[02:38] Omnifrog: how is the new arrival doing? [02:38] howdy chris4585 [02:39] hey wrst [02:51] all going well chris4585? [02:59] wrst, yes, thanks for asking [02:59] great [03:12] wrst, yourself? [15:30] Unit193: looks like ubuntu is headed to systemd also [17:40] hello TNteam [17:41] new member here [17:41] Hey FredN . Welcome to Nashville. :) [17:42] thanks [18:21] hello FredN [18:23] hi, glad to be a part of the team [18:24] FredN: Friday treating you well? [19:00] yes, very well, it's a long weekend for me [19:00] you? [19:01] not a long weekend for me, but my wife (teacher) will be rubbing it in all weekend [19:03] heh, my wife and i are both teachers [19:04] ahh makes sense, my wife teaches kindergarten [19:06] music here [19:07] sweet [19:07] something that gets way too forgotten in all the no child left behind, common core, etc [19:08] indeed, which is more or less what brings me to the ubuntu community et al [19:09] really? [19:09] I get a little frustrated when people speak about math scores this or that and they cut music to help math and that's being entirely counter intuitive [19:10] well on one hand the district i teach in could greatly benefit from using open source software [19:11] instead of wasting precious resources for the same effect [19:12] on the other, i don't know if "fighting the good fight" is for me [19:12] but we'll see [19:12] I think you have to choose your battles [19:13] definitely true [19:13] at this point, i am just finally pursuing a long time interest [19:13] I'm not an open source worshipper however so I choose the practical route most of the time [19:13] so FredN you running/using linux? [19:14] ubuntu LTS on my laptop [19:15] cool [19:15] used to be a windows machine, my wife downloaded every piece of malware she could find lol [19:16] couldn't recover [19:16] ha ha I know the feeling [19:16] so i switched to ubuntu [19:16] got a mac desktop [19:16] everything is safe so far [19:16] I run Arch Linux on my laptop, have my mom on Ubuntu [19:16] yep my wife is an iFanatic so she has a macbook [19:17] i was debating between MInt and Ubuntu [19:17] Ubuntu seems easier for newbs like me [19:18] at least easier to find support [19:18] but i'm getting the hang of it [19:18] trying to use the terminal a little more [19:19] FredN: lots of people in here really good providing support so don't hesitate to ask [19:19] Unit193: is pretty much expert on all things ubuntu and cyberanger as well [19:19] great [19:20] * cyberanger isn't a fan of unity either [19:20] and I can really help you mess things up if you want help doing that :) [19:20] so bonus points if it's xubuntu, lubuntu or kubuntu [19:20] and a real win for ubuntu server [19:21] no bonus points for me :/ [19:21] ha ha FredN cyberanger is hard core [19:21] :) [19:21] FredN: that's ok, just like who's line, the points don't matter ;-) [19:22] ha [19:22] FredN: I'm assuming you are a musician since you teach music, tried any of the recording software like ardour or audacity ? [19:22] or looked at ubuntu studio ? [19:23] looked at audacity once, haven't needed them yet [19:24] prety neat stuff, we use audacity to record at church with good results especially considering what I'm running it on [19:25] yea since we have the mac, i use garageband from time to time [19:25] to play with myself for lack of a better phrase [19:25] ha ha [19:26] we used that a few weeks ago to create a loop worked pretty well, a little limiting but really quick and sounded nice [19:31] FredN: solo practice might be that better word [19:31] but is it really practice if your just jamming [19:32] more like playing all parts of a quartet [19:33] but i do play jazz [19:33] well, FredN you are way over my head musically :) [19:34] Nice, I'm more of a rock fan, but I love Jazz & Blues too [19:35] probally my second favorite genre [19:35] that's ok you guys are way over my head technologically [19:35] oh I'm probably not :) [19:37] * cyberanger whistles innocently while trying to decide how to reply there [19:37] ha [19:38] still, sometimes you want real instruments, no sampling, no synthisizers [19:38] and you need talent there too [19:38] being a trombone player sets me pretty firmly in the acoustic category [19:39] I listen to real talent on pandora while fixing firewalls & such (my real talent I guess) [19:39] though i once saw a jazz guy from CO go to town through a crazy electric setup [19:39] I'm too out of shape for that :) [19:39] even if my wife does say I'm full of hot air [19:40] haha [19:40] I've heard some acoustic stuff that I thought sounded better than the main track [19:40] it's all about efficiency [19:41] just becuase of how they had to adapt to playing with no post production [19:41] depends what you want to hear [19:41] ear candy (uber-produced, autotuned etc) [19:42] or a performance that makes music a human thing [19:42] ear candy is not so sweet for my taste [19:42] true, there's a difference to overlay of vocals, vs dubstep [19:42] nothing wrong with tweaking this and that in the studio [19:42] but there is a line [19:43] agreed [19:43] yeah, agreed, same as there is nothing wrong with trying something different in a live set (like a radio studio) or show [19:44] and there's nothing wrong with a good cover like what nirvana did with bowie's the man who sold the world [19:44] yep [19:47] I can tell you must really like teaching music [19:48] still have passion for it, those were the teachers I liked, easier to enjoy it without the burnout [19:48] easier to learn what you enjoy [19:51] wrst: I don't know *Ubuntu* hardly at all, never use Unity. And where did you see the sysd bit? [19:51] Unit193: check shuttleworth's blog [19:52] well i will always have passion for music and teaching music, fortunately the public school system is not the only avenue [19:53] Unit193: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 [19:54] wrst: Hah, with how much you like it and all, you sure look at that thing more than I do. :P [19:54] I follow jono bacon on G+ I'm not antibuntu Unit193 :P [19:54] and that makes me like it more actually [19:55] I don't. :P [19:56] FredN: yeah, that helps, public school half my life, boarding school the other half [19:57] and you'll notice, we're not a typical loco, some of us are bigger fans of other distros [19:57] I don't think any are anti-ubuntu, just preferences shift over time [19:58] yep but we all use, support, and install ubuntu in some way or fashion [19:58] * Unit193 mainly Xubuntu. [19:58] well, or we fake it at least >:-) [19:59] i can imagine i will change tastes over time, ubuntu is just the part of the pool where i got my feet wet [19:59] Ubuntu Server, Debian custom builds (Ubuntu is based off the Debian distro) and Kali linux (also based off of Debian) [20:00] wrst will tell you to forget getting your feet wet, just jump in the deep end with arch linux [20:00] well, actually wrst won't, but many arch users do say stuff like that [20:01] yeah arch users that say that aren't real bright :) [20:01] hah [20:01] I think for sane people ubuntu is really good and debian also if you want something a little different sometime [20:02] so i would like to contribute more than being an enthusiastic user [20:02] been searching around for a place to start [20:04] that depends on skillset to a point, can you code, translate, document, have the paitence for support etc. [20:04] I can barely do one of those things [20:05] FredN: just as you ask that question, this comes across my twitter feed: http://ubuntusense.com/2014/02/14/ubuntu-documentation-day-2014/ [20:06] haha yea, skills are limited [20:07] wrst: thanks [20:07] seems like what i'm looking for [20:08] skills maybe limited, but the bigger issue is when even limited skills are wasted [20:08] or some saying like that [20:09] * cyberanger tries to recall that saying from middle school [22:07] gotta love znc [22:08] * wrst points cyberanger to quassel [22:10] * cyberanger points rifle at quassel [22:10] * cyberanger holds fire, checks for hunting permit [22:11] wrst: how do you use a webchat client with quassel [22:13] I don't, just use my phone if i'm in that need [22:13] but don't think that is possible [22:13] not only is that possible with znc, I have kiwi irc setup just for that reason [22:14] yep because znc is just an irc server that connects to another irc server :) [22:15] exactly, only now it's one that does so securely without errors (which would have annoyed anyone I may offer an account for it [22:15] cool :) [22:15] but I'll still keep an eye on the cert, despite having a valid and "trusted" CA sign it) [22:16] FredN: one thing you'll notice about me, I am a bit overkill with security [22:17] better safe than sorry i say [22:17] * cyberanger isn't paranoid, it's just...well....everybody is out to get me, that's all [22:17] ha :) [22:18] * cyberanger might want to back off that joke a little, use it too much and people might forget it's a joke [22:19] wrst: tried smuxi [22:20] ? [22:20] Sounded interesting actually, just don't like that it's mono. [22:20] yes [22:20] ncurses, gtk, and qt UIs. [22:20] you would think I would love it since its gtk [22:20] but harder to set up [22:20] so never been motivated to learn [22:23] also not for sure on an android client? [22:25] not sure either, ncurses is my ideal client, but then I gotta have something for android (andchat in my case) and days where I'm not at my computer for one reason or another (kiwi irc or pchat portable) [22:25] znc meets this best since it's able to be used with anything [22:25] yep and with znc could use a native android client [22:28] or pick up an iphone or windows phone, or even just a feature phone and install any irc client and go (why would I ever do any of this, maybe I'm in a jam and a used blackberry was cheap) [22:29] just saying, I like keeping options open [22:38] so i'm using xchat [22:38] seems super basic compared to quassel [22:40] but i haven't looked into any of xchat's features yet either [23:41] Omnifrog: all doing well? [23:44] hi wrst [23:44] recovering well from the snowpocalypse [23:45] how's the frozen tundra there? [23:45] * cyberanger debates that, but conceeds it's unusual down there