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mappps#ARGH00:04
mapppsGOT SOAKED00:04
mappps2nd time00:04
mapppswasnt raining when i got to gym..leave starts bucketing down and ive got shorts on00:04
mapppsthought id be ok-5min walk00:05
mappps:(00:05
daftykinsD:00:07
mapppspoor old maps00:07
mapppsshouldve known00:07
mapppswear my jogging bottoms anyway just incase00:07
mapppscoats soaked through too..really really raining;/00:07
daftykinsnot waterproof!?00:08
mapppsi think it is its just u know when things get wet and it gets heavy and hot and sticky00:10
mapppsits one of them barbour jackets00:10
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diddledananyone still around?02:28
diddledanI'm trying to flash my galaxy nexus.. got to the point of actual flash, but there isn't any program by the name "ubuntu-device-flash" anywhere on my system02:30
diddledanI've added the ppa the instructions say to add and installed the relevant packages from there, but I only have phablet-flash02:30
diddledanwhich takes different options as far as I can work out02:31
diddledanhmm, seems the wiki was updated very recently to change the references to phablet-flash replacing them with ubuntu-device-flash - also removed a lot of other information on the channels02:37
daftykinstried the touch chan?02:40
diddledannope :-p02:42
diddledanit appears to be doing "something" now based on an archive copy of the install wiki page02:42
diddledanthe page I'm now reading was edited 4 days ago and is archive02:43
diddledanluckily I still had it open in a longlost browser window - there doesn't actually appear to be any way of retrieving this page directly from the wiki itself02:45
diddledanaah yes there is02:47
diddledanlooks like the changer was sergiusens02:47
diddledanisn't he important?02:47
diddledanhe should know what he's on about surely?!02:47
diddledanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=info02:47
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diddledanwow, first impressions of ubutouch are pretty positive - the graphical elements are purdy03:24
mapppshey06:04
knightwisemorning07:53
MartijnVdS\o08:51
dvrrHiiiiiiii09:15
dvrrgood morning09:15
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:17
MartijnVdS\o brobostigon10:25
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS10:25
popeymorning11:02
brobostigonmorning hrh popey11:06
foobarryk3b, clementine and rhythmbox fail to rip cds :(11:14
foobarryrhythmbox just hangs :(11:14
MartijnVdSfoobarry: sound-juicer?11:14
MartijnVdSfoobarry: what's the error message?11:14
MartijnVdSI've found that first inserting the CD, then starting sound-juicer works best for me11:14
foobarryno error. just waiting11:17
foobarryred circle on track111:18
foobarryestimated time unknown11:18
foobarrynotghing happens11:18
MartijnVdSfoobarry: what does "cdparanoia -Bvs" do? (do this in an empty/spare directory, it'll make .wavs)11:18
MartijnVdSfoobarry: that + flac -8 *wav + Musicbrainz picard ("picard ." -> search for CD -> click "tagger" link in browser)11:19
foobarryscsi_read error: sector=0 length=1 retry=211:21
foobarry                 Sense key: 3 ASC: 11 ASCQ: 511:21
foobarry                 Transport error: Medium reading data from medium11:21
foobarry                 System error: Input/output error11:21
foobarrydodgy cd?11:21
MartijnVdSI'd clean it, yes11:22
foobarrydoesnt even play. no wonder11:30
foobarry_MartijnVdS: how do you change the mp3 quality settings on s-juicer?11:43
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MartijnVdSfoobarry: it uses the gstreamer versions11:45
MartijnVdSfoobarry: profiles they're called, I think11:45
MartijnVdSanyway.. just rip to flac then run whatever conversion tool yourself ;)11:45
foobarrynot very wife friendly11:47
MartijnVdSfoobarry: no I mean.. rip to FLAC and have rhythmbox/banshee convert it to MP3 when you drag them onto an MP3 player/phone11:48
MartijnVdSbut if you really want to rip to mp3, you can change the gstreamer profiles.. there is a tool but I forgot the name.11:48
foobarrythink i raised a bug, it didnt work some time ago11:49
MartijnVdShttp://askubuntu.com/questions/149153/how-do-you-edit-the-preferred-format-settings-in-rhythmbox11:50
foobarryi think rhythmbox stopped reading the config files11:53
foobarrywill try sound0j11:53
foobarryi hate linux sometimes11:53
foobarry20 apps and all failsome11:53
foobarryhave to quit s-j to insert new cd11:54
MartijnVdSyeah that's a big bug11:54
MartijnVdSbut it's "not important" enough.. so it's been unfixed for 4 releases11:55
foobarry:'(11:55
Laneyblame blame blame11:56
Laneyresearch the problem(s) and help develop the fix11:56
foobarrydoes nobody rip stuff anymore?11:56
foobarryeasier said than done11:57
foobarryhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60285511:59
lubotu3Gnome bug 602855 in general "gvfsd trying to poke old mounts" [Normal,New]11:59
foobarryThis fixes the issue sound-juicer is hitting (sync cdda IO from a thread,12:02
foobarrythread dies, new CD, sync cdda IO from a new thread).12:02
foobarryThis does not fix the secondary issue described in12:02
foobarryhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602855#c10 which does not impact12:02
foobarrysound-juicer but could happen to others (sync cdda IO from a thread, thread12:02
foobarrystays alive, new CD, sync cdda IO from a new thread).12:02
lubotu3Gnome bug 602855 in general "gvfsd trying to poke old mounts" [Normal,New]12:02
Seeker`argh, why won't my screen stick to 1920x108013:28
Seeker`every time the montior goes to sleep / wakes up ,it resets to 720x57613:28
popeyew13:50
popeyhow are you setting it to 1080p?13:51
Seeker`popey: xrandr14:09
Seeker`popey: I've tried in xorg.conf, adding a new modline, setting a virtual resolution, usaing the nvidia application14:10
popeywhy not use the display thing?14:10
popeyit will remember then14:10
ali12341because it doesn't work with nvidia14:11
popeypretty sure it does14:12
ali12341it gives the appearence of working, but actually doesnot14:14
NET||abusehaving a fun steam problem today, enjoying the fun of optimus bumblebee stuff. If i run steam normally then add primusrun %command% to all the game startup options the games work, but the steam gui freezes and has to be killed.14:15
NET||abuseweird behaviour, but if i optirun -b primus steam  and take away the startup options from the games, it seems ok,14:15
NET||abuseodd one.14:15
Seeker`popey: it will change the resolution, then if you reboot, it goes back to 720x57614:41
popeynasty14:43
Seeker`really frustrating, as its my mythtv frontend14:43
Seeker`ali12341: you have experience of this problem?14:46
ali12341no14:46
ali12341have you saved the settings to xorg.conf?14:46
Seeker`ali12341:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6937552/14:49
ali12341set ignoreedid and manually limit the frequencies to the ones for 108014:52
ali12341just ignoreedid might be enough14:52
ali12341i'm guessing that's a TV, TVs always lie on the supported refresh rates for some reason14:53
Seeker`ali12341: Option "IgnoreEDID" "TRUE" in the monitor section?14:53
ali12341i can't remember what section it goes in but yes14:53
ali12341apparently you have to use the "useedid" option now14:54
Seeker`ali12341: where is that information form?14:57
ali12341the nvidia driver readme14:57
Seeker`ali12341: turning off EDID just makes it set to 800x600, with nothing on the screen15:21
ali12341you have to specify horizontal and vertical refresh rates that will only allow it to select the mode you want15:21
Seeker`any hints on how to do that?15:22
ali12341set the mode you want15:22
ali12341look at the refresh rates with xrandr15:23
ali12341put them in xorg.conf +/- 0.115:23
Seeker`ali12341: not sure how to get the horizontal rate from xrandr15:28
ali12341nvidia control panel might also tell you15:29
foobarrySeeker`: run the display thing as sudo16:16
foobarrysave to xorg.conf16:16
mapppsstrange sometimes when using chan4 live it says not enough bw16:30
MartijnVdS4chan live?16:31
daftykinsXD16:31
mapppschan4:D16:32
daftykinsi don't think their setup is too great16:32
MartijnVdSdaftykins: now you can't think of anything else while watching C4 ;)16:32
mappps4od works fine16:32
daftykinsit's ok MartijnVdS - i do neither :D16:32
foobarryhow do u watch 4od?16:38
mapppschannel4.cm16:40
foobarrywhich os?16:41
mapppswin16:41
foobarryoh ok16:42
knightwisehey everyone16:55
knightwisedoes anybody around here know about a bug with the mac keyboard settings on 13.10 ?16:55
MartijnVdSwhat's the bug?16:56
knightwisei have french macintosh as the keyboard layout16:57
knightwiseit gives me an indicator up top16:57
MartijnVdSnah, you only get the indicator if you have > 1 keyboard layout configured16:57
knightwisebut when I type something the keyboard layout is standard french16:57
MartijnVdSremove the other layout and you should be fine16:57
knightwiseMartijnVdS: And yet i've thrown away all the other ones16:57
daftykinssacre bleu!16:58
MartijnVdSknightwise: don't use French keyboards :P16:58
knightwiseyes , very helpfull16:58
knightwisebelgians = Azerty16:58
knightwisebelgian macs have french azerty layouts16:58
knightwiseis there a config file where I can check this ?16:59
* MartijnVdS only knows US-International-AltGrDeadkeys16:59
MartijnVdSknightwise: open the keyboard preferences screen16:59
knightwisegot it17:00
mapppshm17:00
mapppsso its not a normal keyboard?17:00
knightwiselayout settings17:00
MartijnVdSknightwise: can you upload a screenshot (Alt+Prtinscreen) somewhere?17:00
MartijnVdSmappps: it's an Apple-brand one17:00
mapppsoh17:00
MartijnVdSthey're weird17:00
mapppsthose looks fancy17:00
knightwisei'm gonna try something , be back later,17:01
MartijnVdSgood luck!17:01
* knightwise hates apple keyboards17:02
mapppsjudge judys on all the time on cbs reality17:02
mapppsand its so good17:02
mappps:D17:02
mapppsmy name is jack bauer17:39
mapppscant wait for new 2417:39
Mad-Professorhey all18:19
Mad-Professori would like some assistence please18:20
Mad-Professori am new to this18:20
Mad-Professori would like some1 to see my logs for start up and shut down18:20
Mad-ProfessorI have ubuntu on my laptop with KDE desktop18:21
penguin42Mad-Professor: #ubuntu for questions generally, and the best way to get someone to look at the logs is to describe your problem and use a pastebin to upload them18:21
Mad-Professorkool thankx sir18:21
penguin42Mad-Professor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/  also you can use the pastebinit program to upload them18:24
Mad-Professori have uploaded - any other logs to upload?18:34
DJonesDon't you just love people who think they own the roads https://twitter.com/TVP_Windsor/status/434743268719755264/photo/119:06
foobarrywhat if there's no other way?19:25
foobarrybeen in cornwall/devon before when the only road out of there is flooded19:25
foobarryhence all the 4x4s19:26
foobarryfell on the stairs while holding baby :(19:44
foobarrythink i hurt her :(19:46
SuperEngineererrrmmm... why are you discussing it here rather than phoning a doctor foobarry19:48
* penguin42 has heard it said he was dropped down the stairs as a baby19:50
SuperEngineer:)19:51
MartijnVdSpenguin42: said as if that explains *everything*?19:51
foobarrycos wife took her to walk-in this evening19:51
penguin42MartijnVdS: Indeed19:52
foobarryisn't this #nhs-uk chan?19:53
penguin42yeh, it's too responsive19:53
foobarrycurling looks like a fun sport19:53
foobarry"hot. cool. yours" sounds like a coffee shop19:56
maps|workhello20:04
MartijnVdS\o mapster20:04
maps|workwhats up?20:04
maps|workim watching this rubbish Splash20:04
maps|work;]20:04
* MartijnVdS is playing with chef and vms20:05
MartijnVdSVMs, not VMS ;)20:05
maps|workhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560239/What-earth-thinking-Mystery-buyer-snaps-clifftop-home-destined-crumble-North-Sea.html20:06
maps|workHouse in Easton Bavents near Southwold, Suffolk, was a mile inland in 17th century but is now just 26ft from edge20:06
maps|workthats crazy!"20:06
MartijnVdSmaps|work: erosion at work20:06
MartijnVdSshould have built a dam -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works ;)20:06
MartijnVdSthough we have similar erosion issues here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rottumerplaat20:07
maps|workbut a mile to 26ft is quite something?20:07
MartijnVdSmaps|work: in 400 years!20:07
maps|workbla bla bla Hollands the best yes MartijnVdS ?20:07
maps|work:P20:07
maps|work:)20:07
MartijnVdSthat's only 4 meters/year20:07
maps|workyea thats true20:08
MartijnVdSmaps|work: at managing water things? Sure ;)20:08
maps|workstill a mile to 26ft sounds a lot..lets not get into technical details..ie time frame;p20:08
penguin42we should get some more Dutch sea walls built20:09
maps|worknot many dutch people in the uk20:09
maps|workevery other nation..but i dont think ive ever come across any dutch folk20:09
penguin42they're not that far away20:09
maps|workyea20:09
maps|workbut i mean ive come across plenty of french/german well not plenty but some20:10
penguin42maps|work: There is a canal near Cambridge where they got the dutch to build it - dead straight for many miles - easy to find on google maps20:10
MartijnVdSI know a guy who moved to Leeds from .nl20:10
MartijnVdSand a few ex-coworkers who moved to London20:10
maps|workhow does he find it? Leeds is a dump i thought?20:10
MartijnVdSmaps|work: I think he likes it.20:10
maps|workI dont think id be able to live in another country permanently too settled in .uk20:11
maps|worki dont mind going abroad..but it''s so different, im comfortable here in my routine20:11
MartijnVdSsame for me, s/uk/nl/20:11
maps|workchange is bad:)20:11
MartijnVdSThough I love visiting .uk ;)20:11
maps|workDidn't you come here to see some band?20:12
MartijnVdSmaps|work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/11477796716/20:12
maps|workhm cant flickr is blocked at work..stupid policy blocks webmail/photo sites bla bla bla20:12
foobarrydid anyone see the quad bike => jet ski in top gear?20:12
maps|work:)20:12
maps|workdid you take eurostar?20:12
maps|workive got top gear on atm20:12
MartijnVdSmaps|work: I took Eurostar once, it's great :)20:13
foobarryi took it business class, rather pleassant20:13
maps|workbut expensive when i looked?20:13
maps|workcompared to flying i think20:13
MartijnVdSmaps|work: but for that concert, I went to Gatwick :)20:13
maps|workhow much diff is business class to normal?20:13
foobarryhaven't seen normal20:14
foobarrybut its probably wider seats and nicer food20:14
maps|workon virgin trains first class is nice...i always pay for first class when travelling to euston20:14
maps|workyea20:14
foobarryi think they offered me prem class food once20:14
foobarrybecause they had spare dishes20:14
MartijnVdSmaps|work: I've also taken the boat from Rotterdam to Harwich (and drove to Land's End)20:14
foobarryour CEO was on train and shared a table with thierry henry20:14
maps|workfree food/drink and 2seats a side rather than 3 :) and a table..used to hate haing to try and find a table in normal class..because never can20:14
MartijnVdSmaps|work: That was a great summer holiday :)20:14
maps|worknice20:15
maps|workon your own?20:15
MartijnVdSmaps|work: who me?20:15
maps|workand drive?!?! pah ..im shocked you even have a license ..thought it's all about bikes:D20:15
maps|workyea20:15
MartijnVdSmaps|work: Yeah, solo trip :)20:15
maps|workah i dont like solo trips20:15
maps|worki wouldnt feel comfortable20:16
MartijnVdSmaps|work: https://plus.google.com/photos/100189567362844794281/albums/5877491002319853233/5877491010391899122?pid=5877491010391899122&oid=10018956736284479428120:16
MartijnVdSmaps|work: speaking the language fluently helps with the comfort ;)20:16
penguin42MartijnVdS: Excellently penguin coloured20:16
MartijnVdSmaps|work: (note the front left tire -- had to get that fixed while popey drowned me in tea :P)20:16
maps|workyea thats true -- i guess Holland solo would be way better than say Czech Republic solo20:17
maps|workeveryone in Holland understands me..whereas czech rep id feel totally alone lol20:17
maps|workalthough america alone? still english but not sure id want to20:17
MartijnVdSmaps|work: sue everyone!20:18
foobarrywho's sue?20:18
MartijnVdSpenguin42: Bright yellow!20:18
MartijnVdSfoobarry: Some American, I guess? ;)20:18
foobarrysosumi20:18
MartijnVdSfoobarry: sounds Japanese20:18
maps|workso you went to Somerset20:19
maps|workwith all the farmers?:D20:19
MartijnVdSI thought "tiramisu" was Japanese until I learned it's Italian 8-)20:19
maps|workmust've stuck out a mile heh20:19
maps|workanyone does without the farmer accent20:19
MartijnVdSmaps|work: I went all the way to the tip of Cornwall :)20:19
foobarrythe best bits20:19
foobarrythe tip of cornwall is in dorset atm20:20
foobarrydue to the rest being underwater20:20
MartijnVdSfoobarry: so I heard.20:20
penguin42and is probably underwater20:20
penguin42foobarry: Hehe yes20:20
foobarrythere's nothing more enjoyable than a boy pretending to fly a plane/drive a train/car20:21
foobarryin a stationary real one20:21
MartijnVdS*prrrrrrrrr!*20:22
foobarryhe seems at his happiest in those places20:22
maps|workhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560093/Schoolboy-16-wrote-chilling-letter-Moors-murderer-Ian-Brady-detailing-murder-plot-creeping-boys-bedroom-attacking-hammer.html how strange some people are20:23
MartijnVdSdaily fail20:23
maps|workpfft20:24
foobarryat least the url summarieses the story20:24
foobarryannoyed when the 3-car-owning family in the cul de sac parks outside our house so we have to carry 2 children 50 yds to next parking space20:25
foobarrythere's an unwritten rule in cul de sacs. one car outside your house. extra cars get out of the road20:26
MartijnVdSunless they all fit in your own drive20:27
maps|worki have a space which is enough for 2 cars20:27
maps|workbut i have 020:27
maps|workyea20:27
MartijnVdSmaps|work: get a bunch of Smart cars, you'll fit 3 easily ;)20:27
maps|worklol20:27
maps|workjust get 3 for the sake of it..to make the space filled? or claim its some kind of odd modern art:D20:27
MartijnVdSyes. ;)20:27
penguin42foobarry: Get a big heavy estate and just push theirs out of the way20:28
maps|workMammoth runaway SNOWBALL weighing 800lbs knocks through U.S. college dorm wall after students lose control of it as they are egged on by crowds LOL 800lb snowball20:28
MartijnVdSpenguin42: "My other car is a Caterpillar"20:28
penguin42MartijnVdS: My dads was a volvo estate, it used to be able to nudge the neighbours car out of the way20:28
MartijnVdSpenguin42: oh I'm sure it could :) I've seen those things.. they're battleships20:29
MartijnVdSor built like them anyway20:29
maps|workjust reading of someone who had been drinking and taking cocaine so decides to climb up a house and in through the window and slips..i wouldnt do it SOBER!20:29
maps|workdidnt volvo drivers used to have a bad rep?20:30
MartijnVdSthey did, until Audi drivers arrived ;)20:30
maps|workheh20:30
MartijnVdSat least, that's how it went here20:30
foobarrypenguin42: i have a big heavy estate :D20:33
foobarryMartijnVdS: http://imgur.com/Zt8ai3h20:33
maps|workive got this qwebirc workiing well-just need to figure out how to smake it not display the channel name in title bar of the page20:33
MartijnVdSROFL :)20:33
maps|workdownloades all of hemlock grove..will gibve me something to do tomorrow:)21:07
* MartijnVdS listens to the Cryptonomicon ebook21:09
maps|workwhats that?:D21:12
MartijnVdSmaps|work: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/816.Cryptonomicon21:13
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maps|worksfw?21:27
MartijnVdSmaps|work: it's a book21:29
MartijnVdSmaps|work: it contains some NSFW words, but that goodreads page should be safe :)21:29
MartijnVdS(it's just a collection of reviews etc.)21:29
maps|work:)21:37
MartijnVdSthe book is one of my favourites :)21:37
MartijnVdSJamesTait: It's World Pangolin Day! How could we have missed this?21:39
MartijnVdSJamesTait: :)21:39
MartijnVdSJamesTait: http://thebrainscoop.tumblr.com/post/76766600941/happy-world-pangolin-day-this-is-the-endangered21:39
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)21:54
MartijnVdSbigcalm: you're jet-lagged.21:57
bigcalmMartijnVdS: or I don't know any other greeting ;P22:01
MartijnVdS"g'day mates"22:01
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penguin42is anyone else on virgin media cable, running their cable modem in 'modem mode' and understand wth VM do to their dhcp?23:02
popeyeh?23:04
popeyi have a vm superhub in modem only mode23:04
popeyand a ddwrt box in front of it which sees the WAN IP23:04
penguin42popey: What have you got it connected to?23:04
popeyNetgear WNDR370023:05
penguin42popey: I have it connected to an Ubuntu-server box running Shorewall and the kernel is rejecting the modems dhcp packets as martians23:05
popeyhm, odd23:06
popeyooh, just telnetted into my router23:07
popeynot done that in a long while, like over 2 years23:07
ali12341penguin42: did you register the mac?23:07
popeydo you still have to do that?23:07
ali12341probably23:07
penguin42popey: It's only at startup, once it's got a connection (i.e. I manually configure the network interface onto 192.168.100.x to match the modems diag ip and then login - it hten gets it ok)23:07
ali12341why would they change it?23:07
penguin42ali12341: But it's in modem mode - you can't register anything23:08
ali12341sure you can23:08
penguin42ali12341: And in this case it's the Linux box that's rejecting the DHCP from the modem not the other way around23:08
ali12341how can you tell?23:08
penguin42ali12341: How - everything is greyed out in modem mode except a button to take it back to router mode and a status button23:09
ali12341yes23:09
penguin42ali12341: 1) It doesn't actually get an IP   2) IPv4: martian source 255.255.255.255 from 10.34.180.1, on dev brinternet23:09
ali12341in modem mode DHCP does not come from the modem23:09
ali12341it comes from virgin's network23:09
ali12341you have to register the mac of your router with virgin or else you won't get a valid DHCP response23:10
penguin42but given that VMs DHCP server is serving from 10.34.180.1 an IP address on 82.27.172.x, giving a gateway IP of 86.7.101.1 and then embedded a rfc1048 extension of a default gatway of 82.27.172.1 I'm not surprised it's upset23:10
penguin42ali12341: Register it where?23:10
penguin42ali12341: The only registration I've seen is on the router in router mode23:10
popeyno, on vm website23:11
* penguin42 has never done that23:11
popeyalthough I don't recall doing that when I switched to modem mode23:11
penguin42(brb)23:11
ali12341you either use the special installed CD that does it all for you (windows only of course) or you go to a special URL a bit like a captive portal23:11
ali12341this information is several years out of date23:12
ali12341apparently virgin got rid of all that stuff23:14
penguin42ah ok, yeh didn't need to do any of that23:19

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