[00:42] Ok, so I'm having graphics glitches with lubuntu on my macbook pro 11" non-retina early 2011 the menus have graphical texture issues and so do the windows and other things [00:43] !macbook [00:43] For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [00:43] !ati [00:43] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [00:43] i tried both of those links [00:43] they dont help with the graphical issues at all [00:43] RileyGuy_: ok.. what have you "tried" from them? [00:43] RileyGuy_: ? [00:43] they don't tell me what to do to fix it, I just want to use my mac for minecraft and a few other things [00:43] thats all [00:44] RileyGuy_: you will read and determine how to "Fix" it.. assuming there is a fix [00:44] i dont wanna have to install this and that and this and that and then get god's autograph to use it [00:44] RileyGuy_: they should have methods by which you can determine both what graphics device you have, and hwat macbook verision you have [00:45] RileyGuy_: you are choosing to do something that is not supported by the hardware you have purchased [00:45] how am i supposed to do this without a mac OS [00:45] RileyGuy_: apple purschased that hardware, and worked with it to make sure osx worked on there. that is what you are agreeing to do.. your own support [00:45] RileyGuy_: you will first start by stating what graphics hardware you have === pepee_ is now known as pepee [00:46] RileyGuy_: if there is a proprietary driver, you can easily try it, and likely clear up any issues easily [00:46] well its a macbook pro 11" early 2011 non-retina [00:46] soo [00:46] im assuming intel graphics? [00:46] RileyGuy_: so.. what graphics driver? [00:46] i dont really know how [00:46] RileyGuy_: please, assume nothing [00:46] how [00:46] do i check [00:47] RileyGuy_: one way you can do that is by running the comand suggested by ianorlin in the other channel.. lspci.. that comand is also suggested in the documentation i linked here [00:47] RileyGuy_: have you opened a terminal and ran the command "lspci" ? [00:47] nvidia corperation [00:47] if so, and you need help understanding the outpu, please use.. [00:47] !paste [00:47] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:47] RileyGuy_: also, at the link i gave.. [00:47] !nvidia | RileyGuy_ [00:47] RileyGuy_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [00:48] is information on providing support for that device [00:48] also can you run cat /proc/cpuinfo [00:48] the nvidia proprietary driver will likely clear up any issues [00:48] it has for me [00:50] RileyGuy_: have you installed, the nvidia driver module from the repos? [00:51] it [00:51] doesnt tell me [00:51] how to install it [00:51] on lubuntu [00:51] only ubuntu [00:51] im this close to just installing windows [00:51] RileyGuy_: sure.. but, lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. the same package namges [00:51] names* [00:51] but not the same stinkin interface [00:52] ive been trying for 2 days [00:52] and it doesnt work [00:52] RileyGuy_: please, know that i am a volunteer.. i dont need what is feeling like a threat [00:52] RileyGuy_: i understand your frustrations [00:52] im not trying to threaten you [00:52] im just very VERY frustrated [00:52] RileyGuy_: but, you had bad hardware. that is not the cause of *any* software [00:52] linux/lubuntu/ubuntu is working as advertised.. it cannot provide you witht he driver you need, due to legal issue with nvidia [00:53] RileyGuy_: you are welcome to install it [00:53] ok [00:53] i [00:53] am done [00:53] you can even relax in chat some on in if you can get to a virtual terminal [00:53] i cant take this anymore [00:53] if you install the right clinet [00:53] RileyGuy_: sure.. enjoy! and keep in mind, you will have this issue in all OS's [00:54] ok [00:54] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.lubuntu.user/3987 will help [00:54] RileyGuy_: its literally like installing a driver package into the kernel. one that we are not allowed to provide you [00:55] ok [00:55] ok [00:55] if i can install teamviewer, will someone help me [00:55] RileyGuy_: someone in #ubuntu might.. this is not lubuntu specific [00:55] ok [00:55] !volunteers [00:55] im [00:55] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [00:55] just gonna install windows 8 now... [00:56] sorry [00:56] RileyGuy_: sure.. enjoy! [00:56] RileyGuy_: you will need drivers there as well [00:56] good luck [00:56] yes [00:56] but it is much easier on windows [00:56] RileyGuy_: you will need to exercise patience at some point [00:56] ive been patient for 2 days [00:56] my patience has run out [00:56] RileyGuy_: thats was due to faulty hardware [00:57] i know [00:57] but like i said [00:57] its easier on windows [00:57] sorry [00:57] RileyGuy_: no.. what you have said is.. you are frustrated that is has taken 2 days to install lubuntu.. and that is not true [00:57] when you came here, and asked me, i sorted out that it was hardware in a mattter of minutes === psei` is now known as psei [00:58] RileyGuy_: and you literally just got installed a few minutes ago.. you are going to have to install drivers one place or the other.. [00:58] RileyGuy_: anyways.. enjoy! and we'll be here if win8 doesnt go as magical as you expect either [00:58] ok [00:58] im just really frustrated and angry [00:59] RileyGuy_: sure. and im just a volunteer.. and you just go here.. so, do what you like and i welcome you back anytie [00:59] anytime* [00:59] thats what this is.. a community of support. its not tech support [00:59] I think windows 8 might be a waste of time as ins't the 2005 mac mini a power pc? [00:59] i know you're only trying to help [01:00] RileyGuy_: trying? we went a long way in the short time you have been here.. [01:00] yes [01:01] you did help [01:01] and im not saying i aint grateful, its just it got me no where in the end and i chose to install windows [01:01] btw the terminal printed some weird matrix stuff ._. [01:02] RileyGuy_: no where would be that.. you have determined *why* you have been wasting time the past 2 days.. you have a hardware issue [01:02] you are at a point where you have one driver issue.. a known issue.. one that has plenty of documentation [01:02] if you want to run win8, go for it.. [01:03] but, lubuntu is working as advertised [01:03] and im not smart enough to fix it [01:03] so thats that [01:03] RileyGuy_: nothing is broken to fix [01:03] the graphics issue [01:03] RileyGuy_: its just a matter of installing a driver.. nothing needs fixed [01:04] which takes commands and moving things around, and doing 12 terminal commands and complicated stuff [01:04] im sorry, but i just don't have anymore patience for this [01:06] RileyGuy_: then, you will nt have better luck with windows [01:07] it requires the same [01:07] maybe, more [01:09] i mean, right now, you have all the other drivers.. and, there *is* an nvidia one available.. are there win8 driver for your hardware? === xorox90___ is now known as xorox90__ === xnox_ is now known as xnox === Pici is now known as Guest56659 === TheLordOfTime is now known as teward === Hukkinen_ is now known as Hukkinen [08:12] * psei is away: AFK [08:33] * psei help [11:55] I can't access my samba shares from lubuntu 13.10 (pcmanfm 1.1.2) - anybody got any ideas for a fix? [16:24] hello again. really small question this time....... is there a package i can install so I can take screenshot like ubuntu does... Like if you hit printscreen it auto macs opens a small editor [16:24] diecastarts: there are many screenshot applications [16:25] yeah I don;t want a application [16:25] Looking for the one that comes pre-installed like the ubuntu one [16:25] diecastarts: package/application. whatever you like to call it.. you need an app [16:26] should be saved in your /home folder [16:27] http://askubuntu.com/questions/184618/taking-screenshots-in-lubuntu-11-10 [16:28] though, i dont use kgrab.. i use scrot [16:28] !info scrot [16:28] scrot (source: scrot): command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-13 (saucy), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB [16:28] but, there are many, the included one that automatically puts the full screen image in your /home, and many installable from the repos.. the same repos main ubuntu uses [16:30] k thanks checking that out [16:30] sure.. enjoy! [22:02] hi guys [22:03] Does Lubuntu have the same Amazon data recording crap going on? [22:03] also the recording of data locally, which is listed under the Privacy section/Tab last I checked in Ubuntu you can turn off... [22:03] Doesn't have unity, thus doesn't have scopes, thus no. [22:04] Not having Unity doesn't mean this does not exsist elementary OS has the data recording crap in it... [22:04] I don't just mean the Amazon stuff... [22:06] I cring now a days at the thought of Ubuntu based distros, all these developers of their own distros shouldn't support Canonical, but probably will never happen... [22:07] What "data recording crap" are you talking about? [22:07] thank GOD I'm not a Linux noob, this isn't for me, and I'm testing out Peppermint which is Debian/Lubuntu based... [22:08] Last I checked in the Ubuntu system preferences it's in the Privacy section... [22:08] Might want to ask them then, what they do could well be different than Lubuntu. [22:08] what who could do? === mihai_c_ is now known as mihai_c [22:08] Peppermint. zeitgeist doesn't ET phone home, either. [22:09] yeah zeitgeist isn't that suppose to be another one of these so called problems? [22:11] zeitgeist I see in Peppermint will uninstall rather easily without killing the system, not so sure it's that easy to take out in Ubuntu... [22:20] well I just ripped out all of zeitgeist out of Peppermint easily, the only real loss maybe to someone was gedit was attached to some of it... [22:20] i can never remember waht zeitgeiest is [22:20] Anywho, do you have a Lubuntu support question? [22:21] Unit193: will all of zeitgeist come out of Lubuntu easy, or a lot of deps installed for it? [22:21] zleap: Database. [22:21] ok thanks [22:21] Xgates: Should be easy. [22:21] Catfish might be the only thing. [22:21] oh yeah catfish too [22:21] zleap: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_%28framework%29 [22:22] framework that logs the users's activities and events, [22:32] there is no zeitgiest installed on sacuy [22:33] * Unit193 didn't see one. [22:34] also Xgates be careful when installing things as something can still pull it in as a depenency if you don't want zeitgeist [22:45] yeah sure I know... [22:46] well I think I'm going to make a clonezilla backup of peppermint and then take Lubuntu for a spin... [22:46] maybe bbl guys... [22:46] cheers :) === Smarty187 is now known as tmager [23:37] Hey guys and girls, i have an issue with my new laptop! I installed W7 Ulitmate(well yea, thats an issue itself). Anyhow! When trying to install Ubuntu, the installer cant seem to detect the SSD i want to install on... :( any suggestions? [23:38] Raghh: sure.. maybe a windows channel [23:38] why would a windows channel help me with a Linux issue? :) [23:38] or, are you saying when installing ubuntu? [23:38] Raghh: you are installing ubuntu? and you cant see the ssd? [23:39] exactly [23:39] its the same SSD which are running Windows... but i have done this before, on my desktop with no issues [23:39] Raghh: im over where you have cross posted now.. [23:39] haha yea, i didnt get an answer of #Ubuntu, so figured i would try a few others :p [23:41] But yea, the thing is i installed W7 first, and afterwards wanted to repartition and install Ubuntu on the same SSD. - But the installer cant detect the SSD, only my 1TB HDD [23:41] Raghh: why is windows relevant? [23:41] Raghh: you will want to reclaim space.. i would use a live CD and gparted [23:41] can you make *any* live CD access the drive with gparted [23:41] > [23:41] ? [23:42] i am trying to install through my 12.04.4 live CD:) [23:42] but the installer cant see my SSD [23:42] and im not willing to install it on my HDD [23:43] Raghh: dont install *anything* right now [23:43] Raghh: resize the partion using gparted [23:43] Raghh: can you see the drive from *any* live CD in gparted> [23:43] ? [23:43] sec lemme reboot the laptop [23:44] try a 13.10 based iso.. could be driver related [23:45] 13.10 is bugged =/ so i dont really feel like using it honestly [23:45] i will check if i can see the drive with gparted on the livecd [23:46] Raghh: its actually not [23:46] The thing is, the installer detects that Windows is installed, because it gives me the option to "Install along side windows" But whenever i proceed i can only choose my empty drive for storage [23:46] 13.10 is the latest version.. supported [23:46] its not that the lts is "less buggy". or more stable.. its literally support longer [23:47] Raghh: you should be willing to try the 13.10 live CD and see if the installer and/or gparted can see the ssd [23:47] yea, but im outta DVDs atm and its 00:47 atm [23:47] Raghh: sure.. when you have patience and time, and want to get tot he bottom of this, let a volunteer know [23:50] rofl, in gparted i can only detect the SSD [23:50] Raghh: and? [23:50] Raghh: thats what you want, correct? [23:50] its kinda reverse of the installer [23:50] where im only able to detect the HDD [23:50] Raghh: what other discs are there? [23:51] Raghh: its likely that you havent used gparted, and maybe havent found the disc selection tool? [23:51] 1 mb unallocated, and a 100mb reserved windows partition [23:51] and ofc. my 232GB of SSD space for windows [23:51] Raghh: its not going to list them all. theres a dropdown where you select the drive you want to partition [23:52] i see [23:53] but that kinda makes no sense, Linux detects the SSD but im not able to install on it with the installer [23:54] Raghh: i dont know that that is true.. i suggeted, and still suggest trying 13.10 [23:54] Raghh: it may "just work" out of the box [23:54] lubuntu has no LTS, and 12.04 lubuntu is not officially supported any longer [23:55] oh yea, this is not Lubuntu, its just regular ubuntu .. i have a overkill (hardware wise) laptop .. so i figured id just run the whole package [23:55] Raghh: you should try 13.10 [23:56] to say its "buggy" is just incorrect, and mis-informed [23:56] okay, but i like 12.04 :) therefore thats the OS of my choice [23:56] Raghh: enjoy! [23:56] jesus christ [23:56] Raghh: please dont do that.. use the #lubuntu-offtopic for OT [23:57] it would be advantageous for you, from a troubleshooting perspective, to have tried 13.10 [23:58] 12.04 is the atm LTS and therefore i like that .. i dont want to be forced to reformat or upgrade within a few months.. and honestly i bet they didnt make any major changes to the installer [23:58] lubunt 12.04 is not lts [23:59] no one is forcing anything [23:59] Raghh: if you said "i have tried 13.10, and the installer works, but 12.04 doesnt" that would be data