[16:42] <raevol> happy Friday!
[17:29] <philipballew> raevol, hey dude!
[17:29] <philipballew> hope all is well.
[17:44] <raevol> philipballew: yoyo! all good here, hope you're well too!
[19:21] <nhaines> Yay Friday!
[19:23] <nhaines> So the really big news today is that Ubuntu is going to transition to systemd over the next couple of years.
[19:23] <pleia2> inorite
[19:23] <pleia2> crazy times!
[19:24] <nhaines> Maybe there's a GR that flips to upstart in the next week?
[19:24] <pleia2> we had the pleasure of having one of the debian systemd guys in town and attending our debian dinner, he doesn't believe there will be a GR
[19:25] <nhaines> I don't actually *care* what init system Ubuntu uses except that I know all the Unity 8 mobile app lifecycle stuff is Upstart-based and they've been pouring *tons* of time into it the past couple months.
[19:25] <pleia2> most people serious about debian enough to be able to propose and support a GR realize the damage it could do to the community at this point (and general uselessness)
[19:26] <pleia2> yeah, I do wonder how it will impact touch stuff
[19:27] <nhaines> I mean, it won't.  Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and 14.10 are still going to ship Upstart.  But maybe by 15.04 we'll start to see the transition.
[19:27] <nhaines> I'm hoping Ubuntu gets lots of tests in for systemd and everyone who uses it benefits that way.
[19:28] <ianorlin> I don't know much about the whole debate
[19:28] <pleia2> ianorlin: if you're bored: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/
[19:28] <darthrobot> Title: [Debate/initsystem - Debian Wiki]
[19:31] <nhaines> pleia2: they should transistion to config.sys and autoexec.bat
[19:32] <pleia2> nhaines: get out
[19:32] <pleia2> :)
[19:32] <nhaines> haha  :)
[19:37] <nhaines> I'm going to update my cell phone plan which will give me the same service but save me $15 a month.
[19:38] <nhaines> And this will also allow me to buy a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile, I think.  Which is handy since my Galaxy Nexus broke, but less handy because Ubuntu doesn't run on it.