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knome | Mapley, hold your... ponies | 00:56 |
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knome | bbl -> | 00:57 |
Unit193 | The ISOs are getting awefully large... | 04:41 |
Noskcaj | Unit193, current size? | 04:42 |
Unit193 | ~900MB. | 04:43 |
Noskcaj | that's shot up quick | 04:43 |
Noskcaj | I wonder what could be used to reduce it | 04:45 |
Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/K6vzagtj8MuyXd3TFyUU/ | 04:46 |
Noskcaj | nothing shows up for the paste | 04:48 |
Unit193 | Weirdly nothing does unless you hit raw: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/dFvG9B7pMueL843yqKWX/ | 04:48 |
Unit193 | gnome-settings-*, gnome-session*, gnome-control*, and gnome-desktop* should be able to, if we can change what's pulling them. :/ | 04:50 |
Unit193 | Biggest part is, we have 3 python versions, right? | 04:50 |
Unit193 | Yep. | 04:51 |
Noskcaj | i think so | 04:52 |
Noskcaj | What do we have to do to drop 3.3 or 3.4 for the final iso? | 04:52 |
Noskcaj | also a lot of new cups stuff seems to be in | 04:52 |
Unit193 | Don't know offhand. | 04:52 |
Unit193 | Nice part of do-release-upgrade, you get the full list of things being installed (a lot of which gets purged. :P ) | 04:53 |
Noskcaj | gdisk seems to be a new recommend of udisks2 | 04:54 |
Unit193 | Recommends are killers. :/ | 04:55 |
Noskcaj | I wonder how much smaller our iso would be with --no-recommends | 04:56 |
Unit193 | On the bright side, we're about to bump them up with menulibre, mugshot, and xubuntu-community-wallpapers! :P | 04:56 |
Noskcaj | :) | 04:57 |
micahg | well, we should only end up with 2 versions of python by fonal | 04:57 |
micahg | fina | 04:57 |
micahg | final | 04:57 |
Unit193 | Nice. | 04:57 |
Unit193 | indicator-sound now has an alt dep on pavucontrol, so that shouldn't pull in one of the control centers... | 04:58 |
elfy | knome: ok - I'll look later | 07:31 |
elfy | knome: looked now - mucked about with it a bit | 08:49 |
elfy | zequence: many of our testcases are - open it, start a new <whatever>, save it, close it, does saved <whatever> open, does help work | 08:51 |
elfy | really basic stuff | 08:52 |
elfy | if you want someone to start running through them - I can find some time for it | 08:53 |
elfy | once the basic test is written it's not as bad to flesh them out - where it's required, the worst bit is actually getting them on the tracker - wasn't a great deal of fun last cycle, but it was worth it in the end | 08:58 |
zequence | elfy: Simple is best :). I think cub would be a good candidate to work on testing, if he can find some time for it | 09:30 |
zequence | It has happened that we released, and there have been some pretty serious, yet fixable bugs | 09:31 |
elfy | zequence: well I can start working on writing them today, I'll just work from the testcase bugs for your stuff | 09:31 |
zequence | That's mainly what I would like to prevent with testing | 09:31 |
zequence | elfy: We only need testcased for our multimedia applications, though | 09:32 |
elfy | yep - ok | 09:32 |
slickymaster-job | morning all | 09:42 |
elfy | hi slickymaster-job | 09:42 |
slickymaster-job | hi elfy. Did you have a good weekeend? | 09:44 |
elfy | pretty good thanks :) | 09:44 |
slickymaster-job | he had a pretty heavy storm here, yesterday | 09:45 |
elfy | zequence: I'll work with the 5 'menu' groups you have - Audio Production etc | 09:52 |
elfy | knome: somethings up with whatever package deals with keyboard settings, not sure which package it would be - but updates set keyboard layout to US - which can play havoc with passwords | 10:42 |
elfy | ochosi - maybe you know which it is | 10:42 |
ali1234 | it's a issue with ubuntu in general | 11:12 |
elfy | ok ali1234 thanks | 11:13 |
slickymaster-job | bbl -> | 12:54 |
jjfrv8 | knome, slickymaster-job, my first cut of the MenuLibre section in the Settings & Preferences chapter: http://imagebin.org/292590 | 14:15 |
jjfrv8 | subject to change pending the decision on whiskermenu | 14:15 |
jjfrv8 | if I'm going to work on the upstream version, I'm going to need a tutorial from bluesabre :) | 14:16 |
ochosi | jjfrv8: we're planning on taking a decision in this week's meeting to finalize the panel stuff | 14:17 |
jjfrv8 | cool | 14:17 |
elfy | let's hope enough people turn up then :) | 14:18 |
slickymaster-job | jjfrv8: it looks great, so far | 14:18 |
slickymaster-job | but we really do need a tuto on it | 14:19 |
ochosi | elfy: yeah, sorry for not being there for the last few meetings, it wasn't that i didn't want to attend | 14:21 |
elfy | ochosi: lol - I didn't mean anyone in particular, just if there's not many about it won't help with the whisker menu thing :) | 14:22 |
ochosi | well depends, we've voted on it once before | 14:22 |
elfy | the general idea yea | 14:23 |
ochosi | the proposed panel layout would work without it as well | 14:23 |
ochosi | just not as nicely | 14:23 |
elfy | and not whisker - but the proposed layout is what I was meaning too | 14:23 |
elfy | ochosi: which looks fine to me :) | 14:23 |
ochosi | yeah, it's not a real departure imo | 14:24 |
ochosi | so there's no need to make a huge fuss about it | 14:24 |
elfy | I agree | 14:24 |
ochosi | it's just a reduction of the current layout | 14:24 |
elfy | yea | 14:24 |
ochosi | since it's easy enough for ppl to customize it, i think that makes sense | 14:24 |
elfy | exactly - I'd love the default to be exactly like mine - but no-one else is likely to :) | 14:25 |
ochosi | :) | 14:30 |
ochosi | everyone would like the default to be like theirs i guess | 14:30 |
elfy | I'd guess so - being human and inherently bone idle :) | 14:30 |
slickymaster-job | knome: ping | 17:09 |
knome | slickymaster-job, pong | 17:09 |
slickymaster-job | lol, i chased you on -off | 17:10 |
knome | heh | 17:10 |
knome | slickymaster-job, so yeah, i'll look at that | 17:10 |
knome | thanks :) | 17:10 |
knome | pleia2, did you have something done re: the website updates? | 21:04 |
knome | we should really look into getting a new docs upload for beta 1 | 21:05 |
knome | that would also close a lot of the -docs blueprint work items, so it would be more accurate | 21:06 |
Unit193 | Some are pending, like shipping translations. :P | 21:10 |
knome | yep. | 21:10 |
knome | a lot of stuff is | 21:10 |
Unit193 | Also did that http://paste.openstack.org/show/iPSpyiAk8MSRAog8pQR3 | 21:11 |
knome | :) | 21:11 |
Unit193 | I'm trying to make it so people don't try rm -r for fun, thus used rm -ir | 21:12 |
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=== Queen_Mapley is now known as Mapley | ||
pleia2 | knome: no, I was missing all weekend | 22:25 |
ochosi | ali1234: have you bothered tedg about indicators lately? | 22:26 |
ali1234 | not this week no | 22:29 |
brainwash | can you link the bug report pls? | 22:31 |
brainwash | we could bump it a bit | 22:31 |
knome | pleia2, great to hear you've been found | 22:31 |
pleia2 | :) | 22:31 |
ochosi | ali1234: feel like launching a combined "attack" on him now that he's around? | 22:33 |
ali1234 | is he around? | 22:34 |
* knome ponders: hmm, pink wallpaper for trusty | 22:34 | |
ochosi | yeah, he just was on #ubuntu-desktop | 22:35 |
pleia2 | I LIEK PINK | 22:35 |
ochosi | ali1234: do you know what he has to fix technically speaking? | 22:37 |
ali1234 | sure, i sent a MR | 22:37 |
ochosi | oh, i didn't know that | 22:38 |
ochosi | sry, seems i don't know the full backstory | 22:38 |
ali1234 | i thought i mentioned it | 22:39 |
ochosi | you probably did, i wasn't at a few of the last meetings though | 22:39 |
slickymaster | hey knome, you still around? | 22:50 |
slickymaster | hey knome, you still around? | 22:50 |
knome | slickymaster, flooding the channel, aye? | 22:52 |
knome | :) | 22:52 |
slickymaster | nah, I hardly can feel my fingers | 22:53 |
slickymaster | got get myself some gloves :P | 22:53 |
knome | yep | 22:53 |
slickymaster | did you manage to browse through the wallpaper section? | 22:53 |
knome | nope, not yet | 22:54 |
knome | though you can poke jjfrv8 with them now | 22:54 |
knome | he's able to merge as well | 22:54 |
knome | and you don't need my ack for everything really :) | 22:54 |
slickymaster | yeah, good idea | 22:54 |
slickymaster | well, just playing on the safe side, even know you got a ton of issues between hands | 22:54 |
slickymaster | I'll try not to overload you so much | 22:55 |
knome | i did look really quickly at it, and what i saw looked fine | 22:55 |
slickymaster | I'll ping jjfrv8 on it | 22:55 |
slickymaster | if he's also ok with it, I'll make a MP for review | 22:56 |
slickymaster | jjfrv8: here's my proposal for the xfdestop of the settings-preferences chapter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6911856/ | 22:58 |
slickymaster | jjfrv8: please ping on your opinion | 22:58 |
ochosi | Noskcaj: ping | 23:04 |
ochosi | micahg: ping | 23:04 |
ochosi | knome: just to give you a quick heads up, since ali1234 and i just talked to tedg about gtk3 indicators in #ubuntu-desktop | 23:09 |
knome | okay | 23:09 |
ochosi | there's no clear ETA on fixing the indicators on the ubuntu side | 23:09 |
knome | but i guess it | 23:09 |
ochosi | they just pushed the half-borked stuff to get more time | 23:09 |
* bluesabre starts working on menulibre upstream documentation | 23:09 | |
knome | ...it's happening before T? | 23:09 |
knome | bluesabre, :) | 23:09 |
ochosi | because FF doesn't apply to this "bugfix" | 23:10 |
ali1234 | i don't think they did it on purpose | 23:10 |
ochosi | i think it's a bit nasty, but we should do the same | 23:10 |
knome | ochosi, yep. | 23:10 |
ochosi | yeah, ali1234 is right i guess, and i didn't mean to make it sound like they did it on purpose | 23:10 |
ali1234 | it was pushed months ago | 23:10 |
ochosi | just unhappy phrasing | 23:10 |
ochosi | i'm pretty sure this will get fixed in time | 23:11 |
ochosi | for T | 23:11 |
ochosi | but not for FF | 23:11 |
knome | ACK, i'm fine with that | 23:11 |
ochosi | and i also think there'll be no panel-release on the xfce-side before FF | 23:11 |
ochosi | so we should push what we have | 23:11 |
ali1234 | it has to get fixed really, otherwise unity will be broken, as previously stated | 23:11 |
ochosi | (is my conclusion) | 23:11 |
knome | ochosi, as long as it doesn't render anything completely unusable, sure | 23:12 |
ali1234 | if we're pushing a git snapshot anyway, i recommend somehow putting in the workaround if possible | 23:12 |
brainwash | ali1234: is unity really broken too? indicators seem to work fine like they always did | 23:12 |
knome | ali1234, that means more work though | 23:12 |
ali1234 | brainwash: it's a race condition | 23:13 |
knome | ali1234, we've just concluded that we shouldn't do workarounds | 23:13 |
ochosi | bluesabre: ? | 23:13 |
ali1234 | the workaround = putting a variable in the environment | 23:13 |
brainwash | ali1234: oh, never encountered it :) | 23:13 |
ochosi | bluesabre: whoopsie, that wasn't intended like that :) | 23:13 |
bluesabre | ? | 23:13 |
ali1234 | at the very least we should tell testers to apply the workaround manually | 23:14 |
ali1234 | and then add it to the release notes if it's still not fixed by then | 23:14 |
ochosi | +1 | 23:14 |
ali1234 | the workaround is "echo INDICATOR_ALLOW_NO_WATCHERS=yes | sudo tee -a /etc/environment" | 23:16 |
brainwash | it should check for the current session | 23:17 |
ali1234 | no, it shouldn't, because it is broken on all sessions | 23:17 |
ali1234 | including unity | 23:17 |
ochosi | ali1234: session restart needed after that i presume? | 23:17 |
ali1234 | right | 23:17 |
ochosi | ali1234: indicator-application still doesn't want to start | 23:19 |
ochosi | or do i have to reboot? | 23:19 |
ali1234 | hmm. yeah you might have to reboot | 23:20 |
ali1234 | check env? | 23:20 |
ochosi | yup, need reboot | 23:20 |
ali1234 | check the /etc/environment is okay too | 23:20 |
ali1234 | it might have put it on the same line or something | 23:21 |
ochosi | PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:INDICATOR_ALLOW_NO_WATCHERS=yes" | 23:21 |
ali1234 | yeah that's wrong | 23:22 |
ochosi | should be in a separate line? | 23:22 |
ali1234 | yes | 23:22 |
ali1234 | also it shouldn't be inside the quotes like that | 23:22 |
ali1234 | you did it manually? | 23:22 |
ochosi | no, used your suggested command | 23:22 |
ali1234 | where did the extra : come from? ;) | 23:22 |
ochosi | oh, hm | 23:23 |
ochosi | might've added that manually some other time then :) | 23:23 |
ali1234 | i don't know if /etc/environment has a trailing newline by default, but it should do | 23:23 |
ochosi | yup, that worked | 23:24 |
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