[06:31] morning all [06:36] sorry. testing if sound works in xchat [06:36] hi superfly psydroid [06:49] hey Kilos [06:49] hi theblazehen [07:20] Maaz_, morning [07:20] Hello soundsearcher [07:26] hi Golynx you still winning with xubuntu [07:28] hi soundsearcher. Yeah i am settled now with xubuntu, its better than unity and more productive :) [07:28] haha [07:30] When i get a more powerfull pc, i will do ubuntu unity 14.04 [07:30] im also hoping to try that === soundsearcher is now known as Kilos [07:33] wb Kilos [07:34] had a feeling something not right these :p [07:34] pity you started so late with ubuntu Golynx 10.10 would have been ideal for you [07:34] ty [07:34] why 10.10 [07:35] that used gnome2 before unity hit the scene [07:36] oh [07:36] worked great on old machines [07:36] not sure if drivers would work there [07:37] else i would have to manually do everything [07:37] it was better than xubuntu imo [07:38] ohk [07:39] aslong as i'm able to use the OS without so many hardware issues i am fine with it [07:40] no choice now with support dropping off you gotta go with the flow [07:40] ya true [07:41] i got a new m/board here and xchat dont have sound hence soundsearcher [07:42] oh ok [07:43] last night you asked about the dogs hearing frequency, that is 30 - 50 khz [07:47] ah ty and the mossies one is close to that? [07:49] i think its from 10khz to 25khz [07:50] cool ill try them all [07:51] hope you get it right :) [07:51] haha me too ty [07:51] yw [07:58] hello peeps [08:00] hey ThatGraemeGuy [08:01] hi ThatGraemeGuy wassup its saterday [08:01] I'm on call and some stuff is acting up [08:01] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:01] hi theblazehen [08:01] eish [08:02] hi Golynx [08:02] yeah [08:05] wbb going to konversation [09:32] good mornings [09:32] Kilos: so have you built your mozzi killer yet? [09:32] hi inetpro [09:33] its all software inetpro , just gotta find the right frequency for them [09:33] but first 2 find some mozzi's\ [09:33] haha [09:33] how far can a frequency travel? [09:34] depends i suppose on how high you turn your volume control [09:34] and its very low so dont need line of site like wifi [09:35] how do you measure the volume if you can't hear it? [09:36] you use a diffirent frequency in the audio range first [09:36] different [09:37] i just listen to bloep here on konversation [09:37] otherwise you screw volume up and it bloeps you off the chair [09:39] I'm just thinking about the sound of the mozzi, surely it doesn't travel very far [09:39] you mean from the generator or from a mozzi itself? [09:40] from the mozzi itself [09:40] oh normally only in one room [09:40] you never heard them buzzing around when you in bed [09:41] only right by my ear [09:41] haha [09:41] before you klap yourself [09:42] exactly [09:42] rofl [09:46] if one can pinpoint the correct frequency it should keep them out of the whole house [09:46] this whole issue of loudness vs frequency confuses me [09:47] its like a radio [09:47] loudness is controlled by the volume [09:47] frequency is controlled by the genny [09:48] get it and scroll up and listen to the frequency change [09:48] so the frequency does not fade away with distance? [09:48] runs with a java command [09:48] nope it just goes out of your own hearing range [09:49] http://www.lsu.edu/deafness/HearingRange.html [09:50] like bats use a sonar kinda frequency to tell them if there is something in front of them but we cant hear it [09:52] goes right over my head [09:52] get the gen and listen [09:52] what gen? [09:53] google JSigGen [09:53] ai [09:53] http://arachnoid.com/JSigGen/ [09:54] ai! [09:54] what now? [09:54] need aplugin to run that [09:54] acroread [09:55] jre yuck! [09:55] in the repos [09:55] just some java stuff man [09:55] the earlier versions are python code [09:56] read the info and you can tick on earlier versions [09:58] its like humming. start low tone then go up and up till you are squeeling [09:58] those are all different frequencies [10:00] * inetpro installed icedtea6-plugin [10:01] working now [10:01] now what I do? [10:01] ok its default is 400hz i think [10:01] you hear it? [10:02] put your pointer in that block and scroll [10:02] what block? [10:02] with 400 in [10:02] tiny block [10:03] make the thing full screen till you know whats up [10:07] are you winning [10:07] inetpro ? [10:07] you mean scroll the frequency? [10:09] yeah scroll mouse wheel and frequency chaanges [10:10] and you should hear the tone going up [10:10] signal frequency [10:10] what is Modul? [10:10] ya [10:10] modulate [10:10] add some modulation [10:11] can you hear anything man? [10:11] yep [10:11] yay [10:11] works perfactly [10:11] ya its a well written app methinks [10:15] so can I generate white noise with this thing? [10:15] ya at the bottom i think [10:15] to kill the office airconditioner noise [10:15] lol [10:16] it can generate all kinds of funny waveforms [10:16] you are laughing, that noise is killing me slowly man [10:16] aircon noise killing you? [10:17] * inetpro loves the quietness when the aircon is switched off [10:17] complain and they can get a better quality one [10:17] but unfortunately gets hot too quickly so rather keep it on [10:18] I actually meassured it some time ago but forget the db levels [10:18] complain and tell them you need a phsyc evaluation so they can see the damage its doing to you [10:19] have you got up to the squeeling frequency yet? [10:19] it probably not that bad but the levels were quite high [10:19] don't want to break my speaker [10:20] s/break/kill/ [10:20] keep going up you will get to a place where you feel the sound more than hear it [10:20] no man ive run all the way and speakers fine [10:20] its only waves going through the speaker at different speeds [10:21] eish! [10:22] it hurts man [10:22] lol [10:22] go past there [10:23] now to find the right one that hurts mosquitoes [10:25] inetpro go look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMS44ptNP3g and tell me what they say [10:25] no ways [10:26] there is also a droid thing looks like [10:26] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.picobrothers.am&hl=en [10:26] no more bw available [10:26] ai! [10:27] my kids are killing me this month [10:27] ai! [10:27] same as that sound hurt you, theoretically there must be sounds that can hurt any living thing [10:28] * inetpro needs a proxy at home to set bw limits [10:29] hahaha [10:30] it's easy to manage when you're alone [10:31] yeah [10:32] how do i get konversation to keep colours in old scroll backs [10:32] thats the main thing xchat does better [10:35] Most devices use a range of frequency between 16 and 20 KHz in order to disturb insects; the efficacy though depends on the type of sound (ultrasonic, etc) used which can be achieved with special equipment, usually professional ones. [10:39] good morning [10:39] Maaz_: coffee on [10:39] * Maaz_ puts the kettle on [10:40] so inetpro catch some mozzies inna bottle and type in 16000 there by signal and scroll up till they fall over [10:40] hi charl [10:40] Maaz_ coffee please [10:40] Kilos: Sure [10:40] ai! :) [10:40] lol [10:40] poor mozzies [10:40] hi Kilos [10:40] hi inetpro [10:40] hi charl [10:41] they are serious disease carriers [10:41] ive had malaria twice [10:41] * inetpro will ask the kids to catch some [10:41] thats the way [10:43] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [10:43] Maaz_: thanks [10:43] charl: Sure [10:44] Kilos: What is the proper frequency to repell mosquito? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080615201146AAKRUF0 [10:44] seems like a lost cause [10:46] High Frequency Sounds do NOT repel mosquitoes [10:46] Kilos: see also http://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/2056/are-mosquitoes-repelled-by-high-frequency-sound [10:50] there are lots of pros and cons for the arguement but logic says that one frequency will hurt them same as that sound hurt you [10:51] and if something hurts you you stay away right? [10:53] but maybe they just don't hear it above a certain Hz just like us [10:54] if you get the right one it will rattle their cages [10:54] i had a design link somewhere [10:55] http://psrcentre.org/images/extraimages/512653.pdf [10:55] haha it also want java stuff [12:16] Good day all [12:16] hi Private_User [12:17] phew in #ubuntu you can't even say anything or you get jumped on [12:17] and then they call it a "friendly" channel [12:17] does anybody else here use Thunderbird as their email client? I would like to know what the average memory usage should be? [12:18] hi charl [12:18] hahahaha [12:19] what did you say there charl? I have seen that as well [12:20] i didn't, somebody just said something about "wtf is in a log" and then got jumped on [12:21] the next guy asked something about what the best of something is and got jumped on [12:22] yeah and sometimes you would sometimes be speaking about Ubuntu and they would tell you you going off topic and I also found that some of the people helping there are very arrogant i.e. one would ask a question and they may receive a reponse like if you do not know a simple thing of whatever do you think you should be the one setting up or even using ubuntu server... [12:24] I once had a query about ubuntu there and I got told I was going off topic but I know it was not a support query but stiff it was my first time there on the channel [12:24] *still [12:24] lol [12:24] I wonder how that happened *stiff instead of *still [12:26] i don't need to know :P [12:26] lol [12:26] but yeah it's just general rudeness in that channel [12:26] people's responses and also those automated bot responses come across as very rude [12:27] in response to people asking totally legitimate and normal questions [12:27] and to jump on people for saying "wtf" these days is just childish [12:27] i'm not saying you shouldn't keep your language in check but seriously, this is irc [13:08] I'm connected with telnet! [13:09] theblaze_telnet, ok [13:24] hi :p [13:35] hi smile [13:35] theblazehen: you manually connected with telnet to irc? by manually using the irc protocol? [13:35] charl, yep [13:36] smile: how's the weather in belgium, here's its windy [13:36] charl: windy, yesterday it was rainy too :) [13:36] yes same here [13:37] i live on the third floor and i hear the wind good [13:38] smile: i see the videos of fosdem have now been posted, looking forward to watching some of them [13:40] hi smile [13:40] hi charl [13:40] hi theblazehen [13:40] hi Private_User [13:40] charl: oh yes, yesterday was storm :D [13:40] hey psydroid [13:40] hi psydroid [13:40] charl: great :) [13:40] telnet sucks.. [13:41] hi psydroid [13:41] smile: i am having a problem though, i can not hear anything [13:41] smile: it seems like the audio codec or something doesn't want to play in vlc [13:41] smile: or in firefox for that matter [13:41] for example, in this video http://ftp.belnet.be/FOSDEM/2014/K1105/Saturday/Postfix_open_source_mail_server_lessons_learned_and_recent_developments.webm [13:42] I just read what was said above about #ubuntu, I don't think it's good for people to deal with (mostly) novices like that [13:42] i just asked in #fosdem, i hope they have some answers [13:42] psydroid: it's not just about that, it's just general rudeness [13:42] psydroid: the people in that channel are arrogant and useless with helping people [13:42] what did i miss? [13:42] charl, I've come across that too on IRC and I don't know why they think they can get away with that kind of behaviour [13:43] hi Kilos [13:43] hi psydroid [13:43] stupid modem [13:43] psydroid: you would expect it on some networks like efnet and ircnet and more "geeky" communities [13:43] charl, I know Linux inside out (even kernel code) and have worked with many distributions, but I still try to help people whenever I can [13:43] psydroid: but for an official help channel like #ubuntu on freenode it's completely uncalled for, indeed [13:44] psydroid: yes same here, been using linux for like 15 years and i still enjoy helping people [13:44] charl: can't hear it either in Firefox :p [13:44] smile: yeah i think they screwed something up [13:45] one of the people just responded and said the videos aren't fully ready yet [13:46] charl: I see :p [13:46] because on Windows, the video's dont work either (just tested) [13:46] lol [13:48] haha [13:48] but wasn't Fosdem like two weeks ago? [13:48] yes [13:48] maybe i am too quick :) [13:49] yeah, you'd better wait for another year until Fosdem 2015 :D [13:49] yes lol [13:49] btw, I am going to be attending more and more of these conferences in the near future [13:49] yes i didn't know about fosdem until it was too late [13:49] next year we want to go with a group from work [13:49] one of the nice things of being here in Poland is that there are also a lot of developer conferences in this region [13:50] things about* [13:50] oh, if I am around at that time it would be great if I could go too [13:50] this was the other one: http://cfgmgmtcamp.eu/ [13:51] but there are a lot of these events around, i don't bother to go to most of them though [13:51] I would only go to the most important ones, where you can actually learn something about interesting projects [13:53] if there are any good non-polish-language conferences please tell me [13:53] i've never been to poland but i would like to try it once [13:53] I think these conferences are generally in English, but I'm not sure [13:53] it's just quite a distance from here because i have to go through whole of germany to get to poland :P [13:54] hahaha [13:54] you can fly from Eindhoven to all big cities [13:54] http://www.wizzair.com [13:55] except for PoznaƄ, that is ... [13:56] hmmmm [13:57] for me i would do better by going to dortmund first [13:57] and then flying from dortmund [13:58] oh, that's also a good choice indeed [13:58] ooh this is cheap [13:59] very good, thanks for the tip [13:59] you're welcome [14:30] sudo apt-get install sl -y && sl [14:30] you're welcome [14:34] good one theblazehen [15:41] :'( I can't even find one site with live rugby scores that isn't being blocked from work [15:41] not_found: ssh funnel [15:41] *tunnel [15:41] ssh -D opens a local socks proxy [15:41] * not_found hasn't set up SSH on his home PC again... [15:42] hi not_found [15:42] you need a vps or so-called "cloud server" [15:42] besides using XP without admin makes most things difficult to achieve [15:42] hiya uncle Kilos and charl [15:42] no problem with putty [15:42] it works without any admin access [15:43] and configure firefox under networking, doesn't need any admin access either [15:43] i did this like 10 years ago to escape firewalls and corporate monitoring [15:43] on a network that i didn't have any admin access to either [15:44] back then we didn't have cheap vps'es but i had a box running under my desk at where i was working part time [15:44] on a relatively open network, i should add [15:49] I have used putty here... was even running x applications from home right here... but my upload from home was to small to make it work properly :p [15:50] bah [15:50] I haven't tried routing my browsers through a home connection [15:50] that's really really easy [15:50] well as easy as it may be it won't solve my issue for tonight :/ [15:50] a friend of mine was in china and he was doing the same to watch youtube [15:54] inetpro are these good or poison [15:54] http://imageshack.com/a/img600/9296/baf6.jpg [15:55] http://imageshack.com/a/img827/8270/jyg3.jpg [15:55] http://imageshack.com/a/img809/5769/ed4t.jpg [15:56] man Kilos are you busy with the shrooms again [15:56] yeah i love them, but dunno if these are safe [15:56] you're like super mario, you just chasing shrooms [15:57] lol [15:57] rahter die by bullet than by mushroom poisoning [15:58] gooooooosiieeee [15:58] cool, systemd is becoming standard in Ubuntu :) [15:58] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 [15:58] Kilos: if you're not careful you're going to end up like this http://i.imgur.com/kjmPT2F.jpg [15:58] hahaha [15:59] smile, yeah :) Finally a bit more bearable to work with :p [15:59] what is wrong with upstart? [16:00] theblazehen: yeah, I was hoping for that a long time [16:00] :) [16:00] Kilos: it's slower [16:00] and Ubuntu-only [16:00] ;) [16:00] oh is that all [16:00] but it is very stable [16:01] I actually don't like systemd that much [16:01] theblazehen: it's fast in my experience ;) [16:01] harder to have say a BSD debian, or GNU/HURD [16:01] that's all that matters :p [16:01] smile, yeah, good IF you only want to use it with linux kernel [16:01] theblazehen: they will likely use SysVinit for some more years :p [16:02] smile, who? BSD? [16:02] I mean if I want to use a userspace linux system with a BSD kernel or something [16:03] upstart is also used in RHEL 6... [16:04] you can still use SysV init for the years to come :p [16:04] OOh! plan9 userspace with linux kernel, good idea? [16:04] not_found: sure about that? :p [16:04] and it fulfilled an important role [16:04] https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/upstart <- full story here, critique on systemd mostly :p [16:05] http://imgur.com/Q3cUg29 CSS... fuck CSS [16:06] eish you too young to swear like that [16:06] and here, why systemd is better: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd [16:06] whahaahhaa [16:06] yeah and isn't that too true [16:08] better is such a subjective concept... [16:09] "Systemd is incredibly fast (1 second to boot). It was not designed with speed in mind, but doing things correctly avoids all the delays currently incurred by the boot process. " :p [16:09] charl: it is :p [16:16] smile, 20 seconds to shell on arch linux on my netbook with a HDD [16:16] 1 minute to thin client connection manager, arch linux, booting from (slow) USB flash drive [16:31] theblazehen: yes, but that's not only systemd :) [16:32] that's ureadahead too [16:32] and many more ;) [16:35] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ureadahead [16:47] I'm back [16:47] someone said my nick. What was the message? [16:47] theblazehen: yes, but that's not only systemd :) [16:48] k, ty Kilos [16:48] k [17:07] not_found me watching sharks/bulls [17:08] dont zzzzz watch [17:08] bulls going to get slaughtered I fear... [17:08] * not_found can't even get the score online anymore :'( [17:08] yay i like that idea [17:08] aw [17:09] so any updates would be appreciacted [17:09] np [17:09] thanks uncle Kilos [17:09] anytime [17:09] and may the sharks win (won't say best team cause that isn't going to happen tonight) [17:09] you wanna go pm or here [17:10] actually go social [17:10] ##ubuntu-za-social [17:32] go sharks [17:34] yes, go away sharks === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [18:09] inetpro waar is jy man? [18:09] uh [18:09] ai! [18:25] eish Kilos, I wouldn't try those mushrooms... they don't look like the healthy type that I eat [18:25] unless you are planning to have a quick trip to the hospital [18:25] nope try inetpro [18:25] will sigh and dump them [18:25] * not_found won't even eat mushrooms from the shops :/ [18:26] oo i like mushrooms [18:26] fry in butter then add milk and boils 2 mins [18:26] yum yum on bread [18:26] maybe arab mushrooms are not lekker [18:27] camel dung not good fertilizer [18:29] I don't care what dunk it comes up in I don't want to eat it [18:29] lol [18:29] you dunno what you missing [18:29] lekker like mussels and oysters [18:30] eek... more things on my don't eat list [18:30] ai! [18:30] * not_found thinks uncle Kilos should worry less about food and more about the score >.> [18:30] what planet you come from [18:30] one where we eat steak [18:30] lol [18:30] my fave vegetable is chicken [18:31] and crayfish? [18:31] better than any steak [18:31] if you find crayfish grazing on a grass field then sure... if not then I doubt it [18:31] haha shame man you missing something [18:31] I don't mind ;) [18:32] Kilos: what's the score? [18:32] bulls are all steak eaters thats why the sharks are leading [18:32] 26/9 [18:32] cool [18:33] you are aware all the best fish gets transported in land and the best steak to the coast :p [18:33] van der merwes are funny peeps you know [18:33] seems the game has become a bit static... [18:33] here one okey name is mc-gyver dean greyling [18:33] hahaha [18:34] * not_found resigns himself to the loss as he expected... I will be back later all... have a great evening and don't eat anything growing on your lawns overnight... ;) [18:34] cheers not_found [18:34] go well [18:34] :) [18:34] hehe [18:43] ai! stupid modem [18:45] Kilos: i just saw whatsapp support in miranda mg (windows) [18:46] *ng [18:46] aw i dont do windows [18:46] Kilos: http://wiki.miranda-ng.org/index.php?title=Plugin:WhatsApp/en [18:46] it says "This plugin is in development and is not suitable for daily use yet. It could cause crashes or data loss." [18:46] ah [18:46] no me neither [18:46] it's a gpl licensed application [18:46] i don't know why it's windows only [18:47] that plugin for pidgin will work. i just need to register whatsapp with a fone sometime [18:47] it actually starts then fails on password [18:47] yup [18:48] if you can register your account first there's a good chance it will work [18:48] but i don't know about the above, it sounds unstable [18:48] ill find someone with a mod fone to register my sim some time [18:49] lol [18:49] i don't even have a mobile phone at all [18:49] i have one for sms and read gutenburg.org books [18:49] but too old for whatsapp [18:50] lekker to lie in bed and read on fone [18:50] not heavy or awkward like a book [18:50] yeah [18:51] inetpro 26/16 [18:51] eish! [18:51] they coming closer [18:51] they actually playing the better game [18:51] only our defence keeps us going [18:52] hrm [18:52] gf took me with her to her friends dowry negotiation/engagement function thingy this afternoon [18:52] that was an interesting insight into kenyan culture [18:55] lol [18:55] Symmetria: do they have lebola? [18:59] oo yay lambie scores 3 mins into overtime [19:00] 31/16 [19:00] nice! [19:01] go banana boys [19:02] what [19:02] banana boys? [19:02] natal [19:02] lol [19:06] charl same concept [19:06] different name [19:06] and complex negotiation ceremony [19:09] interesting [19:35] smile: thanks for those links [19:39] evening people [19:40] hi Private_User [19:40] inetpro: yw! :D [19:40] hi Kilos [19:47] hi Private_User [19:47] hi charl [19:47] hi psydroid, sorry saw you greeted earlier but I was AFK :) [19:49] hahahhaahha http://www.elmarlecher.de/files/hurd.jpg [19:50] hurd is used all around the world indeed [19:51] by like 10 people [19:52] When you have :w in your text dicuments.. [19:53] AND you're in vim [19:53] ?? [19:53] how is that a problem ? [19:55] I forgot to press esc... [19:55] lol [19:56] oh now i get it [19:58] I don't, but then again I could just be very ignorant or stupid [19:58] lol [19:59] Private_User, you use Esc, :w to save in the vim text editor [19:59] well you use esc to exit input mode [19:59] and then you're in command mode [19:59] I was stil in insert mode, as I forgot to press esc, so then I typed :w [19:59] and then you can execute commands like :w (write/save) [19:59] insert mode, sorry :) [19:59] LOL [19:59] ok gotcha [20:00] a good vim user will spend most of their time in command mode [20:01] charl, Well mainly when you're editing text, then command. But if you're creating then insert.. [20:01] right? [20:02] now I am feeling a bit of hunger creeping on, time to go grab some grub. chat later people [20:02] yes [20:04] charl, got any cool vim tricks? [20:05] my favourite is gg=G [20:05] (Because I suck at indentation :( ) [20:06] hehe [20:07] i don't really know, i'm not a vim "power user" [20:07] ah, kk [20:07] i have little hacks like trimming whitespace off the end of each line [20:07] with some regexp [20:07] and sorting a bunch of lines (mostly imports / variable declarations) [20:07] but i'm not big on plugins [20:07] I mainly use the basics. copy-paste, regex, insert, V-Line select, etc. [20:07] nice [20:08] some stuff i use so irregularly that i just google them when i need them [20:08] yes same here [20:08] this is a good resource: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki [20:08] I'm using the spf13 vim distribution. But mainly because it has good defaults [20:08] night all. sleep tight [20:08] Really need to make my own vimrc.. [20:08] cya Kilos [20:08] charl, yeah, I know of it [20:09] looking at http://vim.spf13.com/ now [20:11] hmmmm http://spf13.com/post/why-i-use-spf13-vim [20:13] interesting maybe i try it [20:15] awesome :) [20:16] hmmmm drinking leffe bruin, awesome [20:16] smile: ^ [20:17] :) [20:24] charl: hehe :p [20:24] zatlap :p [20:25] I know you're all bored, so have a look at http://wiki.torios.org :p [20:27] lol [20:28] zatlap zelfst.naamw. iemand die regelmatig te veel alcohol dringt Voorbeeld: `De zatlap maakte de hele nacht herrie. ` Bron: Wikiwoordenboek - zatlap. [20:28] i wouldn't say i make a habit of it :P [20:29] :D [20:29] if i have it right the south african translation would be "suiplap" [20:29] but it might have been too many years [20:30] oh yes, indeed, i speak some japanese and tori is bird [20:32] see ya :p [20:32] :) [20:32] good night [20:33] this is a good initiative to watch [20:33] night smile [20:33] :) [20:33] thanks [20:33] i'm off too [20:33] night all [20:44] night guys [20:45] man, everybody here goes to bed very early... especially for a Saturday [20:46] Private_User, you in same timezone bro? [20:46] I could carry on, but I'm bored [20:46] Doing research on "drinking and driving" is kinda boring.. [20:46] lol [20:47] yes same time zone dude, well I am in South Africa A.K.A ZA [20:55] I rarely go to bed before 11 [20:55] my only time on the PC is after 9 [20:56] it's called kids :-) [20:56] hehe [20:56] hi superfly [20:56] hi Private_User [20:57] theblazehen: if you bored and cannot sleep research ways to make additional cash online and how to make your money grow while sitting and doing nothing. That's my advice since I wish people told me that when I was younger like especially school time I would have not gotten bankrupt and become broke [20:57] and its not the spam making cash online hey [20:57] the ones that get sent to you in an email where you pay to get the info [20:58] there are also some freelancing ubuntu jobs out there where you work online via one of these freelancing sites for a lient and get paid [20:58] Private_User, like those GPT sites, and surveys? [20:58] *client [20:59] apparently there's a lot of money in advertising in Android apps and games [20:59] I might do freelancing, but I don't like dev work that much. And once I get my GPU then I'll be making R2000 per month anyway [21:00] theblazehen: you mean you don't like working for clients [21:00] superfly, IFAIK flappy bird creator made $50000 one day with ads [21:00] theblazehen: yep, and you don't want to know what others make, it's even more [21:00] superfly, nah, I'd rather be say messing with a config file, getting LDAP to work or something, than developing something [21:00] theblazehen: yeah those ones are like waste of time cause I managed to download from the net what one of those sites said that I should pay for and it was information that if you really look on the net you would get for free [21:01] superfly, yeah, some make a shit ton [21:01] theblazehen: I'd get too bored. I prefer doing hard stuff like trying to make an electronic device use less power [21:02] My one friend lost 30k USD with the recent BTC crash. All BTC mined, or traded [21:02] not every day you get to work on a low level like that [21:02] superfly, ah nice [21:02] (turning pins on and off on an IC) [21:03] well, cya all