[00:16] <phillw> Hi good people, can some one have a look into bug 964705 I thought it had been solved, but it seems solved everywhere but ubuntu
[00:16] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 964705 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/964705
[00:26] <lfaraone> that awkward moment when you reply to a mailing list posting and realise you are Wrong a few seconds afterwards.
[00:27] <lfaraone> albeit only partially
[00:44] <phillw> lfaraone: it is called life... we have all done it, do not beat your self up over it.
[01:15] <MichaelTunnell> hello, I submitted a bug in my package regarding the repo version but I have no received an update except from a bot turning it to "confirmed".
[01:16] <MichaelTunnell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uget/+bug/1278233
[01:16] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1278233 in uget (Ubuntu) "Update uGet for 14.04 Trusty Tahr (needs libappindicator)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[01:17] <MichaelTunnell> the same bug was reported in October of last year for an older package but no one (who could fix it) commented on it then either.
[01:17] <MichaelTunnell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uget/+bug/1246697
[01:17] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1246697 in uget (Ubuntu) "Uget tray icon not showing" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[01:18] <MichaelTunnell> the same bug was already reported 2 years ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uget/+bug/925137
[01:18] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 925137 in uget (Ubuntu) "uGet not built with AppIndicator support" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[01:18] <MichaelTunnell> so can I please get someone to help me fix the package?
[01:19] <TJ-> You should contact the package maintainer
[01:20] <MichaelTunnell> I did. He is the Debian guy for the package but he hasn't responded about it either
[01:20] <MichaelTunnell> all I need is to make it build with libappindicator...that's it
[01:22] <TJ-> Well it would be best to get the change into Debian and then sync with that, if he is maintainer for both, then he's the guy
[01:22] <teward> have you considered filing a bug on this in Debian?
[01:22] <teward> because that's probably the best way to get their attention
[01:22] <MichaelTunnell> but Debian doesn't use libappindicator, that is an Ubuntu package unless I'm mistaken
[01:23] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: Ahhh, I see what you mean, so there needs to be a diff between Debian and Ubuntu
[01:23] <MichaelTunnell> yes, and that is the only diff
[01:23] <teward> which release were you expecting to get this in
[01:23] <teward> because i think you might have a problem getting this SRU'd, and this would only get into trusty
[01:23] <teward> (this close to feature freeze, though... I dunno)
[01:23] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: Are you able to produce the diff/patch so the maintainer can merge it?
[01:23] <MichaelTunnell> 14.04 which it is already in the repo for 14.04 with our latest release...just that one feature is not
[01:24] <TJ-> I'd think if the maintainer has been lax, an FFE  wouldn't be rejected
[01:24] <MichaelTunnell> teward: I dont mind getting backports later as long as I can get it into trusty
[01:24] <teward> considering uget is in universe i don't think it *has* a maintainer
[01:24] <teward> or, at least not a maintainer in Ubuntu
[01:24] <MichaelTunnell> yea the maintainer is just the guy from debian
[01:24] <teward> (this is the case with a lot of packages)
[01:24] <MichaelTunnell> and he just pulls the debian version in
[01:25] <TJ-> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uget
[01:25] <teward> actually Ubuntu does that on their own
[01:25] <teward> :P
[01:25] <teward> autosyncs ;P
[01:25] <MichaelTunnell> ahh
[01:26] <TJ-> You'd need to grab a MOTU and offer them a patch, probably a bzr branch they can easily merge
[01:27] <MichaelTunnell> MOTU?
[01:27] <MichaelTunnell> what does that mean
[01:27] <TJ-> Masters of the Univerise
[01:27] <TJ-> s/Univerise/Universe/
[01:27] <MichaelTunnell> ok that makes even less sense
[01:27] <MichaelTunnell> lol
[01:27] <MichaelTunnell> oh ok
[01:27] <teward> actually you'd need a Sponsor
[01:27] <teward> not necessarily a MOTU
[01:27] <TJ-> The maintainers of the "Universe" pocket
[01:27] <teward> TJ-: perhaps you need to read up on sponsoring
[01:28] <teward> !sponsoring
[01:28] <ubot2`> You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess - For !UDS sponsorship see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/
[01:28] <teward> doesn't *require* a MOTU
[01:28] <teward> but they will critique your stuff
[01:28] <MichaelTunnell> not sure how to make a patch
[01:29] <MichaelTunnell> though we have a ppa with the correct stuff
[01:29] <MichaelTunnell> if that doesnt help I can contact the main developer and see if he will do it...I'm pretty much the designer with only slight programming...so this is past my skill level
[01:30] <TJ-> Where's your PPA?
[01:30] <MichaelTunnell> https://launchpad.net/~plushuang-tw
[01:30] <MichaelTunnell> only thing in there is uget
[01:30] <teward> you have two versions :p
[01:31] <teward> which one is based off the debian version
[01:31] <teward> or off the ubuntu version
[01:31] <teward> if neither are based off those then the patch has to be made by hand
[01:31] <MichaelTunnell> we made the ppa version before both
[01:31] <MichaelTunnell> so guess neither
[01:32] <MichaelTunnell> except for an old version but not recents
[01:32] <teward> what actually needs to be done to make this work
[01:32] <teward> i may be able to try and handwrite a debdiff for you assuming you have a bug for this
[01:33] <MichaelTunnell> libappindicator needs to be included in the Ubuntu package...thats the only thing wrong with the ubuntu version
[01:33] <teward> that's vague
[01:33] <teward> is it a build dep or a runtime dep or both :P
[01:33] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: I don't see any diff between your latest package and the one in Ubuntu
[01:33] <teward> next question is whether the two bugs on this are dupes of them
[01:33] <teward> (brb)
[01:34] <MichaelTunnell> one is an issue from an old version
[01:34] <MichaelTunnell> the 2012 bug is old
[01:34] <MichaelTunnell> my bug is for 1.10.4 and the other is for 1.10.3
[01:34] <TJ-> OK, my mistake, I ran against the wrong directory!
[01:34] <MichaelTunnell> though the difference between those two have nothing to do with libappindicator
[01:35] <MichaelTunnell> :)
[01:35] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: so all you want to add is debian/control Build-Depends "libappindicator3-dev,"
[01:35] <MichaelTunnell> that should be all that is needed but to be honest I am not totally sure as I'm just the lowly designer :)
[01:36] <TJ-> lets find out then
[01:38] <MichaelTunnell> thanks
[01:38] <MichaelTunnell> wait are you saying you are doing that or do Ineed to contact the dev?
[01:40] <TJ-> I'm doing it
[01:44] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: Do you have a clean Unity-based system you can test the binary on - one that hasn't had the package installed previously ? I don't use Gnome here so not sure if I can test it correctly
[01:46] <MichaelTunnell> I can load up a liveusb sure
[01:47] <TJ-> Hmm, it seems ok. On KDE I have a green "G" icon
[01:47] <MichaelTunnell> I havent tried it in kde on ubuntu
[01:47] <TJ-> I might have a clean desktop VM here, let me check
[01:47] <MichaelTunnell> ok
[02:13] <MichaelTunnell> where do I get the package to test it?
[02:14] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: http://iam.tj/projects/misc/uget-trusty-appindicator.png
[02:14] <TJ-> Is that correct?
[02:15] <teward> TJ-: did you build it locally on your system (pbuilder or sbuild or something?)
[02:16] <MichaelTunnell> TJ-: yep that looks good
[02:16] <MichaelTunnell> close the app and tell it to minimize to tray
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> then try "show main window" from tray
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> and that would mean it works fine
[02:20] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: Yes, that works
[02:20] <TJ-> teward: Yes
[02:25] <MichaelTunnell> then awesome
[02:25] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: OK, The bug is now linked to my bzr branch containing the fix, so you just to get it sponsored and merged
[02:25] <MichaelTunnell> i have no idea how to do that
[02:25] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: If you refresh the bug-page you'll see it under "Related branches"
[02:26] <MichaelTunnell> how do I get it sponsored?
[02:27] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[02:28] <MichaelTunnell> thanks
[02:32] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: I've proposed it for merge, you can watch its progress here:  https://code.launchpad.net/~tj/ubuntu/trusty/uget/lp1278233/+merge/206571
[02:34] <MichaelTunnell> sweet thanks
[02:34] <MichaelTunnell> do I still need to get it sponsored?
[02:35] <TJ-> It might help to get some attention, but the merge request should be seen in the queue, it just depends if anyone is interested/free enough
[02:37] <MichaelTunnell> I know someone from Canonical who might be wiling to throw some eyes at it (he isn't a developer which is why I didn't ask for help from him about this issue)
[02:38] <MichaelTunnell> thank you very much for your assistance
[02:39] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: You're welcome, fortunately for you it was a trivial patch :)
[02:40] <MichaelTunnell> :) indeed...we typically don't have large bugs so if we do have bugs it is usually something like this :)
[17:20] <phillw> bdmurray: ping.
[17:25] <phillw> hi.. any bug masters about?