| RileyGuy_ | Ok, so I'm having graphics glitches with lubuntu on my macbook pro 11" non-retina early 2011 the menus have graphical texture issues and so do the windows and other things | 00:42 |
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| holstein | !macbook | 00:43 |
| ubottu | For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages | 00:43 |
| holstein | !ati | 00:43 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 00:43 |
| RileyGuy_ | i tried both of those links | 00:43 |
| RileyGuy_ | they dont help with the graphical issues at all | 00:43 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: ok.. what have you "tried" from them? | 00:43 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: ? | 00:43 |
| RileyGuy_ | they don't tell me what to do to fix it, I just want to use my mac for minecraft and a few other things | 00:43 |
| RileyGuy_ | thats all | 00:43 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: you will read and determine how to "Fix" it.. assuming there is a fix | 00:44 |
| RileyGuy_ | i dont wanna have to install this and that and this and that and then get god's autograph to use it | 00:44 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: they should have methods by which you can determine both what graphics device you have, and hwat macbook verision you have | 00:44 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: you are choosing to do something that is not supported by the hardware you have purchased | 00:45 |
| RileyGuy_ | how am i supposed to do this without a mac OS | 00:45 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: apple purschased that hardware, and worked with it to make sure osx worked on there. that is what you are agreeing to do.. your own support | 00:45 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: you will first start by stating what graphics hardware you have | 00:45 |
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| holstein | RileyGuy_: if there is a proprietary driver, you can easily try it, and likely clear up any issues easily | 00:46 |
| RileyGuy_ | well its a macbook pro 11" early 2011 non-retina | 00:46 |
| RileyGuy_ | soo | 00:46 |
| RileyGuy_ | im assuming intel graphics? | 00:46 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: so.. what graphics driver? | 00:46 |
| RileyGuy_ | i dont really know how | 00:46 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: please, assume nothing | 00:46 |
| RileyGuy_ | how | 00:46 |
| RileyGuy_ | do i check | 00:46 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: one way you can do that is by running the comand suggested by ianorlin in the other channel.. lspci.. that comand is also suggested in the documentation i linked here | 00:47 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: have you opened a terminal and ran the command "lspci" ? | 00:47 |
| RileyGuy_ | nvidia corperation | 00:47 |
| holstein | if so, and you need help understanding the outpu, please use.. | 00:47 |
| holstein | !paste | 00:47 |
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| holstein | RileyGuy_: also, at the link i gave.. | 00:47 |
| holstein | !nvidia | RileyGuy_ | 00:47 |
| ubottu | RileyGuy_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 00:47 |
| holstein | is information on providing support for that device | 00:48 |
| ianorlin | also can you run cat /proc/cpuinfo | 00:48 |
| holstein | the nvidia proprietary driver will likely clear up any issues | 00:48 |
| holstein | it has for me | 00:48 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: have you installed, the nvidia driver module from the repos? | 00:50 |
| RileyGuy_ | it | 00:51 |
| RileyGuy_ | doesnt tell me | 00:51 |
| RileyGuy_ | how to install it | 00:51 |
| RileyGuy_ | on lubuntu | 00:51 |
| RileyGuy_ | only ubuntu | 00:51 |
| RileyGuy_ | im this close to just installing windows | 00:51 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: sure.. but, lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. the same package namges | 00:51 |
| holstein | names* | 00:51 |
| RileyGuy_ | but not the same stinkin interface | 00:51 |
| RileyGuy_ | ive been trying for 2 days | 00:52 |
| RileyGuy_ | and it doesnt work | 00:52 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: please, know that i am a volunteer.. i dont need what is feeling like a threat | 00:52 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: i understand your frustrations | 00:52 |
| RileyGuy_ | im not trying to threaten you | 00:52 |
| RileyGuy_ | im just very VERY frustrated | 00:52 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: but, you had bad hardware. that is not the cause of *any* software | 00:52 |
| holstein | linux/lubuntu/ubuntu is working as advertised.. it cannot provide you witht he driver you need, due to legal issue with nvidia | 00:52 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: you are welcome to install it | 00:53 |
| RileyGuy_ | ok | 00:53 |
| RileyGuy_ | i | 00:53 |
| RileyGuy_ | am done | 00:53 |
| ianorlin | you can even relax in chat some on in if you can get to a virtual terminal | 00:53 |
| RileyGuy_ | i cant take this anymore | 00:53 |
| ianorlin | if you install the right clinet | 00:53 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: sure.. enjoy! and keep in mind, you will have this issue in all OS's | 00:53 |
| RileyGuy_ | ok | 00:54 |
| holstein | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.lubuntu.user/3987 will help | 00:54 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: its literally like installing a driver package into the kernel. one that we are not allowed to provide you | 00:54 |
| RileyGuy_ | ok | 00:55 |
| RileyGuy_ | ok | 00:55 |
| RileyGuy_ | if i can install teamviewer, will someone help me | 00:55 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: someone in #ubuntu might.. this is not lubuntu specific | 00:55 |
| RileyGuy_ | ok | 00:55 |
| holstein | !volunteers | 00:55 |
| RileyGuy_ | im | 00:55 |
| ubottu | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 00:55 |
| RileyGuy_ | just gonna install windows 8 now... | 00:55 |
| RileyGuy_ | sorry | 00:56 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: sure.. enjoy! | 00:56 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: you will need drivers there as well | 00:56 |
| ianorlin | good luck | 00:56 |
| RileyGuy_ | yes | 00:56 |
| RileyGuy_ | but it is much easier on windows | 00:56 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: you will need to exercise patience at some point | 00:56 |
| RileyGuy_ | ive been patient for 2 days | 00:56 |
| RileyGuy_ | my patience has run out | 00:56 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: thats was due to faulty hardware | 00:56 |
| RileyGuy_ | i know | 00:57 |
| RileyGuy_ | but like i said | 00:57 |
| RileyGuy_ | its easier on windows | 00:57 |
| RileyGuy_ | sorry | 00:57 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: no.. what you have said is.. you are frustrated that is has taken 2 days to install lubuntu.. and that is not true | 00:57 |
| holstein | when you came here, and asked me, i sorted out that it was hardware in a mattter of minutes | 00:57 |
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| holstein | RileyGuy_: and you literally just got installed a few minutes ago.. you are going to have to install drivers one place or the other.. | 00:58 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: anyways.. enjoy! and we'll be here if win8 doesnt go as magical as you expect either | 00:58 |
| RileyGuy_ | ok | 00:58 |
| RileyGuy_ | im just really frustrated and angry | 00:58 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: sure. and im just a volunteer.. and you just go here.. so, do what you like and i welcome you back anytie | 00:59 |
| holstein | anytime* | 00:59 |
| holstein | thats what this is.. a community of support. its not tech support | 00:59 |
| ianorlin | I think windows 8 might be a waste of time as ins't the 2005 mac mini a power pc? | 00:59 |
| RileyGuy_ | i know you're only trying to help | 00:59 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: trying? we went a long way in the short time you have been here.. | 01:00 |
| RileyGuy_ | yes | 01:00 |
| RileyGuy_ | you did help | 01:01 |
| RileyGuy_ | and im not saying i aint grateful, its just it got me no where in the end and i chose to install windows | 01:01 |
| RileyGuy_ | btw the terminal printed some weird matrix stuff ._. | 01:01 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: no where would be that.. you have determined *why* you have been wasting time the past 2 days.. you have a hardware issue | 01:02 |
| holstein | you are at a point where you have one driver issue.. a known issue.. one that has plenty of documentation | 01:02 |
| holstein | if you want to run win8, go for it.. | 01:02 |
| holstein | but, lubuntu is working as advertised | 01:03 |
| RileyGuy_ | and im not smart enough to fix it | 01:03 |
| RileyGuy_ | so thats that | 01:03 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: nothing is broken to fix | 01:03 |
| RileyGuy_ | the graphics issue | 01:03 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: its just a matter of installing a driver.. nothing needs fixed | 01:03 |
| RileyGuy_ | which takes commands and moving things around, and doing 12 terminal commands and complicated stuff | 01:04 |
| RileyGuy_ | im sorry, but i just don't have anymore patience for this | 01:04 |
| holstein | RileyGuy_: then, you will nt have better luck with windows | 01:06 |
| holstein | it requires the same | 01:07 |
| holstein | maybe, more | 01:07 |
| holstein | i mean, right now, you have all the other drivers.. and, there *is* an nvidia one available.. are there win8 driver for your hardware? | 01:09 |
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| pip__ | I can't access my samba shares from lubuntu 13.10 (pcmanfm 1.1.2) - anybody got any ideas for a fix? | 11:55 |
| diecastarts | hello again. really small question this time....... is there a package i can install so I can take screenshot like ubuntu does... Like if you hit printscreen it auto macs opens a small editor | 16:24 |
| holstein | diecastarts: there are many screenshot applications | 16:24 |
| diecastarts | yeah I don;t want a application | 16:25 |
| diecastarts | Looking for the one that comes pre-installed like the ubuntu one | 16:25 |
| holstein | diecastarts: package/application. whatever you like to call it.. you need an app | 16:25 |
| holstein | should be saved in your /home folder | 16:26 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/184618/taking-screenshots-in-lubuntu-11-10 | 16:27 |
| holstein | though, i dont use kgrab.. i use scrot | 16:28 |
| holstein | !info scrot | 16:28 |
| ubottu | scrot (source: scrot): command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-13 (saucy), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB | 16:28 |
| holstein | but, there are many, the included one that automatically puts the full screen image in your /home, and many installable from the repos.. the same repos main ubuntu uses | 16:28 |
| diecastarts | k thanks checking that out | 16:30 |
| holstein | sure.. enjoy! | 16:30 |
| Xgates | hi guys | 22:02 |
| Xgates | Does Lubuntu have the same Amazon data recording crap going on? | 22:03 |
| Xgates | also the recording of data locally, which is listed under the Privacy section/Tab last I checked in Ubuntu you can turn off... | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | Doesn't have unity, thus doesn't have scopes, thus no. | 22:03 |
| Xgates | Not having Unity doesn't mean this does not exsist elementary OS has the data recording crap in it... | 22:04 |
| Xgates | I don't just mean the Amazon stuff... | 22:04 |
| Xgates | I cring now a days at the thought of Ubuntu based distros, all these developers of their own distros shouldn't support Canonical, but probably will never happen... | 22:06 |
| Unit193 | What "data recording crap" are you talking about? | 22:07 |
| Xgates | thank GOD I'm not a Linux noob, this isn't for me, and I'm testing out Peppermint which is Debian/Lubuntu based... | 22:07 |
| Xgates | Last I checked in the Ubuntu system preferences it's in the Privacy section... | 22:08 |
| Unit193 | Might want to ask them then, what they do could well be different than Lubuntu. | 22:08 |
| Xgates | what who could do? | 22:08 |
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| Unit193 | Peppermint. zeitgeist doesn't ET phone home, either. | 22:08 |
| Xgates | yeah zeitgeist isn't that suppose to be another one of these so called problems? | 22:09 |
| Xgates | zeitgeist I see in Peppermint will uninstall rather easily without killing the system, not so sure it's that easy to take out in Ubuntu... | 22:11 |
| Xgates | well I just ripped out all of zeitgeist out of Peppermint easily, the only real loss maybe to someone was gedit was attached to some of it... | 22:20 |
| zleap | i can never remember waht zeitgeiest is | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | Anywho, do you have a Lubuntu support question? | 22:20 |
| Xgates | Unit193: will all of zeitgeist come out of Lubuntu easy, or a lot of deps installed for it? | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | zleap: Database. | 22:21 |
| zleap | ok thanks | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | Xgates: Should be easy. | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | Catfish might be the only thing. | 22:21 |
| Xgates | oh yeah catfish too | 22:21 |
| Xgates | zleap: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_%28framework%29 | 22:21 |
| Xgates | framework that logs the users's activities and events, | 22:22 |
| ianorlin | there is no zeitgiest installed on sacuy | 22:32 |
| * Unit193 didn't see one. | 22:33 | |
| ianorlin | also Xgates be careful when installing things as something can still pull it in as a depenency if you don't want zeitgeist | 22:34 |
| Xgates | yeah sure I know... | 22:45 |
| Xgates | well I think I'm going to make a clonezilla backup of peppermint and then take Lubuntu for a spin... | 22:46 |
| Xgates | maybe bbl guys... | 22:46 |
| Xgates | cheers :) | 22:46 |
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| Raghh | Hey guys and girls, i have an issue with my new laptop! I installed W7 Ulitmate(well yea, thats an issue itself). Anyhow! When trying to install Ubuntu, the installer cant seem to detect the SSD i want to install on... :( any suggestions? | 23:37 |
| holstein | Raghh: sure.. maybe a windows channel | 23:38 |
| Raghh | why would a windows channel help me with a Linux issue? :) | 23:38 |
| holstein | or, are you saying when installing ubuntu? | 23:38 |
| holstein | Raghh: you are installing ubuntu? and you cant see the ssd? | 23:38 |
| Raghh | exactly | 23:39 |
| Raghh | its the same SSD which are running Windows... but i have done this before, on my desktop with no issues | 23:39 |
| holstein | Raghh: im over where you have cross posted now.. | 23:39 |
| Raghh | haha yea, i didnt get an answer of #Ubuntu, so figured i would try a few others :p | 23:39 |
| Raghh | But yea, the thing is i installed W7 first, and afterwards wanted to repartition and install Ubuntu on the same SSD. - But the installer cant detect the SSD, only my 1TB HDD | 23:41 |
| holstein | Raghh: why is windows relevant? | 23:41 |
| holstein | Raghh: you will want to reclaim space.. i would use a live CD and gparted | 23:41 |
| holstein | can you make *any* live CD access the drive with gparted | 23:41 |
| holstein | > | 23:41 |
| holstein | ? | 23:41 |
| Raghh | i am trying to install through my 12.04.4 live CD:) | 23:42 |
| Raghh | but the installer cant see my SSD | 23:42 |
| Raghh | and im not willing to install it on my HDD | 23:42 |
| holstein | Raghh: dont install *anything* right now | 23:43 |
| holstein | Raghh: resize the partion using gparted | 23:43 |
| holstein | Raghh: can you see the drive from *any* live CD in gparted> | 23:43 |
| holstein | ? | 23:43 |
| Raghh | sec lemme reboot the laptop | 23:43 |
| holstein | try a 13.10 based iso.. could be driver related | 23:44 |
| Raghh | 13.10 is bugged =/ so i dont really feel like using it honestly | 23:45 |
| Raghh | i will check if i can see the drive with gparted on the livecd | 23:45 |
| holstein | Raghh: its actually not | 23:46 |
| Raghh | The thing is, the installer detects that Windows is installed, because it gives me the option to "Install along side windows" But whenever i proceed i can only choose my empty drive for storage | 23:46 |
| holstein | 13.10 is the latest version.. supported | 23:46 |
| holstein | its not that the lts is "less buggy". or more stable.. its literally support longer | 23:46 |
| holstein | Raghh: you should be willing to try the 13.10 live CD and see if the installer and/or gparted can see the ssd | 23:47 |
| Raghh | yea, but im outta DVDs atm and its 00:47 atm | 23:47 |
| holstein | Raghh: sure.. when you have patience and time, and want to get tot he bottom of this, let a volunteer know | 23:47 |
| Raghh | rofl, in gparted i can only detect the SSD | 23:50 |
| holstein | Raghh: and? | 23:50 |
| holstein | Raghh: thats what you want, correct? | 23:50 |
| Raghh | its kinda reverse of the installer | 23:50 |
| Raghh | where im only able to detect the HDD | 23:50 |
| holstein | Raghh: what other discs are there? | 23:50 |
| holstein | Raghh: its likely that you havent used gparted, and maybe havent found the disc selection tool? | 23:51 |
| Raghh | 1 mb unallocated, and a 100mb reserved windows partition | 23:51 |
| Raghh | and ofc. my 232GB of SSD space for windows | 23:51 |
| holstein | Raghh: its not going to list them all. theres a dropdown where you select the drive you want to partition | 23:51 |
| Raghh | i see | 23:52 |
| Raghh | but that kinda makes no sense, Linux detects the SSD but im not able to install on it with the installer | 23:53 |
| holstein | Raghh: i dont know that that is true.. i suggeted, and still suggest trying 13.10 | 23:54 |
| holstein | Raghh: it may "just work" out of the box | 23:54 |
| holstein | lubuntu has no LTS, and 12.04 lubuntu is not officially supported any longer | 23:54 |
| Raghh | oh yea, this is not Lubuntu, its just regular ubuntu .. i have a overkill (hardware wise) laptop .. so i figured id just run the whole package | 23:55 |
| holstein | Raghh: you should try 13.10 | 23:55 |
| holstein | to say its "buggy" is just incorrect, and mis-informed | 23:56 |
| Raghh | okay, but i like 12.04 :) therefore thats the OS of my choice | 23:56 |
| holstein | Raghh: enjoy! | 23:56 |
| Raghh | jesus christ | 23:56 |
| holstein | Raghh: please dont do that.. use the #lubuntu-offtopic for OT | 23:56 |
| holstein | it would be advantageous for you, from a troubleshooting perspective, to have tried 13.10 | 23:57 |
| Raghh | 12.04 is the atm LTS and therefore i like that .. i dont want to be forced to reformat or upgrade within a few months.. and honestly i bet they didnt make any major changes to the installer | 23:58 |
| ianorlin | lubunt 12.04 is not lts | 23:58 |
| holstein | no one is forcing anything | 23:59 |
| holstein | Raghh: if you said "i have tried 13.10, and the installer works, but 12.04 doesnt" that would be data | 23:59 |
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