[17:00] <cantstanya> how would the dispatch of systemd work
[17:01] <cantstanya> would it affect a certain version an up?
[17:01] <cantstanya> what about the currently released version
[17:01] <cantstanya> or the LTS versions not yet EOL'd
[17:21] <Aleksei__> cantstanya: I highly doubt that switch to systemd happens in either existing or next LTS. Integrating systemd is neither easy nor nondisruptive, which doesn't fit the LTS release purpose. Besides, upstart works reasonably well, so no need to hurry.
[17:22] <cantstanya> So it would most likely be: it releases on a certain version, and only subsequent versions will have it, LTS versions will still have upstart?
[17:23] <cantstanya> s/LTS/prior &/
[17:26] <Aleksei__> Yes.
[17:27] <cantstanya> so suffice to say it's not a concern for at least 12.04 and 14.04
[17:27] <cantstanya> okay
[17:30] <Aleksei__> Most probably some version will have systemd as an option alongside upstart, but changing the default is unlikely to happen soon. Certanly not before Debian does.
[17:31] <cantstanya> but LTS wise said option probably won't be on 12.04 or 14.04, right?
[17:40] <Aleksei__> Well, you *can* install systemd from the PPA, and it will mostly work. But to place it in main it needs to meet some quality standards, which is unlikely until Debian systemd maintainers do the work.
[17:41] <Aleksei__> It isn't even in the universe yet, so it's a long way to go...
[17:53] <cantstanya> My inquiry was mostly towards inclusion in main; if it somehow made it there by 14.04 (even as an option), I would have people transition, but I'm not suggesting a PPA.
[17:54] <cantstanya> but I think you answered everything, so thanks.
[17:54] <cantstanya> Aleksei__: ^