[00:00] <ometzit> i only use ubuntu when bioinformatics become overwhelmly tricky for web servers
[00:00] <daniel5940> ok that sounds good.  i dont think either one of them are pentium4 lvl but they are at least the equivelant to P3
[00:00] <usr13> !dual-boot | daniel5940
[00:01] <usr13> daniel5940: For a low end PC you should consider lubuntu or xubuntu
[00:01] <usr13> daniel5940: http://xubuntu.org/
[00:01] <daniel5940> i think lubuntu is what I originally was looking at lol
[00:02] <usr13> daniel5940: Very good...  (my preference is xubuntu, it's what I use)
[00:02] <usr13> daniel5940: But, you are on the right track.
[00:02] <usr13> daniel5940: xubuntu and lubuntu also have smaller footprint
[00:03] <usr13> daniel5940: lubuntu being slightly smaller of the two...
[00:03] <daniel5940> adress for it lol?  remember, I may be used to rebuilding computers, but in regards to os I am still a very large and ripe cherry outsid eof windows
[00:04] <usr13> daniel5940: Can you re-phrase your question?
[00:04] <usr13> "adress"?
[00:04] <usr13> "a dress"?  or ___________?
[00:05] <usr13> daniel5940: Are you asking for a URL?
[00:06] <daniel5940> do you have a web address for xubutu
[00:06] <usr13> http://xubuntu.org/
[00:06] <greeter> well i have an odd question...
[00:07] <usr13> Then we have an old answer...
[00:07] <greeter> i have to replace my hard drive because it's dying, and i'm trying to make backups of the important files. i don't have a usb drive, can i use an mp3 player instead?
[00:07] <usr13> greeter: Is it still in running condition?
[00:08] <greeter> i'm running off of the drive right now yes, but it's developing an increasing number of bad sectors, so i want to move before something catastrophic happens
[00:09] <compdoc> if you can mount the mp3 player, maybe
[00:10] <compdoc> run to the store and get a usb stick
[00:10] <greeter> yes, mounted it. it seems alright to work with
[00:10] <daniel5940> usr13...  Thank You for the help.  I think i will try xubuntu out
[00:10] <greeter> eh... i don't have money for one (pathetic i know). this whole job really is a hack, but i don't want to lose anything important
[00:11] <usr13> greeter: Basically, if you can mount and write to it, yes.  Something like:  gzip < /dev/sda > /mnt/point/here/backup-image.gz
[00:11] <usr13> daniel5940: GO for it!  :)
[00:11] <greeter> ok that's good... i plan to create a backup in the cloud too, but i've had problems in the past doing that, so i want a second backup just in case
[00:13] <usr13> greeter: Or cp -ar /home/greeter/  /mnt/point/here/
[00:13] <JohnnyL> is there a way to automagically install dependencies for a dpkg package? the main app my program uses is cgroup.
[00:13] <usr13> greeter: (You more-than-likely only want what is in /home/greeter/
[00:13] <greeter> there's a build deps option in apt-get i believe which might work for you JohnnyL
[00:14] <JohnnyL> greeter: ok
[00:14] <greeter> hmm my home directory is way to big to put on the mp3 player. but i can afford to be choosy, a lot of my home directory is junk that i never get around to deleting :-S
[00:15] <JohnnyL> greeter: would you happen to know the percent of apt-get vs rpm and yum and all those others?
[00:15] <usr13> greeter: Welcome to the cluttered club
[00:15] <greeter> i'm not sure what you mean JohnnyL
[00:20] <usr13> greeter: You could also backup to another computer on your LAN.
[00:20] <greeter> just the one computer right now i'm afraid... i'd love to have a second one lol
[00:21] <usr13> greeter: Something like:  gzip < /dev/sda | ssh remote-machine "cat >system_drive_backup.img.gz
[00:22] <greeter> hmm i'll have to remember that one if i can ever get another computer
[00:22] <greeter> truth be told if that happens i will probably retire this one. it's ancient
[00:22] <she_dyed> did that ancient one come with windows, what version?
[00:23] <kzetts_> Hi, is there a way to specify the resolution on the purple screen before booting the livecd? Nomodeset gives me an awful resolution
[00:23] <she_dyed> this one had win2k
[00:23] <she_dyed> in grub you can add a line
[00:24] <BigChestyCheeseM> Oh man, worst day ever
[00:24] <greeter> she_dyed: windows xp home
[00:24] <BigChestyCheeseM> our security guy called me a Ubuntard
[00:24] <greeter> ouch
[00:24] <she_dyed> still running ona dualboot, greeter?
[00:24] <kzetts_> Can I just add something to the end of the boot options?
[00:24] <BigChestyCheeseM> and now I'm moved back down to support queue
[00:25] <she_dyed> he' won't say that when you show him some bad-ass cli
[00:25] <greeter> no she_dyed, first thing i did when i got it was take it home and install fedora
[00:25] <BigChestyCheeseM> they're idiots, they use thos openbsd shit
[00:25] <BigChestyCheeseM> and it doesn't een have good windows
[00:25] <she_dyed> lol greeter
[00:26] <BigChestyCheeseM> ubuntu is way more secure
[00:26] <BigChestyCheeseM> because it's open source
[00:26] <bekks> LOL
[00:26] <bekks> thats nonsense. BSD is opensource, too.
[00:26] <BigChestyCheeseM> i told them and they just laughed ar me
[00:26] <she_dyed> openbsd, don't mock them, they're not 100% winzealots
[00:27] <kzetts> Wait, is this guy thinking that OPENbsd is closed source?
[00:27] <bekks> kzetts: Yes.
[00:27] <kzetts> wat.
[00:27] <she_dyed> seemslike it
[00:27] <kzetts> Maybe he really is an ubuntard then.
[00:27] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: openvsd is open source, fully.
[00:27] <greeter> hey, with this new drive, maybe i should dual boot another operating system
[00:27] <zykotick9> ubuntu is more secure then openbsd... that's a good one!  lol
[00:28] <bekks> *openbsd
[00:28] <BigChestyCheeseM> how come it doesn't have Ubuntu on it then?
[00:28] <jamesd> openbsd are the bastards with neckbeards of the opensource world... and those are the guys they consider noobs.. the gurus have beards to the floor...
[00:28] <BigChestyCheeseM> you can't even use the windows managers
[00:28] <kzetts> OpenBSD's kernel is like the only one to lie never have an remote code execution vulns.
[00:28] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: Erm - do you know that openBSD is a UNIX, while Ubuntu is based on Linux?
[00:28] <kzetts> Hell, even Ubuntu's repo's got backdoored back in like 2009.
[00:28] <kzetts> The ruby package was rootkited for like 4 months.
[00:29] <BigChestyCheeseM> but for servers ubuntu us better
[00:29] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: Do you know that Ubuntu is not something like "some app running on whatever"?
[00:29] <kzetts> BigChestyCheeseM: youre insane.
[00:29] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: Depends on the use case.
[00:29] <BigChestyCheeseM> ubuntu runs on the linux kernel?
[00:29] <kzetts> yes.
[00:29] <kzetts> thats why its called Ubuntu Linux.
[00:29] <BigChestyCheeseM> so it's an app and it's running on the kernel
[00:29] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: And the "linux kernel" does not run on OpenBSD.
[00:29] <kzetts> No
[00:29] <kzetts> Ubuntu is a flavor of Linux.
[00:29] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: You have no clue, honestly.
[00:29] <kzetts> Dis nigga trollin'?
[00:30] <BigChestyCheeseM> lol obviously, but ubuntu is better for this
[00:30] <kzetts> wat.
[00:30] <jamesd> BigChestyCheeseM: uname -s
[00:30] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: Not a single reason for "better" was given until now.
[00:30] <BigChestyCheeseM> you can use the windows to configure the servers
[00:30] <BigChestyCheeseM> like apache
[00:30] <kzetts> Youc an do that in openbsd as well.
[00:30] <kzetts> When you say windows, I assume you mean a GUI.
[00:30] <BigChestyCheeseM> they all use bi
[00:30] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: Using windows for configuring a server justifies you're taken back to support queue.
[00:31] <BigChestyCheeseM> kzetts: the graphics on the screen
[00:31] <TJ-> !ot | BigChestyCheeseM
[00:31] <kzetts> BigChestyCheeseM: the "windows" are just a window manager running on X server. You can do that in BSD as well.
[00:31] <kzetts> How the hell do you think mac's work?
[00:31] <BigChestyCheeseM> It's "Macs" lol
[00:31] <kzetts> Am I to believe that this dude has a job in IT?
[00:32] <BigChestyCheeseM> the XNU is the kernel and then the aquaman is on it
[00:32] <BigChestyCheeseM> with FREEEBSD
[00:32] <BigChestyCheeseM> in there also
[00:32] <kzetts> Holy shit this is killing my buzz.
[00:32] <BigChestyCheeseM> userland
[00:32] <kzetts> Anyways
[00:32] <kzetts> Guys.
[00:32] <BigChestyCheeseM> i'm mad because I know Ubuntu
[00:32] <bekks> BigChestyCheeseM: Pleaso stop now. You just justfied thaht you really have no clue what you are talking about.
[00:32] <BigChestyCheeseM> I'm not a ubuntard!
[00:32] <kzetts> BigChestyCheeseM: You didnt even know Ubuntu was Linux.
[00:33] <BigChestyCheeseM> I did too
[00:33] <daftykins> !offtopic
[00:33] <daftykins> move it elsewhere people
[00:33] <kzetts> Alright
[00:33] <kzetts> Guys listen.
[00:33] <kzetts> So
[00:34] <kzetts> To get the disk to boot on this older laptop with an intel 4500gma card, I'm being forced to set nomodeset. The issue is, its damn near impossible for me to acheive the desired resolution. xrandr errors out, xorg.conf kills itself. Is it possible for me to pass the resolution to KMS pre install time?
[00:34] <kzetts> disk = CD obv
[00:35] <l0rd_hex> kzetts: maybe with VESA?
[00:35] <kzetts> I haven't had any ubuntu version not just work OOB.
[00:35] <kzetts> l0rd_hex: what would i put in boot options?
[00:35] <kzetts> also
[00:35] <kzetts> I dont think 1366x768 is a valid vesa resolution
[00:35] <l0rd_hex> that I'm not sure, you'd have to Google it for VESA
[00:36] <l0rd_hex> kzetts: if it's just for the install, can you suffer through the bad res?
[00:36] <l0rd_hex> ohh, I see X dies
[00:36] <kzetts> l0rd_hex: the issue is, after install, im stuck with 1024x768 resolution
[00:36] <l0rd_hex> what kinda errors do you get/
[00:37] <she_dyed> l0rd_hex: what about vga=ask (old too)
[00:37] <l0rd_hex> kzetts: ohh, gotcha
[00:37] <kzetts> When I try to correct with xrandr
[00:37] <l0rd_hex> she_dyed: I think that's more console size (vs framebuffer)
[00:37] <kzetts> it errors out and says cannot detect gamma
[00:37] <kzetts> When i try to write up my own xorg
[00:37] <kzetts> x dies and says soemthing is wrong with the modeset
[00:37] <kzetts> but
[00:37] <kzetts> that is the resolution in windows on this shitty laptop
[00:37] <she_dyed> whats your graqphics card
[00:37] <kzetts> intel gma4500
[00:37] <l0rd_hex> I wonder what drivers X is loading
[00:38] <kzetts> in my xorg.conf i told it to load intel
[00:38] <l0rd_hex> that might be part of the issue
[00:38] <she_dyed> or load vesa
[00:38] <kzetts> hmm
[00:38] <l0rd_hex> if it's loading the intel drivers but no seeing modeset
[00:38] <kzetts> let me boot back into os, 1 sec
[00:38] <l0rd_hex> what happens if it's booted with modeset?
[00:38] <l0rd_hex> er, kms
[00:39] <l0rd_hex> whatever they call it these days
[00:39] <kzetts> black screen
[00:39] <kzetts> like
[00:39] <kzetts> not even backlight
[00:39] <l0rd_hex> ohh
[00:39] <sprink> I can't get the menubar to reappear in gnome-terminal. Even if I right click the terminal and check "show menubar" it doesn't work. It also doesn't work if I execute from cmd with "gnome-terminal --show-menubar". Any ideas?
[00:39] <l0rd_hex> yeah that ain't nice
[00:39] <kzetts> so you understand my predicament.
[00:39] <l0rd_hex> kzetts: sorry I can't really help you much without just blindly stabbing at stuff
[00:39] <kzetts> And unfortunately for this project, I have to use this laptop and male it back to them with the completed product on it.
[00:39] <l0rd_hex> maybe look for people who have the same model of laptop running Ubuntu
[00:40] <kzetts> l0rd_hex: i googled, not much out there
[00:40] <l0rd_hex> what kinda project?
[00:40] <l0rd_hex> kzetts: try vesa in your Xorg conf
[00:40] <kzetts> will do
[00:40] <kzetts> what are the steps to restart x server without rebooting?
[00:41] <l0rd_hex> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (maybe?)
[00:41] <l0rd_hex> or in terminal "sudo pkill -HUP X"
[00:41] <she_dyed> +1, see if that works
[00:42] <l0rd_hex> the CAB thing depends on if your config has the noZap option set
[00:43] <TJ-> kzetts: I think you need to over-ride EDID and set specific refresh rates in a custom xorg.conf
[00:43] <hipitihop> i'm on 12.04 and a reboot has left me at tty1 and dmesg tail with "failsafe-x termintated with status 1" Can someone help me diagnose
[00:43] <kzetts> tj
[00:43] <kzetts> ive done this
[00:43] <kzetts> got the data from cvt
[00:44] <krasnozer> where can I put commands I want to run on login? I use ~/.xsessionrc on xubuntu but it appears not to be loader with unity
[00:44] <l0rd_hex> kzetts: sorry, I gotta run, good luck!
[00:44] <TJ-> kzetts: As for the kernel boot command-line, you may be able to adapt what I have on my dual-nvidia-GPU based system, to obtain decent high-res ttys: "video=uvesafb:mode_option=1920x1200-32,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"
[00:45] <TJ-> kzetts: maybe my xorg.conf might help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912258/
[00:49] <hipitihop> can anyone help me recover my x session on my other machine, reboot has left me with tty1 login. dmesg tail shows failsafe-x terminated with 1
[00:49] <kzetts> Hmm
[00:49] <kzetts> Whenever I try to set a new mode with xrandr
[00:49] <kzetts> I get xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[00:52] <hipitihop> very quiet here today, everyone asleep in another timezone
[00:53] <TJ-> kzetts: what command precisely are you issuing? and what does "xrandr -q" show?
[00:53] <elianny> hola
[00:54] <elianny> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas
[00:55] <Bashing-om> elianny: Hello !
[00:56] <ometzit> hi everyone! i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on top of a 12.10 but I want to keep the home folder, while removing everything else because there is a problem with the wired and wireless routers in the previous installation. how can i reinstall ubuntu while keeping my documents in the home folder?
[00:56] <daftykins> ometzit: what is your current partition layout?
[00:57] <krasnozer> so it's impossible to execute commands at startup in ubuntu?
[00:59] <sk1special> *dvd decryption software not installed* when trying to play a movie on 12.04
[00:59] <Bashing-om> krasnozer: Before and operating system is loaded, or something to add to "startup" ?
[00:59] <daftykins> sk1special: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:59] <krasnozer> after X login
[01:00] <krasnozer> like .xsessionrc on anything but unity
[01:00] <sk1special> daftykins, already installed
[01:00] <OerHeks> !dvd
[01:00] <Bashing-om> krasnozer: At that point to OS is operational, though GUI apps would not yet be available, what do you want to do at that point ?
[01:01] <krasnozer> are you for real?
[01:01] <she_dyed> go on, answer the man
[01:01] <Bashing-om> krasnozer: nope, just try'n to help, if there is a way to help .
[01:02] <she_dyed> we're also trying
[01:02] <ometzit> daftykins okay i don't remember how this works, i have a sda1 of 104.9 mb in fat16, i think that is a dell recovery drive
[01:02] <krasnozer> so nobody knows? any reason why xsessionrc was disabled?
[01:02] <OerHeks> on startup or after login ?.xsession4c is an user file, hard to perform that before login
[01:03] <she_dyed> you havent given all the info yet
[01:03] <daftykins> ometzit: yeah sounds possible, usually they have a label though
[01:03] <daftykins> ometzit: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show your partition setup? mainly you want to have a separate /home of course
[01:04] <ometzit> daftykins sda2, ntft which is windows loader and sda3 ntfs which is windows partition, sda 5 where is ubuntu 12.04.3 lts the one i want to overwrite and sda6 is swap
[01:04] <sk1special>  alright there was a fix in there thank ya.
[01:04] <TJ-> krasnozer: "man Xsession" lists "$HOME/.xsession"
[01:04] <sk1special> how about does anyone know what i need to do to get that password? when i was installing it asked me to generate a pw..something like right this down and dont loose it if ysstem fails bla bla. but there was a do it later option..how do i do it lol
[01:05] <daftykins> ometzit: it'd really be a lot easier if you could just...
[01:05] <krasnozer> does not work either (with ubuntu+unity, but yeah that's how it works on any other distribution)
[01:05] <daftykins> !pastebin | ometzit
[01:05] <daftykins> :>
[01:06] <ometzit> daftykins ahh okay, but do you want the terminal output (which would be the command) or the gui map in the interface
[01:06] <daftykins> "mount" from terminal might be good
[01:06] <daftykins> and a pic wouldn't hurt
[01:06] <ki7rw> how do i make my sound settings permanent? i set them and then they are back to "default" on the next boot up
[01:07] <TJ-> krasnozer: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession#LightDM_configuration
[01:08] <sk1special> anyone know what im talking about at least so i can look it up?
[01:08] <daftykins> sk1special: libdecss i imagine, not sure if that's the right name
[01:09] <sk1special> was some thing like..generate this password thing now and write it down incase system fails if you choose to not do this now the only wway will be to run this command.. but idk.
[01:10] <sk1special> daftykins, no i got the dvd thing now. im talking about the command to run to get that password from when i installed
[01:11] <daftykins> sk1special: you forget the user password from setup?
[01:11] <nikolam> I was just using youtube and squid3 proxy server, just fine in 12.10 and after updating to 13.10, I can not see not a SINGLE ONE video from youtube, while using squid3 local proxy!
[01:11] <ometzit> daftykins here is a screenshot http://imagebin.org/292665
[01:11] <nikolam> (firefox and seamonkey, using flash on demand)
[01:12] <sk1special> daftykins, no after setting up...once i first logged on. a windows came up and it was some command..said something about generating a special password or something for incase the system fails you would need it..or you clould just close the window and it said if you closed it you would have to run whatever command later to get it.
[01:12] <nikolam> and you know why, because ALL videos suddenly play in HD...
[01:12] <daftykins> sk1special: was it perhaps related to your keyring? i can't imagine what that is
[01:13] <daftykins> ometzit: ah, oh dear no you have a single partition :( you're going to need to backup to external storage ideally first
[01:13] <sk1special> daftykins, idk maybe? ive seen it everytime ive ever installed ubuntu..keys or hashes or something? it wasnt *password* it was some special term..
[01:13] <OerHeks> daftykins, maybe sk1special  has an encrypted home?
[01:14] <daftykins> ah no experience of encryption here
[01:14] <nikolam> and I seems like can not turn OFF "HD" from all youtube videos!
[01:14] <ometzit> daftykins is not possible to wipe the entire ubuntu partition and leave only the home folder?
[01:15] <sk1special> OerHeks, do i? :] i have a cryptswap im pretty sure? is there some command it always makes you run to get a special password with that?
[01:15] <daftykins> ometzit: not unless you sit there in the live session and 'rm' every other folder
[01:15] <nikolam> and HTML5 videos are playing ok
[01:15] <treehouse> sk1special
[01:15] <ometzit> d'oh thats a shame
[01:15] <nikolam> so there is a problem with flash player in 13.10 64bit, playing all youtube videos only in HD
[01:15] <sk1special> treehouse, ?
[01:15] <TJ-> sk1special: printf "%s" "USER_PASSWORD" | ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[01:16] <treehouse> sk1special...
[01:16] <ometzit> well I'll check what should I rescue before going nuclear on 12.04
[01:16] <ometzit> thanks! :)
[01:16] <sk1special> TJ-, unwrap failed check the system log
[01:17] <jacky_> how to merge three line text into one single line using shell command?
[01:17] <sk1special> treehouse, ... ?
[01:17] <TJ-> sk1special: so check it, it'll be either /var/log/syslog or /var/log/auth.log
[01:18] <treehouse> sk1special, what?
[01:18] <sk1special> treehouse, idk you said my name first?
[01:18] <treehouse> sk1special: you're highlighting me
[01:19] <sk1special> treehouse, because you highlighted my name first and just said my name?
[01:19] <TJ-> jacky_: "sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n/ /g' /path/to/file"
[01:19] <daftykins> you two, stop messaging each other
[01:19] <treehouse> sk1special: so it's all my fault? You've highligthed me 6 times so far, for no reason at all
[01:19] <Rallias> Is it possible to force a daemon to start on boot in a specific netns?
[01:19] <jacky_> well, thanks a lot
[01:20] <daftykins> jacky_: no need for attitude, try #bash
[01:20] <sk1special> treehouse, no idea. sorry? moving on.
[01:20] <treehouse> sk1special: you started it. Moving on.
[01:20] <sk1special> TJ-, ah..how do i get permission?
[01:21] <TJ-> sk1special: for what?
[01:21] <sk1special> TJ-, tried both commands says bash: bla bla permission denied
[01:21] <ometzit> my previous ubuntu release, 12.04, has some scripts running from start up, one that allows me to automatically mount the windows partition. does someone know how can I check for those scripts so I don't lose them when I wipe the system?
[01:22] <daftykins> ometzit: you sure it isn't just mounted through that installation's /etc/fstab ?
[01:22] <TJ-> sk1special: I don't know the command "bla bla" ... you'll need to be specific, we can't read your mind.
[01:22] <jacky_> TJ-: input from pipe, the result is only the 3rd line
[01:23] <sk1special> TJ-, haha alright i apologize. idk i tried to look at the system log by typing what you said into the terminal. says permission denied.
[01:23] <ruben231> hi guys...any idea how to install Ubuntu desktop on 50 desktop unit on one time only..? any idea..?
[01:23] <TJ-> sk1special: Ahh thank you! you need sudo... e.g.  "sudo tail -n 50 /var/log/auth.log"
[01:23] <daftykins> ruben231: identical systems?
[01:24] <ruben231> yes all identicakl
[01:24] <ruben231> identical
[01:24] <TJ-> ruben231: puppet or chef or ansible or salt or landscape or...!
[01:24] <daftykins> ruben231: install to one, then clone the disks
[01:25] <TJ-> ruben231: or cobbler
[01:25] <ruben231> TJ-: what is that..?
[01:25] <daftykins> change the hostname on the others, job done \o/
[01:25] <TJ-> ruben231: see http://www.cobblerd.org/
[01:25] <ruben231> how to clone..?
[01:25] <sk1special> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912393/
[01:26] <jKlaus> Is software center working correctly for you guys?
[01:26] <daftykins> ruben231: dd
[01:26] <jKlaus> I'm running 14.04 but no one is in +1
[01:26] <TJ-> sk1special: nothing there, try the same for /var/log/syslog
[01:27] <sk1special> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912406/
[01:27] <TJ-> sk1special: "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase: Incorrect wrapping key for file [/home/.ecryptfs/sk1special/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase]"
[01:27] <sk1special> TJ-, what does that mean?
[01:27] <TJ-> sk1special: Have you changed your user password since the user was first created?
[01:28] <ruben231> TJ-: cobbler can do ubuntu desktop..?
[01:28] <sk1special> TJ-, ah no. but i didnt do whatever the thing im trying to do is.. (obviously) and that had something to do with some password
[01:29] <TJ-> sk1special: The encrypted homes use a machine-generated encryption key. That key is then further encrypted (wrapped) using your user login password. If you later change your user password that doesn't change the wrapper password
[01:29] <sk1special> TJ-, ah is that what i didnt do? generate the key?
[01:30] <TJ-> sk1special: Yes, I believe you are referring to the fact that when you choose "encrypted home directory" the tools suggest you unwrap the machine-generated passphrase and keep it safe. They wrap it with the user password you selected at that time
[01:30] <sk1special> TJ-, is was a gui window after the first time i logged on. said i had to generate something. and i should write it down because i would need it if the system failed. but i just closed the window because it said i could do it later. but only by running some command in terminal
[01:30] <sk1special> TJ-, yeah sounds like it. so whats the command to do that now?
[01:32] <ometzit> daftykins it does't seems so, but is easier just to redo the command
[01:33] <ometzit> finished saving stuff, i'm going to reinstall ubuntu while sleeping. have a good night!
[01:33] <daftykins> and you \o
[01:33] <TJ-> sk1special: The message came from "/usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-record-passphrase" in which it says "Otherwise, you will need to run "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase" from the command
[01:33] <TJ->  line to retrieve and record your generated passphrase"
[01:34] <SlicedBread> how do I by pass this ::        The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:34] <SlicedBread>  cndrvcups-common:i386 : Depends: cupsys:i386 but it is not installable or
[01:34] <SlicedBread>                                   cups:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[01:34] <SlicedBread> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[01:35] <SlicedBread> I installed cups with no avail
[01:35] <TJ-> sk1special: and the command it uses is "  ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase $HOME/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase 2>/dev/null && echo [Enter] && head -n1 && touch $HOME/.ecryptfs/.wrapped-passphrase.recorded  "
[01:35] <SlicedBread> would like help
[01:36] <sk1special> TJ-, okay so i got the passphrase now..did that fix the error you saw at first or do i need to do something else too?
[01:36] <TJ-> If you have the passphrase, put it somewhere safe, there's no way to recover it if things go wrong
[01:37] <TJ-> sk1special: you should be sorted now, the system has put a marker file in place telling itself you've recorded that passphrase
[01:37] <SourceSlayer> So, I had applications running as one user and needed to shutdown.
[01:38] <sk1special> TJ-, mmk. thanks for the help. one more thing and ill be done lol. do you know why i cant scroll in xchat? like the scroll bar is just gone so i cant read older stuff
[01:39] <she_dyed> not even PgUp pgDn works?
[01:39] <she_dyed> just to see the history
[01:40] <sk1special> she_dyed, that switches what..idk what its called. what window i guess in the side bar. what channel window
[01:40] <TJ-> sk1special: Settings > Preferences > Interface > Text box > "Scrollback lines"
[01:40] <she_dyed> oh isee, workspaces you mean
[01:40] <she_dyed> annoying i know
[01:40] <TJ-> sk1special: Mine is set to 500 line
[01:40] <SourceSlayer> So I switched to a text session "sudo shutdown now", as it began to shutdown, Ubuntu started listing things it was shutting down, so I began to type random nonsense into the keyboard and this apparently canceled the shutdown, X11 wasn't running but I was suddenly the root user. Is that a security flaw?
[01:40] <sk1special> TJ-, scroll back lines 500
[01:40] <Guest3825> list Guest30880
[01:40] <Guest3825> list Guest30880 Guest30880
[01:41] <SourceSlayer> Was it root just because I used sudo or because it needs to be root to shutdown?
[01:41] <greeter> sudo defaults to the root account
[01:41] <TJ-> sk1special: hang on, are you complaining about not being able to *see* a scroll-bar? If so, it's the Ubuntu Unity style... hover the mouse over the divider on the right and a small scroller will appear
[01:41] <greeter> you can specify other users on the system with sudo if you need to of course
[01:42] <TJ-> sk1special: if you look real close you'll see a short blue vertical bar on the right at the bottom of the right side... that's the current scroll location
[01:42] <sk1special> TJ-, yeah theres just no scroll bar there. well there is for the username list but not the actual chatbox. the username box scroll bar appears. but not the txt box.
[01:43] <she_dyed> with the cursor inside textbox,see if PgUp or Pg Dn still behaves the same
[01:44] <sk1special> she_dyed, yeah that worked.. but i still want my scroll bar back :'[ it used to be there
[01:47] <sk1special> okay hitting page up and down a bunch made the orange line you hover over to get the bar come back. before it would only show the left right arrow to expand the userlist. whatever.. with my graphics this shouldnt be working at all.
[01:47] <sk1special> thanks everyone. later later.
[01:50] <indomitus> how is support for ppc holding up?
[01:51] <lasindi> Hi all, how do I get the "Dash search" (sorry, don't know what it's called) to index my dropbox folder? I'd like to be able to search through all the PDFs in there by their contents quickly
[01:54] <SourceSlayer> greeter: Thank you.
[01:54] <SourceSlayer> Sorry for late response.
[01:54] <greeter> hmm?
[01:54] <greeter> for what?
[01:55] <SourceSlayer> Responding to my question. :)
[01:55] <greeter> oh sorry, i see now, no problem :-)
[01:55] <greeter> try man sudo for more details about how sudo works and how to effectively use it
[02:01] <linux_> t
[02:02] <she_dyed>  for 2
[02:07] <paul_uk1> hey all.  anyone here with a mac and mavericks?  im unable to connect to a shared linux drive.  i've tried smb://  and cifs://  but cant get past the credentials popup.
[02:09] <SpudDogg> paul_uk1: have you set up a samba share and user?
[02:09] <paul_uk1> SpudDogg:  of course.  this was working fine for a year pre mavericks.
[02:10] <SpudDogg> oic
[02:10] <SpudDogg> hrm
[02:15] <paul_uk1> well that is weird.  i've never had to do this.  but i had to do smbpasswd for the main account on linux to access the share.  now i can connect.
[02:16] <Ephexeve> Hye guys, question, someone accessed my PC through teamviewer, I am using Ubuntu os, is there a way I can check what is the IP that connected?
[02:16] <Ephexeve> so I can make sure it's a computer I know or now?
[02:16] <Ephexeve> *not
[02:17] <SlicedBread> what can I do about this? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/cndrvcups-common-32_2.50-1-2~precise1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libc3pl.so.0', which is also in package cndrvcups-common 2.60-1
[02:17] <SlicedBread> anyone know? please help. I've been with this too long ><
[02:18] <dukeNubem> Hi everyone. How do I find out which applications run on startup and how do I disable some of them?
[02:23] <SlicedBread> dukeNubem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/405157/some-programs-run-on-startup this might help
[02:24] <greeter> the last time i installed ubuntu from cd, it asked me if i wanted to install things like mp3 file support. is it possible to skip that and install it later?
[02:24] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: is that a printer driver deb you're trying to install?
[02:24] <SlicedBread> yeah...
[02:25] <SlicedBread> having a hard time trying to do this
[02:25] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i assume a canon printer looking at the name, do you have specific make or anything?
[02:25] <SlicedBread> mg2520
[02:25] <SlicedBread> pixma
[02:26] <SlicedBread> assumed right
[02:26] <SlicedBread> whats going wrong here?
[02:26] <dukeNubem> SlicedBread: Thank you. I'll try it.
[02:26] <SlicedBread> goodlluck!
[02:27] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, what do i do?
[02:28] <Sargun> How did you guys build the S3 mirrors?
[02:28] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: do you have the driver file extracted somewhere? i think you need to install the correct deb files manually for 32bit or 64bit system
[02:30] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: there should be 2 folders, one for 32bit and one for 64bit ubuntu, do you have those?
[02:30] <SlicedBread> I installed cndvrcups-common and cndvrcups-capt with ubuntu software center
[02:31] <sprink> I can't get the menubar to reappear in gnome-terminal. Even if I right click the terminal and check "show menubar" it doesn't work. It also doesn't work if I execute from cmd with "gnome-terminal --show-menubar". Any ideas?
[02:31] <SlicedBread> yes I have those two debs extrated in my downloads folder
[02:33] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: the error you get can be fixed, bad packaging i'd guess if it has the same .so file inside both .. if you open a terminal at that location, you can better first purge what you did thru software center, by running "sudo apt-get purge cndvrcups*" ..
[02:33] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: when that command is finished, run: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i ./*.deb (you need to be in the correct location ofcourse)
[02:35] <billybobo> when you setup openssh-server with Subsystem sftp internal-sftp Match Group sftp.....can you use scp to transfer files to that home folder?
[02:36] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, that when great. what next?
[02:36] <SlicedBread> went*
[02:38] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: nice, next step would be to add the printer through the CUPS interface, it uses a browser at http://localhost:631 .. take a look at the interface and see if it mentions the canon
[02:40] <dukeNubem> SlicedBread: Several paths are mentioned and I can't find them. Can you help me with that? e.g. ~/.config/autostart (I was disconnected for a moment)
[02:42] <mynetdude> trying to install a HighPoint Rocket RAID controller on ubuntu 12.10 I have the drivers for that version from the MFG/OEM when I run install.sh nothing happens it doesn't even ask for my password what gives?
[02:43] <dukeNubem> I don't know where ~ is.
[02:43] <ttal> guys how do I save a gnumeric spreadsheet in a format that can be opened on a windows desktop?
[02:44] <glitsj16> dukeNubem: the ~ means your /home/<username>
[02:44] <dukeNubem> Oh, thanks.
[02:45] <treehouse> why -C "lolEMAIL@EMAIL.GOV" when you ssh-keygen?
[02:46] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, nothing in printers and searching for canon doesn' yield
[02:47] <zykotick9> SlicedBread: did you restart cups?  might be required?
[02:47] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: the GUI does open in your browser? if so, try the 'Administration' tab and choose 'add printer'
[02:47] <jshriver> greetings
[02:48] <jshriver> anyone know where perl install modules when you install frmo cpan instead of apt?
[02:48] <jshriver> perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Whatever"'
[02:48] <jshriver> tried searching in /usr/share and /usr/local nothing but says it's installed
[02:49] <glitsj16> ttal: gnumeric should have an option to export the file as .xls (Excel) .. but .csv is quite universal, that should work pretty much everywhere
[02:50] <aarmnn> my Ubuntu USB boots half the time with an error of "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'",  the other half of the time it boots fine
[02:50] <aarmnn> :/
[02:51] <boccobrock> jshriver: user perl -V. at the bottom it says INC@: those are the include directories for modules etc
[02:51] <boccobrock> jshriver: *use
[02:55] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, no! the model isn't there
[02:56] <SlicedBread> mg2100 and mg3100 but no mg2520
[02:57] <PhantomPhreak53> I am configuring a server with 4 nic cards. 1 nic has a dsl connection, 1 has a satelitte connection and I want 1 of the others to be an outbound nic that shares the internet with a switch that has a few computes patched in. I have my dsl and satelittle connection up seperate but can't seem to push them out through the nic. I have found a few to push 1 but not both or depending on which is up.
[02:57] <PhantomPhreak53> Any recomendations or something I should read up on
[02:59] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: not uncommon for printers that several models are supported thru one driver, if you didn't find specific drivers for the mg2520 on canons website try with the mg3100 or the mg2100 next if the former doesn't work as expected .. do you have a URL where you got the drivers from so we can have a look?
[03:00] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[03:01] <greeter_> wow, this install cd for ubuntu is really impressive :-)
[03:02] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: are you on 13.10 or did you follow instructions for 12.04?
[03:03] <greeter_> ext4 is the recommended file system to use, right?
[03:04] <glitsj16> greeter_: yes, ext4 should be fine
[03:04] <greeter_> ok perfect
[03:08] <greeter_> hmm, now i'm having issues setting up the partition table :-S it's not letting me set up three partitions
[03:08] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, my printer blinks but when I print a page but it doesn't actually print a page. it just blinks once.
[03:11] <SlicedBread> and it says it completed the job but it hasn't
[03:11] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: likely it isn't configured correctly, or you need another driver from canon, i'm looking at their support website for more info on the mg2520 .. give me a minute please
[03:11] <SlicedBread> thanks
[03:11] <zykotick9> greeter_: fyi, if you are using an MSDOS partition table, you can only have 4 primary partitions...  use extended/logical if possible.  GPT partitions don't have this silly limitation.
[03:13] <greeter_> well the drive was linux ext3 file system, plus swap
[03:13] <greeter_> i used gparted and deleted all the partitions, knowing that this would destroy all the data on the drive. i'm hoping it will let me proceed with the installation now
[03:17] <clouder`grr> I recently upgraded from 13.04 or 13.10 and now my phusion passenger doesn't work. whenever I enable the apache conf for it, no data is sent and error logs give me this "[core:notice] [pid 10568] AH00052: child pid 11080 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[03:17] <clouder`grr> "
[03:17] <greeter_> there, it's working now :-) just have to figure out how big a spaw partition i need
[03:19] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: not much on the mg2520, but i found http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/canon-drivers-for-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/ .. are you on 13.10?
[03:20] <mynetdude> so I am trying to run install.sh for a RAID controller driver and nothing happens so I tried preinstall2.sh and ran it through terminal and noticed that its not getting permission for some named file in /boot...
[03:21] <zykotick9> mynetdude: if you trust it, try running the script with sudo.  "sudo install.sh" type thing.
[03:22] <mynetdude> zykotick9 I tried that; told me no such command
[03:22] <mynetdude> I was doing sudo /home/downloads/install folder/install.sh
[03:22] <zykotick9> mynetdude: sorry, "sudo ./install.sh" assuming you're in the same directory
[03:22] <zykotick9> mynetdude: the SPACE might be an issue!
[03:22] <mynetdude> ahh ok I'll just change dirs
[03:23] <mynetdude> (no space I was just saying... "install folder")
[03:23] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, 12.04
[03:23] <mynetdude> zykotick9 but I'll try to change folders; that's a good start
[03:25] <zykotick9> mynetdude: if it still fails let me know
[03:25] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: ok, just to give you another (i think better) option: there's a PPA that offers drivers for your printer/scanner with packages for precies 12.04 .. i'd suggest purging what you installed before and we'll get you through the procedure to install from that PPA if you'd like to try that
[03:26] <mynetdude> zykotick9 I'm having trouble getting into the /downloads folder; but I can get into /home so I assume /download is in /home/downloads
[03:26] <zykotick9> mynetdude: it's Downloads - notice the captial
[03:26] <thesisus> how can I make .sh files work again by clicking on them
[03:26] <mynetdude> I saw that too; didn't make a difference but I'll try again
[03:26] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i think right now you only have the generic driver from canon that doesn't support your scanner functionality anyway (if it is one of those integrated printer/scanner machines)
[03:26] <SlicedBread> yes it is
[03:28] <mynetdude> zykotick9 cd /home works but not cd /home/downloads not cd /home/Downloads not cd /Downloads not cd /Home/Downloads so what am I doing wrong?
[03:28] <zykotick9> mynetdude: lol, try "cd ~/Downloads"  it's /home/YOURUSERNAME/Downloads
[03:30] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: ok, so disconnect the printer for now and open a terminal window, run that former command again: sudo apt-get purge cndvr*
[03:30] <unitypunk> ughh
[03:30] <unitypunk> fuck 3.2
[03:30] <somsip> !language | unitypunk
[03:30] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: sorry, typo --> sudo apt-get purge cndrvcups*
[03:30] <unitypunk> next time we update, lets not drop legacy devices plz.
[03:30] <zykotick9> mynetdude: best of luck - sorry, i won't help further.  you obviously don't/can't understand what your about to do with your system.  best of luck, though.
[03:30] <mynetdude> zykotick9 oh ah its been awhile
[03:30] <mynetdude> zykotick9 sure I do; I'm installing the RAID controller drivers using elevated permissions but I understand the fanboy attitude like yours just gets welcomed to my ignore list
[03:31] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, done and updated
[03:31] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: ok, next step is adding the PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon-stable && sudo apt-get update
[03:33] <SlicedBread> glebihan, Done
[03:33] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, Done*
[03:35] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, next?
[03:36] <Guest81607> hi, i have a problem, mi hard disk is almoust dead, there is only one partition that is bearly working and i like to make beck up to my other laptop where i am useing windows 7 . I am raning the laptop with dead hard disk by ubuntu live. The problem is that i cant install samba to share the connection true wi-fi.. Can i somehow instal it on the live usb?
[03:37] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: if that command finished without errors: sudo apt-get install cndrvcups-common cndrvcups-common-* cnijfilter-mg3100series cnijfilter-mg3100series-64 scangearmp-common scangearmp-common-* scangearmp-mg3100series scangearmp-mg3100series-*
[03:37] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: too me a while to put that together sorry, but it should work for both 32bit and 64bit packages
[03:37] <glitsj16> *took
[03:38] <Guest81607> i will try , tx
[03:39] <indomitus> Anyone know why I get "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker." When trying to download ubuntu 12.04 LTS for ppc via torrent?
[03:40] <SlicedBread> : Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:40] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:40] <SlicedBread>  cndrvcups-common:i386 : Depends: cupsys:i386 but it is not installable or
[03:40] <SlicedBread>                                   cups:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[03:40] <SlicedBread>  cnijfilter-mg3100series-64 : Depends: cnijfilter-common-64 (>= 3.90) but it is not going to be installed
[03:41] <SlicedBread> i have 64bit
[03:42] <zykotick9> !ppc | indomitus it's not really an ubuntu supported architecture
[03:42] <newbie|3> hello everyone
[03:43] <greeter_> greetings newbie|3
[03:43] <indomitus> zykotick9: yup, got that. then why have a torrent listed here ??? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[03:43] <mynetdude> and for your info; zykotick9 its not up to you to decide if I'm a risk to my own PC... I would not care if it messed up; but since you asked it worked pretty simple but your attitude caught you red handed... good day.
[03:43] <zykotick9> indomitus: i have no clue...  best of luck.
[03:44] <newbie|3> anyone out there help me with  ubuntu
[03:44] <carmony> I'm using the normal ubuntu repositories for installing my vagrant environment. It is getting really slow (50 kb/s), is there a better way that I can setup or use a pre-made mirror?
[03:44] <dhjw> newbie|3: jus ask
[03:44] <zykotick9> newbie|3: what are you having issues with?  try asking a specific question, with details.
[03:45] <newbie|3> crowning other browser one ubuntu13.10
[03:45] <carmony> It is a 12.04 LTS server
[03:46] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: okay, we'll take out the 32bit ones; sudo apt-get install cndrvcups-common cndrvcups-common-32 cnijfilter-mg3100series cnijfilter-mg3100series-32 cnijfilter-mg3100series-64 scangearmp-common-32 scangearmp-common-64 scangearmp-mg3100series-32 scangearmp-mg3100series-64
[03:46] <dhjw> newbie|3: what do you mean crowning
[03:46] <newbie|3> getting all traffic to go through it
[03:46] <newbie|3> not fire fox
[03:47] <dhjw> newbie|3: so you want to install another browser like chrome
[03:47] <kubaa> how can i instal sumba on live ubuntu usb? My hard disk is like dead , and i like to save some stuff by sharing network with my other laptop
[03:47] <ubuntu13> hey guys, i'm having trouble with the graphivs. Not getting the right resolutions, and the nvidia driver too didn't work
[03:47] <newbie|3> not chrome but yes
[03:48] <dhjw> newbie|3: you can find one in the applications > software center or look on the web for a .DEB file ..
[03:48] <tzs_> kubaa: you mean samba? just try installing it like on as usual
[03:48] <newbie|3> i have it im just looking for the command line for it
[03:48] <crankharder> if i'm using shred to clean a whole hard drive is shredding the device sufficient or do i need to remove the partitions first?
[03:49] <SlicedBread> sudo apt-get install cndrvcups-common cnijfilter-mg3100series cnijfilter-mg3100series-64 scangearmp-common-64 scangearmp-mg3100series-64
[03:49] <SlicedBread> that gives me
[03:49] <dhjw> newbie|3: dpkg -i <name> or *.deb
[03:49] <SlicedBread> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:49] <SlicedBread>  cndrvcups-common:i386 : Depends: cupsys:i386 but it is not installable or
[03:49] <SlicedBread>                                   cups:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[03:49] <SlicedBread>  cnijfilter-mg3100series-64 : Depends: cnijfilter-common-64 (>= 3.90) but it is not going to be installed
[03:49] <dhjw> newbie|3: sudo dpkg -i <name> or *.deb
[03:49] <newbie|3> im confused
[03:50] <newbie|3> im new
[03:50] <tzs_> crankharder: if you shred the device like /dev/sd? be carful not to shred thre wrong device. and dont care about the partitions
[03:50] <dhjw> newbie|3: you downloaded a .deb file right
[03:50] <crankharder> tzs_: ty
[03:50] <newbie|3> anmy browser its all installed i just want all traffic to rout there
[03:51] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i probably messed up somewhere obviously, sorry about that .. perhaps it is easier to open software-center and look for  cndrvcups-common, cnijfilter and scangearmp to install
[03:51] <dhjw> newbie|3: so you want to set default browser
[03:51] <newbie|3> yes ty
[03:51] <dhjw> newbie|3: http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+set+default+browser :)
[03:53] <ubuntu13> PLease tell me how to fix this monitor driver problem
[03:53] <Psil0Cybin> blasted account daemon decides to always crash, what is that....sigh :(
[03:53] <dhjw> newbie|3: i forget where it is exactly...
[03:54] <newbie|3> im lookin ty
[03:55] <ubuntu13> Hello hello hello somebody help... :(
[03:55] <dhjw> newbie|3: System Settings -> Details at the bottom
[03:56] <dhjw> newbie|3: if from the power button thingy... or Applications > System Settings > Details
[03:57] <dhjw> newbie|3: then Default Applications in left menu
[03:57] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:57] <SlicedBread> cndrvcups-common:i386: Depends: libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.6.1) but 1:2.6.4-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[03:58] <SlicedBread>                        Depends: ghostscript (>= 9.00) but 9.05~dfsg-0ubuntu4.2 is to be installed
[03:58] <newbie|3> found it im trying to get everything to go throu tor
[03:58] <SlicedBread> I installed both libglade and ghostscript after that but still returns that error
[03:58] <dhjw> newbie|3: thats not for newbies.  :P
[03:58] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: do you have any other PPA's installed?
[03:59] <zykotick9> i use full disk encryption with a small /boot partition - most people don't do thing, so not an issue.
[03:59] <SlicedBread> how do I check?
[03:59] <zykotick9> sorry
[03:59] <newbie|3> i just want my michine secure
[03:59] <newbie|3> ill figure it out
[03:59] <dhjw> newbie|3: unless the NSA is after you i wouldnt worry :) besides Tor is incredibly slow
[04:00] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: run: ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list.d .. if it outputs libes, please paste those at paste.ubuntu.com and show the URL here
[04:00] <greeter_> even if you use tor, you still have to work with encrypted data, otherwise someone on the tor exit node could intercept it. tor alone isn't necessarily secure
[04:01] <dhjw> yeah just use https sites....
[04:01] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912927/
[04:02] <greeter_> all right, just installed lubuntu :-D time to reboot and set everything up so it's just perfect
[04:03] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: thanks, we'll need to check a few things, run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && apt-cache policy multiarch-support | pastebinit for starters
[04:05] <SlicedBread> cool done
[04:06] <dhjw> ubuntu13: whats up
[04:06] <treehouse> hi, just want to view a simple .tex file as a pdf document. How? :)
[04:06] <ubuntu13> dhjw, graphics problems :(
[04:06] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: can you paste the URL you got from that command
[04:07] <dhjw> ubuntu13: not my forte :/
[04:07] <dhjw> ubuntu13: maybe if you explain someone can help ya
[04:07] <ubuntu13> dhjw,  Tried the latest nvidia driver and the problem started. No graphics at all there. Now kinda rolled back and monitor's f*cked
[04:08] <SlicedBread> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912943/ glitsj16
[04:08] <dhjw> ubuntu13: kinda rolled back? :)
[04:09] <dhjw> ubuntu13: on one comp i have i just run the nvidia install .bin from recovery prompt every time kernel updates and screws things up :/
[04:09] <ubuntu13> dhjw, yeah, I mean removed the nvidia stuff and un-blacklisted nouveau from modprobe...
[04:09] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: that looks good, next: apt-cache policy ia32-libs-multiarch | pastebinit @ same deal with the url
[04:10] <yeyeman> anyone have the bug where vlc player goes 100% cpu?
[04:10] <dhjw> ubuntu13: but now i think its mostly automatically supported from some Additional Drivers page in System
[04:10] <dhjw> ubuntu13: ive never blacklisted anything to get nvidia working
[04:10] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912947/
[04:10] <yeyeman> and there is a delay when play/stop via the unity panel
[04:11] <ubuntu13> dhjw, I think something's wrong with both the latest nvidia and u13.10. The graphics work fine from the live cd...
[04:11] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: also looking good, next one: apt-cache policy libglade2-0 ghostscript | pastebinit
[04:12] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912960/
[04:14] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: sudo apt-get install cndrvcups-common | pastebinit
[04:14] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: that might complain if you've got software-center still open, if so, close that for now
[04:15] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912978/
[04:16] <greeter> ubuntu is working flawlessly :-D
[04:17] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: apt-cache policy cupsys cups | pastebinit
[04:18] <SlicedBread> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912992/
[04:20] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: a bit odd is the error on cupsys, there doesn't seem to be such package so it might be a bad dependency in that PPA, give me a sec to check a few things, i'll report back asap
[04:20] <dhjw> ubuntu13: http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely ?
[04:21] <SlicedBread> thanks
[04:21] <ubuntu13> dpkg, What's the last known nvidia driver reported to work flawlessly with ubuntu 13.10??
[04:21] <dhjw> ubuntu13: no clue
[04:22] <ubuntu13> dpkg, I don't think it's just nvidia problem. The monitor isn't detected correctly
[04:22] <ubuntu13> It's supposed to be 1920/1080, but I'm getting only lower res
[04:22] <ubuntu13> and no full screen
[04:22] <dhjw> ubuntu13: read the page it says remove xorg.conf too
[04:23] <dhjw> ubuntu13: maybe thats it
[04:23] <TJ-> ubuntu13: what is "xrandr -q" reporting?
[04:23] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, I found this http://elementaryforum.org/forum/support-assistance/how-to_aa/2215-install-canon-pixma-mg2520-all-in-one-printer-scanner
[04:23] <ubuntu13> dpkg, ok, let me see
[04:23] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: try: apt-cache rdepends cupsys | pastebinit, i'll take a look at that thanks
[04:23] <TJ-> ubuntu13: I have systems running 1920x1200 with nvidia-331 on 13.10, without issue
[04:24] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, jose@jose:~/Downloads$ apt-cache rdepends cupsys
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[04:24] <TJ-> ubuntu13: if there is a resolution issue, that suggests an incorrect/invalid EDID is returned from the monitor
[04:24] <ubuntu13> TJ-, xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[04:24] <ubuntu13> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1280 x 720, maximum 1280 x 1024
[04:24] <ubuntu13> default connected primary 1280x720+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[04:24] <dhjw> ubuntu13: page also tells how to explicitly tell nouveau to load
[04:25] <ubuntu13> dhjw, will look into that
[04:27] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: well we'll give the instructions from that page a try, take 3 :) .. so download the driver from the linked page
[04:27] <SlicedBread> hm that just seems to be a bunch of html files
[04:27] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: hang on, checking
[04:28] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, use "nvidia-settings" and check what monitors and resolutions it reports
[04:28] <ubuntu13> TJ-, no nvidia now
[04:29] <SlicedBread> hm its asking for ubuntu 13.04
[04:29] <ubuntu13> TJ-, removed/purged that
[04:29] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: indeed, i saw the referenced driver on another canon page, let me track it down
[04:29] <ubuntu13> TJ-, checking out that page dhjw mentioned
[04:29] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, so without nouveau loaded, the resolutions you reported would be correct if the VESA driver is in use
[04:30] <ubuntu13> TJ-, yes, that's what is in use
[04:30] <chaotix> hey guys...  so i had to reinstall ubuntu, and there is this application i had that i really liked and i can not remember the name to it, but i was hoping someone here knows what i am talking about.  its like alacarte, only newer, less buggy, and currently maintained.  i recomended it in here a while back when i first found it
[04:30] <ubuntu13> TJ-, so, nouveau isn't being used?
[04:30] <chaotix> does anyone know what it is called?  it is a menu editor like alacarte that creates .desktop files
[04:30] <TJ-> ubuntu13: Check; read /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... better still, pastebinit
[04:31] <ubuntu13> TJ-, I un-blacklisted that. anyway,
[04:31] <ubuntu13> cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log  |pastebinit
[04:31] <ubuntu13> ooops! :P
[04:32] <ubuntu13> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913023/
[04:32] <ol> can anyone explain me how to use this site "http://webscrapemaster.com/try/" ?
[04:34] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100553202.html .. download the source from that page, but before proceeding we need to remove the PPA: sudo ppa-purge ppa:michael-gruz/canon-stable .. let that finish and tell me when it did
[04:35] <SlicedBread> jose@jose:~/Downloads$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:michael-gruz/canon-stable
[04:35] <SlicedBread> [sudo] password for jose:
[04:35] <SlicedBread> sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[04:35] <jose> SlicedBread: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[04:37] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: forgot that you might not have that command, see jose^^ and try the purge command again
[04:37] <ubuntu13> TJ-, u there :)
[04:38] <shreezbot> Anyone got any tips on troubleshooting issues rebooting in Ubuntu?  When I type "sudo reboot now", the system doesn't reboot.  I tried killing tasks hoping some task was holding it up, but nothing seems to work.  Any ideas on figuring out what is going on to cause it to not reboot normally?
[04:38] <SlicedBread> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913035/ gl
[04:38] <SlicedBread> jose, ^_^
[04:39] <MackMan> hello, i have ubuntu 13.10. how can install the flash plug in for firefox?
[04:39] <ubuntu13> is ubuntu-desktop app necessary for both nvidia and nouveau?
[04:39] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: that actually looks good, last line is the important one, and it reports succesfull purging of the PPA
[04:39] <MackMan> i have the .rpm file downloaded but how can i start it?
[04:40] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: do you have the driver source saved somewhere onto your HDD?
[04:40] <SlicedBread> driver source?
[04:41] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: the one from http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100553202.html, the download contains the sources for the canon, we'll need to manually install those
[04:41] <SlicedBread> yes
[04:42] <TJ-> ubuntu13: Have you been installing the Nvidia drivers from the Ubuntu archives, or manually from a download
[04:42] <qin> MackMan: Did you download flash plugin in .rpm fromat?
[04:43] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: okay, extract the tar.gz file and navigate to the scangearmp-source-2.20-1/scripts/install_deb directory in a terminal
[04:43] <ubuntu13> TJ-, manually from a repository, but I did confirm it was legit
[04:43] <ubuntu13> TJ-, don't remember the repo
[04:44] <ubuntu13> TJ-, what would be the best way to go about it?
[04:44] <ubuntu13> TJ-, and would that fix the monitor res prob?
[04:44] <MackMan> qin: yes i also download the deb format
[04:44] <MackMan> how can i run it?
[04:46] <qin> MackMan: lovely, remove both and open "Software Center", if you want to install deb file: sudo dpkg -i name.deb, for rpm you need alien, ask bot for it.
[04:46] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, done
[04:46] <qin> !alien > MackMan
[04:47] <TJ-> ubuntu13: You should use the regular ubuntu packages, that ensures it is tested to work in almost all cases. I use nvidia-331
[04:47] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, done
[04:47] <ubuntu13> TJ-, apt-get install nvidia-331 ?
[04:47] <treehouse> qin
[04:47] <TJ-> ubuntu13: Until the correct driver (nouveau or nvidia) are up and running the resolution issue is hard to determine
[04:48]  * viper_67 waves hello
[04:48] <qin> treehouse: yup?
[04:48] <treehouse> qin: :3
[04:48] <viper_67> my function keys don't work on 13.10 saucy , anyone have ideas on how to fix it?
[04:48] <xjkx> (13.10/64bits) I want to run netflix. UbuntuGeek site said I gotta add this repository sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio is this safe ?
[04:49] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: ok, so from that install_deb directory, run: sudo ./install.sh (you might get questions)
[04:49] <TJ-> ubuntu13: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-settings-331"
[04:49] <somsip> !ppa | xjkx
[04:49] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913089/
[04:50] <ubuntu13> TJ-, I'm installing it again, and it's getting it from the repo I added edger. is that good?
[04:50] <xjkx> somsip: thanks, do you have a safe way to run netflix though ?
[04:50] <TJ-> ubuntu13: xorg-edgers?
[04:50] <ubuntu13> TJ-, nvidia-331_331.38-0ubuntu1~xedgers~saucy1_amd64.deb
[04:50] <ubuntu13> TJ-, yes
[04:50] <TJ-> ubuntu13: Yes, that's the same PPA I use
[04:50] <viper_67> anyone know how to fix function keys on 13.10 saucy
[04:50] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: well that isn't very detailed :) .. let me look at the script and try to see if we can get some more details
[04:51] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, :)
[04:52] <xangua> viper_67: please describe your issue
[04:52] <xangua> !details
[04:52] <ubuntu13> I installed just the nvidia-331 and then tried nvidia-settings-331 which it can't find
[04:53] <usr13> ubuntu13: maybe it's just nvidia-settings
[04:53] <somsip> xjkx: I don't even know what netflix really is. I can't help
[04:53] <viper_67> tosh satellite l305 XXXX 13.10 saucy.  Issue: Function keys to control volume, brightness  don't work. can't figure how to fix it
[04:53] <ubuntu13> usr13, ok, let's see
[04:53] <TJ-> ubuntu13: check this: "apt-cache policy nvidia-settings-331"
[04:53] <ameralrdadi> Hello World !
[04:53] <ameralrdadi> ^_^
[04:54] <TJ-> ubuntu13: the version installed using "nvidia-settings" doesn't match, and likely will cause conflicts
[04:54] <ubuntu13> TJ-, Unable to locate package nvidia-settings-331
[04:54] <treehouse> hey qin :)
[04:54] <TJ-> ubuntu13: That is ... weird :)
[04:55] <xjkx> somsip: oh ok, thanks anyway, fyi, its a paid access site to watch movies, very popular and legal way to see movies
[04:55] <xangua> viper_67: how about if you press them without holding the function key¿
[04:55] <usr13> TJ-: It would seem to me that if you have more than one nvidia module installed, there would be problems with that.
[04:55] <ubuntu13> TJ-, is the package there at all?
[04:56] <qin> hey, treehouse. ;D let's place all that in #ubuntu-offtopic, please.
[04:56] <usr13> TJ-: ubuntu13  I find it easier to just download/install from nvidia.com
[04:56] <viper_67> xangua: F6 f7 , jumps to addresss bar, the function key works to hit say Fn + F8 to kill wifi but not adjust brigthness
[04:57] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: this is turning into a bit of an odd routine, the install script seems to refer to a dir called packages but i can't see that in the extracted source .. do you see that?
[04:57] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, I've just checked the xorg-edgers PPA. "nvidia-settings" is the correct package-name... they've changed things around and moved the version string out of the package name, and created dummy packages in the old style
[04:58] <ubuntu13> TJ-, so? what to do?
[04:58] <TJ-> ubuntu13: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" will be correct
[04:58] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, line 421?
[04:58] <ubuntu13> TJ-, nvidia-settings is already the newest version
[04:59] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, that's good
[04:59] <ubuntu13> TJ-, now what?
[04:59] <usr13> ubuntu13: run it?
[04:59] <ubuntu13> reboot?
[04:59] <TJ-> ubuntu13: now lets find out if the nvidia module has loaded "lsmod | grep nvidia" ... if there is no output, its not loaded yet
[04:59] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: yes, that code block indeed
[04:59] <ubuntu13> TJ-,  nothing
[05:00] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, now you have several steps to do, some with the GUI stopped, so lets go carefully...
[05:00] <ubuntu13> TJ-, ok man
[05:00] <whatsyourname> ubuntu is for noobs
[05:01] <whatsyourname> right?
[05:01] <shreezbot> So I currently have the alternate-install version of Unity install on my machine.  I really wanted to install Unity Server on my machine, but I could not get a good CD burned.  I have a good CD that I have tested, and I'd like to get server installed on my machine.  Is there any way to replace the current version with the Server version without messing up the applications I have configured already?
[05:01] <usr13> whatsyourname: It's for anyone that wants a world-class OS.
[05:02] <usr13> shreezbot: So you have ubuntu-desktop and want to switch to server?
[05:02] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i found a README file under scangearmp that mentions needed packages, so you need to check if you have those installed .. ubuntu puts those in packages with a -dev suffix, do you see what i'm refering to? i'll put them together in a command but might be good if you check too as i don't run 12.04 here
[05:02] <TJ-> ubuntu13: First, lets get you logged into a physical console we call a TTY. In a moment, I want you to press Ctrl+Alt+F1. The GUI will disappear and you *should* see a black text screen with "login:" ... if you do, type your username, press Enter. You'll get the "password:" prompt, type it, press Enter... that should log in to a shell. If you don't see the "login", or after you've logged in successfully, press Alt+F7 to return to this GUI and tell us what happened
[05:02] <viper_67> xangua: any ideas?
[05:03] <TJ-> ubuntu13: If you're happy with those instructions, go ahead
[05:03] <ubuntu13> TJ-, I do know a bit about that :P
[05:03] <whatsyourname> I still have no idea what's the relationship between linux and ubuntu
[05:03] <TJ-> ubuntu13: Yay! :D saves me some typing
[05:03] <shreezbot> usr13, Correct, that's exactly what I'd like to do...  :)
[05:04] <ubuntu13> TJ-,  What do you want me to do on the cli?
[05:04] <usr13> shreezbot: Well, just dissable the GUI, uninstall packages you don't need anymore, install additional ones as needed.
[05:04] <kostkon> !ubuntu | whatsyourname
[05:05] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK ... so once you've got the TTY logged in, log-out of the GUI so you're back to the GUI login screen, then Ctrl+Alt+F1 and do "sudo service lightdm stop"  then, load the nvidia kernel module "sudo modprobe nvidia" and then restart the GUI "sudo service lightdm start" and come back to us if you can work with the GUI at that point.
[05:05] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913144/ this?
[05:05] <shreezbot> usr13, I tried doing that and I ran into issues.  I removed Unity and it caused all kinds of issues.  I couldn't even get the machine to reboot...
[05:05] <whatsyourname> So it's created by public rather than a professional company like microsoft
[05:06] <ubuntu13> TJ-, ok. 1 min
[05:06] <usr13> shreezbot: You can edit /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" and then run sudo update-grub  Which will do away with GUI.
[05:06] <ubuntu13> TJ-, let me write this down
[05:06] <kostkon> whatsyourname: both. company is Canonical ltd
[05:07] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: exactly, i'm checking here what you need, the names aren't 100% usable in a command directly as ubuntu used other naming system, hang on please
[05:07] <usr13> shreezbot: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:07] <SlicedBread> yes
[05:07] <shreezbot> usr13, Sweet!  Thanks!  :)
[05:11] <shreezbot> usr13, Hot shit!  That worked like a champ!  Thanks man!  :)
[05:11] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: okay, the install README refers to libcncp*** files, i assume those are in the sources as they don't exist in ubuntu repos, so try: sudo apt-get install build-essential automake autoconf libgtk2.0-dev libgimp2.0-dev libltdl-dev libpng12-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev .. and when that's finished without errors we can try the sudo ./install.sh again and see what it does now
[05:13] <djapo> hello world what is the correct way of mapping capslock to ctrl, i tried loadkeys and a file with keycode 29 = Control, but instead of ctrl it locks ctrl
[05:13] <usr13> shreezbot: You don't have to do anything more than install what you want, and uninstall what you no longer need.  Now, not sure, but I suppose you could uninstall a *lot* of stuff by just uninstalling ubuntu-desktop  (Someone else here can confirm or not, but ....)
[05:14] <shreezbot> usr13, I'm fine as long as the stuff doesn't start up and I can reboot the server when I need to without having to reboot it twice.  Weird shit happened when I attempted to remove Unity....
[05:15] <usr13> shreezbot: Yea, I think removing ubuntu-desktop would be what you'd need to do.  I'm pretty sure anyway, but check that out and see.
[05:17] <crankharder> how do I tell what devices are actually mounted and which aren't since /etc/fstab no longer uses devices directly and uses UUIDs instead
[05:17] <usr13> shreezbot: /join #ubuntu-server
[05:17] <TJ-> crankharder: "lsblk"
[05:17] <tzs> crankharder: try mount
[05:17] <shreezbot> usr13, Sweet!  Doing that now  :)
[05:19] <romaniac737> crankharder: df might help
[05:21] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, big download this time :)
[05:22] <TJ-> ubuntu13: how did it go?
[05:22] <ubuntu13> TJ-, the nvidia driver didn't work. had to remove all that and revert to the nouveau.
[05:22] <TJ-> ubuntu13: That's a pain, what exactly went wrong?
[05:23] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, went smoothly. what next?
[05:23] <ubuntu13> TJ-, right after starting the gui I got the message that sys running in low res, and that I gotta configure manually, but neither kb nor mouse worked
[05:24] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK. Let's see if we can identify why. First, what does "cat /proc/cmdline" show?
[05:24] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: yes the dev packages probably, let's try: sudo ./install.sh .. again from that install_deb dir
[05:24] <ubuntu13> And even now there's apparently some problem that is detected and I reported it. don't know what :(
[05:25] <ubuntu13> TJ-, BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-15-generic root=UUID=c4e78afd-fb2f-4840-9e0f-1e64a3c388ee ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[05:25] <SlicedBread> no! exact error
[05:26] <Guest16361> Bluetooth To control music play/pause from bluetooth headset in ubuntu, is it done in pulseaudio module or other module, as i can't find any reference to BT AVRCP in pulseaudio
[05:26] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, that's good, no "nomodeset" to upset things, now lets find the log-file that shows the nvidia-attempt. Can you pastebin the output of "ls -latr /var/log/Xorg*"
[05:26] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: arghh, linux support from canon could be better, but that's not helpfull, realize that .. again that rather cryptic one?
[05:26] <SlicedBread> yep'
[05:27] <ubuntu13> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913183/
[05:27] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: hmm, i'm going to have a second look at that README, hang on
[05:28] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, a piece of the installs http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913184/
[05:30] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: confusing as the wording might be, that actually looks good imo
[05:30] <SlicedBread> :)
[05:30] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: up for attempt 4? :)
[05:30] <SlicedBread> lets ride!
[05:31] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, there are 2 or 3 I might need to look at, let's start with "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[05:31] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: cool, navigate the terminal to the 'scangearmp' dir this time
[05:31] <ubuntu13> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913198/
[05:32] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: and run: ./autogen.sh | pastebinit .. let it finish and post another url if you would
[05:33] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, the X nvidia driver started OK, but the kernel module wasn't there as it expected. So lets investigate that. "sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[05:33] <tgunr> Has anyone here used Clonezilla to restore a partition from an image? I'm having trouble understanding the sequence involved as it doesn't make sense.
[05:34] <tgunr> I get to the part where my image is mounted from an smb host and is available at /home/partimg, but the next step only hs savedisk and savepartition, there is no restore!
[05:34] <ubuntu13> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913203/
[05:34] <Arcanis_> Anyone know a good place to find a conky script?
[05:34] <SlicedBread> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913208/ glitsj16
[05:35] <Guest16361> Bluetooth To control music play/pause from bluetooth headset in ubuntu, is it done in pulseaudio module or other module, as i can't find any reference to BT AVRCP in pulseaudio
[05:37] <Arcanis_> Anyone? Conky scripts?
[05:38] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: try: sudo apt-get install libsane-dev && make clean && make
[05:38] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, there is no sign of nvidia even attempting to load. So we need to check it exists. "find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -type f -name 'nvidia*.ko' "
[05:39] <ubuntu13> TJ-, /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[05:40] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913225/
[05:40] <xangua> Arcanis_: gnome look, deviantart
[05:41] <SlicedBread> thanks glitsj16 you have patience of a saint
[05:41] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK, there's the problem... that's the frame-buffer driver, but I was expecting to see "updates/dkms/nvidia_331.ko"
[05:42] <Arcanis_> xangua, that's not a conky script.
[05:43] <ubuntu13> TJ-, so ?
[05:43] <TJ-> ubuntu13: this is narrowing things down nicely. So, now we need to ensure the nvidia package is installed and then that it is configured. "ls -ld /usr/src/nvidia*"
[05:44] <ubuntu13> TJ-, ls: cannot access /usr/src/nvidia*: No such file or directory
[05:44] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: no trouble, i wish i had the canon linux support phone # .. but i'm afraid it wouldn't be very saint-like what we can report about the state of their stuff :)
[05:44] <ubuntu13> TJ-, I had purged nvidia*
[05:44] <TJ-> ubuntu13: That'll be because you've purged :)
[05:44] <ubuntu13> TJ-, now what?
[05:44] <TJ-> ubuntu13: but that doesn't explain why the logs don't show the kernel module attempting to load at all
[05:45] <SlicedBread> Lol
[05:45] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: so that last error, line 136: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcncpnet might be another roadblock .. diving into that source again, hold on
[05:46] <ubuntu13> TJ-, could the desktop (window) manager tweaks cause any such problems? I had installed gnome-classis
[05:46] <ubuntu13> classic
[05:46] <TJ-> ubuntu13: do you have another (linux) PC you could use to remain on IRC, whilst using ssh to the problem PC to do non-GUI stuff?
[05:46] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: that lcncpnet looks like another canon file, let's see if i can track it down somewhere
[05:46] <TJ-> ubuntu13: I very much doubt it, the kernel driver not loading at all, that's a non GUI problem
[05:47] <ubuntu13> TJ-, unfortunately the mobo on the newer pc is going on RMA :(
[05:48] <ubuntu13> TJ-, I'm trying to set up this ubuntu to replace the other pc  for multimedia stuff temporarily
[05:49] <TJ-> ubuntu13: OK :) I've used a remote ssh session in the past to fix these kind of tricky issues, but its kind of hard without my own eyes and hands-on to spot what might be glaring clues. What you're experiencing certainly is *not* normal.
[05:50] <ubuntu13> TJ-, is there no "system restore" equivalent in ubuntu? like instances in solaris etc?
[05:52] <TJ-> ubuntu13: No
[05:53] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: think i found a possible fix: you see a dir called 'com/libs_bin64' in the source correct? we'll need to manually put those somewhere the make command will be able to find them .. so stay in the same terminal and try: sudo cp ../com/libs_bin64/* /usr/lib
[05:53] <ubuntu13> TJ-, So, there's no way to revert back to the bare-bones fresh install state without actually doing  another fresh install?
[05:54] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: if that goes thru ok you can do another: make clean && make
[05:54] <TJ-> ubuntu13: not without pre-existing snapshots via lvm, or btrfs
[05:56] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, where's that dir? com/libs_bin64
[05:57] <ubuntu13> TJ-, For "unattended", "unconfigured" out-of-the-box security, is Centos better or ubuntu?
[05:58] <TJ-> ubuntu13: That's like asking which is better, ham or bacon, on a pizza
[05:58] <sprink> obviously bacon
[05:58] <cfhowlett> bacon all the way
[05:58] <msgol_> ubuntu :)
[05:59] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: it's part of the source you extracted from the canon file, something like ~/Downloads/scangearmp-source-2.20-1/com/libsbin_64
[05:59] <TJ-> ubuntu13: In my experience I've had to do more with CentOS than with Ubuntu servers
[05:59] <msgol_> agreed TJ currently running one on 6.5
[05:59] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: typo: libs_bin64
[06:00] <SlicedBread> hm there's no com
[06:00] <SlicedBread> wait yes there is
[06:01] <TJ-> ubuntu13: I tend to think we're spoiled with Debian/Ubuntu archives, compared to others.
[06:01] <ubuntu13> TJ-, I'm so frustrated right now! Even the security app (comodo) on the 7 install is giving bsod. I just need a nice secure distro to download torrents and watch video in HD
[06:01] <duelex> anybody can tell me how to use empathy
[06:01] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, jose@jose:~/Documents/canon/driver/scangearmp-source-2.20-1$ make clean && makemake: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[06:02] <jose> shouldn't it be make && make install?
[06:02] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: did you change dir for that former command? or a typo perhaps, it should be: make clean && make
[06:03] <TJ-> ubuntu13: can you show me the output of "lspci -nn | grep VGA"
[06:03] <glitsj16> jose: correct! .. SlicedBread .. the saint is getting a bit tired heh, thanks jose to keep us on that road
[06:03] <jose> :)
[06:03] <ubuntu13> TJ-, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250] [10de:0615] (rev a2)
[06:03] <jose> SlicedBread: make && make install (in case you didn't catch it before)
[06:03] <whatsyourname> can i run excel on ubuntu?
[06:04] <SlicedBread> same error
[06:04] <cfhowlett> whatsyourname, use libreoffice calc
[06:04] <Psil0Cybin> If I use the command sudo umount /media/usbname would that remove my usb stick via the terminal properly without damaging it? If not, what is the proper way of removing a USB media point from the CLI?
[06:04] <SlicedBread> tried it in the root dir and in root/com/libs_bin64
[06:04] <ubuntu13> TJ-, The live cd works fine, and even  solaris 10 and 11 work fine on this gpu/monitor
[06:04] <jose> SlicedBread: is 'make && make install' giving you an error?
[06:04] <SlicedBread> yes j
[06:04] <SlicedBread> yes jose
[06:04] <jose> SlicedBread: could you please pastebin the error it gives to you?
[06:05] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: can you paste the error please
[06:05] <Frogg> I have an issue with suspend. I'm running 13.10 on a Toshiba Satellite L505D S5963
[06:05] <SlicedBread> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:05] <jose> SlicedBread: './configure'
[06:06] <jose> SlicedBread: let me know if that gives you an error
[06:06] <glitsj16> jose: SlicedBread ; in what dir did you run that command? we're already passed the configure stage
[06:06] <SlicedBread> jose, -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:06] <SlicedBread> scangearmp-source-2.20-1$
[06:07] <jose> SlicedBread, glitsj16: if you guys don't mind, can I take a peek at the source, in case you have a link?
[06:07] <TJ-> ubuntu13: I think the live ISO uses nouveau, but not 100% on that
[06:07] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: cd scangearmp && make clean && make
[06:07] <jose> glitsj16: maybe it's make --clean
[06:08] <SlicedBread> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913312/
[06:08] <glitsj16> jose: sure: the canon driver SlicedBread is trying to install is from http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100553202.html
[06:08] <SlicedBread> :)
[06:08] <Frogg> I have an issue with suspend. I'm running 13.10 64-bit on a Toshiba Satellite L505D S5963
[06:08] <jose> SlicedBread: try with make install now?
[06:09] <jose> 'make install' that it
[06:09] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: ok the make clean worked, now do: make
[06:09] <jose> glitsj16: you guys ran autogen.sh, right?
[06:10] <glitsj16> jose: i was trying to give SlicedBread a nicer removable deb by using checkinstall, but i think slicedbread won't mind at this stage bypassing that .. jose, yes we did
[06:10] <jose> ok, np then
[06:11] <jose> Frogg: could you please elaborate a bit more?
[06:11] <Frogg> Basically, when it goes into sleep mode once, and then resumes, the fan goes on full blast, and it will no longer go into sleep mode
[06:12] <pp_> https://www.evernote.com/shard/s289/sh/638398e3-836f-42ee-89c2-49c63a7a4344/baff46d1c7ab055c9f21f5674e44c45c/res/6a6a38d8-f252-43d1-92a9-60d88908498a/skitch.png
[06:12] <pp_> =)
[06:12] <SlicedBread> make install was cut off. jose here's make glitsj16 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913326/
[06:12] <ubuntu13> TJ-, so what do you suggest? reinstall this 13.10, or try an earlier nvidia driver or try some other distro? I currently have 7 and solaris on this hdd in multiboot. can't run too many virtual os in this shitty pc
[06:13] <jose> SlicedBread: make install was cut off by something about permissions?
[06:14] <SlicedBread> sorry should have been clearer. it was cut off by line limits of my terminal. everything went smoothly :)
[06:15] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: looks good this time .. try: sudo apt-get install checkinstall && sudo checkinstall -y --pkgname "scangearmp" --pkgversion "2.20-1" --pkgrelease "0ubuntu0"
[06:16] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: that should produce a .deb package and install it when nothing goes wrong, keeps us posted :)
[06:16] <TJ-> ubuntu13: I think to save too much more frustration, do a reinstall and immediately enable the nvidia proprietary driver and ensure it works correctly
[06:17] <jose> glitsj16: if make install went ok, then the package is already installed
[06:17] <Frogg> jose Basically, when it goes into sleep mode once, and then resumes, the fan goes on full blast, and it will no longer go into sleep mode
[06:18] <jose> Frogg: sorry, no idea on what's going on
[06:18] <SlicedBread> jose, glitsj16 wonderful! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913353/
[06:18] <glitsj16> jose: we didn't run the make install i think, not sure though .. in any case doing the checkinstall wouldn't hurt i guess
[06:19] <jose> SlicedBread: everything's good to go now :)
[06:19] <geoffrey2> Hey, folks. For some reason, my wlan is only picking up an ipv6 address, and not an ipv4 address
[06:19] <jose> SlicedBread: if you cannot find scangearmp on the dash, try running 'scangearmp' on the terminal
[06:20] <SlicedBread> ok it runs going to go connect it now
[06:21] <SlicedBread> hm
[06:21] <SlicedBread> printer is connected but it still displays that message of nothing being connected
[06:22] <nenex> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.
[06:22] <nenex> He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[06:22] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: did you try adding the printer again throught the CUPS interface at http://localhost:631? might need to remove the older and re-add
[06:23] <SlicedBread> nenex, I'm so sorry
[06:23] <nenex> Because he was from Africa.
[06:23] <cfhowlett> !ops|nenex,
[06:23] <nenex> And he misses his bongos, which he left at home when he was enslaved.
[06:23] <nenex> is this really an emergency?
[06:23] <nenex> sheesh I'm leaving.
[06:23] <nenex> you could have just asked
[06:23] <nenex> you faggot
[06:23] <nenex> :D
[06:24] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: made another typo, but you guessed the ? shouldn't be part of that url..
[06:24] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, I'm in the Add printer which model do I select?
[06:25] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: not sure, as close as you can get to your mg2520
[06:25] <SlicedBread> mg2200, mg3100, pixma-mg3100,
[06:25] <ubuntu13> TJ-, ok man. Will do a reinstall. Do need the grub2 for accessing the solaris bootloader
[06:25] <SlicedBread> ok
[06:26] <ubuntu13> TJ-, Thanks for all the help and your time
[06:26] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: try the pixma-mg3100 first, might have to try all, what isn't working you can remove later on thru the same interface again
[06:28] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: while you try a printer test, i'm still wondering if you need something else, what we did in the former steps is only make & install a scanner driver, or else i don't understand canon, which is quite possible :) but we'll see how things turn out on your end
[06:28] <_krux> anyone have a good script to rip cd's from multiple drives?
[06:29] <SlicedBread> pixma mg3100 didn't work
[06:30] <geoffrey2> Can anyone tell me how to get an ipv4 address for my wireless lan card? Its only showing an ipv6 address
[06:33] <SlicedBread> =\ none of these worked mg2100, mg2200, mg3100, pixmamg2100, pixmamg3100
[06:33] <SlicedBread> is there no way to get it to work programmactically?
[06:33] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i guess try with the other models you're offered in cups before we try to see what else might be needed, i'm looking at https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon-trunk this time but that doesn't offer an exact mg2520 driver neither .. i'll wait to see what you get before you might try adding that .. does it make sense to you that we only have a scanner driver installed?
[06:33] <SlicedBread> The only sign of life is a blinking light for mg3100, mg2100
[06:34] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, yes
[06:35] <SlicedBread> jose, scangearam isn't in the dash yet it works in the terminal
[06:36] <jose> SlicedBread: you'll have to start it from the terminal each time, then
[06:36] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: on the link you gave earlier, http://elementaryforum.org/forum/support-assistance/how-to_aa/2215-install-canon-pixma-mg2520-all-in-one-printer-scanner, it mentions trying the scanner from within gimp .. did you do that yet? just to see if the option is there in gimp and if it works?
[06:38] <SlicedBread> starting gimp
[06:38] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: we can make a .desktop file for ease of use, but i'm wondering if you need to add a printer diver next to the scanner driver .. jose, please feel free to add any insights, i'm not at all familiar with canon
[06:38] <glitsj16> s/diver/driver
[06:38] <jose> neither do I, but yeah, a .desktop file can be created
[06:39] <Nucleosynthesis> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with my cronjobs. I've tried to add as much information as I possible can. Both Cronjobs are failing, and the wget was working before I added the bash script. Nothing shows in the logs and they are not running. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913421/
[06:40] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, nothing in gimp going to restart computer brb
[06:41] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: okay
[06:45] <SlicedBread> still nothing in gimp
[06:45] <SlicedBread> no printed jobs too
[06:45] <SlicedBread> just blinking green from the power button
[06:46] <morpheus07> Hi guys i am using ubuntu 13.04. I want to see my mozzila browser in the user-agent format i.e similar to 'Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008121622 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.5'. How do i get it ?
[06:47] <b0x> with a firefox extension.
[06:47] <somsip> morpheus07: when you say 'mozzila' do you mean Firefox?
[06:47] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, jose what to do?
[06:47] <morpheus07> Yes in mean firefox
[06:48] <morpheus07> @b0x which extension ?
[06:48] <somsip> morpheus07: http://is.gd/aORMfb or http://is.gd/VLWfTT or loads of others probably
[06:48] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i checked the PPA you added before with the canon drivers, trying that is the only thing i can think of right now to get the printer going, but it might overwrite the scangear deb you've installed .. i suggest you put a copy of that on your HDD somewhere, try adding the PPA again and go over the cups routine together ..
[06:51] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: a longshot i realise, but that's not going to take long if you want to give it a go, although you've been through that routine so i can't say its very logical.. otherwise it might be a good idea to make a forum post about this and see what the ubuntu community comes up with.. don't feel forced into something you're not comfortable with though, only a suggestion
[06:54] <ignosticdaemon> ?
[06:55] <ignosticdaemon> hola?
[06:55] <linuxuz3r> hi ignosticdaemon
[06:56] <ignosticdaemon> lo
[06:56] <ignosticdaemon> drinkin?
[06:56] <somsip> !ot | ignosticdaemon
[06:56] <ignosticdaemon> bot-t-t-tot?
[06:57] <ignosticdaemon> whois isnt working..
[06:57] <somsip> ignosticdaemon: how so?
[06:58] <ignosticdaemon> left click click nothing happens
[06:59] <somsip> ignosticdaemon: left click what? You need to give more details about what you are trying to do
[06:59] <ignosticdaemon> Settings to remove logons/logoffs/etc prompts?    keep bans though.
[06:59] <SlicedBread> jose, glitsj16 going to post on the forums, before doing that, is there no way to override it and do some wishful programming? wishing for the correct data to be passed from the ubuntu box to the printer and back and forth?
[07:00] <somsip> ignosticdaemon: you mean in your IRC client? What is it?
[07:00] <ignosticdaemon> left click user drop down menu on user.   ubuntu 13wtvr  laptop
[07:00] <SlicedBread> create our own PPD maybe
[07:00] <ignosticdaemon> our?
[07:01] <ignosticdaemon> dialog privet window working?
[07:01] <ignosticdaemon> what have they done to my cynthia?
[07:01] <ignosticdaemon> :D
[07:02] <ignosticdaemon> privet as in beer
[07:02] <somsip> ignosticdaemon: still offtopic. Show some respect and stop now, eh?
[07:02] <ignosticdaemon> ya. ok/what/topic/am/i/on
[07:02] <cyhunterx> hi
[07:02] <somsip> ignosticdaemon: type '/topic'
[07:03] <ignosticdaemon> .no/
[07:03] <ignosticdaemon> ./i/refuse/too
[07:03] <somsip> !ops | ignosticdaemon
[07:03] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i wish there was, but i can't see it if the driver for the printer/scanner isn't referenced in cups i'm afraid .. no hands-on experience with creating a ppd
[07:04] <ignosticdaemon> peritusis?
[07:04] <Nucleosynthesis> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with my cronjobs. An educated guess and searching tells me that it is likely the path..but I'm not really understanding how to change/use the PATH. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913499/
[07:07] <cyhunterx> someone can help me?  i have this loop when i login. I found the bug but i need this for run Ruby. the problem is this line: eval "${rbenv init -)".
[07:08] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, i wish I understood this http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.7/postscript-driver.html
[07:08] <smak> and i have an issue with libminiupnpc-dev dependency libminiupnpc8
[07:09] <smak>  (= 1.6-3ubuntu1) but 1.6-precise2 is to be installed
[07:09] <smak> in the process i have broken other binaries heh
[07:15] <cyhunterx> someone can help me?  i have this loop when i login. I found the bug but i need this for run Ruby. the problem is this line: eval "${rbenv init -)".
[07:18] <smak> ey fixed my broken ones.. still cant make though
[07:18] <somsip> cyhunterx: "you should initialize rbenv before using it." http://is.gd/0T8vMa If stil stuck, try #ruby
[07:20] <latrolltrolol> hello all
[07:23] <starkiller> hello
[07:24] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, jose do you have any idea why mg3100.ppd wouldn't work? I'm looking through it now.
[07:24] <starkiller> lol i need advice
[07:30] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: can you post that somewhere? not familiar thoug with ppd files but i can see if i spot something
[07:30] <catch27> tes
[07:32] <somsip> !test | catch27
[07:32] <xiaolu> test
[07:32] <somsip> xiaolu: you too
[07:33] <catch27> --help
[07:33] <abc_harold>  /join #test
[07:33] <somsip> catch27: what is it you're needing?
[07:35] <Nucleosynthesis> I think I broke my cronjob -.-
[07:37] <Nucleosynthesis> Damn thing won't even do a wget anymore..
[07:40] <ubuntu13> TJ-,  Just reinstalled the 13.10 and the display is working gr8! Now should I run update or install the nvidia drivers first?
[07:41] <TJ-> ubuntu13: Which driver is it using right now? nouveau?
[07:42] <ubuntu13> TJ-, Gallium 0.4 on NV92
[07:43] <_krux> ubuntu13, sudo apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade && apt-get install nvidia-current
[07:44] <xiaolu> exit
[07:45] <ubuntu13> _krux, I previously did the update first and the nvidia driver then didn't work at all
[07:45] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, jose http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204685&highlight=mg2520
[07:45] <TJ-> ubuntu13: after what you've gone through, maybe enjoy 24 hours with a good display before installing nvidia!
[07:45] <ttal> anyone have a preference between open office and libre office?
[07:46] <ubuntu13> LOL, TJ- , But I wanna watch the downloaded videos. The default driver is too slow :(
[07:46] <_krux> ubuntu13, what video card do you have? lspci
[07:47] <ubuntu13> _krux, wait man, have to install pastebin stuff and all... 1 min
[07:47] <ubuntu13> _krux, gts 250 1gb
[07:48] <_krux> and when you install nvidia drivers what happens?
[07:50] <ubuntu13> _krux, tons of unreasonable stuff happened. TJ- will know what. Here's your lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913664/
[07:51] <_krux> you have tell me exactly what happened
[07:52] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: bookmarked that, i've been looking at a few other PPA's that offer canon printer drivers for 12.04 but it looks a bit of a mess, they all use different package names, refer to different printer models and/or builds for amd64 debs have failed .. i'll add what i've found to the forum page together with any suggestions i run into
[07:52] <_krux> ubuntu13, X won't start?
[07:52] <_krux> ubuntu13, glxgears has low FPS?
[07:53] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, thanks a lot. you're a champion.
[07:53] <mtien> hello all. i need some help installing chrome. just downloaded from the website using firefox. what to do next?
[07:53] <ubuntu13> _krux, sorry for the delay. Well, the gui just wouldn't start and won't even let me configure. The nvidia kernel  was not loading at all
[07:54] <ubuntu13> _krux, I don't know what glxgears is
[07:55] <pibby> mtien: what type of file did it download? .deb?
[07:55] <BiggerMao> Hi there, anyone here familiar with "strace"?  I'm trying to figure out why a program is randomly crashing (maybe once every 100 runs), but strace generates a ton of output that I don't know how to parse through.
[07:56] <apofis> BiggerMao: check dmesg
[07:56] <apofis> BiggerMao: when app crashed just call "dmesg" and see what you got in kernel log ;)
[07:57] <giantfaggot> ubuntu is for niggers
[07:57] <apofis> BiggerMao: if app is up and running : strace -p <pid>
[07:57] <ubuntu13> giantfaggot, bad language
[07:58] <BiggerMao> apofis, thanks. I didn't know app crashes got reported to dmesg
[07:58] <Nucleosynthesis> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with my cronjobs. An educated guess and searching tells me that it is likely the path..but I'm not really understanding how to change/use the PATH. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6913499/
[07:58] <_krux> ubuntu13, could be a problem with dkms. try update-grub after installing the nvidia module?
[07:58] <apofis> BiggerMao: everything is in the logs :)
[07:59] <BiggerMao> Not all error messages go there, do they?  The error message I am getting is "cut: command not found", but "cut" is definitely in the PATH.  I imagine it's coming from a script, the program that I'm running has a few layers of scripts
[07:59] <mtien> pibby, sorry. it downloaded .rpm file.
[07:59] <ubuntu13> _krux, updated grub after adding solaris menuentry and changing boot order, but not after installing nvidia
[07:59] <geirha> Nucleosynthesis: Setting PATH like that in the script is good
[08:00] <mtien> i'm new to this ubuntu. is there something in ubuntu that's similar to .exe?
[08:00] <Nucleosynthesis> Yeah, but for some ungodly reason, neither the wget nor the bash script are actually running.
[08:00] <_krux> ubuntu13, what's that about solaris?
[08:00] <geirha> Nucleosynthesis: Your issue appears to be that your script has windows line endings (did you edit it with a windows editor?). It needs to be UNIX line endings. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/052
[08:01] <apofis> mtien: exe is only an extension - true is it does not mean something - it;s a matter of naming convention
[08:01] <ubuntu13> _krux, I'm on my old pc now, because my new motherboard is en-route to it's maker, and I have 3 OS in multi-boot
[08:01] <xangua> mtien: download the .deb package from the google chrome site
[08:01] <pibby> mtien: you want a .deb file, try following this guide and make sure you pick a deb file (32-bit or 64-bit, depending on your setup) http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-linux-12-xx-13-xx/
[08:01] <Nucleosynthesis> Doh, Yeah I did it on Windows7 w/ Sublime Text. Let me go try that geirha. Thanks!
[08:01] <geirha> Nucleosynthesis: Or actually, the ^M appears to be in your crontab, though check the script as well
[08:01] <Guest62960> i keep forgetting how to change nick
[08:02] <_krux> ubuntu13, installing nvidia needs dkms. If you have the wrong framebuffer device loaded it might interfere with nvidia loading.
[08:02] <geirha> Nucleosynthesis: the edtior probably has an option somewhere to "save with unix line endings" or something like that
[08:02] <mtien> hmm. pibby, so it has to be in .deb extension? rpm is useless?
[08:02] <ttal> when opening a link from terminal, can you specify the window size? ie: "chromium-browser -new-window https://mail.google.com/tasks/canvas?pli=1"
[08:03] <apofis> Nucleosynthesis: when your script is run bash simple checks where is should search for commands - that's it
[08:03] <ubuntu13> _krux, I have absolutely no idea about all that. Just what is the right way to do it?
[08:03] <pibby> mtien: yes, rpm is for redhat, fedora, etc.
[08:03] <mtien> ok. thanks.
[08:03] <_krux> ubuntu13, nvidia uses a diff console driver, it doesn't coexist with many others, do you notice a resolution change in the boot process after installing nvidia?
[08:03] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: would you be willing to check if https://launchpad.net/~auanswers/+archive/canon64 offers anything usefull? routine is similar to the other PPA you've tried before: sudo apt-get install libxml2:i386; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:auanswers/canon64; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cndrvcups-common cndrvcups-lipslx cndrvcups-ufr2-us .. forgot whether you still have the other one so if you do purge it with: sudo ppa-purge ppa:m
[08:03] <_krux> rpm is for people that like headaches
[08:04] <Nucleosynthesis> It would be sufficient to just remake it in nano/vi/vim correct?
[08:04] <apofis> BiggerMao: your app is a bash script ?
[08:04] <mtien> pibby, it seems to be working. thanks.
[08:05] <apofis> BiggerMao: if yes simple update shebang to '#!/bin/bash -x'
[08:05] <ubuntu13> _krux, One thing though. I noticed that the BIOS had display adapter set to "auto", and I just changed it to PCI-e manually, before reinstalling ubuntu. Could that be something? The nvidia-driver didn't let me see any screen at all. No gui.
[08:05] <apofis> BiggerMao: and run it again
[08:05] <apofis> BiggerMao: it will run bash in a debug/verbose mode
[08:06] <ubuntu13> _krux, The nouveau driver had problems. Including undetected graphics hw, monitor res etc
[08:06] <_krux> ubuntu13, that could be it...revert the change in the BIOS unless that change got the system working
[08:07] <pibby> mtien: you're welcome!
[08:07] <mtien> btw, anyone here have trouble with hdmi sound not working when connecting a desktop computer to a tv via hdmi?
[08:07] <_krux> ubuntu13, if it did then you don't want to mess with it...if that change occured before things went haywire then change it back
[08:07] <mtien> this is one issue that's still vexing me to this day.
[08:08] <Nucleosynthesis> Thanks apofis and geirha! That was the problem
[08:08] <ubuntu13> _krux, it's working fine now, so I don't think the BIOS setting is causing any problem. But the question is, will the nvidia driver work?
[08:08] <starkiller> hello XD
[08:09] <ubuntu13> _krux,  I changed just right now, before re-installing this one
[08:09] <starkiller> im looking for someting like filezilla but more user friendly XD
[08:09] <SlicedBread> libxml2:i386 already installed; auanswers/canon64 went great; next install went great; glitsj16 next?
[08:09] <linuxlite> hello i have a problem with grub
[08:09] <mtien> i'm also hoping to make palm m505 work with ubuntu is that's possible.
[08:10] <linuxlite> help me i installed android on mu ubuntu when i boot into android it says error file not found 2x then error must load the kernel first. what should i do
[08:11] <ubuntu13> _krux, can I make a "snapshot" now, before trying the nvidia? I don't have any lvm etc?
[08:12] <_dan_> hi, i have a qq about filesystem mounting
[08:12] <_dan_> if i mount a filesystem without specifying either sync or async option, what happens?
[08:12] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: try to add it to cups and do a print test
[08:13] <gimpygoo> Hello everyone.
[08:14] <_dan_> cat /proc/mounts shows neither option
[08:14] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: it *probably* doesn't add a scanner driver but you might be able to get it to print, hope you get further than a blinking led this time :)
[08:14] <_dan_> does it do some sort of hybrid then?
[08:14] <morpheus07> Hi guys i want to know my browser's user-agent detail for mozzila firefox. how do u go about ??
[08:15] <alex88> morpheus07: http://whatsmyuseragent.com/
[08:15] <gimpygoo> Anyone familiar with wacom tablets available to help me?
[08:16] <apofis> _dan_: I think async is default for all removable devices
[08:16] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, hp printer?
[08:16] <BiggerMao> apofis, thanks, I just saw your message.  There are ~3 layers of scripts, some are bash and some are csh. (I didn't write this program) Should I just modify the shebang for each one, is that the best way?
[08:17] <BiggerMao> apofis, the other issue is that there are as many as 50 scripts in this directory.  It might take some time to figure out which ones are being called.
[08:17] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: i would have expected a canon reference, did the HP showed up before in CUPS?
[08:18] <apofis> BiggerMao: sounds like a messy stuff :) -x will work only for bash scripts of course
[08:18] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, woops pritner was off. there is 3 canon references....
[08:18] <ubuntu13> I'd really appreciate some help with setting up a snapshot so I can revert back to this working driver if nvidia screws up again
[08:18] <apofis> BiggerMao: but it should give you an overview what and where can be broken
[08:18] <_dan_> apofis: what about non-removable?  ie. the root FS
[08:19] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: ahh, like before, i'd try anything with a number closest to yout mg2520 but adding/testing one of those 3 might work
[08:19] <BiggerMao> apofis, thanks.  You are right, it is very messy.  This program is scientific software which tends to be messy :P
[08:19] <ubuntu13> :(
[08:20] <apofis> _dan_: async is default - just checked
[08:20] <apofis> _dan_: defaults: use default options: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async.
[08:20] <Someduck> 90 btc invested in #duckduckcoin IPO, Premine stolen! launch about to come. join in and pick up a few bits of quack!
[08:21] <quackgyver> You can't say quack. That's our word
[08:22] <gimpygoo> I love ubuntu. I really do. I should be able to switch perm if I can get my damn wacom tablet to be recognized. Please help me get outa this windows hell . :)
[08:22] <BiggerMao> apofis, one moment, i'll pastebin and show you
[08:22] <_dan_> hrm, ok
[08:22] <apofis> gimpygoo: which model ?
[08:22] <gimpygoo> its an intuos pro (small)
[08:22] <gimpygoo> I have both the required packages installed I believe....
[08:22] <BiggerMao> http://bpaste.net/show/S1riSL2gfe7PevY0aZ6Q/
[08:23] <apofis> gimpygoo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284284/wacom-tablet-support-in-ubuntu
[08:23] <SlicedBread> so far all blinking. but there is more to test. glebihan
[08:23] <SlicedBread> glitsj16, *
[08:23] <BiggerMao> I think "cut" is working 99% of the time, it just gets "command not found" about 1% of the time.
[08:24] <apofis> BiggerMao: u can always replace cut by /usr/bin/cut :)
[08:24] <BiggerMao> apofis, good idea :) that just might solve it
[08:25] <glitsj16> SlicedBread: you're courageous to keep going at this, i have to get some sleep but i'll check the forum page tomorrow if you add your findings, take care & goodluck :)
[08:25] <apofis> BiggerMao: nice mix - u even got Perl scripts :D
[08:25] <ruben23> hi guys i have 50 PC and we would liek to install desktop ubuntu on it any solutions to install it on network at the same time..? any idea..?
[08:25] <BiggerMao> apofis, not my fault! :D
[08:26] <BiggerMao> the code was written by a mix of grad students (I admit I contributed a bit, but not to the script part.)
[08:26] <gimpygoo> You buy a bunch at one ruben23 ? lol
[08:26] <vlt> ruben23: There are several ways. You could install one machine and just duplicate the disks.
[08:26] <_dan_> how can i know for sure if async option is used?  it doesn't appear in cat /proc/mounts
[08:26] <ruben23> im planning to do it on network install somehow
[08:27] <_dan_> - /dev/root / ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=writeback 0 0
[08:27] <SlicedBread> thanks glitsj16 you're a champ!
[08:29] <apofis> ruben23: boot from network (pbx it was called or something lieke this) + kickstart: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[08:29] <ubuntu13> should I install mplayer before nvidia? would that work?
[08:29] <vlt> PXE
[08:29] <apofis> thx :)
[08:30] <vlt> ruben23: Just in case: Are you aware of ltsp.org?
[08:30] <dhruvasagar> Hi, is there an alternative to heyfocus.com app for ubuntu ?
[08:30] <morpheus07> Is there any way to find out an exploit if ports are filtered ?
[08:30] <TJ-> ruben23: as I said last night, Cobbler is the tool.
[08:30] <vlt> ruben23: I know this is not what you asked ... but maybe you actually want this ;-)
[08:30] <dhruvasagar> is it possible to temporarily block certain sites ?
[08:30] <apofis> morpheus07: read about nmap
[08:31] <TJ-> ruben23: you can specify the preseed file to configure the hosts exactly as required
[08:31] <ruben23> TJ-: yes i have checked cobbler its just dont have proper documentation how to implement..having hardtime
[08:31] <vlt> dhruvasagar: There’s a chromium add-on. Something with procrastinate …
[08:31] <morpheus07> Yea. I read about it. I treated all the hosts as on line and also didnt use the ping option but still it is being shown that ports are being filtered !
[08:32] <dhruvasagar> vlt: ok wil check
[08:32] <apofis> Cobbler seems to be similar to Puppet - but this is my guess
[08:32] <apofis> am I right ?
[08:33] <jonoinfrance> Hi guys, I'm getting a weird problem. The sudo command no longer has access to my display. I'm getting "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" whenever I try to start a text editor or whatever with sudo. Gksudo fails silently
[08:33] <vlt> dhruvasagar: "StayFocusd"
[08:33] <TJ-> ruben23: cobbler is one of the better-documented deployment solutions... there's some good user guides too, such as http://www.colinmcnamara.com/setting-up-cobbler-pxe-auto-deployment-for-ubuntu-server-12-04-precise/
[08:33] <dhruvasagar> vlt: yea just found it
[08:33] <jonoinfrance> even xhost + doesn't help
[08:34] <TJ-> apofis: puppet is for maintaining a configuration, cobbler is for deployment
[08:35] <morpheus07> @apofis: I tried -Pn -sT -sS but still no result
[08:35] <apofis> TJ-: got it, thx, so it;s closer to capistrano ?
[08:35] <apofis> morpheus07: 6 months ago somebody kicked my a** because of using @name :D old style
[08:36] <apofis> morpheus07: nmap -v -sV -P0 -O -A host
[08:36] <apofis> morpheus07: or u wanna check local ports ?
[08:36] <morpheus07> Yes
[08:36] <apofis> morpheus07: use netstat or ss command
[08:37] <apofis> morpheus07: netstat -apnt - will list open ports on your local machine
[08:37] <apofis> morpheus07: or ss -aln
[08:38] <morpheus07> I actually am doing a project for my college and i host a website on a server, inside the college. My college uses A-Class private IP.
[08:38] <morpheus07> I want to do some test for security.
[08:38] <morpheus07> *purposes
[08:38] <apofis> morpheus07: yeah right :P
[08:39] <morpheus07> I need to use nmap or netstat for this ?
[08:39] <apofis> morpheus07: nmap is a port scanner (one of many ;) )
[08:39] <apofis> morpheus07: u can use nmap against any host
[08:40] <apofis> morpheus07: netstat is only a netstat - just shows you what you got on local machine in terms of open sockets
[08:40] <dhruvasagar> how can I set a global http proxy programmatically (from shell )?
[08:43] <jonoinfrance> Anyone want to help a poor noob with some sudo trouble? :)
[08:44] <apofis> jonoinfrance: hmm will try - I do not play much with gsudo, ksudo and all these funcy thiongs :P
[08:45] <jonoinfrance> I usually don't but I use them to edit text files that my user account doesn't have the permission to
[08:45] <somsip> jonoinfrance: which files, and what's the problem?
[08:45] <apofis> jonoinfrance: I would try with gksu
[08:45] <jonoinfrance> Now it runs fine with command line stuff, but whenever a display is needed, I get an error message
[08:45] <apofis> jonoinfrance: sudo apt-get install gksu
[08:45] <somsip> !gksudo | jonoinfrance
[08:46] <jonoinfrance> Hi guys, I'm getting a weird problem. The sudo command no longer has access to my display. I'm getting "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" whenever I try to start a text editor or whatever with sudo. Gksudo fails silently
[08:46] <jonoinfrance> (earlier message)
[08:46] <somsip> jonoinfrance: so use gksudo. Should be installed by default
[08:47] <ubuntu13> Hey guys! I need a current codec package for use with mplayer.  Any help?
[08:47] <jonoinfrance> it is, but doesn't work either, as mentionned above, it just fails silently
[08:47] <jonoinfrance> Everything worked fine until yesterday
[08:48] <somsip> jonoinfrance: what are you trying to run? If you used sudo, it could have nasty side effects
[08:48] <cfhowlett> ubuntu13, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:48] <jonoinfrance> Basically sublime text editor
[08:48] <zykotick9> jonoinfrance: are you in screen/tmux by chance?
[08:48] <jonoinfrance> Nope, normal terminal
[08:49] <somsip> jonoinfrance: easy solution to the editing - use 'sudo nano' for an easy command line editor. Otherwise, any errors at all from gksudo sublime?
[08:49] <jonoinfrance> I tried xhost + to see if it was just a permissions problem but no change
[08:49] <jonoinfrance> No errors, it just doesn't work
[08:49] <jonoinfrance> It loads for a few seconds and stops
[08:50] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: check /var/log/auth.log
[08:51] <jonoinfrance> ok, looking at it now, I'm looking for some kind of error message right?
[08:51] <_dan_> ah crap, i added async option to my fstab and now server doesnt boot
[08:51] <_dan_> :<
[08:51] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: any auth command should be recorded there, success or failure
[08:52] <morpheus07> I still am getting ports as filtered
[08:52] <morpheus07> apofis
[08:53] <apofis> jonoinfrance: yes ?
[08:53] <jonoinfrance> http://pastebin.com/F1DJgdep
[08:53] <jonoinfrance> nothing special
[08:54] <morpheus07> apofis: I still am getting filtered ports.
[08:54] <apofis> jonoinfrance: can u paste on pastebin what you do and what result you receive ? probably your firewall is active
[08:55] <jonoinfrance> I doubt it, I haven't changed any firewall configs. I'll paste that now
[08:58] <jonoinfrance> http://pastebin.com/JDsc2wef
[09:02] <apofis> jonoinfrance: u try to run this stuff on local machine ?
[09:02] <jonoinfrance> yep
[09:02] <apofis> jonoinfrance: or u call it on some remote machine ?
[09:02] <jonoinfrance> local
[09:03] <apofis> jonoinfrance: if local - gksu
[09:03] <apofis> jonoinfrance: at last works on my pc box
[09:03] <jonoinfrance> Nothing related to sudo works
[09:03] <jonoinfrance> gksu dies silently like gksudo
[09:03] <gimpygoo> When you change your gui from say unity to kde, are you just changing the way ubuntu looks? Or do you change more then that?
[09:04] <apofis> jonoinfrance: gksudo subl
[09:04] <somsip> jonoinfrance: I found a stackoverflow suggest to 'gksudo sublime &'. Same with gksu. Worth a try?
[09:04] <apofis> jonoinfrance: run sublime text as r00t
[09:04] <fralle> somebody knows howto enabel scroll whell in evince (saucy)
[09:04] <fralle> ?
[09:05] <jonoinfrance> @somsip Unfortunately, nothing happens
[09:05] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: is it just sublime that fails, or do other commands ? If only sublime, I'd 1st check an existing instance is not running, then I'd check for a sublime log, or check any recent changes to its config file
[09:05] <somsip> jonoinfrance: wortha  suggestion. I does seem that sublime and sudo causes problems. Does it run okay without sudo or does it still crash?
[09:05] <jonoinfrance> anything that needs a display is failing, gedit, sublime ..
[09:06] <jonoinfrance> runs fine without sudo
[09:06] <jonoinfrance> tried sudo su, then running sublime, same error
[09:06] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: can you do "sudo -i" ? If so, do that, then check in the "/root/" directory for clues, using something like "ls -latr /root/"
[09:07] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: It sounds as if something set in the root user's profile, is causing the issue
[09:07] <jonoinfrance> sudo -i worked, I'll check the root folder
[09:08] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: Then also, as root user, try "strace -o /tmp/sublime.log -f sublime" and then review the log-file for clues
[09:10] <jonoinfrance> The only thing I remember doing with sudo was changing the config so that it kept user environment variables
[09:10] <jonoinfrance> Don't suppose that would do any harm would it?
[09:11] <ruben23> hi guys need help, just freshly install ubuntu server 12.04 LTS ----> http://pastebin.com/T2wbCMyn <--------------i get this error when i update
[09:11] <TJ-> ruben23: I responded in #ubuntu-server
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !server|ruben23,
[09:12] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: Yes, that would be very likely
[09:12] <morpheus07> Is there any method to exploit filtered ports ?
[09:13] <jonoinfrance> Hum, okay, I'll go and change that back and see what happens
[09:13] <jonoinfrance> I only did it so that sudo apt-get install would keep the http_proxy I set
[09:14] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: You can set a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[09:15] <jonoinfrance> Yeah but it is really temporary and I switch it on and off all the time, I thought that my way would be easier but apparently not
[09:16] <jonoinfrance> Actually, it is only set to keep the proxy variables, so shouldn't be causing any trouble
[09:16] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: you can pass a proxy to apt-get using the --option parameter
[09:16] <jonoinfrance> hum, I'll try that in the future
[09:17] <morpheus07> Hi guys, Is there any method to exploit filtered ports ?
[09:17] <somsip> morpheus07: what exactly are you asking?
[09:17] <jonoinfrance> Okay, got it
[09:18] <jonoinfrance> in visudo instead of typing:
[09:18] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: e.g. "sudo apt-get -o Acquire::http::Proxy=http://10.254.251.1:3142 install <package>"
[09:18] <morpheus07> I run a server on a particular ip address and the ports are being shown filtered. Is there any way to exploit those ports ?
[09:18] <jonoinfrance> "Defaults env_keep +="http_proxy https_proxy"
[09:18] <jonoinfrance> I put
[09:18] <jonoinfrance> "Defaults env_keep = "http_proxy https_proxy"
[09:19] <jonoinfrance> Which explains a lot
[09:19] <somsip> morpheus07: you mean they're blocked? What are they blocked by?
[09:19] <TJ-> jonoinfrance: that'd do it :D
[09:19] <jonoinfrance> Thanks guys ;)
[09:20] <morpheus07> That's what i want to know. I think there is a firewall somewhere in between.
[09:20] <somsip> morpheus07: is it your server or hosted?
[09:21] <morpheus07> I host a website on a server, inside my college where they use A-class IP address.
[09:22] <somsip> morpheus07: this doesn't appear to be anything to do with ubuntu. Waaaay off topic
[09:23] <morpheus07> oops i am sorry
[09:23] <morpheus07> where should i ask this ?
[09:23] <somsip> morpheus07: your college IT department
[09:23] <cfhowlett> :)
[09:45] <yeyeman> why does start/stop vlc player via unity panel have a 1 second delay?
[09:45] <yeyeman> it's annoying
[09:45] <Guest7981> use anybody lirc on ubuntu ?
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !anyone|Guest7981,
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: what CPU do you have?
[09:46] <yeyeman> ActionParsnip, 8 core amd 3.1 ghz
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: well that's not an issue then :)
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: tried a different video output metod in settings?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: are there any bugs reported?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: does it stop ok if you use VLC itself?
[09:47] <yeyeman> ActionParsnip, it's when I'm listening to music that it happens
[09:47] <Guest7981> ok sorry for english
[09:48] <yeyeman> ActionParsnip, if I stop on vlc itself it's no delay
[09:48] <Guest7981> dose anyone use lirc on ubuntu ?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Guest7981, what is your first language?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: then it sounds like a bug in Compiz and / or Unity
[09:48] <Guest7981> i want configure it but i can't .
[09:48] <yeyeman> right well I guess I have no choice but to install windows 8
[09:49] <Guest7981> farsi
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: what? for a 1 second delay? are you serious?
[09:49] <yeyeman> no I was just kidding
[09:49] <cfhowlett> clearly no choice
[09:49] <cfhowlett> !info farsi
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: its a tiny tiny bug...you could report it
[09:49] <cfhowlett> !persian
[09:49] <Guest7981> yes
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: if you run:   ubuntu-bug vlc    it will start the process
[09:50] <bazhang> !ir
[09:50] <cfhowlett> bazhang, thanks
[09:50] <yeyeman> Actually, speaking of little bugs, I switched from debian xfce to ubuntu unity just because there was a delay when switching between workspaces
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:51] <yeyeman> some things just are deal breakers
[09:51] <yeyeman> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: No Unity2D there (sadly), have you tried Gnome-shell from the Ubuntu repos?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: it doesnt use Compiz which may help
[09:52] <yeyeman> I'm happy with this setup for now
[09:53] <yeyeman> ubuntu is pretty great once you disable almost everything
[09:53] <Guest9049> shame you cant get Compiz to work with GNOME 3.10
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: I find it great if you install minimal then lxde and slim :)
[09:54] <yeyeman> most important: Disable the amazon botnet
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest9049: you can, that is default in 14.04
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: dont even have it installed, I use LXDE
[09:55] <yeyeman> ActionParsnip, lxde is cool, but a bit extreme for any kind of daily usage
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: its not a botnet either
[09:55] <cfhowlett> yeyeman, just use a different desktop environment.  it's easy
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: daily use? log in, launch browser, look at cat videos. Works well
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: same in any DE
[09:55] <yeyeman> ActionParsnip, haha well I guess we have different projects going on
[09:56] <Guest9049> Oh really? ActionParsnip thats cool - although i'm using 13.10 at the moment
[09:57] <yeyeman> any KDE users here? I'm interested in that DE, but the default look is very ugly
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !kde
[09:58] <yeyeman> it's like the designers are stuck in the awesomeness of windows vista transparency
[09:58] <yeyeman> and glowing window boarders from hell
[10:00] <rabbitear_sdf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6tw6QWMneQ
[10:01] <phuh> i heard 14.04 will be amazing
[10:01] <phuh> IS THAT TRUE?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !trusty|phuh,
[10:02] <phuh> it doesn't say it's amazing
[10:02] <cfhowlett> phuh, it DOES say that #ubuntu+1 is the place for the discussion though
[10:03] <phuh> :( :( :(
[10:04] <yeyeman> phuh: This channel is designated for reading automated messages and strictly discussing the current release only.
[10:04]  * phuh feels so much hatred in the channel
[10:06] <Devil_> hi
[10:06] <cfhowlett> Devil_, greetings
[10:06] <Devil_> : )
[10:07] <yeyeman> Welcome
[10:07] <phuh> yeyeman: hi
[10:08] <welly> Hello all. I've got an internal dev server which has been set up with public key authentication for ssh and password authentication disabled. I've edited sshd_config to disable public key authentication and enable password authentication but so far, no luck in logging in with a password. Am I missing something?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> !server|welly, if no answer here, see the other channel
[10:09] <yeyeman> phuh: Hello there.
[10:09] <phuh> :) :) :)
[10:10] <welly> Ignore me, it's working now.
[10:29] <jozefk> test
[10:30] <cfhowlett> !testing|jozefk,
[10:30] <jozefk> I am testing the IRC client :)
[10:32] <dusf1_> i am following a guide to recover an encypted home dir but it mentions mounting it through the file system, can you pleae tell me the correct command to mount say /home/dusf through terminal?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !mount|dusf1_,
[10:37] <chalcedony> my husband is getting errors in his update of ubuntu 13.04 - where does he need to go?
[10:37] <dusf1_> cfhowlett: i have done a sudo mkdir /mnt/dusf and sudo mount /home/dusf /mnt/dusf but it gives the error mount: /home/dusf is not a block device?
[10:37] <Hix> got some weirdness going on with the screen command. Using tab completion seems to hang the process. I can CTRL + C to create a new screen but this seems dead too. Anyone expereienced it? Googling screen just churns up millions of monitor hits
[10:38] <cfhowlett> dusf1_, my own experience with encrypted filesystems is limited.  sorry. ask again in this channel.
[10:38] <cfhowlett> chalcedony, 13.04 is out of support/end of life.  time to upgrade
[10:38] <dusf1_> cfhowlett: np, ty
[10:38] <chalcedony> cfhowlett, yes how should he do that, is 13.10 enough or does he need to go to 14.04 ?
[10:40] <dusf1_> i am following a guide to recover an encrypted home dir but it wants me to mount through the Places on ubuntu live but i am logged into the original ubuntu desktop. is there a way to mounthome through the CLI? i have done a sudo mkdir /mnt/dusf and sudo mount /home/dusf /mnt/dusf but it gives the error mount: /home/dusf is not a block device?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> chalcedony, 14.04 is still in alpha so unless he wants to do some beta testing ...
[10:41] <Hix> is 13.10 LTS?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> dusf1_, I'd highly recommend torrenting the LTS release (12.04)  that'll hold him until 14.04 is released in April?
[10:41] <DJones> Hix: No
[10:42] <cfhowlett> Hix, it is no
[10:42] <cfhowlett> not
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !lts
[10:42] <DJones> Hix: 12.04 is current LTS release, 14.04 will be LTS
[10:42] <chalcedony> this is why i switched to debian. y'all are hyperactive
[10:42] <Hix> damn, I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 recently
[10:43] <DJones> Hix: Just be aware 13.04 is now EOL so you won't get updates for it
[10:43] <cfhowlett> Hix, choices to make --- you can run 13.10 as it's supported until April - just in time for 14.04
[10:43] <cfhowlett> Hix, or drop back to 12.04 and upgrade to 14.04 LTS in April
[10:44] <Hix> Yup, think that could be the cause of the whole screen weirdmess thing. think I'll live with 13.10>14.04 for the time. It's not such a ballache to upgrade really
[10:45] <Hix> hmmm. problem is I can now not exit screen and cannot kill the ssh session as IRC uses it as a proxy here at work. any ideas? CTRL C is doing nothing, just three unresponsive screens I can switch between, but do nowt with
[10:45] <TeraJL> i have a keyboard with a zoom key and shortcuts, but when i use "xev" to see in what they result, i get nothing... all the other keys are fine
[10:52] <pi___> hello
[10:58] <oz0ne> .
[11:02] <shibly> Hi
[11:04] <Hix> cfhowlett / DJones
[11:05] <Hix> oops, would you advise upgrading over ssh or not?
[11:05] <shibly> Is ubuntuforums.org support available here?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Hix, yeah?
[11:05] <Hix> sorry, line after
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Hix, personally I don't do upgrades - better success with .torrent the iso and clean installations.  YMMV
[11:06] <Hix> cfhowlett ok, thanks
[11:07] <Fusssel> hi all
[11:08] <cfhowlett> Fusssel, greetings
[11:08] <witheld1> Hix: ignore him, upgrading is fine, he's livig six years in the past
[11:08] <Fusssel> im on 14.04 and the last update seems to destroyed the german keyboardlayout
[11:08] <witheld1> Hix: I upgrade from CLI all the time, it's never a big deal, ever
[11:09] <witheld1> .just run do-release-upgrade and wait for it to finish
[11:09] <cfhowlett> !worksforme
[11:09] <Hix> witheld1 I'm SSH'ing remotely into a headless box, still safe?
[11:09] <witheld1> cfhowlett: that's nice, but can you find me official documentation saying otherwise?
[11:10] <witheld1> cfhowlett: oh wait, I'M quoting the official documentation
[11:10] <witheld1> Hix: never had issues, especially with headless boxes
[11:10] <Fusssel> can i get help here for prereleased versions or is there a other place?
[11:10] <Hix> ok, what's the worse that could happen :)
[11:10] <cfhowlett> Fusssel, next version support in #ubuntu+1
[11:10] <witheld1> could start a war
[11:10] <witheld1> but that's pretty unlikely
[11:11] <Fusssel> cfhowlett thx
[11:12] <rknol> hello there friends
[11:12] <cfhowlett> rknol, greetings
[11:12] <rknol> i've come across a very unfortunate issue using APT
[11:12] <rknol> first off
[11:12] <chalcedony> http://askubuntu.com/questions/5763/upgrading-from-the-command-line
[11:12] <rknol> i don't know anything about the history of this server
[11:13] <rknol> or what has caused this
[11:13] <rknol> but here's the error message:
[11:13] <rknol> https://dpaste.de/O26t
[11:13] <cfhowlett> rknol, server?  maybe better asked in #ubuntu-server ...
[11:13] <rknol> okay
[11:14] <witheld1> rknol: did you run apt-get update and the run what it told you to?
[11:14] <rknol> apt-get update didn't tell me anything
[11:14] <rknol> no errors or suggestions
[11:14] <witheld1> no the other thing
[11:14] <witheld1> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[11:14] <rknol> well
[11:14] <rknol> the installed kernel differs from the package apt mentions
[11:15] <rknol> my uname -a tells
[11:15] <rknol> Linux london-server 3.5.0-44-generic #67~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 13 16:16:57 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:15] <witheld1> did you try to run what it told you to?
[11:15] <rknol> so 3.5.0-44 vs 3.5.0-45
[11:15] <rknol> well witheld1
[11:15] <rknol> i'm really afraid that it starts installing/updating libs to
[11:15] <rknol> -55 kernel
[11:15] <rknol> and completely break my system
[11:15] <rknol> if i force it
[11:15] <rknol> can't ahve that as this is a production machine
[11:15] <witheld1> rknol
[11:15] <witheld1> that's fix
[11:16] <witheld1> -f is fix
[11:16] <shibly> Is ubuntuforums.org login support available here?
[11:16] <witheld1> not force
[11:16] <rknol> is it fix?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> shibly, no
[11:16] <witheld1> and it will prompt you before it does anything major as usual
[11:18] <witheld1> rknol: and yes you're likely going to have to reboot or leave the system in an inconsistent state till you do
[11:18] <shibly> Where can this support be available? Is there any forum support email?
[11:18] <shibly> cfhowlett: ^
[11:18] <cfhowlett> shibly, hit the "help" buttons at the top right of the page you cited
[11:19] <SKyd3R> hi, I can't read any SD Card with my ubuntu
[11:20] <SKyd3R> hi, I can't read any SD Card with my ubuntu 12.04
[11:20] <agd> hello, I have discovered a privilege-escalation vulnerability in Ubuntu that varies from 11.x, 12.x, 13.x. How can I report this bug and get it fixed? thanks.
[11:20] <rknol> thanks witheld1
[11:20] <rknol> that 'fixed' it partially
[11:20] <clypso> I have a Radeon 9250 series graphic card (256 memory) installed on this Ubuntu. Well when i check sysinfo it is only showing 128 memory for the graphics card. Because it is saying it is Radeon 9200 . Im wondering why is it doing this?
[11:20] <rknol> but
[11:20] <cfhowlett> !bug|agd,
[11:20] <rknol> my boot partition is FULL
[11:20] <agd> thank you, cfhowlett
[11:21] <cfhowlett> agd, no problem
[11:22] <lesshaste> how do you set a printer to staple?
[11:22] <lesshaste> I can't see such an option
[11:22] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, networked printer?
[11:22] <clypso> I have a Radeon 9250 series graphic card (256 memory) installed on this Ubuntu. Well when i check sysinfo it is only showing 128 memory for the graphics card. Im seeing that it is showing Radeon 9200 instead. I need some help on why its doing this
[11:23] <usr13_> Does /usr/local/tomcat7/bin/startup.sh  work?
[11:23] <usr13_> (Lines 18 and 19)
[11:24] <clypso> YOu talking to me Usr13 ?
[11:24] <usr13_> I don't know.  I dropped out and re-connected.
[11:24] <morpheus07> How do i register my nick ?
[11:24] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Magic
[11:24] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !info openvpn
[11:25] <clypso> I have a Radeon 9250 series graphic card (256 memory) installed on this Ubuntu. Well when i check sysinfo it is only showing 128 memory for the graphics card. Because it is saying it is Radeon 9200 . Im wondering why is it doing this?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !register|morpheus07,
[11:25] <Hix> morpheus07 - oh ok ^^
[11:25] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Ubuntu keeps freezing
[11:25] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and making me want windows
[11:26] <Ben64> clypso: pastebin what you're seeing
[11:26] <clypso> How do i do this Ben64
[11:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !info ubuntu
[11:27] <Ben64> clypso: go to pastebin.com, enter text, and give the resulting url here in the channel
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu|GuyThatNeedsHelp,
[11:27] <clypso> http://pastebin.com/1UXtHMji
[11:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !info ubuntu keeps freezing
[11:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> !info windows
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !details|GuyThatNeedsHelp,
[11:28] <Ben64> clypso: .... thats what you said here. paste whatever relevant information there. such as commands, errors, your "sysinfo" thing, everything
[11:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 13.10 KEEPS FREEZING
[11:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> It makes me sad inside
[11:29] <clypso> ok
[11:29] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: give us more information or we can't help you!
[11:29] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Is it a total lockup?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> GuyThatNeedsHelp, and that tells us NOTHING - details or not help
[11:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> No my mouse can move
[11:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> But nothing else
[11:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i can go in the command line CTRL + ALT F1
[11:30] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Mouse gets stuck but keyboard still works?
[11:30] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Yea, ok....
[11:30] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> no my mouse is the only thing that works
[11:30] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: doesn't sound very frozen
[11:31] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> CTRL + ALT F7 wont exit the command line when its "frozen"
[11:31] <clypso> http://pastebin.com/jenghhXW
[11:32] <clypso> ok Ben64
[11:32] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Fully updated?
[11:32] <clypso> Thats all the info i got http://pastebin.com/jenghhXW
[11:32] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Yes
[11:32] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> update every time
[11:32] <Ben64> clypso: nothing there says 128MB
[11:32] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Tell us what works and what does not work.
[11:33] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: is there a certain thing that you do to make it freeze? certain program that is always open?
[11:33] <clypso> A radeon 9200 pro is 128
[11:33] <clypso> Its a 9250 what i have. Its showing as a 9200 though
[11:33] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: I think you need to start over.
[11:33] <clypso> 9250 Radeon graphics card is 256 graphics card. Its showing something less
[11:34] <Ben64> clypso: 9250 and 9200 are the same chip
[11:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> The only thing i can do is move my mouse, and go in the command line but when i do i get stuck. even when i kill all the applications running it wont let me exit the command line (CTRL + ALT F7)
[11:34] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: How much RAM do you have?
[11:35] <Tracker> hey anyone to help with ubuntu bind first new real domain .. not working.. do I need more then one bind instances.. currently to dns entryes to one machine and one bind instance running...
[11:35] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: free | pastebinit
[11:35] <clypso> This is a radeon 9200... http://www.cnet.com/graphics-cards/ati-radeon-9200/4507-8902_7-21238661.html
[11:35] <clypso> This is a radeon 9250 http://www.cnet.com/graphics-cards/ati-radeon-9250-256/4507-8902_7-31139242.html
[11:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> RAM i dont know
[11:35] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: And send URL
[11:35] <Ben64> clypso: thats nice, still the same chip
[11:36] <clypso> Well ben why is one saying 256 video memory and other 128 video memory. There is a difference.
[11:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what do you mean pastebin free?
[11:36] <clypso> When what i have is a 256 memory video chip. But its showing 128 video memory instead
[11:36] <Ben64> clypso: no it isn't
[11:36] <clypso> Ben64 you must know more then me. What am i missing here ?
[11:36] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Open a terminal, type  free |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL (here) for us to see.
[11:37] <Ben64> clypso: they're the same chip, theres no difference between them. nothing you pasted shows anything about the memory
[11:37] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: In other words, tell us how much RAM you have.
[11:37] <clypso> Ram on the video card ?
[11:37] <clypso> oh thats to guythatneedhelp. Nm
[11:38] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: After hitting enter, tell us what it says.
[11:38] <clypso> Ben64 lol i really am lost. Why am i believing that there is a different between 256 video memory and 128 video memory
[11:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Installing pastebinit
[11:38] <Ben64> clypso: you're interpreting it incorrectly
[11:38] <clypso> Please enlighten me if you do not mind
[11:39] <Ben64> i explained it thrice already
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> clypso: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a     please use http://pastie.org (or similar) to host the output so you don't scroll the channel
[11:39] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6914551/
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> GuyThatNeedsHelp: free -m     is easier to read :)
[11:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/check-ram-in-ubuntu/
[11:41] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: htop
[11:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> kinda weird because i had that in terminal
[11:41] <clypso> ActionParsnip@@   http://pastie.org/8722045
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what is the output of:  free -m | pastebinit
[11:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6914575/
[11:42] <ol_> looking for free linux teacher
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> clypso: ok, and what is the issue?
[11:42] <usr13> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Run htop and see what is the biggest hog.  (Watch the top line for a few minutes.)
[11:42] <clypso> Well i know that i have a Radeon 9250 card. Which is 256 Ram. But when i check sysinfo it is showing 128 ram for a Radeon 9200
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> memory:d0000000-d7ffffff ioport:de00(size=256)
[11:42] <clypso> Im confused why i dont have the other 128
[11:43] <Ben64> clypso: it never says 128!
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> clypso: Line 24
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> clypso: in YOUR paste
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> clypso: too obvious?
[11:43] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: that's not always right
[11:43] <cyford> dam i just did some update  and now all my text in terminal is screwd
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: is in this case :)
[11:43] <clypso> Ok i am a retard. Im sorry. Heh.
[11:44] <clypso> Thank you for the newb lessons.
[11:44] <cyford> looks like  this
[11:44] <Ben64> mine shows 128, but my card is 1GB
[11:44] <cyford> ����^R.��^D^_b���@vWY�^K��Y^_b,r^U���+���LQ2�w^U����,\X��j��i�W�w^YOyW0��b�dK�^H�������^E^_��jT22�!�'�����(��#!��o��?�T�`�����}F��E^]�g^U�$9C8_H��z����^P{��^]�^
[11:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> htop looks badass
[11:44] <cfhowlett> cyford, don't know what that is ...
[11:44] <clypso> *Gives a big thanks to ACtionParsnip and Ben65*
[11:44] <Ben64> cyford: hit CTRL+C a few times, then type "reset" and press enter
[11:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 144 Tasks
[11:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> SPAM
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> GuyThatNeedsHelp: as in processes on the CPU?
[11:47] <ometzit> Hi everyone! I'm trying to remove my ubuntu installation to put it in virtualbox but I screwed the boot menu, can someone please take a look of http://paste.ubuntu.com/6914401/ boot repair output and point me what to do?
[11:48] <lesshaste> how do you set a printer to staple?
[11:48] <lesshaste> I can't see such an option
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: which printer?
[11:48] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I mean in cups
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: yesm but which printer is it?
[11:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> It keeps changing
[11:50] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Work/Products/Office_Print_Copy_Solutions/Office_Colour_Printers/iR_ADV_C5235i/
[11:50] <usr13> ometzit: Which OS is booting, and which one isn't booting?
[11:51] <ometzit> neither of them
[11:51] <ometzit> the bios says operative system not found
[11:52] <usr13> ometzit: Is it uefi system?
[11:52] <ometzit> nope
[11:52] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://postimg.org/image/izi38pebj/
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: they do have a Linux driver. I assume you installed it and it prints ok?
[11:53] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, yes and it works
[11:53] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, well.. hmm.. let me check exactly which printer I am using
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: when you hit print, go to the print properties, is the option there at all?
[11:54] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I am using Canon imageRunner C6800 Foomatic/Postscript (recommended)
[11:54] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, there are options
[11:55] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I just don't see stapling
[11:55] <usr13> ometzit: sdb is just a thumb drive.  Right?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, could be that it's not supported
[11:55] <usr13> ometzit: a 16G thumb drive?
[11:56] <jargon> i keep having to run `exec bash` to get 12.04 to see my /root/.bashrc and .bash_aliases. why is that?
[11:56] <usr13> ometzit: Look at lines 779 and 781   (Did you try it yet?)
[11:56] <arjun_> hey, how good is the BTRFS Filesystem for storing data on an external backup drive?
[11:56] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, if I saw c5235i in the list of printers I suppose that would be good
[11:57] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, did you say there is a specific driveR?
[11:57] <lesshaste> cfhowlett, could be
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> arjun_: should be fine
[11:57] <arjun_> ok, awesome!
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: no idea then, you could contat Canon
[11:57] <arjun_> and how good is it for using it as the main FS on the computer?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> arjun_: i'd research the features in the filesystem, see if they are beneficial to your situation
[11:58] <arjun_> ok... i'll do that...
[11:58] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, maybe it is listed in some later version of ubuntu?
[11:58] <sandman13> nothing is displayed after ubuntu splash
[12:00] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, hmm. you are right there is a specific driver on the Canon website
[12:01] <sandman13> can someone help me?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|sandman13,
[12:01] <cyber37> Hi guy's i am programming a app who use a USB HID device, my question is how to set my user group ALLOWED to control USB devices ? Because actually i need to use SUDO for run my app and it's realy borring because i can't run it from the IDE. I'm sure it exist a solution by putting the USB acces for a user group but .. ?
[12:01] <cyber37> Any one know how to do it ?
[12:02] <ometzit> usr13 yes i restarted but after the bios screen it shows a message no operative system found
[12:02] <sandman13> cfhowlett: but it was working fine earlier until i installed and uninstalled xubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <cyford> what is the benifit of xubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <cfhowlett> sandman13, so resetting it should be possible
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> cyber37: you can use udev rules to set access on usb devices etc
[12:03] <sandman13> resetting?
[12:03] <cfhowlett> sandman13, as per the nomodeset thread I sent you
[12:03] <usr13> ometzit: Which OS?  Win7?
[12:04] <cyber37>  i'm watching for do the same as that tutorial http://mightyohm.com/blog/2010/03/run-avrdude-without-root-privs-in-ubuntu/ because i know the vendor/product ID of my device, so i will try with that
[12:04] <sandman13> cfhowlett let's see
[12:04] <ometzit> usr13 both I assume because there is no grub there is no choose os available menu as before
[12:05] <ometzit> the os are there because i tried reinstalling ubuntu but it didnt restored the grub menu
[12:05] <ometzit> although the installer did recognized both windows and ubuntu present
[12:06] <usr13> ometzit: What version of Ubuntu was it?
[12:06] <ometzit> 13.10
[12:08] <usr13> ometzit: So, Ubuntu 13.10 is what you originally installed?
[12:09] <ometzit> yes, ubuntu 13.10 alongside with windows 7
[12:09] <cyber37> how to set up a udev rules file ? i need to allow my user to use a hid device
[12:10] <usr13> ometzit: So what did you do to hose it in up?
[12:11] <usr13> ometzit: Did you boot to Win7 and delete the partition /dev/sda5?
[12:13] <ometzit> usr13 no, i have been unable to boot win7, i deleted the swap partition but i think that the error was in expanding the linux partition into the swap space without removing linux first
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> cyber37: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/udev is also a good resource for udev
[12:14] <mammuth> #laquadrature
[12:16] <usr13> ometzit: So you never were able to boot to Win7
[12:16] <usr13> ?
[12:17] <ometzit> well it was working until i do that, i was trying to remove the partitions from the live usb
[12:17] <usr13> ometzit: Is this a Laptop or Desktop?
[12:17] <ometzit> laptop
[12:17] <usr13> ometzit: What is the make and model?
[12:17] <ometzit> dell N4010
[12:18] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> mammuth: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !fr|mammuth,
[12:19] <cyber37> what is wrong with that ? : SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="16C0", ATTR{idProduct}=="05DC", MODE="0666"
[12:19] <epax> Is it possible to simulate systema failure så that whole system goes into read only mode?
[12:20] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> yeah
[12:20] <hitsujiTMO> cyber37: ATTRS not ATTR
[12:21] <ometzit> usr13 wait i finally have the grub menu back i think its working
[12:21] <usr13> ometzit: May be easier and/or better to just install ubuntu and run Win7 in VirtualBox
[12:21] <shibly> Hi, is ubuntuforums.org login support available here? Is there any mail support contact for ubuntuforums.org ?
[12:21] <usr13> ometzit: Yea, you probably just needed to pull the thumb drive out.  Right?
[12:22] <usr13> ometzit: Which is what I would do, run Win7 in VirtualBox.
[12:22] <OerHeks> cyber37, you might want to add "GROUP="adm"  >> https://code.google.com/p/eepe/
[12:22] <ometzit> usr13 sorta, disable network booting even thought it doesnt find OS in the network, I don't know why it didn't continued to grub
[12:22] <OerHeks> sudo echo 'SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="16c0", ATTR{idProduct}=="05dc", GROUP="adm", MODE="0666"' > /etc/udev/rules.d/10-usbasp.rules
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> shibly: may try #ubuntuforums
[12:23] <cyber37> i go watch your link OerHeks
[12:24] <ometzit> usr13 I would prefer it the other way, but what do you think is better, use it with the current linux installation or remove it and start all over again
[12:26] <cyber37> MAMAMIA ! i find the problem ... when you put the vendor/product ID
[12:26] <cyber37> You must put it in low char
[12:26] <cyber37> 05dc for exemple and not 05DC
[12:26] <cyber37> omg
[12:26] <OerHeks> ah nice
[12:27] <cyber37> thanks boy's
[12:29] <ol_> is there any equivalent of this link "http://www.freeshells.info/"in windows/mac system?
[12:29] <poee> hi.. my windows are grayed out like this : http://i.imgur.com/nULNuXM.jpg. it comes back to normal after a restart. can anyone help?
[12:29] <hitsujiTMO> ol_: maybe ask in ##windows or ##mac?
[12:30] <jokeart1> how to acoid laptop for overheating?
[12:30] <jokeart1> *avoid
[12:42] <alumno_> how can i use my usb as a vigina?
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> alumno_: please troll elsewhere
[12:48] <elementary-site2> hi there
[12:49] <elementary-site2> i have a problem with an "elementary os luna" fresh install. when i type sudo pppoeconf I get "sorry, no ethernet card could be found". wireless is not working either. could you please help me?
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> !elementart | elementary-site2
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> !elementary | elementary-site2
[12:50] <cyber37> !cyber37 | test
[12:50] <cyber37> !test | cyber37
[12:50] <elementary-site2> sure, but no one's answering there. I thought that someone here could help me, elementary being ubuntu-based...
[12:51] <DJones> elementary-site2: I'm afraid you'll need to be patient there, this channel only supports the official Ubuntu releases
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> elementary-site2: its not supported here. we've no idea how its configured or what tools are available so we cannot help
[12:52] <elementary-site2> thanks :(
[12:53] <ometzit> if I want to remove the ubuntu partition what is safer, first fix the mbr using the windows recovery partition or removing linux and later fixing the mbr; i am worried because if I remove linux first, that would remove grub as well and leave my system unbootable, and I don't have a windows cd on  hand, only the recovery partition
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> ometzit: fix mbr first then
[12:55] <ometzit> thnks!
[12:58] <shafox> js
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ometzit: either way is fine
[13:00] <JustMozzy> hey guys. I have mounted a cifs to a windows network share and I am trying to make a symbolic link to one of the mount's subfolders, however it fails telling me that it is a read-only file system but I can manually add/edit/delete files on the mount
[13:00] <alumno_> hi
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> ometzit: you will need a windows CD to reinstate the Windows bootloader
[13:00] <alumno_> hetfield
[13:00] <alumno_> gay
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: what command are you using to make the link?
[13:00] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: ln -s
[13:00] <Hetfield> Marica
[13:00] <doomlord_> can anyone recomend an opensource application for editing graphs (just need text boxes linked with labelled arrows, placed in 2d..)
[13:00] <alumno_> ñlkjpljsadg
[13:00] <alumno_> ag
[13:00] <alumno_> ghjs
[13:00] <alumno_> hogs
[13:00] <alumno_> augh
[13:00] <alumno_> aik
[13:00] <alumno_> askgdasjghòsjk
[13:00] <alumno_> gsad
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: yes, and the rest....?
[13:01] <Hetfield> puta
[13:01] <alumno_> òjg
[13:01] <she_dyed> alumno stop
[13:01] <JustMozzy> ln -s /mnt/wwwroot_akm/portal/1310_inn/site/__rawmedia/ __rawmedia
[13:01] <ometzit> ActionParsnip or the recovery partition right? I don't have the disk, this pc came with a recovery partition
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ometzit: no idea there dude, maybe the guys in ##windows can advise
[13:02] <she_dyed> you need a certain disk to access recovery menu
[13:02] <she_dyed> iirc
[13:02] <JustMozzy> Here is also my fstab http://pastebin.ca/2638624 I tried later on to create two more mounts to the places I need them but it fails too
[13:04] <ometzit> ActionParsnip well i managed the mbr and now there is no grub menu, to remove linux all I have to do is format its partition?
[13:04] <ometzit> *i managed to restore the mbr
[13:06] <JustMozzy> oh wait... ok, my case is a bit more complicated. so the folder I want to create the link in is a virtualbox sharing folder. that might be the problem I think
[13:09] <she_dyed> can it "see " outside?
[13:10] <JustMozzy> she_dyed: what do you mean?
[13:10] <she_dyed> is it aware where other dirs are?
[13:10] <ishwon> hi ... can someone tell what's the channel ubuntu-loco teams? i've tried searching on the ubuntu loco pages, didn't find. though i remember there was a mention of a channel once.
[13:11] <ometzit> now to install ubuntu in virtual box
[13:11] <DJones> ishwon: #ubuntu-locoteams I would assume
[13:11] <she_dyed> ishwon: not on 'Contact us' or "support" page/links?
[13:12] <ishwon> thanks DJones ... it's correct. i initially tried ubuntu-loco, which was wrong.
[13:12] <JustMozzy> she_dyed: I am not sure how a shared folder can be aware of anything :s
[13:12] <DJones> ishwon: Thats a general locoteams channel, although if you're looking for a specific country's loco, they'll have individual channels
[13:13] <she_dyed> JustMozzy: say you're inside, can you cd  ../../ or something?
[13:13] <she_dyed> does the command change your pwd
[13:13] <JustMozzy> she_dyed: ah that's what you mean. yes I can. the shared folder is mounted to my linux box.
[13:14] <ishwon> actually, i need information about loco teams in general. i started the Mauritius Ubuntu Team years ago. throughout time, it went dormant. i'm trying to revive it as we have several FOSS events planned ahead this year.
[13:14] <she_dyed> nice linux i won't bother you anymore
[13:14] <she_dyed> JustMozzy: ^
[13:14] <she_dyed> :)
[13:14] <ljunggren> hi, i got a little weird issue, you see my swedish keys wont work, i get english layot althou it worked fine until today. i even deleted the english layot but no
[13:15] <ishwon> problem is i'm having some kind of "another account under same name" with launchpad, which isn't allowing me log on the loco page.
[13:15] <DJones> ishwon: If you don't get an answer in that loco teams channel, it may be worth dropping in to #ubuntu-irc there may be somebody there who could help, although probably similar users in both channels
[13:15] <ljunggren> I only have swedish left but my special characters is just gone
[13:17] <ishwon> DJones: thank you. i'll try.
[13:17] <Gnar> hey im trying to install ubuntu for the first time
[13:18] <Gnar> did it freeze on me? all i see is a blank purplish screen with a blue circle in the top right
[13:18] <she_dyed> but you got on irc,nice
[13:18] <Gnar> nah im on my laptop
[13:18] <she_dyed> and you're watching that circle...
[13:19] <Gnar> hmm
[13:19] <Gnar> if i alt tab i can see an install box
[13:19] <Gnar> i just cant make it maximize
[13:20] <ishwon> well ... both #ubuntu-locoteams & #ubuntu-irc seem dormant :(
[13:21] <dave305> how to install g++ compiler for ubuntu..pls help
[13:22] <aboudreault> ?
[13:23] <aboudreault> dave305, there are many g++ packages
[13:24] <ikonia> dave305: what is it you actually want to do
[13:24] <dave305> i need a package including ncurses library
[13:24] <ikonia> dave305: that has nothing to do with g++
[13:25] <dave305> i need to compile normal c++ programs
[13:26] <ikonia> normal c++ programs ??
[13:26] <ice9> can bcache used with usb flash memory instead of the SSD?
[13:26] <ikonia> there is no such things, they are specifc
[13:28] <tyler_d> weeee
[13:28] <Gnar> hmm installation seems to have frozen while trying to login to "ubuntu one"
[13:28] <Gnar> is this going to time out or what?
[13:29] <tyler_d> or what probably
[13:29] <tyler_d> Gnar, can you drop to a shell
[13:29] <she_dyed> time out but maybe 3 or more retries
[13:33] <bahamas> hello. can anyone give me any tips on how to make my android phone be seen by ubuntu. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and the android version is 4.2.2
[13:33] <Nispr0> how can I test and see my nfs speed?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: what is the reason for the connection?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: did you set the device to camera mode
[13:33] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: I want to do remote debugging in chrome inspector
[13:35] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: the device is detected if I run lsusb
[13:42] <guibou_> Hello there. I have an error during install, the error message is "??? ???" during the choice of timezone. My google fuu does not help me here, any suggestion ?
[13:43] <she_dyed> isnt there a map showing you can click
[13:43] <she_dyed> your timezone
[13:43] <zecar> anybody know of a program to allow select-to-copy in terminal (WITHOUT MIDDLE MOUSE)? Parcellite no longer works in latest version 13.10
[13:44] <guibou_> she_dyed: yes, but they I cannot "continue"
[13:45] <she_dyed> and guibou_ there is no 'previous' or 'back' so it caqn ask once more?
[13:45] <she_dyed> can*
[13:45] <guibou_> she_dyed: and when I "accept" the error message, it automatically returns to the first dialog
[13:46] <she_dyed> first, as in 'pick a timezone'
[13:47] <guibou_> she_dyed: no, first as in "welcome in the installer, please choose if you want to wip your disk or do something else"
[13:47] <xcRB> Hello there
[13:47] <she_dyed> oh, the VERYfirst one
[13:48] <guibou_> she_dyed: yes
[13:48] <she_dyed> guibou_: there is a tool to let you set it afterwards so see if you csn skip
[13:48] <she_dyed> called dpkg-reconfigure tz
[13:49] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> How would I install a windows .iso on a partition?
[13:49] <guibou_> she_dyed: ok, how am I supposed to skip this part of the installer (there is no obvious skip button)
[13:49] <OerHeks> LetsTalkMetaPhys, ask in ##windows perhaps?
[13:49] <woopstar> hi guyes... i have an application that i run on one server right now. I like to ensure this application always runs, so im about to buy another server. But thing is, it does not support to be running along side on each servers. So i need to make sure if it crashes somehow on one server, and it cannot start at that one. Then the other server starts the application. Could someone point me in a direction?
[13:49] <DJones> LetsTalkMetaPhys: Probably best asking that in ##windows
[13:49] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> okay, thanks
[13:49] <she_dyed> and the error message offers no other button xcept 'ok'
[13:49] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, you can use a virtualization tool
[13:50] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> To clarify, it's on an ubuntu system
[13:50] <mouthy9> woopstar: CRON
[13:50] <guibou_> she_dyed: yes
[13:50] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, Yes you can use a virtualization tool to achieve that
[13:50] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> xcRB, what's that and how?
[13:50] <woopstar> mouthy9: cron yes.. but was mere the thing getting the two servers to talk together about it
[13:51] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, Virtualbox
[13:51] <xcRB> Or VMWare
[13:51] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, I think you better read this http://www.vmware.com/products/player/overview.html
[13:51] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, and this: http://lifehacker.com/5888051/the-best-virtualization-app-for-linux
[13:51] <callmeDarwin> \
[13:51] <bahamas> ubuntu is driving me crazy
[13:52] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> okay, thanks
[13:52] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, BUT, that's only if you want to run it inside Ubuntu
[13:52] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> I'd do thatif there were no other way
[13:52] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, if you want to install it on a partition aside, then you better install windows first, and then ubuntu, so you have a dual boot system
[13:52] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> Alright
[13:53] <xcRB> LetsTalkMetaPhys, ok good luck
[13:57] <Guest13557> Samsung SCX-4521F scanes very slowly
[13:59] <Guest13557> Samsung SCX-4521F
[13:59] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> I'm installing a vm
[13:59] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> and it says the public key is not available
[13:59] <LetsTalkMetaPhys> I think I found it but what now?
[14:00] <Guest13557> Samsung SCX-4521F scan slowly in ubuntu 12.04
[14:00] <ljunggren> gwagknaelönaö
[14:05] <Guest13557> anybody please help me Samsung SCX-4521F sanning very slowly even it is 75 dots per inch
[14:06] <she_dyed> what application initiated the scan?
[14:15] <bubbafat> On 12.04, I am trying to prevent my external USB drive from going to sleep (I don't care about the heads idling).  I have googled and read the various suggestions using hdparam - however 'sudo apt-get install hdparam' says "Unable to locate package" - suggestions on alternative tools or what I need to do to find the package?
[14:15] <Slit> Hi! I am having problems installing lubuntu on my mac mini. When I am trying to install it at some point my screen stops to flashing and everything stops working. Of course, installation fails.
[14:16] <she_dyed> its hdparm bubbafat
[14:16] <bubbafat> she_dyed, DOH!
[14:16]  * she_dyed puts the extra in a drawer
[14:16] <she_dyed> extra 'a'
[14:17] <bubbafat> Further proving my old manager's beliefe that all bugs are eventually off by one errors.
[14:18] <mouthy9> bubbafat: tell your manager all software is beta.
[14:18] <she_dyed> and make him apt get hd param
[14:20] <coollink> 中文怎么切换？
[14:20] <bubbafat> Thanks - I appreciate your attention to detail - not my best start to the day.
[14:20] <somsip> !zh | coollink
[14:21] <she_dyed> no stress bubbafat, the rest of the day should go smoother now that your quota has been met=)
[14:24] <xcRB> Does anybody now any good linux reader different than liferea or rssowl?
[14:24] <xcRB> Something that can at least send me an immediate feed alert?
[14:24] <Lihis> Suggestions about cloning hard drive with LiveCD? I thought "dd" would be good but the destination hdd is smaller than the source it isn't good..
[14:25] <she_dyed> xcRB: conky has an rss feature
[14:26] <xcRB> she_dyed, Interesting, but it wont show up a notification, or at least a sound I think?
[14:26] <she_dyed> right,
[14:27] <she_dyed> we used to have a bot that would provide a feed in a private chat buffer
[14:36] <Kriss3d> Hi is there any known issues with huawei e173 not wanting to connect all the sudden ? after reinstall. its a 13.04 based
[14:39] <she_dyed> Kriss3d: did you neeed to set up a fresh gnome keyring, just a guess...
[14:40] <Kriss3d> she_dyed:  well its supposed to let anyone connect and its set to not ask for any pin (ive set that using a windows install of the modem.)
[14:43] <daum_> hey guys - i am running kubuntu but it doesn't seem to find my bluetooth, any ideas on how to troubleshoot that?
[14:45] <she_dyed> dmesg | grep blue or grep tooth
[14:45] <daum_> she_dyed, http://pastie.org/8722567
[14:46] <yusuf_> hi....
[14:47] <she_dyed> daum seems to be recognized, time to get something like bluez(all aroun BT utils)
[14:49] <daum_> she_dyed, looks like i have hat already installed
[14:50] <she_dyed> good, usr/share/doc/bluez will tell you about the daemon, etc
[14:50] <daum_> ok thanks
[14:52] <she_dyed> yw daum, you'll be able to pair the BT device and so on
[14:57] <she_dyed> man i expected the delicious aroma of arabica
[14:58] <she_dyed> not overpowering bleach bleah
[14:59]  * she_dyed makes a new pot
[14:59] <FiremanEd> !ot | she_dyed
[15:00] <she_dyed> wrong chan sorry folks
[15:00] <fr1_d0wn> problems whit install the wicd in ubuntu
[15:00] <fr1_d0wn> help me guys please
[15:01] <fulanito> hi
[15:01] <fr1_d0wn> hi fulanito
[15:01] <OerHeks> fr1_d0wn, just ask your question
[15:01] <AshvinSTi> hey friends
[15:01] <fulanito> I am having problems to access my server remotely
[15:02] <AshvinSTi> any good website for learning how to use linux?
[15:02] <fr1_d0wn> when is the problem?
[15:02] <fulanito> It already have an public ip and port 22 is open
[15:03] <somsip> fulanito: who is the host?
[15:03] <fr1_d0wn> ftp?
[15:04] <fulanito> http://pastebin.com/WcV1G1hj
[15:04] <fulanito> ftp ssh and httpd are running
[15:04] <she_dyed> you have the ip
[15:04] <fulanito> none of those answer
[15:05] <fulanito> 187.177.161.115
[15:06] <she_dyed> in your browser try ftp://187(complete ip here)
[15:06] <Ntemis> need some help with raid 5
[15:06] <Ntemis> hdd faulty
[15:06] <Ntemis> replaced
[15:06] <Ntemis> raid ok
[15:07] <Ntemis> how i add the good one back to the raid?
[15:07] <fulanito> no answe
[15:07] <fulanito> r
[15:08] <somsip> fulanito: what version of ubuntu is the server running?
[15:08] <noobic1> anyone know what the light blue link is in ubuntu?
[15:08] <noobic1> symlinks are red
[15:08] <noobic1> what the light blue links?
[15:10] <fulanito> ubuntu 12.04
[15:10] <noobic1> Sorry forgot to mention I'm using putty
[15:11] <she_dyed> red, maybe a problem with symlink? ltblue could be normal...
[15:11] <ixio2> !ot
[15:11] <OerHeks> red = archive, blue is folder
[15:12] <Gnar> is there a command to delete all ppas at the same time?
[15:12] <fulanito> somsip: any idea?
[15:12] <OerHeks> Gnar, maybe  " sudo ppa-purge * " deletes all, not sure, never done that
[15:13] <noobic1> red is fine
[15:13] <noobic1> blue seems to be a number
[15:13] <noobic1> when you use number to create the link
[15:13] <noobic1> thanks ya'll
[15:13] <Xuisce1> hi noobic1
[15:13] <ciprian> hy guys..need a little help
[15:13] <Xuisce1> hallo
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> ciprian: wassup?
[15:14] <noobic1> hi
[15:14] <ciprian> i havve an asus x54c computer and i;e install ubuntu studio 13.04
[15:14] <ciprian> i have problems with sound..any help?
[15:14] <fulanito> any idea we I cant access an ubuntu server 12.04 with a public ip
[15:15] <nearst> fulanito, firewall ?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> cian1500ww: 13.04 is no longer supported in any way
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> cian1500ww: I suggest you clean install with either Saucy (13.10) or Precise (12.04) both of which will alow you to upgrade to Trusty (14.04) in April 2014 and will give LTS til April 2019
[15:16] <noobic1> anyone know how I can make a script to remove all contents in a subdirectory?
[15:16] <lmat_> I have compiz installed, but it doesn't appear to be running. How do I ensure it starts at startup?
[15:16] <somsip> fulanito: is this a hosted server
[15:16] <lmat_> oh, and when I   compiz --replace &  , the window decorations go away :(
[15:16] <noobic1> /directory/subdirectory/* all contents
[15:18] <lmat_> Oh, one compizy thing seems to work...middle-click the window decoration up top and the window goes to back ^_^
[15:19] <lmat_> when I run ccsm, I get lots of errors, but when I run  dbus-launch ccsm, the errors seem to go away. Also, ccsm shows all my settings! (negative, desktop cube, opengl, etc.)
[15:19] <Xuisce1> hm
[15:19] <Xuisce1> hallo
[15:19] <lmat_> But they aren't "working". It appears that compiz isn't even running :(
[15:19] <lmat_> Xuisce1: HI!
[15:19] <hugh_jorgan> n
[15:20] <Xuisce1> hi jaakkoh_
[15:20] <Xuisce1> wrong perosn
[15:22] <jdl6210> Im not able to install my graphics driver AMD Radeon HD 3200
[15:22] <jdl6210> i need help
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[15:22] <jdl6210> iǘe tried
[15:23] <jdl6210> but doesnt work
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:23] <jdl6210> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[15:24] <helmut_> hi
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: ok, what is the output of: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: use http://pastie.org (or similar) to host the output
[15:25] <noobic1> hey anyone know how to remove all files on rm -rf /directory/subdirectory/*contents
[15:25] <noobic1> for multiple directorys?
[15:25] <noobic1> in 1 command
[15:25] <jdl6210> Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~makson96/+archive/fglrx.) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.
[15:25] <jdl6210> jediael@jediael-Aspire-5532:~$  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx
[15:25] <jdl6210> You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
[15:25] <jdl6210>  If there will be no more driver updates made by AMD, than this repository will not support Ubuntu 13.10 and beyond. Use open source drivers instead (installed by default). If for some reason you still need Legacy Catalyst for Ubuntu 13.10, please consider this:
[15:25] <jdl6210> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181190&p=12823425#post12823425
[15:25] <jdl6210> This repository provides AMD Catalyst Lagacy 13.1 (fglrx 8.97.100.7) drivers for Radeon HD 2xxx - 4xxx for Ubuntu:
[15:25] <jdl6210> 12.04 Precise Pangolin
[15:25] <jdl6210> 12.10 Quantal Quetzal
[15:25] <jdl6210> 13.04 Raring Ringtail
[15:25] <jdl6210> If you are using Ubuntu 12.04.2 make sure you got linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal package installed.
[15:26] <jdl6210> Ubuntu 12.04.3 is not supported.
[15:26] <jdl6210> If you are using Ubuntu 13.04 the driver might not work very well with Unity. If that the case please consider resetting Unity configuration to default or use other DE.
[15:26] <jdl6210> The driver might not work very well with KDE. Adding lines:
[15:26] <jdl6210> "export KWIN_DIRECT_GL=1"
[15:26] <jdl6210> "export KWIN_COMPOSE=O2"
[15:26] <jdl6210> in /etc/profile file might help.
[15:26] <jdl6210> To use Catalyst Legacy 13.1 you need to do following commands:
[15:26] <jdl6210> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: again, use a pastebin as I CLEARLY said..didn't I?
[15:26] <jdl6210> sudo apt-get update
[15:26] <jdl6210> sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:26] <jdl6210> sudo apt-get install fglrx-legacy
[15:26] <jdl6210> And restart your computer.
[15:26] <jdl6210> This repository is downgradeing X-Server to 1.12.4 (which is maximum version supported by the drivers).
[15:26] <jdl6210> Quantal:
[15:26]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[15:26] <jdl6210> Driver is patched:
[15:26] <jdl6210> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/993427
[15:26] <lmat> Okay, I reinstalled compiz and reboot. No joy :(
[15:26] <jdl6210> (comment 14), so it could work on Linux kernel 3.5.
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> can anyone +q him>
[15:26] <jdl6210> Raring:
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> ?
[15:26] <jdl6210> Driver is patched:
[15:26] <jdl6210> http://ubuntuone.com/7IYHGmdpcH6SbX3l0GaXwa
[15:26] <jdl6210> , so it could work on Linux kernel 3.8. Patch is taken from Arch:
[15:26] <jdl6210> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/catalyst-total-hd234k/
[15:26] <jdl6210> but I needed to add some Ubuntu specyfic changes.
[15:26] <jdl6210> To remove the repository and its packages from the system do following command:
[15:26] <jdl6210> sudo ppa-purg
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: again, use a pastebin as I CLEARLY said..didn't I?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: I said use http://pastie.org   didnt I?
[15:28] <jdl6210> http://pastebin.com/b5mbT6Vt
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: why did you not do that first time when I TOLD You to use a pastebin?
[15:28] <fulanito> nearst: posts 22 80 and 443 are open
[15:29] <jdl6210> sorry didnt read everything
[15:29] <fulanito> somsip: is a physical server I have at my site
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: always always read everything, then jump
[15:29] <jdl6210> ok
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get --reinstall install fglrx-legacy
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: USE A PASTEBIN
[15:30] <DJones> fulanito: Assuming there's a router inbetween the internal & external networks, have you forwarded the port (22) on the router to the internal network ip address of the server
[15:30] <nearst> yep
[15:32] <lmat> bekks: yo :)
[15:32] <lmat> bekks: You don't happen to use compiz, eh ?
[15:33] <jiffe98> in ubuntu server what would be running apt-check?
[15:33] <jiffe98> running 12.04 and it seems to kill my webserver from time to time
[15:33] <tis> quit
[15:33] <tis> quit
[15:33] <jdl6210> http://pastebin.com/KEQvYW5Q
[15:33] <jiffe98> don't seem to have update-notifier on this machine
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: ok, now reboot
[15:34] <jdl6210> ok
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe98: seems its called by /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available via run-parts --lsbsysinit /etc/update-motd.d
[15:39] <glenn_> hy
[15:43] <jdl6210> My computer system crashed!
[15:43] <Nispr0> how do I see or test my nfs transfer rate in linux terminal?
[15:44] <mincos> hello everyone, in my previous distro I had a tool to extract audio from downloaded videos. but I forgot its name. it was a very easy tool to use. could you maybe help me?
[15:44] <lmat> What is the Ubuntu driver manager called ?
[15:44] <lmat> something like firefly...or bumblebee ?
[15:45] <jdl6210> Help
[15:45] <she_dyed> jocky?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: does the 2D session work ok?
[15:45] <lmat> she_dyed: yeah, that sounds right ^_^
[15:45] <jdl6210> No
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: did you try it or did you just log in to the Ubuntu session?
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> Nispr0: you could maybe time a dd transfer to the nfs?
[15:45] <jdl6210>  Its looping through log in and verbose
[15:46] <jdl6210> But it doenst let me do either
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: then install ppa-purge and remove the PPA, looks like you will be on the open source driver
[15:46] <lmat> she_dyed: Oh, that just manages proprietary drivers ?
[15:47] <tyler_d> use the "time" command Nispr0
[15:47] <jdl6210> How
[15:47] <jdl6210> ?
[15:47] <jdl6210> I cant even log in!
[15:47] <she_dyed> no, lmat, w/e it finds in your system, afaik
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login screen, you CAN log in there
[15:48] <jdl6210> Is not allowing me
[15:49] <jdl6210> Its looping and doesn't stop
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: then boot to root recovery mode and do it there
[15:50] <jdl6210> Ok idid it !
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: did what?
[15:51] <jdl6210> Log in
[15:51] <jdl6210> Whuch ppa do i purge ?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: graphically, or in CLI only?
[15:52] <jdl6210> Cli
[15:52] <she_dyed> boy, that IS an accomplishment
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge; sudo ppa-purge ppa:makson96/fglrx
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: was it CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login scren that got you there by any chance?
[15:54] <she_dyed> jdl6210: ^
[15:54] <jdl6210> No
[15:54] <jdl6210> What do i do after i purge?
[15:55] <she_dyed> it was flipping back n forth bet. GUIlogon & tty console login
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: reboot
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: if you run:   sudo reboot    it will hapen
[15:56] <jdl6210> I dont understand i had this installed well in Ubuntu 11.10
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: if you'd READ (again) the PPA page I gave you would see why it doesnt work
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: but you seem to have a severe issue with nopt reading....anything at all
[15:57] <jdl6210> Ok my computer is not back to normal yet
[15:58] <jdl6210> True
[15:59] <jdl6210> It is still not back to normal
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: that command removed the ppa and its changes
[16:02] <Nispr0> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[16:02] <JustMozzy> Quick question. is there a log directory where anyone can write to?
[16:02] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, when removal ppa driver does not reset, should he perform " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " ?
[16:03] <Touhou11> JustMozzy: /tmp
[16:03] <lmat> JustMozzy: /tmp ?
[16:03] <jdl6210> But it didnt work
[16:03] <lmat> jdl6210: Where are you ?
[16:03] <JustMozzy> hmm... tmp is not really a good place to put logs
[16:04] <lmat> JustMozzy: right!
[16:04] <lmat> JustMozzy: just run your app as root :P
[16:04] <Touhou11> JustMozzy: It's the only directory guaranteed to be able to write to. If you're in complete control of the system, just make your own directory and set permissions then
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: why not :)
[16:04] <JustMozzy> Imat: sounds legit
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> jdl6210: 16:02 < OerHeks> ActionParsnip, when removal ppa driver does not reset, should he perform " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " ?
[16:05] <she_dyed> gets cleaned every reboot
[16:05] <TJ-> JustMozzy: For local built packages, the recommended location would be /usr/local/var/log/
[16:05] <JustMozzy> TJ-: now that is exactly what I was looking for. was hoping that someone already thought of implementing a standard there
[16:06] <JustMozzy> Just out of curiousity. how come I have to elevate my permissions to write to /usr/local?
[16:07] <wonderworld> is there any way to make ubuntu redo the detection and configuration of gfx-hardware it does when doing a fresh install?
[16:07] <TJ-> JustMozzy: If you build a local package, with for example "./configure --prefix=/usr/local" then that package's conventional log-location will var /usr/local/var/log/ as opposed to /var/log/ ... but if it uses the syslog daemon, its up to the syslog configuration
[16:07] <JustMozzy> I mean, I know technically why. but what is the sense of having the whole /usr/local if I have to sudo everytime I need to do something there
[16:07] <Pinkamena_D> strange question: a few months ago I used to get a nice sd card icon when I used the sd card slot on my laptop, recently its shown up as a flash drive icon instead, any way to get the sd card icon back?
[16:07] <fulanito> DJones: nope the Server is connected directly to the ISP gateway
[16:07] <TJ-> JustMozzy: Because it can contain libraries and exectuables; don't want $RANDOM_USER being able to write those
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> JustMozzy: you shouldn't be needing to do anything in that path
[16:08] <TJ-> JustMozzy: Remember, Linux is a multi-user system, it doesn't assume there's only one operator
[16:08] <JustMozzy> TJ-: hmm... good reason. so /usr/local is shared among all users on the system?
[16:08] <TJ-> JustMozzy: I have the /usr/local/ hierachy set to "root:adm" and "g+w" and my user is a member of "adm"
[16:09] <TJ-> JustMozzy: Yes, you'll find /usr/local/bin in the $PATH before the system locations, too
[16:09] <TJ-> JustMozzy: The reason is, to allow local-built packages to take preference over distro ones - which might be built/installed to fix bugs
[16:10] <JustMozzy> TJ-: ahaaaa. makes a lot more sense now to me
[16:10] <JustMozzy> So where would you recommend to save log fiels from a website to? making /var/log/anywhere writeable seems to me a bad option
[16:11] <TJ-> JustMozzy: I also keep my vast array of shell scripts and small C programs in /usr/local/bin/ and I have a separate (LVM) file-system mounted at /usr/local/ ... which is reflected over the LAN via NFS, ensuring I have access to all my tools on all machines
[16:11] <Guest23375> helo people
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> JustMozzy: and ~/bin is added to the $PATH if it exists, for an individual users personal scripts and binaries
[16:11] <TJ-> JustMozzy: If you're using virtual hosts, then the process would be apache, and I'd suggest "/var/log/apache2/<domain>/"
[16:11] <JustMozzy> TJ-: that's a very interesting setup. do you have that documented somewhere?
[16:12] <wonderworld> i have my scripts in $HOME/scripts which is an encfs dir in my dropbox
[16:12] <TJ-> JustMozzy: In my head and in my scripts... don't think I explained the layout on my wiki
[16:12] <JustMozzy> TJ-: too bad. am still looking for the perfect setup
[16:12] <instigator> Greetings. I have created a script and want to run it in terminal without typing out whole path i.e. just typing script.sh to run it instead of /home/username/script.sh
[16:13] <instigator> is it possible, by changing some settings?
[16:13] <TJ-> JustMozzy: You'll never find it :)
[16:13] <gordonjcp> instigator: ./script.sh
[16:13] <Guest23375> how do i install nvidia drivers on a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04?
[16:13] <wonderworld> instigator: add /home/username to $PATH
[16:14] <TJ-> instigator: use a first line with a "shebang" as in "#!/bin/bash" ... then the system knows which executable is responsible to launch it
[16:15] <TJ-> instigator: ahhh, your question was slightly different. I'd suggest putting it in "$HOME/bin" ... that path gets auto-added to the environment if it exists at login
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> instigator: why do you have the .sh extension?
[16:15] <instigator> just matter of identifying it
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest23375: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support til release day
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest23375: if you are asking questions like that you probably shouldnt use prerelease
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> instigator: do you script in other languages?
[16:17] <instigator> ActionParsnip. just recently started bash
[16:17] <she_dyed> instigator: export PATH=$PATH:(add your /home/username)
[16:17] <Xuisce1> bash is fun
[16:17] <Xuisce1> :P
[16:18] <she_dyed> instigator: ^ will work on the terminal you run it on
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> instigator: so why do you need the identifyer? You dont need the extension, this isn't windows
[16:18] <pp_> https://www.evernote.com/shard/s289/sh/638398e3-836f-42ee-89c2-49c63a7a4344/baff46d1c7ab055c9f21f5674e44c45c/res/6a6a38d8-f252-43d1-92a9-60d88908498a/skitch.png
[16:18] <pp_> i see this channel in the film
[16:19] <JustMozzy> TJ-: haha true. optimization processes tend to go forever
[16:19] <eridu> is there any way to make a unity launcher for a firefox profile such that the launcher can be used to raise the alternate profile window?
[16:20] <instigator> ActionParnsip: was using cygwin while back, so got use to writing that
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> eridu: sure, make a copy of the firefox.desktop in /usr/share/applications and change the display name and exec lins
[16:20] <TJ-> eridu: Here's one I use since I have multiple X screens:  "/bin/sh -c 'firefox -P Research -remote "ping()" || firefox --new-instance -P Research %u && firefox -P Research -remote "openurl(%u,new-window)"'   "
[16:21] <eridu> ActionParsnip: I've done that, but when I launch the alternate profile, it lights up the normal Firefox launcher, not the alternate profile launcher, so I can't launch the main profile, and when they're both open I can't switch between the windows using the launchers
[16:21] <Xuisce1> eridu:  hello
[16:22] <JustMozzy> what would be the chmod for apache-php to get write permissions?
[16:22] <eridu> TJ-: does that allow you to use the unity bar to switch between two different running firefox instances?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> eridu: did you drag the new launcher to the bar?
[16:23] <TJ-> eridu: Yes, I have that saved as te 'exec' action in the "$HOME/.local/share/applications/firefox-research.desktop" file
[16:25] <TJ-> eridu: here it is:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6915849/
[16:25] <Touhou11> JustMozzy: You need to set the owner, then the permissions
[16:25] <luilakde1e> Anyone happen to have any experience with xboxdrv?
[16:25] <eridu> ActionParsnip: ...yes, I did. The issue is that after the new launcher can only be used to launch the program, not switch to it at runtime.
[16:25] <JustMozzy> Touhou11: currently the owner is root:adm on all log files in /var/log/apache2
[16:27] <eridu> TJ-: so when both of those are running, can you use that launcher to raise just the research profile?
[16:27] <TJ-> eridu: Yes
[16:27] <TJ-> JustMozzy: There is an alternative you know. If you're using apache2, you can have a VirtualHost log to syslog... that avoids all the permissions problems
[16:28] <JustMozzy> TJ-: not if it is a php script doing the logging :/
[16:28] <eridu> TJ-: even if the default firefox instance is running already? not just LAUNCH the research profile, but SWITCH TO that window after both are launched?
[16:29] <Hix> quick crontab question - I've added MAILTO=me@mydomain.com but don't get emails when crontab runs. Do i need to set up email somewhere?
[16:29] <TJ-> JustMozzy: you need something like this in the virtual host definition then "php_value error_log /var/www/domains/example.com/php.error.log"
[16:30] <TJ-> JustMozzy: this SO question might help you: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/176/error-log-per-virtual-host
[16:30] <JustMozzy> TJ-: no, what I mean is that it is not an error logging. it is some log for a component written in php. hence the trouble
[16:31] <eridu> TJ-: the problem I have is that after both are running, the existing firefox unity button will go to the alternate profile, and vice versa, depending on which window last had focus
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> Hix cron has no environment so you'd have to setup the MAILTO envvar within the sript
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> s/sript/script
[16:31] <JustMozzy> strangely enough, I have set chmod 77 and chown www-data:www-data on the folder but php still has no permissions to write to that folder :/
[16:31] <Hix> ok thanks for the pointers hitsujiTMO
[16:32] <TJ-> JustMozzy: Can't you use/redirect to PHP's syslog() function?
[16:32] <whoever> hi all I am on 13.04  and i am running dist-upgrade, and have also tried with clean  and i keep getting this error, http://pastebin.com/FPj8nqjD
[16:32] <JustMozzy> TJ-: I could... but do I want to go through all that code and change it? especially that it is not my code hehe
[16:32] <whoever> I have also tried to delete the archive it complains about and still get the same error
[16:32] <TJ-> JustMozzy: Does the vhost run as the www-data user, or as a suexec user?
[16:32] <ramsub07> Hi guys how do i find the host-name from IP address in a LAN ?
[16:33] <whoever> can somesone assist
[16:33] <JustMozzy> TJ-: I think the default is www-data. how can I check for sure?
[16:33] <whoever> ramsub07: in a gui?
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: you're using a broken ppa, and 13.04 is EOL
[16:33] <up201307684> lala
[16:33] <sibok> Hi, does anyone knows how should i proceed in order to solve that upgrade issue? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ac8aaa4f7a3cf27d69d1 thx!
[16:34] <Ubuntu1> I did not encrypt my home folder upon install, is their a way to encrypt the whole drive with out re installing?  I dont have enough storage space for a full backup.
[16:34] <ramsub07> No i am in a terminal
[16:34] <ramsub07> *from a terminal
[16:34] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: i assume it is a rhythmbox ppa and i have commended them from the list and still get the error
[16:34] <TJ-> JustMozzy: If you haven't specified an suexec then it will be the default
[16:34] <OerHeks> whoever, remove that ppa, or do not use dist-upgrade but just sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:35] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: i have my ver wrong it is 13.10
[16:35] <eridu> TJ-: I've tried your launcher and I still see the same behavior. launch the default profile; launch the alternate profile; move both to different workspaces; switch to the default profile; switch to the empty workspace, then hit the alternate launcher unity button
[16:35] <TJ-> JustMozzy: php will be restricted by to directories at or below its base_dir ... so it probably doesn't have permissions to write in /var/log/
[16:35] <eridu> TJ-: on my system, that switches you back to the default profile window
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: did you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get clean ... seems the ppa is jacob/media
[16:35] <TJ-> eridu: Sounds like a unity bug
[16:35] <JustMozzy> TJ-: oh so the whole chain of folders would have to be set? eek
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: since its in the middle of installing it will still continue to try installing
[16:36] <eridu> Ubuntu1: I don't think there's a way to do full-disk encryption incrementally, but you should be able to do use ecryptfs to encrypt your home directory
[16:36] <TJ-> JustMozzy: remember, PHP constrains where scripts can read/write for obvious reasons
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: you would have to contact the ppa maintainer for help
[16:36] <eridu> TJ-: are you saying the behavior is different on your system? you implied so earlier but I'm not sure you understood me
[16:37] <Ubuntu1> eridu:  thanks
[16:37] <TJ-> Ubuntu1: Do you want to encrypt your $HOME now, or really want to encrypt the entire disk?
[16:37] <ramsub07> whoever: ?
[16:37] <TJ-> eridu: Yes, behaviour is different, but I operate with multiple X screens over 6 displays and 2 GPUs, so my setup might behave differently
[16:38] <JustMozzy> TJ-: yupp. I think I'll just simply let it write in the webroot and secure that folder with .htaccess
[16:38] <eridu> TJ-: even if you launch them both in the same X screen?
[16:38] <TJ-> eridu: Yes
[16:39] <Gnar> GOOD MRONING VIETNAM
[16:39] <ramsub07> Hi guys how do i find the host-name from IP address in a LAN ?
[16:39] <eridu> TJ-: when did you install your system? I might have old configuration because this one's been upgraded a lot
[16:40] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: so ater apt-get clean and apt-get upgrade, then do or don't do apt-get dist-upgrade with the ppa's commented
[16:40] <TJ-> Ubuntu1: To encrypt your home see "man ecryptfs-setup-private"
[16:40] <TJ-> eridu: years ago :)
[16:40] <Gnar> what do you guys make of the following error? xbmc : Depends: xbmc-bin (< 2:13.0~git20140210.0206-699163e-0saucy.1~) but 2:13.0~git20140211.0204-82b8c3bc-0saucy is to be installed
[16:41] <TJ-> Gnar: dependency problem :)  the package to be installed is too new
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: its not going to do anything as its partially installed, so apt/dpkg will want to complete the installation before doing anything else, you you need to fix the broken package as is.
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: fot that you should contact the ppa maintainer for help
[16:42] <te> How to speed up grub?  (Change timeout.)
[16:42] <Ubuntu1> TJ: I dont have enough storage for backup of home folder, will this overwrite everything, or will it encrypt while keeping the folders integrity?
[16:43] <Gnar> TJ: is it because im trying to install on my new intel NUC? or did the people who put the nightly build up screw it up?
[16:43] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: crap, i has hoping to not have to contack the maintainer
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: this is one reason why using PPAs can be bad
[16:44] <TJ-> Ubuntu1: The way encrypted homes work is the directory /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/ is created and (if you use the --bootstrap option) everything currently in home is encrypted and written to "/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private/"
[16:44] <eridu> TJ-: actually, on my system, unity doesn't even show the alternate profile as running after I start it
[16:44] <Ubuntu1> TJ;  ok
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> Gnar: are you using 2 different ppas for that?
[16:46] <Gnar> hitsuji: no
[16:46] <TJ-> Gnar:  you could try pinning the versions with something like "apt-get install xmbc-bin=2:13.0~git20140210.0206-699163e-0saucy.1~ xbmc"
[16:46] <glitsj16> te: you need to edit /etc/default/grub to change timeouts, either from terminal with "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" or using GUI with "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" .. changing GRUB_TIMEOUT=.. to a lower value should do it
[16:47] <glitsj16> te: also after editing, do a "sudo update-grub" to create fresh grub.cfg
[16:49] <te> glitsj16: I've just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and it seems that the timeout is forever...
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> te: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub
[16:50] <TJ-> te: Does it eventually boot? It may be waiting for/stuck by some device driver or configuration, or doing that whole "Waiting another 60 seconds for the network" thing
[16:50] <TJ-> te: in other words, are you 100% sure the delay is in waiting for the grub menu, or is it after grub has loaded and executed the linux kernel?
[16:51] <te> hitsujiTMO: Ok,
[16:52] <te> TJ-: It's the grub menu, just sits there forever
[16:52] <te> I'm booting it now,  will be back as tgm
[16:52] <TJ-> te: that is expected behaviour if the simple boot flag hasn't been set
[16:53] <TJ-> te: caused because grub believes the last time the machine started, it didn't successfully start the OS
[16:53] <Ubuntu1> TJ: INFO:  Once the migration succeeds, you may recover most of this space by deleting the cleartext directory.
[16:53] <Ubuntu1> ERROR:  Not enough free disk space.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu1: sudo apt-get clean    may help
[16:55] <te> Well, it's just booting to black screen.
[16:55] <ramsub07> Guys how do i resolve host name from IP address in a LAN?
[16:56] <SpudDogg> ramsub07: reverse dns entries
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: nslookup ipaddress
[16:56] <te> !nomodeset
[16:56] <ramsub07> nslookup not working
[16:57] <SpudDogg> ramsub07: you get an error that it's not found?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/basic-command-to-resolve-ip-to-hostname-582026/
[16:57] <Ubuntu1> TJ: du: cannot access `/home/usrname/.gvfs': Permission denied
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: dig -x ip
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: went to google, typed 'ip to name linux'  hit ENTER.....
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: easy peasy, yeah?
[16:59] <ramsub07> Nope
[17:00] <ramsub07> the answers for MAC are working but not for host-name
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916010/
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> ramsub07: shows 8.8.8.8 = google-public-dns-a.google.com
[17:02] <SpudDogg> ramsub07: you'll need reverse DNS entries (search around for rDNS) to resolve an IP to a name.
[17:02] <tgm_> Here is my /etc/default/grub file:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916014/
[17:06] <tgm_> I don't quite understand how to set nomodeset permanetly
[17:06] <tgm_> Any help will be most appreciated
[17:07] <TJ-> tgm  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"  which will apply to multiser and single-user recovery entries in the grub menu
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> tgm_: in /etc/default/grub set: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[17:08] <she_dyed> tgm_: maybe you *know* what resolution works for that screen,
[17:09] <tgm_> she_dyed: No, I don't know.  But xrandr reports 1600x900       50.0*
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> tgm_: do you have anything set in /boot/grub/grubenv ?
[17:11] <tgm_> hitsujiTMO: I don't know, let me see...
[17:11] <she_dyed> wheres the rest of grb, tgm_
[17:11] <tgm_> # GRUB Environment Block and a bunch of #######s
[17:12] <tgm_> she_dyed: I dono, rest of what?  grb?
[17:12] <she_dyed> see that GRUB_gfxMODE line tgm_?
[17:12] <she_dyed> #25
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> tgm_: nothing set below that?
[17:13] <tgm_> hitsujiTMO: My /boot/grub/grubenv file:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916074/
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> tgm_: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.conf
[17:14] <she_dyed> he did
[17:14] <she_dyed> #11
[17:15] <she_dyed>  add nomodeset inside the pair of quotes, line 11
[17:15] <she_dyed> tgm_: ^
[17:16] <she_dyed> see what TJ recommended too^
[17:16] <tgm_> # GRUB Environment Block and a bunch of #######s /boot/grub/grub.conf: No such file or directory
[17:17] <tgm_> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:17] <tgm_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916093/
[17:18] <tgm_> Here is my /etc/default/grub (so far):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916102
[17:18] <tgm_> hitsujiTMO: I do not have grub.conf
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> tgm_: sorry, meant .cfg
[17:19] <TJ-> tgm_: The grub.cfg looks correct to me, if you're wanting "nomodeset"
[17:20] <tgm_> So, how about the timeout?  Can we get it to go on with it, (instead of just sitting there)?
[17:20] <tgm_> ... hate to be such a pest but ...
[17:21] <she_dyed> it should proceed
[17:21] <koell> MARK SHUTTLEWORT SHAVE UR BEARD PLS!
[17:21] <TJ-> tgm_: As I said earlier, that is a protection mechanism. If the OS doesn't set the simple boot flag, then grub assumes the last boot failed, and so waits at the menu for operator assistance
[17:21] <she_dyed> ah
[17:21] <tgm_> TJ-: Ok, (sorry I missed that).
[17:22] <mincos> or could you suggest me a tool for that?
[17:22] <mincos> hello everyone, in my previous distro I had a tool to extract audio from downloaded videos. but I forgot its name. it was a very easy tool to use. could you maybe help me?
[17:22] <TJ-> tgm4883_: As Linux boots, one of the entries in dmesg should show that being set
[17:22] <tgm_> Generating grub.cfg
[17:23] <TJ-> oops...grrrr tab-completion
[17:23] <tgm_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916134/
[17:23] <TJ-> tgm_: I'll look locally; see if I can find an example from the logs
[17:24] <tgm_> Does it look ok?  ^^^^  (update-grub)
[17:25] <BrixSat> hello
[17:25] <BrixSat> im making a ssh server1 "tail -f /var/log/apache/error.log" >> /tmp/error.log
[17:25] <BrixSat> but this keeps hanging when network flaps, is there a way to make it die when network flaps, so i can make a watchdog in cron
[17:25] <tgm_> You guys think it's ok to reboot?
[17:25] <tgm_> (I'm anxious to tie a ribbon on this thing.)
[17:28] <tgm_> Well, I guess I'll give it a shot.  ...(reboot)... brb...
[17:32] <TJ-> BrixSat: You could switch apache to syslog logging, and redirect the apache output over a VPN link to a local syslog daemon
[17:33] <BrixSat> TJ-:  to much complicated why would i create a vpn just for that? the machines are already in the same intranet :)
[17:34] <elementz> I am using openVPN and would like to route only certain traffic belonging to some protocol over my vpn connection, while using my normal internet-connection for everything else. Would that be possible somehow?
[17:34] <te> From tgm_  It's fixed.  Thanks all....
[17:34] <Xuisce1_> hi
[17:34] <hony> i got #aircrack-ng Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services    HOW to identify  ????
[17:34] <Xuisce1_> oh hony  identify with NickServ
[17:34] <BrixSat> elementz:  yes, you want route to be changed
[17:34] <Humbedooh> hony: register your nickname first
[17:34] <Xuisce1_>   /msg NicKServ identify username password
[17:35] <hony> where ??
[17:35] <elementz> BrixSat: Ah found it. thx
[17:35] <Humbedooh> hony:  /msg nickserv help register
[17:35] <Xuisce1_> hony:  just type it in
[17:35] <Xuisce1_> :)
[17:35] <karstenk1977_> hello, it seems that my standard ubuntu 12 lts installation cannot ping with ip4. can only ping with ip6. how to change to only ip4????
[17:35] <Xuisce1_> in the input box
[17:36] <elementz> hony: Go read the FAQ https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify Also there is a support channel for network-related questions: #freenode
[17:38] <xerror> hi all. i can easily have nautilus set a networkfolder SFTP on xx.local which leads  to the /home dir of the server. How could i change the desttination to another folder ?
[17:40] <xerror> or alternativ said: how could i edit the link adress of that SFTP on xx.local Folder ?
[17:41] <ocx> hello i have a major problem with my usb sticks, anyone can bring his stick and plug it into my pc, i would like to map the partitions on each usb the same everytime the stick is re-inserted, what is happening now is that sometimes fpartition1 goes into usb1 mountpoint and sometimes into usb2 mountpoint
[17:42] <xerror> btw, isnt that a disadvantage that the IRC info is showing everyones local username besides his IP ??
[17:42] <glitsj16> mincos: there's soundconverter or transmageddon that do audio extraction, to name a few
[17:42] <TJ-> ocx: 'bls' in ##linux has just explained how to do it
[17:43] <ocx> TJ-: i need a second opinion to understand how it works
[17:43] <ocx> why is the system mapping to usb1 and sometimes to usb2
[17:43] <bobptz> system reboots instead of shutdown
[17:44] <bobptz> clean install of ubuntu 12.04
[17:44] <mincos> glitsj16, I'd used sound converter earlier, it had a problem, didnt convert. the one I last used was a quite simple one. it might even have been a command line tool. but I cant remember, it's been a while
[17:44] <bobptz> I tried boot-repair
[17:44] <TJ-> ocx: where are these mountpoints? what ubuntu release is it?
[17:44] <bobptz> disconnected netword, nothing helps
[17:44] <ocx>  3.8.13.4 ubuntut 12.04
[17:44] <ocx> TJ-: i am using usbmount
[17:44] <bobptz> I tried with LIVE CD and noticed it would NOT shut down
[17:45] <bobptz> from boot-repair:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916026/
[17:46] <TJ-> bobptz: the shutdown relies upon ACPI services from the motherboard BIOS/firmware... some are known buggy and don't correctly handle the instructions.
[17:46] <bobptz> TJ, you say I have a buggy bios?
[17:46] <ocx> TJ-: so my question is why ubuntu is deciding 1 time that partition1 is usb2 and another time that is is mountpoint usb1?
[17:47] <ocx> i need it to statically map partition1 of any device inserted into usb1
[17:47] <she_dyed> you could view dmesg | tail
[17:47] <bobptz> TJ-, you say I have a buggy bios?
[17:48] <glitsj16> mincos: for cli it could have been mplayer, mencoder, sox .. try searching through the software center to see if you recognise anything familiar .. lots of tools for that
[17:48] <she_dyed> ocx, you can make entries in /etc/fstab
[17:48] <ocx> she_dyed: like what
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> ocx: what you're describing isn't exactly trivial. how exactly are you mounting the usb devices? are there multipme devices? are they mounted at run time or at boot time?
[17:49] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: I think i got it figured out , I had to completly remove, not just uncheck the ppa, and  pkg, then clean, then upgrade, and am using a differnt ppa from rhythmbox then the jacob/media one http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-rhythmbox-3-0-on-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-linux-mint-15-olivia-and-pear-os-8/
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | whoever
[17:50] <whoever> ubottu: thx
[17:50] <ocx> hitsujiTMO: they are mounted at runtime
[17:50] <ocx> using usbmount, everytime a usb is inserted
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> ocx: give the file systems a label. then it will be mounted to /media/$USER/<label>
[17:51] <bobptz> TJ-, I have an ASUS motherboard.  Could you tell me what tests to do?
[17:51] <whoever> ubottu: i figured as much, that why I will take you out behind the AS-4700 later :-)
[17:51] <Gotolei> having some problems with keyboard shortcuts
[17:51] <Gotolei> it's using the terminal shortcuts system-wide
[17:51] <TJ-> bobptz: It may be, it is one option. It's up to the hardware to do the shutdown/restart so it is not doing as asked
[17:52] <ocx> hitsujiTMO: i will have random usb inserted
[17:52] <Gotolei> just reinstalled this morning too
[17:52] <ocx> different filesystems, different partitions that i cannot predict
[17:52] <TJ-> ocx: If you want to know how usbmount works, read its script-file, and its config file. That has for instance MOUNTPOINTS="..." with the list of eligible mountpoints
[17:52] <ocx> i need them to be fixed everytime they are reinserted...
[17:53] <TJ-> ocx: also read the package's README.gz file that explains how it works
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> ocx: have a script watch /media/$USER for changes. then get the mount point from that
[17:54] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: usbmount is special, it has a preconfigured set of mountpoints /media/usb{0..7} and uses them in order as new devices are hotplugged
[17:55] <ArthurB> quick poll, as of today, which works best / gives the least headache: nvidia or at ATI? assume no objection to using binary drivers
[17:55] <TJ-> ocx: 2nd paragraph of the usbmount README.gz starts "If the device plugged provides a model name, a symbolic link at /var/run/usbmount/MODELNAME pointing to the mountpoint is automatically created..."
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ahh ok... I'm just used to seeing partitions pop up in /media/$USER
[17:56] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, that's gvfs
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: noted for future
[17:57] <Zooklubba> yo, Janhouse are you around?
[17:57] <TJ-> ocx: hitsujiTMO As usbmount docs say, you can install scripts in "/etc/usbmount/{u,}mount.d/" to do custom jobs such as creating file-system LABEL or UUID based device symlinks, to get constant naming for devices
[17:57] <Janhouse> ?
[17:58] <Zooklubba> https://github.com/Janhouse/4g-connect-linux that one. AT^DHCP? Error
[17:59] <Zooklubba> trying to get a silly huawei modem to work on a computer :(
[18:00] <Janhouse> oh, ok.
[18:00] <Janhouse> well.
[18:00] <Zooklubba> called my carrier and asked for setup guidance. They replied with a question "why dont you install something else, like osx or windows"
[18:02] <TJ-> Zooklubba: what's the model? what's the USB ID(s) of it? Does it present just pseduo serial ports, or does it present a proper ethernet interface?
[18:02] <Zooklubba> TJ: Huawei E5776s-32. Using lsusb it says it\s a E398 in the correct mode.
[18:03] <Zooklubba> But I dont get the alternative when setting up a new connection in nm
[18:03] <TeraJL> from where does google chrome get my location? and is there any way to access it?
[18:04] <Maddeth> Hey all, I am having nfs issues when trying to mount a drive, I have tried restarting nfs, but I am not sure what's up
[18:04] <Zooklubba> TJ-: so in lsusb it says E398 LTE/UMTS/GSM Modem/NetworkCard
[18:04] <Zooklubba> it's in 12d1:1506
[18:04] <Zooklubba> but after that. Im just stuck
[18:04] <Maddeth> mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered. this is on 10.04
[18:04] <TJ-> Zooklubba: are you using usb_modeswitch with it via a udev rule?
[18:05] <P0rsche> hi guys, i'm new to ubuntu and linux and I have a noob question regarding file/folder permissions
[18:05] <Maddeth> P0rsche: go ahead
[18:05] <P0rsche> I am trying to learn Joomla and have successfully installed LAMP on my VirtualBox under Win7
[18:05] <P0rsche> so far so god
[18:05] <P0rsche> now I followed a tutorial how to do that
[18:05] <Gnar> why is ubuntu such a turd?
[18:05] <P0rsche> and my Joomla is installed to var/www/
[18:05] <Zooklubba> TJ-: At the moment no. I tried to mess (make it go to 1506) a bunch but nothing helped. Im not really sure what to do with usb_modeswitch either. But I've set one command and sent a message
[18:06] <P0rsche> now I want to work on a tutorial on how to make a joomla template from scratch
[18:06] <P0rsche> and it starts out: "make a new folder in your joomla template directory"
[18:06] <P0rsche> but I cannot do that
[18:06] <Maddeth> P0rsche: how are you trying to do it?
[18:07] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, I have a similar device 12d1:14dc. When it mode-switches it presents a cdc_ether device
[18:07] <SonikkuAmerica> !language | Gnar
[18:07] <P0rsche> I go to the folder var/www/joomla/templates and right click, like i would do it in windows
[18:08] <P0rsche> should I use the terminal and sudo mkdir?
[18:08] <Maddeth> P0rsche: that would be the way I would do it :)
[18:08] <Zooklubba> TJ-: when restarting it it shows itself as 12d1:14fe iirc. When I checked the usb setting when I had it running on my mac it showed 12d1:1506 so I guess that's how it should show itself. I dont know about the cdc stuff :/
[18:08] <P0rsche> ok cool thanks :)
[18:08] <P0rsche> so one more question about this..
[18:08] <Maddeth> P0rsche: yea
[18:09] <P0rsche> linux as a standard has disabled file permissions on any other than the usr folder
[18:09] <P0rsche> which is good and I understand that
[18:09] <P0rsche> to keep the sys clean
[18:09] <P0rsche> but why would I break from this rule here?
[18:09] <Zooklubba> TJ-: basically I've been trying to wrap my head around this and get it to work for 2 days. Billions of different tabs and reading forum posts and still clueless.
[18:09] <Moral_> Hi, I updated my kernel today and now my mousepad doesn't work. How can I downgrade?
[18:10] <Maddeth> P0rsche: not quite sure what you are asking :)
[18:10] <TJ-> Zooklubba: does the device currently get listed by "lsusb" as 12d1:1506 ?
[18:10] <Zooklubba> yes TJ-
[18:10] <P0rsche> I read in ubuntu forums that as a security feature, ubuntu has disabled file permissions for the non-root-user to keep the system clean
[18:10] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, that tells us usb_modeswitch did its work correctly then
[18:11] <Zooklubba> dmesg mentions cdc_ncm: wwan0 register blabla mobile broadband network device
[18:11] <P0rsche> so people cannot mess up files and folders where they're not supposed to
[18:11] <Zooklubba> gsm modem converter now attatched to ttyUSB0
[18:11] <TJ-> Zooklubba: I was about to ask that... that is good!
[18:11] <P0rsche> bascially you're only supposed to work on your /usr folder
[18:11] <P0rsche> in my understandin
[18:11] <TJ-> Zooklubba: In Network Manager's nmapplet control panel, have you enabled "Mobile Broadband" ?
[18:12] <Zooklubba> TJ-: it also mentions scsi cd-rom huawei mass storage and direct access huawei TF card storage. I read that you should ejct the CD mount
[18:12] <xjkx> (13.10/64 bits) Visudo doesnt show my default user there, but it can sudo, how come ? I am used to make a new user then copy how default user is mentioned there, but default user isnt there, although default user can sudo
[18:12] <TJ-> Zooklubba: To be clear "wwan0" is the ethernet interface it is presenting
[18:12] <P0rsche> I just want to understand if there is a particular reason that the "extra road" of manually granting file permissions for creatinga  new folder for a new joomla website or template
[18:12] <P0rsche> maybe there's no ;)
[18:13] <Zooklubba> TJ-: I can add a new network in nm-applet. Selecting mobile broadband does NOT show the mobile broadband under "create a connection for this mobile broadband device:"
[18:13] <Maddeth> P0rsche: not necasarily, it's more a case of locking down everything you might not want to break accidently, you will find yourself using sudo for a lot of things
[18:13] <P0rsche> oh ok
[18:13] <TJ-> Zooklubba: Does it show up as a regular *Wired* interface instead?
[18:13] <P0rsche> well it makes sense, so I will use the terminal to create the directory
[18:14] <P0rsche> and I guess I will also not be able to create/write new files into the folder without the terminal?
[18:14] <Zooklubba> TJ-: Not like my android phone using usb tethering did. Nothing automatically and I cant seem to
[18:14] <Zooklubba> seem to find it anywhere
[18:14] <TJ-> Zooklubba: If you could pastebin /var/log/syslog that might help me
[18:17] <Maddeth> P0rsche: I have not used the GUI in a while, try adding your user to the www-data group
[18:17] <Maddeth> that should give you permissions to do what you need
[18:17] <Krahazik> Can some one help me with starting the Unity Desktop from command line. Current version is Ubuntu 11.10 server. Planning to upgrade to 12.04 after installing the desktop.
[18:18] <P0rsche> Maddeth: how do I do that, adding my user to the www-data group?
[18:18] <unstable> This might be a weird questionn.. I have 3 terminal windows open. I know this because when I hold alt tab, I can see three. Though when I select the third one.. it doesn't appear anywhere. THough the other two appear fine. How can I make this third terminal window show?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: unity isnt a desktop, its a shell. a plugin for compiz
[18:19] <Krahazik> ok that conflicts whith everything els I have read about it?
[18:19] <Zooklubba> TJ-: sure thing. Latest bit is http://pastebin.com/5ATYs1df
[18:19] <Krahazik> now im really confused?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: if you run ccsm in an installed Ubuntu using Unity, you will see it
[18:19] <Maddeth> P0rsche: sudo usermod -a -G www-data username
[18:19] <Zooklubba> TIL: Pastebin has a 500kb limit
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: you can disable unity if you want, gnome is and always has been the default DE
[18:20] <Krahazik> ccsm is not currently installed
[18:20] <Krahazik> I am not trying to dissable unity
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: if you run it, you will see a tick box for unity. Its a compiz plugin like wobbly windows
[18:20] <Krahazik> twhen I tried to install Ubunto Desktop version it was trying to use something labeled "Unity Desktop" but the instellation failed so I installed Ubuntu server
[18:21] <Krahazik> now I am trying to get the "Unity Desktop" installed and running
[18:22] <P0rsche> Maddeth: thank's a lot!
[18:22] <TJ-> Zooklubba: That's OK its the USB device entries towards the end of the file that are important
[18:22] <Maddeth> P0rsche: np's you are welcome
[18:22] <Krahazik> that same gui that the ubunto desktop version had
[18:22] <unstable> It doesn't show from super w
[18:22] <Krahazik> even aptitude labeles it a desktop
[18:22] <unstable> It only shows on alt tab
[18:23] <Krahazik> kinda confused here
[18:24] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, what seems to be happening is the Network Manager correctly launches modem manager, which tries to use the serial port presented to discover *other* serial ports on the device, by sending commands to the device. It hits "Failed to organize modem ports: (0) Failed to find primary port." and crashes, is restarted, and is stuck in that loop
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: why did you not just install the Ubuntu desktop ISO?
[18:25] <Krahazik> it failed every time I tried to
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    will give you a Gnome DE, Compiz WM and Unity shell
[18:25] <Krahazik> no such package
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-desktop
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-desktop precise
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-desktop saucy
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: take your pick
[18:26] <Zooklubba> TJ- right thanks. Any clues about a workaround? I quickly found this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/1093288 and it doesnt look good
[18:28] <Zooklubba> and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115379 jeez
[18:29] <TJ-> Zooklubba: which ubuntu release is it?
[18:29] <Zooklubba> 13.10
[18:29] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, let me pull in the source-code, see what's what
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: so, you are either not using ubuntu, or have the main repo disabled
[18:30] <kelw_> hey -- stuck installing postgresql -- some kind of dependency issue.  Please check this output: https://gist.github.com/kelw/8940961
[18:30] <Krahazik> or I misspelled something the first time I tried the install command
[18:31] <Krahazik> its installing now
[18:33] <ivanoats> kelw_: check this answer http://serverfault.com/questions/563073/postgresql-9-3-installation-fails
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Krahazik: use TAB to autocomplete package names, lots easier
[18:34] <Krahazik> I had forgotten about that
[18:36] <TJ-> Zooklubba: I have some other things to do but I'll dig into this, and send you a memo via memoserv on here if/when I find anything of use to you
[18:36] <Zooklubba> !g memoserv
[18:37] <Zooklubba> TJ- is that just like a query or is it something else :S
[18:38] <TJ-> Zooklubba: It's a stored message in case you're offline, which you can read via memoserv
[18:38] <TJ-> Zooklubba: /msg memoserv help
[18:38] <Zooklubba> oh cool. Thanks TJ-
[18:39] <TJ-> Zooklubba: the Huawei plugin of modem-manager has a debug mode, we should get that enabled so you can gather more useful logs
[18:45] <Zooklubba> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/avNJKTT2
[18:48] <WHAT_UP> if i get xubuntu 14.04 alpha 2, will i be able to upgrade it to the release version when that comes out?
[18:48] <Pici> Yes.
[18:48] <Pici> !final
[18:51] <WHAT_UP> do you recommend i go for 13.whatever or go for 14.04 at this point? i'd like to have it work, but it's not absolutely a mission critical machine
[18:52] <Pici> WHAT_UP: If you're not sure, go with 13.10 now and you can always choose to upgrade in April to 14.04 if you want.
[18:54] <WHAT_UP> Pici: i haven't done a clean upgrade in a while (since breezy, i think). do they still blow everything up?
[18:54] <Pici> WHAT_UP: nope. in my experience, they are rather smooth.
[19:02] <Xuisce1> hi all
[19:02] <demophobia> is wine the best method of emulating windows to install windows xp type software?
[19:02] <Xuisce1> hi all
[19:02] <Xuisce1> yes demophobia
[19:02] <Xuisce1> it should work ok
[19:02] <Xuisce1> :)
[19:04] <tmmunq> you can also try reactos or dosbox
[19:04] <xangua> demophobia: also Wine Is Not an Emulator, it depends of the program and you can check that on the wine app database
[19:04] <rawrmonster> is there not a display server that uses the gpl? I started looking and saw that x11 is under there own license, and wayland is under MIT.
[19:04] <Xuisce1> hi all
[19:06] <demophobia> xangua, if it's not, then what is it?
[19:06] <demophobia> i thought it literally stood for WINdows Emulation
[19:07] <dimentrius> hi))
[19:07] <zykotick9> demophobia: they call it a compatibility layer... or something
[19:08] <toyz123> hi?
[19:08] <SofS> demophobia: http://www.winehq.org/about/ first sentence
[19:09] <demophobia> hahaha XD thanks sofs
[19:09] <nikolam> How do you know if your RAM works as ECC? (Ram is declared ECC Unbuffered and it is IBM server MoBo supporting ECC, it is P4 with memory controller inside Chipset)
[19:10] <nikolam> Starting Memtest when booting, does not show ECC turned on (displays off) but it could be because memory controller is not in CPU..
[19:11] <Pici> nikolam: Thats not really on-topic for this channel, please use ##hardware for that
[19:11] <nikolam> aha Pici ok, I was thinking, how to check it on Ubuntu? Since I am running 13.10 64bit now. So see, it is also OS question, too.
[19:12] <SofS> is there a way to change between icedtea 6 and 7 on the fly for normal users or only through "update-alternatives --config itweb-settings "?
[19:13] <nikolam> more precisely, How Linux and Ubuntu report if ECC RAM fails , so there must be a way of System to check and report if ECC is doing it's job.
[19:14] <TJ-> nikolam: Try "sudo dmidecode | grep -A13 -B1 'Memory Device'  "
[19:15] <nikolam> uuu nice, TJ- :)
[19:15] <TJ-> nikolam: Does it confirm ECC RAM modules?
[19:16] <nikolam> dunno, does not mention it at all. saying, Total Width: 72 bits, Data Width: 64 bits, will pastebin
[19:17] <she_dyed> most times, its printed on the ram
[19:17] <TJ-> nikolam: That's ECC ... total width > than data width ... the extra bits are the parities
[19:17] <nikolam> http://pastebin.com/HEBJXvAj
[19:17] <TJ-> nikolam: so the next question would be, is there a mobo setup option to enable/disable use of ECC?
[19:17] <nikolam> yeah, I catched that :P TJ- .:)
[19:18] <nikolam> TJ-, no. It is some server mobo and controller is obviously not in CPU, I will look again into it, MoBo supports both ecc Unbuffered and non-ecc.
[19:19] <nikolam> Memtest does not recognize ECC, I suppose because it has nothing to do with CPU.
[19:19] <TJ-> nikolam: what's the model number of the mobo? ... memetest86+ should recognise ECC based on its SPID
[19:20] <nikolam> Might then read more docs on hardware and some docs on Ubuntu for it (maybe there are some drivers from manufacturer)
[19:20] <nikolam> aha just a sec.
[19:20] <nikolam> TJ-, IBM eServer 206m -[8485Z01]-
[19:21] <TJ-> nikolam: oh hang on! what verison of memtest is it? "apt-cache policy memtest86+"
[19:21] <TJ-> nikolam: All ECC support was removed in v4.x ... is slowly being reintroduced in v5.x
[19:21] <nikolam> Installed: 4.20-1.1ubuntu5
[19:22] <TJ-> nikolam: That's it them - memtest86+ doesn't have ECC support
[19:22] <nikolam> oh, so THAt is it :P thanks a lot TJ-
[19:22] <nikolam> I will also look at to learn how Ubuntu/linux in general recognize ecc events during work
[19:23] <TJ-> nikolam: see the EDAC info, e.g. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/edac.txt
[19:27] <Bermuda> I Installed Ubuntu But There Might Have Been Some Sort Of Leak So The Hardware Appears To Reproduce
[19:27] <pepijndevos> Im trying to install ubuntu on my 2008 intel imac. After some magic it boots from usb, but the installer crashes on installing grub. Any help?
[19:31] <Pici> Bermuda: Can you clarify exactly what you mean by that?
[19:32] <mikedell> Hey guys
[19:32] <mikedell> Hoping i can get a little help on a pptp setup issue im having
[19:33] <mikedell> http://askubuntu.com/questions/119534/easiest-way-to-setup-ubuntu-as-a-vpn-server I followed the steps listed
[19:33] <mikedell> I connect from my android but it isn't working
[19:34] <mikedell> I am watching my log and i see "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP"
[19:34] <daftykins> mikedell: define 'isn't working'
[19:34] <mikedell> I cant get to google through the vpn by name or ip
[19:35] <Bermuda> any help?
[19:36] <daftykins> Bermuda: not until you phrase a question that makes sense, no
[19:36] <wonderworld> is there any way to make ubuntu redo the automatic detection and configuration of gfx-hardware it does when doing a fresh install?
[19:36] <Bermuda> :(
[19:37] <daftykins> wonderworld: why what's happening?
[19:37] <wonderworld> x doesn't start anymore
[19:37] <wonderworld> older ubuntu 11.10 i think at a friends house
[19:38] <daftykins> wonderworld: that'll be unsupported then, can't help you with that.
[19:38] <wonderworld> ok, what would i do with a current ubuntu?
[19:38] <daftykins> install it :)
[19:38] <wonderworld> ...in case that error would happe
[19:38] <wonderworld> n
[19:38] <wonderworld>  ;)
[19:39] <Nothing_Much> h264 won't work on Firefox on 14.04 :(
[19:39] <daftykins> wonderworld: i'm not going to help you with an outdated release i'm afraid, that's simply how it goes. backup and install newer
[19:39] <daftykins> Nothing_Much: #ubuntu+1 for future release talk please
[19:39] <imalivecd> Using xubuntu livecd off a USB stick (pendrivelinux), doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda to get rid of everything on the drive... but dd continues to use ram until it locks up the xubuntu image...
[19:40] <Nothing_Much> Thanks daftykins
[19:40] <imalivecd> Anyone have any ideas about that?
[19:40] <mikedell> Any ideas on pptp?
[19:42] <daftykins> imalivecd: you'd want to specify a blocksize too to speed it up. "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M"
[19:42] <imalivecd> Probably a good idea.
[19:42] <imalivecd> I considered it earlier, didn't decide to do it tho. lol
[19:43] <daftykins> mikedell: i know there are a lot of bugs with certain implementations of VPN on android, but my guess would be that you've not configured the IP settings the VPN is issuing correctly
[19:43] <imalivecd> Sector size is 512, that's probably sane, no?
[19:44] <imalivecd> I don't understand this... the system's ram usage is climbing
[19:44] <mikedell> daftykins: what should i be setting for my localip and remoteip?
[19:44] <imalivecd> But no program is using that ram...
[19:45] <mikedell> daftykins: do I want local to be my public IP?
[19:45] <daftykins> imalivecd: you're familiar with the way Linux utilises RAM i take it?
[19:45] <falseroot_> join
[19:45] <falseroot_> join #aaa
[19:45] <daftykins> mikedell: well that depends on your setup. the virtual VPN interface on the server side should have an IP of <whatever> which would then also be the gateway IP of your connecting client
[19:46] <imalivecd> I'm a computer science major, I'd like to assume my graduation says I'm not retarded at things like this...
[19:46] <falseroot_> join #ubuntu
[19:47] <imalivecd> But while dd is running, mem usage climbs infinitely (top does NOT show memory usage for dd going up only total used memory)
[19:47] <imalivecd> When I kill the dd process
[19:47] <imalivecd> The ram drops back down to sane levels
[19:48] <mikedell> I have a public ip for my server and a private ip for it
[19:48] <daftykins> imalivecd: comp sci just means you can add up in binary, not do practical things ;)
[19:49] <daftykins> imalivecd: well, i can't help - i've never seen that behaviour i'm afraid. consider using a different version on your USB flash drive to run dd from, otherwise there are bootable 'boot and nuke' utilities out there
[19:50] <falseroot> join
[19:50] <imalivecd> Well, I'm opened to suggestions of why this is behaving so oddly. All I can think of is the kernel's implementation of the /dev/zero device is beyond stupid.
[19:50] <daftykins> lol.
[19:50] <daftykins> imalivecd: that's a very bold claim
[19:50] <daftykins> falseroot: i would really appreciate it if you'd stop doing that
[19:51] <imalivecd> Well, top no program climbing in memory points to the kernel being the one using the memory
[19:51] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: How are you measuring RAM usage?
[19:51] <daftykins> you can see within the last few messages, Jordan_U
[19:52] <imalivecd> Just using top.
[19:52] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: Which column of top?
[19:52] <imalivecd> I initially checked RES, but I should check VIRT just in case.
[19:52] <imalivecd> Though the dd process wasn't growing at that time
[19:53] <ZeloZelos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18F3CZveMwg
[19:53] <daftykins> no links thanks
[19:53] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: My guess is that the only RAM increase is in cache, and that that what's causing slowdown is the eviction of other process' cache.
[19:53] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: That and iowait.
[19:54] <woopstar> How do i install just one package from trusty while running saucy
[19:54] <woopstar> :)?
[19:54] <daftykins> woopstar: you don't.
[19:54] <woopstar> :(
[19:54] <woopstar> but i need mysql-utilities from trusty :(
[19:55] <daftykins> 'need' ? why?
[19:55] <imalivecd> Jordan_U: It's more than slowdown? It's infinite ram usage (I have 8GB, it starts at less than 1GB used, and exhausts all of it then locks up the livecd image)
[19:55] <woopstar> because saucy version is 1.1, but i need 1.3 which is in trusty
[19:56] <imalivecd> Maybe I'll download a different utility instead of dd and try that
[19:57] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: What is the exact dd command you ran? Please be sure that you are transcribing exactly the command that caused this problem.
[19:57] <daftykins> woopstar: what are you doing that claims to need this updated version?
[19:57] <woopstar> daftykins: mysqlfailover has the option to run as a daemon in 1.3, which is missing in 1.1
[19:57] <daftykins> i already recommended adding blocksize
[19:57] <daftykins> imalivecd: did you actually re-run with the bs=2M yet?
[19:57] <imalivecd> Hmm. Jordan_U: I did add a "time" to the front of the command, because I wanted to see how long it ran.
[19:58] <imalivecd> daftykins: I did bs=512
[19:58] <imalivecd> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512
[19:58] <imalivecd> That's the command Jordan_U
[19:58] <daftykins> imalivecd: why did you ignore what i said?
[19:58] <daftykins> block size has nothing to do with the drive's sector size
[19:59] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/partitions".
[19:59] <imalivecd> daftykins: Not like it fixes the problem anyways
[19:59] <imalivecd> Jordan_U: fdisk -l acceptable?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: Yes.
[20:00] <imalivecd> http://pastebin.com/JgAjnYXz
[20:00] <imalivecd> There you are.
[20:00] <imalivecd> Included the runs of dd for no reason
[20:01] <daftykins> imalivecd: i don't think there is a problem. were it me though, i'd be doing it from a TTY after killing X. then i'd see whether the RAM limit hitting corresponds with a drop in dd's write speed, which you can see of course by running "kill -USR1 $PID_of_dd"
[20:02] <donaire> man
[20:02] <woopstar> so? :)
[20:02] <imalivecd> daftykins: The kernel using 8 GB of ram is not a problem? lol
[20:02] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: I'm not sure what is going on here. Can you please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts?
[20:02] <imalivecd> Sure.
[20:02] <daftykins> imalivecd: well i already told you i think it's your setup and not the OS.
[20:02] <daftykins> but nm will leave you to jordan now
[20:03] <imalivecd> OK.
[20:03] <imalivecd> Thanks anyways
[20:03] <imalivecd> http://pastebin.com/74par1KD
[20:03] <imalivecd> Jordan_U: There you are
[20:04] <elianny> Quiien al chat ;/!!
[20:07] <daftykins> woopstar: maybe you could remove the packaged version and grab the source of the new to compile, or update the OS if you really need it
[20:07] <woopstar> i could yes
[20:08] <Jordan_U> imalivecd: I was thinking it might be the unionfs covering /dev/ somehow, leading to writes going to RAM. But thinking more about it that wouldn't make sense either. Can you please post the output of "free -m" run multiple times as the RAM usage is increasing?
[20:09] <imalivecd> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/5Dy8xNH0
[20:09] <imalivecd> Interesting to see buffers climbing.
[20:10] <pepijndevos> i'll be stuck on mac forever I guess.
[20:12] <Xuisce1> hi
[20:17] <imalivecd> Jordan_U: Interestingly enough, buffers is sitting idly at 178 when not using dd
[20:17] <imalivecd> And climbs seemingly without limits during the dd
[20:20] <Xuisce1> hi
[20:21] <SofS> is there a way to change between icedtea 6 and 7 on the fly for normal users or only root through "update-alternatives --config itweb-settings "?
[20:22] <han`> anyone know a trick to delete a directory of about 20 million, 5kb files?  trying find -delete, and a few others and it's taking hours and hasn't even started deleting yet
[20:22] <pepijndevos> SofS maybe some path tweaking? No idea
[20:22] <Zooklubba> TJ- btw, new error message after updating to trusty. Failed to find primary AT port
[20:23] <pepijndevos> han` rm -rf?
[20:23] <bekks> han`: find -delete is the slowest approach I do know of.
[20:23] <Zooklubba> could not grab port (usbmisc/cdc-wdm1): 'Cannot add port 'usbmisc/cdc-wdm1' unspported
[20:23] <Zooklubba> and then Failed to find primary AT port
[20:23] <han`> i'm trying an rsync trick which is supposed to be fast, but it's still taking forever
[20:24] <han`> find -delete is supposedly faster than find -exec rm
[20:25] <mshaw> why are you using find? just rm -rf the directory
[20:25] <han`> for speed?
[20:26] <mshaw> what
[20:26] <mshaw> are you looking for the slowest method?
[20:26] <bekks> find call rm once for every file.
[20:26] <mshaw> rm -rf <the directory>
[20:26] <han`> will try
[20:26] <bekks> han`: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/96935/faster-way-to-delete-large-number-of-files
[20:27] <bekks> that articles explains why find is slow.
[20:29] <zhangchun> #org-tools
[20:29] <han`> i guess everything is slow, but rm is the fastest at least
[20:29] <han`> thanks
[20:30] <she_dyed> ohnoes you have all been immortalized
[20:30] <rww> !1984 | she_dyed: well yes, but that's normal
[20:30] <han`> i got off using rm, because i started googling and all the examples were using find, but you're right, that doesn't make sense if i'm not trying to filter out any files
[20:32] <she_dyed> yes, weren't you going to nuke them anyway. if you weren't 100%, you could just drag it onto a USB thumb drive
[20:33] <she_dyed> at least it'll sit there until you KNOW you have no need for all of them
[20:35] <schnitzl> hi huys. i need a pdf tool to highlight text as simpel as possible. just highlighting, and maybe for orientation a sidebar with a preview of the pages or an index overview or something....any suggestions?
[20:36] <wisler> hi
[20:37] <sk1special> try this again..does thunderbird and gwibber not work with secondary authentication? fb/gmail both failed
[20:37] <ulkesh> sk1special: gmail allows you to create a token for an application that doesn't support 2-factor, i don't know about facebook
[20:39] <fulanito> hi
[20:39] <fulanito> is there anyway to know since when the disk got full?
[20:40] <sk1special> ulkesh, yeah used the token.. facebook got all the way to the end then said gwibber hadnt been setup to use fb. but its one of the one in its list..idk. (sorry if wrong channel just thought you all may know)
[20:40] <chris_> hi, how can i force ssh not to offer public keys? ssh offers all my public keys to a ssh server and i get disconnected for too many authentication failures.
[20:40] <fulanito> I already freeup space
[20:40] <fulanito> but I would like to know since when it got full?
[20:41] <han`> fulanito: you could check /var/log/syslog
[20:41] <daftykins> chris_: you can edit your config to prioritise a given key for a given server from what i understand
[20:43] <SofS> fulanito: try "df -h"
[20:43] <schnitzl> hi huys. i need a pdf tool to highlight text as simpel as possible. just highlighting, and maybe for orientation a sidebar with a preview of the pages or an index overview or something....any suggestions?
[20:46] <student> Hi everyone - I recently set up ubuntu to dual boot with windows 7. I am using three partitions for it - /boot, /home, and / .. Almost immediately after installing, I am told that / is running out of disk space - how do I get /home to be recognized?
[20:46] <student> would it be easiest to reinstall with one partition?
[20:48] <bekks> student: How large did you setup those partitions?
[20:49] <student> . / is 5.0 GB, /home is 20GB, boot is small
[20:49] <student> Thanks for the reply by the way
[20:49] <bekks> student: 5GB should be enough for an installation.
[20:50] <Gnar> where do i download ubuntu trusty from?
[20:50] <student> The installation was fine
[20:51] <student> and it runs well
[20:51] <student> bekks: however, I installed two or three programs and got a warning message that I am running out of disk space
[20:51] <student> bekks: which leads me to believe it is not utilizing the /home partition
[20:51] <she_dyed> dammit
[20:54] <lz1ppd> #cw
[20:54] <SofS> student: if by installing you meant "sudo something" then it will use either "/" or "/root"
[20:55] <bekks> student: /home is not used for installing programs, they are installed in / .
[20:55] <student> well that explains it I guess
[20:55] <student> bekks: is there any way to merge my partitions to give me more space without reinstalling?
[20:56] <bekks> student: you could backup /home, use a gparted live to merge the partitions, and then restore the backup of /home.
[20:57] <student> hmm
[20:57] <SofS> student: usually it is possible to install at /home, just not a .deb package, but non root scripts, some standalone or local compilation should be fine
[20:57] <student> bekks: I'd be concerned about messing up everything I guess. Do you know if I can just create one partition and install ubuntu there and keep the dual boot intact? or is a /boot partition necessary?
[20:57] <safri4> Hi.  I accidentally my Ubuntu.
[20:58] <bekks> student: a /boot is not necessary.
[20:58] <student> SofS: ok, thanks so much for your help!
[20:58] <OrokuSaki> anyone know how to run "Xmir -mir" properly?
[20:58] <OrokuSaki> as root
[20:58] <student> bekks: ok, I guess I'll wipe my ubuntu installation and just make one partition as /
[20:58] <student> bekks: thanks so much for your help!
[20:58] <bekks> student: you're welcome.
[20:59] <Xuisce1> hi drokusaki
[20:59] <OrokuSaki> sup Xui
[20:59] <OrokuSaki> I am trying to run Xmir inside Mir
[20:59] <Busybyeski> howdy! hey my pm-hibernate turns off the display and stops the disk for about 1 second, then everything returns to normal.  i've changed the partition of my linux-swap since installation which i think is causing the problem. how can i reconfigure ubuntu to look at the correct swap partition?
[20:59] <OrokuSaki> as root from console
[20:59] <safri4> My desktop  stuck, so I clicked Ctl+Alt+F2 to open a second user terminal.  I then restarted lightdm, but I couldn't successfully log in, and I still can't even after reboot. What's wrong?
[21:00] <bekks> safri4: Check free disk space using "df -h" and "df -i"
[21:00] <OrokuSaki> even stranger I am trying to run Xmir in Ubuntu Touch. =)
[21:00] <OrokuSaki> "[  2929.179] (EE) Failed to connect to Mir: connect: No such file or directory"
[21:01] <OrokuSaki> Xorg -mir 0
[21:01] <OrokuSaki> ?
[21:01] <safri4> bekks: I have enough free space..
[21:01] <Zooklubba> find_device_support_ready(): Couldn't create modem for device at '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-9': Failed to find primary AT port :(
[21:03] <safri4> bekks: What can I do to debug it?
[21:03] <bekks> safri4: Check the logs
[21:03] <safri4> where are they?
[21:04] <safri4>  /var/log/
[21:04] <safri4> that one? /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:04] <John_John_> is anybody here who has actually setup mono in linux with asp.net (apache) support ?
[21:05] <schnitzl> hi guys. i need a pdf tool to highlight text as simpel as possible. just highlighting, and maybe for orientation a sidebar with a preview of the pages or an index overview or something....any suggestions?
[21:06] <suraj> Hi Guys! is anyone here with whois experience and its request limitation details? :)
[21:08] <safri4> Does lightdm load before the log in screen opens?
[21:09] <she_dyed> it runs that login
[21:15] <zaxor0> how do you format a folder that has spaces in it in fstab? I am trying to add my "Google Drive" folder on a networked computer and don't know how to format the space correctly, e.g. Google\ Drive
[21:16] <geirha> zaxor0: spaces have to be written as \040 (as is explained in man fstab)
[21:16] <xreal> Anyone ever used fuseloop? Can't get it to work...
[21:16] <zaxor0> geirha, thanks ill look into that!
[21:17] <sleezio> hello..can someone answer this? i just removed zeitgeist, then tried to run software center, it won't load because it says it can't find: "ImportError: No module named zeitgeist_logger" but when i run "apt-cache depends software-center" it doesn't list zeitgeist as a dependency
[21:18] <zaxor0> gierha, that worked. thanks a low!
[21:18] <Jordan_U> xreal: Why do you want to use fuseloop over losetup/kpartx?
[21:18] <zaxor0> alot*
[21:18] <zaxor0> a lto**
[21:18] <zaxor0> a lot***
[21:18] <xreal> jordan: I'm in a OpenVZ containner and cannot use /dev/loop
[21:19] <xreal> jordan: fuse-ext2 works, but fuseloop seems to be advanced
[21:19] <threesome> In /etc/login.defs I have 'UMASK 022' but when I do 'umask' for my non-root user I get 002. When I do 'sudo su' then 'umask' I get 0022. Why this difference? And how do I get Ubuntu to use 022 for my non-root user? (Using Ubuntu 13.10)
[21:20] <Moondance> Can anyone tell me about their experiences with 13.10 and Cinnamon? I'm just wonder if it's definitely stable enough for general usage or if I shouldn't bother.
[21:20] <xreal> Jordan_U: this was for you :)
[21:20] <xreal> Jordan_U: Could not find any loop device, and, according to /proc/devices, this kernel does not know about the loop device. => I'm in a OpenVZ containner and cannot use /dev/loop
[21:21] <Jordan_U> xreal: What is your end goal?
[21:21] <xreal> Jordan_U: writing in a filesystem in a file.
[21:21] <jpbacilio> Hi! This is Jean Pierre from Peru
[21:21] <xreal> Jordan_U: fuse-ext2 works, but fuseloop seems to be advanced
[21:22] <jpbacilio> is there someone who speaks spanish?
[21:22] <Jordan_U> xreal: mkfs.ext4 works directly on files, no loop device needed.
[21:22] <xreal> Jordan_U: but how do I mount it?
[21:22] <Jordan_U> !es | jpbacilio
[21:23] <Jordan_U> xreal: Ahh, I misread "writing in a filesystem" as "writing a filesystem".
[21:23] <jpbacilio> thanks ubottu
[21:23] <jpbacilio> so, I need your help
[21:23] <xreal> Jordan_U: yep :)
[21:24] <safri4> I still can't log in. I saw in the lightdm log file this:  "Can't launch X server Xephyr not found in path"
[21:24] <perhaps6900> Hello
[21:24] <jpbacilio> I received this message (error: Broken count)
[21:24] <jpbacilio> and Im not able to install any application
[21:24] <perhaps6900> What is the point of the encrypted home folder in ubuntu if I can just browse to it by entering the user's password?
[21:25] <safri4> perhaps6900: people who don't have it can't
[21:25] <Jordan_U> perhaps6900: Because you need to know the users' passsword to access it, especially if the (say laptop) is obtained when not booted.
[21:26] <hsnmck> Hi, I'm using lubuntu 13.04, my computer keeps on suddenly shutting down when I it's doing a lot of caluclation (eg. compling a big program, or doing complex calculations with matlab). any idea how can I detect what the problem is and how to fix it?
[21:26] <gordonjcp> hsnmck: smells overheatingy
[21:26] <safri4> hsnmck: run sensors
[21:27] <perhaps6900> Sure but the user password is one thing, Jordan_U, and the encrypted passphrase is something else entirely. I encrypted the home folder apparently and now have  a passphrase that looks compliczated but when I browse to the home directory I'm not asked for the passphrase
[21:27] <gordonjcp> hsnmck: clean the crud out of the cooling fans
[21:27] <chemist^> hsnmck, probably overheating the CPU
[21:27] <chemist^> hsnmck, if you are using a laptop, make sure it can breath through it's breathing holes on the bottom (not having it on a bed for example)
[21:28] <hsnmck> chemist^, it can breath!
[21:28] <chemist^> hsnmck, what about accumulated dust?
[21:28] <she_dyed> breath with an e
[21:28] <chemist^> breathe* sorry
[21:28] <she_dyed> rhymes with breed
[21:29] <xreal> Jordan_U: any idea?
[21:29] <perhaps6900> Jordan_U: Hmm. Do you mean that the contents of the home directory can't be extracted by using the hard drive as a secondary drive because the encryption means it can only be used as a primary OS?
[21:29] <hsnmck> safri4, how can sensors help me fix that problem?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> perhaps6900: No, because the directory is automatically "unlocked" when you log in. If you log out of this user, and log in as a different user, you will only see the encrypted files (and a message telling you how to access them).
[21:29] <safri4> hsnmck: they'll tell you how hot your cpu is
[21:29] <hsnmck> chemist^, I can't see dust
[21:30] <Jordan_U> perhaps6900: No, that is not at all what I mean.
[21:30] <chemist^> hsnmck, you will have to open up your computer box in order to see that....
[21:30] <perhaps6900> Jordan_U: so each new user on the ubuntu OS has to encrypt their own home folders, correct?
[21:30] <Jordan_U> perhaps6900: Correct.
[21:31] <hsnmck> chemist^, ok thanks, I'l try to open it then and use sensors
[21:31] <chemist^> correct?
[21:31] <chemist^> He doesn't need to encrypt it if he doesn't want to :P
[21:31] <gordonjcp> hsnmck: just start by giving the cooling fans and heatsinks a clean
[21:31] <chemist^> hsnmck, just clean the thing for good ... in any case
[21:32] <Xuisce1> hm
[21:32] <Xuisce1> hi
[21:32] <hsnmck> chemist^, sure thanks
[21:32] <perhaps6900> Jordan_U: However even if that's not what you mean, it can also happen. I mean, someone can plug in the hard drive containing the Ubuntu OS into their own desktop, use this hard drive as another drive and peek easily into the home folder if it isn't encrypted correct? Or can they also find the encryption passphrase with the same ease?
[21:32] <glitsj16> safri4: odd that lightdm tries to look for xserver-xephyr, iirc it isn't a dependency of lightdm (it is of gdm, mdm) .. do you use gdm or mdm?
[21:32]  * gordonjcp removed what was not so much dust bunnies as dust capybaras from a PC at work
[21:32] <ses1984> i'm trying to install 10.04 to get an old application to work on an old PC. if i use startup disk creator to make a USB key of it, and try to boot, i get an error 'unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot; vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image'
[21:32] <ses1984> if i try to boot a virtual machine with the same ISO it works fine
[21:32] <gordonjcp> perhaps6900: if the homedir is encrypted, you'd need the passphrase to read it at all
[21:33] <safri4> i only saw lightdm in /init.d/ and i restarted lightdm .  i'm running two screens
[21:33] <gordonjcp> perhaps6900: they're fine if you don't care about speed
[21:33] <Jordan_U> perhaps6900: The unencrypted view of the directory is mounted over /home/you/. I highly recommend that you try logging out and logging in as another user, or viewing your home directory from a LiveCD to get a better idea of how this works.
[21:33] <glitsj16> safri4: have you tried installing xserver-xephyr yet?
[21:35] <TJ-> Jordan_U: perhaps6900 Or the neat way: "sudo mkdir /target && mount --bind / /target && ls -al /target/home/$USER/ && sudo umount /target"
[21:35] <sk1special> if your home drive is encrypted Are your files viewable without the pw/passphrase if put in a different box as a secondary?
[21:35] <safri4> glitsj16: why? everything worked fine until an hour ago when my pointer stuck when dragging a file in nautilus (as it does one in a while) but this time restartnig x locked me out
[21:35] <Jordan_U> TJ-: I don't think perhaps6900 would understand what they were seeing in that case, but yes.
[21:35] <TJ-> Jordan_U: true :)
[21:36] <glitsj16> safri4: i don't know why, but according to what you see in the lightdm log it is looking for it
[21:36] <Jordan_U> ses1984: 1: 10.04 is no longer supported on the Desktop. Supported versions of Ubuntu will work on old hardware and your old software can probably be made to work on the new Ubuntu (if nothing else, in a chroot) 2: Booting from the iso directly is not the same as using a tool to make a bootable USB from said iso.
[21:36] <Zooklubba> right, shooting in the dark again. My USB 4G/LTE/GSM modem wont work (I can see it using lsusb but it wont connect as a mobile broadband in nm-applet. It has switched to the correct product/vendor ID). Debug logs in modem manager seems to point towards find_device_support_ready(): Couldn't create modem for device at '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-9': Failed to find primary AT port
[21:37] <Zooklubba> http://pastebin.com/8mEj05mK pastebin
[21:37] <TJ-> sk1special: Encrypted homes are stored under /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private/ - each file has it's own encrypted version
[21:37] <Zooklubba> Huawei E5776S-32
[21:37] <safri4> I also see in another lightdm log: Warninig: getting layout failed: GDBus.Error: Org.freedesktop.dbus.error.unknownmethod: no such interface com.canonical dbusmenu on object at path /com
[21:38] <TJ-> Zooklubba: Did you get any progress with that 14.04 test that has modem-manager 1.0 ?
[21:38] <Zooklubba> Nope :(
[21:38] <Zooklubba> That's the output
[21:38] <Zooklubba> from syslog
[21:38] <antonio__> hi
[21:38] <TJ-> Zooklubba: I've not found anything obvious in the code, so far.
[21:39] <ses1984> Jordan_U: i'm not talking about desktop versions. i'm aware that there's a difference between the usb key produced by the startup disk tool and the iso...doesn't this mean there's some kind of bug in the startup disk creator?
[21:39] <xreal> Anyone ever tried fusemount or sthg like that?
[21:39] <Zooklubba> Im kind of guessing no drivers from huawei TJ- :/
[21:40] <safri4> And second result in google for that error is about a failure to set a second screen
[21:40] <ses1984> Jordan_U: i've never really used chroot so i don't know how it would work exactly if the old software i'm trying to run depends on a lot of stuff in 10.04 in a very brittle way, e.g. the specific versions of apache, mysql, php, maybe some other packages
[21:40] <TJ-> Zooklubba: It shouldn't need them, if wwan0 is up, I am wondering if modem-manager is red-herring since there's an ethernet wwan0 port, and we maybe just need to *teach* NetworkManager to recognise the device so it presents it in the Create Connection dialog?
[21:40] <BigDick21> hello
[21:41] <safri4> so how can i turn off the second screen?
[21:41] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I'm looking for surveillance cameras compatible with Ubuntu - I'm overwhelmed by there being so many cameras and me knowing so little. Anyone run zoneminder on ubuntu who can reco hardware? thanks.
[21:41] <gmachine_24> !ask
[21:42] <ses1984> i used unetbootin to create the usb key instead of startup disk creator and it's working fine
[21:42] <DreadKnight> anyone knowing an app that allows you to add non overlapping watermarks that would scale to full width and be placed bellow the image? want some batch processing
[21:42] <TJ-> Zooklubba: let me check out how that works, see if we can add something to NM's configuration
[21:42] <Xuisce1> :hi
[21:42] <ses1984> nope...nevermind. not working, it broke halfway through
[21:42] <BigDick21> hi
[21:42] <she_dyed> ImageMagick+ has sample code online
[21:43] <she_dyed> watermarking with script
[21:43] <Zooklubba> right TJ-. Im just lost. A blind man walking in complete darkness. No idea how much I appreciate your help
[21:43] <BigDick21> Now devs of ubuntu can get games of valve for free nice
[21:44] <BigDick21> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pl76R8u4mg
[21:46] <gmachine_24> ignore BigDick21
[21:46] <gmachine_24> sorry. forgot the /
[21:46] <BigDick21> why ignore?
[21:47] <TJ-> Zooklubba: well, there's 2 kinds of connections for modems, the traditional serial RS232 port, the pseudo-serial port presented by USB, and those that present a 'proper' ethernet network interface. The cellular modem USB-stick makers have been switching to ethernet devices recently, and I think because your device is newish Network Manager doesn't know about it as yet.
[21:47] <alice3> BONSOIR
[21:47] <Zooklubba> ah
[21:47] <alice3> QI ETES VOUS
[21:48] <gmachine_24> what is the french channel for alice3 please
[21:48] <saiarcot895> !fr | alice3
[21:48] <gmachine_24> ty
[21:49] <perhaps6900> Where is the users and groups tab in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> ses1984: Startup Disk creator uses syslinux, and syslinux doesn't maintain backwards compatability with older syslinux configuration files so the version of syslinux used in the OS you made the USB from is not compatible with the configuration from the iso.
[21:50] <alice3> BONJOURµ
[21:50] <yepitsme_> LxdeQT or Unity Next. What better?
[21:53] <TJ-> Zooklubba: Can you do some tests for me?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> ses1984: My recommendation of using a chroot was to decrease the attack surface by only using old packages only for the dependencies of the specific app (on the assumption that you will be using this app past the EOL of 10.04), but it sounds like that won't decrease the attack surface much in this case.
[21:53] <Zooklubba> sure TJ-
[21:53] <Gnar> where do i find the latest distro of ubuntu minimal?
[21:53] <Zooklubba> But I might need some guidance
[21:53] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Gnar
[21:53] <TJ-> Zooklubba: "nm-tool | grep -A8 wwan"
[21:54] <TJ-> Zooklubba: if there is output, pastebinit
[21:54] <ses1984> Jordan_U: so if it's not a bug, isn't it some kind of defect that there is no warning about this apparent to the user? Or that ubuntu 10.04 server is supposed to be supported for another year but the startup disk tool bundled with current versions of ubuntu don't support it?
[21:54] <Bray90820> is the default ssh client in ubuntu open ssg?
[21:54] <Bray90820> open ssh
[21:54] <Jordan_U> ses1984: Indeed, I would call that a bug, and if it hasn't been reported yet you should file one.
[21:55] <ses1984> Jordan_U: i very much appreciate your help. thanks very much
[21:55] <Jordan_U> ses1984: You're welcome.
[21:56] <Zooklubba> TJ-: nothing
[21:56] <Gnar> hmm no 14.04 minimal
[21:56] <Gnar> and cant install from usb stick
[21:56] <TJ-> Zooklubba: the device is plugged in and showing the expected ID according to "lsusb" ?
[21:56] <Zooklubba> yes
[21:56] <Baribal> Hi. I just noticed that I'm not using AMDs GFX drivers, and the software... thingie is giving me a choice between fglrx and fglrx-updates. Which one should I choose, and why?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> ses1984: You can try some of the suggestions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/120295/cannot-boot-ubuntu-10-04-from-usb
[21:58] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK: "sudo tail -fn 0 /var/log/kern.log | tee /tmp/modem.log" then unplug and replug the device. Once all the log messages stop press Ctrl+C and then "pastebinit /tmp/modem.log"
[21:58] <glitsj16> perhaps6900: the 'Users and Groups' setting is part of the gnome-system-tools package and is not the same as 'User Accounts' tab from gnome-control-center (which you should see in System Settings) .. what exactly are you looking for?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Gnar: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[21:59] <ses1984> Jordan_U: wow thanks that did actually help. most posts on the topic i read suggested typing live which didn't work, i guess because i was installing the server version which doesn't have a live option
[22:00] <ses1984> but pressing tab did show a list of things that i was able to try and there was an option listed 'install' that's working so far
[22:00] <ses1984> seems obvious that i should have tried that before, but usually when you're in really thin pre-boot environments, tab completion isn't available
[22:00] <Zooklubba> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/y0JSRfXh
[22:01] <TJ-> Zooklubba: now try again: "nm-tool | grep -A8 wan"
[22:02] <xreal> Anyone ever tried fusemount or sthg like that?
[22:02] <Zooklubba> still nothing TJ-
[22:02] <Dbugger> Hello guys. I just ran "sudo apt-get purge nginx" but the configuration files are still in /etc/nginx. Did I miss a step?
[22:03] <TJ-> Zooklubba: how about "ifconfig wwan0" ?
[22:04] <Zooklubba> it's there
[22:04] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, that's good :) The wwan0 device is created by the kernel's drivers/net/usb/huawei_cdc_ncm driver
[22:05] <Zooklubba> oh cool
[22:07] <Sargun> Who do I talk to about questions with Ubuntu mirrors?
[22:08] <daftykins> Sargun: the channel
[22:08] <Sargun> How do I get / ask for bucket listing to be enabled on the Public S3 mirrors?
[22:08] <she_dyed> its those folks ovr there
[22:08] <Jordan_U> ses1984: You're welcome.
[22:09] <oem> ping SephirothTP
[22:09] <saturn_usa> exit
[22:10] <TJ-> Zooklubba: When you were trying Janis' scripts, what ISP name were using?
[22:10] <Zooklubba> Netcom afaik
[22:11] <perhaps6900> Jordan_U: What did you mean by users not seeing other people's home folders if they're encrypted? I just created a new user in ubuntu and its home folder is completely isolated, in the GUI, from the other user's GUI.
[22:11] <Zooklubba> I edited it
[22:11] <nanuko> so, let me ask.  has anyone ever gotten wireless to work?
[22:11] <TJ-> Zooklubba: what's the exact APN you used?
[22:11] <bekks> !anyone | nanuko
[22:11] <Zooklubba> internet.netcom.no
[22:12] <Jordan_U> perhaps6900: First, did you log out of the user whose home directory is encrypted?
[22:12] <Baribal> "Derezzed: Verb; Unexpected ejaculation which occurs as a result of musical perfection travelling through the airwaves and into a﻿ persons brain."
[22:12] <nanuko> i have a dell vostro 1500 and i've tried installing the third party drivers to get the wireless to work
[22:13] <nanuko> but it just mucks up all networking
[22:13] <Jordan_U> Baribal: I think you posted to the wrong channel. Please don't post such things in #ubuntu again.
[22:13] <Baribal> .. Sorry. Wrong channel indeed.
[22:18] <antonio__> hey, here dont have channel of java?
[22:18] <antonio__> or c#?
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | antonio__
[22:18] <antonio__> fuck bot
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> !language | antonio__
[22:19] <Gnar> can somebody just tell me where to download the install iso for trusty tahrir
[22:19] <Gnar> nobody is in that other channel
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Gnar: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[22:20] <Gnar> cool
[22:20] <Gnar> should i use the daily or the alpha2?
[22:21] <ikonia> Gnar: if you have to ask - neither
[22:21] <hewhomust> lol
[22:21] <Gnar> well 13.10 wouldnt work with xbmc
[22:21] <ikonia> pretty sure it will
[22:21] <Gnar> nah
[22:21] <ikonia> yeah
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> Gnar: why would it not, what was going wrong?
[22:22] <TJ-> Zooklubba: a bit more info for you, just so you know. The APNs are in the package mobile-broadband-provider-info and the actual file is /usr/share/mobile-broadband-provider-info/serviceproviders.xml
[22:23] <Gnar> i dunno. just a huge clusterfuck
[22:23] <ikonia> no need for bad language
[22:23] <ikonia> many people appear to be using xmbc with 13.10
[22:23] <ikonia> so I suggest using a stable ubuntu version - and before installing walk through the process and then any problems with people in the channel
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> Gnar: xbmc is pretty straight forward these days. What gpu do you have?
[22:24] <Gnar> i have the new intel nuc with integrated hd
[22:24] <Gnar> intel bay trail nuc
[22:24] <ikonia> I have no idea what you just said
[22:24] <Gnar> noob
[22:24] <ikonia> errr no
[22:24] <hewhomust> yeah not really a good way of getting help
[22:25] <Gnar> lol
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> Gnar: when you started xbmc what exactly happened?
[22:25] <ikonia> I'm not laughing
[22:25] <Gnar> it didnt start
[22:25] <Gnar> wouldnt even install
[22:25] <Gnar> they screwed up the saucy build
[22:25] <hewhomust> dont insult the people who are trying to help you rule number 1 of human communication
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> Gnar: how exactly were you trying to install it?
[22:25] <ikonia> who did ?
[22:26] <Gnar> some jackass i dunno
[22:26] <ikonia> ok, this is pathetic
[22:26] <ikonia> you don't seem to be able to actually communicate what you are saying and just bad mouth people with no idea wha tyou are saying
[22:26] <ikonia> I suggest you stop asking for help - compose yourself and your problem, and come back with a clear definition of the problem
[22:27] <Zooklubba> ah k TJ-. I can see internet.netcom.no in there. yay I guess
[22:27] <Gnar> ikonia i suggest you remove the stick from your ass
[22:27] <Gnar> ligthen up dude
[22:28] <ikonia> Gnar: people are tyring to help you, and you are wasting time with just random information that may/may not be true
[22:28] <hewhomust> Gnar: no ones gonna help you if you keep on insulting them
[22:28] <Gnar> this information came from the devs in #xbmc
[22:28] <ikonia> Gnar: it's just not acceptable, then you are rude to people, so PLEASE, stop, take a moment, get the information together, and then ask again
[22:30] <TJ-> Zooklubba: I'm working through the source-code, trying to figure out why network-manager isn't picking up that wwan interface
[22:30] <piglit> how can i check the resolutions my videocard supports ?
[22:30] <Zooklubba> roger
[22:30] <TJ-> piglit: "xrandr -q"
[22:31] <tonyt> google would probly be able to tell you piglit
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> !google | tonyt
[22:31] <jirido> Results for | tonyt on Google:
[22:31] <jirido> --
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: can you please disable that script
[22:32] <TJ-> Zooklubba: daft question maybe, but you've not created a manual node for wwan0 have you? "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces"
[22:33] <Zooklubba> TJ-: Im not sure what I screwed around with honestly. What do you want the pastebin of?
[22:33] <TJ-> Zooklubba: issue that command in the double-quotes
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> piglit: some monitors don't correctly report the supported resolutions to xorg, in such cases you can add them https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[22:34] <TJ-> Zooklubba: The thing is, the system has the wwan0 interface but NM doesn't manage it. Usually that is caused because there's an entry in 'interfaces' for the interface, so NM assumes you're managing it
[22:34] <neredsenvy> I used Unetbin to make my USB stick bootable with Ubuntu 13 however when I select to boot from it I get grub rescue
 I want to know what the videocard can do with a other monitor than i have now
[22:35] <Zooklubba> TJ-: It might have been me. Im not sure (leaning towards it was probably me). Cant install pastebininit right now
[22:35] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, just copy that file to a pastebin
[22:35] <TJ-> Zooklubba: I need to know if there is a stanza for "iface wwan...."
[22:36] <Zooklubba> TJ- auto lo newline iface lo inet loopback
[22:36] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, that's correct. Shame - would have been an easy fix!
[22:39] <Baribal> I just switched to the proprietary fglrx driver (and then back again). I've got a dual monitor setup (notebook + external monitor), and as far as I could see, fglrx doesn't support that, due to a maximum resolution of 1366x1366. Is that correct/reproducable/known?
[22:39] <TJ-> Zooklubba: and just to be triple-sure, NM has "mobile broadband" enabled ?
[22:39] <Baribal> Also, is the situation better with Nvidia cards?
[22:40] <she_dyed> whats the resolution on one screen
[22:40] <Baribal> 1024x768 and 1366x768
[22:40] <she_dyed> you can probably figure out a workable rez for each
[22:40] <Zooklubba> TJ- how can I see that? I mean, the applet doesnt say anything like that. and trying to add a new one (mobile broadband) it doesnt recongnize the device
[22:41] <she_dyed> Baribal if xrandr can set it up, they the driver will be able to do th same
[22:42] <she_dyed> then^
[22:42] <she_dyed> probably use the GUI arandr or grandr
[22:42] <TJ-> Zooklubba: In the nm-applet's context menu, towards the bottom, is an "Enable Mobile Broadband" which you select and it should show ticked, its with the "Enable Networking" and "Enable Wireless" I think
[22:43] <Zooklubba> TJ-: It only has enabled networking checked
[22:43] <Zooklubba> (computer doesnt have a wifi card)
[22:43] <TJ-> Zooklubba: here's what I'm referring to: http://i.stack.imgur.com/5WoIw.png
[22:44] <TJ-> Zooklubba:  so you don't see the "Enable Mobile Broadband" ?
[22:44] <Zooklubba> TJ- that context menu (enable mobile broadband) has only been visible when I had one active usb modem device
[22:44] <Zooklubba> No, I dont see it
[22:44] <TJ-> Zooklubba: OK, that's helpful. Narrows down where I need to look in the source code alot :)
[22:44] <Zooklubba> ah k
[22:45] <chemist^> good night everyone
[22:45] <Dice-Man> hi people
[22:45] <Dice-Man> i have a problem with my software updater
[22:45] <Zooklubba> TJ-: earlier with another modem all those context menus regarding mobile that you have, were only visible if one device was attached
[22:45] <Dice-Man> it crashes
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> Dice-Man: which app specifically?
[22:46] <Baribal> she_dyed, I assume that this is neither? http://imagebin.org/292828
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> Dice-Man: update-manager?
[22:46] <Dice-Man> yes
[22:47] <Busybyeski> HA! i just found where they hid workspaces. productivity meet your maker.
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> Dice-Man: can you run it from the terminal, run: update-manager       it should dump a trace when it crashes
[22:48] <she_dyed> no you may have to apt-get grandr or arandr
[22:48] <TJ-> Zooklubba: can you pastebin the output of this command? It's pretty vital. "lsusb -v -d 12d1:1506"
[22:48] <Dice-Man> hitsujiTMO: ok i'm doing that now
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> Dice-Man: can you pastebin the full output of what gets dumped
[22:48] <Baribal> Okay, thanks, she_dyed.
[22:49] <she_dyed> yw Baribal
[22:50] <Baribal> Anybody know how Nvidias driver support is for multiple-monitor setups?
[22:50] <Zooklubba> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/YJ4a2QFc
[22:50] <she_dyed> mirror displays probably if you're making presentations on a projector
[22:51] <she_dyed> thay are good with  duals even more but yit can get tricky
[22:52] <she_dyed> it^
[22:52] <she_dyed> if you're familiar with xorg.conf fu
[22:53] <she_dyed> like i told this goy copy the stanza from the 2nd and get a third display going
[22:53] <she_dyed> guy*
[22:54] <she_dyed> his head probably exploded
[22:54] <she_dyed> i think he got 2 out of 3 going
[22:55] <she_dyed> pity
[22:56] <she_dyed> nvidia provides a GUI mockup for layout too
[23:00] <banzai> Is the oibaf ppa safe to use on a 12.04-based distro?
[23:01] <k1l> !ppa | banzai
[23:02] <k1l> mind the "unsupported " and "third party" bit
[23:03] <banzai> Hmm alright k1l. However, do you know if there's a way to safely downgrade if anything goes wrong?
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | banzai
[23:03] <k1l> use ppa-purge to get rid of the ppa and the ppa packages
[23:04] <Keres> does ubuntu support new touch screen laptops?
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> banzai: mind you, ppa-purge isn't 100% perfect either when it comes to configurations
[23:04] <Gnar> wtf i got banned from #ubuntu+1?
[23:04] <Gnar> lol
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> Keres: yes. but application support is minimal
[23:05] <k1l> Keres: i would say: in general, yes
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> !language | gnar
[23:05] <Gnar> i didnt use the f word
[23:05] <banzai> Alright, I think I'll give it a try. Thank you hitsujiTMO and k1l !
[23:05] <Keres> why do laptops need touch screens now?
[23:05] <Keres> what software uses it? multitouch?
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> Gnar: #ubuntu-ops if you have an issue with the ban
[23:05] <k1l> Keres: that is not in ubuntus decision :)
[23:06] <Keres> so basically it would be the mouse
[23:06] <Keres> right?
[23:06] <she_dyed> oh if you happened to ge the Win8 touch/tablet
[23:06] <k1l> Keres: yes
[23:06] <Keres> what laptop would you recommend ?
[23:06] <Keres> something cheap
[23:06] <Keres> with a video out
[23:06] <k1l> Keres: most desktops are not really made ready yet to get used by touchscreen. that is mostly a work in progress. dont expect too much
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> Keres: in general yes. Linux apps seem to be slow at the touch screen uptake unfortunately
[23:07] <she_dyed> esp. becuase they'd need wider scrollbars, largeish buttons,etc
[23:07] <k1l> she_dyed: just think about "right mouse click"
[23:07] <she_dyed> yikes!
[23:07] <Keres> is there a cheap laptop that you can recommend ?
[23:08] <she_dyed> i'd get another X412, got a stylus
[23:08] <she_dyed> x41*
[23:09] <Keres> ok thanks
[23:09] <she_dyed> but the next gens have better graphics , not intel
[23:12] <Mega1> how do i increase the size of the drive
[23:13] <Ben64> Mega1: need more information
[23:14] <Mega1> my drive was cloned from a 30gb drive to a 80gb drive
[23:15] <Mega1> want to expand to use up the rest
[23:15] <wonderworld> Mega1: you can resize partitions with gparted
[23:15] <k1l> Mega1:  just open gparted and expand the partition to the whole drive
[23:16] <Arcanis_> Hello. I installes nvidia-prime and now I can't boot all the way. I can get into recovery mode. How do I remove the package and uninstall it from recovery via root? Ubuntu 13.10
[23:17] <she_dyed> uninstall?
[23:17] <Mega1> i got gtk-warning **: cannot open display
[23:17] <she_dyed> sounds like its not yet 100% done
[23:17] <she_dyed> you got to make it spit out an xorg.conf
[23:18] <she_dyed> do it as sudo/root
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> Arcanis_: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-prime && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:18] <she_dyed> tweak it to get what, 2 screens going
[23:18] <she_dyed> you give up so easily
[23:19] <k1l> Mega1: what ubuntu excactly? what program? what command?
[23:20] <Arcanis_> unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ also im on a phone. so im slow to respond.
[23:21] <she_dyed> ubuntu probably has a wiki page for guys with nvidia HW
[23:22] <ikonia> !nvidia
[23:22] <Mega1> i am useing 12.04.1 lts
[23:22] <Mega1> serveerr
[23:22] <she_dyed> in one place
[23:22] <ikonia> ughhh why are you doing this on a server
[23:22] <she_dyed> nice, thanks ikonia
[23:22] <ikonia> why not just install the desktop - that has all the X11 stuff setup already
[23:22] <Mega1> i am useing putty to login
[23:22] <ikonia> so ?
[23:22] <ikonia> you still want X11 - so why not just install the desktop version, it's already done, working and setup for you
[23:23] <ikonia> you can still login to the desktop with putty
[23:23] <k1l> Mega1: of course that is not a unimportant info.
[23:23] <k1l> so cou need a cli tool to extend then partition
[23:23] <Mega1> hd is full
[23:23] <ikonia> you're doing this just to extend a partition ?
[23:24] <Mega1> need to do a update and the hd is full
[23:25] <ikonia> so either a.) use parted to re-size the disk or b.) even better, boot from a livecd and re-size the partition
[23:25] <ikonia> why are you messing around trying to setup X
[23:25] <ikonia> more so if your disk is full
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> Mega1: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l && du -h
[23:25] <k1l> ikonia: we suggested to use gparted not knowing he was on server
[23:25] <she_dyed> lordy backaswards
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> k1l: he'd still need to use gparted from a live cd, not the installed system
[23:26] <ikonia> so perhaps he should say "I don't have X11 - I'm on a server" rather than trying to install things to a full disk
[23:26] <Cyrus_Virus> Snap dizzle my nizzle
[23:26] <ikonia> Cyrus_Virus: no need for pointless comments
[23:26] <Cyrus_Virus> Yes sir
[23:26] <ikonia> thanks
[23:26] <k1l> hitsujiTMO: right. i am even more confused right now what the setup there is
[23:27] <tophyr> JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/ java -version           -----> java version "1.6.0_27".... 0_o
[23:27] <ikonia> java_home is not the path to the binary
[23:28] <Mega1> login as: gordon
[23:28] <Mega1> gordon@nightserver.no-ip.info's password:
[23:28] <Mega1> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-35-generic-pae i686)
[23:28] <Mega1>  * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[23:28] <Mega1>   System information as of Tue Feb 11 23:21:28 GMT 2014
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> tophyr: ls -l `which java`
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> !paste | mega1
[23:28] <Mega1> sorry
[23:28] <T1960CT> Hey hitsujiTMO
[23:29] <tophyr> ikonia hitsujiTMO aside from re-linking that.. is there a way to make 'java' point to the correct one, on demand? i don't want to change java versions for the entire system (or even for my entire session), i just want to run a particular command on openjdk7 instead of sunjdk 6
[23:30] <ikonia> tophyr: set JAVA_HOME correctly, or call the correct java binary
[23:30] <ikonia> tophyr: it's that simple and it's specific to your session
[23:30] <tophyr> was i not setting the home correctly in the above?
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> tophyr: check the update alternatives bit from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[23:30] <ikonia> that is system wide
[23:30] <ikonia> which he's just said he didn't want to do
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: ahh, missed that bit. woops
[23:32] <lickalott> gents, trying to connect to a samba shared printer off of a windows computer (printer is connected via usb).  I can see it and connect to it but when i try to print it tells me that it's "holding for authentication".  It also says Idle - Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED).  I've ensured that it's shared out.  i even went as far as to make an account just for me on the windows box.  Anyone got any advice/assistance for me?
[23:32] <daftykins> lickalott: shared out via what permissions?
[23:33] <ikonia> lickalott: I suspect it's going to be the nt account/group's permissions don't allow you to connect/send to the printer
[23:33] <tophyr> yeah, the machine i'm working on needs specifically the oracle jdk for what its job is.. i'm trying to just get a side project completed on it, and that proj reqs openjdk-7
[23:33] <lickalott> i have everything checked for me daftykins
[23:33] <duhj> Could someone help me get grub to recognize windows 8.1 on a second hard drive from the drive I am using ubuntu from.
[23:33] <daftykins> lickalott: what do you mean?
[23:33] <daftykins> oh as in permissions, right
[23:34] <lickalott> printing, manage print jobs, manage printer etc...
[23:34] <lickalott> ikonia, how do I change that?  gpedit?
[23:34] <Dark_Arcana> hitsujiTMO, This is Arcanis_
[23:34] <ikonia> lickalott: you'd need someone who' on top of windows permissions
[23:34] <lickalott> it works fine from windows btw.  I simply type \\IPaddress then connect to the printer
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> duhj: whats the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep grub
[23:35] <Dark_Arcana> hitsujiTMO, I was able to fix the problem. I installed root-system-bin
[23:35] <lickalott> my account is an admin account
[23:35] <Dark_Arcana> hitsujiTMO, then I could remove nvidia-prime and it booted fine. Thanks for the help.
[23:35] <lickalott> printers are my kryptonite
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Dark_Arcana
[23:35] <tophyr> ikonia: was i not setting the java_home correctly above? or will that java_home method simply not work in ubuntu? i'm not running java directly, so passing -jamvm won't work either.
[23:35] <Dark_Arcana> Yay :D
[23:35] <Dark_Arcana> Everyone in here have a good one! Back to learning more about how linux works. I'm trying to get rid of Windows... this is so much better.
[23:36] <tophyr> perhaps i made this up but i was under the impression that 'JAVA_HOME=<wherever> <some_command>' would run <some_command> and all its children in whichever JDK was directly specified.
[23:37] <daftykins> lickalott: under the actual windows printer share, did you explicitly add your user under security? on the ubuntu system, did you install samba and create a password for your user the same as on the windows system via smbpasswd?
[23:38] <duhj> hitsujiTMO: grub-common					install
[23:38] <duhj> grub-efi-amd64					install
[23:38] <duhj> grub-efi-amd64-bin				install
[23:38] <duhj> grub-efi-amd64-signed				install
[23:38] <duhj> grub2-common					install
[23:38] <Guest80941> help add or change from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[23:38] <TJ-> Zooklubba: Are you still about?
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> duhj: can you pastebin the output of: os-prober
[23:40] <ikonia> tophyr: java_home is just a variable
[23:40] <Beldar> nineball, You can have bothe desktops installed.
[23:40] <Beldar> both*
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> duhj: sorry, that should be: sudo os-prober
[23:42] <nineball> no
[23:42] <funky> hey folks, whats the easy way to enable remove desktop in ubuntu via CLI?
[23:43] <nineball> just upgrade to 12.4 do not like the set up
[23:43] <nineball> from an old 9.10
[23:44] <Beldar> !details | nineball all in one post
[23:45] <nineball> ok sorry need help installing from ubuntu to xubuntu
[23:45] <duhj> hitsujiTMO: I am getting no output from sudo os-prober
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> duhj: ok then. can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l                                   and please use paste.ubuntu.com
[23:46] <nineball> found it in ubuntu software center sorry and thanks
[23:47] <nineball> do i need to restart computer ?
[23:48] <k1l> nineball: just log out
[23:48] <k1l> and then choose xubuntu on the login screen
[23:48] <nineball> thank you k11
[23:49] <phuh> nineball: you're very welcome
[23:49] <nineball> how do i run a windows only program that is free?
[23:50] <k1l> !wine | nineball
[23:50] <duhj> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu pastebin doesn't seem to be working but here:http://pastebin.com/vFGVgPq9
[23:50] <Mega1> the paste.ubuntu.com is not working for me
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> duhj: your windows is installed as a bios/legacy install, where you've installed ubuntu in uefi mode. this is why ubuntu can't see windows. you need to install them both as uefi, or both as bias/legacy
[23:52] <Mega1> the first line is /dev/mapper/Techno-root  33281840 12006372  19584844  39% /
[23:52] <Mega1> second is udev                      1021228        4   1021224   1% /dev
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> Mega1: use pastebin.com or another  alternative then
[23:53] <nineball> k11 thanks
[23:53] <Mega1> past bin not working
[23:54] <duhj> hitsujiTMO: Thankyou. WAsn't even aware that was a thing. I don't remember having any options of installing UEFI when i installed windows what would that look like?
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> duhj: did you install windows from usb? you prob had the usb formatted as ntfs which cannot be booted by uefi and therefore forces legacy mode
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> duhj: to boot uefi you must boot from fat12/16/32 for non ro-fs
[23:59] <nineball> help setting up a cannon wifi printer?