfs-3g since ntfscluster seems to be some part of that package, and I get http://i.imgur.com/jsiMFLo.jpg
[17:53] <nikolam> Is BTRFS is or will be supported in next LTS?
[17:53] <ActionPa1snip> nikolam: yes
[17:53] <tyler_d> OerHeks, that wouln't much help on the fly though... and the input can be changed from the mouse settings
[17:53] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: That seems to suggest it is a VirtualBox related issue
[17:53] <wad> Which one of those boxes does, say, lxde replace? Is it the "graphical interface"?
[17:53] <ActionPa1snip> wad: it replaces gnome/kde etc
[17:53] <tyler_d> OerHeks, I was unable however to find what is being run to do that from the settings
[17:53] <wad> Ah, okay.
[17:53] <ActionPa1snip> wad: you can run Compiz + Unity in LXDE if you wish :)
[17:53] <nikolam> ActionPa1snip, with using set-default for volumes before reboot for changing active subvolume, or is there some support for changing GRUB2 items?
[17:53] <ragnarula> can someone help? How do i get invited to the programming channels like #c++ or #java?
[17:53] <nikolam> ActionPa1snip, that is good news
[17:54] <ActionPa1snip> nikolam: no idea, not something I use, try i n#ubuntu+1 when Trusty is discussed and support (til release day)
[17:54] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: So VirtualBox is messing around with ntfscluster? That's really odd, I've never seen something like that before, though it was only just recently I installed Windows 7 on another harddisk, using a raw .vmdk file (raw access to the hard disk)
[17:54] <nikolam> ActionPa1snip, ok, thanks
[17:55] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: No, not necessarily, but VB looks to be the 'thing' that is last done prior to the error report
[17:55] <wad> Okay, so I  installed lxde, logged out, but didn't see any way to choose which graphical interface I wanted to run on login. I clicked everything I could find to click....
[17:55] <wad> Did I miss something, or am I looking in the wrong place?
[17:56] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: is there a way to see what exactly is being done during shutdown, i.e., viewing what exactly is being killed/closed before it turns off? Basically, a verbose shutdown...
[17:57] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, enable syslogging
[17:57] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: not much more than you alreayd have, by its nature, core services are being stopped.
[17:57] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: as in, /var/log/syslog? If I remember correctly, syslogd is already active...
[17:58] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, you may want to offload the messages to get more logging details from the system though
[17:58] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: ah, so there isn't really a verbose way of showing each kill command, or what is being done, other then just "*All Processes ended in 1 second"
[17:58] <ActionPa1snip> wad: its the little logo near your username
[17:58] <lmat> wad: ActionPa1snip: aye, excellent diagram!
[17:58] <wad> ActionPa1snip, Ah, okay.
[17:58] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: I don't understand what you're asking... offload them how? to what?
[17:58] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Here's the thing: If the cause was another Ubuntu package, it would "Depend" on "ntfs-3g", and so removing "ntfs-3g" would cause the other package to be removed as well. Therefore, this suggests whatever is causing the issue is either 1) a user-created configuration option or 2) a non-Ubuntu package installation
[17:58]  * wad tries again
[17:58] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: But what's a desktop manager ?
[17:59] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, what is it exactly you are looking to discover from the shutdown process? What I am saying is that for finite logging offload the syslogs to a syslog server for viewing afterwards...
[17:59] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, but pending what information you are looking for and why we may be able to better help.
[18:00] <ActionPa1snip> lmat: lmat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[18:00] <darren> hey all
[18:00] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: http://i.imgur.com/9UCBfLG.jpg <-- "ntfscluster" is being called twice during the shutdown process at the very last moment, spewing out its help information
[18:00] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: what I want to know is what process or script is calling it, and how can I stop it?
[18:01] <darren> Must say, i have experimented with linux for the past year but in the last 2 weeks, i have really started to understand linux a lot more
[18:01] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, have you checked running services? searched for reference in your init.d?
[18:01] <darren> and linux is really great when you take time to learn the new system ><
[18:02] <lmat> darren: Welcome!
[18:02] <TJ-> tyler_d: Yes, we've already done that
[18:02] <Caerdwyn> ^
[18:02] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: I'm wondering if it is related to a fuser or system un-mount script/operation
[18:02] <lmat> ActionPa1snip: I see, so it's a particular approach to the "GUI" layer in the diagram.
[18:02] <skinux> Help with this please: make[2]: *** [examples] Error 255
[18:02] <skinux> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/skinux/Downloads/gegl/gegl/docs'
[18:02] <tyler_d> TJ-, Caerdwyn so you did `sudo grep -Rl ntfscluster /etc/*`
[18:03] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: grepping for "ntfscluster" in any of the scripts in /etc/init.d has shown 0 results, and there is no other results either from digging in /etc/rc6.d or /etc/rc0.d
[18:03] <daftykins> darren: that's wonderful, but this is a support channel :)
[18:03] <lmat> looks like we lost wad ActionPa1snip ^_^
[18:03] <ActionPa1snip> just making new users at work (zzzzzzzzzzz)
[18:03] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: I thought the same thing, but I've not been able to find it yet. /etc/rc6.0?/S60unmountfs has many mount commands in it, but nothing that appears to be calling ntfscluster
[18:03] <darren> I do have some questions :p but i think im in the wrong channell.. I want to look into how to use my programming hobby to do some programming for linux system and for linux OS's ...
[18:04] <darren> but just realised this is ubuntu server
[18:04] <bazhang> ##programming darren
[18:04] <niee> hi folks. sometimes my sound stops. I need to restart my OS ]; any ideas?
[18:04] <darren> thanks
[18:04] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, so you did the recursive grep from /etc/ and came up with nothing?
[18:05] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d:
[18:05] <Caerdwyn> edward@ubuntu:~$ sudo grep -Rl ntfscluster /etc/*
[18:05] <Caerdwyn> grep: /etc/blkid.tab: No such file or directory
[18:05] <Caerdwyn> That's it.
[18:05] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, disable the service, reboot, ensure it's actually running (ps -ef) and shutdown
[18:06] <tyler_d> pelase
[18:06] <gravyandfries> Hi guys! Back again :P curious real quick would Bind9 be used in ubuntu 13.10 to setup a hostname to connect from anywhere or would I still need a DomainName Provider like no-ip or dyndns?
[18:06] <tyler_d> please too :)
[18:06] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: what service?
[18:06] <tyler_d> is it not installed as a service Caerdwyn
[18:06]  * Caerdwyn is still relatively new to ubuntu
[18:06] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: no, ntfscluster is a binary at /bin/ntfscluster
[18:06] <daftykins> gravyandfries: no you're confusing DNS and domains again, they're not the same thing
[18:06] <ActionPa1snip> gravyandfries: you would need  a web facing DNS to resolve the name to your IP
[18:07] <tux_fan> smbdy an idea how to fix this : eth0: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg357766.bin" ?
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> gravyandfries: you need to get a service online which will translate the name to your IP
[18:07] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, `service --status-all | grep "ntfscluster"`
[18:07] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: which Ubuntu version is this?
[18:07] <tux_fan> eth0 is working though, but not the integrated (broadcom netXtreme) sd card reader chip
[18:08] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: 13.10
[18:08] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: http://i.imgur.com/ysLy0B7.png
[18:09] <TJ-> tyler_d: Caerdwyn: Something other than the ntfs-3g package is responsible, since there's a ntfs-3g shared-library error after the "ntfs-3g" package is uninstalled
[18:09] <gravyandfries> Well I have the 13.10 installed and running and i went ahead and installed LAMP and Samba. So ill just have to use my local host and have it connect to the dyndns/no-ip host name? Correct? Just don't wanna ruin the pc I have to test on.
[18:09] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: That's what I thought too, but /what/ it is though has got me stumped.
[18:10] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: What, if anything, have you installed or customised that isn't a part of the standard Ubuntu archives?
[18:10] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, strange, try that without the quotes around ntfscluster please
[18:10] <Caerdwyn> I've had VirtualBox on this machine for a while now, and this /just/ started happening recently, within the past few days. Only recently installed packages within the past week have been HexChat, xosview, and MultiBit
[18:10] <franco014> hola
[18:10] <franco014> }
[18:10] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: same results as the first time
[18:10] <franco014> :P
[18:11] <tyler_d> Caerdwyn, those aren't matches though so I'm a tad bit confused
[18:11] <Caerdwyn> tyler_d: same here...
[18:11] <franco014> hola ahy alguien ahy
[18:12] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Long shot, but look for mentions in the executable paths: "for f in /{s,}bin/* /usr/{s,}bin/* /usr/local/{s,}bin/*; do if file $f | grep -q POSIX ; then grep -l ntfscluster $f; fi; done"
[18:12] <Luilakde1e> Hi. Am I only missing some logic in this picture and what possibly could be the reason it's doing this? http://ubuntuone.com/11N3Glchi9uaazPEtg02ca
[18:12] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: anything I've installed, minus Steam and MultiBit, has been from the Ubuntu repo, so I've not made any major changes to the machine, other then my own customization tweaks like backgrounds and transparency of the unity panel
[18:13] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: 0 results on your command
[18:13] <tyler_d> TJ-, why would that grep have shown all the unmatched stuff from service --status-all?
[18:14] <Caerdwyn> Be right back, it appears a breaker blew downstairs, power went out >_<
[18:14] <daftykins> gravyandfries: ok, wow. a service such as NoIP - all it does is publish to the internet that your home internet-facing IP address (visit whatismyip.com or look on your router webpages to see it) is returned when someone types yourdomainchoice.no-ip.biz - understand?
[18:14] <lmat> When I sudo apt-get upgrade, gcc is still at 4.6. Is Ubuntu unimpressed with gcc 4.7 or something ?
[18:15] <daftykins> !latest | lmat
[18:15] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: tyler_d: Because service writes to stderr. Do "  service --status-all 2>&1 | grep "ntfscluster"   "
[18:15] <lmat> daftykins: Gotcha. I'll leave out the, "But we're talking about gcc, here! 4.6.3 is way old!" bit ^_^
[18:16] <daftykins> ;)
[18:16] <daftykins> lmat: just be sure your PPAs are pointing to a good source, for the versions you're being told
[18:16] <tyler_d> TJ-, ty sir.
[18:17] <xjkx> I can't take screenshots...I run openbox, and when I run by command line the gnome-screenshot, it says this "** Message: Unable to use GNOME Shell's builtin screenshot interface, resorting to fallback X11." and I tried import -w root picture.jpg but I get an almost all black picture
[18:17] <gravyandfries> daftykins: Gotcha, gotcha, ok. I apologize. Today is the first time I have EVER used linux/Ubuntu and networking past a LAN. So thank you. I do appreciate the help!
[18:17] <xjkx> Running 13.10 64 bits
[18:17] <daftykins> gravyandfries: so once you have a dynamic DNS service running, such as from no-ip, you need to install a client at home to keep that address up to date
[18:18] <Luilakde1e>  To clarify my earlier picture (http://ubuntuone.com/11N3Glchi9uaazPEtg02ca) I keep running out of diskspace, or so my system wants to make me believe. I've deleted all large files. Checking disk usage, my home folder implies I'm using the full 30 gig. My home folder appears to imply otherwise. Any clues?
[18:18] <daftykins> gravyandfries: once you've done that - you need a service to actually be running and open externally to the internet, so others can reach it. for example a web server. this will require port forwarding on the router.
[18:18] <gravyandfries> yup, i already adjusted the ports. I have them forwarding on 8080.
[18:18] <TJ-> Caerdwyn:  tyler_d: *something* is linked against ntfs-3g that isn't part of the Ubuntu repositories, or a package in the repos doesn't correctly "depends" on ntfs-3g, for this error when "ntfs-3g" package isn't installed http://i.imgur.com/jsiMFLo.jpg
[18:21] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Let's pretend we think it is caused by VirtualBox. Look in "/etc/init.d/" and "/etc/init/" for any obvious VB service scripts. If you find one/some, try manually stopping each one in turn and seeing if you get the same error at the console, so "sudo service XXXXX stop"
[18:23] <xjkx> (13.10, 64 bits) I can't take screenshots, I run openbox, and when I run by command line the gnome-screenshot, it says this "** Message: Unable to use GNOME Shell's builtin screenshot interface, resorting to fallback X11." and I tried import -w root picture.jpg but I get an almost all black picture
[18:23] <tyler_d> fun stuff.
[18:24] <tyler_d> xjkx, personally I prefer shutter :p
[18:25] <xjkx> tyler_d: thanks will give it a try
[18:26] <niee> ubuntu buged system
[18:26] <zykotick9> xjkx: scrot is a very minimal screenshot app - you might want to try
[18:26] <xjkx> zykotick9: didnt know this one either, will try as well thanks
[18:27] <zykotick9> xjkx: fyi, it's terminal based - if that's an issue for you
[18:27] <c4iff> Having some issues with libstdc++ and getting adobe reader 9.5 to work
[18:27] <callemann> Hi, just installed Ubuntu 13.1 on a Macbook Core 2 duo
[18:27] <xjkx> zykotick9: Ah I dont mind it
[18:27] <ometzit> Hello everyone, one question: how can I reinstall Ubuntu, from Ubuntu is there a way to open the Ubuntu installer while running it, I want to re install my distribution but I don't have a pen drive or a dvd nearby
[18:27] <callemann> Everything is good, except my trackpad does not work
[18:28] <callemann> Not sure how to troubleshoot.
[18:29] <TJ-> ometzit: You can reinstall one or more packages using "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packages>" but it's not possible to run the ubiquity installer against the running system
[18:29] <nikolam> Does removing application removes also packages that were installed as dependencies?
[18:29] <gravyandfries> Wow, got all that info and everything and my ISP wont support website hosting... guess im just making a normal little file storage with ubuntu. Have a good one guys!
[18:29] <nikolam> Or separate command is needed to list and remove them
[18:29] <TJ-> nikolam: If it doesn't "sudo apt-get autoremove" will
[18:31] <callemann> can anyone helt me with a non-functioning trackpad?
[18:31] <ometzit> TJ- how do I issue that command for all the packages
[18:31] <TJ-> ometzit: What are you *really* trying to do/fix ?
[18:31] <ometzit> on the other hand, I'm without internet
[18:32] <TJ-> ometzit: "apt-get --reinstall install ..." will work without network access *if* the packages are still in "/var/cache/apt/archives/"
[18:32] <ometzit> fix the wired-wireless conection. I have a broadcom card and I have made so many changes to the blacklist that I feel it would be easier just to reinstall ubuntu
[18:32] <zykotick9> TJ-: seems like a waste of time to me...
[18:33] <ActionPa1snip> gravyandfries: just buy a domain on 123reg then point the IP to your router's wan IP. done
[18:33] <ometzit> to the blacklist and everything else
[18:34] <TJ-> ometzit: Without an installer ISO or network access I'd suggest it'd be much easier to clean up the current mess :)
[18:35] <waigoren> Does ubuntu automatically set sysctl : fs.file-max or /proc/sys/fs/file-max ?
[18:36] <ometzit> :( okay, the card is a BCM4313, I think the problem is that I used a wrong driver
[18:36] <lmat> huh-oh...I sudo apt-get purge gcc-4.6   and it removed a lot of stuff...I'm scared to restart now.
[18:36] <lmat> Apparently unity desktop (or was it gnome desktop) was removed ? and vim ? eek...
[18:36] <ActionPa1snip> waigoren: if you set things in /etc/sysctl.conf   you can make them be what you wish
[18:36] <ometzit> the card is actually recognized, but is stuck in asking for the wifi password but it doesnt log in
[18:37] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: are there lots of networks on the same channel around you?
[18:37] <waigoren> ActionPa1snip: what I'm seeing is, file-max is already set to different numbers on different servers in my environment (I'm the only sysadmin, no one else is setting them)
[18:37] <TJ-> ometzit: Well, that sounds like some kind of success. I'd be looking at the Network-Manager entries in "/var/log/syslog" since they are usually very descriptive of what is going on
[18:37] <ometzit> yup a hell lot I'm in a student complex
[18:38] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: on the same channel?
[18:38] <ActionPa1snip> ometzit: then thats the issue, switch to a less busy channel
[18:38] <xdotcommer> does rc.local always run as root
[18:38] <ActionPa1snip> xdotcommer: yes
[18:39] <ActionPa1snip> xdotcommer: you can use su to make commands run as a different user
[18:39] <xdotcommer> I am running: screen /mine/scrip.sh
[18:39] <ometzit> let me try that in a second, TJ- what info should I look in the syslog
[18:39] <xdotcommer> but it does not seem like its started by root
[18:39] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: back, sorry... Power went out -_-
[18:39] <ometzit> the last entry is NetworkManager 1046 couldn't disconnect supplicsnt interface: this interface is not connected
[18:40] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: in /etc/init.d, there is vboxautostart-service, vbosballoonctrl-service, vboxdrv, and vboxweb-service.
[18:40] <TJ-> ometzit: Anything and everything ... ensure for starters it is trying to authorize against the access point you expect it too. In a crowded space their may be identical SSIDs
[18:40] <ActionPa1snip> xdotcommer: then run:  ps -ef | grep scrip.sh | grep -v grep | awk {'print $1'}
[18:40] <ActionPa1snip> xdotcommer: what is output?
[18:40] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: No worries. OK... as I said, try stopping each of those in turn and seeing if you get the same error at the console
[18:41] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: You've got to narrow down the possibilities since the cause isn't obvious. That will either rule in or out the vbox services
[18:41] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: stop each one and see if it shows that error immediately? or reboot each time? I only see that error during shutdown/halt/reboot
[18:41] <ometzit> okay i'm going to copy a few lines to a (how was the name of the page where you can copy the output and it gives you a short url?)
[18:41] <Caerdwyn> ometzit: pastebin it?
[18:42] <zykotick9> !paste | ometzit
[18:42] <ometzit> yup, thnks
[18:42] <ometzit> ah much better
[18:42] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Just stop each one in turn. You're looking for any service that causes the error. At shutdown all services are called with "stop" - you're simulating that manually.
[18:43] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: ah, so a "sudo service xxx stop" now would throw that error in the terminal if it was the cause?
[18:43] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: We hope :)
[18:43] <Caerdwyn> or in this case, "/etc/init.d/service stop"
[18:43] <Voyage> how to give full access to everyone for a dir?
[18:43] <Voyage> by console
[18:43] <ometzit> okay here is the syslog (a few lines) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910608/
[18:44] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: "service" executable will look for both Sys V and Upstart jobs
[18:44] <zykotick9> Voyage: the the dir in question on an EXT partition?
[18:44] <zykotick9> s/the the/is the/
[18:44] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: http://i.imgur.com/dwK83RA.png
[18:44] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: The other way to do it is "sudo initctl stop <jobname>"
[18:44] <ometzit> network name is TheWalkingNet (funny name)
[18:44] <Caerdwyn> Alright, didn't know that one
[18:45] <Voyage> zykotick9,  yes
[18:45] <Dbugger> Hey guys. I just apt-get installed phpmyadmin, but in localhost/phpmyadmin appears nothing. Can someone give me a hand?
[18:45] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: but as you can see, no errors... This is really weird :|
[18:45] <bazu> i use thunderbird for mail client and irc client on my ubuntu 12.04.4 x64 but when press "x" a.k.a close just kill the service but doest stay in notification area
[18:45] <zykotick9> Voyage: "chmod 777 /path/to/dir"
[18:45] <Voyage> zykotick9,  if its an ntfs?
[18:46] <zykotick9> Voyage: then you CAN'T use gnu/linux tools!  it has everything to do with how it's mounted.
[18:46] <zykotick9> Voyage: is it ntfs?
[18:46] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: OK, how about pastebin/screenshot for me "ls -l /etc/rc6.d/"  ?
[18:46] <Voyage> zykotick9,  yes
[18:46] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: lets focus on the shutdown scripts themselves
[18:46] <zykotick9> Voyage: i can't/won't help - good luck.
[18:46] <Voyage> zykotick9,  thanks
[18:46] <ometzit> most recent login attempt in line 1000 gives Feb 10 19:38:18 luis-laptop wpa_supplicant[1239]: Association request to the driver failed
[18:46] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: http://i.imgur.com/DbR35WH.png
[18:48] <bazu> i use thunderbird for mail client and irc client on my ubuntu 12.04.4 x64 but when press "x" a.k.a close just kill the service but doest stay in notification area
[18:48] <Jetien> Hi! Just installed 13.10 x64 and something seems to be wrong with policy system. 1) I can't create network connections in nm-applet 2) if i try to start synaptic i'm not asked for a password and nothing happens 3) aplay -l shows me no soundcards, even though as root i can play sound -  I think these are all related. Can you please me find out the source of these errors?
[18:48] <d4rk4g3s> hello.
[18:48] <robbiebob> hello
[18:49] <uporot> hi
[18:49] <d4rk4g3s> is there a way to boot an ubuntu usb on a mac?
[18:49] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Can you pastebinit this output? "ps -efly"  ... I want to investigate the running process list for clues
[18:49] <d4rk4g3s> just for temporary use, like as a liveusb, not for installations.
[18:49] <Caerdwyn> !pastebinit
[18:49] <Caerdwyn> Hmmm, lemme install that real quick, TJ-
[18:49] <ometzit> i'm going to try the switching to another band method in the mean time, i'll be back
[18:50] <bazu> d4rk4g3s: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[18:50] <robbiebob> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[18:50] <robbiebob> for bootable usb
[18:50] <Rallias> Is there something like wireshark but for PCIe instead of network?
[18:51] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910647/
[18:51] <uporot> bazu: cool! i too do usb flash for mac
[18:52] <xjkx> Gftp doesn't record my password for ftp, does anyone recommend me another ftp client, or how to make it record at least ?
[18:53] <robbiebob> filezilla perhaps?
[18:53] <bazu> filezzila
[18:53] <administrador> a
[18:53] <administrador> hola
[18:53] <uporot> heil!
[18:54] <xjkx> Thanks will try filezilla
[18:54] <administrador> me voy a windows
[18:54] <administrador> :P
[18:55] <zykotick9> ftp must die!  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[18:55] <tyler_d> zykotick9, bit old don't you think? most have already read everything from wooly
[18:55] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Does this happen even if you do not have the two NTFS file-systems (/dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc2) mounted?
[18:56] <zykotick9> tyler_d: if people are asking about saved ftp passwords - obviously not everyone has read it/or understood it ;)
[18:56] <tyler_d> fair enough
[18:56] <Jetien> Okay different question: How do you find out the error of an 'apport' dialog to pop-up?
[18:57] <Jetien> I get 3 at session start
[18:57] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: yes. Right now, my laptop is plugged into a hub which has a 2TB external hard disk, a 500gb external (both NTFS, the ones you see), a iPod, and flash drive on it. Whether or not any of that is attached (the laptop is alone, no attached devices), it still throws that error, regardless.
[18:57] <tyler_d> Jetien, strace? increase logging level of the application directly... run from a terminal....
[18:57] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: ok, that is helpful since it suggests that it's not a process launched by an un-mount operation
[18:58] <Jetien> tyler_d, I don't know which applications are crashing - there are just 3 pop-ups saying 'System program problem detected'
[18:58] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: ok?
[18:58] <tyler_d> Jetien, there must be more details available either in the dialog or alternately in /var/log/something.....
[18:58] <Pici> Jetien: there should be files in /var/crash/
[18:58] <Jetien> tyler_d, already checked. nothing in syslog
[18:59] <tyler_d> Jetien, what about the other logs
[18:59] <tyler_d> Jetien, still kern, Xorg, dmesg
[18:59] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: We know there's a problem even when ntfs-3g package is uninstalled, so something has a link to it that shouldn't have
[19:00] <Jetien> nothing in lightdm/lightm.log
[19:01] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: something interesting I tried earlier (while the error was happening), I "sudo mv /bin/ntfscluster /bin/ntfscluster.bak && touch /bin/ntfscluster && chmod +x /bin/ntfscluster" to see if a reboot/halt would ignore that command... Nope. It still somehow called the help of ntfscluster and printed it all over the shutdown "log", as shown in the screenshots.
[19:01] <Jetien> No (EE) in Xorg.0.log
[19:01] <Jetien> Nothing ordinary in /var/log/dmesg
[19:01] <tyler_d> Jetien, the error must be more verbose than simply stating a failure I should think?
[19:01] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: did it thinking that "well, maybe if it sees an empty executable in /bin, it'll ignore it and shutdown gracefully". Nope, it figured it out and still called the normal /bin/ntfscluster anyway.
[19:01] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: really? that *is* interesting. Have you looked for other installs of a non-Ubuntu ntfs-3g package?
[19:02] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: "find /usr/local/ -type f -name '*ntfs*'  "
[19:02] <Jetien> tyler_d, yes i suspect something like ssh-agent failing
[19:02] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: no results, went immediately back to the shell.
[19:03] <Jetien> there are no recently-created files in /var/crash
[19:03] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: OK, had to be too easy :)
[19:03] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: ...what?
[19:03] <Jetien> the three pop-ups only have buttons 'cancel' and 'report problem' - why..
[19:04] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: I mean, finding the cause is going to be a lot more difficult that a simple search like that :)
[19:04] <Xuisce_> Hi all
[19:04] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: Oh, of course... if it were that simple, I wouldn't have had to figure out where this irc channel was, and call for help from people with actual experience xD
[19:04] <tyler_d> Jetien, that's quite frustrating if it doesn't show you what it is that has pooped.
[19:04] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: How about "locate ntfscluster"
[19:04] <Pici> Jetien: iirc, "report problem" gives you a window that lists what would be submitted, and in there you should see more info.
[19:05] <Caerdwyn> TJ-:
[19:05] <Caerdwyn> sudo mv /bin/ntfscluster /bin/ntfscluster.bak && touch /bin/ntfscluster && chmod +x /bin/ntfscluster
[19:05] <Jetien> Pici, nothing happens when i click that button
[19:05] <Caerdwyn> whoops
[19:05] <Caerdwyn>  /bin/ntfscluster
[19:05] <Caerdwyn>  /usr/share/man/man8/ntfscluster.8.gz
[19:05] <Jetien> that is probably also related to the other problems :)
[19:05] <Jetien> the most frustrating thing is that it's a fresh 13.10 install
[19:06] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: I think it's time for brute-force and ignorance... and a little time: "sudo grep -rn ntfscluster /usr/lib/*"
[19:06] <Jetien> I already tried a different desktop environment. same issues there
[19:06] <Rory> "I think it's time for brute-force and ignorance" - #ubuntu, feb 2014
[19:06] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: "brute force and ignorance". I like you.
[19:06] <Caerdwyn> XD
[19:06] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: You'll like my big hammer even more, then :)
[19:07] <Caerdwyn> :o
[19:07] <Caerdwyn> man, I like you guys already...
[19:07] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: I've been doing extensive web-searches for any utilities that might make use of ntfscluster. Aside from some ddrescue scripts, I cannot find anything.
[19:08] <Caerdwyn> Aye, I've had the same luck here as well... Spent about 4 straight hours today so far, researching what in the world could possibly be using this "ntfscluster" program, other then it appears to be a part of the ntfsprogs/ntfs-3g package
[19:09] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: http://i.imgur.com/aWEmNS1.png
[19:09] <Caerdwyn> You're not gonna like me very soon, I can tell :P
[19:09] <Caerdwyn> Nothing you've given me command-wise has turned up any results... ._<
[19:09] <daftykins> lol posting an image of command line output
[19:09] <Caerdwyn> >_<*
[19:09] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: If there were an NTFS mount, then I could understand another ntfs-3g tool calling it... but when you've got no NTFS mounts, that doesn't make sense... and the fact you get the help showing suggests a script is calling ntfscluster with the wrong arguments
[19:09] <daftykins> Caerdwyn: paste.ubuntu.com :)
[19:10] <Caerdwyn> daftykins: I did it just to prove there was really nothing, rather then showing an empty pastebin :P
[19:10] <daftykins> the pastebin wouldn't be empty, it'd show exactly that! with less wasted blackspace i might add...
[19:10] <Programmer_> anyone run google chrome?
[19:10] <Caerdwyn> daftykins: yeah, yeah, I know...
[19:11] <tyler_d> Programmer_, yes
[19:11] <Programmer_> you having issues with it tyler_d?
[19:11] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: That's what I would have thought too, but like you've seen so far, nothing either of us has searched for, script-wise, has turned up anything related to ntfscluster, or any type of command that is trying to call it :\
[19:12] <tyler_d> Programmer_, be more specific please
[19:12] <Programmer_> getting a "your profile could not be opened correctly" error every time you open chrome
[19:12] <Jetien> i'm trying to switch lightdm->gdm . If i don't come back that means it fixed my problems
[19:12] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: which was why I asked earlier, was there a way to have a debug/verbose output on shutdown, showing each command used to kill/unmount/un-whatever the applications that have to shutdown before the machine either turns off, or reboots.
[19:13] <tyler_d> Programmer_, nope. sounds like you should move your profile and open it again sir.
[19:13] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: I have an idea... although your previous attempts to replace /bin/ntfscluster suggest it won't help. replace it with a script that simply writes out its command line and parent process id and that process's info too
[19:13] <Caerdwyn> Seeing "*Asking remaining processes to terminate" tells me practically nothing, other then the fact that is a pre-written statement in one of the shutdown scripts. It doesn't actually /tell/ you what is going on, what applications could be hanging, causing the error, nothing.
[19:14] <Programmer_> ok
[19:14] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: The upstart init program handles this and there's no way to ask it to be more verbose, that I am aware of
[19:14] <tyler_d> Programmer_, something like this I can only assume --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/32706/profile-error-when-launching-google-chrome
[19:15] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: oh, that just sucks... I would've thought having something blurt out debug messages about the shutdown in the same manner that you can have a verbose boot would be a "thing" :|
[19:15] <Programmer_> ok
[19:16] <Guest23348> somebody use lirc on ubuntu
[19:16] <zykotick9> !anyone | Guest23348
[19:19] <Guest23348> i need help for configure lirc on ubuntu
[19:20] <nikolam> I figured out why I was always disgusted when ever starting software center in ubuntu/xubuntu. It is the thing that I can not make it display ONLY Free software applications...
[19:20] <Rory> Guest23348: You can set a more friendly nickname with the "/nick" command - for example to change my name to Rory I typed "/nick Rory" (without the quotes)
[19:20] <Rory> Guest23348: You should describe what you're trying to achieve, and what problems you're having when you try to do it
[19:20] <nikolam> An yes, license: "Open source" is not informative at all.
[19:20] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Another try: "   OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=":"; for d in $PATH; do sudo grep -l ntfscluster $(readlink -e $d)/* 2>/dev/null; done; IFS=$OLDIFS    "
[19:21] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: The only output I'd expect is "/bin/ntfscluster"
[19:21] <zykotick9> nikolam: if you want only free software, perhaps you're using the wrong distro...
[19:21] <nikolam> zykotick9, no. you are wrong
[19:22] <Caerdwyn> Nope TJ-, there was 4. /sbin/killall5, /bin/ntfscluster, /bin/ntfscluster.bak (my backup), and /bin/pidof
[19:22] <hochbanane> help
[19:22] <Rory> nikolam: Does Synaptic provide that functionality? I think you can organise by repository, and Ubuntu's repositories are somewhat organised by licence
[19:22] <hochbanane> dpkg: Warnung: Parsen der Datei »/var/lib/dpkg/status«, nahe Zeile 10044 Paket »libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager«:
[19:22] <hochbanane>  Feld »Depends«, Referenz auf »libc6«:
[19:22] <hochbanane>  implizite exakte Übereinstimmung mit Versionsnummer, vielleicht stattdessen »=« benutzen
[19:22] <hochbanane> dpkg: Warnung: Parsen der Datei »/var/lib/dpkg/status«, nahe Zeile 10044 Paket »libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager«:
[19:22] <hochbanane>  Feld »Depends«, Referenz auf »libc6«:
[19:22] <hochbanane>  Wert für Version beginnt mit nicht-alphanumerischem Zeichen, vielleicht ein Leerzeichen hinzufügen
[19:22] <hochbanane> dpkg: Fehler: Parsen der Datei »/var/lib/dpkg/status«, nahe Zeile 10044 Paket »libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager«:
[19:22] <hochbanane>  Feld »Depends«, Referenz auf »libc6«: Version enthält » «
[19:22] <hochbanane> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[19:22] <OerHeks> nikolam, i use synaptic to avoid thos paid apps
[19:22] <Caerdwyn> holy hell o.o
[19:22] <Caerdwyn> !pastebinit | hochbanane
[19:22] <Rory> nikolam: Ubuntu includes non-free software. Also you're not really asking a support question, more just joining and ranting, which is highly encouraged in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:22] <nikolam> yes, but unfortunately, software center could be something better Rory , but yes, I use synaptic. Software center was disgusting from day1
[19:23] <Rory> nikolam: Cool, everyone wins =)
[19:23] <nikolam> Rory, well, it includes non-free if you want to install it. Ubuntu is Not the mix of open source/closed source. people tend to install closed source, but ut is saying more about people then Ubuntu.
[19:24] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: OK, now I'm suspicious
[19:24] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: about what?
[19:24] <nikolam> Also if i want especially to see what I can purchase and select to see just that, I see unhealthy list...
[19:25] <OerHeks> nikolam, do you have a real support issue?
[19:25] <nikolam> So it feels unhealthy in general to mix spywar (closed source) apps that you sell, with free software (and not "open source")
[19:25] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: About why those files mention ntfscluster. Can you "strings /sbin/killall5 /bin/pidof | pastebinit"
[19:26] <Caerdwyn> TJ-:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910866/
[19:26] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: line 132, ntfscluster.c
[19:26] <Rory> !fud | nikolam #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:26] <Caerdwyn> and 142 it seems
[19:26] <nikolam> OerHeks, I report general affect to users from the day one of software center. I also report that Program License is NOT displayed in software center, before installing applications and that goes against terms and services of applications.
[19:26] <Pici> nikolam: then file a bug
[19:27] <nikolam> I report a bug (RFE) that "open source" is not valid license for displaying apps in software center.
[19:27] <nikolam> Ok Pici
[19:27] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: And *there* is the issue!
[19:27] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: you say that, yet I have no clue what you're talking about... What part of this is the issue?
[19:28] <Rory> nikolam: That's the sort of thing that it would be good to discuss on this mailing list maybe https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[19:28] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Those strings outputs... you've managed to replace "/sbin/killall5" and "/bin/pidof" with (the contents of) "/bin/ntfscluster"
[19:28] <VlanX> can I read anywhere the logs for my tftp transfers with /etc/xinetd.d/tftp ?
[19:28] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: I honestly have no clue how, since I've never modified those files, nor even been /in/ the directories those are contained in
[19:29] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Let's try a reinstall of those packages: "sudo apt-get --reinstall sysvinit-utils"
[19:29] <nikolam> ok Rory
[19:29] <John_John_> how to install mono in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[19:29] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[19:29] <OerHeks> nikolam, license, it is displayed > http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-NQwsIQLj.1392060573.png
[19:30] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: sorry, yes
[19:30] <Rory> John_John_: Are you wanting to develop Mono applications, or just run an application that needs mono? What application are you trying to run?
[19:30] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: it's ok, it's reinstalled, saying "ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot". Is this a good thing?
[19:30] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: That explains why, with ntfs-3g package installed, you saw the ntfscluster help and when the package was uninstalled you got a shared-library missing error
[19:30] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: That is fine
[19:31] <John_John_> Rory: first of all thanks for trying to help cause i am very serious about it
[19:31] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: awesome... Let me reboot and see if this all disappears... brb
[19:31] <nikolam> OerHeks, NO it is not displayed. "open source" is not the license. You are wrong.
[19:31] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Now, when you run "strings /sbin/killal5 /bin/pidof | grep ntfs" you shouldn't get any output
[19:31] <John_John_> my need is to run asp.net 4.0 applications
[19:31] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Now, when you run "strings /sbin/killall5 /bin/pidof | grep ntfs" you shouldn't get any output
[19:32] <Pici> OerHeks: nikolam means it should display "GPL v2" or "MIT" or whatever
[19:32] <John_John_> i have no problem to develop in windows(mono) if that's better.
[19:32] <nikolam> Pici, yes and with link to actually reading license before installing. And that also goes for closed applications.
[19:32] <John_John_> so to recap: only asp.net. and 4.0 is a must.
[19:33] <nikolam> but it is best to report bug/rfe and discuss on mailing list, anyways
[19:33] <John_John_> and to run in linux preferably ubuntu but not a must
[19:33] <OerHeks> Pici, i see, that may be a valid point to do a bugreport
[19:34] <OerHeks> nikolam, if you do, i would love to confirm this bug, it will speed up
[19:34] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: I've got to say, you sir are a life saver. It worked just as expected. Thank you SO much for all your help, I really appreciate it! :)
[19:34] <John_John_> Rory: are you still there ?
[19:34] <Caerdwyn> You too, tyler_d :)
[19:34] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: The question is, how did that happen? The only way I can think...
[19:34] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: Honestly, I have no clue.
[19:35] <nikolam> OK OerHeks  but would also generate a lot of work to link it all to present apps et.
[19:35] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: ... is that there was a file-system error at some point and somehow the same inodes (belonging to "/bin/ntfscluster") were used for "/sbin/killall5" and "/bin/pidof"
[19:35] <Rory> John_John_: Sorry, yes
[19:35] <John_John_> Rory: it's ok did you hear what i asked ?
[19:35] <Rory> John_John_: You should just install the package "mono-complete"
[19:36] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: If so, that raises the potential that other files are similarly affected but much harder to detect
[19:36] <OerHeks> nikolam, i think all you need is to mention 3 apps, to prove your point, as what i would do.
[19:36] <Rory> John_John_: I'm pretty sure that includes Mono 2.10.something
[19:36] <nikolam> ok OerHeks
[19:36] <John_John_> Rory: ok but from google i saw that it includes version 2.10.
[19:37] <John_John_> Rory: that's right. but now there is version 3.2 i think
[19:37] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: ok, so what should I do about this? Schedule the machine to run an fsck on the next reboot to check and make sure everything is in tact? If not, how would I go about fixing this?
[19:37] <John_John_> Rory: does 2.10 support asp.net 4.0 ?
[19:37] <John_John_> Rory: i need that information badly
[19:37] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: I don't know of a command like windows' "sfc /scannow" that checks and repairs corrupted system files...
[19:39] <Rory> John_John_: Do you have 64-bit Ubuntu? If so, there's a third-party PPA here which has a number of upvotes on StackOverflow, which provides a version of Mono 3.2. Only Mono 3.0 and up supports asp.net 4.x. The link is here http://stackoverflow.com/a/13384233/736253
[19:39] <Rory> !ppa | John_John_
[19:39] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Try this, don't worry about "No such ..." messages, but you should only see "/bin/ntfscluster" ... "sudo find / -type f -samefile /bin/ntfscluster"
[19:39] <fla_> hello. lap_1 connects to ext_display and shows good colors on lap_1_display BUT lacks red color on ext_display. lap_2 shows good colors on both displays (lap_2_display and ext_display). so is it possible that hardware on lap_1 can send color red to lap_1_display but not ext_display? if not, how can i fix software color issue? thanks! :)
[19:40] <Rory> fla_: Is it possible the port on lap_1 is faulty?
[19:40] <Rory> fla_: It's more likely than a weird software issue
[19:40] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: yes, very first line is "/bin/ntfscluster", but now it mounted and is scanning my 2tb and 500gb external hard disks...oh god, this'll take forever
[19:40] <LumberJackTeam> what fs ?
[19:41] <genii> fla_: You used the same cable both times on ext_display ?
[19:41] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: It shouldn't automount anything that isn't already mounted. You can break out (Ctrl+C) and unmount those first
[19:41] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: errr, not automount, rather, it's scanning all mounted drives (apparently this machine is automounting all connected devices on boot)
[19:42] <LumberJackTeam> btrf doesn't need fsck
[19:42] <LumberJackTeam> ntfs?
[19:42] <rogerio> alguém sabe como fazer funcionar o impressora epson l355 no ubuntu 13.10?
[19:42] <fla_> Rory: ok, so maybe the VGA port itself isn't working on pin 3 for example?
[19:43] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: Yes... You can break out (Ctrl+C) and then do "sudo umount /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdb1" and then re-run the command
[19:43] <genii> !es | rogerio
[19:43] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: It finished. Very first result was /bin/ntfscluster, then 5 "No such file or directory" lines, so it appears all is well...
[19:43] <fla_> i wonder if i can switch VGA port from lap_2 to lap_1?
[19:43] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: The file-systems are automounted by your log-in process when the USB devices are detected - you can tell by the fact they are mounted to directories under "/media/edward/"
[19:44]  * Caerdwyn nods
[19:44] <Caerdwyn> Yep, they're all there.
[19:44] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: OK, looks like you may be OK. If you get any other unexpected file-system related issues, I'd suggest the cause is previous file-system corruption. Reinstalling affected packages should sort it out.
[19:44] <LumberJackTeam> me frowns at automount
[19:45] <Caerdwyn> TJ-: Awesome! Thank you again for everything :)
[19:45] <TJ-> Caerdwyn: You're welcome; it was a very *interesting* scenario!
[19:45] <Caerdwyn> ..yes, it was :P
[19:46] <Rory> fla_: Exactly. If you have another external monitor to try, you could tell straight away
[19:46] <LumberJackTeam> #ubuntu the land of make belive
[19:46] <TJ-> !ot | LumberJackTeam
[19:47] <LumberJackTeam> are there any gpt related tools?
[19:48] <OerHeks> gdisk
[19:48] <TJ-> LumberJackTeam: "apt-cache search gpt"
[19:50] <c4iff> Trying to install Adobe via the instructions listed here http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/ubuntu-13-10-quick-tip-install-adobe-reader/,  still getting an error regarding libstdc++ being 64 bit though
[19:51] <LumberJackTeam> who still uses adobe reader?
[19:51] <LumberJackTeam> ff now supports pdf
[19:52] <c4iff> LumberJackTeam: I have a specific requirement to use Adobe
[19:52] <fla_> Rory: sadly i have identical laptops (with different hardware components non-functional on each) but one ext_display. so here's another question, under SystemSettings > Color, is there anything i can do there to diagnose and/or remedy?
[19:53] <FiremanEd> LumberJackTeam: Be helpful, not critical :)
[19:54] <Rory> fla_: I wouldn't really know where to start diagnosing a software issue
[19:54] <davidfetter_disq> hello
[19:54] <davidfetter_disq> has anybody got tips on how to run multiple slony (logical replication system for PostgreSQL) clusters from one machine?
[19:55] <davidfetter_disq> there's already some very nice wrappers for multiple instances of PostgreSQL itself. i was wondering whether there's something analogous to this for that replication system
[19:56] <FiremanEd> c4iff: Did you check to see if it was in the repositories yet, that article was from September of last year
[19:58] <fla_> Rory: ok, well thanks for VGA port idea and if you know how to patch a BIOS so it accepts a new wireless card on POST, let me know. thanks again
[19:58] <Pici> davidfetter_disq: You might want to ask in #postgresql as well, if you dont get any answer here.
[19:59] <davidfetter_disq> Pici, this is a pretty distro-specific thing, and i'm a regular over there :)
[19:59] <joshtekmobile> Why would screen randomly close out?
[19:59] <klomp> trying to follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:59] <klomp> my settings don't match the Virtual Hosts section
[20:00] <klomp> By default, there is one site available called 000-default. FALSE
[20:00] <vill> bonsoir
[20:01] <Pici> davidfetter_disq: you might want #ubuntu-server then too :)
[20:01] <iamgiri>  /msg NickServ identify 986559361
[20:01] <klomp> the default: sites-available/default
[20:02] <klomp> the site-enabled are 000-default
[20:02] <zykotick9> iamgiri: time to change your password
[20:02] <iamgiri> zykotick9: yes
[20:02] <genii> iamgiri: and possibly change your phone number
[20:02] <iamgiri> genii: :(
[20:08] <iamgiri> Hey guys my ubuntu 12.04 freezes often,  I can move my mouse. My keyboard not working too. I'm having this headache for more than 5 months. Can someone he me to overcome this issue? I have to restart my PC for each freeze
[20:08] <iamgiri> Typo: I can't move my mouse
[20:10] <natural> micro emergency, i disabled work spaces in my unity-tweak, and i lost everything on my desktop. can someone please help me out?
[20:11] <darthanubis> natural, you should not have lost everything from that action alone.
[20:12] <natural> i was trying to get hotcorners to work, and the last thing i did was disable workspaces then renable it but everything went away, all i have is right click, and termina from cntrl alt 't' thats how i got here.
[20:13] <natural> do you know how to run ubuntu-tweak from terminal?
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> natural: [ ubuntu-tweak ]
[20:13] <natural> with the brackets?
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> No
[20:13] <natural> command not found
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> (The [ ] are just indicative of the fact that it's in terminal)
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> natural: Did you install it?
[20:14] <Seveas> natural: open /home/YOURLOGIN/Desktop in the file browser. Your files should still be there :)
[20:14] <natural> thanks
[20:14] <Seveas> isn't it unity-tweak or unity-tweak-tool?
[20:15] <Seveas> or just type 'u' (no quotes) and us <tab> to tab complete :)
[20:15] <natural> when i minimize the terminal window, it disappears, and i dont know how to get it back. my unity bar is gone too.
[20:15] <roasted_> Question - I removed the icon in my Unity launcher for external drives. How do I get them back?
[20:16] <natural> no tab complete
[20:17] <Zooklubba> Ubuntu + Huawei E398 == failure? I cant get network-manager to show me the mobile broadband option
[20:17] <natural> so no way to just get my desktop back?
[20:18] <mikehaas763> Hi, this isn't ubuntu or even linux specific but #opensource only has 15 people in it. I figured this is probably a good place. Is there any generic forms out there that can be used in a business to make requests to the business to release a library to open source? We're trying to come up with a standard operating procedure
[20:19] <chemist^> natural, just get your desktop back?
[20:19] <chemist^> mikehaas763, ##linux
[20:19] <mikehaas763> chemist^, good idea
[20:20] <alexxa20> I need to remove some module. I use this command: sudo modprobe -r rt2x00pci. It wont work. Fatal: Module ... is still in use.
[20:20] <alexxa20> It's for wifi
[20:20] <alexxa20> I tried turning off wifi, still cant remove module
[20:20] <Zooklubba> how the fawk do I get Huawei E398 (usb modem) to work :S
[20:21] <bekks> alexxa20: lsmod shows you which modules stull use that module in question.
[20:21] <chemist^> !details | Zooklubba
[20:21] <Zooklubba> chemist^: As in, it's not working (not showing, just like I already have written) in network manager. It's visible using lsusb
[20:22] <Zooklubba> I got usb_modeswitch on the computer, I dont have vwdial tho
[20:23] <alexxa20> so, when I find which module uses this one, what shall I do?
[20:23] <natural> chemist^, got it, watched a vid by quidsup, this guy is my fav, and i had to run ccsm and enable unity plugin, thanks
[20:23] <bekks> alexxa20: unload the modules, then unload the module in question.
[20:23] <chemist^> Zooklubba, have you tryed "making a new connection" and there choosing mobile broadband?
[20:23] <Zooklubba> yep
[20:23] <Zooklubba> so many times
[20:24] <alexxa20> unloading is done via this command: modprobe -r ?
[20:24] <chemist^> Zooklubba, is the device working on other machines?
[20:24] <bekks> alexxa20: or just rmmod
[20:24] <Zooklubba> yes
[20:24] <alexxa20> thanks
[20:25] <alexxa20> done
[20:25] <chemist^> Zooklubba, you may need to install additional drivers in order to get that device to work in ubuntu, i honestly don't know if it's supported
[20:25] <alexxa20> I'm following one instruction from launchpad (it's about fixing non-working wifi) :)
[20:25] <chemist^> you could try installing windows drivers, if you can't find linux
[20:25] <chemist^> with ndiswrapper or smth like that
[20:25] <alexxa20> so removing the module is the one middle step
[20:26] <Zooklubba> chemist^: My googlefu obviously shows that people have managed to do it with just modprobe/usb_modeswitch. so I have no clue
[20:26] <Zooklubba> I had another ZTE modem which I tried. That randomly came up in nm-applet after like 5-10 kills on modem-manager
[20:28] <JohnnyL> Lets say I wanted to distribute a linux app but my app is dependent on cgroups, how would I easily enable my user to use my app?
[20:29] <bekks> JohnnyL: You cant. cgroups depend on kernel support, too.
[20:29] <chemist^> Zooklubba, these devices can be tricky i know..
[20:30] <JohnnyL> bekks: i am leaving out <2.6
[20:30] <chemist^> Zooklubba, have little experience with them...i usually use my cell phone if i want to make a mobile-internet connection on my laptop
[20:30] <Zooklubba> chemist^: so close to just give up and move to windows. Getting quite mad at all this pieces of...
[20:30] <bekks> JohnnyL: Even then it may not be enabled in the kernel.
[20:30] <JohnnyL> og right
[20:30] <JohnnyL> oh right
[20:30] <chemist^> Zooklubba, does windows require driver installation?
[20:31] <chemist^> have you checked rfkill?
[20:31] <Zooklubba> chemist^: at least they (huawei or my carrier) ship the drivers
[20:31] <chemist^> maybe it's disabled
[20:32] <Zooklubba> chemist^: what should I do then. rfkill list doesnt show shit
[20:32] <JohnnyL> bekks, lets say cgroups can work with the kernel. how do I tell and enable my user to install it?
[20:33] <bekks> JohnnyL: The user has to have root privileges.
[20:36] <Zooklubba> chemist^ what should I do/type in w/ rfkill. idfi
[20:36] <Zooklubba> idgi
[20:38] <chemist^> Zooklubba, does lshw show the device?
[20:38] <chemist^> have you checked dmesg when you plugged in the device?
[20:38] <Xuisce_> hi all
[20:40] <uporot> Xuisce_: hi
[20:40] <Xuisce_> hey there
[20:41] <Zooklubba> chemist^: for instance dmesg says usb 3-13: GSM modem 1-port converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[20:41] <tyler_d> ohai
[20:41] <Zooklubba> cdc_ncm 3-13:1.1 wwan0 register blablabla mobile broadband network device
[20:41] <chemist^> Zooklubba, that means it's there, recognized
[20:42] <xangua> How can I encrypt my home after installing ubuntu? would encryot my home affects the performance?
[20:42] <chemist^> xangua, why would encrypted folders affect performance? i don't think so
[20:43] <Zooklubba> chemist^: running usb modeswitch it says for instance Looking for active driver... No driver found. EIther detached before or never attached.
[20:43] <Zooklubba> setting up communication with interface 0
[20:43] <xangua> chemist^: how could I encrypt my home after installing ubuntu if I did not choopse the option during install then¿
[20:44] <Xuisce_> hm
[20:44] <Xuisce_> hi
[20:44] <xangua> chemist^: And I mean performance regarding battery life on a notebook
[20:44] <chemist^> xangua, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1449168
[20:45] <bs0d> Hello. I am trying to run a script from the /etc/rc.local, but it does not get started before login.
[20:45] <bs0d> It does not get started at all
[20:45] <bs0d> I would appreciate if comeone could point me to what am I missing
[20:45] <bekks> bs0d: How did you enter it in rc.local?
[20:46] <bs0d> bekks: it was suggested on a forum http://askubuntu.com/questions/9382/how-can-i-configure-a-service-to-run-at-startup/9384#9384
[20:46] <TJ-> bs0d: Ensure the command is *before* the final "exit 0" command in "/etc/rc.local"
[20:47] <Blueer> i've installed the newest amd beta display driver (14.1). the ubuntu loginscreen looks 100% ok, but when i login it shows only the desktop+mouse. it don't shows the taskbar, menus and so on.
[20:47] <Blueer> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[20:47] <Blueer> this doesn'T helps. but the unity plugin and all other plugins are not loaded
[20:48] <Blueer> if i load the unity plugin within the ccsm and all req. plugins it doesn't change anythink.
[20:49] <bs0d> hmmm same
[20:49] <compdoc> Blueer, thats usually a sign its broken. can you disable the driver?
[20:49] <bs0d> may it be because my script contains header #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh?
[20:51] <TJ-> bs0d: The header won't matter if you call the script with "sh /path/to/script" *but* if the script uses bash-specific syntax then it will likely fail to work from sh.
[20:52] <bs0d> TJ-: yes, I am correcting it right now
[20:53] <Zooklubba> chemist^: syslog shows me failed to organize modem ports (0) Failed to find primary port
[20:53] <Zooklubba> for modem-manager
[20:54] <g0twig> hey there
[20:55] <g0twig> I did read this
[20:55] <g0twig> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU5OTQ
[20:55] <g0twig> What are "ubuntu developers"?
[20:55] <g0twig> I am/was an Ubuntu developer, I have an official Ubuntu Mail Adress, and I am Ubuntu Member
[20:56] <Pici> g0twig: reply to the mailing list and ask them.
[21:00] <bs0d> TJ-: I have corrected the script so that it is run with sh, but it still does not get executed at all. I expect it to run before login actually.
[21:01] <bekks> bs0d: USe /bin/sh in rc.local, not just sh
[21:01] <bs0d> bekks: Oh, you forsee my mistakes. Thanks for the hint!
[21:02] <bs0d> bekks: I was really missing /bin/sh
[21:05] <bs0d> still no luck :(
[21:05] <Xuisce_> hi bs0d
[21:06] <TJ-> bs0d: How do you know the script isn't executed? Is it stamping a file when it runs so you know? e.g. 2nd line "touch /tmp/i-have-run"  ?
[21:06] <Exp0sure> what the problem?
[21:07] <lickalott> bs0d, what are you trying to accomplish?
[21:07] <TJ-> bs0d: most rc.local script issues are caused by expecting certain environment variables to exist, that don't
[21:07] <bs0d> TJ-: it asks for user input. And I supposed that it should wait for it, but the system boots into graphical interface and I get no script output
[21:08] <ImTheDoctorWho> o-hai!
[21:08] <ImTheDoctorWho> i have some problems with ubuntu
[21:08] <ImTheDoctorWho> can anyone help me?
[21:08] <bs0d> lickalott: I want to ask the user to provide input once before the login prompt. The script asks for user input but does not get executed by rc.local for some reason
[21:09] <GivenToCode> hi all i am in unchartered waters, i am trying to remote desktop to an ubuntu 12.04 host running vncserver via remmina
[21:09] <GivenToCode> I am able to connect but i am not able to start a bash shell
[21:09] <ImTheDoctorWho> Qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[21:09] <GivenToCode> i can start other applications like the clock, but selected bash, dash or sh does nothing
[21:09] <compdoc> not sure what remmina is, but what about other vnc clients?
[21:10] <ImTheDoctorWho> J #ubuntu-it
[21:11] <GivenToCode> compdoc, havent tried any, but itd be surprising if it were the client
[21:11] <GivenToCode> i can basically run every application except for bash
[21:12] <ImTheDoctorWho> Why i can't format the removable device?
[21:12] <compdoc> GivenToCode, the /etc/passwd file defines if a user has bash or just what shell is assigned. but its dangerous to edit
[21:13] <GivenToCode> compdoc, i am root and shell is defined as /bin/bash
[21:13] <compdoc> GivenToCode, theres a special vi command to edit the file that helps keep you out of trouble
[21:13] <iattazza> hello
[21:13] <Voyage> postgres@sync-pc:/home/syncsys$ psql postgres < '/tmp/crawler-full.sql'
[21:13] <Voyage> bash: /tmp/crawler-full.sql: Permission denied
[21:13] <compdoc> you enabled root?
[21:13] <compdoc> gave it a password, I mean
[21:13] <Voyage> sory?
[21:13] <GivenToCode> compdoc, i am root yes
[21:22] <lickalott> bs0d, so you want it to be a "startup" script?
[21:23] <lickalott> throw it in /etc/init.d and softlink it (with +x permissions) to /etc/rc2.d
[21:24] <Xuisce_> hi lickalott
[21:24] <lickalott> compdoc, remmina is the built-in RDP/SSH/VNC client in ubuntu.
[21:25] <compdoc> lickalott, ah. I always connect to ubuntu, but rarely connect from it
[21:25] <Xuisce_> hi
[21:25] <lickalott> GivenToCode,  explain your issue in greater detail please.  All's I got was that you can successfully log into/onto the ubuntu rig via VNC.  Where is the bash shell not "starting" on your host machine or your VNC machien?
[21:25] <lickalott> hello Xuisce_
[21:26] <TJ-> bs0d: You can't take user input from rc.local unless you "plymouth quit" first, as plymouth has the console
[21:26] <lickalott> I used to be big on putty, but since I found remmina, I've been using that.
[21:27] <lickalott> whats your "end game" bs0d  maybe we can come up with better options for you
[21:28] <bootyboots> hi my laptop can connect to my router wirelessly fine, but not to the internet and i'm not sure why
[21:28] <bootyboots> other devices in my house can connect to internet wirelessly no problem however not this one
[21:29] <TJ-> GivenToCode: I'd suspect a syntax error in one of the log-in scripts (/etc/profile, ~/.profile, etc.)
[21:29] <bootyboots> i have a small paste bin of the problem http://pastebin.ca/2638225
[21:29] <lickalott> bootyboots, take your router of out the mix and see what the result is.
[21:29] <VampireCat> bootyboots?
[21:29] <compdoc> bootyboots, make sure you define a gateway and a dns server
[21:29] <hdon> hi all :) an application changed my video mode and did not change it back when i exited. is there a simple command to adjust my display mode?
[21:30] <VampireCat> What?
[21:30] <Ubuntu_User> I am trying to install Ubuntu on Toshiba Satellite laptop. Ubuntu live USB doesn't boot with secure boot disabled but boots when it is enabled.
[21:30] <Ubuntu_User> Is there any reason why it does that?
[21:30] <lickalott> hdon,   settings > displays > then change the resolution
[21:31] <hdon> lickalott, thanks... i wish there were a simpler way though!
[21:31] <GivenToCode> TJ-, lickalott yea I think it's all new to me. Basically when i connect with remmina i get a gui, if i right click i get a menu, from that menu i can select applications, from that menu i can select shells, with a list of bash, dash or sh
[21:31] <GivenToCode> if i click on any of them, nothing happens
[21:31] <bootyboots> compdoc, the router handles dhcp and i think that is supposed to assign the devices it (it must for the working devices)?  would this be a router change or on my laptop
[21:31] <GivenToCode> and i can see no new processes are started
[21:31] <TJ-> bootyboots: can you "ping -nc 5 8.8.8.8" ?
[21:31] <compdoc> bootyboots, yes, it should with dhcp, but it is a setting that can get messed uo
[21:31] <compdoc> up
[21:32] <bootyboots> TJ-, yes that works, however i cannot ping other sites like google or anything else
[21:32] <TJ-> bootyboots: OK, your problem is with the DNS resolver then
[21:32] <lickalott> that's the google dns servers bootyboots
[21:32] <compdoc> bootyboots, can you ping 74.125.192.105
[21:32] <TJ-> bootyboots: "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[21:32] <bastol> hey gang. - got me a confusion - i am not used to mounting/handingling drives/partitions on linux without gparted.. and want to learn the console commands and understanding what i am looking at.. anyone want to  help me out in a pvt chat ?
[21:32] <compdoc> 74.125.192.105 is google
[21:33] <aspire_> bastol: i learned that on the archlinux beginners guide
[21:33] <bs0d> lickalott: to create a script in init.d is the only option? Why it will not work from rc.local?
[21:33] <bastol> it looks like i have a lvm but no lvm tools - fresh install of ubuntu server
[21:33] <lickalott> GivenToCode, try using the actual VNC app for ubuntu and see if anything changes.  I like remmina, but I've had some issues with funtionality in the past.
[21:33] <aspire_> theres a section where u partitionate the hd
[21:33] <TJ-> bs0d: You can't take user input from rc.local unless you "plymouth quit" first, as plymouth has the console
[21:33] <lickalott> not the only option bs0d but one that I can attest to working
[21:34] <lickalott> bastol, sudo apt-get install lvm2
[21:34] <bastol> aspire  i just need some confirmations.
[21:34] <bs0d> let me give it a try
[21:34] <bastol> i am nervous about messing with partitions on  a running system
[21:34] <bs0d> could you please provide some good example of a script inside init.d?
[21:34] <hdon> lickalott, i used xrandr -size 0 and it gave me exactly what i wanted :)
[21:34] <bastol> lickalot - but i dont think i need lvm i jsut ahve a partition lablelld lvm -  i dont think its being used
[21:35] <bootyboots> TJ-, you're the man thanks the nameserver line was incorrect (???) so i changed it to my router and it works
[21:35] <bootyboots> however i'm curious why it wasnt handled at dhcp time
[21:35] <bootyboots> compdoc, yes it works now
[21:35] <lickalott> bastol, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3596/what-is-lvm-and-what-is-it-used-for
[21:36] <lickalott> nice hdon
[21:36] <bastol> lickalott  yes i have used google .
[21:36] <lickalott> i don't understand your question/issue.
[21:37] <TJ-> bootyboots: "/etc/resolv.conf" usually points to "127.0.1.1" which has an instance of dnsmasq running in it. If dnsmasq wasn't running that'd cause a problem :)
[21:37] <bastol> pm me. and i will give the captures to clarify .. it will be quick i promise
[21:37] <TJ-> !pm | bastol
[21:38] <bastol> $ sudo parted -l Model: ATA ST380815AS (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos  Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags  1      1049kB  256MB   255MB   primary   ext4            boot  2      257MB   80.0GB  79.7GB  extended  5      257MB   46.5GB  46.2GB  logical                   lvm  6      46.5GB  76.8GB  30.3GB  logical   ext4  7      76.8GB  80.0GB  3183
[21:39] <TJ-> !pastebin | bastol
[21:40] <bastol> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911499/
[21:40] <bgardner> I think bastol is trying to find fdisk or cfdisk, based on the questions asked, although I may be wrong.
[21:40] <lickalott> bs0d, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911489
[21:41] <lickalott> bastol, you want your 46GB back?
[21:41] <Dream> If I am installing Ubuntu server with a raid controller, should I use lvm as well?
[21:41] <bootyboots> that is good info TJ- thanks.  I'm not sure how dnsmasq works from there
[21:42] <bootyboots> though
[21:42] <bs0d> lickalott: As far as I can see there are services in /etc/init.d which get started and stopped. But I need to run my script unconditionally only once after bootup and the script runs and exists immediately.
[21:42] <bs0d> lickalott: is this the right place to store my script?
[21:42] <dveim> can i write in crontab smth like @reboot opera to start it every reboot?
[21:42] <dveim> somehow it doesn't work
[21:42] <bastol> lets try that agian  - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911508/   so i try to use lvm commands and its not installed . so how can i have an lvm  from a clean install of ubuntu 13.10  - my intention is to mount the 3TB as /data  and extend swap to double. - and add the spare  space on sda5 to be used for the web server
[21:43] <bastol> and i knwo little about mounting but am rusty and dont want to fark it up ..
[21:43] <lickalott> you can dump it into rc2.d directly.  I usually write in start, stop and restart cases in my scripts so i leave them in init.d
[21:43] <TJ-> bootyboots: If the interfaces are managed by Network Manager, it has a private instance running that receives the DHCP options when the interface comes up, including the upstream nameserver list
[21:43] <lickalott> you chose lvm on install bastol
[21:43] <lickalott> if this is a fresh install and you don't want lvm, the easiest thing to do would be reinstall with "standard partitions"
[21:43] <bastol> yes . it was a default. - which is why i am confused no lvm tools are installed and  where that space is mounted
[21:44] <JohnnyL> do many linux users have cgroups support 'baked' in?
[21:44] <Dream> Could someone help me out please? Just a quick question
[21:44] <lickalott> LVM is just a large volume manager.  to modify or create other LVM volumes (i.e. you add a new disk) you'll need the lvm2 package
[21:44] <lickalott> Dream, just ask
[21:44] <Dream> I did
[21:44] <Dream> No one noticed
[21:44] <bootyboots> wow, i'm glad people like you are in here TJ- LOL
[21:44] <lickalott> lol
[21:44] <lickalott> where
[21:44] <bootyboots> thanks again
[21:45] <lickalott> oh
[21:45] <Dream> I'm installing on a server with a raid controller
[21:45] <bootyboots> adding you to my fav list for freenode
[21:45] <Dream> Trying to figure out if I need lvm or not
[21:45] <bastol> so its the partition marked LVM actually in use somewhere  ?  i mean this is a sanity check
[21:45] <lickalott> personal preference imho Dream .  Do you plan on adding more drives later
[21:46] <TJ-> Dream: If you want flexibility, ability to create snapshots for back-up, need for creating/shrinking/extending file-systems: YES
[21:46] <Dream> No, its a raid 5 in full use.
[21:46] <YellowGTO> Hey guys having a little trouble with samba. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipor3iv6mfwxm6g/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.45.38.png
[21:46] <YellowGTO> Config https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwdif72coy86wrc/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.46.01.png
[21:46] <lickalott> bastol, by "in use" you mean used by the filesystem?
[21:46] <bastol> lickalott as in space  that is accessable under the current config
[21:46] <Dream> So essentially it's a LAMP server running server edition ubuntu
[21:47] <Dream> Does lvm manage virtual file space?
[21:47] <lickalott> you could use it.  I personally would rather have that 46 GB allocated to a larger chunk for file storage and stuff but that's me
[21:47] <gordonjcp> Dream: no
[21:47] <gordonjcp> Dream: you know how you can set up logical partitions to have more than four partitions on a disk?
[21:47] <bastol> lickalott - so its not actually being used now its more like 'reserved' for a lvm ?
[21:47] <lickalott> true
[21:47] <TJ-> bastol: try "sudo pvs /dev/sda5" .. you'd expect something like "  /dev/sda5 <VG_NAME> lvm2 a--  25.29g 16.29g"
[21:48] <Dream> yeah
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Dream: LVM is kind of like that, except you can create partitions any time you like, and even resize them
[21:48] <ice9> Cinnamon desktop always crashes!
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Dream: you create one hoofing great partition and make that be all LVM
[21:48] <gordonjcp> Dream: then within that you carve up logical volumes
[21:48] <bastol> sudo: pvs: command not found
[21:48] <lickalott> you know how with windows 7 they introduced the new partition magic equivilent? bastol, Dream ?
[21:48] <TJ-> bastol: you were told earlier, you need to install the package "sudo apt-get install lvm2"
[21:48] <lickalott> that's basically LVM
[21:48] <Dream> Ok, that makes sense. Wheras without LVM I would have to use something like g parted on the virtual disk
[21:49] <gordonjcp> Dream: these then have a path like /dev/bigstackofvolumes/mp3s, /dev/bigstackofvolumes/piratedvideos etc etc
[21:49] <bastol> tj-  yes but if i odnt need it then why shoudl i install it .
[21:49] <gordonjcp> whatever you've got in the Volume Group called "bigstackofvolumes"
[21:49] <bastol> tj - i am tryign to first determin if its neccisary /
[21:50] <TJ-> bastol: You've got a partition apparently with an LVM structure inside, you need the tools to check that!
[21:50] <Dream> So when I set up my LAMP stack I would just need to point it to the path /dev/volumex/www
[21:50] <TJ-> bastol: the partition may just be marked as an LVM type. You could try "sudo blkid /dev/sda5" that should show if an LVM structure is recognised
[21:50] <bastol> tj - but if its tehre then i would have to have the tools for the os to read it already wouldnt i or it couldnt be mounted/ used.... if it snot used then i can repartition that section and  use it without an lvm ?
[21:51] <ice9> Cinnamon desktop always crashes on Ubuntu when opening any popup menu like the main menu
[21:51] <bastol> tj - sudo blkid command nets no results/information
[21:53] <jhutchins> gordonjcp: Of course, you can create partitions any time you like, and resize them without LVM, it just takes fewer steps.
[21:57] <bastol> ping/ did my net crap out or did suddenly everyone die ?
[21:57] <Pici> bastol: the latter
[21:58] <bastol> ahh  okay so its not jsut me  :P
[21:58] <Pici> los angeles /70
[21:58] <Pici> oops
[21:59] <she_dyed> aHA so you're the guy controlling the weather
[21:59] <lickalott> bastol, sudo blkid
[21:59] <lickalott> leave out the /sda
[21:59] <TJ-> bastol: Then it is likely the partition was simply given the lvm type, but not assigned as a physical volume by lvm
[22:00] <bastol> sda5 is not listed with sudo blkid
[22:00] <bastol> so then i dont need lvm and i can jsut reclaim it withotu busting something...
[22:00] <lickalott> i say gparted that junk and re-assign it to another unused partition.
[22:01] <lickalott> do it bastol
[22:01] <fulanito> hi all
[22:01] <Ubuntu_User> Is there any reason why Ubuntu doesn't boot with secure boot disabled? It boots if secure boot is enabled or if i set BIOS to CSM mode.
[22:01] <fulanito> I am having troubles adding a certificate to apache
[22:01] <fulanito> in ubuntu 12.04
[22:01] <lickalott> Ubuntu_User, newer laptop?
[22:02] <fulanito> server, ubuntu user
[22:02] <fulanito> [Mon Feb 10 20:11:13 2014] [warn] Init: Name-based SSL virtual hosts only work for clients with TLS server name indication support (RFC 4366)
[22:02] <fulanito> [Mon Feb 10 20:11:13 2014] [warn] Init: Name-based SSL virtual hosts only work for clients with TLS server name indication support (RFC 4366)
[22:02] <fulanito> [Mon Feb 10 20:11:13 2014] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.22 OpenSSL/1.0.1 configured -- resuming normal operation
[22:02] <Ubuntu_User> lickalott, Yes. Toshiba Satellite. Has Windows 8 preinstalled.
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> !paste | fulanito
[22:02] <lickalott> prob something with UEFI bios
[22:02] <TJ-> fulanito: what is the problem, exactly?
[22:03] <bs0d> I guess I have made an init.d script .. hope it is ok to ask for user input from rc2 script
[22:03] <fulanito> http://pastebin.com/Ewb2S1fE
[22:03] <fulanito> I added a certificate to apache2
[22:03] <TJ-> fulanito: I don't see a problem
[22:03] <bs0d> ah .. its same .. the script didn't work
[22:03] <Ubuntu_User> lickalott, Ubuntu live cd does boot with secure boot enabled. But when I disable it fails. Which seems weird to me. On CSM mode Windows 8 boot fails.
[22:04] <fulanito> but the brosers says that no script has been added
[22:04] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: How, precisely, does it fail?
[22:04] <bs0d> lickalott: I have created a script asking for user input in /etc/init.d and created a symlink to it in /etc/rc2.d, but still the script did not work. Any ideas?
[22:04] <TJ-> fulanito: As the apache warning tells you, name-based TLS/SSL requires browsers with TLS-SNI support
[22:04] <she_dyed> isnt plymouth running at that point
[22:04] <Voyage> hi
[22:05] <Voyage> how to start a screen by giving a custom name  to and and how to resume it after wards?
[22:05] <kevinb_> Hello, how can I use upstart to ensure a script runs on shutdown that needs to post http requests to a different host runs and finishes before the network is shutdown ?
[22:05] <fulanito> how to I enable that on browsers?
[22:05] <TJ-> bs0d: As I said earlier, twice:  You can't take user input from rc.local unless you "plymouth quit" first, as plymouth has the console
[22:05] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, I get to initial loader where I can select Try or Install ubuntu. If I select either one of them. It just shows a blank screen.
[22:05] <TJ-> fulanito: You can't, either they have support, or they don't
[22:06] <bs0d> TJ-: This time I have put my script it rc2.d, not rc.local
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> fulanito: thats just a warning. If a user what has a web client that doesn't support TSL, the web server will end up serving the "default" ssl site. Not much to worry about since there's very very few web browsers that don't support TLS
[22:06] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: OK, that could be a video card mode issue. I suspect the "nomodeset" option is required on the kernel start-up line in the CD... I think on the live ISO you can press a key (F6?) to select advanced options, and add that
[22:06] <TJ-> bs0d: no difference
[22:06] <TJ-> bs0d: If plymouth has the console you can't use it
[22:07] <bs0d> TJ-: what would be the proper place for such a script? I need to invoke it before login prompt after boot. Is this at all possible?
[22:07] <fulanito> hitsujiTMO: can you try www.bluemessaging.com
[22:07] <TJ-> bs0d: I've told you several times now. "plymouth quit" then do your console input routine.
[22:08] <Voyage> how to start a GNU screen by giving a custom name  to and and how to resume it after wards?
[22:09] <bastol> okay one more question  - since google has many conflicting results  stating false positive rootkits and  then not -- whats yoru opinion  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911649/
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> fulanito: the site works. but no response from the https if thats what you want to know. have you opened the port?
[22:09] <TJ-> fulanito: If you're expecting HTTPS to work, you'll need to open port 443 in the firewall
[22:09] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, I only get the GRUB boot loader. It doesn't let me press any function keys. I can do edit the command before booting.
[22:10] <Beldar> bastol, maverick, realy?
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> Voyage: screen -S sessionname                         ctrl + a, d      to detach,     screen -r sessionname    to reattach that session
[22:10] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, what is the command line parameter? is it --nomodeset ?
[22:10] <bastol> whats wrong  with mavericks
[22:11] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: I thought the Try/Install option of the Live ISO had a hot-key for setting advanced options
[22:11] <Beldar> bastol, it is way past end of life, install 12.04 or 13.10.
[22:11] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: just "nomodeset"
[22:11] <bs0d> TJ-: Where should I invoke plymouth quit command? I tried to invoke it in the beginning of the script, but the script still did not work
[22:11] <Voyage> hitsujiTMO,  thanks!
[22:11] <TJ-> bs0d: Have you confirmed yet that your script actually gets called? Without that, the rest is pointless
[22:12] <bastol> mavericks - OSX not maverick linux
[22:12] <bs0d> TJ-: let me check it out
[22:12] <Ziber> What is wicd, exactly? All I've found is that it's an "equivalent (sometimes higher regarded) to network-manager".
[22:12] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, I get a screen similar to this http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[22:12] <bastol> beldar - used a mac to burn the iso - not a old linux flavor.
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: its a cli wireless adapter manager
[22:13] <Ziber> I'm trying to spoof my mac address at bootup. Is there a way I can do that with network-manager, since I'm more familiar with it?
[22:13] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: Is that the server install? Which ubuntu release is it?
[22:14] <romainl> */msg NickServ IDENTIFY romainl pme
[22:14] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, Desktop. Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[22:14] <bs0d> TJ-: yes, it gets invoked. I checked it by creating an empty file from the script
[22:14] <Ziber> That's like the 10th person I've seen recently fail to privately identify to Nickserv...
[22:15] <bastol> i did install 13.10 . was that not listed inteh paste ?
[22:15] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: Strange, I thought the desktop installer had a more graphical start-up than that! OK, you should be able to press 'e' on one of those options to 'e'dit it, then move the cursor to the end of the line beginning "linux..." and add " nomodeset" then press Ctrl+X (or F10) to execute it
[22:15] <bs0d> TJ-: so the issue remains that the script gets called, (and maybe it even asks for user input), but does not wait for one
[22:16] <TJ-> bs0d: OK, so the script runs but your commands fail. I'd bet it is because you're expecting the environment to contain values that it doesn't, such as relying on the PATH to be fully set, instead of calling commands by their absolute path-names
[22:16] <Ziber> Can I use /etc/network/interfaces to manage my wireless/wired connection, but network-manager to manage my VPN?
[22:16] <TJ-> Ziber: You could
[22:17] <Ziber> How might I do that?
[22:17] <bs0d> TJ-: right! I will correct this. Thanks!
[22:17] <fulanito> TJ-: many thanks\
[22:17] <fulanito> I make it works
[22:18] <TJ-> Ziber: Put the appropriate settings in the appropriate configuration locations. You'd have to manually start the VPN since NM wouldn't be able to do any automatic start based on another interface
[22:18] <TJ-> fulanito: :)
[22:18] <TJ-> fulanito: for reference, if you ever need to test TLS/SSL: "openssl s_client -connect bluemessaging.com:443"
[22:18] <Ziber> TJ-: So I have lines for wlan0 and eth0 in my network interfaces file, nm will know not to touch those?
[22:18] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, Still  pretty much the same screen. added it to the end of the line starting with linux.
[22:19] <bs0d> TJ-: if I am not mistaken, I need to provide full paths for the following commands: cat echo read exit
[22:19] <TJ-> Ziber: correct, NM will *usually* (subject to its configuration) ignore any interfaces mentioned in "interfaces"
[22:19] <TJ-> bs0d: "echo read exit" should be shell built-ins
[22:20] <TJ-> bs0d: If it isn't a PATH issue, then you need to look at what other assumptions your script makes about the environment
[22:20] <bgardner> /quit/quit
[22:20] <bgardner> >.< Sorry
[22:21] <bs0d> TJ-: but a simple script like read -p "Enter something" var should work as it does not make any assumptions at all
[22:21] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: Hmm, try editing the line again and also add "debug" and *remove* "quiet" and "splash" ... that should cause the kernel to spew lots of useful messages that indicate where the problem starts
[22:22] <bastol> so u guys think this is a false postive ? ( note isntalled 13.10 server  and  used a mac osx maverics to burn the iso ) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911649/
[22:23] <TJ-> bs0d: Yes, that  should. In the past when I've had issues like this I've added 'debug' echos to the script in between every command, so I can look at a log-file and know for sure where it is stopping
[22:23] <bs0d> TJ-: even this simple script did not ask for input nor wait for it :(
[22:24] <bs0d> TJ-: something really weird is going on
[22:25] <TJ-> bs0d: is that simple script stopping plymouth?
[22:25] <Ziber> So uh. That was weird. I now have eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces file, and went to "ifup eth0" and my computer went to fully CLI and couldn't figure out how to get my GUI back. Had to restart.
[22:26] <TJ-> bs0d: I'd add a debug line immediately before the "read" doing something like "/bin/ps -efly | /bin/grep plymouth >> /tmp/myscript.log"
[22:26] <Ziber> Anyone have experience with that?
[22:27] <TJ-> Ziber: I think I have seen/heard of that once before; never happened again so didn't dig into it
[22:27] <Ziber> Well. Just ran it again, and my GUI didn't go anywhere. That was weird.
[22:27] <jhutchins> Ziber: So did you somehow kill the DM/DE, or just switch away from it and not switch back?  Were you working in an X terminal or a console?
[22:28] <Ziber> I'm not sure... I'm currently in the console in my GUI.
[22:28] <TJ-> Ziber: I assumed it was because X was configured to listen on a TCP port and that was somehow upset by the ifup command
[22:29] <sandman13> will this theme work on Ubuntu 13.10: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Gnome+Pack?content=127826
[22:29] <YellowGTO> Hye guys im having samaba issues. Even though it seems to be configured correctly
[22:29] <YellowGTO> Config https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwdif72coy86wrc/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.46.01.png
[22:29] <YellowGTO> Error https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipor3iv6mfwxm6g/Screenshot%202014-02-10%2016.45.38.png
[22:30] <sandman13> with xfce desktop environment
[22:30] <Ziber> I have "inet eth0 inet dhcp" in my interfaces file. If I boot my computer without an ethernet cable plugged in, will it boot without trying to get it? Earlier, it was stuck at "waiting for network configuration..." and wouldn't boot.
[22:31] <TJ-> Ziber: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[22:31] <Ziber> Yes?
[22:31] <bs0d> TJ-: hmm its weird but the log file is not created at all
[22:31] <TJ-> Ziber: You wrote "inet ..."
[22:31] <Ziber> Oh, sorry. yeah. iface.
[22:31] <TJ-> bs0d: So, script *not* running then.
[22:32] <Ziber> Of course, without network-manager handling the interface, it won't disconnect when I unplug the cable. So technically it still has an IP.
[22:32] <TJ-> bs0d: move back one step; add a log line to "/etc/rc.local" just prior to your script call... make sure rc.local is being called!
[22:32] <bs0d> TJ-: this piece of code is inside /etc/rc.local .. so, rc.local is not invoked?
[22:32] <Ziber> If I do get back to a pure cli, how can I get my gui back?
[22:33] <bs0d> TJ-: I have placed this small code directly to rc.local
[22:33] <TJ-> bs0d: You're checked "/etc/rc.local" is set with eXecutable permissions?
[22:33] <bs0d> TJ-: no, I guess it should be by default. Let me check it
[22:33] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, linux /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper -- initrd /casper/initrd.lz nomodeset debug             Is that the right syntax?
[22:33] <TJ-> bs0d: Also ensure that the service is linked in for the runlevel 2 at /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local
[22:34] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: Not quite... you need to put "nomodeset debug" before "file=..."
[22:35] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: otherwise, those commands are tacked onto the separate "initrd" clause, which means they are discarded
[22:35] <rburgosnavas> hi there, i'm wifi connection issue and i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction
[22:35] <bastol> has no one else verified  if this is a false postive for rootkits ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911649/
[22:36] <rburgosnavas> right now i'm connected to the wireless network, strength is good, but dont get internet connection
[22:37] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, makes sense. I get the same blank black screen except this time the laptop fan went high for about 30 seconds and went down to normal.
[22:37] <rburgosnavas> i've looked online but i can't find a suitable answer on most forum posts
[22:37] <gutHead> on one 13.10 machine I have the pacakge evoluspencil, but ont he other 13.10 machine aptitude cannot find this package and /etc/apt/sources.list seem the same on both machines
[22:37] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: Hmmm... but no sign of any text messages at all from the kernel?
[22:38] <gutHead> can anyone tell me why the packages might appear different ont he two machines?
[22:38] <chrisbillups> Hi guys! I have a quick question. For Ubuntu Studio 13.10, will I be able to install Google Chrome 64 bit stable w/o any issues?
[22:38] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: The only thing I can think of is - aside from linux image corruption - that you're trying to start a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit only CPU
[22:38] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, no :(
[22:38] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, If I enable Secure boot, it will boot with no issues.
[22:39] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: As Mr Spock might say, "that's illogical, Captn"
[22:40] <Beldar> chrisbillups, What makes you think there will be a problem, if you are all 64 bit?
[22:40] <chrisbillups> I'm a 1st timer.
[22:40] <bs0d> TJ-: it looks like commands are not executed past "plymouth quit" call. "/bin/touch /root/test" before the call runs fine, "/bin/touch /root/test2" after the plymouth call does not create any file.
[22:40] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: OK, so SB implies UEFI boot. So do you know if the ISO installer is starting in UEFI or legacy mode ? Do you choose a firmware boot option such as "UEFI: DVD..."
[22:40] <Beldar> chrisbillups, I have not seen anyone as of now with problems lately.
[22:41] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, That's what I don't get either. Doesn't make sense at all. In theory it shouldn't boot with secure boot enabled.
[22:41] <chrisbillups> Okay, cool. Just wanted to get a 2nd opinion. I appreciate it y'all. Have a Wonderful Day! :)
[22:41] <TJ-> bs0d: OK, so it looks like plymouth doesn't respond as expected. Let's check if the way to cause it to quit has changed
[22:41] <DancesWithBeers> a
[22:41] <iamnotpression> hello, i have got a fast question,.. I want download ubuntu 14.04 alpha to help to develoment, this will be update little to little to the LTS version or I will must download the LTS later in april maybe?
[22:41] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: On the contrary, grub has a signed EFI shim loader, so it will SecureBoot
[22:42] <Beldar> !14.04 | iamnotpression
[22:42] <iamnotpression> and sry for my english, in the spain channel there aren't ppl
[22:42] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, As per Ubuntu Wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_Ubuntu_DVD_in_EFI_mode) If I get the GRUB boot loader, then it does boot in UEFI mode. I can also boot on legacy mode.
[22:43] <iamnotpression> ey, hi Phantom, nice to see you
[22:43] <Beldar> iamnotpression, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel is all.
[22:43] <iamnotpression> still play AC?
[22:43] <TJ-> bs0d: According to "man plymouth" it should be "/bin/plymouth --quit"
[22:43] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, Windows 8 will fill in legacy mode though :(. I can't get rid of windows any time soon though.
[22:43] <iamnotpression> thanks
[22:44] <cody_1> .
[22:44] <cody_1> hi
[22:45] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, I might need to burn a DVD and see if it makes a difference. Currently I am using USB to boot.
[22:45] <sandman13> can i get ubuntu 10.10 like UI for ubuntu 13.10?
[22:45] <bs0d> TJ-: I do not have man plymouth even :(
[22:45] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: Hang on, if it boots OK we know it isn't a corrupted image issue
[22:46] <TJ-> bs0d: is "/bin/plymouth" installed?
[22:46] <TJ-> bs0d: No, plymouth doesn't provide any man-pages... and yes, that's *!%^& annoying
[22:46] <bs0d> TJ-: 2 of them .. plymouth and plymouth-upstart-bridge
[22:47] <TJ-> bs0d: OK, so it is there. So try again with "/bin/plymouth --quit"
[22:47] <bs0d> TJ-: if I try to run this command when logged in just to test, will it do something bad to my system?
[22:48] <TJ-> bs0d: By that time plymouth will have been stopped anyhow; it only manages the splash screen at boot-time and shutdown
[22:48] <arcsky> "*** System restart required ***" if  i dont want to reboot, how do i remove the warning when i login to ssh?
[22:49] <TJ-> bs0d: I thought of a way you can do a boot-test without it... remove "splash" from the kernel command-line and plymouth won't be used
[22:49] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, It is getting late for me here. Is it ok If I continue this with you tomorrow? I really appreciate your help.
[22:49] <TJ-> Ubuntu_User: Try others; My brain isn't connecting the dots for you right now
[22:49] <bs0d> TJ-: /bin/plymouth --quit does the same .. not a single command run after this invocation
[22:50] <bs0d> TJ-: I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[22:50] <rburgosnavas> well, i was able to find my answer: sudo dhclient
[22:50] <TJ-> bs0d: take a look at "plymouth --help" ... I'm wondering if you could piggy-back on the --ask-for-password option to have plymouth get user input
[22:50] <gutHead> does anyoe know why an identical /etc/apt/sources.list and updated aptitude would not locate a packge on one 64bit 13.10 machine that was installed on another 64bit 13.10 machine?
[22:51] <gutHead> anyone?
[22:51] <TJ-> bs0d: Even better, there's a command "ask-question"
[22:51] <brainwash> gutHead: which package exactly?
[22:51] <Ubuntu_User> TJ-, Will do. Thank you for your pointers. It atleast it gave me some idea. Thanks a lot.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> arcsky: why do you want to remove it when its required??? sudo rm /var/run/reboot-required
[22:52] <gutHead> brainwash: evoluspencil, I think its from extras.canonical repo, but apt-cache policy doesn't seem to indicate where it is from :/
[22:54] <OerHeks> gutHead, maybe one machine has got a ppa extra, see sudo ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:55] <TJ-> gutHead: Are you sure it wasn't installed manually using dpkg -i xxxx.deb ?
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> gutHead: whats the output of: apt-cache policy evoluspencil
[22:55] <gutHead> OerHeks: hm there are quite a few more ppas on this other machine, that might be it
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> gutHead: !info evoluspencil
[22:56] <kostkon> gutHead, you got it from its site not the repos
[22:56] <gutHead> TJ-: yes, I thought I might've isntalled it from a .deb file, but couldn't find it in ~/Downloads, where I know I would've kept it
[22:57] <gutHead> kostkon: it appears with 'apt-cache show evoluspencil' though so it must be from one of these extra ppas I have collected on the other machine
[22:57] <kostkon> gutHead, what apt-cache says exactly
[22:57] <kostkon> does say*
[22:57] <gutHead> anyways, thank you guys, I don't see any clearly identifiable ppa yet, but I'm sure it is in here
[22:58] <TJ-> gutHead: You can find out maybe using "zcat /var/log/apt/history.log.*.gz | grep evoluspencil"
[22:58] <gutHead> kostkon: http://sprunge.us/HMaY
[22:58] <bekks> TJ-: zgrep
[22:59] <gutHead> TJ-: grep didn't find anything :/
[22:59] <kostkon> gutHead, you got it from here http://pencil.evolus.vn/  trust me
[22:59] <gutHead> oh, zgrep
[22:59] <gutHead> nope, zgrep produced nothing either
[22:59] <TJ-> gutHead: It appears to be in raring/main
[22:59] <gutHead> kostkon: I know of the website, I was just trying to figure out why aptitude had it one one machine but not another. .deb files don't update aptitude ... do they?
[23:00] <gutHead> TJ-: I did install it on the other machine during 13.04, so that would make sense
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> gutHead: if you installed it from a PPA then you'd have a copy of the deb in your apt-archive (unless you cleaned the cache).
[23:00] <gutHead> maybe it just cached the show data that way :/
[23:01] <TJ-> gutHead: That's not from Ubuntu, it's from "Deepin Linux"; it's in their repos
[23:01] <gutHead> hitsujiTMO: I don't recall cleaning the cache (I tend to let things pile up :( )
[23:01] <TJ-> gutHead: see http://mirror.metrocast.net/deepin/pool/main/e/evoluspencil/
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> gutHead: then have a look for it in /var/cache/apt/archives   if its not there then you installed it with dpkg -i
[23:02] <saman> salam
[23:02] <saman> hello
[23:03] <saman> how are you
[23:03] <gutHead> hitsujiTMO: either I did and I really don't rmemeber or i cleaned the archives cache and dont remember, because I don't see it in here
[23:03] <gutHead> thanks again all
[23:09] <anil> türk varmı bişey sorucam
[23:09] <k1l_> !tr | anil
[23:32] <nikolam> why udisks-daemon is using 100% cpu time (one core) and what it is doing?
[23:34] <ometzit> hi everyone, I need some help making a reinstallation of ubuntu 12.04 lts, i'm running it from a pen drive but it freezes after the second screen, download updates while installing and install third party software. How can I tell (in top) whether is working or not?
[23:37] <usr13> ometzit: Your install media is a USB thumb-drive?
[23:37] <nikolam> ctrl+alt+f1 , f2, f3 gives console
[23:37] <usr13> nikolam: Yep, that is normal.
[23:38] <usr13> nikolam: Probably f1-f6  (I just use f6)
[23:38] <ometzit> no, in the hard drive where I have an installation already but there is a huge mess with the wired and wireless connection so its easier to reinstall and update
[23:38] <nikolam> ometzit, test RAM. don't let it connect to network while installing. Try using alternate (text) install image
[23:38] <mmazing> is there a different channel for ubuntu development?
[23:39] <sprink> ubuntu-dev probably
[23:39] <sprink> nvm
[23:39] <ometzit> alternative (text) install image what do you mean?
[23:39] <sprink> ;)
[23:39] <mmazing> sprink: yeah that one is pretty empty  :)
[23:39] <tzs> on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList it says ubuntu-devel
[23:40] <mmazing> unless ubuntu has been developed single-handedly by a guy named jeff
[23:40] <mmazing> tzs: thanks
[23:40] <ometzit> lol
[23:41] <daniel5940> good afternoon
[23:41] <nikolam> udisks-daemon is using one core 100% cou time. what can I or we do about it? (13.10 64bit)
[23:42] <daniel5940> I just found out about ubuntu os and am looking for more specific information regarding installing and using it
[23:42] <daniel5940> Iam at this point a windows baby only withno other experience lol
[23:42] <ometzit> nikolam what do you mean by alternative (text) install image?
[23:42] <nikolam> ubuntu is GNU/Linux distribution.
[23:42] <usr13> daniel5940: See ubuntu.com
[23:43] <Paddy_NI>  
[23:43] <daniel5940> that's how I ended up here usr13
[23:43] <nikolam> ometzit, welll, up to 12.04, there is .iso and usb image of install media, that does installation not via GUI, but via text interface
[23:43] <usr13> daniel5940: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[23:44] <usr13> daniel5940: Ok. Great.  Do you have any specific question(s)?
[23:44] <nikolam> daniel5940, see distrowatch.com and read wikipedia on linux
[23:45] <daniel5940> lol a lot, but the main one is what's the difference between ubuntu and windows (or mac, linux, etc)
[23:45] <MR_Wazzap11> Hey guys
[23:45] <usr13> daniel5940: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/index.html
[23:45] <usr13> daniel5940: The difference is BIG
[23:46] <ometzit> nikolam but running linux from a live usb you mean? what I have now is a bottable usb drive it would be running it there and installing by the terminal
[23:47] <usr13> daniel5940: Kind of like the difference between night and day, (between MS Windows and Linux) (between mac and linux, not so much, a little closer) (mac uses a form of BSD which is kind of close cousin to linux)
[23:48] <usr13> daniel5940: From MS Windows to Mac to Linux (to me) is like:  Good->Better->Best :)
[23:49] <cadot273kelvin> It depends what you want to do with it.
[23:49] <daniel5940> ok, but I have never used any os (that Iam aware of) other than windows based
[23:49] <usr13> daniel5940: Well then, you are in for a treat.  :)
[23:49] <nikolam> ometzit, maybe I didn't understand you . I was thinking you were reinstalling system on HD, using usb drive ad boot media? You should have Linuxc installed on HD , not on USB.
[23:49] <sprink> I used to say windows for games, macs for design, and linux productivity, but now days linux is almost good for gaming
[23:49] <cadot273kelvin> daniel5940: What do you use your computer for?
[23:50] <T1960CT> lol for me its Windows, Ubuntu12.04 then Mac.... goes from (engineer soon) to I love this OS but could do with knowing more, to NEVER TOUCHING THIS EVER
[23:51] <daniel5940> I use it for everything from gaming, to home office...  homeschooling my kid(s), to eventually installing my own security programs around the house
[23:51] <usr13> cadot273kelvin: That's kind of like asking; What do you use a car for?    Or what do you use dirt for?
[23:51] <ometzit> nikolam yes is on usb, but reinstalling from the USB. But wait I passed to the "where do you want to install" screen, I have a partition for windows and one for the previous linux installation, the one I want to reinstall
[23:52] <daniel5940> right nwo, I have two other computers that I have rebuilt; they currently have winXP on them, and only have 10 and 20gb hd's.  I am thinking of installing onto one of them tog et a feelf or it
[23:52] <ultrajenn> hi all, is there a way to check when your system shutdown unexpectedly? I had a power failure and wanted to trace back when the machine was working roughy
[23:52] <usr13> cadot273kelvin: See...  "I use it for everything..."  :)
[23:52] <usr13> ultrajenn: Could be overheating.
[23:53] <cadot273kelvin> usr13: kind of, some people do use their car to drive to work, some use it to race.  Some people use dirt for gardening, some use it to build houses.
[23:53] <ometzit> nikolam but I want to keep the home folder, while reinstalling everything else (hopefully there are no conflicts), what should I do?
[23:53] <nikolam> is it on btrfs?
[23:54] <nikolam> Btrfs file system can have subvolumes
[23:54] <usr13> cadot273kelvin:  Good point(s)...   :)
[23:54] <cadot273kelvin> daniel5940: that sounds like a good plan to get a feel for what you can do with it.
[23:54] <nikolam> and why installing 12.04 and not 13.10? ometzit
[23:54] <ultrajenn> usr13: I think that's the reason
[23:55] <cadot273kelvin> usr13: likewise, some game, some surf, some work etc...
[23:55] <daniel5940> will it run on as small a hard drive as 10gb?  I know winxp can install and operate on smaller but it will crash a lot due to lack of hd storage
[23:55] <usr13> !lts | nikolam
[23:55] <ultrajenn> I wanted to find out which log file I can investigate to find out at what time the machine was running before the crash
[23:55] <usr13> daniel5940: no
[23:55] <nikolam> yeah yeah usr13
[23:55] <ometzit> nikolam dunno, I downloaded that one, i would guess is better because of what ubottu said, or at least safer
[23:55] <usr13> daniel5940: Not unless you strip it down a LOT
[23:55] <ometzit> I hope it constains the broadcom drivers which are the source of all the mess
[23:56] <nikolam> ubottu, is a irc bot, usr13 pointed to it
[23:56] <nikolam> lol
[23:56] <daniel5940> what would be the minimum size hd you reccomend for ubuntu?
[23:56] <ometzit> haha
[23:56] <aberrant> hi all
[23:56] <usr13> daniel5940: Why would you want to limit a modern OS to 10G?
[23:56] <aberrant> xen, virtualbox, kvm, vmware, or other?
[23:56] <usr13> daniel5940: (A full desktop install is more than 10G.)
[23:57] <daniel5940> in the end, I wouldnt usr13, but right now my spare computers only have 10 and 20gb hd's
[23:57] <nikolam> ometzit, if it is not for server or you were religiously tight to LTS (like me was), then go for latest supported, 13.10. And install on HD :P
[23:57] <tonyt> 14.10 now
[23:57] <daniel5940> and I was wondering if they would work to get a basic feel for the os, to see if it was something Icould work with personally
[23:57] <usr13> daniel5940: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-requirements.html
[23:58] <usr13> daniel5940: http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/#
[23:59] <spytr0n> ??
[23:59] <ometzit> nikolam well it would be supported for 9 months i hope that updating it is not difficult....in 9 months lol
[23:59] <usr13> daniel5940: Ok, well you can probably fit into a 10G drive, maybe, but yes, for sure on a 20G