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gamerchick02everything is awesomesauce, wolfger. how's it going?00:21
gamerchick02i've not said hi to you in a long time.00:21
greg-g:)00:21
gamerchick02and howdy greg-g00:21
jrwrenthe pvdisplay man page is wrong. *RAGE*00:24
gamerchick02that's unfortunate.00:26
gamerchick02:(00:26
wolfgerhey gamerchick02 I was just asking about you the other day. Still working at Chrysler?00:36
gamerchick02i sure am!00:36
gamerchick02i'm still in Auburn Hills, still at my apartment, and still in the same department.00:36
gamerchick02i'd like to move to engineering but we'll see. it's been busy with the new MP/M1/M4 program that's ramping up.00:37
gamerchick02i'm not online during the day because my ID doesn't give me regular net access. it's fine, really... :-P00:37
wolfgerHeheheh00:38
jrwrenhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/128003700:38
jrwrenvote that it effects you, even if it doesn't... plz :)00:38
wolfgerI moved on, sort of. I now work for Sandalwood, but doing more or less exactly the same job as before. I'm just strictly project based now, with the possibility of working for, say, Ford if there are no current projects from Chrysler00:39
gamerchick02oh. that's interesting!00:39
gamerchick02you like it?00:39
gamerchick02i'm still mucking in codep00:40
gamerchick02i can hardly wait til destination comes out and we can migrate away from codep. java is hinky00:40
gamerchick02or at least the oracle thing we use is hinky00:41
gamerchick02jrwren, i don't even know what that bug is about. :(00:41
wolfgerIf the bug makes jrwren unhappy, it affects me! ;-)00:42
wolfgerIt's much nicer than the old contract job. Sandalwood treats its people very well, and actually cares about them.00:42
jrwrengamerchick02: I've been a linux admin for nearly 20yrs now :p00:43
gamerchick02that's awesome, jrwren. :)00:43
gamerchick02and that's awesome, wolfger. RGBSI isn't so bad. i'd like to get into chrysler-fiat proper00:43
wolfgerYou mean FCTP? (I know, it's supposed to be FCA, but that is *not* an A in the logo, it's a teepee)00:46
gamerchick02i dont' know who came up with that.00:46
gamerchick02it's a dumb logo.00:46
gamerchick02if i say so myself. ahem.00:50
gamerchick02i understand what it means, but still.00:50
cmaloneymorning11:06
wolfgermorning11:16
rick_h_morning11:27
wolfgerA lively crowd on a Friday...12:21
rick_h_yea, party party12:22
rick_h_TGIF12:22
rick_h_and all that12:22
cmaloneyYeah, can't wait for this week to be over. ;)12:30
wolfgerFriday is just one day closer to having to fly back to Mexico. :-p12:32
cmaloneywolfger: when are you headed back?12:34
wolfgerMonday12:35
cmaloneyoh fun12:35
cmaloneyso Sunday is make sure I have everything squared away day.12:35
wolfgerTwo weeks down, one week home.12:35
cmaloneyThat's no fun12:35
wolfgerEventually it will be two down, four home. That will be nice.12:37
wolfgerAnd Mexico is warm, and good for the wallet, so there is a bright side or two12:38
wolfgerI just hate travel12:38
cmaloneywolfger: I don't think there's anyone on the planet that enjoys travel12:45
cmaloneyanyone sane that is.12:45
wolfgerI'm not sure I know any sane people. I mean, a number of us look normal on the surface, but then you realize they actually *like* tiling wm's and such....12:50
brouschI don't use a tiling WM, just Kubuntu12:53
wolfgerJust like me. And I know I'm not right in the head ;-)12:56
brouschYou don't seem so bad12:57
brouschThough I don't think we've ever met in meatspace12:57
wolfgerHeheh. Thanks!12:57
wolfgerSo you should come to Penguicon and rectify that12:58
brouschOK, I guess you are messed up. No sane person attends Penguicon13:12
rick_h_bingo!13:13
wolfgerLOL13:15
cmaloneyhttp://shop.oreilly.com/category/deals/valentines-day.do?code=DEAL13:21
cmaloneyAll pink books on sale13:22
* wolfger shakes his head13:24
brouschI got a free copy of The Python cookbook as a give away at GRPUG. Flipping through it, it's a pretty good book13:25
brouschBasically 1 page per concept with example code and discussion13:25
rick_h_yea he did a good job on it13:26
brouschThey should turn it into a phone-friendly app/ebook. Would be great for bathroom reading13:26
brouschOooh, the early release Kivy book is $1013:27
jrwrenhttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316  great leadership14:51
rick_h_yep, honestly the guys dealing with that have done great all around14:54
rick_h_<314:54
jrwreni agree14:58
jrwrenand its perfect timing IMO14:58
jrwrenupstart and systemd have both matured to the point that there isn't a reason for both to continue forward. Time to pick one.14:58
brouschNot perfect. Perfect would be systemd default in 14.0414:59
rick_h_yea, not quite14:59
jrwrenbrousch: you want it and you want it now :)15:00
rick_h_get an LTS out and give 4 cycles to get things adjusted/right15:00
rick_h_that's good timing15:00
brousch4 cycles!15:01
rick_h_LTS->LTS baby15:02
jrwrencant' you just throw 10 people at it and get it done in 4/10 of a cycle?15:04
rick_h_feature freeze is next week...no15:07
brouschThat's 7 days! Plenty of time15:07
akellingRIP upstart15:47
rick_h_well how it goes away is still TBD15:47
akellingI am probley the only one who would rather have rc style startup scripts....15:49
akellingThey are easy to understand and light weight.15:49
greg-gwait, it's going away?16:14
greg-goh, /me looks at sabdfl's blog16:15
* greg-g just got online16:15
greg-gwow16:17
greg-gcool16:17
greg-gwell done mark16:17
rick_h_<3 https://twitter.com/fjsteele/status/43424993531661516817:36
=== UnFixed is now known as UnFixed_
wolfgerrick_h_: that is awesome19:06
=== UnFixed_ is now known as UnFixed
rick_h_a lifestyle pusher? cmaloney you shame me. What about tool appreciator? Productibity afficionado?20:08
cmaloneyhah20:10
cmaloneyI dunno...20:10
cmaloneyTiling Window Managers20:11
cmaloneyWoodworking.20:11
cmaloneyStanding Desks that go up and down20:11
cmaloneyThat one I havent done yet although I'm sitting on my ball20:12
rick_h_I did do the ball first :P20:12
cmaloney(bouncing, more like).20:12
cmaloneyYeah, I know20:12
cmaloneyhttp://decafbad.net/2013/02/09/sitting-on-my-ball-chair/20:15
cmaloneyHUh, I've been doing this for a year.20:16
cmaloneyHappy anniversary ball chair20:16
rick_h_nice20:16
brouschcmaloney: Have you experienced any positive effects?20:23
cmaloneybrousch: a bit20:23
cmaloneyI still have a gut20:23
cmaloneyI still slouch a bit20:23
brouschWell damn. I was hoping for a magic cure for that20:23
cmaloneyOn the plus side, my back doesn't hurt anymore20:24
cmaloneyand my gut muscles are engaged throughout the day20:24
cmaloneyit does encourage bouncing though20:25
brouschI bounce my legs all day20:29
cmaloneybrousch: I didn't realize you were a drummer too.20:30
brouschI'm not20:30
cmaloneyWell you're half-way there20:30
brouschI lean back a lot. I think the ball would make me less lazy20:30
cmaloneyThat it does20:31
cmaloneyIt does take some time to "adjust" though20:31
cmaloneyAnd during the summer if you wear shorts you will sweat against it20:31
cmaloneyI don't tend to wear shorts much20:32
cmaloneyas evidenced by my chicken-legs that could pass for white-meat.20:32
brouschWhat ballchair are you using? Is that the rick_h_ approved ballchair?20:33
brouschNo shorts at work20:33
cmaloneyI'm using the Gaim one20:33
brouschGaiam?20:33
cmaloneyhttp://www.amazon.com/Gaiam-Balance-Ball-Chair-Black/dp/B0007VB4NE20:33
cmaloneyYeah, that one.20:33
brouschGa I am?20:33
cmaloneyhttp://www.amazon.com/Isokinetics-Inc-Brand-Fitness-Chair/dp/B000VK5MRU/ref=pd_sim_sg_520:33
brouschDecent price20:33
cmaloneyIf I were to do it again I'd probably get the isokinetics one20:34
cmaloneyThat one is adjustible20:34
cmaloneyand the back is usable20:34
cmaloneythe gaiam one doesn't have a usable back rest20:35
cmaloneyit's mostly to keep you from killing yourself should you lean back20:35
cmaloneyThere's a bar on the front of the Gaiam chair that's supposed to keep the ball in place. That broke off on mine20:36
cmaloneybut the well is enough that it keeps it in place20:36
brouschI have to determine if the benefits outweigh the constant ribbing from coworkers20:36
cmaloneyI think that's to keep the ball from popping out if you use it for exercises and what-not20:36
brouschhttp://www.amazon.com/Isokinetics-Inc-Brand-Fitness-Chair/dp/B00FAY1BRW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1392410133&sr=8-5&keywords=ball+chair20:36
cmaloneybrousch: You'll get ribbed. no doubt about it.20:37
brouschI got ribbed a lot when I was standing20:37
brouschBut now I'll be sitting on my balls all day20:37
wolfger...21:03
wolfgerI go back to what I said earlier today21:04
wolfgerI don't think I know any sane people21:04
brouschrick_h_: No snow on the ground in Portland, OR, and they are not affected by the drought in CA. It really does look like paradise21:18
rick_h_brousch: +121:19
brousch8 years ago I was offered a job in Eugene21:19

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