| apachelogger | Riddell: low fat settings has been axed btw | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | like a year ago | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | because MG was annoying me all day @pineda | 00:14 |
| soee | hmm what is this libkubuntu0 package that muon shows to be installed but it can not be ? | 00:19 |
| ahoneybun | soee firefox 27 was pushed to saucy | 00:35 |
| soee | ahoneybun: waiting for trusty :/ | 00:38 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 00:38 |
| * mamarley wishes that the Ubuntu Mozilla Team people would put out the beta releases in their PPA in a more timely fashion :( | 00:42 | |
| apachelogger | soee: it cannot be installed? | 01:13 |
| soee | apachelogger: muon shows stateus as "not installed" and request as "install" but if i apply vhanges it does nothing | 01:14 |
| soee | no error but package is not installed | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | meh | 01:17 |
| apachelogger | I won't get to bed today | 01:17 |
| apachelogger | soee: let me think of a way to debug that | 01:17 |
| apachelogger | soee: can you build muon yourself real quick? | 01:18 |
| soee | probably it will tage a little longer as i would have to install all dependencies to build a package (im after fresh install) | 01:19 |
| soee | lets do it tomorrow :) | 01:19 |
| apachelogger | soee: or maybe... do the following for starters.... killall qaptworker2; killall muon-updater; kdebugdialog ... then select all and apply | 01:19 |
| apachelogger | then start muon-updater from a terminal, hit ctrl-r to reload the cache and try to update | 01:20 |
| apachelogger | paste the output from the terminal | 01:20 |
| soee | its gone from the list | 01:22 |
| apachelogger | soee: does the update work? | 01:23 |
| soee | seems so http://pastebin.com/v2s8mdG8 | 01:23 |
| apachelogger | muon-updater(30661) ApplicationUpdates::start: couldn't find any apt updates | 01:23 |
| apachelogger | soee: so it doesn't list any udpates at all? | 01:24 |
| soee | oen second | 01:24 |
| soee | muon-updater doesnt't show any, the package is listed in the muon thoug | 01:24 |
| apachelogger | ahhhhhhhhhhhh, now I get it | 01:25 |
| apachelogger | soee: so you try to install it via muon itself and that does not work? | 01:25 |
| soee | nope, it finishes updates but the package is listed as to be insalled always | 01:26 |
| soee | http://wstaw.org/w/2v2P/linki/ | 01:27 |
| apachelogger | most peculiar | 01:27 |
| apachelogger | what I don't get though... why is it listed there at all | 01:29 |
| soee | noe idea :D | 01:29 |
| apachelogger | libkubuntu0 is a dependency of kde-runtime, so if the upgrade would install libkubuntu0 it would also have to upgrade kde-runtime | 01:29 |
| apachelogger | soee: what does apt-cache policy kde-runtime say? | 01:29 |
| soee | can i somehow clear cache of muon or something ? | 01:29 |
| apachelogger | you can close muon and reopen it :P | 01:30 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure that would change anything tho | 01:30 |
| soee | http://pastebin.com/C57vSiMb | 01:30 |
| apachelogger | this is the stranges thing in the world | 01:31 |
| soee | this show up like 2-3 days ago | 01:32 |
| apachelogger | actually | 01:33 |
| apachelogger | no, it all makes no sense :P | 01:34 |
| apachelogger | soee: somehow your qapt became incapable of listing updates | 01:34 |
| soee | oh? and others work just fine | 01:35 |
| apachelogger | soee: what's the output of sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade | 01:35 |
| soee | http://pastebin.com/eVt3xpa7 | 01:36 |
| apachelogger | right | 01:37 |
| apachelogger | not a qapt issue | 01:37 |
| apachelogger | phew | 01:37 |
| apachelogger | soee: your cache is busted | 01:37 |
| soee | :O | 01:37 |
| apachelogger | soee: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | 01:37 |
| apachelogger | (note how the dist-upgrade output makes no sense, it says libkubuntu0 is installed, but then goes on saying it needs to install libkubuntu0) | 01:38 |
| soee | http://pastebin.com/LF2USxLk | 01:38 |
| apachelogger | soee: you may wan to at lreast remove the kubuntu-ppa entries in there | 01:39 |
| apachelogger | there's definitely not particularly save packages coming in from there | 01:39 |
| apachelogger | and xorg-edgers is always a gamble | 01:39 |
| apachelogger | soee: also what's apt-get check say? | 01:39 |
| apachelogger | also, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libkubuntu0 | 01:40 |
| soee | http://pastebin.com/Zsm3rrFK | 01:40 |
| apachelogger | afk brushing teeth | 01:42 |
| apachelogger | soee: try the update install command, that might resolve the problem | 01:42 |
| soee | looks liek it installed it: http://pastebin.com/yPXxKqd6 | 01:43 |
| soee | but now muon button Full Upgrade is active | 01:44 |
| soee | but if i click on it i have error message | 01:44 |
| soee | about unment deps | 01:44 |
| apachelogger | oh | 01:45 |
| apachelogger | well | 01:45 |
| apachelogger | first | 01:45 |
| apachelogger | soee: again `sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade` | 01:46 |
| soee | http://pastebin.com/dw4Xxdxv | 01:46 |
| apachelogger | soee: sudo apt-get install -s plasma-scriptengine-javascript | 01:47 |
| soee | ah ok so this previous package is fine now | 01:47 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 01:48 |
| apachelogger | my guess is that now some PPA is blocking the runtime stuff | 01:48 |
| apachelogger | s/runtime/scriptengine/ | 01:48 |
| kubotu | apachelogger meant: "my guess is that now some PPA is blocking the scriptengine stuff" | 01:48 |
| soee | uhm to beig output ot pastebin i think ;/ | 01:49 |
| soee | *big | 01:49 |
| soee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912493/ | 01:50 |
| apachelogger | Inst plasma-scriptengine-javascript [4:4.12.2-0ubuntu1] (4:4.12.2+git20140210+bzr18249+pkg405~ubuntu14.04.1 Kubuntu Updates:14.04/trusty [amd64]) | 01:53 |
| apachelogger | soee: the updates PPA has some issue | 01:53 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ^ | 01:53 |
| apachelogger | soee: maybe wait | 01:54 |
| soee | sure | 01:54 |
| apachelogger | I guess yofel can find out why exactly it acts up | 01:54 |
| apachelogger | but basically upgrading that package would remove half the system which is why muon and dist-ugprade refuse to install it as an update | 01:55 |
| apachelogger | rightfully so | 01:55 |
| soee | yup, ok its not big issue for me, im happy that the problem with the first package is gone | 01:55 |
| apachelogger | soee: fwiw, if you feel like not using the bzr builds, you can apt pin origin Ubuntu with a higher priority forcing your system into official package versions | 01:55 |
| soee | thank you for your help apachelogger | 01:56 |
| apachelogger | I personally find it always a bit dangerous to use PPAs on the devel series | 01:56 |
| apachelogger | since sometimes things move so quick that brekage becomes a lot more likely with PPAs enabled ^^ | 01:56 |
| apachelogger | and with that I am off to bed | 01:56 |
| apachelogger | nini | 01:56 |
| === jono is now known as Guest13828 | ||
| soee | thanks again | 01:57 |
| snele | guys I am using 14.04 for about 10 days now as my main/production system | 06:41 |
| snele | what I have noticied that muon updater never pops up to inform me about updates | 06:42 |
| snele | is this normal/expected for non-final release? | 06:42 |
| valorie | snele: I guess we are gathering feedback here: https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts/WxmRfrRTdKN | 07:01 |
| valorie | you are quite a gambler to be using an alpha release as your production system | 07:02 |
| jarkko_ | The following packages have been kept back: | 08:01 |
| jarkko_ | usb-modeswitch-data | 08:01 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | valorie: feedback != bugs fwiw :P | 10:06 |
| * apachelogger actually wonders how shadeslayer blogged on monday but his blog says he blogged on sunday | 10:12 | |
| apachelogger | such confusing | 10:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kubuntu-meta migrated, ISOs are below size threshold again \o/ | 10:28 |
| jarkko_ | apachelogger: what's the size now? | 10:30 |
| apachelogger | <=1gib | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 1278814 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1278814 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kcm name should change" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278814 | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 1278732 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1278732 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-driver-manager crashes while trying to refresh driver list " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278732 | 10:44 |
| jarkko_ | what's akonadi? | 10:44 |
| cortexA9 | hello | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 1278816 | 10:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1278816 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "crash when clicking reload two times in a row" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278816 | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | hey cortexA9 | 10:49 |
| cortexA9 | hi apachelogger | 10:49 |
| cortexA9 | i have already that problem | 10:50 |
| cortexA9 | at startup | 10:50 |
| cortexA9 | boot only with 3.11 kernel | 10:50 |
| cortexA9 | the others go on initramfs screen | 10:50 |
| cortexA9 | apachelogger: is it a known issue? | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | can't confirm anyway | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | ~ uname -a | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | Linux smith 3.13.0-8-generic #27-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 7 02:01:37 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | cortexA9: whether it's known you'll have to ask the kernel guys | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 1278826 | 11:31 |
| ubottu | bug 1278826 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "selecting driver, but denying authorization bugs out state tracking" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278826 | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug 1278827 | 11:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1278827 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "state tracking incomplete" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278827 | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thx | 11:50 |
| cortexA9 | hi BluesKaj | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj | hi cortexA9 | 11:52 |
| jussi | do we even have an alternate cd anymore?= | 13:14 |
| Peace- | jussi: alternate cd is not here from 1 2 release i guess | 13:15 |
| Peace- | releases | 13:15 |
| jussi | Peace-: thats what I thought... | 13:16 |
| jussi | just that lordievader called !rescue before... | 13:16 |
| jussi | !rescue | 13:16 |
| ubottu | To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system" | 13:16 |
| jussi | does ubuntu have an alt cd ? | 13:16 |
| lordievader | I figured it would point to how to boot into the rescue mode, it didn't. | 13:16 |
| Peace- | jussi: i don't remember well but that option should be on normal cd | 13:17 |
| Peace- | on ubuntu cd | 13:17 |
| jussi | I dont think so... | 13:17 |
| Riddell | "There have been repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An application may be misbehaving." should I be worried that plasma-nm can't talk to my kwallet suddenly? | 13:18 |
| * BluesKaj doesn't bother kwallet, it's a pita for home users like me, tuning it off solves a lot of annoyances | 13:29 | |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| sgclark | Riddell: hopefully fixed dpic up | 14:00 |
| * Riddell takes a keek | 14:05 | |
| Riddell | sgclark: looking lovely, uploaded to experimental PPA! | 14:07 |
| sgclark | thanks :) cirkuit coming soon | 14:08 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - So Blue. | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.12.1 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs https://tinyurl.com/ovfcj78 | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | ISO testing http://goo.gl/cRAawa | Discover Featured Apps http://goo.gl/OlIky1 | ||
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: btw, please try to make the touchpad blog post less technical ^^ | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer: I started appending stuff to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu so we don't forget | 14:45 |
| Riddell | great | 14:45 |
| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| sgclark | phonon-backend-null_4.7.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb: Size mismatch what does this mean? | 14:51 |
| Riddell | sgclark: glitch in the matrix? | 14:52 |
| Riddell | try and apt-get update && apt-get install phonon-backend-null | 14:52 |
| sgclark | happening in pbuilder, updating now | 14:52 |
| sgclark | hrmm no help | 14:53 |
| Riddell | remove the cache? | 14:53 |
| Riddell | not sure how you do that with pbuilder | 14:53 |
| sgclark | ok | 14:54 |
| Riddell | rm /var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache/* | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | nah | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | apt-get clean | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | one does not delete the cache manually :P | 14:54 |
| Riddell | but how you run that for pbuilder? | 14:55 |
| Riddell | it doesn't use the normal apt cache | 14:55 |
| Riddell | pbuilder --clean might help | 14:55 |
| sgclark | apt-get clean did nthing, will try that | 15:04 |
| sgclark | nope, hmm | 15:06 |
| jarkko_ | W: GPG error: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: usuallly pbuilder will share the apt cache unless explicitly told not to | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | so cleaning the host will clean it for pbuilder as well | 15:11 |
| Riddell | oh? so what is /var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache/ for? | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | hardlinks | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | that being said, if you were to use different partitions for the various caches it would also not be shared | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/gzmL8ss.png can we get a screenshot there somehow? | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: of what? | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I propose https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/p206x206/168621_192469560772608_4286474_n.jpg | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | better than the red thing for sure | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kdevelop or qt creator with some codez | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | or vim for all I care | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | something code anyway | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | or | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | snapshot of techbase | 15:17 |
| sgclark | cleaned host and pbuilder with --autocleanaptcache fixed one phonon package but not another is broken. weird... | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ask apol whether we could simply make discover display the icon when no screnshot could be loaded | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | that would resolve this ugly red thing for most apps | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: apol says that it's wrong to not have a screenshot | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | we could just reuse the kdevelop screenshot? | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | if it is a nice one | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | just need something there, that red thing looks terribad | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | add a card | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | or report a bug | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | and assign to me | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | report a card | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | card a report | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | no wait | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | THIS IS SILLY | 15:20 |
| * apachelogger slaps shadeslayer with a fish and bugs a card | 15:20 | |
| apachelogger | also one wonders why that package is 46k | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | much confusion has been had | 15:21 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1278912] Wrong graph legend for network manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278912 (by Hồng Quân) | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Size: 2764 | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | very peculiar how disocver gets that value | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | oh well | 15:23 |
| * apachelogger quickly forgets about it again before this ends in a bug hunt | 15:23 | |
| * apachelogger afk | 15:36 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: where do I leave comments about policy? | 15:46 |
| Riddell | e-mail? here? edit the wiki? | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger http://paste.kde.org/pycfeqxpt | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you upload tomahawk for me | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | link to dsc coming up in 5 minutes | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it's a wiki plz apply random fixer00 :P | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: Whenever upstream does not approve of a patch on the basis of technical problems, it must not be included or must be removed. There is no exception to this rule. | 15:53 |
| Riddell | hmm, that seems quite unflexible | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | that's the point of it | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/tomahawk_0.7.0%2Bdfsg1-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1.dsc | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sure, I understand that, but we've broken that policy before | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | becaue if you patch shit and upstream does not agree then you are effectively forking the upstream software | 15:54 |
| Riddell | sometimes upstream can be wrong? | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the present version of the maverick policy was never approved I think | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: then you are to fork the upstream software | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | or convince upstream of their wrongful ways | 15:55 |
| Riddell | ooh ahoneybun getting into packaging? | 15:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: these are the same items or separate? * Update copyright file a bit * Add LGPL-2.1 license | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: separate | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: complete copy of the license was missing | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | so I added it | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: right, we had a policy in theory, just not written down that we don't ship patches unless approved by upstream | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yet we shipped the kwallet patch | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | it was written down | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | when upstream had a differing opinion | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | it was not approved | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fine, my point remains | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | effectively we did not have a policy | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes, and doing that caused tention with upstream developers | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | right so even if upstream differs in opinion we don't ship said patch? | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | which is why the rewrite of the policy is as undynamic as it is (the previous version also wasn't exactly flexible ^^) | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: exactly | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | or you official fork upstream | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | making yourself upstream | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: does that mean post new policy we remove the kwallet patch then ? | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | which will also create social problems but if there is technical failure I get to call people names | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes, I thought we had done that already? | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | we have? | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | last fortnight QA yielded kwallet init dialogs | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | (and IIRC the dialog actually defaulted to gpg which was a bit odd in itself ^^) | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | cool then, but I'd clarify in policy tbh | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | Whenever upstream does not approve of a patch on the basis of technical problems, it must not be included or must be removed. There is no exception to this rule. | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | I think that's pretty clear? :P | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what about a difference of opinion on how said upstream software should behave | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | Whenever upstream does not approve of a patch on the basis of technical problems, it must not be included or must be removed. There is no exception to this rule. | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | note that last sentence | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: - Clarify if software in Extragear and scratch repos counts as official KDE Software | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | anything on the KDE infra counts as KDE Software? | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | I would rather think so, yes | 16:03 |
| Riddell | any software which comes from KDE | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | only kde related nonsense ought to go there | 16:03 |
| Riddell | which could be outside the kde infrastructure according to the manifesto (but not anything so far) | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | alright, what happened to Patch type C? | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | so everything on kde infra is nonsenese related to KDE, thus KDE may feel responsible or not | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | if they do, then hooray, if not then oh well | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what do you mean? | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | ah | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: type d is d because of DANGER | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | xD | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | quite literally when I read the old policy again the first thing that popped to mind when reading that last patch type description was a danger sign with a godzillion exclamation marks ^^ | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, of course that part of the manifesto makes it impossibru to generally identify such software, so I think if we just hold on to either hosted on git.kde or using bugs.kde we have a pretty good ruleset for identification | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | which would also have covered amarok during the git migration through gitorious as bugs were still handled on bugs.kde | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | equally kaffeine I think was developed on sf.net but bugs on kde | 16:08 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: fancy packaging ktp 0.7.1 ? | 16:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: How long till Freeze? I might want to get it into Debian if it's not there. | 16:09 |
| Riddell | um, no rush I think | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I'll start working on it then | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: it's packaged | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | I haven't QA'd it | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | eh | 16:11 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: for Ubuntu or Debian? | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | youboontoo | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly?field.series_filter=trusty | 16:11 |
| Riddell | ooh groovy | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | if anyone wants to, plz test and upload ^^ | 16:12 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: can you test? | 16:13 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Certainly | 16:14 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: How about you do that for Debian and poke me or detrout so we can just sync in then | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: how do I revert a part of a pushed commit? | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ENOTIME today | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: in bzr ofcourse | 16:14 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I'm talking about future occurences | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: sure | 16:14 |
| Quintasan | Splendid. | 16:15 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: bzr uncommit (can't do part as far as I know) | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | ffffuuuuu | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/165569934/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.cmake_2.8.12.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 16:18 |
| Riddell | why are you building cmake for precise? | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: kde-workspace won't build without cmake from trusty | 16:20 |
| Riddell | hmm gosh | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: FWIW I'm doing KF5 | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | possibly using scripts | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | lets see how that goes | 16:23 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: alpha 1? awesomeness | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:23 |
| Riddell | adapting the kubuntu-automation script would seem the way to go | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 16:23 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1278912] Wrong graph legend for network manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278912 (by Hồng Quân) | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I don't reckon you have a mapping of KDE source names to Kubuntu source names | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ping | 17:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: for kf5? they should all be the same except attica | 17:04 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 17:04 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916031/ | 17:05 |
| Riddell | sgclark: tsk clashing files, that can just be renamed at install time | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: do you have a clue how bzr-buildpackage works? | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | i.e. where it looks for the orig tarball | 17:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it works multiple ways and looks in multiple places for the orig tar | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: locally? | 17:07 |
| Riddell | yes locally first, and in the bzr branch for UDD branches, then it'll fall back on debian/watch I think | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | right, but where locally | 17:07 |
| Riddell | locally it just looks in .. I think | 17:07 |
| Riddell | it'll also try to apt-get source | 17:08 |
| soee | shadeslayer: if you try to refresh list of drivers in kubuntu-driver-manager whole system settings app crashes :) | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | soee: yeah known issue | 17:08 |
| soee | ah ok :) anyway looks nice so far | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | soee: only when you hit it twice though right? | 17:09 |
| sgclark | Riddell: patch the source or is there a way to rename in debian files? | 17:09 |
| soee | shadeslayer: ee i run it first time it fetched list of drivers, i clicked to refresch and crash | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | mmm that's pretty bad | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | weird how it worked when I released it >.> | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | soee: I have a backtrace, I need to rework large parts and update | 17:10 |
| soee | shadeslayer: it will land by default in 14.04 ? | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 17:10 |
| soee | ok, nice | 17:10 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I think I'd do it by overriding the install rule and mv the file before running dh_install | 17:10 |
| sgclark | ok | 17:12 |
| soee | i have also some new entry in sys-settings called Diagnostic | 17:12 |
| soee | is it also new ? | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | soee: yep | 17:14 |
| Riddell | agateau: well my attempts to remaster an image with your ubiquity patches on it have failed to got something I can boot my computer from, works ok on a virtual machine but it doesn't run the first pre-login screen | 17:21 |
| Riddell | I can't find any logs to say that it's even trying so it might just be my remastering that's broken | 17:21 |
| Riddell | currently I'm thinking it'll be easiest to just upload it and see what breaks | 17:22 |
| Riddell | oem installer still works and with a nice background now | 17:22 |
| Riddell | new partition bar is pretty but could do with some more testage | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you might want to start working on attica | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: patches fail to apply | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | same for frameworkintegration | 17:25 |
| Riddell | pourquoi moi? | 17:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: you can just remove both patched | 17:28 |
| Riddell | I sent them upstream | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | kapidox.install is empty? | 17:28 |
| Riddell | it's a 1 .deb package I think | 17:29 |
| Riddell | not needed | 17:29 |
| Riddell | frameworkintegration fix_icons_path.diff can go, I think the other patch is still needed | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | I'm saying that you have a debian/kapidox.install :) | 17:29 |
| Riddell | yes, you can just remove it | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: was Rename-CheckXML-to-resolve-conflict.diff forwarded? | 17:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yep | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Rename-manpages-to-resolve-conflict-with-kde4.diff ? | 17:36 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: also upstream | 17:37 |
| soee | 14.04 will use lightdm? There were some rumors that it will be replaced (maybe when KF5 shows up)? | 17:40 |
| Riddell | it won't be replaced in 14.04 | 17:41 |
| Riddell | we hope to go with whatever upstream chooses after that, SDDM is the competition | 17:41 |
| cortexA9 | Riddell: hello :) | 17:41 |
| Riddell | hi cortexA9 | 17:41 |
| soee | Riddell: ok good to know | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: rename_dbus.diff in Solid? | 17:44 |
| sgclark | Riddell: cirkuit ready | 17:44 |
| Riddell | sgclark: upstream | 17:44 |
| Riddell | no | 17:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: upstream | 17:44 |
| sgclark | ? | 17:44 |
| sgclark | ok | 17:44 |
| Riddell | sgclark: will look in a sec | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: no-install-dbus-interfaces.diff for kglobalaccel? | 17:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: upstreamed | 17:47 |
| Riddell | they've all been upstreamed, I've been a good boy :) | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | oh, so drop all patches then? | 17:47 |
| Riddell | hmm well maybe the kauth ones were after the alpha | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I belive upstreamed too | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: plz have a look at attica | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | I am unsure about those patches | 17:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: they've both gone upstream | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | same for kio? | 17:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yep | 17:59 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: pong? | 17:59 |
| Riddell | sgclark: comments http://paste.kde.org/pzjwo5bpd | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: nvm | 18:00 |
| yofel | k | 18:00 |
| sgclark | Riddell: package name does not match so-name is reason to split. putting executable in lib package seemed wrong | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: uploading first set of packages | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: still need to work through a few of them | 18:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: it would not build without dpic | 18:06 |
| sgclark | Riddell: scratch last one | 18:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: lost me on #9, I never saw that | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: all of these need to be done | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/psafkbfir | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer | I have to stop since the alloted time for KF5 is done :) | 18:13 |
| * Riddell wonders when shadeslayer became such a slave to schedule | 18:17 | |
| Riddell | sgclark: line 9 is what I get when first running it | 18:18 |
| Riddell | rm ~/.kde/share/apps/cirkuit and run again and you should get it | 18:18 |
| Riddell | I think that's just how the program works but seems like a strange way to work | 18:18 |
| sgclark | ok I get it, but I don't know what I can do to fix it | 18:19 |
| Riddell | sgclark: if it needs dpic to build then keep it in build-deps but also add it to Depends for the .deb package | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ever since I realized I had no life outside of work because I spent way too much time doing the small things :) | 18:19 |
| Riddell | sgclark: no fix needed, if that's what upstream wants that's what upstream will get | 18:19 |
| * yofel passes shadeslayer a cup of coffee | 18:19 | |
| sgclark | will fix dpic, you were right not needed for build | 18:19 |
| Riddell | sgclark: can you get the programme to do anything useful? | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 18:20 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I don't know how to build circuits | 18:20 |
| Riddell | circuits? | 18:21 |
| sgclark | Riddell: that is what this program is for, printed circuit board creation | 18:21 |
| Riddell | oh you mean the real ones you model in citkuit :) | 18:21 |
| sgclark | right lol | 18:21 |
| sgclark | it seems examples are not installed though, hmm | 18:22 |
| Riddell | but you can download them | 18:23 |
| Riddell | when I try one it complains about missing a file in texlive-latex-extra, installing | 18:23 |
| Riddell | only 300MB | 18:23 |
| sgclark | Riddell: fixed dpic to depend on runtime. in ubuntu one. | 18:31 |
| sgclark | I am sure folks that actually build circuits in programs like these would know how to make this program useful. I saw alot of praise on their website | 18:32 |
| Riddell | sgclark: hey if I install texlive-latex-extra then it begins to work | 18:36 |
| Riddell | so add that to the depends | 18:37 |
| sgclark | ok will do | 18:37 |
| Riddell | ooh pretty diagrams | 18:37 |
| Riddell | yes you do need to know what you're doing to use this programme I think | 18:37 |
| Riddell | but the examples are nice | 18:37 |
| shadeslayer | so man FTBFS's :) | 18:43 |
| sgclark | Riddell: that did the trick :) fixed uploaded | 18:50 |
| Riddell | sgclark: copyright still says LGPL | 18:51 |
| sgclark | oops | 18:51 |
| sgclark | Riddell: fixed uploaded | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/?p=326&shareadraft=52fa7345203a7 < review plz | 19:00 |
| Riddell | sgclark: upstream lists a few more dependencies needed http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/magostin/cirkuit.html | 19:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok | 19:02 |
| Riddell | sgclark: can you try adding a watch file, upstream hasn't got a nice neat download page unfortunately but you should be able to point it at http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/magostin/cirkuit.html for links | 19:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping | 19:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: reads good | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: pong | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: cheers | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: halp | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pytifsehy | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: code is http://paste.kde.org/pbjmje1f0 | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | hm, no proper licensing in there | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: anyway, the problem is, when I hit refresh now, my older connect calls are still active, hence the ui gets double the number of entries | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | so I could a) make the QDBusPendingCallWatcher variable a private member and disconnect calls in the refresh function | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | or b) I could make it more async the way I made driver fetching more async | 19:10 |
| sgclark | Riddell: deps added, attempt at watch file added, uploaded | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: Qt::SingleConnection or somesuch | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: cheers | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | it's an argument for connect | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qt.html#ConnectionType-enum | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the timeout code is still wrong btw | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oh? | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | each function should have timer.stop() at the beginning and timer.start at the end | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | i.e. you do not want to autoterminate while things are happening | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | that's why I originally said the timeout should be relatively low | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: well, I'm thinking of eliminating timer since it can take more than 25 seconds as witnessed on David's machine | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you still need autotermination | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | it shoud not happen while you are inside a function though | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: true, however autotermination needs figuring out | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | which is why you need to stop and start the timer respectively | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that's what I just explained.... | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | you have a timer that is active whenever you are idle | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | ahah | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | got it | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | watch out for syncness though | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Qt::UniqueConnection right? | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | if one calls function a and then function b, be should not start the timer | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | I am wondering though | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: when would it call connect twice? | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | QDBusPendingCallWatcher async = new QDBusPendingCallWatcher(driverForDeviceMap, this); | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | object is destroyed with kcm exit | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | old connects still in place | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | ah | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | in the cpp code | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | why did you paste me the python then :P | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | because I was going for solution a) | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | ah | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | well, fwiw, I personally prefer manual disconnnects but I am weird with explicitness of code | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | much like I prefer manual point management over using qpointer | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | forces one to know what one is doing ^^ | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw are you sure this will work | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | alas, if one doesn't know then shit goes wrong ;) | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | because apparently everything must match, even the object | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what? uniqueconnection? | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | yews | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | "i.e., if the same signal is already connected to the same slot for the same pair of objects," | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: a connection cannot be duplicated unless it is exactly the same | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | objects are different in this case | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | since I have a new call in there | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | post dat cpp plz | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pmalqfntr | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: how is that causing the typerror you pasted? | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: it's not | 19:21 |
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| apachelogger | you are confusing me | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | the typerror was caused when I was going for solution a | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fine, let's start from the beginning | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | well solution a is nonense | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: let me show you | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | just tell me what the problem is | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | although I think I see it already ^^ | 19:24 |
| Riddell | sgclark: "Initial release closes: LP: #12345" you're supposed to replace that 12345 with the bug number :) | 19:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils (Ubuntu) "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345 | 19:24 |
| sgclark | Riddell: gah, oops, sorry lol | 19:25 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I'll upload to experimental | 19:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: did you fix that then? | 19:25 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yep | 19:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: thanks! | 19:25 |
| Riddell | we'll get a third opinion on it then upload to the archive | 19:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: anything else I can work on? | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: when I hit refresh now : http://im9.eu/picture/l15690 | 19:26 |
| Riddell | sgclark: you could update the verson of gtk2-engines-oxygen ? | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | Qt::UniqueConnection does not help btw | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | yeha that's expected | 19:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: We're waiting on Qt 5.2 for your Frameworks 5 packages to go in, right? | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: because async is not the same object? | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: and you are sure that happens because of 4 calls into driverMapFinished? | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | i.e. did you actually insert a qdebug in there and check | 19:27 |
| Riddell | ScottK: we would need 5.2 for the kf5 packages, dunno if I want to upload them to the archive in alpha state | 19:28 |
| Riddell | sgclark: and gtk3 https://projects.kde.org/ | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yep http://paste.kde.org/ptfpqam8r | 19:28 |
| Riddell | sgclark: uploaded to experimental! | 19:29 |
| * Riddell cycles off | 19:29 | |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok, I am unclear on updating exsisting packages, will try to figure it out | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: 5.2 is in Debian, so maybe it should go to Debian Experimental first anyway. Then we can decide what to do. | 19:29 |
| Riddell | sgclark: just ask anyone here | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | oh god paste.kde :@ | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: oh, quite possibly at the begging of the slot you want to call data.disconnect() and at the end data.deleteLater() | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I do call data.deleteLater | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | oh well | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | is that code pushed>? | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | I don't call data->disconnect() though | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | trying with that | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: doesn't work :( | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: is that code pushed? | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: pushed | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: without data->disconnect though | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: void Module::driverDictFinished(QVariantMapMap data) is being called twice | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | and that does not seem to have a delete or disconnect | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | oh hmm | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | ah | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | m_manager is scoped | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that needs the uniqueconnection :P | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | makes sense | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | connect(m_manager, SIGNAL(dataReady(QVariantMapMap)), SLOT(driverDictFinished(QVariantMapMap)), Qt::UniqueConnection); | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | :P | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | right | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: learn to printf debug plz :P | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | >.> | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there's a ui state bug I just noticed, while you are loading the reload button is still enabled | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | so I can still forcefully trigger the device duplication if I simply keep hitting the button | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/fJdpnCv.png | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: FWIW, it may be worthwhile to introduce a saveguard against this duplication | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | since I guess you have the device id somewhere it would be easy to simply check whether deviceid is already in the list of widgets and only add if not | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I hope you took notes of what I spewed because I am not :P | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fixed the reload button | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | but not sure about the duplication thing | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | *might* be possible | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | can't say | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: will have a look tomorrow in any case | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: can you check if your crash is fixed? | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also, I'm not sure what data structure to use to track state for the apply button :) | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | I was thinking of a sorted QStringList | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | but that seems inefficient | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | anyt thoughts on a better way? | 19:49 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: love the look of the new driver manager | 19:49 |
| sgclark | I am trying to figure out how to update existing packages, stuck at stage 1. uscan warning: In debian/watch no matching files for watch line. But there is a new version, ideas? | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: good to hear :) | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: huh? | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you know when you are fetching and you know when you are done fetching, no? | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | so fetching = setEnabled(false) and !fetching = setEnabled(true) | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: for the apply button? | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | yes | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: My question was more related to when you do : select driver a -> select driver b -> select driver a -> apply button is still enabled | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | or if you just click driver a again | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | then the apply button becomes enabled | 19:51 |
| apachelogger | there's like a godzillion optionsfor that | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | I'm all ears | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | bool DriverWidget::hasChanged() | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | int DriverWidget::m_defaultSelection | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | or actually | 19:53 |
| apachelogger | perhaps wire up signals between DriverWidget instances and the KCM's changed signal | 19:53 |
| apachelogger | I'd definitely simply have an int denoting the default selection and then evaluate changedness by comparing the selected driver entry with the default one | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | ojk | 19:54 |
| sgclark | ok I fixed the watch file, but it has debian git-import-orig and I get ( is not a git repository) error. | 20:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how do you get the kde infra to send emails via scratch repos ? :P | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: and do you reckon http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916989/ the correct fix for bug 1278826 | 20:19 |
| ubottu | bug 1278826 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "selecting driver, but denying authorization bugs out state tracking" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278826 | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | possibly | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | doesn't look all too wrong anyway | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: and re https://trello.com/c/aR2V1zm7/97-firefox-import-bookmarks-from-rekonq-kde-somehow , documentation should be written in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu ? | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | or linked to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu and a new page on techbase | 20:23 |
| soee | ha this is not true: Mozilla Firefox 27 :D | 20:31 |
| soee | atm it is Mozilla Firefox 25 | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | soee: nope, it's 27 | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | or it should be | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | atleast saucy has 27 | 20:33 |
| soee | yes i agree it should be but isnt :) there is beta in proposed | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | so hungry :( | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | I broke something http://im9.eu/picture/s15690 | 20:45 |
| * mamarley wonders why no-one seems to use sub-pixel rendering anymore... | 20:46 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: release notes | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | the official ones | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | no clue where we do those | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | Riddell or ScottK proably know | 20:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu | 20:46 |
| shadeslayer | aren't those the release notes? | 20:47 |
| shadeslayer | either way, can't do shit, moin moin is broken | 20:47 |
| shadeslayer | mamarley: we have a task to investigate sub pixel rendering, want to take that up? | 20:47 |
| mamarley | Investigate it? | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | mamarley: https://trello.com/c/0tn1vYPN | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | mamarley: idk, that's what the card says :P | 20:48 |
| shadeslayer | I've been running the settinsg on that bug for a bit | 20:49 |
| shadeslayer | and I can't tell the difference | 20:49 |
| mamarley | Hmm... Just about everyone uses LCDs these days, so enabling it by default would probably make sense. | 20:49 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: That's a pretty ancient python there. | 20:50 |
| mamarley | There is, however, a "bug" in Qt that causes subpixel rendering to be disabled on just about any translucent surface (such as the KDE panel.) | 20:51 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I'd be surprised if they were running a new python on the wiki :P | 20:51 |
| ScottK | The last Ubuntu release that had python2.6 was lucid. | 20:51 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: heh, aren't all the buildd's running warty ;) | 20:52 |
| ScottK | Not anymore. | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | oh ? :D | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | Did that change recently? | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | phew, KDE integration patches apply cleanly | 20:53 |
| ScottK | For a long time the powerpc buildds ran dapper even after hardy was released. | 20:53 |
| ScottK | Other than that, sparc was the only one that substantially lagged. | 20:53 |
| ScottK | Generally they're running the last LTS. | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 20:56 |
| * shadeslayer heads home | 20:58 | |
| shadeslayer | cya tomorrow | 20:59 |
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| shadeslayer | ScottK: do you know where I could a migration guide for users so that they could import their KDE Bookmarks into Firefox? | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | *could put a | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-migration-guide | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | needs screenshots | 21:36 |
| Riddell | anyone able to review dpic and cirkuit in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages ? | 22:07 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: No. Sorry. | 22:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: did you use kubuntu-automation? | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please use fix committed when a change is in a VCS but not uploaded | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | otherwise we run risk of forgetting to upload | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please run by our docs heros | 22:39 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: not quite | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I was planning to do a upload tomorrow | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/psxhbeosr | 22:45 |
| soee_ | another more or less happy user https://plus.google.com/u/0/112543117923336622039/posts/CNiFeLCLRrg :) | 22:51 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: ahoneybun review plz https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-migration-guide | 22:54 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: I can tell you I don't have "keditbookmarks" | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | o_o | 22:57 |
| ahoneybun | without the quotes | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | your install sounds broken | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | because that comes from kde-baseapps-bin | 22:58 |
| ahoneybun | well if we will have firefox as default in 14.4 should we not just link/write about using firefox bookmark export/import usage? | 22:58 |
| ahoneybun | g2g | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | well, this is for people who use KDE software to manage their bookmarks | 23:00 |
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