huayra | jtaylor, won't :) | 00:02 |
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huayra | I do have a USB key in case it blows up in my face | 00:02 |
huayra | and /home is on its own partition since the end of the 90s ;) | 00:03 |
huayra | 'sed -i 's/saucy/trusty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list' + dpkg/apt magic did the trick... | 00:16 |
huayra | updating now | 00:16 |
bekks | Update started ... - that does not mean it will finish without breaking your box. | 00:30 |
bekks | Thats called "unsupported". | 00:30 |
huayra | bekks, I know... I used to test upgrading the init from a debian-edu (venus) to debian stable (on cds) | 00:32 |
huayra | I still don't know what I am doing, but I am good at troubleshooting my own setup | 00:33 |
huayra | yes, the init... parallel init. way before even upstart was designed :) | 00:33 |
huayra | good times! | 00:33 |
bekks | Whatever. | 00:34 |
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huayra | done... let's see if it restarts | 01:06 |
huayra | Thanks for your help | 01:06 |
diegoviola | hi | 02:08 |
diegoviola | is ubuntu switching to systemd? | 02:09 |
rww | diegoviola: yes | 02:09 |
diegoviola | cool | 02:09 |
rww | not for 14.04 though | 02:09 |
diegoviola | great decision | 02:09 |
diegoviola | i've been using systemd on other distros and it rocks | 02:09 |
rww | i agree :) | 02:09 |
diegoviola | it's incredibly fast and reliable | 02:09 |
diegoviola | i'm also happy that i can now expect things to act in a consistent way across distributions, things like systemctl start sshd, systemctl status sshd, etc | 02:11 |
diegoviola | i can see those things making life easier | 02:11 |
rww | *nod* I've used systemd on Debian and it works just fine, so I'm hoping Ubuntu doesn't need that much work to switch :) | 02:12 |
diegoviola | cool... yeah :) | 02:12 |
diegoviola | nice | 02:13 |
diegoviola | exciting times | 02:13 |
diegoviola | now that ubuntu will be adopting systemd, will canonical also contribute code to it? | 02:18 |
rww | no idea. probably a bit early for definite details like that :) | 02:18 |
diegoviola | yeah i see | 02:18 |
diegoviola | it would be nice if they do though | 02:19 |
diegoviola | anyway... i'm really happy about this, it has surprised me big time today when i heard of it | 02:21 |
diegoviola | :) | 02:21 |
rww | Me too. I'm happy that the current Canonical folks have been very professional about it all too. Could easily have been another dramafest :) | 02:24 |
diegoviola | right | 02:26 |
diegoviola | :) | 02:26 |
diegoviola | indeed | 02:26 |
fathin | o/ | 02:31 |
diegoviola | it's nice to see less egos clashing in the Free Software world, I'd like to see more people working together rather than infighting drama, etc :) | 02:32 |
fathin | mhm | 02:33 |
fathin | btw will tahr really released in gnome? | 02:34 |
rww | fathin: can you rephrase the question? i'm having trouble with it | 02:36 |
fathin | will tahr released in gnome environment and not unity? | 02:37 |
ianorlin | there is an ubuntu gnome flavor that releases gnome | 02:37 |
ianorlin | and the main ubuntu that releases unity | 02:37 |
fathin | well i downloaded daily build of 14.04 and it is in gnome. | 02:38 |
fathin | weird | 02:38 |
rww | what's the name of the file you downloaded? | 02:38 |
fathin | wait | 02:38 |
fathin | lemme check | 02:38 |
fathin | trusty-desktop-i386.iso | 02:40 |
rww | odd, that's the right iso | 02:41 |
fathin | or someone misplaced it? | 02:41 |
fathin | i downloaded the torrent ones | 02:42 |
Beldar | fathin, look famliar? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/ | 02:45 |
fathin | mhm | 02:45 |
fathin | that one, | 02:45 |
fathin | but 3 days ago | 02:46 |
fathin | 3 main dl i think | 02:46 |
Beldar | appears to be the gnome download this is the unity is my guess. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 02:47 |
rww | oh, there isn't a "gnome" somewhere in the ubuntu gnome ISO filenames? that's obnoxious | 02:48 |
fathin | that's the problem | 02:48 |
Beldar | both iso's are a different size, same dates same names, loil | 02:49 |
* rww asks #ubuntu-gnome about it | 02:50 | |
fathin | err. but i was sure it was exactly http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ since i saw the red text about oversized and stuff | 02:56 |
fathin | nvm i think it was my fault for not reading fully to begin with | 02:57 |
fathin | ahh found the prob. | 04:06 |
fathin | the main have no .torrent download | 04:07 |
fathin | so i downloaded the wrong one coz torrent keyword at my search | 04:07 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:07 |
FernandoMiguel | hey BluesKaj | 12:23 |
BluesKaj | Hi FernandoMiguel, LTNS | 12:24 |
FernandoMiguel | true | 12:24 |
BluesKaj | assume you've been busy | 12:24 |
FernandoMiguel | or just not coming around here much | 12:28 |
BluesKaj | where do you usually hang out on irc? | 12:30 |
FernandoMiguel | BluesKaj: android #s, ubuntu #s, and a portuguese network | 12:35 |
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belgianguy | Hi, will 14.04 ship with upstart or systemd? | 12:57 |
mamarley | Upstart | 12:58 |
belgianguy | ah, k, and is there a merge window planned? | 12:58 |
FernandoMiguel | belgianguy: only after debian does it thing | 13:02 |
FernandoMiguel | after that we should merge it ... and when found *as* stable, make it default | 13:02 |
FernandoMiguel | based on Mark's words | 13:02 |
belgianguy | thanks FernandoMiguel | 13:04 |
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pietro10 | well I now have more data on my fonts issue: if there's a fonts.conf file in my .config/fontconfig, then all programs display fonts incorrectly, not just GTK+ programs - this happened in the past, but at least now deleting fonts.conf fixes the KDE programs (which didn't happen before) - lack of fonts.conf, however, does not fix the GTK+ programs from rendering fonts incorrectly... Does KDE not use fontconfig by default or something? | 15:41 |
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pietro10 | actually, here's a picture; not sure why I didn't make one before - http://imgur.com/dyfjNcz left: GTK; right: KDE - I'm considering the GTK+ ones wrong | 15:53 |
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u-foka | Hy, does anyone know how to enable the tray icon of skype on trusty amd64? | 22:24 |
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ikonia | u-foka: maybe try in #ubuntu, this channel is for 14.04 | 22:50 |
penguin42 | trusty is 14.04 isn't it? | 22:50 |
ikonia | is it ? | 22:50 |
bekks | yes | 22:50 |
ikonia | oops, sorry | 22:50 |
ikonia | my fault, got my alphabet wrong | 22:51 |
u-foka | :D | 22:53 |
ikonia | u-foka: sorry about that | 22:54 |
rww | lol ikonia | 22:54 |
rww | this is the downside of half of the IRC Team using Debian | 22:55 |
u-foka | ikonia, np :) | 22:55 |
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