[00:27] <greg-g> another day, another outage report
[00:27] <greg-g> I know why Opsen tend to be drunkards now
[00:27] <greg-g> I was looking around for a beer around 12:30 today
[00:34] <rick_h_> lol
[00:55] <gamerchick02> nice.
[01:17] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ thanks for the nice comment on my keyboard post. :)
[01:18] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: hey, if anyone can appreciate someone appreciating good hardware
[01:18] <gamerchick02> :)
[01:18] <gamerchick02> have you tried a Max Keyboard?
[01:18] <gamerchick02> and i really really like the Browns.
[01:18] <rick_h_> nope, but I've tried many
[01:19] <rick_h_> that's cool, many people do love the brows
[01:19] <rick_h_> browns
[01:19] <gamerchick02> i *might* get a Ducky for work but i fear it being stolen. :(
[01:19] <rick_h_> ah, that's not fun
[01:19] <gamerchick02> true
[01:19] <gamerchick02> what do you recommend for a close office situation?
[01:19] <gamerchick02> browns with o-rings on them?
[01:19] <rick_h_> I'm not a good person to ask. I've not had to worry about that
[01:20] <gamerchick02> ah
[01:20] <rick_h_> so I just used browns and made people suffer
[01:20] <rick_h_> that was after I use buckling springs for a while
[01:20] <gamerchick02> i usually don't but there are 3 people sitting in my cube and right over the wall is my boss
[01:20] <rick_h_> and someone finally commented on it
[01:20] <gamerchick02> hah
[01:20] <rick_h_> but I've been home-only for a while so I don't even hear it any more
[01:20] <gamerchick02> ah
[01:21] <gamerchick02> well i love the browns. i like the initial actuation of the blue but without the CLACK you get when you bottom
[01:21] <gamerchick02> it's more like a bump
[01:21] <gamerchick02> click-bump instead of click-CLACK
[01:21] <rick_h_> yea, I'm a big fan of loud. Though I've been on the kenisis for a while which is more quiet
[01:21] <gamerchick02> but dang if my HP board at work doesn't feel like typing on a mashed potato
[01:22] <rick_h_> yea, once you get a good keyboard you start to get picky about laptops, etc
[01:22] <gamerchick02> i am a fan of loud too but i wanted smaller and less… gaudy
[01:22] <rick_h_> I'd find myself getting double letters and such using junk keyboards
[01:22] <gamerchick02> Razer is gaudy
[01:22] <rick_h_> yea, I'm with you. Mine are all plain
[01:22] <gamerchick02> I mistype all the time on the one at work
[01:23] <gamerchick02> i will say… and i might get smacked for it… but the macbook air keyboard is nice.
[01:23] <gamerchick02> good spacing, good actuation, and they feel nice.
[01:23] <rick_h_> yea, best laptops keyboards are thinkpad (though it might be past tense :/) and apples I think
[01:23] <gamerchick02> *nods*
[01:24] <gamerchick02> i made a good choice on this laptop. i don't think i'll go anything else right now
[01:24] <gamerchick02> for mobile laptop computing. it's no hassle. and i want no hassle for a laptop. i'l muck with the desktop but i want no effort for a laptop
[01:24] <gamerchick02> :)
[01:24] <gamerchick02> i'm getting old. don't mind me
[01:48] <smoser> hm...
[01:48] <smoser> not that i'm writing my talk for tomorrow's mug right now or anything
[01:49] <waf> shame on you. i'm definitely not doing the same thing right now.
[01:50] <smoser> but anyone have notes on the tool that widox (i think) used for creating slides. from (i think) latex
[01:50] <smoser> hm.. or maybe not widox,. maybe waf.
[01:50] <waf> yeah, that was me. one sec
[01:50] <waf> https://github.com/waf/latex-presentation
[01:50] <gamerchick02> i would like to attend MUG sometime but it's on the same night as my Nile meeting.
[01:50] <waf> written in beamer
[01:51] <gamerchick02> and i can't be in two places at the same time.
[01:53] <smoser> waf, other than being so "backslashy", https://github.com/waf/latex-presentation/blob/master/presentation.tex is really nice.
[01:53] <smoser> where do the src/*.tex files come from ?
[01:54] <waf> smoser: it comes from the pygments tool, 'pygmentize'. one of the output formats is latex
[01:55] <waf> http://pygments.org/docs/formatters/#LatexFormatter
[01:56] <waf> for the "src/*.tex" files, the file "foo.tex" is handwritten, and the file "foo_syntax.tex" is the result of running "foo.tex" through pygmentize with the LaTeX formatter
[01:57] <smoser> ok. thanks.
[02:01] <rick_h_> smoser: you've got it set. You can just use the blog series that stephan has been doing
[02:01] <rick_h_> smoser: I loved the chrome from lxc one today
[02:43] <cmaloney> Good evening
[10:40] <wolfger> Good morning
[10:41] <wolfger> What, too early?
[10:47] <rick_h_> morning
[10:47] <rick_h_> heh, I'm still adjusting time zones
[10:47] <rick_h_> up at 5
[10:47] <rick_h_> but yea, most people still not around
[13:12] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:15] <rick_h_> party
[15:27] <wolfger> party hardy
[16:30] <greg-g> "Bitcoin is boring because it's just dudes hoarding making false scarcity. Not a useful currency. It's beanie babies."
[16:31] <wolfger> Hah!
[16:58] <brousch> rick_h_: Do you have a rick_h_-approved roof rake?
[16:59] <jrwren> i like that analysis of bitcoin
[16:59] <greg-g> rick_h_ should work for Consumer Reports, have a column: "Rick Approved"
[16:59] <brousch> greg-g: That's a good retirement plan
[16:59] <greg-g> :)
[17:02] <brousch> Why is there no roof roomba?
[17:05] <greg-g> jrwren: yeah, a buddy who has a protected twitter account tweeted it, I couldn't retweet (easily) so I copy/pasted here :)
[17:05] <jrwren> wtf is the point of a private twitter acct?
[17:16] <cmaloney> nfc
[17:22] <greg-g> people like sharing with smaller groups, it's kind of normal sometimes :)
[17:24] <cmaloney> Yeah, but I wonder if people expect it to be between their mouth to God's ears and nobody in-between
[17:24] <cmaloney> greg-g: I love the beanie-babies analogy.
[18:01] <wolfger> jrwren: "wtf is the point of a twitter acct?" <- I fixed that for you. :-)
[18:01] <jrwren> oh wolfger
[18:01] <jrwren> the point is the same as being on an IRC channel.
[18:01] <wolfger> I used to be an avid user, then I stopped, then I went back to Twitter and was like "what purpose did this ever serve?"
[18:03] <wolfger> IRC is good for conversing. Twitter pretty much sucks at it. (I was once upon a time going to write a Twitter client that simulated IRC, with hashtags being separate channels)
[18:11] <cmaloney> Twitter is terrible for conversations.
[18:11] <rick_h_> it's good for quick one/two
[18:12] <rick_h_> "here's a pic of my X" "oh, how do you like the X"
[18:12]  * greg-g nods
[18:12] <cmaloney> "@bonehead212: And that's precisely why I don't tell the pharmacy joke"
[18:27] <jrwren> wolfger: you are following the wrong peeps then :p
[18:30] <cmaloney> jrwren: I used to think Twitter's problems were ones of curation
[18:31] <cmaloney> but honestly the more I use G+ and pump.io I'm thinking the 140 character is great for broadcasting ideas but terrible for conversation.
[18:32] <cmaloney> and it's especially easy for folks to talk past one-another and generate noise.
[18:33] <jrwren> i just unfollow those people;
[18:33] <jrwren> honestly, I agree with you, but by unfollowing the folks who don't understand the comm medium, I get more value
[18:34] <cmaloney> maybe that's the best approach
[19:09] <wolfger> Twitter is like IRC if I only saw the things that 15% of the room types
[19:09] <wolfger> Because I don't follow the entire world
[19:11] <wolfger> so if cmaloney strikes up a conversation with, say, waf, then it's going to be like I'm in the room with a friend who's on the phone with a total stranger. Nobody likes that.
[19:14] <cmaloney> .@wolfger  You should have smelled that one coming a mile away
[19:14] <wolfger> and when did snapl become cmaloney, anyway? I thought his new name was Calamine Orgy
[19:15] <wolfger> (for those who don't get the reference: http://decafbad.net/2013/08/16/for-future-reference/ )
[19:15] <cmaloney> my analog rice to you, good sir
[19:16] <wolfger> I think those are good after-dark and before-dark Penguicon names :-D
[19:17] <cmaloney> hah
[19:18] <wolfger> My Penguicon name would be Erg Flow
[19:51] <jrwren> this is my daily "setuptools is infuriating" message :)
[19:52] <rick_h_> jrwren: :)
[20:02] <jrwren> i got through it, its just not intuitive.
[20:02] <cmaloney> it's only infuriating if you misuse it. ;)
[20:02] <jrwren> http://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/setuptools.html  this is my bible
[20:02] <jrwren> in this case it was dead simple, not doing the stupid complex stuff I was a few weeks ago
[23:54] <cmaloney> #mugorg meeting happening now
[23:54] <cmaloney> ;)