[02:15] <Nothing_Much> Quick question
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> Will Wubi be removed from the 14.04 disk?
[02:16] <Nothing_Much> Because people will get confused about the whole "Install Ubuntu right next to Windows" as soon as they pop in a DVD or LiveUSB :(
[03:14] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, The actual install has been removed from the disc for awhile, it's a download in windows if accessible now.
[03:14] <Nothing_Much> Oh really?
[03:14] <Beldar> not supprted in other words
[03:14] <Nothing_Much> It must be on the 12.04 disk then
[06:31] <hyper_ch> I just get the strangest apt dist-upgrade message - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6918442/
[06:33] <hyper_ch> on the one side it tells me that libkubuntu0 isn't required anymore and that I can autoremove it... on the other hand it tells me it needs an upgrade and that it will be upgraded.... however neither upgrading nor removing solves the problem...
[10:46] <muszek> hi... I've upgraded to 13.10 two days ago and it's very unstable (I have to hard reset a few times a day).  I'm contemplating either a fresh install of 13.10 or an early jump to 14.04... how stable is it at the moment?
[10:54] <eyfour> muszek: As the topic says, 14.04 may break at any moment, and thus it is not really trusty just yet. That being said, I have been running it for a week now and kept it upgraded, and there are very few apparent bugs with a vanilla configuration.
[10:56] <eyfour> muszek: In other words, it seems to work as per this moment, but please do not expect it to be reliable for actual work until it gets released.
[11:08] <muszek> eyfour: thank you.  I'm aware of the implications, I've used ubuntu for almost 9 years and used to be an early updater.
[11:08] <eyfour> muszek: I see. You shuld be fine, then :)
[11:10] <eyfour> muszek: By the way, I should add that I have not attempted to run any other DE/shell than Unity yet. Some people mentioned recently that gnome-shell would not install correctly, but I don't know if that still applies.
[11:11] <muszek> eyfour: thanks (I'm on unity)
[12:03] <tarzeau> does anyone use ubuntu in the enterprise in here? i was curious how you do that with non-free software and hardware drivers?
[12:04] <tarzeau> i can't login at lightdm on 14.04 with ubuntu/unity, gnome, kde, and xfce. however lxde, enlightenment, windowmaker, amiwm do work. (multiuser, autofs, nfs home environment)
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <ikonia> tarzeau: I don't need any non-free drivers in the enterprise solutions I see using ubuntu
[12:24] <tarzeau> ikonia: so you're not needing fast/opengl 3d?
[12:24] <ikonia> no
[12:25] <tarzeau> ikonia: lucky for you then. are you able to reproduce my login problem? or are you using local users?
[12:25] <ikonia> and the novue driver for some nvidia cards has been fine, but pretty much I see very little ubuntu desktop use (I assume you're talking about desktop) in the enterprise
[12:25] <tarzeau> yes that's right, desktop. for servers we got debian
[12:26] <ikonia> I'm not aware/missed your problem description, what's the issue ?
[12:26] <ikonia> just use the non-free drivers if you need that level of graphics performance
[12:26] <ikonia> as in the login problem
[12:30] <tarzeau> what are you using ubuntu for exactly?
[12:31] <tarzeau> we're also having a hard time with upstart
[13:29] <howie_> !ops
[13:29] <howie_> !staff
[14:10] <hyper_ch> I just get the strangest apt dist-upgrade message - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6918442/
[14:10] <hyper_ch> on the one side it tells me that libkubuntu0 isn't required anymore and that I can autoremove it... on the other hand it tells me it needs an upgrade and that it will be upgraded.... however neither upgrading nor removing solves the problem...
[14:57] <Rory> hyper_ch: can you try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[14:57] <hyper_ch> Rory: doesn't change anything... tried to purge it, tried to install it, it just keeps popping up
[14:59] <Rory> hyper_ch: Possibly a broken package, maybe wait a few hours to see if another apt-get update fixes it
[16:38] <arielsanflo> hello
[16:39] <arielsanflo> good morning
[16:58] <BluesKaj> 'morning arielsanflo
[22:26] <kaimast> What can be the cause this during debuild? "dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory"
[22:30] <kaimast> i dont have a list file :( never needed one in any debian package before
[23:41] <miseria> "la verdadera felicidad de un ser humano, se logra cuando deja de ser esclavo, de la avaricia y la codicia" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*