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Kiloshi Squirm- psydroid and others05:15
nuvolarihallo oom Kilos 05:43
Kilosmore nuvolari 05:43
nuvolarigaan dit goed oom?05:44
Kilosja dankie seun en jy?05:44
nuvolaridit gaan goed dankie oom05:44
nuvolariek is net bly dit is Vrydag05:44
nuvolariminder bly oor valentynsdag05:44
Kiloshaha05:44
Kilosai!05:45
nuvolarimy rekenaar is nou nie so lekker om te vry soos 'n girl nie05:45
Kiloshahaha05:45
nuvolariwel, as ek nou maar my verbeelding gebruik05:45
Kilosgood morning superfly ThatGraemeGuy  :-)07:01
superflyhi Kilos07:01
magespawngood morning07:08
Squirm-morning07:10
=== Squirm- is now known as Squirm
Kiloshi magespawn 07:10
Kiloshi Xethron 07:22
magespawnso what is up today?07:26
Kilos?07:26
magespawnjust asking what you are doing etc?07:31
Kiloslol07:37
Kilosim running that siggen and hoping to find a noonoo to catch to see what is the best frequency to kill it07:38
Kilosare you catching up with all the installing of stuff yet magespawn ?07:38
Xethronhi Kilos08:00
Vince-0!08:16
magespawnlater all work is calling08:53
charlgood morning09:07
charlMaaz_: coffee on09:07
* Maaz_ puts the kettle on09:07
Kiloshi charl 09:07
KilosMaaz_ coffee please09:07
Maaz_Kilos: Yessir09:07
charlhi Kilos :)09:09
Maaz_Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!09:11
KilosMaaz_ ty09:11
Maaz_You are welcome Kilos09:11
charlMaaz_: thanks09:11
Maaz_charl: Sure09:11
charlhi psyatw 09:20
psyatwhi charl09:21
charl:)09:21
charlhow's it going?09:21
psyatwI am doing fine, thanks :)09:22
Kiloshi psyatw 09:22
psyatwhow are you doing?09:22
psyatwhi Kilos09:22
charli'm doing good09:22
psyatwwb Kilos09:51
psyatwI have one more week to go at my current job09:51
Kiloshehe09:51
charlhow's the apartment hunting going psyatw ?09:53
psyatwcharl, I haven´t really been looking yet to be honest09:53
psyatwbut a few friends have offered to help me out09:53
psyatwand I will have a full week of holidays to go and look for apartments09:53
charlah ok, that should be plenty of time09:55
Kilosty psyatw , going again now to other drive10:20
psyatwwb again Kilos10:28
Kilosty ty10:31
psyatwsolved your problems now?10:34
Kilosi had to go to other drive to find stuff in mail accounts10:38
Kilosfor ian10:38
Kiloshis tower is dead so no internet10:39
KilosMaaz_ telkom mail is <reply> TM-SOC@telkom.co.za10:40
Maaz_Kilos: I already know stuff about telkom mail10:40
Kilosoh10:40
KilosMaaz_ telkom mail10:40
Maaz_TM-SOC@telkom.co.za10:40
Kiloscool10:40
inetprogood mornings12:57
Kiloslol hi there inetpro 13:02
Kilos17mm gisteraand13:03
inetpro1513:13
inetprosaam met lekker donderweer13:14
Kilosja baie en krag af vir hure, toe gaan slaap ek13:52
KilosMaaz_ change nick to Maaz15:07
Maaz_Kilos: Just do it yourself15:07
KilosMaaz_ grrr15:07
Maaz_you tiger you15:07
Kilosinetpro fix it15:07
Kilosyo not_found hows ya15:45
not_foundat work for an additional two nights of fun and zzzzzzzz... so I am ok I guess :) - how are you uncle Kilos 15:46
not_found?15:46
Kilosgood ty lad15:46
not_foundawesome :)15:51
Kilosyeah hehe everything works except for xchat sound but konversation makes a good backup irc client15:51
Kiloshad a look at facebook yesterday. wow become an advert thing15:53
not_foundcool :)15:53
Kiloslotsa nudes and semi nudes for sale15:53
Kiloswhew15:53
Kilosrussian chicks etc15:54
Kiloseeek15:54
not_foundalways handy 15:54
not_found>.<15:54
Kilosi have never fancied fb much but now its getting outa hand15:54
Kilosneed to find a way to block all adverts then it wont be too bad again maybe15:55
Kilosits called progress15:56
=== psyatw is now known as Anunaki
Kilosoh my15:57
=== Anunaki is now known as psyatw
Kiloshaha what happened psyatw 15:58
psyatwKilos, I saw a friend of mine change his nick so I thought I should one up him in that department :)16:29
theblazehenhey Kilos, all17:09
Kiloshi theblazehen 17:21
not_foundhiya theblazehen 17:25
theblazehenhey not_found 17:26
Private_Usertheblazehen: its normally in the last place you look17:38
Private_User:D17:38
theblazehenPrivate_User, lol?17:38
Private_Userhello all, Kilos, not_found, theblazehen 17:39
Kiloshi Private_User 17:40
not_foundalo17:45
Kiloshi smile 17:50
smilehi Kilos :p18:02
Kilos:p18:03
smileit's valentine's day, so no computer anymore :p18:03
Kiloshehe18:03
smilebyebye ;)18:03
Kiloscheers18:03
Kiloshi psydroid 18:27
inetprogood evening18:29
Kiloswb inetpro 18:29
inetprosup Kilos?18:30
Kilosfix the bot man18:30
inetproai!18:31
* inetpro doesn't have full permissions to the bot18:31
Kilosai!18:31
Kilosok then you gotta tune the crash kid18:31
Kilosbut its your job, hence the fix it18:32
Kilosyou might as well because you didnt fix my xchat sound18:32
inetprohmm.18:32
Kilosrofl18:33
theblazehenKilos, crash kid?18:33
Kiloscocooncrash18:33
Kilosthe bots boss18:33
theblazehenah18:34
Kilosbut he has gone over to the yanks so we lost a master18:34
Kiloshe theblazehen you love playing18:35
Kiloshow good is your python18:35
theblazehen"Good enough"18:35
Kiloshmm...18:36
theblazehenBut don't have much time atm, sorry I can't rreally help18:36
Kilosi got a greeter script for ibid bots but it needs work18:36
Kilosmake time18:36
Kilosnot now inna coupla weeks18:36
theblazehenkk18:37
Kiloshi superfly 18:37
Kiloswhatever happened to the guy the works with you that was gonna look at that script18:38
not_foundinetpro , so whats your take on Mark's blog?18:45
theblazehennot_found, the systemd?18:46
not_foundyup18:46
inetpronot_found: kind of sad for upstart 18:46
not_foundseems an obvious move18:46
not_foundas ubuntu derives from debian18:46
Kilosnot_found link?18:46
not_foundupstart was good and did what was needed at the time18:46
inetprobut I guess systemd has improved in the process and is probably a good decision18:47
not_foundKilos http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/131618:47
Kilosty18:47
not_foundand systemd != compatible with anything 18:47
inetproI must be honest, I haven't looked deeply into systemd yet, I liked upstart18:48
not_foundthere was one good post about why systemd was a bad idea... but it was some time ago and I doubt I would find it now18:48
inetprobut then I didn't have to write startup scripts lately18:48
not_foundanyhow it would have alienated ubuntu badly from all the other distro's... worse than mir might18:49
inetprosure18:49
inetproI was surprised to see the posting18:49
inetprothink it's a good move, definitely18:50
not_foundseems it caught many off guard18:50
not_foundwas a tough call for debian18:50
not_foundand I think Canonical handled it correct for a change18:50
not_foundnot that they will be cut any slack :/18:51
not_foundhttps://plus.google.com/114419073019603780828/posts/YqoKZsRBMz818:51
not_foundalso a very good read18:51
inetpromakes a lot of things a lot easier across distros if most of them use the same startup procedures18:52
inetprobut like he says, it will take time18:52
not_foundit is a big chance18:53
not_foundchange*18:53
inetprosad that we are so close to the release of 14.04 LTS18:54
inetprocan't see them using systemd in this release yet18:55
not_foundnope... it will first have to be a stable default in debian in any case... and we all know how long that can take >.<18:56
inetprohmm...18:56
not_foundon an unstable default :p18:57
inetprosure thing, it will have to be stable18:57
not_foundwell ubuntu is based of off "testing" and sid right :p18:58
inetprobig impact decision18:58
inetpronot sure what ubuntu is based on18:59
not_foundafaik lts on testing and the normal release on unstable but I am not so sure now18:59
not_foundnot that it matters to much... it will come when it has18:59
not_foundnot that it will effect me as I don't dabble in the dark arts19:00
inetproin some ways I see ubuntu as a big testing ground 19:01
inetpronow that I looked at Red Hat /  Centos again it feels like stepping back in time19:02
inetprohaving tried and tested stable distros is important for business19:03
superflysystemd first goes into experimental19:05
superflythen it'll migrate back to unstable, then into Ubuntu, and then down into testing and stable19:05
superflyUbuntu won't be using systemd before 14.10 at least19:06
inetprowill be interesting to see the development of systemd19:09
charlgood evening19:10
nuvolario/ ohi19:26
nuvolarianyone around used gradle before?19:26
* not_found saw the G+ post and has never heard of gradle before then :p19:27
not_foundhi charl and nuvolari too :p19:27
Kiloshi nuvolari Golynx 19:28
charlhi not_found 19:29
charlhi Kilos 19:29
charlhi nuvolari 19:29
Kiloshi charl 19:29
charlooh this is good stuff nuvolari 19:30
psydroidhi Kilos 19:31
psydroidhi inetpro 19:31
charlhi psydroid 19:31
psydroidhi theblazehen 19:31
psydroidhi Golynx 19:31
psydroidhi charl 19:31
Kiloslol19:31
charlnuvolari: we're busy with a build automation project at work19:32
psydroidhi nuvolari 19:32
GolynxHi Kilos 19:32
psydroidhi superfly 19:32
psydroidhi not_found 19:32
GolynxHi psydroid19:32
superflyohi everyone19:32
charlnuvolari: we are using maven with jenkins right now19:33
* superfly was busy setting up his fish tank19:33
charlhi superfly 19:33
Golynxhi superfly and charl19:33
Golynxplus Hi not_found19:33
charlhi Golynx 19:34
Golynxhi nuvolari19:34
KilosGolynx did you see the software sig-gen19:34
Golynxsoftware ? Does it have anything like that ?19:35
Kilosit works kiff19:36
Kilosruns a sig-gen from your pc19:36
Golynxoh great19:36
Golynxglad you got it working19:36
Kilosyeah but now to get bugs to keep still long enough to find the frequency for them19:37
Kiloshehe19:37
Golynxthats a tuff one hehe19:38
Kiloslol19:38
Golynxyou can put them in a big glass pot then shoot them with the sig gen and see which frequency they fly from19:39
Kiloslol i cant catch them man they are fast19:39
Golynxyou must be gentle, a fly will sit still if you approuch it slowly, then when your 2 cm away you catch it with a small pot19:41
Kiloslol19:41
nuvolariwhich stuff charl? 19:41
Kilosthese are tiny white fly. similar to fruit fly19:42
nuvolariIMHO gradle is a PITA to start with19:42
nuvolariit's supposedly some silverish bullet19:42
Golynxi can come as close as 1 cm and a fly sits still, lol its crazy but it works :019:42
Golynx:)19:42
Kiloscome right through fly screens19:42
nuvolaribut I'm wrecking my brains trying to do the simplest of things19:42
nuvolariit's not nearly as easy and straight-forward/simple as maven19:42
nuvolariit's like ANT, just without the XML19:43
nuvolaricli-support sucks19:43
nuvolarino tab-completion19:43
nuvolaripretty coloured text output though19:44
Golynxthen make it a small glass pot and catch them, then transfer to the big pot for testing19:44
Kiloshaha19:44
Golynx:)19:44
Kilosand i found my frequency counter19:45
Golynxare you sure it can generate below 40Hz19:45
Kilosbut has to be plugged in with pl259 plugs i think they were called19:45
Kilosthe sig-gen starts at 0khz19:46
nuvolariI don't understand my boss. Fighting maven and git with all his heart in favour of ANT and Subversion, now he wants to go the gradle/git route. Git is great, but nobody on our team used gradle/groovy before19:46
Golynx0khz is 1000Hz :/19:46
not_founder19:46
nuvolarioh?19:46
nuvolari*eh19:46
Kilosstarts lower than that even19:46
nuvolari0khz = 0Hz19:47
not_found+119:47
not_found0Mhz = 0Hz19:47
not_found>.<19:47
nuvolari0GHz = 0Hz19:47
Kilosand scrolls up with mouse scroll wheel19:47
Golynxlol 1khz = 1000hz :p19:47
Kilosvery cool19:47
nuvolari+119:47
nuvolari:P19:47
not_found0jiggawatz = one mcdonalds burger19:48
nuvolarilol!19:48
Kilos0=0 in any language19:48
not_foundcool shaes19:48
nuvolariexcept 1⁰19:48
not_found*shades19:48
nuvolariwait19:48
nuvolariI nearly failed maths19:48
nuvolarilet me shush19:48
nuvolari:P19:48
not_foundthat = 0 right?19:48
not_foundlol19:48
Golynxnuvolari i failed at match :p19:49
Kilosdefault setting is 440hz19:49
nuvolariGolynx: you're welcome in my circle19:49
Golynxty nuvolari :)19:50
Kilosas you scroll up through the sounds the squeels make your head ache19:50
nuvolarinot_found: I got to fly a 60-size nitro heli last weekend19:50
nuvolariI was shaking afterwards :P19:50
nuvolarinot mine19:50
Golynx440hz is too high Kilos19:50
Kilosno man19:51
Kilosmosquito frequency is 11.3 khz19:51
Golynxlol yah your eardrums will pop be carefull19:51
Kilosnuvolari its written in java19:51
Golynx11.3 khz where did you get that info ?19:52
Kiloshttp://arachnoid.com/JSigGen/19:52
nuvolariwhat's that oom Kilos?19:52
Kilosi saw a mosquito killer link somewhere19:52
nuvolariif you want a simple tone/DTMF/white/black noise generator, I found the simplest tool possible: ocenaudio19:53
Kilossignal generator  nuvolari 19:53
nuvolariruns on win, lin, and osx19:53
nuvolariusing it for recording19:53
Kilosyou gotta find the frequency that kills mosquitos and bugs nuvolari 19:53
nuvolariIt can't do multitrack recording though 19:54
Kilos11.3khz we cant hear19:54
nuvolariI can hear 11.3Khz19:55
theblazehenI can hear 21.5 KHz...19:55
nuvolari14000hz19:55
nuvolariwhut, you're a vampire?19:55
Kiloslol19:56
charlnuvolari: sorry was away for a few mins... what you mean "which stuff19:56
Kilosi cant hear 1300hz19:56
charl"?19:56
GolynxKilos insects tend to run away from sounds in the 30 - 40 hz spectrum , i dunno about 11.3 khz 19:56
Kilosok lemme go try down there19:57
nuvolarihmm, maybe it depends on equipment too. Headphones might be better suited to test ranges19:57
GolynxI saw 0 Hz - 96 KHz in there that site you gave, so your sound card will generate in the right frequencies19:57
not_foundnuvolari didn't crash this one eh?19:58
not_found:p19:58
nuvolaricharl: hmm, I need to figure out why I said that :P19:58
theblazehennuvolari, just young :)19:58
charl:)19:58
nuvolarinot_found: that crash was totally not my fault, I promise! I didn't know wooden blades can't handle what I was about to try19:58
nuvolari21:30:38         charl | ooh this is good stuff nuvolari19:59
KilosGolynx what frequency bothers dogs'19:59
charlnuvolari: oh, gradle :)19:59
charltoo much happening in this channel20:00
Kiloswhew way past bedtime. night all. sleep tight20:02
Golynx30 - 50 khz20:02
charlgood night kilos20:02
Golynxnight Kilos20:02
charli'm going too20:02
charlhave a good evening all20:03
nuvolariwaait20:03
nuvolaritoo late20:03
nuvolari*sigh*20:03
nuvolarigradle good stuff my rear20:03
nuvolari:-/20:03
not_foundnuvolari ; just pulling your socks... seems an awesome hobby :)20:05
nuvolariI'm off20:31
nuvolario/night20:31
locodir-user1Goede avond20:53
nuvolarithumbs-down for gradle. re-fetches nexus repo index for every new project = 105 Mb?21:00
nuvolarior was that 10.5...?21:00
nuvolarinope, 105.3 Mb!21:01
not_foundlol21:42

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