[00:04] #ARGH [00:04] GOT SOAKED [00:04] 2nd time [00:04] wasnt raining when i got to gym..leave starts bucketing down and ive got shorts on [00:05] thought id be ok-5min walk [00:05] :( [00:07] D: [00:07] poor old maps [00:07] shouldve known [00:07] wear my jogging bottoms anyway just incase [00:07] coats soaked through too..really really raining;/ [00:08] not waterproof!? [00:10] i think it is its just u know when things get wet and it gets heavy and hot and sticky [00:10] its one of them barbour jackets === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [02:28] anyone still around? [02:30] I'm trying to flash my galaxy nexus.. got to the point of actual flash, but there isn't any program by the name "ubuntu-device-flash" anywhere on my system [02:30] I've added the ppa the instructions say to add and installed the relevant packages from there, but I only have phablet-flash [02:31] which takes different options as far as I can work out [02:37] hmm, seems the wiki was updated very recently to change the references to phablet-flash replacing them with ubuntu-device-flash - also removed a lot of other information on the channels [02:40] tried the touch chan? [02:42] nope :-p [02:42] it appears to be doing "something" now based on an archive copy of the install wiki page [02:43] the page I'm now reading was edited 4 days ago and is archive [02:45] luckily I still had it open in a longlost browser window - there doesn't actually appear to be any way of retrieving this page directly from the wiki itself [02:47] aah yes there is [02:47] looks like the changer was sergiusens [02:47] isn't he important? [02:47] he should know what he's on about surely?! [02:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=info === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [03:24] wow, first impressions of ubutouch are pretty positive - the graphical elements are purdy [06:04] hey [07:53] morning [08:51] \o [09:15] Hiiiiiiii [09:15] good morning === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:17] morning boys and girls. [10:25] \o brobostigon [10:25] morning MartijnVdS [11:02] morning [11:06] morning hrh popey [11:14] k3b, clementine and rhythmbox fail to rip cds :( [11:14] rhythmbox just hangs :( [11:14] foobarry: sound-juicer? [11:14] foobarry: what's the error message? [11:14] I've found that first inserting the CD, then starting sound-juicer works best for me [11:17] no error. just waiting [11:18] red circle on track1 [11:18] estimated time unknown [11:18] notghing happens [11:18] foobarry: what does "cdparanoia -Bvs" do? (do this in an empty/spare directory, it'll make .wavs) [11:19] foobarry: that + flac -8 *wav + Musicbrainz picard ("picard ." -> search for CD -> click "tagger" link in browser) [11:21] scsi_read error: sector=0 length=1 retry=2 [11:21] Sense key: 3 ASC: 11 ASCQ: 5 [11:21] Transport error: Medium reading data from medium [11:21] System error: Input/output error [11:21] dodgy cd? [11:22] I'd clean it, yes [11:30] doesnt even play. no wonder [11:43] MartijnVdS: how do you change the mp3 quality settings on s-juicer? === foobarry_ is now known as foobarry [11:45] foobarry: it uses the gstreamer versions [11:45] foobarry: profiles they're called, I think [11:45] anyway.. just rip to flac then run whatever conversion tool yourself ;) [11:47] not very wife friendly [11:48] foobarry: no I mean.. rip to FLAC and have rhythmbox/banshee convert it to MP3 when you drag them onto an MP3 player/phone [11:48] but if you really want to rip to mp3, you can change the gstreamer profiles.. there is a tool but I forgot the name. [11:49] think i raised a bug, it didnt work some time ago [11:50] http://askubuntu.com/questions/149153/how-do-you-edit-the-preferred-format-settings-in-rhythmbox [11:53] i think rhythmbox stopped reading the config files [11:53] will try sound0j [11:53] i hate linux sometimes [11:53] 20 apps and all failsome [11:54] have to quit s-j to insert new cd [11:54] yeah that's a big bug [11:55] but it's "not important" enough.. so it's been unfixed for 4 releases [11:55] :'( [11:56] blame blame blame [11:56] research the problem(s) and help develop the fix [11:56] does nobody rip stuff anymore? [11:57] easier said than done [11:59] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602855 [11:59] Gnome bug 602855 in general "gvfsd trying to poke old mounts" [Normal,New] [12:02] This fixes the issue sound-juicer is hitting (sync cdda IO from a thread, [12:02] thread dies, new CD, sync cdda IO from a new thread). [12:02] This does not fix the secondary issue described in [12:02] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602855#c10 which does not impact [12:02] sound-juicer but could happen to others (sync cdda IO from a thread, thread [12:02] stays alive, new CD, sync cdda IO from a new thread). [12:02] Gnome bug 602855 in general "gvfsd trying to poke old mounts" [Normal,New] [13:28] argh, why won't my screen stick to 1920x1080 [13:28] every time the montior goes to sleep / wakes up ,it resets to 720x576 [13:50] ew [13:51] how are you setting it to 1080p? [14:09] popey: xrandr [14:10] popey: I've tried in xorg.conf, adding a new modline, setting a virtual resolution, usaing the nvidia application [14:10] why not use the display thing? [14:10] it will remember then [14:11] because it doesn't work with nvidia [14:12] pretty sure it does [14:14] it gives the appearence of working, but actually doesnot [14:15] having a fun steam problem today, enjoying the fun of optimus bumblebee stuff. If i run steam normally then add primusrun %command% to all the game startup options the games work, but the steam gui freezes and has to be killed. [14:15] weird behaviour, but if i optirun -b primus steam and take away the startup options from the games, it seems ok, [14:15] odd one. [14:41] popey: it will change the resolution, then if you reboot, it goes back to 720x576 [14:43] nasty [14:43] really frustrating, as its my mythtv frontend [14:46] ali12341: you have experience of this problem? [14:46] no [14:46] have you saved the settings to xorg.conf? [14:49] ali12341: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6937552/ [14:52] set ignoreedid and manually limit the frequencies to the ones for 1080 [14:52] just ignoreedid might be enough [14:53] i'm guessing that's a TV, TVs always lie on the supported refresh rates for some reason [14:53] ali12341: Option "IgnoreEDID" "TRUE" in the monitor section? [14:53] i can't remember what section it goes in but yes [14:54] apparently you have to use the "useedid" option now [14:57] ali12341: where is that information form? [14:57] the nvidia driver readme [15:21] ali12341: turning off EDID just makes it set to 800x600, with nothing on the screen [15:21] you have to specify horizontal and vertical refresh rates that will only allow it to select the mode you want [15:22] any hints on how to do that? [15:22] set the mode you want [15:23] look at the refresh rates with xrandr [15:23] put them in xorg.conf +/- 0.1 [15:28] ali12341: not sure how to get the horizontal rate from xrandr [15:29] nvidia control panel might also tell you [16:16] Seeker`: run the display thing as sudo [16:16] save to xorg.conf [16:30] strange sometimes when using chan4 live it says not enough bw [16:31] 4chan live? [16:31] XD [16:32] chan4:D [16:32] i don't think their setup is too great [16:32] daftykins: now you can't think of anything else while watching C4 ;) [16:32] 4od works fine [16:32] it's ok MartijnVdS - i do neither :D [16:38] how do u watch 4od? [16:40] channel4.cm [16:41] which os? [16:41] win [16:42] oh ok [16:55] hey everyone [16:55] does anybody around here know about a bug with the mac keyboard settings on 13.10 ? [16:56] what's the bug? [16:57] i have french macintosh as the keyboard layout [16:57] it gives me an indicator up top [16:57] nah, you only get the indicator if you have > 1 keyboard layout configured [16:57] but when I type something the keyboard layout is standard french [16:57] remove the other layout and you should be fine [16:57] MartijnVdS: And yet i've thrown away all the other ones [16:58] sacre bleu! [16:58] knightwise: don't use French keyboards :P [16:58] yes , very helpfull [16:58] belgians = Azerty [16:58] belgian macs have french azerty layouts [16:59] is there a config file where I can check this ? [16:59] * MartijnVdS only knows US-International-AltGrDeadkeys [16:59] knightwise: open the keyboard preferences screen [17:00] got it [17:00] hm [17:00] so its not a normal keyboard? [17:00] layout settings [17:00] knightwise: can you upload a screenshot (Alt+Prtinscreen) somewhere? [17:00] mappps: it's an Apple-brand one [17:00] oh [17:00] they're weird [17:00] those looks fancy [17:01] i'm gonna try something , be back later, [17:01] good luck! [17:02] * knightwise hates apple keyboards [17:02] judge judys on all the time on cbs reality [17:02] and its so good [17:02] :D [17:39] my name is jack bauer [17:39] cant wait for new 24 [18:19] hey all [18:20] i would like some assistence please [18:20] i am new to this [18:20] i would like some1 to see my logs for start up and shut down [18:21] I have ubuntu on my laptop with KDE desktop [18:21] Mad-Professor: #ubuntu for questions generally, and the best way to get someone to look at the logs is to describe your problem and use a pastebin to upload them [18:21] kool thankx sir [18:24] Mad-Professor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ also you can use the pastebinit program to upload them [18:34] i have uploaded - any other logs to upload? [19:06] Don't you just love people who think they own the roads https://twitter.com/TVP_Windsor/status/434743268719755264/photo/1 [19:25] what if there's no other way? [19:25] been in cornwall/devon before when the only road out of there is flooded [19:26] hence all the 4x4s [19:44] fell on the stairs while holding baby :( [19:46] think i hurt her :( [19:48] errrmmm... why are you discussing it here rather than phoning a doctor foobarry [19:50] * penguin42 has heard it said he was dropped down the stairs as a baby [19:51] :) [19:51] penguin42: said as if that explains *everything*? [19:51] cos wife took her to walk-in this evening [19:52] MartijnVdS: Indeed [19:53] isn't this #nhs-uk chan? [19:53] yeh, it's too responsive [19:53] curling looks like a fun sport [19:56] "hot. cool. yours" sounds like a coffee shop [20:04] hello [20:04] \o mapster [20:04] whats up? [20:04] im watching this rubbish Splash [20:04] ;] [20:05] * MartijnVdS is playing with chef and vms [20:05] VMs, not VMS ;) [20:06] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560239/What-earth-thinking-Mystery-buyer-snaps-clifftop-home-destined-crumble-North-Sea.html [20:06] House in Easton Bavents near Southwold, Suffolk, was a mile inland in 17th century but is now just 26ft from edge [20:06] thats crazy!" [20:06] maps|work: erosion at work [20:06] should have built a dam -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works ;) [20:07] though we have similar erosion issues here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rottumerplaat [20:07] but a mile to 26ft is quite something? [20:07] maps|work: in 400 years! [20:07] bla bla bla Hollands the best yes MartijnVdS ? [20:07] :P [20:07] :) [20:07] that's only 4 meters/year [20:08] yea thats true [20:08] maps|work: at managing water things? Sure ;) [20:08] still a mile to 26ft sounds a lot..lets not get into technical details..ie time frame;p [20:09] we should get some more Dutch sea walls built [20:09] not many dutch people in the uk [20:09] every other nation..but i dont think ive ever come across any dutch folk [20:09] they're not that far away [20:09] yea [20:10] but i mean ive come across plenty of french/german well not plenty but some [20:10] maps|work: There is a canal near Cambridge where they got the dutch to build it - dead straight for many miles - easy to find on google maps [20:10] I know a guy who moved to Leeds from .nl [20:10] and a few ex-coworkers who moved to London [20:10] how does he find it? Leeds is a dump i thought? [20:10] maps|work: I think he likes it. [20:11] I dont think id be able to live in another country permanently too settled in .uk [20:11] i dont mind going abroad..but it''s so different, im comfortable here in my routine [20:11] same for me, s/uk/nl/ [20:11] change is bad:) [20:11] Though I love visiting .uk ;) [20:12] Didn't you come here to see some band? [20:12] maps|work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/11477796716/ [20:12] hm cant flickr is blocked at work..stupid policy blocks webmail/photo sites bla bla bla [20:12] did anyone see the quad bike => jet ski in top gear? [20:12] :) [20:12] did you take eurostar? [20:12] ive got top gear on atm [20:13] maps|work: I took Eurostar once, it's great :) [20:13] i took it business class, rather pleassant [20:13] but expensive when i looked? [20:13] compared to flying i think [20:13] maps|work: but for that concert, I went to Gatwick :) [20:13] how much diff is business class to normal? [20:14] haven't seen normal [20:14] but its probably wider seats and nicer food [20:14] on virgin trains first class is nice...i always pay for first class when travelling to euston [20:14] yea [20:14] i think they offered me prem class food once [20:14] because they had spare dishes [20:14] maps|work: I've also taken the boat from Rotterdam to Harwich (and drove to Land's End) [20:14] our CEO was on train and shared a table with thierry henry [20:14] free food/drink and 2seats a side rather than 3 :) and a table..used to hate haing to try and find a table in normal class..because never can [20:14] maps|work: That was a great summer holiday :) [20:15] nice [20:15] on your own? [20:15] maps|work: who me? [20:15] and drive?!?! pah ..im shocked you even have a license ..thought it's all about bikes:D [20:15] yea [20:15] maps|work: Yeah, solo trip :) [20:15] ah i dont like solo trips [20:16] i wouldnt feel comfortable [20:16] maps|work: https://plus.google.com/photos/100189567362844794281/albums/5877491002319853233/5877491010391899122?pid=5877491010391899122&oid=100189567362844794281 [20:16] maps|work: speaking the language fluently helps with the comfort ;) [20:16] MartijnVdS: Excellently penguin coloured [20:16] maps|work: (note the front left tire -- had to get that fixed while popey drowned me in tea :P) [20:17] yea thats true -- i guess Holland solo would be way better than say Czech Republic solo [20:17] everyone in Holland understands me..whereas czech rep id feel totally alone lol [20:17] although america alone? still english but not sure id want to [20:18] maps|work: sue everyone! [20:18] who's sue? [20:18] penguin42: Bright yellow! [20:18] foobarry: Some American, I guess? ;) [20:18] sosumi [20:18] foobarry: sounds Japanese [20:19] so you went to Somerset [20:19] with all the farmers?:D [20:19] I thought "tiramisu" was Japanese until I learned it's Italian 8-) [20:19] must've stuck out a mile heh [20:19] anyone does without the farmer accent [20:19] maps|work: I went all the way to the tip of Cornwall :) [20:19] the best bits [20:20] the tip of cornwall is in dorset atm [20:20] due to the rest being underwater [20:20] foobarry: so I heard. [20:20] and is probably underwater [20:20] foobarry: Hehe yes [20:21] there's nothing more enjoyable than a boy pretending to fly a plane/drive a train/car [20:21] in a stationary real one [20:22] *prrrrrrrrr!* [20:22] he seems at his happiest in those places [20:23] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560093/Schoolboy-16-wrote-chilling-letter-Moors-murderer-Ian-Brady-detailing-murder-plot-creeping-boys-bedroom-attacking-hammer.html how strange some people are [20:23] daily fail [20:24] pfft [20:24] at least the url summarieses the story [20:25] annoyed when the 3-car-owning family in the cul de sac parks outside our house so we have to carry 2 children 50 yds to next parking space [20:26] there's an unwritten rule in cul de sacs. one car outside your house. extra cars get out of the road [20:27] unless they all fit in your own drive [20:27] i have a space which is enough for 2 cars [20:27] but i have 0 [20:27] yea [20:27] maps|work: get a bunch of Smart cars, you'll fit 3 easily ;) [20:27] lol [20:27] just get 3 for the sake of it..to make the space filled? or claim its some kind of odd modern art:D [20:27] yes. ;) [20:28] foobarry: Get a big heavy estate and just push theirs out of the way [20:28] Mammoth runaway SNOWBALL weighing 800lbs knocks through U.S. college dorm wall after students lose control of it as they are egged on by crowds LOL 800lb snowball [20:28] penguin42: "My other car is a Caterpillar" [20:28] MartijnVdS: My dads was a volvo estate, it used to be able to nudge the neighbours car out of the way [20:29] penguin42: oh I'm sure it could :) I've seen those things.. they're battleships [20:29] or built like them anyway [20:29] just reading of someone who had been drinking and taking cocaine so decides to climb up a house and in through the window and slips..i wouldnt do it SOBER! [20:30] didnt volvo drivers used to have a bad rep? [20:30] they did, until Audi drivers arrived ;) [20:30] heh [20:30] at least, that's how it went here [20:33] penguin42: i have a big heavy estate :D [20:33] MartijnVdS: http://imgur.com/Zt8ai3h [20:33] ive got this qwebirc workiing well-just need to figure out how to smake it not display the channel name in title bar of the page [20:33] ROFL :) [21:07] downloades all of hemlock grove..will gibve me something to do tomorrow:) [21:09] * MartijnVdS listens to the Cryptonomicon ebook [21:12] whats that?:D [21:13] maps|work: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/816.Cryptonomicon === sdfsdfsgfsdfs is now known as dubysa [21:27] sfw? [21:29] maps|work: it's a book [21:29] maps|work: it contains some NSFW words, but that goodreads page should be safe :) [21:29] (it's just a collection of reviews etc.) [21:37] :) [21:37] the book is one of my favourites :) [21:39] JamesTait: It's World Pangolin Day! How could we have missed this? [21:39] JamesTait: :) [21:39] JamesTait: http://thebrainscoop.tumblr.com/post/76766600941/happy-world-pangolin-day-this-is-the-endangered [21:54] Good morning peeps :) [21:57] bigcalm: you're jet-lagged. [22:01] MartijnVdS: or I don't know any other greeting ;P [22:01] "g'day mates" === emma_ is now known as emma [23:02] is anyone else on virgin media cable, running their cable modem in 'modem mode' and understand wth VM do to their dhcp? [23:04] eh? [23:04] i have a vm superhub in modem only mode [23:04] and a ddwrt box in front of it which sees the WAN IP [23:04] popey: What have you got it connected to? [23:05] Netgear WNDR3700 [23:05] popey: I have it connected to an Ubuntu-server box running Shorewall and the kernel is rejecting the modems dhcp packets as martians [23:06] hm, odd [23:07] ooh, just telnetted into my router [23:07] not done that in a long while, like over 2 years [23:07] penguin42: did you register the mac? [23:07] do you still have to do that? [23:07] probably [23:07] popey: It's only at startup, once it's got a connection (i.e. I manually configure the network interface onto 192.168.100.x to match the modems diag ip and then login - it hten gets it ok) [23:07] why would they change it? [23:08] ali12341: But it's in modem mode - you can't register anything [23:08] sure you can [23:08] ali12341: And in this case it's the Linux box that's rejecting the DHCP from the modem not the other way around [23:08] how can you tell? [23:09] ali12341: How - everything is greyed out in modem mode except a button to take it back to router mode and a status button [23:09] yes [23:09] ali12341: 1) It doesn't actually get an IP 2) IPv4: martian source 255.255.255.255 from 10.34.180.1, on dev brinternet [23:09] in modem mode DHCP does not come from the modem [23:09] it comes from virgin's network [23:10] you have to register the mac of your router with virgin or else you won't get a valid DHCP response [23:10] but given that VMs DHCP server is serving from 10.34.180.1 an IP address on 82.27.172.x, giving a gateway IP of 86.7.101.1 and then embedded a rfc1048 extension of a default gatway of 82.27.172.1 I'm not surprised it's upset [23:10] ali12341: Register it where? [23:10] ali12341: The only registration I've seen is on the router in router mode [23:11] no, on vm website [23:11] * penguin42 has never done that [23:11] although I don't recall doing that when I switched to modem mode [23:11] (brb) [23:11] you either use the special installed CD that does it all for you (windows only of course) or you go to a special URL a bit like a captive portal [23:12] this information is several years out of date [23:14] apparently virgin got rid of all that stuff [23:19] ah ok, yeh didn't need to do any of that