[05:15] <Kilos> hi Squirm- psydroid and others
[05:43] <nuvolari> hallo oom Kilos 
[05:43] <Kilos> more nuvolari 
[05:44] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom?
[05:44] <Kilos> ja dankie seun en jy?
[05:44] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[05:44] <nuvolari> ek is net bly dit is Vrydag
[05:44] <nuvolari> minder bly oor valentynsdag
[05:44] <Kilos> haha
[05:45] <Kilos> ai!
[05:45] <nuvolari> my rekenaar is nou nie so lekker om te vry soos 'n girl nie
[05:45] <Kilos> hahaha
[05:45] <nuvolari> wel, as ek nou maar my verbeelding gebruik
[07:01] <Kilos> good morning superfly ThatGraemeGuy  :-)
[07:01] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:08] <magespawn> good morning
[07:10] <Squirm-> morning
[07:10] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:22] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[07:26] <magespawn> so what is up today?
[07:26] <Kilos> ?
[07:31] <magespawn> just asking what you are doing etc?
[07:37] <Kilos> lol
[07:38] <Kilos> im running that siggen and hoping to find a noonoo to catch to see what is the best frequency to kill it
[07:38] <Kilos> are you catching up with all the installing of stuff yet magespawn ?
[08:00] <Xethron> hi Kilos
[08:16] <Vince-0> !
[08:53] <magespawn> later all work is calling
[09:07] <charl> good morning
[09:07] <charl> Maaz_: coffee on
[09:07]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[09:07] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:07] <Kilos> Maaz_ coffee please
[09:07] <Maaz_> Kilos: Yessir
[09:09] <charl> hi Kilos :)
[09:11] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[09:11] <Kilos> Maaz_ ty
[09:11] <Maaz_> You are welcome Kilos
[09:11] <charl> Maaz_: thanks
[09:11] <Maaz_> charl: Sure
[09:20] <charl> hi psyatw 
[09:21] <psyatw> hi charl
[09:21] <charl> :)
[09:21] <charl> how's it going?
[09:22] <psyatw> I am doing fine, thanks :)
[09:22] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[09:22] <psyatw> how are you doing?
[09:22] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:22] <charl> i'm doing good
[09:51] <psyatw> wb Kilos
[09:51] <psyatw> I have one more week to go at my current job
[09:51] <Kilos> hehe
[09:53] <charl> how's the apartment hunting going psyatw ?
[09:53] <psyatw> charl, I haven´t really been looking yet to be honest
[09:53] <psyatw> but a few friends have offered to help me out
[09:53] <psyatw> and I will have a full week of holidays to go and look for apartments
[09:55] <charl> ah ok, that should be plenty of time
[10:20] <Kilos> ty psyatw , going again now to other drive
[10:28] <psyatw> wb again Kilos
[10:31] <Kilos> ty ty
[10:34] <psyatw> solved your problems now?
[10:38] <Kilos> i had to go to other drive to find stuff in mail accounts
[10:38] <Kilos> for ian
[10:39] <Kilos> his tower is dead so no internet
[10:40] <Kilos> Maaz_ telkom mail is <reply> TM-SOC@telkom.co.za
[10:40] <Maaz_> Kilos: I already know stuff about telkom mail
[10:40] <Kilos> oh
[10:40] <Kilos> Maaz_ telkom mail
[10:40] <Maaz_> TM-SOC@telkom.co.za
[10:40] <Kilos> cool
[12:57] <inetpro> good mornings
[13:02] <Kilos> lol hi there inetpro 
[13:03] <Kilos> 17mm gisteraand
[13:13] <inetpro> 15
[13:14] <inetpro> saam met lekker donderweer
[13:52] <Kilos> ja baie en krag af vir hure, toe gaan slaap ek
[15:07] <Kilos> Maaz_ change nick to Maaz
[15:07] <Maaz_> Kilos: Just do it yourself
[15:07] <Kilos> Maaz_ grrr
[15:07] <Maaz_> you tiger you
[15:07] <Kilos> inetpro fix it
[15:45] <Kilos> yo not_found hows ya
[15:46] <not_found> at work for an additional two nights of fun and zzzzzzzz... so I am ok I guess :) - how are you uncle Kilos 
[15:46] <not_found> ?
[15:46] <Kilos> good ty lad
[15:51] <not_found> awesome :)
[15:51] <Kilos> yeah hehe everything works except for xchat sound but konversation makes a good backup irc client
[15:53] <Kilos> had a look at facebook yesterday. wow become an advert thing
[15:53] <not_found> cool :)
[15:53] <Kilos> lotsa nudes and semi nudes for sale
[15:53] <Kilos> whew
[15:54] <Kilos> russian chicks etc
[15:54] <Kilos> eeek
[15:54] <not_found> always handy 
[15:54] <not_found> >.<
[15:54] <Kilos> i have never fancied fb much but now its getting outa hand
[15:55] <Kilos> need to find a way to block all adverts then it wont be too bad again maybe
[15:56] <Kilos> its called progress
[15:57] <Kilos> oh my
[15:58] <Kilos> haha what happened psyatw 
[16:29] <psyatw> Kilos, I saw a friend of mine change his nick so I thought I should one up him in that department :)
[17:09] <theblazehen> hey Kilos, all
[17:21] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:25] <not_found> hiya theblazehen 
[17:26] <theblazehen> hey not_found 
[17:38] <Private_User> theblazehen: its normally in the last place you look
[17:38] <Private_User> :D
[17:38] <theblazehen> Private_User, lol?
[17:39] <Private_User> hello all, Kilos, not_found, theblazehen 
[17:40] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[17:45] <not_found> alo
[17:50] <Kilos> hi smile 
[18:02] <smile> hi Kilos :p
[18:03] <Kilos> :p
[18:03] <smile> it's valentine's day, so no computer anymore :p
[18:03] <Kilos> hehe
[18:03] <smile> byebye ;)
[18:03] <Kilos> cheers
[18:27] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:29] <inetpro> good evening
[18:29] <Kilos> wb inetpro 
[18:30] <inetpro> sup Kilos?
[18:30] <Kilos> fix the bot man
[18:31] <inetpro> ai!
[18:31]  * inetpro doesn't have full permissions to the bot
[18:31] <Kilos> ai!
[18:31] <Kilos> ok then you gotta tune the crash kid
[18:32] <Kilos> but its your job, hence the fix it
[18:32] <Kilos> you might as well because you didnt fix my xchat sound
[18:32] <inetpro> hmm.
[18:33] <Kilos> rofl
[18:33] <theblazehen> Kilos, crash kid?
[18:33] <Kilos> cocooncrash
[18:33] <Kilos> the bots boss
[18:34] <theblazehen> ah
[18:34] <Kilos> but he has gone over to the yanks so we lost a master
[18:35] <Kilos> he theblazehen you love playing
[18:35] <Kilos> how good is your python
[18:35] <theblazehen> "Good enough"
[18:36] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:36] <theblazehen> But don't have much time atm, sorry I can't rreally help
[18:36] <Kilos> i got a greeter script for ibid bots but it needs work
[18:36] <Kilos> make time
[18:36] <Kilos> not now inna coupla weeks
[18:37] <theblazehen> kk
[18:37] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[18:38] <Kilos> whatever happened to the guy the works with you that was gonna look at that script
[18:45] <not_found> inetpro , so whats your take on Mark's blog?
[18:46] <theblazehen> not_found, the systemd?
[18:46] <not_found> yup
[18:46] <inetpro> not_found: kind of sad for upstart 
[18:46] <not_found> seems an obvious move
[18:46] <not_found> as ubuntu derives from debian
[18:46] <Kilos> not_found link?
[18:46] <not_found> upstart was good and did what was needed at the time
[18:47] <inetpro> but I guess systemd has improved in the process and is probably a good decision
[18:47] <not_found> Kilos http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
[18:47] <Kilos> ty
[18:47] <not_found> and systemd != compatible with anything 
[18:48] <inetpro> I must be honest, I haven't looked deeply into systemd yet, I liked upstart
[18:48] <not_found> there was one good post about why systemd was a bad idea... but it was some time ago and I doubt I would find it now
[18:48] <inetpro> but then I didn't have to write startup scripts lately
[18:49] <not_found> anyhow it would have alienated ubuntu badly from all the other distro's... worse than mir might
[18:49] <inetpro> sure
[18:49] <inetpro> I was surprised to see the posting
[18:50] <inetpro> think it's a good move, definitely
[18:50] <not_found> seems it caught many off guard
[18:50] <not_found> was a tough call for debian
[18:50] <not_found> and I think Canonical handled it correct for a change
[18:51] <not_found> not that they will be cut any slack :/
[18:51] <not_found> https://plus.google.com/114419073019603780828/posts/YqoKZsRBMz8
[18:51] <not_found> also a very good read
[18:52] <inetpro> makes a lot of things a lot easier across distros if most of them use the same startup procedures
[18:52] <inetpro> but like he says, it will take time
[18:53] <not_found> it is a big chance
[18:53] <not_found> change*
[18:54] <inetpro> sad that we are so close to the release of 14.04 LTS
[18:55] <inetpro> can't see them using systemd in this release yet
[18:56] <not_found> nope... it will first have to be a stable default in debian in any case... and we all know how long that can take >.<
[18:56] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:57] <not_found> on an unstable default :p
[18:57] <inetpro> sure thing, it will have to be stable
[18:58] <not_found> well ubuntu is based of off "testing" and sid right :p
[18:58] <inetpro> big impact decision
[18:59] <inetpro> not sure what ubuntu is based on
[18:59] <not_found> afaik lts on testing and the normal release on unstable but I am not so sure now
[18:59] <not_found> not that it matters to much... it will come when it has
[19:00] <not_found> not that it will effect me as I don't dabble in the dark arts
[19:01] <inetpro> in some ways I see ubuntu as a big testing ground 
[19:02] <inetpro> now that I looked at Red Hat /  Centos again it feels like stepping back in time
[19:03] <inetpro> having tried and tested stable distros is important for business
[19:05] <superfly> systemd first goes into experimental
[19:05] <superfly> then it'll migrate back to unstable, then into Ubuntu, and then down into testing and stable
[19:06] <superfly> Ubuntu won't be using systemd before 14.10 at least
[19:09] <inetpro> will be interesting to see the development of systemd
[19:10] <charl> good evening
[19:26] <nuvolari> o/ ohi
[19:26] <nuvolari> anyone around used gradle before?
[19:27]  * not_found saw the G+ post and has never heard of gradle before then :p
[19:27] <not_found> hi charl and nuvolari too :p
[19:28] <Kilos> hi nuvolari Golynx 
[19:29] <charl> hi not_found 
[19:29] <charl> hi Kilos 
[19:29] <charl> hi nuvolari 
[19:29] <Kilos> hi charl 
[19:30] <charl> ooh this is good stuff nuvolari 
[19:31] <psydroid> hi Kilos 
[19:31] <psydroid> hi inetpro 
[19:31] <charl> hi psydroid 
[19:31] <psydroid> hi theblazehen 
[19:31] <psydroid> hi Golynx 
[19:31] <psydroid> hi charl 
[19:31] <Kilos> lol
[19:32] <charl> nuvolari: we're busy with a build automation project at work
[19:32] <psydroid> hi nuvolari 
[19:32] <Golynx> Hi Kilos 
[19:32] <psydroid> hi superfly 
[19:32] <psydroid> hi not_found 
[19:32] <Golynx> Hi psydroid
[19:32] <superfly> ohi everyone
[19:33] <charl> nuvolari: we are using maven with jenkins right now
[19:33]  * superfly was busy setting up his fish tank
[19:33] <charl> hi superfly 
[19:33] <Golynx> hi superfly and charl
[19:33] <Golynx> plus Hi not_found
[19:34] <charl> hi Golynx 
[19:34] <Golynx> hi nuvolari
[19:34] <Kilos> Golynx did you see the software sig-gen
[19:35] <Golynx> software ? Does it have anything like that ?
[19:36] <Kilos> it works kiff
[19:36] <Kilos> runs a sig-gen from your pc
[19:36] <Golynx> oh great
[19:36] <Golynx> glad you got it working
[19:37] <Kilos> yeah but now to get bugs to keep still long enough to find the frequency for them
[19:37] <Kilos> hehe
[19:38] <Golynx> thats a tuff one hehe
[19:38] <Kilos> lol
[19:39] <Golynx> you can put them in a big glass pot then shoot them with the sig gen and see which frequency they fly from
[19:39] <Kilos> lol i cant catch them man they are fast
[19:41] <Golynx> you must be gentle, a fly will sit still if you approuch it slowly, then when your 2 cm away you catch it with a small pot
[19:41] <Kilos> lol
[19:41] <nuvolari> which stuff charl? 
[19:42] <Kilos> these are tiny white fly. similar to fruit fly
[19:42] <nuvolari> IMHO gradle is a PITA to start with
[19:42] <nuvolari> it's supposedly some silverish bullet
[19:42] <Golynx> i can come as close as 1 cm and a fly sits still, lol its crazy but it works :0
[19:42] <Golynx> :)
[19:42] <Kilos> come right through fly screens
[19:42] <nuvolari> but I'm wrecking my brains trying to do the simplest of things
[19:42] <nuvolari> it's not nearly as easy and straight-forward/simple as maven
[19:43] <nuvolari> it's like ANT, just without the XML
[19:43] <nuvolari> cli-support sucks
[19:43] <nuvolari> no tab-completion
[19:44] <nuvolari> pretty coloured text output though
[19:44] <Golynx> then make it a small glass pot and catch them, then transfer to the big pot for testing
[19:44] <Kilos> haha
[19:44] <Golynx> :)
[19:45] <Kilos> and i found my frequency counter
[19:45] <Golynx> are you sure it can generate below 40Hz
[19:45] <Kilos> but has to be plugged in with pl259 plugs i think they were called
[19:46] <Kilos> the sig-gen starts at 0khz
[19:46] <nuvolari> I don't understand my boss. Fighting maven and git with all his heart in favour of ANT and Subversion, now he wants to go the gradle/git route. Git is great, but nobody on our team used gradle/groovy before
[19:46] <Golynx> 0khz is 1000Hz :/
[19:46] <not_found> er
[19:46] <nuvolari> oh?
[19:46] <nuvolari> *eh
[19:46] <Kilos> starts lower than that even
[19:47] <nuvolari> 0khz = 0Hz
[19:47] <not_found> +1
[19:47] <not_found> 0Mhz = 0Hz
[19:47] <not_found> >.<
[19:47] <nuvolari> 0GHz = 0Hz
[19:47] <Kilos> and scrolls up with mouse scroll wheel
[19:47] <Golynx> lol 1khz = 1000hz :p
[19:47] <Kilos> very cool
[19:47] <nuvolari> +1
[19:47] <nuvolari> :P
[19:48] <not_found> 0jiggawatz = one mcdonalds burger
[19:48] <nuvolari> lol!
[19:48] <Kilos> 0=0 in any language
[19:48] <not_found> cool shaes
[19:48] <nuvolari> except 1⁰
[19:48] <not_found> *shades
[19:48] <nuvolari> wait
[19:48] <nuvolari> I nearly failed maths
[19:48] <nuvolari> let me shush
[19:48] <nuvolari> :P
[19:48] <not_found> that = 0 right?
[19:48] <not_found> lol
[19:49] <Golynx> nuvolari i failed at match :p
[19:49] <Kilos> default setting is 440hz
[19:49] <nuvolari> Golynx: you're welcome in my circle
[19:50] <Golynx> ty nuvolari :)
[19:50] <Kilos> as you scroll up through the sounds the squeels make your head ache
[19:50] <nuvolari> not_found: I got to fly a 60-size nitro heli last weekend
[19:50] <nuvolari> I was shaking afterwards :P
[19:50] <nuvolari> not mine
[19:50] <Golynx> 440hz is too high Kilos
[19:51] <Kilos> no man
[19:51] <Kilos> mosquito frequency is 11.3 khz
[19:51] <Golynx> lol yah your eardrums will pop be carefull
[19:51] <Kilos> nuvolari its written in java
[19:52] <Golynx> 11.3 khz where did you get that info ?
[19:52] <Kilos> http://arachnoid.com/JSigGen/
[19:52] <nuvolari> what's that oom Kilos?
[19:52] <Kilos> i saw a mosquito killer link somewhere
[19:53] <nuvolari> if you want a simple tone/DTMF/white/black noise generator, I found the simplest tool possible: ocenaudio
[19:53] <Kilos> signal generator  nuvolari 
[19:53] <nuvolari> runs on win, lin, and osx
[19:53] <nuvolari> using it for recording
[19:53] <Kilos> you gotta find the frequency that kills mosquitos and bugs nuvolari 
[19:54] <nuvolari> It can't do multitrack recording though 
[19:54] <Kilos> 11.3khz we cant hear
[19:55] <nuvolari> I can hear 11.3Khz
[19:55] <theblazehen> I can hear 21.5 KHz...
[19:55] <nuvolari> 14000hz
[19:55] <nuvolari> whut, you're a vampire?
[19:56] <Kilos> lol
[19:56] <charl> nuvolari: sorry was away for a few mins... what you mean "which stuff
[19:56] <Kilos> i cant hear 1300hz
[19:56] <charl> "?
[19:56] <Golynx> Kilos insects tend to run away from sounds in the 30 - 40 hz spectrum , i dunno about 11.3 khz 
[19:57] <Kilos> ok lemme go try down there
[19:57] <nuvolari> hmm, maybe it depends on equipment too. Headphones might be better suited to test ranges
[19:57] <Golynx> I saw 0 Hz - 96 KHz in there that site you gave, so your sound card will generate in the right frequencies
[19:58] <not_found> nuvolari didn't crash this one eh?
[19:58] <not_found> :p
[19:58] <nuvolari> charl: hmm, I need to figure out why I said that :P
[19:58] <theblazehen> nuvolari, just young :)
[19:58] <charl> :)
[19:58] <nuvolari> not_found: that crash was totally not my fault, I promise! I didn't know wooden blades can't handle what I was about to try
[19:59] <nuvolari> 21:30:38         charl | ooh this is good stuff nuvolari
[19:59] <Kilos> Golynx what frequency bothers dogs'
[19:59] <charl> nuvolari: oh, gradle :)
[20:00] <charl> too much happening in this channel
[20:02] <Kilos> whew way past bedtime. night all. sleep tight
[20:02] <Golynx> 30 - 50 khz
[20:02] <charl> good night kilos
[20:02] <Golynx> night Kilos
[20:02] <charl> i'm going too
[20:03] <charl> have a good evening all
[20:03] <nuvolari> waait
[20:03] <nuvolari> too late
[20:03] <nuvolari> *sigh*
[20:03] <nuvolari> gradle good stuff my rear
[20:03] <nuvolari> :-/
[20:05] <not_found> nuvolari ; just pulling your socks... seems an awesome hobby :)
[20:31] <nuvolari> I'm off
[20:31] <nuvolari> o/night
[20:53] <locodir-user1> Goede avond
[21:00] <nuvolari> thumbs-down for gradle. re-fetches nexus repo index for every new project = 105 Mb?
[21:00] <nuvolari> or was that 10.5...?
[21:01] <nuvolari> nope, 105.3 Mb!
[21:42] <not_found> lol