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Nothing_MuchQuick question02:15
Nothing_MuchWill Wubi be removed from the 14.04 disk?02:15
Nothing_MuchBecause people will get confused about the whole "Install Ubuntu right next to Windows" as soon as they pop in a DVD or LiveUSB :(02:16
BeldarNothing_Much, The actual install has been removed from the disc for awhile, it's a download in windows if accessible now.03:14
Nothing_MuchOh really?03:14
Beldarnot supprted in other words03:14
Nothing_MuchIt must be on the 12.04 disk then03:14
hyper_chI just get the strangest apt dist-upgrade message - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6918442/06:31
hyper_chon the one side it tells me that libkubuntu0 isn't required anymore and that I can autoremove it... on the other hand it tells me it needs an upgrade and that it will be upgraded.... however neither upgrading nor removing solves the problem...06:33
muszekhi... I've upgraded to 13.10 two days ago and it's very unstable (I have to hard reset a few times a day).  I'm contemplating either a fresh install of 13.10 or an early jump to 14.04... how stable is it at the moment?10:46
eyfourmuszek: As the topic says, 14.04 may break at any moment, and thus it is not really trusty just yet. That being said, I have been running it for a week now and kept it upgraded, and there are very few apparent bugs with a vanilla configuration.10:54
eyfourmuszek: In other words, it seems to work as per this moment, but please do not expect it to be reliable for actual work until it gets released.10:56
muszekeyfour: thank you.  I'm aware of the implications, I've used ubuntu for almost 9 years and used to be an early updater.11:08
eyfourmuszek: I see. You shuld be fine, then :)11:08
eyfourmuszek: By the way, I should add that I have not attempted to run any other DE/shell than Unity yet. Some people mentioned recently that gnome-shell would not install correctly, but I don't know if that still applies.11:10
muszekeyfour: thanks (I'm on unity)11:11
tarzeaudoes anyone use ubuntu in the enterprise in here? i was curious how you do that with non-free software and hardware drivers?12:03
tarzeaui can't login at lightdm on 14.04 with ubuntu/unity, gnome, kde, and xfce. however lxde, enlightenment, windowmaker, amiwm do work. (multiuser, autofs, nfs home environment)12:04
BluesKajHey folks12:21
ikoniatarzeau: I don't need any non-free drivers in the enterprise solutions I see using ubuntu12:24
tarzeauikonia: so you're not needing fast/opengl 3d?12:24
ikoniano12:24
tarzeauikonia: lucky for you then. are you able to reproduce my login problem? or are you using local users?12:25
ikoniaand the novue driver for some nvidia cards has been fine, but pretty much I see very little ubuntu desktop use (I assume you're talking about desktop) in the enterprise12:25
tarzeauyes that's right, desktop. for servers we got debian12:25
ikoniaI'm not aware/missed your problem description, what's the issue ?12:26
ikoniajust use the non-free drivers if you need that level of graphics performance12:26
ikoniaas in the login problem12:26
tarzeauwhat are you using ubuntu for exactly?12:30
tarzeauwe're also having a hard time with upstart12:31
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hyper_chI just get the strangest apt dist-upgrade message - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6918442/14:10
hyper_chon the one side it tells me that libkubuntu0 isn't required anymore and that I can autoremove it... on the other hand it tells me it needs an upgrade and that it will be upgraded.... however neither upgrading nor removing solves the problem...14:10
Roryhyper_ch: can you try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install14:57
hyper_chRory: doesn't change anything... tried to purge it, tried to install it, it just keeps popping up14:57
Roryhyper_ch: Possibly a broken package, maybe wait a few hours to see if another apt-get update fixes it14:59
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arielsanflohello16:38
arielsanflogood morning16:39
BluesKaj'morning arielsanflo16:58
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kaimastWhat can be the cause this during debuild? "dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory"22:26
kaimasti dont have a list file :( never needed one in any debian package before22:30
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miseria"la verdadera felicidad de un ser humano, se logra cuando deja de ser esclavo, de la avaricia y la codicia" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*23:41
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