[00:26] <kzetts> Hi, is there a way to specify screen resolution before install? like at the end of the boot options?
[00:26] <kzetts> I really dont want to use nomodeset
[00:46] <v1adimir> Xfce4-Netload-Plugin: Error in initializing: Interface was not found. ( s28.postimg.org/w72ohqxn1/Screenshot_02112014_01_37_45_AM.png ) << This is a new moment! xD
[00:47] <v1adimir> ^^ Runnin' on Oracle VM 4.3.6 r91406
[00:48] <starrats> me too vladimir
[00:54] <v1adimir> starrats: oh i just posted a screenshot, with an error, right b4 u joined
[00:54] <v1adimir> s28.postimg.org/w72ohqxn1/Screenshot_02112014_01_37_45_AM.png (but it still werx)
[00:55] <starrats> can't see it
[02:22] <aarmnn> hey all
[02:22] <aarmnn> I'm getting an error of error: "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'"
[02:23] <holstein> when?
[02:23] <aarmnn> about half the time I start up from my xubuntu USB stick
[02:23] <aarmnn> it's a grub error i think
[02:23] <holstein> oh.. is the stick going bad?
[02:23] <holstein> aarmnn: you arent able to boot?
[02:23] <aarmnn> it's always had problems booting
[02:23] <aarmnn> holstein, it boots right about half the time
[02:23] <holstein> aarmnn: boot "right" ?
[02:24] <holstein> how does it boot "wrong"?
[02:24] <aarmnn> correctly
[02:24] <aarmnn> it freezes on grub with an error of error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'
[02:24] <aarmnn> when it doesn't boot
[02:25] <aarmnn> I need it to boot consistently because i'm going to use it from a remote location
[02:26] <holstein> sure.. and, they always boot consistently for me.. and i havent heard others with this issue, so, my first reaction is.. is the stick bad?
[02:26] <holstein> the other would be what im finding when searching..
[02:26] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/229715/booting-ubuntu-failure-error-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0 for example
[02:26] <aarmnn> I don't know how to tell if it is bad
[02:27] <aarmnn> yeah i read that one
[02:27] <holstein> well, you can take another stick and test it.. that would remove the stick from the equation
[02:27] <aarmnn> "Booting from a LiveCD and altering grub.cfg to access the block device by name instead of UUID was the fix for me."
[02:27] <aarmnn> ^don't know how to do that, because grub.cfg is reeallly long
[02:27] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error suggests its a grub issue
[02:27] <aarmnn> and there's many instances of UUIDs
[02:28] <aarmnn> anyone know how to alter grub.cfg to rename UUID to block device names : P
[02:29] <holstein> aarmnn: i use gparted to find the names.. you can just change them
[02:29] <holstein> though, you can fiddle around here, and if hte stick is bad, the stick is bad
[02:29] <aarmnn> it's a new stick
[02:29] <aarmnn> nothing weird partition wise
[02:30] <holstein> aarmnn: new ones go bad as well.. they *all* go bad
[02:30] <aarmnn> damn
[02:30] <holstein> im not saying you have a bad stick. all im saying is, you dont know if you have a bad stick, and thats not a common issue that im aware of, or witnessing
[02:31] <holstein> i remember actually changing manually *to* using UUID's
[02:31] <aarmnn> the grub.cfg is very confusing to me :/
[02:31] <aarmnn> it's so long
[02:31] <holstein> then, go with what you know
[02:31] <holstein> its quite easy to test another stick
[02:32] <holstein> or, do a grub repair
[02:32] <aarmnn> no other usb devices boot on it now, maybe because of my funky hardware setup
[02:33] <aarmnn> I'll have to remove some hardware to use another stick
[02:33] <aarmnn> can I do a grub-repair on the stick that boots half the time? My main one?
[02:33] <holstein> aarmnn: what "funky hardware" setup?
[02:33] <aarmnn> lots of GPUs
[02:34] <holstein> aarmnn: i use boot repair from a live CD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:35] <aarmnn> i don't have a CD drive or a hard drive, but I can try putting boot repair on another usb i guess
[02:36] <aarmnn> can I post a pastebin link of my grub.cfg?
[02:36] <holstein> aarmnn: "live CD' just refers to the iso
[02:36] <aarmnn> maybe you can tell me what to edit
[02:36] <aarmnn> oh
[02:37] <holstein> aarmnn: not really.. UUID's are specific to your setup, and i find them (personally) using gparted and looking and making a note of the UUID
[02:37] <aarmnn> i've never used gparted, can I use it without a separate usb?
[02:37] <holstein> aarmnn: i use the live iso via USB.. a "live USB" *is* what i use (and refer to as live CD) to repair grub using what i linked
[02:39] <aarmnn> if other USBs worked on my system right now, I could actually use your recommendations
[02:39] <aarmnn> sorry :/, I'll have to try some other time after digging out hardware
[02:40] <holstein> aarmnn: im not sure what you are talking about "if other usb's worked"
[02:41] <aarmnn> for some reason, my safety liveUSB isn't working
[02:41] <aarmnn> my safety liveUSB worked before I installed a few GPUs
[02:42] <holstein> aarmnn: confirm what reason... one easy way is boot these stick on *any* other machine
[02:42] <holstein> aarmnn: you installed a few "graphical processing units" ?
[02:42] <aarmnn> yeah
[02:43] <holstein> should be easy to remove those, and test the sticks.. whatever you do to the hardware to break usb boot will not be related to xubuntu
[02:43] <holstein> or grub
[02:43] <aarmnn> I've had the exact same boot problem with my main USB before and after the GPUs
[02:43] <aarmnn> it's my other safety liveUSB that works 0% of the time
[02:43] <holstein> i would take the sticks to other machines.. you have already tried other sticks on that machine. if the sticks boot on other machines, and that machine doesnt boot the sticks.. then i say the issue is with the machine
[02:43] <aarmnn> my main USB works 50% of the time
[02:44] <holstein> aarmnn: just make another live USB
[02:44] <holstein> a safetly live USB is just an installer.. just a live system.. its nothing to sweat protecting..*easily* replacable
[02:45] <aarmnn> i can try that holstein, but what would have altered my live USB? I mean it's used "live" unlike my main one
[02:46] <holstein> aarmnn: if it works on other hardware, and not that one.. then *nothing* could have altered it.. it's just fine in that scenario, and the altering was your altering the hardware that prevents the booting
[02:46] <aarmnn> unfortunately i only have one 64-bit system :/
[02:47] <aarmnn> so i can't test it on other computers
[02:47] <holstein> aarmnn: feel free and explain the relevance
[02:47] <holstein> aarmnn: the "safety live system" is 64bit?
[02:47] <aarmnn> yeah
[02:47] <holstein> aarmnn: just make a 32bit one. and test on *all* your machines
[02:48] <holstein> as i said above, you have no reason to protect that live system. its just a live system..
[02:48] <aarmnn> i understand
[04:08] <Liquidedge> I'm using Samba for the network.  Is there a way to tell Xubuntu to connect to a share as a different user?
[04:24] <Liquidedge> #xbmc
[04:24] <holstein> Liquidedge: i use gigolo
[04:24] <holstein> !gigolo
[04:24] <holstein> !info gigolo
[04:24] <Liquidedge> Perfect.  Thanks!
[04:24] <holstein> should be promted for user/pass
[04:25] <Liquidedge> Oh, looks like I already have it installed.
[04:25] <Liquidedge> It's not doing that.
[04:26] <holstein> to answer the question. sure.. threre are ways to connect to shares as different users
[04:28] <Liquidedge> Okay, sorry for not being exactly specific.  So, for the natural follow-up, how?  Gigolo doesn't seem to be doing it.
[06:28] <PublicStaticVoid> My wireless keeps dropping, I think I need a better driver
[06:28] <PublicStaticVoid> also how can I make my trackpad disable for a few seconds when I am typing like windows does?
[07:36] <dangtrinhnt> Hi everyone, have a dummy question: how can I write a patch fix for a xubuntu release?
[07:41] <baizon> dangtrinhnt: ask this question on #xubuntu-devel
[07:41] <Unit193> What do you mean?
[07:43] <baizon> dangtrinhnt: ah you mean for yourself. Well you need to take the source code and compile it then afterwards
[07:56] <dangtrinhnt> baizon: yes, i just want to fix on my computer first, then if it is ready, I will contact xubuntu-devel team
[07:58] <baizon> dangtrinhnt: you need to take the source code, fix it there and compile it then afterwards.
[07:59] <dangtrinhnt> Oh, thanks baizon!
[09:30] <prasad_> how to get my computer icon in xubuntu
[09:30] <prasad_> nybody knw
[09:31] <fibz__> use Nautilus. you can create a shortcut on your desktop
[09:41] <bazhang> xubuntu uses thunar does it not
[09:42] <Unit193> And xfdesktop.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> bazhang, by default, it does.  but I believe nautilus is also packaged for some reason
[09:43] <bazhang> cfhowlett, thanks
[09:43] <bazhang> just seems odd to recommend nautilus as a first step
[09:43] <Unit193> cfhowlett: Of course it's packaged, but not installed by default.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> "of course" ?  why ? if xfce/thunar are present?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> or did I use an imprecise verb?
[09:44] <Unit193> Because the repo isn't exclusive to what Xubuntu uses, Ubuntu Gnome uses it...
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Unit193, noted.
[09:57] <xubuntu601> buongiorno qualcuno sa spiegarmi come installare un gio win su xubuntu
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !it|xubuntu601,
[10:42] <superprower> guys
[10:42] <cfhowlett> superprower, greetings
[10:42] <superprower> Anybody know why the microphone level gets lower by himself?
[10:43] <superprower> i mean, he's volume level, slowly, but it's getting lover
[11:10] <nikolam> superprower, maybe some application is doing that. Skype is known to do it by itself, you can turn it of in it's settings.
[14:07] <superprower> Anybody know the command to clear the screen? Like cls in pascal/windows cmd?
[14:08] <knome> clear
[14:08] <superprower> knome, big thanks
[14:08] <baizon> =)
[14:08] <baizon> knome: this was a hard one :P
[14:09] <fzninuse> :D
[14:21] <xubuntu173> when istalling xubuntu 13.10, choose physical volume for encryption for swap partition. How do you specify the use of a random security key for swap only?
[14:51] <nikolam> It's ALL so FULL of bugs (13.10 64bit). I tried burnind CDRW .iso with K3B and Brasero and first one couldn't do it and Brasero 'kind' of did, but then crashed. Only Xfburn managed to blank CDRW and burn .iso (slow but he did it)
[14:52] <nikolam> need to reboot to upgrade BIOS flash from that CD..
[14:54] <starrats> I have had no bugs omn my xubuntu 13-10 nikolam, sorry you are having this problem.
[16:07] <daley> Hi, does anyone here know about customising desktop themes?
[16:09] <knome> daley, that's a large subject.. what's the actual question?
[16:11] <daley> sorry, basically I have just installed xubuntu 13.04. I have download a custom desktop theme in the form of a tar.gz file, and have no idea how to install it
[16:13] <daley> I tried extracting it to usr/share/themes, but it isn't showing up in the style tab of appearance
[16:20] <koegs> which theme exactly and did you extract it into a subfolder or directly into /usr/share/themes
[16:24] <daley> axe theme, from xfce-look.org, and I extracted it directly in there
[16:37] <xubuntu607> I installed a program through Synaptic. Unfortunettly I can not see a shortcut in list of programs. Program have a gui and work with gui in other people. The only way it work's now is through terminal comand. How to add shortcut o the program to program list ?
[16:43] <bazhang> what's the program
[16:52] <xubuntu532> Hello!  I've been trying to install Xubuntu on a new system and every time I try to install it it gives me a warning that says "/dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table...."
[16:53] <xubuntu532> It won't let me get past this screen.
[16:54] <daley> well this has been enlightening
[16:55] <xubuntu532> Any thoughts on what to do?
[16:56] <daley> google it
[16:56] <xubuntu532> I have and have tried everything on a few different threads.  No result.
[16:57] <daley> well I came here for help myself, and got no response, besides other questions
[16:58] <daley> beginning to think linux is a pain in the balls
[17:00] <xubuntu607> test
[17:01] <daley> hi xubuntu607 how can we help?
[18:20] <superprower> xubuntu552, man, just backup your files and convert your drive to MBR
[18:27] <bazhang> he's gone
[18:29] <superprower> well, i was too slow
[18:29] <superprower> hm
[18:30] <superprower> Can anybody help me? My usb-mouse has 2 additional buttons, but they work as "back" and "forward", i want to disable this binding
[18:30] <superprower> So, do i need to fix the drivers?
[18:30] <superprower> Or there is eathier way?
[18:31] <superprower> Sorry for english.
[18:36] <xubuntu223> HI. New to Xubuntu. Using precise pangolin. I had a functioning ethernet connection on an older dell but after turning the computer on its side I lost the connection. I have tested the router etc. and that is good. I did an ifconfig but I suspect the computer has failed to recognize the nic. I plugged in a usb network card, but the problem persists: so not hardware?  .
[18:36] <bazhang> !precise
[18:37] <bazhang> hotplugged?
[18:37] <xubuntu223> HI - sorry, I don't know what hotplugged means :-(
[18:38] <bazhang> plug in *after* the machine is booted and running
[18:38] <xubuntu223> no, I attached the usb nic, then booted
[18:39] <bazhang> whats the ethernet nic
[18:39] <bazhang> did you ifup eth0
[18:40] <xubuntu223> th eplug and play usb nic says this on the pack: 10/100 Mbps to RJ45 LAN network
[18:41] <bazhang> ok, and if you could get the inbuilt eth0 to work, that would be better, right?
[18:41] <xubuntu223> onboard it is an integrated nic (into themotherboard ) on a dell optiplex SX280
[18:41] <xubuntu223> ...yes prefer to activate the onboard
[18:42] <bazhang> could you please paste.ubuntu.com the terminal output of lspci
[18:43] <bazhang> if it's a different computer, then just give us the single line here
[18:43] <bazhang> ctrl alt T then lspci
[18:44] <bazhang> "l" as in list
[18:44] <xubuntu223> It is a different computer. I ran the command and have about 30 lines of response. Do you want a particular line?
[18:45] <xubuntu223> Oh I see...
[18:46] <bazhang> ethernet controller....something something
[18:47] <xubuntu223> It is a broadcom NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
[18:50] <xubuntu223> ...another thing you might need to know is I was messing around with the network connections after I lost connectivity, and deleted the formerly functioning automatic wired connection
[18:51] <xubuntu223> ...so now I just vane a never-used automatic on the list
[18:51] <xubuntu223> ..."enable networking" is activated.
[18:52] <bazhang> does ifconfig show a eth0
[18:53] <xubuntu223> It doesn't, as far as I can see.
[18:53] <xubuntu223> There is a response to that command, but eth0 noes not appear in the response
[18:53] <bazhang> just lo and wlan0?
[18:54] <xubuntu223> just lo, no wlane
[18:54] <bazhang> what about sudo ifup eth0
[18:54] <xubuntu223> The computer does not have a wireless card
[18:54] <bazhang> 0 as in zero
[18:54] <bazhang> eth is not wireless
[18:56] <xubuntu223> Thanks - I know eth0 is not wireless. sudo ifup eth0 gives...
[18:56] <xubuntu223> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[18:56] <bazhang> ok
[18:57] <bazhang> is this a dual boot?
[18:57] <xubuntu223> no
[18:57] <bazhang> thats odd
[18:57] <bazhang> does sudo ifdown eth0 return anything
[18:58] <xubuntu223> "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[19:00] <bazhang> followed by sudo ifup eth0  ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500
[19:03] <xubuntu223> I ran that whole string as a single command and got 5 lines, all starting with "ignoring unknown interface..."
[19:04] <xubuntu223> I ran just ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500, and got "SIOCSIFMTU: no such device"
[19:12] <Belial`> when i create launchers in the top panel how do i make it to where it's not a pull down list? i'd rather have all the shortcuts go across the bar and be visible all the time.
[19:12] <Belial`> http://i.imgur.com/85hnl9h.png here's what it's doing now.
[19:14] <elfy> that's nested launchers isn't - just have them in seperate launchers wouldn't do that
[19:15] <Belial`> ah, so just keep adding them to the panel separately..
[19:15] <Belial`> gotcha.
[19:16] <xubuntu223> just keeping my thread alive - not very familiar with IRC
[19:18] <bazhang> thats ok, just searching still
[19:19] <bazhang> what does ethtool -i eth0  return, if anything
[19:19] <bazhang> that nic has/had a bug related to the tg3 module not being properly loaded
[19:22] <xubuntu223> That returns: "The program ethtool is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install ethtool"
[19:22] <bazhang> :)
[19:23] <bazhang> lets install that, and linux-firmware
[19:25] <xubuntu223> Ran the command, but some got an error because not internet access
[19:26] <xubuntu223> Is this on the install disk, or should I get these with my functioning connection, burn them, and load from disk?
[19:27] <bazhang> just a moment please
[19:28] <xubuntu223> ok. Thanks much BTW.
[19:32] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/linux-firmware/download
[19:32] <bazhang> thats a .deb ; you dl it on this machine, then install it on the other
[19:32] <bazhang> usb stick to transfer over
[19:34] <xubuntu223> right. will do.
[19:34] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ethtool  <--- this one you need to choose which arch you are on, ie 64bit or 32bit
[19:35] <bazhang> hopefully just the linux-firmware will get this going
[19:40] <xubuntu223> I ran that on the xubuntu machine, but the software centre says a later verion is already installed :-(
[19:43] <xubuntu223> here are some specifics fom the sudo apt-get install ethtool report...
[19:46] <xubuntu223> Err http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main/e/ethtool/ethtool_3.1-1_1386.deb Could not resolve 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'
[19:47] <bazhang> linux-firmware?
[19:47] <xubuntu223> ..yes there is a space (not underscore) in the returned url, but not that it matters for me
[19:47] <xubuntu223> also...
[19:48] <bazhang> well, thats because you want to download on *this* machine, then transfer the .deb to *that* machine
[19:48] <xubuntu223> Failed to fetch...and then the same url  and file info
[19:48] <bazhang> via usb stick
[19:48] <bazhang> ie, not via apt-get
[19:49] <xubuntu223> then: E: Unable to fetch some archives, try running apt-get update or apt-get --fix-missing.
[19:49] <bazhang> right, we are *not* using apt-get here
[19:50] <xubuntu223> ok. :-)
[19:51] <xubuntu223> I'm gathering that is a software-getting app that might be useful at other times
[19:51] <bazhang> so the link I gave above of linux-firmware..etc.deb  , you download on the internet connected computer, insert usb stick, and copy to the non-internet machine
[19:52] <bazhang> once you have copied it over, you can try either double-clicking (should work) or via command line, if it does not
[19:53] <xubuntu223> yes, I downloaded from the link on that page, then moved the file to the xubuntu maching and double-clicked. Software centre opened, and called it "firmware for linux kernel drivers"
[19:54] <xubuntu223> ... until last friday when the internet connection was dropped I was updating xubuntu whenever it opened pretty much
[19:55] <xubuntu223> but this also happened as I was rejigging my entertainment centre to accomodate a new smart TV. Is the TV interfereing?
[19:55] <bazhang> so lets check ifconfig -a   again
[19:56] <xubuntu223> This functioning machine is windows...
[19:56] <bazhang> yes, ifconfig -a on the non-internet one
[19:57] <xubuntu223> I get a lo report
[19:58] <xubuntu223> ...about the tv, I have not tried disconnecting the tv and then rebooting the ubuntu machine.
[19:59] <bazhang> the tv?
[20:00] <bazhang> I would simply restart the xubuntu machine with the ethernet cable attached and see if the tg3 module loads correctly
[20:01] <xubuntu223> ya - just a thought. see comments above bout new smart tv
[20:01] <bazhang> ie, once you have installed the linux-firmware package
[20:05] <xubuntu223> Thanks. I tried to install the linux firmware package, but the software centre said it was not installed because I already have a more recent version installed - reboot anyway?
[20:07] <bazhang> does the tv have its own internet connection?
[20:09] <xubuntu223> no - tv, windows and linux computers all run off the same router
[20:10] <xubuntu223> just disconnected the tv from the router and rebooting linux machine
[20:11] <bazhang> I'm just wondering if something happened to disable the module thus recognizing the nic, does a live cd allow for the nic to be seen and connect?
[20:12] <bazhang> ok, lets wait for that, then
[20:14] <xubuntu223> reboot with tv disconnected did not help.
[20:18] <bazhang> could we try with booting from a live cd now?
[20:23] <xubuntu223> ok - two questions. Somehow I missed your link to ethtool above, so I got that, put it on a usb drive, moved it to the ubuntu machine and double clicked. Software centre warns me not to install unless I trust the source, but does not allow me to install (install button is inactive) - do you want me to install from the command line?
[20:23] <xubuntu223> ...and second question - what is a live cd?
[20:25] <bazhang> well a live medium of some kind, ie the iso is written to it, and is used to install, do disk partitioning, or simply test if a standard configuration works correctly
[20:25] <bazhang> the iso file is written to either a cd/dvd/usb stick depending on the iso size
[20:26] <xubuntu223> the only thing i have on cd is the  desktop image I used initially to install xubuntu - will that work?
[20:26] <bazhang> once the iso is written to the media, you need to set in bios to boot from that *first*
[20:27] <bazhang> yes, thats what we want
[20:27] <bazhang> be sure to set in bios to look for it first
[20:28] <xubuntu223> Ok - I think I can set the bios. I will put the cd in, reboot, go to bios and run from cd first... does that seem right?
[20:28] <bazhang> different computers have varying keys that need to be pressed to get into bios, could be del key or some other, it will say
[20:29] <bazhang> I'd set in bios first, then put in cd, reboot
[20:30] <xubuntu223> ok
[20:36] <sleezio> hello, i removed zeitgeist from xubuntu, only problem i have so far with removing it is software center, it depends on the zeitgeist logger(core) be installed...which means everytime you load up software center, either it sends your zeitgeist log(database) to ubuntu or gives them access to it...is there a trick to get software center to run without it?
[20:37] <xubuntu223> ok I have changed bios and booted from live cd
[20:37] <xubuntu223> I have the option to "try xubuntu"
[20:40] <xubuntu223> Ok up and running
[20:40] <bazhang> does it get an internet connection
[20:41] <xubuntu223> yes it does!
[20:41] <bazhang> is using the software centre a necessity?
[20:41] <bazhang> great
[20:42] <xubuntu223> maybe just re-install xubuntu?
[20:43] <bazhang> how old is the install?
[20:44] <xubuntu223> just last november
[20:44] <xubuntu223> maybe october
[20:45] <bazhang> were you planning to stick with precise for the longer term? go with the newer LTS in April, or some other
[20:45] <xubuntu223> no plans
[20:45] <xubuntu223> this is my first time with linux, so just learning.
[20:46] <bazhang> I guess it depends on how much data you might have to back up, if you have a separate /home partition, the speed of your internet while installing
[20:47] <bazhang> although the more recent versions allow you to preserve /home if I am not mistaken
[20:47] <xubuntu223> not much to save.
[20:48] <xubuntu223> it is just a home computer. I want to set up a home network but not sure if that is possible between windows, linux, and smart tv
[20:48] <bazhang> ok. well it's great that the nic is recognized, for starters
[20:49] <bazhang> oh it's very possible
[20:49] <xubuntu223> Yes - and btw thanks VERY much for your help and persistance
[20:49] <bazhang> hah. just plain luck
[20:50] <xubuntu223> it may seem like that to you - luck comes to the prepared, as they say.
[20:51] <xubuntu223> ...do you have a thought on what distro is best suited to home newtork on an older machine as in my case?
[20:51] <bazhang> well, in future, you might want to open a /msg with ubottu , the channel bot, it helps to search for packages
[20:51] <bazhang> as a kind of tv box, controller centre?
[20:53] <xubuntu223> I'll check that out - thanks again.
[20:55] <bazhang> some of the "smarter" smart tv's have a usb slot that really override that need
[20:56] <bazhang> unless you wanted it as a kind of streaming server type setup
[20:57] <xubuntu223> well I'm getting into waters too deep for me here. I have yet to really understand my tv... I'll have to do some more reading.
[20:58] <xubuntu223> I do want to be able to play the movies on my external (windows) drive on the tv, so I'm guessing a LAN would do that...
[20:58] <xubuntu223> then the xubuntu machine might be able to be available in that LAN
[21:00] <bazhang> certainly
[21:00] <bazhang> I'd first do a check on the sides/back of the tv for a usb slot
[21:01] <xubuntu223> that sounds useful to me. anyhow I'll need to do some learning on networking and smart tvs
[21:01] <bazhang> well, we are always here :)
[21:02] <xubuntu223> ...yes tv has multile usbs and hdmi slots, as well as analog inputs
[21:02] <bazhang> nice
[21:02] <xubuntu223> ...but no vga input
[21:02] <bazhang> you could check the manual for the tv, and see if those usb allow for reading from files on the usb sticks
[21:03] <xubuntu223> ok
[21:03] <bazhang> or simply plug one in, and hit usb on the remote
[21:03] <xubuntu223> good idea. I'll try it.
[21:03] <bazhang> but we are getting offtopic :)
[21:04] <xubuntu223> yes - I'll sign off. Thanks again.
[21:04] <sleezio> this is weird, i ran "apt-cache depends software-center" and it doesn't list zeitgeist-core...yet, since i've removed zeitgeist and try to launch software center from terminal, it tells me it can't find "ImportError: No module named zeitgeist_logger"....are they trying to hide this from users?
[21:04] <bazhang> see you :)
[21:05] <bazhang> I'm not sure there sleezio ; is using the software centre a must?
[21:05] <sleezio> not really, i just find it strange that even linux coders are going the way or violating privacy these days
[21:05] <bazhang> !find zeitgeist
[21:06] <bazhang> I'd seriously doubt that, but there are privacy options that can be ticked/unticked in the settings
[21:33] <mapps> why does apapche look to be running 4/5x ?
[21:33] <mapps> 1 time as root and rest as user apache
[21:41] <bekks> mapps: Because it starts as root, then creates the forks, and the forks are answering your requests.
[21:42] <mapps> aha
[21:42] <mapps> thanks mate
[21:43] <mapps> i understand now
[21:44] <mapps> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204469&page=2 -- thats what in struggling with :(
[23:44] <staffykid> hi, being a newbie to xubuntu I noticed in my home folder a .xauthorization file, it looked like others that had .bash and so on, being a complete ninkampoop I deleted what I believed were temp files, they are not in the bin as I used shift-del to remove them, is there any way I can get the xauth file back or is it a complete re-install?