[00:42] <jane_> hello i have a small problem.. i need the command to change or start a different desktop environment ... I changed it to LXgame or something and all i get is a black screen,, it does show my touchpad is disable in a notice but thats it.
[00:44] <Unit193> Log out, select the normal session.
[00:44] <jane_> cannot seem to logout
[00:44] <jane_> best i can do is get to the command line cltr alt f1 ectect
[00:45] <Unit193> DISPLAY=:0 lxsession-logout   and the screen should pop up.
[00:45] <Unit193> If not, killall lxsession
[00:45] <jane_> k will try
[00:48] <jane_> yes the second one did it the killall lxsession ty very very much
[00:48] <Unit193> 'Welcome.
[00:49] <jane_> so how would you use the LX game one??
[00:49] <jane_> i hit all the hotkey i could with of
[00:49] <Unit193> Don't know.
[00:50] <jane_> kk np
[00:56] <Unit193> You can inspect the lxsession settings for that session, stuff under /etc/xdg/ (but don't break it! :P )
[03:20] <Ahmuck> hi.  i've lost my menu option upper left hand corner in a application.  how do i get it back?
[03:21] <greeter_> is this in every application or one application specifically?
[03:22] <greeter_> sorry i mis-understood the issue... hmm i used alt + f3 when that happened to me, but i tried it just now without any luck :-S
[03:25] <Ahmuck> nm, i closed it and re-opened
[03:26] <ianorlin> whihc application?
[03:27] <greeter_> ah ok, glad you solved your problem :-)
[12:42] <thor480> upload .png where can i do that?
[12:43] <thor480> For showing in here
[12:45] <thor480> Have found it
[12:49] <thor480> phillw: Jullian have made a mistake in the Q ppa. He have made a deb for lxqt-about in lxqt-session but there is no deb for lxqt-session. Here is sreensave for it. http://s28.postimg.org/f760p6rbx/Sk_rmbillede_11_02_2014_13_30_10.png
[12:55] <phillw> thor480: I'll let him know
[12:55] <thor480> phillw: Thanks
[12:59] <phillw> thor480: for future reference, I use http://imagebin.org/ which is a handy temp area for screen shots
[13:01] <thor480> ok can you make link for it.like you have for pastebin in here
[13:21] <thor480> Unit193: Can you if possible make link for http://imagebin.org/ like you have pastbin in here
[13:21] <Unit193> !pastebin | thor480
[13:22] <thor480> Unit193: pastebin
[13:22] <Unit193> Link is in there.
[13:22] <thor480> Unit193: thanks
[13:23] <thor480> ubottu: i will give it a try
[13:24] <thor480> ubottu: i am stupid to
[13:52] <hide-san_> Hello
[13:53] <hide-san_> I just started Lubuntu 13 and would like to swap CTRL key and Caps Lock key.
[13:54] <hide-san_> However xmodmap does not work well. (the swap setup is reset after some actions. I cannot figured out the actions yet.
[13:54] <hide-san_> Anybody know how to swap capslock and ctrl key?
[14:03] <Greylocks> hide-san_: Have you tried changing them in rc.xml?
[14:05] <hide-san_> Hi Greylocks. No, I haven't.
[14:05] <hide-san_> Let me try. Could you give me any reference (web) if you have the link handy?
[14:10] <Greylocks> hide-san_:  This should help: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Configuration
[14:12] <hide-san_> Checking the page now.
[14:17] <hide-san_> Greylocks: Sorry I could not figure out what to do from the web.
[14:17] <hide-san_> The keyboard section has the link to http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Key_bindings
[14:18] <hide-san_> But this is to setup "short cut" by defining the linkage between "keys" and "action" (But not swap CTRL and CAPS_LOCK)
[14:18] <hide-san_> Would you tell me where to check on the web?
[14:21] <Greylocks> hide-san_: I figured that you could remap the keys in there...perhaps try a google search.
[14:23] <SLit> Hi! I have problem installing lubuntu on mac mini. At one point installer freezes and my screen stops to flash, filicker... Afther that I can't do nothing
[14:31] <SLit> Anybody?
[14:31] <Kriss3d> Hi everyone. Uhmm for some reason my Huawei E173 wont connect. any known issues ?
[14:31] <Kriss3d> Im using latest Lubuntu and tried serveral of those odd spanish driver packs that people suggest
[14:54] <phillw> SLit: it probably better to email the testing email list. That's where the MAC people hang out.
[14:55] <phillw> SLit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64 has further details and some useful links to follow.
[14:56] <phillw> Kriss3d: we share the same drivers as all of the *buntu familiy... let me have a dig for you.
[14:58] <phillw> Kriss3d: http://askubuntu.com/questions/179324/huawei-e173-on-ubuntu-12-04 has two solutions (I'd try the swapping the usb port 1st... I've had that one myself with huawei in the past)
[15:16] <SLit> @ phillw I tought maybe I could use aletranative cd. It looks like(maybe it isn't) that It is to demanding for mac mini from 2006
[15:19] <phillw> SLit: I don't have any experience with macs. There is a small team on the testing team. If you're emailing them please prefix the subject [PPC] so that they know it is for mac and not general query. the settings for graphics are dependeant on which graphics card you have installed (2 different solutions for 2 different makes). That is why we do not have one overall answer for graphics issues :/
[15:19] <SLit> Ok
[15:20] <SLit> I will try first with alletrantive cd, then I will e-mail
[15:21] <phillw> SLit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Configure_graphics has background on the graphics issues.
[15:23] <SLit> I don't have issues with graphics. Everythig looks ok. It just freezes at some point. I whent on Internet adn tryed
[15:23] <SLit> and then tried
[15:23] <SLit>  to load terminal, and may computer freezed
[15:24] <SLit> Also when I try to install
[15:24] <phillw> the video flashing seems to be a the cause of your freeze.
[15:24] <phillw> get the video to work and you may well find it installs fine.
[15:25] <SLit> Could be...
[15:25] <phillw> but, the guys on the mailing list are your best bet for help :)
[15:25] <SLit> Thank you man :-)
[17:55] <thor480> phillw: It`s just the name there is wrong. lxqt-about is really lxqt-session. I am running the lxqt desktop right now
[18:05] <phillw> okies
[20:31] <koell> hey phillw
[20:34] <phillw> hi koell
[20:57] <thor480> phillw: The name has been changes. So thanks
[21:08] <mrpl> Can I upgrade my 13.10 to 12.04.4 LTS by changing the repos and updating/upgrading ?...thanks
[21:16] <gomiboy> mrpl: no, you can't, you'll have to reinstall... or wait a couple months for 14.04 if you really want a LTS :)
[21:16] <ianorlin> no you cannot also lubuntu 12.04 wasn't a long term support release
[21:17] <gomiboy> plus ianorlin is right :D
[21:18] <mrpl> I'll wait....13.10 dosn't expire til july I believe
[21:19] <mrpl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:20] <mrpl> I  thionk 12.04  is LTS with the 12.04.4 update
[21:21] <gomiboy> ubuntu 12.04 is LTS, but *lubuntu* 12.04  is not... i can't even remember why, but that's it
[21:22] <mrpl> oh...I forgot that rumor....
[21:22] <phillw> thor480: yes, it was a more of a typo as he was rushing :)
[21:23] <phillw> gomiboy: 2 reasons why lubuntu 12.04 is not lts... 1) we lacked man power 2) we were not permitted it be lts even if he had man power :)
[21:23] <phillw> s/he/we
[21:23] <mrpl> not permitted ?
[21:24] <phillw> you need to have 2 releases before you can have lts. 12.04 was our 2nd release and thus not elligible to be lts
[21:25] <mrpl> maybe 14.04 then ?
[21:25] <phillw> 14.04 IS to be LTS :)
[21:25] <mrpl> if manpower permits?
[21:25] <phillw> that is why it is purely a bug fix of 13.10 (our stable beta of 14,04).
[21:27] <thor480> phillw: :-D
[21:27] <gomiboy> mrpl: if you can't wait there is http://lxle.net/ but don't come here asking for help then, it's absolutely unofficial ;)
[21:28] <phillw> have a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/14.04
[21:28] <mrpl> I've been tunning a full install of 13.10 on a 32 gb partioned multiboot micro sd card since October 2013
[21:29] <mrpl> to see how long til the write back wear and tear slows me down, so far so good
[21:29] <phillw> I've been on 14.04 since before Christmas as my production machine to thoroughly soak test it ready for LTS.... It's bomb proof :D
[21:30] <mrpl> Our first LTS nice
[21:30] <ianorlin> I installed it on an external hard drive on new years day
[21:31] <mrpl> 2.5 " in a case ?
[21:33] <ianorlin> yeah got two of them for my birthday last year
[21:33] <mrpl> that's pretty ok
[21:36] <mrpl> I have a hdd-less laptop so use the boot from portable device, the smaller in size the better
[21:37] <mrpl> lubuntu runs the best from a full install , better than mint lxde ,crunchbang