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ruben231hi guys...any idea how to install Ubuntu desktop on 50 desktop unit on one time only..? any idea..?01:23
sarnoldruben231: investigate 'preseed files'01:26
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ompsHi all01:45
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usr13To switch from ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server, you'd just uninstall ubuntu-desktop.  Right?05:16
usr13(After you edit /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" and then run sudo update-grub  Which will do away with GUI.)05:17
usr13sudo service lightdm stop  and do  ^^^^^  and then sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop05:18
usr13Does that sound ok?05:18
TJ-usr13: you don't need to remove "quiet splash" but it can help. "splash" is the trigger for the plymouth splash screen, "quiet" reduces the verbosity of the kernel messages05:19
shreezbotI removed quiet splash and changed it to text and that worked well...05:20
usr13TJ-: Ok.. so change "quiet splash"  to   "quiet text" ?05:20
usr13TJ-: Is that what you recommend?05:20
TJ-usr13: On servers I replace "quiet" with "debug" since I want to see as much as possible at boot-time05:20
usr13ok   "debug text"  ?05:21
TJ-usr13: I don't usually add "text" because if the VGA adapter is capable enough, I have it switch to a high-res graphics mode to get more text on-screen05:21
usr13Oh, so all you need is "debug"05:21
TJ-usr13: yeah, not need either, its just helpful if/when something goes wrong to see as much as possible05:22
usr13Ok then, it would be sufficient to just remove  "quiet splash" ?05:23
TJ-usr13: :) yes, as I said, its not necessary more a question of personal preference05:23
usr13Yea, ok.  Thanks for the info...05:24
shreezbotCrap, when I change it to "debug" the damn login screen comes up....  :(05:24
shreezbotIf I have it at "text" it goes to the console...05:24
TJ-shreezbot: It will, if you've got lightdm installed and enabled05:25
usr13shreezbot: Well, you have yet to uninstall ubuntu-desktop05:25
usr13shreezbot: Right?05:25
usr13Oh yea, you'd need to dissable lightdm.  Or uninstall it...05:25
shreezbotusr13, Correct, I haven't uninstalled ubuntu-desktop yet...05:25
TJ-"text" disables lightdm05:25
usr13Yea that's what I thought.05:25
shreezbotAHH!05:25
shreezbotTJ-, So I can just uninstall lightdm?05:26
shreezbotDo I need to uninstall ubunut-desktop also?05:26
TJ-shreezbot: You don't need to, just override it05:27
usr13TJ-: Yea, but he no longer needs any of it... right?05:27
usr13So why not uninstall it.....?05:27
usr13TJ-: I'm try9ing to think.... what is the scipt that starts all the GUI stuff?05:29
usr13What's the name of it...?05:29
TJ-usr13: "sudo service lightdm start"05:29
usr13well yea,   sudo service lightdm stop  will dissable it, but only for one session.  Right?05:31
TJ-yes05:31
usr13It must be  /etc/init/lightdm.conf  that I'm thinking of... ?05:31
usr13no, that's not it...05:32
TJ-to disable services you'd do "sudo update-rc.d lightdm disable"05:32
shreezbotTJ-, So when I configure grub to just use debug, when my server starts up, should I eventually get a console prompt?05:33
shreezbotTJ-, It currently just sits there at "Stopping Mount filesystems on boot"...05:33
shreezbotTJ-, I'm able to SSH into the server just fine though and do everything I need to do and all of my applications have started up correctly.05:33
TJ-shreezbot: Yes, it sounds as it the getty jobs aren't starting the ttys05:34
shreezbotTJ-, Weird...  It started doing that after I removed lightdm...  :(05:36
TJ-shreezbot: check the /etc/init/tty{1..6}.conf scripts exist05:39
shreezbotTJ-, Should GRUB_TERMINAL=console be uncommented in my /etc/default/grub?05:40
TJ-shreezbot: the only other thing I can think of, is the kernel command-line's "vt-handoff..." option and plymouth splash screen stay on VT7. In which case pressing Alt+F1 should get you to the login on tty105:40
usr13Seems to me that it would be a lot easier to uninstall some stuff, particularly ubuntu-desktop05:41
usr13I just found this:  http://www.darrinhodges.com/converting-ubuntu-12-04-lts-desktop-to-server/05:41
usr13If you are permanently moving to server, uninstalling the packages that are no longer needed just seems like the thing to do.05:42
shreezbotSWEET!05:43
shreezbotusr13, I've looked everywhere for instructions like that...  :)05:44
usr13Well, there you go....05:44
usr13(My google-foo is working...)05:44
usr13shreezbot: And set to "static IP and remove that pesky network-manager as well"05:48
shreezbotusr, this damn thing is going to be a server yet!  :)05:48
usr13Of course, if you have a router giving it a static lease, you only need to uninstall network-manager.05:49
usr13because dhcp is default.  At any rate, from now on, just use the config file /etc/network/interfaces for network configurations05:50
usr13http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/05:51
usr13Better one:  https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration05:52
shreezbotI get a message about "login:  mounall:  Disconnected from Plymouth" and no console....  :(05:57
shreezbotI'm able to "CTRL+ALT+F2" to swap to tty2 and so on, but tty1 is hung up...  :(05:58
TJ-shreezbot: ahhh, that is interesting05:59
shreezbotTJ-, Tell me about it.06:00
TJ-shreezbot: "ps -efly | grep tty1"06:02
shreezbotTJ-, It says it is running06:05
shreezbot/sbin/getty/ -8 38400 tty106:06
TJ-shreezbot: "grep DELAYLOGIN /etc/default/rcS"06:15
shreezbot=no06:15
shreezbotShit, I broke my network removing the network-manager...  I'm wondering if that could be the problem...06:16
shreezbotand of course I can't re-install the network-manager because I can't connect to the internet...  :(06:19
shreezbotI maybe should have done that...06:20
shreezbotshouldn't06:20
TJ-shreezbot: The packages should still be in "/var/cache/apt/archive" so you can simply "sudo apt-get install network-manager"06:20
shreezbotTJ-, I'm an idiot, so I purged them...  :(06:21
shreezbotLooks like I can't get an IPv4 address for some reason...06:23
TJ-shreezbot: You'll have to do it manually then "sudo ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0" "sudo ip route add default dev eth0" and then add a DNS nameserver entry to /etc/rsolv.conf06:24
TJ-shreezbot: How are you doing it? "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" then "sudo dhclient eth0&"06:25
shreezbotI edited /etc/network/interfaces06:26
shreezbotlol, I'm so fucking dumb sometimes06:26
shreezbotI did a sudo -i not realizing that it changed my working directory to root06:26
shreezbotSo I created a file called interfaces there, which needless to say did fuck-all when I attempted to bring up the interface...06:27
shreezbotWell, that wasn't it though...  It still isn't getting an IPv4 address...  :(06:29
shreezbotOk, I got it working now...06:33
shreezbotIncidentally, that fixed my stupid "Disconnected from Plymouth" as well!  :)06:33
shreezbotSometimes I just have to fumble my way through...  :)06:34
sarnoldshreezbot: if you just want NM back, you can probably dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/something..06:34
shreezbotsarnold, I actually don't mind it being gone now that I know how to properly configure /etc/network/interfaces...  :)06:35
sarnoldshreezbot: excellent :D06:35
shreezbotsarnold, Yea, I'm super stoked now that I've converted this desktop installation to server...06:35
shreezbotBeen wanting a way to do that for a long time now...  :)06:35
TJ-sarnold: if it's in /var/cache/apt/archive/ then you can use apt-get (which will resolve dependencies)06:36
sarnoldTJ-: that's nice but if the network is down, fixing the rest of it just to get it back could be a hassle06:36
sarnoldof course, in server land, life without NM is probably the best way forward anyway :)06:36
shreezbotsarnold, Yep!  That's what I'm working toward...  This is a learning experience for me, so mission accomplished tonight!  :)06:37
shreezbotI've learned about 30 new things tonight!  :)06:37
sarnoldhaha, nice :)06:37
shreezbotI'll say, you guys are amazingly helpful...  :)06:39
sarnoldTJ-: nice work :)06:39
shreezbotSo what do you guys recommend for monitoring Ubuntu?06:40
shreezbotMostly for thinks like CPU utilization, memory utilization and things like that...06:40
sarnoldsetting up something like that has been on my todo list for ages. there's 'statistics' things like collectd and .. munin? and then there's service alerting things like nagios / icinga, shinken, and I just found out about assimilation project a few weeks back that looks pretty cool06:42
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ruben23hi guys i have 50 PC and we would liek to install desktop ubuntu on it any solutions to install it on network at the same time..? any idea..?08:25
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ruben23hi guys need help, just freshly install ubuntu server 12.04 LTS ----> http://pastebin.com/T2wbCMyn <--------------i get this error when i update09:08
ruben23any help..?09:08
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TJ-ruben check the contents of the downloaded .gpg files, they're stored in /var/lib/apt/lists/ ... I bet you'll find they contain some HTTP proxy/cache message rather than the GPG signatures they should contain09:11
ruben23TJ- what to do next..? after checking09:13
ruben23this is the content --> http://pastebin.com/TKpBQeZz09:14
TJ-ruben23: if the files contain bad data, fix the proxy/cache that is giving out that data09:14
TJ-ruben23: You'll need to look *inside* those gpg files to see if they have valid contents. The "file" utility will help you there09:15
ruben23http://pastebin.com/Ts9aEpZZ <----------------------my gpg file09:19
TJ-ruben23: So now fix it09:20
ruben23TJ-:  i tried putting it into DMZ on my router stil the same..any idea how to fix..?09:22
TJ-Use the information from the server that is saved into those files09:23
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ruben23 TJ-: it ok now09:49
ruben23thanks09:49
wellyHello all. I've got an internal dev server which has been set up with public key authentication for ssh and password authentication disabled. I've edited sshd_config to disable public key authentication and enable password authentication but so far, no luck in logging in with a password. Am I missing something?10:09
wellyah ha. it works now10:10
welly:D10:10
rbasakzul, hallyn: are you aware of the libvirt FTBFS ATM? I have a trivial patch for libvirt; do you mind uploading it at the same time, please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6914206/10:10
rknolhello there friends11:13
rknoli've come across a rather unfortunate situation i'm afraid11:13
rknoli don't know anything about the history of this server, i didn't set it up11:14
rknolbut i'm getting this error:11:14
rknolhttps://dpaste.de/O26t11:14
martisjmorning11:31
dimiternI'm not sure if it's the right place to ask, but I have a bug to fix in juju-core https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1240667, which includes setting a lower priority on the cloud-tools pocket during bootstrap, and then using --target-release with apt-get install to specify the exact archive to use (i.e. cloud-tools, not main)11:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1240667 in juju-core "Version of django in cloud-tools conflicts with horizon:grizzly" [Critical,In progress]11:32
dimiternso the question is: what's the expected --target-release value format for cloud-tools? "precise-updates/cloud-tools" ?11:32
dimiterni figured someone with more in-depth apt experience might know11:33
cfhowlett!cloud11:33
ubottuUbuntu Cloud Infrastructure is a ready to deploy Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS) based on OpenStack. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure for further details.11:33
martisjis sftp enabled by default with openssh?11:42
mardraummartisj: with openssh-server, yes11:57
martisjmardraum: I see.11:58
martisjI can't seem to wrap my head around how to setup access via sftp to the apache document root and then have those files be accessible from www-data11:58
martisjIt should be trivial and I should know how to do this, but I don't :S11:59
mardraumpoint apache and your user's home at the same place?11:59
mardraumor just use cd commands to move around11:59
mardraumsftp in, cd /12:00
mardraumyou are at root.12:00
mardraumthere are many ways you could do it, even a symlink12:01
mardraumas for "www-data" sounds like you are struggling with permissions?12:02
martisjmardraum: yes permissions indeed12:09
martisjls -al shows that the user and group is the same as my username and group12:09
martisjdemo:demo12:09
martisjwhere demo is my username12:09
dimiternany server guys available?12:54
ikoniajust ask the question13:03
dimiternI asked some time ago13:04
dimiternikonia, the question is: what's the expected apt-get install --target-release value format, so it will pick packages from the cloud-tools pocket, rather than main?13:05
ikoniasorry, I don't know the answer13:05
dimiternikonia, ok, sorry then13:06
ikoniano need for sorry, I just don't know the answer13:06
rbasakdimitern: it should be automatic, since versions in the cloud-tools pocket are higher than the versions in main. I think. Do you have a specific example where this is not working?13:16
dimiternrbasak, yes, that's exactly the issue with bug 124066713:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1240667 in juju-core "Version of django in cloud-tools conflicts with horizon:grizzly" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124066713:18
dimiternrbasak, so I need to add cloud-tools with lower priority and redo all apt-get install commands in cloudinit to use --target-series "precise-updates/cloud-tools"13:19
dimiternrbasak, so we won't mess with charms deployed on the same machine and trying to install packages from main, but now getting them from cloud-tools instead (i.e. django as described)13:20
rbasakdimitern: I was unaware of that bug - thanks.13:22
rbasakdimitern: so --target-series "precise-updates/cloud-tools" doesn't work?13:23
dimiternrbasak, yeah, it's somewhat recent and came up when people started complaining openstack horizon is not working when deployed on machine 0 (on askubuntu.com)13:24
dimiternrbasak, haven't reached that point, still writing the fix, it should work13:24
* rbasak wonders if lxc and mongodb could specifically be put in precise-backports or something.13:25
ruben231hi guys13:51
martisjHOw in the name of god do i upload files with sftp to apache docroot13:51
martisjwhile still having the files owned by www-data13:52
shreddingI start a service like service "service solr start", which starts solr as daemon. But i want to see it's output.13:54
shreddingIs there a flag or so, to not-start-as-daemon?13:54
rbasakmartisj: easiest to focus on groups instead. Look up the directory sgid bit.13:58
rbasakshredding: it's service-dependent. Look in /etc/init/solr.conf for what it does currently, and maybe at the solr manpage for how to change it. For debugging, it's often possible to run a daemon manually without going into the background, but that depends on the daemon.13:59
shreddingrbasak: thx13:59
martisjrbasak: i'll look into it13:59
martisjI keep getting permission denied public key,apssword14:08
martisjit's the most diffuse message14:08
martisjmost frustrating indeed14:08
shreddingrbasak: Hm, it did not work, there is no solr.conf and the solr file itself is weird.14:22
shreddingI'm going to complain to the guy who set up the vagrant box.14:23
rbasakshredding: oh, it must be a SysV script then. Try /etc/init.d/solr14:23
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hallynrbasak: hm, that's not libvirtd, but every kvm vm that will have access to every uvtool backend.14:59
hallynoh, no, nm :)15:00
hallynlooks good, thx.15:00
hallynzul: are you fixing up the ftbfs?  (comes from the nwfilter patch)15:00
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xerxasanyone using ubuntu cloud images ?16:00
xerxasthe disk seems to be 4 GB which is pretty small16:00
xerxaswith virtualbox, disk are (or can be) COW16:02
xerxasand the documentation states it: http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/boxes/base.html : "When creating a base box, make sure the user will have enough disk space to do interesting things, without being annoying. For example, in VirtualBox, you should create a dynamically resizing drive with a large maximum size."16:02
xerxasutlemming: would it be possible to raise the disk size of vagrant boxes ?16:02
xerxasutlemming: should I create on issue on launchpad ?16:02
caribouany server meeting today ?16:06
arosalescaribou, I was thinking the same thing16:08
caribouarosales: great minds... :)16:08
arosalesadam_g, is listed as the chair16:08
arosalesjamespage, smoser ^16:08
arosalesper https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting16:09
smoseri'm not really here, sorry.16:09
smoser:-(16:09
smoserhave to run.16:09
smbGuess that is a no...16:13
smb:)16:13
thesheff17can anyone quickly let me know what the backup user does on ubuntu-server17:03
rbasakthesheff17: not much, I don't think. The user is part of the base system. Perhaps something minor uses it; I don't know.17:05
thesheff17rbasak: yea its weird my data center just called me...logged onto the server and the backup user was running tons of weird crap like httpd17:06
thesheff17the only exposed service is ssh17:06
rbasakthesheff17: sounds like your server might be compromised.17:06
thesheff17rbasak: yea :-/17:07
BrixSathello17:23
BrixSatim making a ssh server1 "tail -f /var/log/apache/error.log" >> /tmp/error.log17:24
BrixSatbut this keeps hanging when network flaps, is there a way to make it die when network flaps, so i can make a watchdog in cron17:25
rbasakjamespage: I just looked at bug 1243076. AFAICT, upstream is dead, Debian is dead, and the code is fundamentally not ported to the Apache 2.4 API. OK to just drop the package (it's in main)?17:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1243076 in mod-auth-mysql "libapache2-mod-auth-mysql is missing in 13.10 amd64" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124307617:30
jamespagerbasak, I would say so yes17:31
rbasakOK thanks. I'll explain on the bug. It seems that many people think that it's required for a LAMP stack because they're cargo culting some instructions that install it for no useful purpose.17:31
xerxasutlemming: just in case you see that here, I just created this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/127898917:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1278989 in ubuntu "vagrant cloud images disk is too small" [Undecided,New]17:35
smoserxerxas, you can just grow it.17:35
xerxasubuntu cloud images are not a package, and I cannot asign it to you ...17:35
xerxassmoser: with ext2resize ?17:36
xerxassmoser: that's not the way other boxes works ...17:36
smoserdo whatever operation you would do in virtual-box to make the disk bigger "physically" (ie, add 10G of zeros to it)17:36
smoserand cloud-init will resize the root partition to take it.17:36
smoserthats how things "should" work.17:36
xerxassmoser:  these are vagrant boxes, it's supposed to abstract the use of virtualbox17:36
smoseryou'd rather people deliver you gigabytes of zeros ?17:36
xerxassmoser: when you export vagrant base boxes they are supposed to grow17:37
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smoserheres the basic problem17:37
smoserno matter what size utlemming thinks is "big enough".17:37
smoserfor some work load its not going to be big enough17:37
xerxassmoser:  and no, I don't want people to download Gigs of zeroes, virtualbox manages the copy-on-write , it's written in vagrant docs, and commented in my issue17:38
xerxassmoser: yes , but I used a lot of different boxes and all boxes generally built are 10 or 40 gigs17:38
smoserso the better solution than making a box larger is to fix vagrant17:38
xerxassmoser:  I'm not going to fix vagrant, and in the meantime, as we already deliver 4 gb boxes that are files that takes ~ 300 MB , we can easily grow to 10 Gb like most of people do17:39
smoservagrant needs to know how to grow disks.17:39
xerxasor, we just can shrink the space de 300 MB17:39
xerxassmoser: no it doesn't, virtualbox does it17:39
smoservirtualbox certainly can do that.17:40
RoyKxerxas: do you mean resize2fs?17:40
smoservagrant needs to learn how to tell virtualbox to do it.17:40
smoserits the equivalent of:17:40
xerxasRoyK:  no , virtualbox does it , you create a 10 Gb filesystem17:40
smoser qemu-image resize my.img 100G17:40
smoserthen magic is in place the rest of the way to do the right thing.17:40
xerxasbut It's just using the needed space on your disk17:40
smoservagrant is the thing that is missing function here.17:40
xerxasdon't know how virutalbox does it though17:40
xerxasbut this is something I saw a lot of time17:40
smoserEC2, openstack, cloud-X, cloud-Y, .... all have this.17:40
xerxasI have some contribution on vagrant (I think, small ones) and I'm using it for 2 years ...17:41
smoseryou just add zeros to the end of the disk.17:41
xerxassmoser: gotta go , but I'll come back to you, or , can you comment the issue ?17:41
xerxasI'm left, I'm late !17:41
xerxasthanks!17:41
RoyKxerxas: k17:42
MaddethHey all, having an issue with NFS, anyone able to help?18:07
Maddethmount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'server:/directory' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered18:08
sarnoldMaddeth: iirc, nfs requires an rpcbind daemon or similar on both client and server18:09
Maddethsarnold: they both do, this is after a load of issues over the weekend, they worked before18:10
sarnoldMaddeth: hrm. are there any new firewall rules on either machine or routers between?18:11
Maddethon other servers I have just done /etc/init.d/nfs restart and that has cleared the same problems as shown here : http://www.whynix.com/2012/11/06/349/how-to-fix-mount-to-nfs-server-system-failed-rpc-error-program-not-registered/18:12
Maddethsarnold: nothing has been changed, and I can ping between the servers, no issues with DNS either18:12
sarnoldMaddeth: is it exportfs that shows you which filesystems are exported? (sorry, it's been a decade..)18:13
Maddethbut, there is no nfs inid.d file, only nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server, sarnold also, the server is showing up in exportfs on the server I am tring to mount from18:15
sarnoldMaddeth: how the nfs server is started is different from distribution to distribution18:16
sarnoldMaddeth: nfs-kernel-server kicks off the kernel thread that does the nfs server work. maybe stop it and the nfs-common, then restart them both again?18:17
Maddethsarnold: have tried that a few times unfortunately, also bounced the server a number of times today18:18
sarnoldMaddeth :(18:19
Maddethsarnold: not been a fun week :) this is just the tail end of a shed load of issues I had over the weekend18:20
sarnoldMaddeth: cripes and it's only tuesday.18:21
sarnoldMaddeth: is there anything in dmesg or other logs?18:21
Maddethsarnold: replaced some switches, iSCSI dropped and we lost a raid disk, about 100 servers needed thier disks repairing18:21
Maddethsarnold: not anything useful18:21
sarnoldMaddeth eek. bad weekend indeed.18:21
sarnold:(18:21
Maddethworked 10 - 3am Sunday, was in again at 7:20 on monday to fix more issues18:22
Maddethas in 10am - 3am18:22
Maddethsarnold: nearing the point where I give up and rebuild from scratch, need to update all out 10.04 servers anyway...18:24
sarnoldMaddeth: yeah at some point you've got to do what it takes to move things along. :/18:25
sarnoldMaddeth: before you do, it might be best to file a bug against nfs or linux, it might yet be something that can be found and fixed, even if not on a timeframe that's useful to you18:25
Maddethsarnold: been 5 hours at this already :) would have probably been faster to rebuild from the start18:26
sarnoldMaddeth: yeah, if only you'd known it was going to be a fight..18:26
Maddethsarnold: thanks for the help though18:27
sarnoldMaddeth: good luck18:28
Maddethsarnold: I got it working19:35
sarnoldMaddeth: oh? what was it?? :)19:35
Maddethnfs on the other server needed a restart -.-19:35
sarnoldnfs on a -third- machine needed to be restarted?19:35
Maddethsarnold: spent 6 hours looking at the wrong server :)19:35
sarnoldMaddeth: ah!19:36
Maddethsarnold: thought I would let you know :)19:36
sarnoldMaddeth: an easy mistake to make after spending 18 hours working under pressure :)19:36
Maddethtrue19:36
Maddethstill a tiny bit annoyed at myself19:36
sarnoldMaddeth: thanks for the update :) now time to curl up under the desk and unplug the phone for a while, hehe19:36
Maddethhaha19:37
Maddethsarnold: if only, got 20 servers that the backup's are failing now :)19:37
sarnoldMaddeth: oh jeeze. what a week. good luck!19:37
Maddethsarnold: it's all ok, last night for 4 days ;)19:37
Maddethsarnold: it's the other guys problem tomorrow!19:38
sarnoldMaddeth: woo!19:38
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sarthorHi, Is there any easyway to connect ubuntu / machine with gui to openvpn? on the server there is pfsense, and it only export client for windows23:18

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