[02:22] jjfrv8, hey :) [02:22] knome, oops, I picked some nits with it [02:22] reviewing clash [02:22] hehe, np [02:22] i'm actually working on it now [02:22] i can do the proposed changes while i'm on it [02:23] ok [02:33] jjfrv8, Unit193: merged in 137. [02:33] feel free to re-review [02:34] knome: STOP MERGING, I'M WORKING ON STUFF! [02:34] :P [02:34] don't do merge requests then :P [02:34] OK. :----D [02:34] nooo [02:34] i take that back [02:34] you should do more of them ;) [02:35] knome: Did you fix it first? [02:35] knome, glad you went with the 3rd person singular, cause I realized the heading says "What it does" [02:35] Unit193, yeah, i merged locally, then edited... [02:36] and pushed [02:36] jjfrv8, was a gut feeling to do that, didn't even notice the heading ;) [02:36] jjfrv8: Sorry, my brain hardly works. Prepare for seizures for the next merge. :P [02:36] I didn't at first either [02:36] Unit193, you need to report seizures to the other "doc" [02:36] ha! see what i did there! [02:36] hehe [02:37] Yep, good one. [02:37] knome: Patch pilot looking at my uploads now. [02:37] * knome sends Unit193 to the gumby brain specialist [02:37] Unit193, oooo, exciting :) [02:37] * Unit193 is working on xyz still. [02:38] humm, stretching doesn't do good [02:38] only makes muscles twitch [02:38] maybe i should go to bed :P [02:39] before i go... [02:40] jjfrv8, did you see bluesabre's contributions to the menulibre docs? ;) [02:40] affirmative [02:40] nice of him [02:40] ja [02:40] ...What's the friendly name of catfish? [02:40] fitcash [02:40] he said he's got to make some changes this weekend to add launchers to directories [02:41] okay [02:41] oh btw, [02:41] we have unblocked several things now with deciding on the panel layout [02:42] well, some of it is still blocked until we have it set up [02:42] but good progress [02:42] yuo [02:42] yup [02:42] maybe I should go to be too [02:42] yikes! *bed [02:42] already? am i really up that late? [02:43] way later than here for sure [02:43] heh :) [02:43] almost 5am [02:44] yeah, maybe i should go to bed and think about more stuff tomorrow [02:44] nighty! [02:44] cya [03:25] Party time. \o/ [03:38] knome: That is to say, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/2.2.0-0ubuntu1 - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/4.11.0~0.git20140209.86a1b73-0ubuntu1 [06:29] Unit193: nice! thanks to Luke :) [06:30] Mirv: Yep, quite so. [06:30] Hello. [07:53] knome: I'll remove gthumb from package tracker [08:05] knome: also - I've not published that article, not sure when you want to do that, but I don't want it to be hanging around for ages [08:33] elfy: so panel and indicators are finally there, ready for testing? ;) [08:34] CD will still be shipping with -sound-gtk2 and -application-gtk2 [08:35] true, that will take a little longer [08:35] but for b1, things should be in place [09:15] xubuntu-docs: https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/xubuntu-docs/pedantic_sync_changelog_from_archive/+merge/206150 [10:25] ochosi: not sure tbh what we can test re indicators but panel will mean a rejig of the existing test to remove references to bottom panel and any of the things we populate panel with is all [10:29] elfy: the panel-changes haven't been pushed yet [10:29] only the xfce4-panel that supports gtk3 indicators [10:29] morning all [12:58] elfy, re: article, oh duh, good reminder :) [12:58] elfy, we should get it out now as we have the new website stuff pushed! [13:00] hey guys [13:00] hey pmjdebruijn [13:01] just curious [13:01] xfwm4 with composition briefly blanks the screen... does anybody know if this has been resolved in newer xfwm in trusty? [13:01] * pmjdebruijn knows it's not particularly critical and is only cosmetic, but I'm curious [13:01] * pmjdebruijn admits to not having tested the daily live isos yet [13:04] pmjdebruijn: on session start? [13:04] yeah [13:05] Unit193 also mentioned this issue [13:05] it's very brief [13:05] doesn't this happen for everybody? [13:05] where compositing is on? [13:06] it is related to compositing, but it does not happen here [13:06] brainwash_: so you think it's not the root-pixmap transition bug? [13:06] I suspect xfdesktop [13:06] being the culprit [13:07] try to load a session with xfdesktop [13:07] without [13:07] how do I do that? [13:07] settings manager > session and startup > session [13:09] ochosi: but what would cause the the black flicker? xfwm4 does not copy the root pixmap as of now and should show a grey flicker [13:10] xfdesktop 4.11 does some transparency magic and could be the culprit [13:10] bbiab, lunchtime [13:14] I'll check tonigh [13:37] elfy, did you review my changes to the article already? [13:37] -team, also please review http://xubuntu.org/?p=2078&preview=true [13:55] knome: yep - did it a few days ago, just changed the dozen to 20 ish [13:56] knome, it looks pretty well, though a bit desesperated [13:57] maybe removing the italics on the words can change that? [13:58] GridCube: if you don't think that only getting ~20 people testing things is desperate - bearing in mind that 30% ish of those only appear once and that in fact we get real reports from about 10 people at most [13:58] knome: if I middle click a menu entry in the sidebar, the hover effect (underline) won't disappear [13:59] then I don't know what is - and am obviously looking at it the wrong way - and should just not bother like other flavours appear to do [13:59] elfy, yes, i kow, and im sorry i dont contribute more myself, but the title and the whole objective of the text is to call for more reporters, there is no real need of extra emphasis [14:00] * GridCube opinions [14:29] elfy: i like it, but some of the italics could go === schproodle is now known as Guest59686 [15:09] knome: http://xubuntu.org/?p=2078&preview=true -> Page Not Found (I'm sorry, but you're looking for something that is not here.) [15:11] slickymaster-job, xubuntu.org/login then try the link [15:15] hey GridCube [15:16] * slickymaster-job didn't knew about that and thanks GridCube for the hint [15:18] * GridCube tips hat [15:36] * slickymaster-job agrees on all counts with everthing in http://xubuntu.org/?p=2078&preview=true === schproodle is now known as Guest12481 [15:43] knome, elfy, I proposed a few grammar edits. I've never used WP before so don't know if I did it right. [16:00] brainwash_, that's because the link still has the focus. [16:02] jjfrv8, i would imagine it's just "done" without further notification (which is fine) [16:02] jjfrv8, basically the "review" only refers to somebody else has to publish it [16:02] jjfrv8, not review in the same way as in merge proposals :) [16:03] jjfrv8, you are keeping the edit lock. areyou still actually editing the post, or can i overtake? [16:05] taking over. [16:06] i'm publishing [16:08] done, and tweeted [16:08] pleia2, ping [16:09] knome, sorry, rookie mistake. [17:14] knome: thanks :) [17:16] hey elfy [17:16] slickymaster-job: hi [17:16] elfy: are still planning on writing the MenuLibre testcase? [17:17] you ^^ [17:18] that or not - still waiting on being able to actually do anything with it [17:19] did you saw http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=menulibre-docs [17:20] no - last time I looked at that it was all lorem ipsum [17:20] book marked it [17:20] thanks slickymaster-job [17:21] well, it's a complete new ball game now [17:26] slickymaster-job: as in - now it's not lorem ipsum :) [17:26] hi DanChapman [17:27] elfy hey there :-) how are you? [17:27] good thanks [17:27] hey DanChapman [17:28] if you don't fell like writing it, ping me elfy [17:30] slickymaster-job: :) [17:53] ochosi: not being at all arty over here - I wonder why the 'username' font size in the login box is so big compared to everything else [18:02] knome: g+ed [18:22] ta ta [18:24] elfy: to stress what's important [18:26] bbl [18:41] ochosi: that's fine, was just saying is all :) === schproodle is now known as Guest99652 [20:14] not sure i am in the right place installed 14.04 alpha2 and had a problem with the desktop wbar loads before the wallpaper every time and has the black box around it reloading wbar fixes [20:14] what's wbar? [20:14] dock [20:15] sounds like wbar uses a bad method of rendering a shadow [20:15] the slow loading wallpaper is a known bug [20:16] ahhh ty [20:22] some ppl are easily satisfied [20:22] "this is a known bug" -> "ah ok" -> disconnect [20:22] :D [22:29] ochosi, hi [22:29] hey andrzejr [22:29] Hello. [22:29] hi Unit193 [22:30] do you still want me to release the indicator plugin? [22:30] andrzejr: 1) there's currently a bug in the plugin when setting the panel to opaque (that one wasn't fixed by eric_the_idiot's patch before) [22:30] (given that the required panel is still in git master) [22:30] and 2), we've uploaded 2.2.0 to ubuntu to have something there in time... [22:31] I think waiting as long as you can for the panel is good. [22:31] yup, in general it's good [22:31] ochosi, a bug in the plugin or a bug in the panel? [22:31] it's a bug in the panel [22:31] but iirc you have push-rights there. [22:31] is there a patch? [22:31] so in case you can test/confirm it, that'd be nice [22:31] yeah [22:31] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10658 [22:32] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10658 in Panel "GTK3 indicator area background turns transparent/black occasionally" [Normal,New] [22:32] the problem with testing is that I have never seen the problem myself [22:32] strange, should be easy to reproduce [22:32] at least with gtk3.10 [22:32] well, that's probably the reason (3.8 here) [22:33] hmm, yeah [22:33] strange that [22:33] but still, the patch shouldn't do any harm in gtk3.8 [22:33] at least that would be nice to test [22:35] ochosi: You have mail. [22:38] have you seen NSchermer lately? [22:43] andrzejr: no, not in the last two weeks [22:43] before that he said he's "about to merge the xfwm tabwin branch" :) [22:43] but that never happened, he's really busy with RL afaik [22:51] ochosi, the patch looks good, pushed. [22:53] andrzejr: thanks! [22:53] we'll have to update our git-snapshot a bit later with that fix i guess :] [22:54] (or hopefully with a release...) [22:54] i presume you're not doing releases of xfce components (yet)? [22:57] ochosi, technically I can (as anyone with a commit access) but only the "main" maintainer is supposed to do it. [22:59] andrzejr: i'm just wondering whether you'd be willing to do it and specifically to offer it to NSchermer [22:59] i think he's the main maintainer of too many components atm [23:00] ochosi, ah would of helped if i built light-locker with " --with-mit-ext" :P [23:00] lderan: hehe, well you could've also just used the daily PPA ;) [23:00] true [23:01] lderan, is there any hope for getting your GUI land to T? :)) [23:02] remember stability of it can come after the FF, we just need a basic version [23:03] yup i'll get it working tomorrow :) [23:03] YAY [23:04] Noskcaj, while you are correct, that's not the recommended process [23:04] Noskcaj: eric_the_idiot said he might do a release after monday for xfdesktop, do you think you can update our package? [23:05] ochosi, Should be pretty easy. I'll packaging it in debian first in case corsac will upload, but i'll have a branch up by wednesday local time (tuesday i usually can't do stuff) [23:05] ochosi, I could do it for less important releases (x.x.1) but not the first release of the new series [23:06] with any luck i'll finally have motu by then [23:06] Noskcaj: yeah, i'm not sure it'll be 100% bugfix, so it has prime importance to get it in before FF [23:06] andrzejr: yeah, i understand... [23:06] ochosi, ok [23:44] lderan: if you can push your stuff to a branch somewhere, i can add the xfceheader stuff to the UI if you want [23:44] and try things like setting the appicon [23:45] okay, shall do so now. Its not much more then the ui hooked up to buttons at the moment [23:46] lderan: ok, sure, no rush :) [23:46] just wanted to get out of doing some update to greybird that i've been pushing away... :) [23:46] :) [23:48] ochosi, https://code.launchpad.net/~lderan/+junk/light-locker there yougo [23:54] lderan: hehe, you called it "light-locker" for easy disambiguation, right? :D [23:56] :P [23:56] can change it easily enough to what ever :P [23:57] * knome awards lderan the "most ambiguous branch name" award [23:57] \o/