| wrst | Omnifrog: how is the new arrival doing? | 02:38 |
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| wrst | howdy chris4585 | 02:38 |
| chris4585 | hey wrst | 02:39 |
| wrst | all going well chris4585? | 02:51 |
| chris4585 | wrst, yes, thanks for asking | 02:59 |
| wrst | great | 02:59 |
| chris4585 | wrst, yourself? | 03:12 |
| wrst | Unit193: looks like ubuntu is headed to systemd also | 15:30 |
| FredN | hello TNteam | 17:40 |
| FredN | new member here | 17:41 |
| twayneprice | Hey FredN . Welcome to Nashville. :) | 17:41 |
| FredN | thanks | 17:42 |
| wrst | hello FredN | 18:21 |
| FredN | hi, glad to be a part of the team | 18:23 |
| wrst | FredN: Friday treating you well? | 18:24 |
| FredN | yes, very well, it's a long weekend for me | 19:00 |
| FredN | you? | 19:00 |
| wrst | not a long weekend for me, but my wife (teacher) will be rubbing it in all weekend | 19:01 |
| FredN | heh, my wife and i are both teachers | 19:03 |
| wrst | ahh makes sense, my wife teaches kindergarten | 19:04 |
| FredN | music here | 19:06 |
| wrst | sweet | 19:07 |
| wrst | something that gets way too forgotten in all the no child left behind, common core, etc | 19:07 |
| FredN | indeed, which is more or less what brings me to the ubuntu community et al | 19:08 |
| wrst | really? | 19:09 |
| wrst | I get a little frustrated when people speak about math scores this or that and they cut music to help math and that's being entirely counter intuitive | 19:09 |
| FredN | well on one hand the district i teach in could greatly benefit from using open source software | 19:10 |
| FredN | instead of wasting precious resources for the same effect | 19:11 |
| FredN | on the other, i don't know if "fighting the good fight" is for me | 19:12 |
| FredN | but we'll see | 19:12 |
| wrst | I think you have to choose your battles | 19:12 |
| FredN | definitely true | 19:13 |
| FredN | at this point, i am just finally pursuing a long time interest | 19:13 |
| wrst | I'm not an open source worshipper however so I choose the practical route most of the time | 19:13 |
| wrst | so FredN you running/using linux? | 19:13 |
| FredN | ubuntu LTS on my laptop | 19:14 |
| wrst | cool | 19:15 |
| FredN | used to be a windows machine, my wife downloaded every piece of malware she could find lol | 19:15 |
| FredN | couldn't recover | 19:16 |
| wrst | ha ha I know the feeling | 19:16 |
| FredN | so i switched to ubuntu | 19:16 |
| FredN | got a mac desktop | 19:16 |
| FredN | everything is safe so far | 19:16 |
| wrst | I run Arch Linux on my laptop, have my mom on Ubuntu | 19:16 |
| wrst | yep my wife is an iFanatic so she has a macbook | 19:16 |
| FredN | i was debating between MInt and Ubuntu | 19:17 |
| FredN | Ubuntu seems easier for newbs like me | 19:17 |
| FredN | at least easier to find support | 19:18 |
| FredN | but i'm getting the hang of it | 19:18 |
| FredN | trying to use the terminal a little more | 19:18 |
| wrst | FredN: lots of people in here really good providing support so don't hesitate to ask | 19:19 |
| wrst | Unit193: is pretty much expert on all things ubuntu and cyberanger as well | 19:19 |
| FredN | great | 19:19 |
| * cyberanger isn't a fan of unity either | 19:20 | |
| wrst | and I can really help you mess things up if you want help doing that :) | 19:20 |
| cyberanger | so bonus points if it's xubuntu, lubuntu or kubuntu | 19:20 |
| cyberanger | and a real win for ubuntu server | 19:20 |
| FredN | no bonus points for me :/ | 19:21 |
| wrst | ha ha FredN cyberanger is hard core | 19:21 |
| wrst | :) | 19:21 |
| cyberanger | FredN: that's ok, just like who's line, the points don't matter ;-) | 19:21 |
| FredN | ha | 19:22 |
| wrst | FredN: I'm assuming you are a musician since you teach music, tried any of the recording software like ardour or audacity ? | 19:22 |
| wrst | or looked at ubuntu studio ? | 19:22 |
| FredN | looked at audacity once, haven't needed them yet | 19:23 |
| wrst | prety neat stuff, we use audacity to record at church with good results especially considering what I'm running it on | 19:24 |
| FredN | yea since we have the mac, i use garageband from time to time | 19:25 |
| FredN | to play with myself for lack of a better phrase | 19:25 |
| wrst | ha ha | 19:25 |
| wrst | we used that a few weeks ago to create a loop worked pretty well, a little limiting but really quick and sounded nice | 19:26 |
| cyberanger | FredN: solo practice might be that better word | 19:31 |
| cyberanger | but is it really practice if your just jamming | 19:31 |
| FredN | more like playing all parts of a quartet | 19:32 |
| FredN | but i do play jazz | 19:33 |
| wrst | well, FredN you are way over my head musically :) | 19:33 |
| cyberanger | Nice, I'm more of a rock fan, but I love Jazz & Blues too | 19:34 |
| cyberanger | probally my second favorite genre | 19:35 |
| FredN | that's ok you guys are way over my head technologically | 19:35 |
| wrst | oh I'm probably not :) | 19:35 |
| * cyberanger whistles innocently while trying to decide how to reply there | 19:37 | |
| wrst | ha | 19:37 |
| cyberanger | still, sometimes you want real instruments, no sampling, no synthisizers | 19:38 |
| cyberanger | and you need talent there too | 19:38 |
| FredN | being a trombone player sets me pretty firmly in the acoustic category | 19:38 |
| cyberanger | I listen to real talent on pandora while fixing firewalls & such (my real talent I guess) | 19:39 |
| FredN | though i once saw a jazz guy from CO go to town through a crazy electric setup | 19:39 |
| wrst | I'm too out of shape for that :) | 19:39 |
| wrst | even if my wife does say I'm full of hot air | 19:39 |
| FredN | haha | 19:40 |
| cyberanger | I've heard some acoustic stuff that I thought sounded better than the main track | 19:40 |
| FredN | it's all about efficiency | 19:40 |
| cyberanger | just becuase of how they had to adapt to playing with no post production | 19:41 |
| FredN | depends what you want to hear | 19:41 |
| FredN | ear candy (uber-produced, autotuned etc) | 19:41 |
| FredN | or a performance that makes music a human thing | 19:42 |
| wrst | ear candy is not so sweet for my taste | 19:42 |
| cyberanger | true, there's a difference to overlay of vocals, vs dubstep | 19:42 |
| FredN | nothing wrong with tweaking this and that in the studio | 19:42 |
| FredN | but there is a line | 19:42 |
| wrst | agreed | 19:43 |
| cyberanger | yeah, agreed, same as there is nothing wrong with trying something different in a live set (like a radio studio) or show | 19:43 |
| cyberanger | and there's nothing wrong with a good cover like what nirvana did with bowie's the man who sold the world | 19:44 |
| FredN | yep | 19:44 |
| cyberanger | I can tell you must really like teaching music | 19:47 |
| cyberanger | still have passion for it, those were the teachers I liked, easier to enjoy it without the burnout | 19:48 |
| cyberanger | easier to learn what you enjoy | 19:48 |
| Unit193 | wrst: I don't know *Ubuntu* hardly at all, never use Unity. And where did you see the sysd bit? | 19:51 |
| wrst | Unit193: check shuttleworth's blog | 19:51 |
| FredN | well i will always have passion for music and teaching music, fortunately the public school system is not the only avenue | 19:52 |
| wrst | Unit193: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Hah, with how much you like it and all, you sure look at that thing more than I do. :P | 19:54 |
| wrst | I follow jono bacon on G+ I'm not antibuntu Unit193 :P | 19:54 |
| wrst | and that makes me like it more actually | 19:54 |
| Unit193 | I don't. :P | 19:55 |
| cyberanger | FredN: yeah, that helps, public school half my life, boarding school the other half | 19:56 |
| cyberanger | and you'll notice, we're not a typical loco, some of us are bigger fans of other distros | 19:57 |
| cyberanger | I don't think any are anti-ubuntu, just preferences shift over time | 19:57 |
| wrst | yep but we all use, support, and install ubuntu in some way or fashion | 19:58 |
| * Unit193 mainly Xubuntu. | 19:58 | |
| cyberanger | well, or we fake it at least >:-) | 19:58 |
| FredN | i can imagine i will change tastes over time, ubuntu is just the part of the pool where i got my feet wet | 19:59 |
| cyberanger | Ubuntu Server, Debian custom builds (Ubuntu is based off the Debian distro) and Kali linux (also based off of Debian) | 19:59 |
| cyberanger | wrst will tell you to forget getting your feet wet, just jump in the deep end with arch linux | 20:00 |
| cyberanger | well, actually wrst won't, but many arch users do say stuff like that | 20:00 |
| wrst | yeah arch users that say that aren't real bright :) | 20:01 |
| FredN | hah | 20:01 |
| wrst | I think for sane people ubuntu is really good and debian also if you want something a little different sometime | 20:01 |
| FredN | so i would like to contribute more than being an enthusiastic user | 20:02 |
| FredN | been searching around for a place to start | 20:02 |
| cyberanger | that depends on skillset to a point, can you code, translate, document, have the paitence for support etc. | 20:04 |
| cyberanger | I can barely do one of those things | 20:04 |
| wrst | FredN: just as you ask that question, this comes across my twitter feed: http://ubuntusense.com/2014/02/14/ubuntu-documentation-day-2014/ | 20:05 |
| FredN | haha yea, skills are limited | 20:06 |
| FredN | wrst: thanks | 20:07 |
| FredN | seems like what i'm looking for | 20:07 |
| cyberanger | skills maybe limited, but the bigger issue is when even limited skills are wasted | 20:08 |
| cyberanger | or some saying like that | 20:08 |
| * cyberanger tries to recall that saying from middle school | 20:09 | |
| cyberanger | gotta love znc | 22:07 |
| * wrst points cyberanger to quassel | 22:08 | |
| * cyberanger points rifle at quassel | 22:10 | |
| * cyberanger holds fire, checks for hunting permit | 22:10 | |
| cyberanger | wrst: how do you use a webchat client with quassel | 22:11 |
| wrst | I don't, just use my phone if i'm in that need | 22:13 |
| wrst | but don't think that is possible | 22:13 |
| cyberanger | not only is that possible with znc, I have kiwi irc setup just for that reason | 22:13 |
| wrst | yep because znc is just an irc server that connects to another irc server :) | 22:14 |
| cyberanger | exactly, only now it's one that does so securely without errors (which would have annoyed anyone I may offer an account for it | 22:15 |
| wrst | cool :) | 22:15 |
| cyberanger | but I'll still keep an eye on the cert, despite having a valid and "trusted" CA sign it) | 22:15 |
| cyberanger | FredN: one thing you'll notice about me, I am a bit overkill with security | 22:16 |
| FredN | better safe than sorry i say | 22:17 |
| * cyberanger isn't paranoid, it's just...well....everybody is out to get me, that's all | 22:17 | |
| wrst | ha :) | 22:17 |
| * cyberanger might want to back off that joke a little, use it too much and people might forget it's a joke | 22:18 | |
| cyberanger | wrst: tried smuxi | 22:19 |
| cyberanger | ? | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | Sounded interesting actually, just don't like that it's mono. | 22:20 |
| wrst | yes | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | ncurses, gtk, and qt UIs. | 22:20 |
| wrst | you would think I would love it since its gtk | 22:20 |
| wrst | but harder to set up | 22:20 |
| wrst | so never been motivated to learn | 22:20 |
| wrst | also not for sure on an android client? | 22:23 |
| cyberanger | not sure either, ncurses is my ideal client, but then I gotta have something for android (andchat in my case) and days where I'm not at my computer for one reason or another (kiwi irc or pchat portable) | 22:25 |
| cyberanger | znc meets this best since it's able to be used with anything | 22:25 |
| wrst | yep and with znc could use a native android client | 22:25 |
| cyberanger | or pick up an iphone or windows phone, or even just a feature phone and install any irc client and go (why would I ever do any of this, maybe I'm in a jam and a used blackberry was cheap) | 22:28 |
| cyberanger | just saying, I like keeping options open | 22:29 |
| FredN | so i'm using xchat | 22:38 |
| FredN | seems super basic compared to quassel | 22:38 |
| FredN | but i haven't looked into any of xchat's features yet either | 22:40 |
| wrst | Omnifrog: all doing well? | 23:41 |
| Omnifrog | hi wrst | 23:44 |
| Omnifrog | recovering well from the snowpocalypse | 23:44 |
| Omnifrog | how's the frozen tundra there? | 23:45 |
| * cyberanger debates that, but conceeds it's unusual down there | 23:45 | |
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