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huayrajtaylor, won't :)00:02
huayraI do have a USB key in case it blows up in my face00:02
huayraand /home is on its own partition since the end of the 90s ;)00:03
huayra'sed -i 's/saucy/trusty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list' + dpkg/apt magic did the trick...00:16
huayraupdating now00:16
bekksUpdate started ... - that does not mean it will finish without breaking your box.00:30
bekksThats called "unsupported".00:30
huayrabekks, I know... I used to test upgrading the init from a debian-edu (venus) to debian stable (on cds)00:32
huayraI still don't know what I am doing, but I am good at troubleshooting my own setup00:33
huayrayes, the init... parallel init. way before even upstart was designed :)00:33
huayragood times!00:33
bekksWhatever.00:34
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huayradone... let's see if it restarts01:06
huayraThanks for your help01:06
diegoviolahi02:08
diegoviolais ubuntu switching to systemd?02:09
rwwdiegoviola: yes02:09
diegoviolacool02:09
rwwnot for 14.04 though02:09
diegoviolagreat decision02:09
diegoviolai've been using systemd on other distros and it rocks02:09
rwwi agree :)02:09
diegoviolait's incredibly fast and reliable02:09
diegoviolai'm also happy that i can now expect things to act in a consistent way across distributions, things like systemctl start sshd, systemctl status sshd, etc02:11
diegoviolai can see those things making life easier02:11
rww*nod* I've used systemd on Debian and it works just fine, so I'm hoping Ubuntu doesn't need that much work to switch :)02:12
diegoviolacool... yeah :)02:12
diegoviolanice02:13
diegoviolaexciting times02:13
diegoviolanow that ubuntu will be adopting systemd, will canonical also contribute code to it?02:18
rwwno idea. probably a bit early for definite details like that :)02:18
diegoviolayeah i see02:18
diegoviolait would be nice if they do though02:19
diegoviolaanyway... i'm really happy about this, it has surprised me big time today when i heard of it02:21
diegoviola:)02:21
rwwMe too. I'm happy that the current Canonical folks have been very professional about it all too. Could easily have been another dramafest :)02:24
diegoviolaright02:26
diegoviola:)02:26
diegoviolaindeed02:26
fathino/02:31
diegoviolait's nice to see less egos clashing in the Free Software world, I'd like to see more people working together rather than  infighting drama, etc :)02:32
fathinmhm02:33
fathinbtw will tahr really released in gnome?02:34
rwwfathin: can you rephrase the question? i'm having trouble with it02:36
fathinwill tahr released in gnome environment and not unity?02:37
ianorlinthere is an ubuntu gnome flavor that releases gnome02:37
ianorlinand the main ubuntu that releases unity02:37
fathinwell i downloaded daily build of 14.04 and it is in gnome.02:38
fathinweird02:38
rwwwhat's the name of the file you downloaded?02:38
fathinwait02:38
fathinlemme check02:38
fathintrusty-desktop-i386.iso02:40
rwwodd, that's the right iso02:41
fathinor someone misplaced it?02:41
fathini downloaded the torrent ones02:42
Beldarfathin, look famliar? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/02:45
fathinmhm02:45
fathinthat one,02:45
fathinbut 3 days ago02:46
fathin3 main dl i think02:46
Beldarappears to be the gnome download this is the unity is my guess. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/02:47
rwwoh, there isn't a "gnome" somewhere in the ubuntu gnome ISO filenames? that's obnoxious02:48
fathinthat's the problem02:48
Beldarboth iso's are a different size, same dates same names, loil02:49
* rww asks #ubuntu-gnome about it02:50
fathinerr. but i was sure it was exactly http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ since i saw the red text about oversized and stuff02:56
fathinnvm i think it was my fault for not reading fully to begin with02:57
fathinahh found the prob.04:06
fathinthe main have no .torrent download04:07
fathinso i downloaded the wrong one coz torrent keyword at my search04:07
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BluesKajHiyas all12:07
FernandoMiguelhey BluesKaj12:23
BluesKajHi FernandoMiguel, LTNS12:24
FernandoMigueltrue12:24
BluesKajassume you've been busy12:24
FernandoMiguelor just not coming around here much12:28
BluesKajwhere do you usually hang out on irc?12:30
FernandoMiguelBluesKaj: android #s, ubuntu #s, and a portuguese network12:35
* BluesKaj nods12:36
belgianguyHi, will 14.04 ship with upstart or systemd?12:57
mamarleyUpstart12:58
belgianguyah, k, and is there a merge window planned?12:58
FernandoMiguelbelgianguy: only after debian does it thing13:02
FernandoMiguelafter that we should merge it ... and when found *as* stable, make it default13:02
FernandoMiguelbased on Mark's words13:02
belgianguythanks FernandoMiguel13:04
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pietro10well I now have more data on my fonts issue: if there's a fonts.conf file in my .config/fontconfig, then all programs display fonts incorrectly, not just GTK+ programs - this happened in the past, but at least now deleting fonts.conf fixes the KDE programs (which didn't happen before) - lack of fonts.conf, however, does not fix the GTK+ programs from rendering fonts incorrectly... Does KDE not use fontconfig by default or something?15:41
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pietro10actually, here's a picture; not sure why I didn't make one before - http://imgur.com/dyfjNcz left: GTK; right: KDE - I'm considering the GTK+ ones wrong15:53
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u-fokaHy, does anyone know how to enable the tray icon of skype on trusty amd64?22:24
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ikoniau-foka: maybe try in #ubuntu, this channel is for 14.0422:50
penguin42trusty is 14.04 isn't it?22:50
ikoniais it ?22:50
bekksyes22:50
ikoniaoops, sorry22:50
ikoniamy fault, got my alphabet wrong22:51
u-foka:D22:53
ikoniau-foka: sorry about that22:54
rwwlol ikonia22:54
rwwthis is the downside of half of the IRC Team using Debian22:55
u-fokaikonia, np :)22:55

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