[00:40] <ahoneybun> pretty dead today
[00:59]  * dougl wonders if anyone finds it odd my bluetooth gizmos do not work while my bluetooth PS3 controller does
[01:10] <ahoneybun> dougl: you have a ps3 controller working on linux?
[01:20] <dougl> yes
[01:21] <dougl> I only mame but will check anything you suggest... err and gamecube and psxr emu
[01:22] <dougl> added ppa and away I went
[01:54] <manchicken> apachelogger: I don't think kubuntu-debug-installer is going to be ready this cycle, but I think qapt's new version will be.
[01:54] <manchicken> apachelogger: I just took another look at it, and much of the kluge I have in there right now is adjusting for limitations in qapt that I worked out of it.
[01:55] <manchicken> (the kluge I added)
[02:09]  * manchicken curses timezones.
[02:12]  * ahoneybun joins in manchicken's curse
[02:14] <ahoneybun> manchicken: can I get your opinion on a site?
[02:14] <manchicken> Sure
[02:14] <manchicken> Assuming I form one.
[02:14] <ahoneybun> http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/
[02:16] <ahoneybun> I can't find the perfect theme
[02:16] <manchicken> The spacing of the kubuntu logo looks a little high
[02:16] <ahoneybun> yea I know
[02:16] <ahoneybun> need to get that size right
[02:16] <ahoneybun> think this theme would look better?http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/
[02:16] <ahoneybun> opps
[02:16] <manchicken> Did you put that one together or did you find that one mostly made?
[02:17] <ahoneybun> made theme
[02:17] <ahoneybun> as in I found
[02:17] <ahoneybun> http://wordpress.org/themes/pitch
[02:17] <manchicken> (those two sites are the same)
[02:17] <ahoneybun> that theme
[02:17] <manchicken> I like that theme.
[02:17] <manchicken> I like it quite a bit.
[02:18] <ahoneybun> yea me too just wondering if I could remove the clients and stuff
[02:18] <manchicken> That's a very pretty theme.
[02:19] <manchicken> It also fits our purpose, I think.
[02:20] <ahoneybun> seems so custom logo
[02:21] <ahoneybun> *no
[02:22] <manchicken> Maybe change "Contribute to Kubuntu" to just "Contribute"?
[02:22] <manchicken> And "Download Kubuntu" to "Download"?
[02:22] <ahoneybun> Yea
[02:25] <ahoneybun> done
[02:26] <manchicken> libqapt still isn't showing up in my projects drop-down on projects.kde.org.
[02:26] <manchicken> ahoneybun: That's very nice.
[02:26]  * ahoneybun wishes he could set custom logo
[02:27] <manchicken> Maybe try to button-ify those images?
[02:28] <ahoneybun> ?
[02:29] <manchicken> http://www.paulund.co.uk/css-buttons-with-icons-but-no-images
[02:30] <manchicken> Or this: http://fortysevenmedia.com/blog/archives/css3_buttons_with_icons/
[02:31] <ahoneybun> what images? the kde logo and stuff?
[02:31] <manchicken> For the other project logos
[02:31] <manchicken> KDE, Plasma, Debian, etc.
[02:33] <ahoneybun> oh
[02:34] <ahoneybun> I need to get off this computer my eyes
[05:09] <manchicken> Anybody know who has been packaging libqapt?
[05:10] <Riddell> manchicken: echidnaman did
[05:10] <manchicken> Yay
[05:10] <manchicken> I don't know how to package things...
[05:10] <Riddell> well anyone else here can
[05:10] <Riddell> or you can learn easily enough
[05:11] <manchicken> I'm wondering if I could get a ppa with the 2.1.1 up.
[05:14] <Riddell> yeah, want me to do it or want me to tell you how to do it?
[05:19] <manchicken> I'm not going to be terribly useful if I have you do it all :)
[05:19] <manchicken> I'm trying to learn how to do more, I've never done the packaging.
[05:19] <manchicken> I'm following this: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html
[05:19] <Riddell> that guide has a lot of the udd/bzr stuff in which just complicates things
[05:20] <Riddell> apt-get source qapt  to get current
[05:20] <Riddell> ensure the tar is the right nameing pattern
[05:20] <Riddell> copy over the debian/ directory
[05:20] <Riddell> dch -i  to update the changelog
[05:20] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell
[05:20] <Riddell> debuild  to test build (edit .install files if files have changed)
[05:20] <Riddell> debuild -S  to source build
[05:20] <Riddell> send the .orig.tar.  .dsc and .debian.tar.gz files to someone to upload 
[05:21] <Riddell> or dput ppa:lpusername  to upload yourself
[05:21] <manchicken> Oooh, you're full of useful stuff :)
[05:22]  * ahoneybun saves this info for later
[05:22] <manchicken> How do I change the version stuff? Just change the version numbers?
[05:22] <Riddell> dch -i  and put it in the changelog
[05:23] <Riddell> and make sure the same version number is in the .orig.tar
[05:23] <Riddell> should be  2.1.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[05:23] <Riddell> with tar being 2.1.1
[05:38] <manchicken> No fun: dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Original-Maintainer' in input data in general section of control info file
[05:40] <ahoneybun> manchicken: check debian/control
[05:40] <ahoneybun> thats all I know ll
[05:40] <manchicken> Yeah, I got that.
[05:40] <ahoneybun> sorry
[05:40] <manchicken> Now how do I re-generate the tarball?
[05:41] <manchicken> No, that's good, I appreciate it :)
[05:41] <ahoneybun> :)I know little
[05:41] <ahoneybun> well like the size of a atom lol
[05:49] <Riddell> ignore that
[06:02] <manchicken> ?
[06:04] <manchicken> dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../qapt_2.1.1.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
[06:04] <manchicken> I did dh_make for qapt_2.1.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1, so I'm not sure why it's looking for the 2.1.1 version string.
[06:04] <manchicken> Without the -0ubuntu1~ppa1 portion
[06:06] <manchicken> But the orig is totally there
[06:06] <manchicken> Ooooh, I got this: dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b qapt_2.1.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 gave error exit status 255
[06:06] <manchicken> debuild: fatal error at line 1361:
[06:06] <manchicken> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S failed
[06:06] <manchicken> I didn't see that.
[06:15] <manchicken> I've gotta go to bed, the boys are going to be doing the waking up thing in a little while.
[08:22] <jussi> sigh... somehting still complete borked here
[08:50] <jussi> I think it might be cpu scaling though
[08:51] <jussi> nvidia now seems to be working...
[09:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:11] <jussi> morning lordievader
[09:12] <Peace-> Riddell: nice article
[09:12] <Peace-> on kde planet
[09:15] <lordievader> Hey jussi, how are you doing?
[09:15] <jussi> lordievader: Im fine, however, very frustrated at this pc atm
[09:15] <lordievader> jussi: Because of things crashing/behaving strangely?
[09:16] <jussi> lordievader: no, its just SLOW. and it shouldnt be slow.
[09:16] <Peace-> jussi: :D morning jussi
[09:16] <jussi> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8700  @ 2.53GHz
[09:16] <jussi> a bit older, but shouldnt be acting this slow
[09:16] <jussi> hrm, how do I check which graphics driver is being used from the cli ?
[09:17] <Peace-> lsmod | grep module?
[09:17] <lordievader> jussi: I had a similar thing yesterday, my cpu couldn't go higher than 1.2GHz, while it can do 2GHz. A reboot fixed that.
[09:18] <jussi> looks like its using nvidia then... hrm
[09:18] <jussi> lordievader: rebooted several times now, no dice.
[09:18] <lordievader> jussi: :(, slowness when it shouldn't be aint good. Slowness when it is just slow (looking at you RPi) is acceptable.
[09:19] <Peace-> lordievader: rpi is not slow it's really slow
[09:20] <lordievader> Peace-: Agreed, but for a mediacenter it is fine.
[09:20] <Peace-> jussi: but have you everything turned on ?
[09:20] <Peace-> i mean akonadi and desktop search?
[09:20] <Peace-> maybe it's that 
[09:20] <jussi> Peace-: whatever is default. its anew install - even with those, is shouldnt be this slow
[09:20] <Peace-> top ?
[09:21] <cortexA9> hello, there is some issues with standby mode?
[09:21] <Peace-> cortexA9: mean sleep?
[09:21] <cortexA9> yea
[09:22] <Peace-> here on 13.10 in my machine no 
[09:22] <jussi> kwin and xorg together taking abvout 50% cpu... hrm
[09:22] <cortexA9> i mean 14.04
[09:22] <Peace-> ah :D
[09:22] <Peace-> cortexA9: for what i have seen in my other marchine no 
[09:22] <lordievader> jussi: atop might give you a clue of what the culprit is.
[09:22] <cortexA9> ok thanks Peace- 
[09:23] <cortexA9> maybe my machine
[09:23] <Peace-> cortexA9: but they are 5 years old computers
[09:23] <Peace-> jussi: mm not normal yep
[09:26] <cortexA9> freeze my machine after power on
[09:27] <Peace-> cortexA9: mah i would try some acpi stuff option in the kernel 
[09:27] <cortexA9> Peace-: idk
[09:27] <Peace-> cortexA9: or just open a bug report
[09:28] <cortexA9> Peace-: with 3.11.x kernel
[09:28] <cortexA9> Peace-: because i have another issue
[09:28] <cortexA9> Peace-: at startup
[09:28] <cortexA9> Peace-: if i boot the default kubuntu
[09:29] <cortexA9> Peace-: i see an initramfs screen
[09:30] <cortexA9> Peace-: and i need to run a 3.11.x kernel
[09:30] <cortexA9> Peace-: that work
[09:30] <Peace-> cortexA9: it's a kernel issue right 
[09:31] <cortexA9> yea Peace- 
[09:31] <Peace-> cortexA9: i will open a bug report if i was you
[09:55] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I am now :D
[10:13] <Riddell> hmm, do we want to grab a plasma-nm snapshot before FF? http://grulja.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/final-shape-of-plasma-nm/
[10:28] <yofel> I'm all for it (hoping that the mentioned release happens in the next 2 months)
[10:36] <jussi> Riddell: lets do it!
[10:54] <ghostcube> yeah
[10:54] <ghostcube> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12623
[10:55] <ghostcube> i dont get it why they not telling this on the public page... nah you must run threw the bug tracker to get an pre release of the guest additions
[10:55] <ghostcube> -.-
[12:01] <Peace-> fantastic :D i upgraded archlinux and .... ati opengl down :D
[12:01] <Peace-> i can't undestand why people install this distro 
[12:01]  * Peace- loves kubuntu
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:38] <ghostcube> ha! the 4.3.7 iso works fine with xorg 1.15 
[12:38] <ghostcube> so virtualbox working again 
[14:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the kdeconnect desktop file will want a Hidden=true (or NoDisplay=true if app-install ignores Hidden)
[14:12] <claydoh_> Good morning folks! is there anything that is keeping kde 4.12.2 from making it in to precise? curious forum folks are wondering ;)
[14:12] <apachelogger> otherwise there'll be a might annoyed apachelogger whenever that change lands
[14:12] <apachelogger> claydoh_: shaydeslayer
[14:12] <apachelogger> Precise
[14:12] <apachelogger> WIP : shadeslayer
[14:13] <apachelogger> I dunno what it meanst but I guess the thing that is keeping it from it into precise is shadeslayer :P
[14:14] <claydoh> apachelogger:  lol  thanks!
[14:15] <apachelogger> ahoneybun: fwiw, we can add translations for more than 5 days
[14:15] <apachelogger> the final docs ought to not change
[14:15] <apachelogger> (i.e. english version should be frozen)
[14:17] <manchicken> This thing still won't bulid.
[14:19] <manchicken> apachelogger, Riddell: Will either of you have a moment here in a few minutes to help me get this package built? I'm moving to a different wifi location and then I need to get this package built so I can start testing it a bit more and try to get the debug installer work restarted.
[14:21] <apachelogger> manchicken: you need to make a tarball of the git clone
[14:21] <apachelogger> and name it qapt_VERSIONUSEDINCHANGELOG.orig.tar.(xz,bz2,gz)
[14:23] <manchicken> apachelogger: So just tar up the working directory?
[14:23] <apachelogger> yeah, well without the debian dir
[14:23] <manchicken> Cool. I'll try that first once I get where I'm going.
[14:24] <apachelogger> or you edit debian/source/format and change it to 3.0 (native)
[14:24] <apachelogger> then dpkg-buildpackage will create an own tarball
[14:59] <manchicken> apachelogger: So I'm trying to take the source package from 2.0.65 and move it to the new version number 2.1.1.
[15:01] <manchicken> I figure sticking it into a PPA is the best way to get people testing this build, but I haven't actually done that before.
[15:09] <manchicken> On a positive note, I have finally figured out the secret to getting my working dirs to build under kdevel.
[15:09] <manchicken> So happy me.
[15:22] <manchicken> I'm gonna give up on the package for a little bit while I focus on the kubuntu-debug-installer
[15:24] <manchicken> apachelogger: You know that QAptDecorator I put in kubuntu-debug-installer that Jon and I hated? I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to put that into libqapt itself.
[15:24] <manchicken> All it does is convert an enum QApt::ErrorCode to a QString
[15:25] <manchicken> (and by convert I mean interpret)
[15:26] <manchicken> Ooh, the only issue I could see is that it uses KLocalizedString, and qapt isn't supposed to depend on KDE.
[15:29] <manchicken> Is there anything in Qt land that performs the same function as KLocalizedString::i18nc()?
[15:46] <tsimpson> QObject::tr I guess
[15:50] <manchicken> I'm trying that now.
[15:50] <manchicken> I'm a little fuzzy on what the disambiguation part of the call is, but that seems to be the analog for context.
[15:52] <tsimpson> yes, it serves the same purpose
[15:53] <manchicken> Since it's just error messages I'm putting in here I'm just using "error" as the disambiguation.
[18:47] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: hello