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Kilosmorning all06:31
Kilossorry. testing if sound works in xchat06:36
Kiloshi superfly psydroid 06:36
theblazehenhey Kilos 06:49
Kiloshi theblazehen 06:49
soundsearcherMaaz_, morning07:20
Maaz_Hello soundsearcher07:20
soundsearcherhi Golynx you still winning with xubuntu07:26
Golynxhi soundsearcher. Yeah i am settled now with xubuntu, its better than unity and more productive :)07:28
soundsearcherhaha07:28
GolynxWhen i get a more powerfull pc, i will do ubuntu unity 14.04 07:30
soundsearcherim also hoping to try that07:30
=== soundsearcher is now known as Kilos
Golynxwb Kilos07:33
Golynxhad a feeling something not right these :p07:34
Kilospity you started so late with ubuntu Golynx 10.10 would have been ideal for you07:34
Kilosty07:34
Golynxwhy 10.1007:34
Kilosthat used gnome2 before unity hit the scene07:35
Golynxoh07:36
Kilosworked great on old machines07:36
Golynxnot sure if drivers would work there07:36
Golynxelse i would have to manually do everything07:37
Kilosit was better than xubuntu imo07:37
Golynxohk07:38
Golynxaslong as i'm able to use the OS without so many hardware issues i am fine with it07:39
Kilosno choice now with support dropping off you gotta go with the flow07:40
Golynxya true07:40
Kilosi got a new m/board here and xchat dont have sound hence soundsearcher07:41
Golynxoh ok07:42
Golynxlast  night you asked about the dogs hearing frequency, that is 30 - 50 khz07:43
Kilosah ty and the mossies one is close to that?07:47
Golynxi think its from 10khz to 25khz07:49
Kiloscool ill try them all07:50
Golynxhope you get it right :)07:51
Kiloshaha me too ty07:51
Golynxyw07:51
ThatGraemeGuyhello peeps07:58
theblazehenhey ThatGraemeGuy 08:00
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy wassup its saterday08:01
ThatGraemeGuyI'm on call and some stuff is acting up08:01
Golynxhi ThatGraemeGuy08:01
Golynxhi theblazehen08:01
Kiloseish08:01
theblazehenhi Golynx 08:02
ThatGraemeGuyyeah08:02
Kiloswbb going to konversation08:05
inetprogood mornings09:32
inetproKilos: so have you built your mozzi killer yet?09:32
Kiloshi inetpro 09:32
Kilosits all software inetpro , just gotta find the right frequency for them09:33
Kilosbut first 2 find some mozzi's\09:33
Kiloshaha09:33
inetprohow far can a frequency travel?09:33
Kilosdepends i suppose on how high you turn your volume control09:34
Kilosand its very low so dont need line of site like wifi09:34
inetprohow do you measure the volume if you can't hear it?09:35
Kilosyou use a diffirent frequency in the audio range first09:36
Kilosdifferent09:36
Kilosi just listen to bloep here on konversation09:37
Kilosotherwise you screw volume up and it bloeps you off the chair09:37
inetproI'm just thinking about the sound of the mozzi, surely it doesn't travel very far09:39
Kilosyou mean from the generator or from a mozzi itself?09:39
inetprofrom the mozzi itself09:40
Kilosoh normally only in one room 09:40
Kilosyou never heard them buzzing around when you in bed09:40
inetproonly right by my ear09:41
Kiloshaha09:41
Kilosbefore you klap yourself09:41
inetproexactly09:42
Kilosrofl09:42
Kilosif one can pinpoint the correct frequency it should keep them out of the whole house09:46
inetprothis whole issue of loudness vs frequency confuses me09:46
Kilosits like a radio09:47
Kilosloudness is controlled by the volume09:47
Kilosfrequency is controlled by the genny09:47
Kilosget it and scroll up and listen to the frequency change09:48
inetproso the frequency does not fade away with distance?09:48
Kilosruns with a java command09:48
Kilosnope it just goes out of your own hearing range09:48
Kiloshttp://www.lsu.edu/deafness/HearingRange.html09:49
Kiloslike bats use a sonar kinda frequency to tell them if there is something in front of them but we cant hear it09:50
inetprogoes right over my head09:52
Kilosget the gen and listen09:52
inetprowhat gen?09:52
Kilos google JSigGen09:53
Kilosai09:53
Kiloshttp://arachnoid.com/JSigGen/09:53
inetproai!09:54
Kiloswhat now?09:54
inetproneed aplugin to run that09:54
Kilosacroread09:54
inetprojre yuck!09:55
Kilosin the repos09:55
Kilosjust some java stuff man09:55
Kilosthe earlier versions are python code09:55
Kilosread the info and you can tick on earlier versions09:56
Kilosits like humming. start low tone then go up and up till you are squeeling09:58
Kilosthose are all different frequencies09:58
* inetpro installed icedtea6-plugin10:00
inetproworking now10:01
inetpronow what I do?10:01
Kilosok its default is 400hz i think10:01
Kilosyou hear it?10:01
Kilosput your pointer in that block and scroll10:02
inetprowhat block?10:02
Kiloswith 400 in10:02
Kilostiny block10:02
Kilosmake the thing full screen till you know whats up10:03
Kilosare you winning10:07
Kilosinetpro ?10:07
inetproyou mean scroll the frequency?10:07
Kilosyeah scroll mouse wheel and frequency chaanges10:09
Kilosand you should hear the tone going up10:10
inetprosignal frequency10:10
inetprowhat is Modul?10:10
Kilosya10:10
Kilosmodulate10:10
Kilosadd some modulation10:10
Kiloscan you hear anything man?10:11
inetproyep10:11
Kilosyay10:11
inetproworks perfactly10:11
Kilosya its a well written app methinks10:11
inetproso can I generate white noise with this thing?10:15
Kilosya at the bottom i think10:15
inetproto kill the office airconditioner noise10:15
Kiloslol10:15
Kilosit can generate all kinds of funny waveforms10:16
inetproyou are laughing, that noise is killing me slowly man10:16
Kilosaircon noise killing you?10:16
* inetpro loves the quietness when the aircon is switched off10:17
Kiloscomplain and they can get a better quality one10:17
inetprobut unfortunately gets hot too quickly so rather keep it on10:17
inetproI actually meassured it some time ago but forget the db levels10:18
Kiloscomplain and tell them you need a phsyc evaluation so they can see the damage its doing to you10:18
Kiloshave you got up to the squeeling frequency yet?10:19
inetproit probably not that bad but the levels were quite high10:19
inetprodon't want to break my speaker10:19
inetpros/break/kill/10:20
Kiloskeep going up you will get to a place where you feel the sound more than hear it10:20
Kilosno man ive run all the way and speakers fine10:20
Kilosits only waves going through the speaker at different speeds10:20
inetproeish!10:21
inetproit hurts man10:22
Kiloslol10:22
Kilosgo past there10:22
Kilosnow to find the right one that hurts mosquitoes10:23
Kilosinetpro go look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMS44ptNP3g and tell me what they say10:25
inetprono ways10:25
Kilosthere is also a droid thing looks like10:26
Kiloshttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.picobrothers.am&hl=en10:26
inetprono more bw available10:26
Kilosai!10:26
inetpromy kids are killing me this month10:27
Kilosai!10:27
Kilossame as that sound hurt you, theoretically there must be sounds that can hurt any living thing10:27
* inetpro needs a proxy at home to set bw limits10:28
Kiloshahaha10:29
inetproit's easy to manage when you're alone10:30
Kilosyeah10:31
Kiloshow do i get konversation to keep colours in old scroll backs10:32
Kilosthats the main thing xchat does better10:32
KilosMost devices use a range of frequency between 16 and 20 KHz in order to disturb insects; the efficacy though depends on the type of sound (ultrasonic, etc) used which can be achieved with special equipment, usually professional ones.10:35
charlgood morning10:39
charlMaaz_: coffee on10:39
* Maaz_ puts the kettle on10:39
Kilosso inetpro catch some mozzies inna bottle and type in 16000 there by signal and scroll up till they fall over10:40
Kiloshi charl 10:40
KilosMaaz_ coffee please10:40
Maaz_Kilos: Sure10:40
inetproai! :)10:40
Kiloslol10:40
inetpropoor mozzies10:40
charlhi Kilos 10:40
charlhi inetpro 10:40
inetprohi charl10:40
Kilosthey are serious disease carriers10:41
Kilosive had malaria twice10:41
* inetpro will ask the kids to catch some10:41
Kilosthats the way10:41
Maaz_Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!10:43
charlMaaz_: thanks10:43
Maaz_charl: Sure10:43
inetproKilos:  What is the proper frequency to repell mosquito? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080615201146AAKRUF010:44
inetproseems like a lost cause10:44
inetproHigh Frequency Sounds do NOT repel mosquitoes10:46
inetproKilos: see also http://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/2056/are-mosquitoes-repelled-by-high-frequency-sound10:46
Kilosthere are lots of pros and cons for the arguement but logic says that one frequency will hurt them same as that sound hurt you10:50
Kilosand if something hurts you you stay away right?10:51
inetprobut maybe they just don't hear it above a certain Hz just like us 10:53
Kilosif you get the right one it will rattle their cages10:54
Kilosi had a design link somewhere10:54
Kiloshttp://psrcentre.org/images/extraimages/512653.pdf10:55
Kiloshaha it also want java stuff10:55
Private_UserGood day all12:16
charlhi Private_User 12:16
charlphew in #ubuntu you can't even say anything or you get jumped on12:17
charland then they call it a "friendly" channel12:17
Private_Userdoes anybody else here use Thunderbird as their email client? I would like to know what the average memory usage should be?12:17
Private_Userhi charl12:18
charlhahahaha12:18
Private_Userwhat did you say there charl? I have seen that as well12:19
charli didn't, somebody just said something about "wtf is in a log" and then got jumped on12:20
charlthe next guy asked something about what the best of something is and got jumped on12:21
Private_Useryeah and sometimes you would sometimes be speaking about Ubuntu and they would tell you you going off topic and I also found that some of the people helping there are very arrogant i.e. one would ask a question and they may receive a reponse like if you do not know a simple thing of whatever do you think you should be the one setting up or even using ubuntu server...12:22
Private_UserI once had a query about ubuntu there and I got told I was going off topic but I know it was not a support query but stiff it was my first time there on the channel12:24
Private_User*still12:24
Private_Userlol12:24
Private_UserI wonder how that happened *stiff instead of *still12:24
charli don't need to know :P12:26
charllol12:26
charlbut yeah it's just general rudeness in that channel12:26
charlpeople's responses and also those automated bot responses come across as very rude12:26
charlin response to people asking totally legitimate and normal questions12:27
charland to jump on people for saying "wtf" these days is just childish12:27
charli'm not saying you shouldn't keep your language in check but seriously, this is irc12:27
theblaze_telnetI'm connected with telnet!13:08
theblazehentheblaze_telnet, ok13:09
smilehi :p13:24
charlhi smile 13:35
charltheblazehen: you manually connected with telnet to irc? by manually using the irc protocol?13:35
theblazehencharl, yep13:35
charlsmile: how's the weather in belgium, here's its windy13:36
smilecharl: windy, yesterday it was rainy too :)13:36
charlyes same here13:36
charli live on the third floor and i hear the wind good13:37
charlsmile: i see the videos of fosdem have now been posted, looking forward to watching some of them13:38
psydroidhi smile 13:40
psydroidhi charl 13:40
psydroidhi theblazehen 13:40
psydroidhi Private_User 13:40
smilecharl: oh yes, yesterday was storm :D13:40
theblazehenhey psydroid 13:40
smilehi psydroid 13:40
smilecharl: great :)13:40
theblaze_telnettelnet sucks..13:40
charlhi psydroid 13:41
charlsmile: i am having a problem though, i can not hear anything13:41
charlsmile: it seems like the audio codec or something doesn't want to play in vlc13:41
charlsmile: or in firefox for that matter13:41
charlfor example, in this video http://ftp.belnet.be/FOSDEM/2014/K1105/Saturday/Postfix_open_source_mail_server_lessons_learned_and_recent_developments.webm13:41
psydroidI just read what was said above about #ubuntu, I don't think it's good for people to deal with (mostly) novices like that13:42
charli just asked in #fosdem, i hope they have some answers13:42
charlpsydroid: it's not just about that, it's just general rudeness13:42
charlpsydroid: the people in that channel are arrogant and useless with helping people13:42
Kiloswhat did i miss?13:42
psydroidcharl, I've come across that too on IRC and I don't know why they think they can get away with that kind of behaviour13:42
psydroidhi Kilos 13:43
Kiloshi psydroid 13:43
Kilosstupid modem13:43
charlpsydroid: you would expect it on some networks like efnet and ircnet and more "geeky" communities13:43
psydroidcharl, I know Linux inside out (even kernel code) and have worked with many distributions, but I still try to help people whenever I can13:43
charlpsydroid: but for an official help channel like #ubuntu on freenode it's completely uncalled for, indeed13:43
charlpsydroid: yes same here, been using linux for like 15 years and i still enjoy helping people13:44
smilecharl: can't hear it either in Firefox :p13:44
charlsmile: yeah i think they screwed something up13:44
charlone of the people just responded and said the videos aren't fully ready yet13:45
smilecharl: I see :p13:46
smilebecause on Windows, the video's dont work either (just tested)13:46
charllol13:46
psydroidhaha13:48
psydroidbut wasn't Fosdem like two weeks ago?13:48
charlyes13:48
charlmaybe i am too quick :)13:48
psydroidyeah, you'd better wait for another year until Fosdem 2015 :D13:49
charlyes lol13:49
psydroidbtw, I am going to be attending more and more of these conferences in the near future13:49
charlyes i didn't know about fosdem until it was too late13:49
charlnext year we want to go with a group from work13:49
psydroidone of the nice things of being here in Poland is that there are also a lot of developer conferences in this region13:49
psydroidthings about*13:50
psydroidoh, if I am around at that time it would be great if I could go too13:50
charlthis was the other one: http://cfgmgmtcamp.eu/13:50
charlbut there are a lot of these events around, i don't bother to go to most of them though13:51
psydroidI would only go to the most important ones, where you can actually learn something about interesting projects13:51
charlif there are any good non-polish-language conferences please tell me13:53
charli've never been to poland but i would like to try it once13:53
psydroidI think these conferences are generally in English, but I'm not sure13:53
charlit's just quite a distance from here because i have to go through whole of germany to get to poland :P13:53
psydroidhahaha13:54
psydroidyou can fly from Eindhoven to all big cities13:54
psydroidhttp://www.wizzair.com13:54
psydroidexcept for PoznaƄ, that is ...13:55
charlhmmmm13:56
charlfor me i would do better by going to dortmund first13:57
charland then flying from dortmund13:57
psydroidoh, that's also a good choice indeed13:58
charlooh this is cheap13:58
charlvery good, thanks for the tip13:59
psydroidyou're welcome13:59
theblazehensudo apt-get install sl -y && sl14:30
theblazehenyou're welcome14:30
charlgood one theblazehen 14:34
not_found:'( I can't even find one site with live rugby scores that isn't being blocked from work15:41
charlnot_found: ssh funnel15:41
charl*tunnel15:41
charlssh -D opens a local socks proxy15:41
* not_found hasn't set up SSH on his home PC again...15:41
Kiloshi not_found 15:42
charlyou need a vps or so-called "cloud server"15:42
not_foundbesides using XP without admin makes most things difficult to achieve15:42
not_foundhiya uncle Kilos and charl 15:42
charlno problem with putty15:42
charlit works without any admin access15:42
charland configure firefox under networking, doesn't need any admin access either15:43
charli did this like 10 years ago to escape firewalls and corporate monitoring15:43
charlon a network that i didn't have any admin access to either15:43
charlback then we didn't have cheap vps'es but i had a box running under my desk at where i was working part time15:44
charlon a relatively open network, i should add15:44
not_foundI have used putty here... was even running x applications from home right here... but my upload from home was to small to make it work properly :p15:49
charlbah15:50
not_foundI haven't tried routing my browsers through a home connection 15:50
charlthat's really really easy15:50
not_foundwell as easy as it may be it won't solve my issue for tonight :/15:50
charla friend of mine was in china and he was doing the same to watch youtube15:50
Kilosinetpro are these good or poison15:54
Kiloshttp://imageshack.com/a/img600/9296/baf6.jpg15:54
Kiloshttp://imageshack.com/a/img827/8270/jyg3.jpg15:55
Kiloshttp://imageshack.com/a/img809/5769/ed4t.jpg15:55
charlman Kilos are you busy with the shrooms again15:56
Kilosyeah i love them, but dunno if these are safe15:56
charlyou're like super mario, you just chasing shrooms15:56
Kiloslol15:57
Kilosrahter die by bullet than by mushroom poisoning15:57
Kilosgooooooosiieeee15:58
smilecool, systemd is becoming standard in Ubuntu :)15:58
smilehttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/131615:58
charlKilos: if you're not careful you're going to end up like this http://i.imgur.com/kjmPT2F.jpg15:58
Kiloshahaha15:58
theblazehensmile, yeah :) Finally a bit more bearable to work with :p15:59
Kiloswhat is wrong with upstart?15:59
smiletheblazehen: yeah, I was hoping for that a long time16:00
smile:)16:00
smileKilos: it's slower16:00
smileand Ubuntu-only16:00
smile;)16:00
Kilosoh is that all16:00
Kilosbut it is very stable16:00
theblazehenI actually don't like systemd that much16:01
smiletheblazehen: it's fast in my experience ;)16:01
theblazehenharder to have say a BSD debian, or GNU/HURD16:01
smilethat's all that matters :p16:01
theblazehensmile, yeah, good IF you only want to use it with linux kernel16:01
smiletheblazehen: they will likely use SysVinit for some more years :p16:01
theblazehensmile, who? BSD?16:02
theblazehenI mean if I want to use a userspace linux system with a BSD kernel or something16:02
not_foundupstart is also used in RHEL 6...16:03
smileyou can still use SysV init for the years to come :p16:04
theblazehenOOh! plan9 userspace with linux kernel, good idea?16:04
smilenot_found: sure about that? :p16:04
not_foundand it fulfilled an important role16:04
smilehttps://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/upstart <- full story here, critique on systemd mostly :p16:04
theblazehenhttp://imgur.com/Q3cUg29 CSS... fuck CSS16:05
Kiloseish you too young to swear like that16:06
smileand here, why systemd is better: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd16:06
charlwhahaahhaa16:06
charlyeah and isn't that too true16:06
not_foundbetter is such a subjective concept...16:08
smile"Systemd is incredibly fast (1 second to boot). It was not designed with speed in mind, but doing things correctly avoids all the delays currently incurred by the boot process. " :p16:09
smilecharl: it is :p16:09
theblazehensmile, 20 seconds to shell on arch linux on my netbook with a HDD16:16
theblazehen1 minute to thin client connection manager, arch linux, booting from (slow) USB flash drive16:16
smiletheblazehen: yes, but that's not only systemd :)16:31
smilethat's ureadahead too16:32
smileand many more ;)16:32
smilehttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ureadahead16:35
theblazehenI'm back16:47
theblazehensomeone said my nick. What was the message?16:47
Kilos<smile> theblazehen: yes, but that's not only systemd :)16:47
theblazehenk, ty Kilos 16:48
Kilosk16:48
Kilosnot_found me watching sharks/bulls17:07
Kilosdont zzzzz watch17:08
not_foundbulls going to get slaughtered I fear...17:08
* not_found can't even get the score online anymore :'(17:08
Kilosyay i like that idea17:08
Kilosaw17:08
not_foundso any updates would be appreciacted17:09
Kilosnp17:09
not_foundthanks uncle Kilos 17:09
Kilosanytime17:09
not_foundand may the sharks win (won't say best team cause that isn't going to happen tonight)17:09
Kilosyou wanna go pm or here17:09
Kilosactually go social17:10
Kilos##ubuntu-za-social17:10
Kilos-go sharks17:32
not_foundyes, go away sharks17:34
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
Kilosinetpro waar is jy man?18:09
inetprouh18:09
Kilosai!18:09
inetproeish Kilos, I wouldn't try those mushrooms... they don't look like the healthy type that I eat 18:25
inetprounless you are planning to have a quick trip to the hospital 18:25
Kilosnope try inetpro 18:25
Kiloswill sigh and dump them18:25
* not_found won't even eat mushrooms from the shops :/18:25
Kilosoo i like mushrooms18:26
Kilosfry in butter then add milk and boils 2 mins18:26
Kilosyum yum on bread18:26
Kilosmaybe arab mushrooms are not lekker18:26
Kiloscamel dung not good fertilizer18:27
not_foundI don't care what dunk it comes up in I don't want to eat it18:29
Kiloslol18:29
Kilosyou dunno what you missing18:29
Kiloslekker like mussels and oysters18:29
not_foundeek... more things on my don't eat list18:30
Kilosai!18:30
* not_found thinks uncle Kilos should worry less about food and more about the score >.>18:30
Kiloswhat planet you come from18:30
not_foundone where we eat steak18:30
Kiloslol18:30
not_foundmy fave vegetable is chicken 18:30
Kilosand crayfish?18:31
Kilosbetter than any steak18:31
not_foundif you find crayfish grazing on a grass field then sure... if not then I doubt it18:31
Kiloshaha shame man you missing something18:31
not_foundI don't mind ;)18:31
inetproKilos: what's the score?18:32
Kilosbulls are all steak eaters thats why the sharks are leading18:32
Kilos26/918:32
inetprocool18:32
not_foundyou are aware all the best fish gets transported in land and the best steak to the coast :p18:33
Kilosvan der merwes are funny peeps you know18:33
not_foundseems the game has become a bit static...18:33
Kiloshere one okey name is mc-gyver dean greyling18:33
Kiloshahaha18:33
* not_found resigns himself to the loss as he expected... I will be back later all... have a great evening and don't eat anything growing on your lawns overnight... ;)18:34
Kiloscheers not_found 18:34
Kilosgo well18:34
not_found:)18:34
Kiloshehe18:34
Kilosai! stupid modem18:43
charlKilos: i just saw whatsapp support in miranda mg (windows)18:45
charl*ng18:46
Kilosaw i dont do windows18:46
charlKilos: http://wiki.miranda-ng.org/index.php?title=Plugin:WhatsApp/en18:46
charlit says "This plugin is in development and is not suitable for daily use yet. It could cause crashes or data loss."18:46
Kilosah18:46
charlno me neither18:46
charlit's a gpl licensed application18:46
charli don't know why it's windows only18:46
Kilosthat plugin for pidgin will work. i just need to register whatsapp with a fone sometime18:47
Kilosit actually starts then fails on password 18:47
charlyup18:47
charlif you can register your account first there's a good chance it will work18:48
charlbut i don't know about the above, it sounds unstable18:48
Kilosill find someone with a mod fone to register my sim some time18:48
charllol18:49
charli don't even have a mobile phone at all18:49
Kilosi have one for sms and read gutenburg.org books18:49
Kilosbut too old for whatsapp18:49
Kiloslekker to lie in bed and read on fone18:50
Kilosnot heavy or awkward like a book18:50
charlyeah18:50
Kilosinetpro 26/1618:51
inetproeish!18:51
Kilosthey coming closer18:51
Kilosthey actually playing the better game18:51
Kilosonly our defence keeps us going18:51
Symmetriahrm18:52
Symmetriagf took me with her to her friends dowry negotiation/engagement function thingy this afternoon18:52
Symmetriathat was an interesting insight into kenyan culture18:52
charllol18:55
charlSymmetria: do they have lebola?18:55
Kilosoo yay lambie scores 3 mins into overtime18:59
Kilos31/1619:00
inetpronice!19:00
Kilosgo banana boys19:01
charlwhat19:02
charlbanana boys?19:02
Kilosnatal19:02
charllol19:02
Symmetriacharl same concept19:06
Symmetriadifferent name19:06
Symmetriaand complex negotiation ceremony19:06
charlinteresting19:09
inetprosmile: thanks for those links19:35
Private_Userevening people19:39
Kiloshi Private_User 19:40
smileinetpro: yw! :D19:40
Private_Userhi Kilos19:40
charlhi Private_User 19:47
Private_Userhi charl19:47
Private_Userhi psydroid, sorry saw you greeted earlier but I was AFK :)19:47
charlhahahhaahha http://www.elmarlecher.de/files/hurd.jpg19:49
charlhurd is used all around the world indeed19:50
charlby like 10 people19:51
theblazehenWhen you have :w in your text dicuments..19:52
theblazehenAND you're in vim19:53
charl??19:53
charlhow is that a problem ?19:53
theblazehenI forgot to press esc...19:55
charllol19:55
charloh now i get it19:56
Private_UserI don't, but then again I could just be very ignorant or stupid19:58
charllol19:58
theblazehenPrivate_User, you use Esc, :w to save in the vim text editor19:59
charlwell you use esc to exit input mode19:59
charland then you're in command mode19:59
theblazehenI was stil in insert mode, as I forgot to press esc, so then I typed :w19:59
charland then you can execute commands like :w (write/save)19:59
charlinsert mode, sorry :)19:59
Private_UserLOL19:59
Private_Userok gotcha19:59
charla good vim user will spend most of their time in command mode20:00
theblazehencharl, Well mainly when you're editing text, then command. But if you're creating then insert..20:01
theblazehenright?20:01
Private_Usernow I am feeling a bit of hunger creeping on, time to go grab some grub. chat later people20:02
charlyes20:02
theblazehencharl, got any cool vim tricks?20:04
theblazehenmy favourite is gg=G20:05
theblazehen(Because I suck at indentation :( )20:05
charlhehe20:06
charli don't really know, i'm not a vim "power user"20:07
theblazehenah, kk20:07
charli have little hacks like trimming whitespace off the end of each line20:07
charlwith some regexp20:07
charland sorting a bunch of lines (mostly imports / variable declarations)20:07
charlbut i'm not big on plugins20:07
theblazehenI mainly use the basics. copy-paste, regex, insert, V-Line select, etc.20:07
theblazehennice20:07
charlsome stuff i use so irregularly that i just google them when i need them20:08
charlyes same here20:08
charlthis is a good resource: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki20:08
theblazehenI'm using the spf13 vim distribution. But mainly because it has good defaults20:08
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:08
theblazehenReally need to make my own vimrc..20:08
theblazehencya Kilos 20:08
theblazehencharl, yeah, I know of it20:08
charllooking at http://vim.spf13.com/ now20:09
charlhmmmm http://spf13.com/post/why-i-use-spf13-vim20:11
charlinteresting maybe i try it20:13
theblazehenawesome :)20:15
charlhmmmm drinking leffe bruin, awesome20:16
charlsmile: ^20:16
charl:)20:17
smilecharl: hehe :p20:24
smilezatlap :p20:24
smileI know you're all bored, so have a look at http://wiki.torios.org :p20:25
charllol20:27
charlzatlap zelfst.naamw. iemand die regelmatig te veel alcohol dringt   Voorbeeld: `De zatlap maakte de hele nacht herrie. ` Bron: Wikiwoordenboek - zatlap. 20:28
charli wouldn't say i make a habit of it :P20:28
smile:D20:29
charlif i have it right the south african translation would be "suiplap"20:29
charlbut it might have been too many years20:29
charloh yes, indeed, i speak some japanese and tori is bird20:30
smilesee ya :p20:32
smile:)20:32
smilegood night20:32
charlthis is a good initiative to watch20:33
charlnight smile20:33
charl:)20:33
smilethanks20:33
charli'm off too20:33
charlnight all20:33
theblazehennight guys20:44
Private_Userman, everybody here goes to bed very early... especially for a Saturday20:45
theblazehenPrivate_User, you in same timezone bro?20:46
theblazehenI could carry on, but I'm bored20:46
theblazehenDoing research on "drinking and driving" is kinda boring..20:46
Private_Userlol20:46
Private_Useryes same time zone dude, well I am in South Africa A.K.A  ZA20:47
superflyI rarely go to bed before 1120:55
superflymy only time on the PC is after 920:55
superflyit's called kids :-)20:56
Private_Userhehe20:56
Private_Userhi superfly 20:56
superflyhi Private_User20:56
Private_Usertheblazehen: if you bored and cannot sleep research ways to make additional cash online and how to make your money grow while sitting and doing nothing. That's my advice since I wish people told me that when I was younger like especially school time I would have not gotten bankrupt and become broke20:57
Private_Userand its not the spam making cash online hey20:57
Private_Userthe ones that get sent to you in an email where you pay to get the info20:57
Private_Userthere are also some freelancing ubuntu jobs out there where you work online via one of these freelancing sites for a lient and get paid20:58
theblazehenPrivate_User, like those GPT sites, and surveys?20:58
Private_User*client20:58
superflyapparently there's a lot of money in advertising in Android apps and games20:59
theblazehenI might do freelancing, but I don't like dev work that much. And once I get my GPU then I'll be making R2000 per month anyway20:59
superflytheblazehen: you mean you don't like working for clients21:00
theblazehensuperfly, IFAIK flappy bird creator made $50000 one day with ads21:00
superflytheblazehen: yep, and you don't want to know what others make, it's even more21:00
theblazehensuperfly, nah, I'd rather be say messing with a config file, getting LDAP to work or something, than developing something21:00
Private_Usertheblazehen: yeah those ones are like waste of time cause I managed to download from the net what one of those sites said that I should pay for and it was information that if you really look on the net you would get for free21:00
theblazehensuperfly, yeah, some make a shit ton21:01
superflytheblazehen: I'd get too bored. I prefer doing hard stuff like trying to make an electronic device use less power21:01
theblazehenMy one friend lost 30k USD with the recent BTC crash. All BTC mined, or traded21:02
superflynot every day you get to work on a low level like that21:02
theblazehensuperfly, ah nice21:02
superfly(turning pins on and off on an IC)21:02
theblazehenwell, cya all21:03

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