[00:00] <MG_> Thanks hitsujiTMO. That was the right hint thanks a lot
[00:01] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> i don't seem to see prime95 in the ubuntu repos even though it clearly has a linux version
[00:02] <nathanel1itane> doing it manually via sudo su gdm -s /bin/bash works
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> is there an equivalent tool in the repos that you guys like?
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> I want to stress test a new build
[00:02] <daftykins> i've used cpuburn in the past
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: thanks, i'll give it a try
[00:02] <totesmuhgoats> is it as effective?
[00:02] <daftykins> you need to run one instance per core, also you need to match the edition
[00:03] <daftykins> so for example, modern intel = "burnP6"
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> edition?
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> oh i see
[00:03] <daftykins> it's all in the man page
[00:03] <usr13> nathanel1itane: So you are editing /etc/init/gdm.conf, right?
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> thanks my friend
[00:03] <pauljw> nomine, system settings; network
[00:03] <daftykins> so basically i'd have a terminal open per core, then another one with 'top' to watch it max load it :>
[00:03] <daftykins> hard to say if it's as good as prime95 though, not sure :)
[00:03] <DrChill> TJ-: It seems that the problem is within my script, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/KEpZyrjs
[00:03] <totesmuhgoats> does it also make heavy use of ram like prime95 does?
[00:04] <DrChill> TJ-: miner_running is present in /tmp
[00:04] <totesmuhgoats> because I have been able to find memory issues in the past with prime95 when even memtest didn't find them
[00:04] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: i tend to fall back on memtest for RAM in new builds
[00:04] <daftykins> hmm i don't think that's likely at all :)
[00:04] <daftykins> depends how many passes you let memtest go for
[00:05] <daftykins> anywho back shortly, changing room
[00:05] <nomine> pauljw: i've used pon for connecting to my provider. there's no information there. thanks
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO>  totesmuhgoats does running the following explain to you why it doesn't work in a subhell?:    sudo whoami && sudo echo `whoami`
[00:05] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: well what happened in the past was that I had memory that wasn't defective, it just didn't play well with a particular motherboard and I had all sorts of stability issues
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO>  totesmuhgoats does running the following explain to you why it doesn't work in a subshell?: sorry:     echo whoami && sudo echo `whoami`
[00:05] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, that's generally due to overheating caused by having both the cpu and ram stressed, and poor ventilation
[00:05] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: i've edited the lightdm.conf file, but the lxde desktop keeps loading up :/ how can i disable it? thats why i wanted to uninstall it. also, storage space is very limited, so if it's possible i'd like to get rid of it
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: try rm ~/.dmrc
[00:06] <Uncancelled> fuck you :) Use MacOS
[00:06] <totesmuhgoats> psusi: yea that is what I thought but it wasn't the case, the ram was fine, cpu was fine, just the combination of ram + motherboard didn't work. memtest didn't yield anything but after a while of doing the most intensive prime95 testing it would find that the numbers didn't match what was expected
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> switched that same ram out in a different system and put different sticks in that one
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> prime95 ran fine and both PCs were stable afterward
[00:07] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, right... after a while the heat built up enough to screw it up
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> no, not the heat
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> the same cpu with cooler was used with different memory sticks
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> and perfectly stable
[00:07] <totesmuhgoats> it was that particular stick and board not working well together
[00:08] <ryorky1> whenever I try to run a mysql outfile command, it keeps giving me a Can't create/write to file (Errorcode: 13 ) error msg
[00:08] <psusi> different memory sticks generate less heat, and are less susceptible to heat messing them up
[00:08] <totesmuhgoats> psusi: is that the case? i assumed maybe it was that the voltage was not exactly 1.5v as the manufacturer claimed
[00:08] <ryorky1> I can write to temp, but just not any other location
[00:09] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, it is possible that 1.5v wasn't quite enough for that ram once it got hot... and bumping it up a bit could have made it work
[00:10] <pauljw> nomine, how about sudo lshw ?
[00:10] <nomine> pauljw: it only outputs PCI (sysfs)
[00:11] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: didn't work, but i see there are other conf files in /etc/lightdm/
[00:12] <psusi> totesmuhgoats, there's basically a tradeoff between voltage, temperature, and refresh rate... the higher the temperature and lower the voltage, the faster the data decays.. so they may test it and say it's good at 1.5v, but in your system with that load it gets 2-3 degrees warmer and falls short
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: lightdm.conf overrides the others so shouldn't be an issue. can you again pastebin /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[00:15] <ssl_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934313/
[00:17] <totesmuhgoats> psusi: so do you think cpuburn would help me to find instability in such a case?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-session /usr/bin/startlxde seems to be doing it.  can you pastebin /usr/share/xsessions/LXDE.desktop      and the configs in: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/
[00:18] <ssl_> yes
[00:20] <ssl_> LXDE.desktop contains: Exec=/usr/bin/startlxde
[00:21] <ssl_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934325/
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: and: cat /etc/lightdm/* | pastebinit
[00:25] <ssl_> thats a nice little command! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934339/
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: hmm, try this: sudo dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Accounts /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User`id -u ubuntu` org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetXSession string:chromium
[00:32] <ssl_> dont know what that is, but it returns: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Accounts was not provided by any .service files
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: ls -l /etc/x-session-manager
[00:33] <ssl_> lol i did apt-get autoremove lxde and it still boots up into lxde!
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: lol yup. some packages kinda do that. sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:33] <ssl_> no such directory
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: soory, i'm tired:P     ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager
[00:37] <ssl_> sudo find / | grep x-session-manager       nothing
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: ok, disable the autologin, and select the chromium xsession in lightdm
[00:39] <raj> did anyone hear about this website where you can enter linux commands (with their switches) and it'll tell you what each switch/argument does
[00:39] <raj> so you don't have to hunt through man pages for each option
[00:39] <raj> it was mentioned on lifehacker or something a few months back
[00:40] <pibby> raj: was it "term" something? I think I just saw a link recently, let me see what I can dig up
[00:40] <Rallias> Is there something like veth that doesn't involve the ethernet header implemented in ubuntu?
[00:40] <bekks> raj: google "man page the commandiaminterestedin"
[00:41] <bekks> Rallias: Whats "veth"?
[00:41] <Rallias> bekks, ip link veth0 type veth
[00:42] <pibby> raj: was it this? http://playterm.org/
[00:42] <bekks> Rallias: Is it something like a vnic?
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> raj: i;m sure they';; know in #bash
[00:42] <HolyQuacomole> hitsujiTMO, Yeah I had a bit of trouble trying to install from one of those downloads before. I'll download this version & try it
[00:43] <raj> pibby, no
[00:43] <Jordan_U> Rallias: What is your end goal?
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Rallias: If you want a point to point connection between host and container at layer 3 only, there is: http://openvz.org/Venet .
[00:46] <Rallias> Jordan_U, I want to seperate my client VPN users into separate network namespaces (ip netns) without having to have the local overhead of ethernet headers.
[00:47] <bekks> Rallias: Describe that "overhead" in terms like "count of packets, bandwidth, etc." please.
[00:47] <Rallias> Jordan_U, The overhead of an archaic kernel such as OpenVZ is well in excess of the overhead of routing by ethernet header.
[00:47] <eda_> asdasd
[00:48] <Rallias> bekks, Ethernet packets are bigger, causing unnecessary overhead that I feel should be handled at the gateway as opposed to at the vm.
[00:48] <Rallias> Well... not VM... the only separation is in the network layer.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> Rallias: What type of containers are these?
[00:48] <bekks> "feelings" are something that can be safely ignored in terms of "IT".
[00:48] <Rallias> jordan, Network namespace.
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: are you saying you want to use ethernet without the overhead of ethernet?
[00:49] <Rallias> hitsujiTMO, No. I'm saying I want to use ethernet without the overhead of a local bridge.
[00:49] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Actually, yes.
[00:50] <bekks> Rallias: Describe the "overhead" of a local bridge in terms of "packet size overhead in bytes" and in terms of "amount of packets" please.
[00:50] <bekks> Rallias: you meay use "MTU" in your description as well. :)
[00:50] <Rallias> bekks, More CPU cycles.
[00:51] <bekks> Rallias: LOl
[00:51] <Jordan_U> bekks: Please be respectful to all users of this channel.
[00:51] <Rallias> It is a potential option which I wish to entertain in developing the most efficient setup possible.
[00:51] <bekks> Jordan_U: I will.
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: what layer encapsulation are you reffering to?
[00:53] <Rallias> hitsujiTMO, 3 mostly.
[00:54] <TJ-> Rallias: If I understand correctly, you've got multiple layer-3 (TCP/UDP) VPNs you wish to segregate, and are doing so using containers/network namespaces, and are looking for a way to connect the layer-3 VPNs to the host without having to put them through the layer-2 Ethernet veth interface to a bridge on the host?
[00:55] <Rallias> TJ-, yes.
[00:55] <TJ-> Rallias: Knowing how the kernel passes things around internally, I don't think you need to be too concerned about ethernet headers for those.
[00:55] <ggreer> ok sweet. got dual-booting windows 8 and ubuntu in uefi with secureboot on. now just gotta fix the X segfault :x
[00:58] <ggreer> http://abughrai.be/Xorg.0.log
[00:58] <ggreer> ^^ log from crash
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: if you're talking about a vpn then you need that overhead. it's minimal but necessary. the only thing you could try and do is up the MTU but every device in that network would need to have the same oversized MTU
[00:58] <ggreer> TJ-: you asked for a picture. tada there's the log
[00:58] <Beldar> ggreer, I would pastebin that text
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> ggreer: radeon driver crashing. maybe try fglrx
[00:59] <ggreer> what's wrong with my personal server?
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> Rallias: network segment i should say
[01:00] <daftykins> ggreer: had you already tried to install the AMD proprietary driver 'fglrx' on that install?
[01:01] <ggreer> daftykins: nope
[01:01] <daftykins> ggreer: ah, it's just trying to look for it a few times :)
[01:01] <ggreer> or at least, not intentionally. I did check the "install 3rd party proprietary stuff" in the installer
[01:01] <daftykins> oh right
[01:01] <daftykins> that might be it
[01:01] <ggreer> but I figured that was just mp3 decoding or whatever
[01:01] <daftykins> mmm.
[01:01] <ggreer> no fglrxinfo
[01:02] <daftykins> ggreer: looks like you have the quite new AMD Kabini platform there
[01:03] <ggreer> yeah, I guess
[01:03] <ggreer> lenovo x140e, which is certified with 12.04: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14195/
[01:03] <daftykins> ggreer: i suspect then that you might need to install the latest AMD driver to get that running nicely
[01:03] <ggreer> probably. I'm following the manual instructions now
[01:03] <daftykins> ggreer: that refers to an AMD A4, is yours not an A6? can you check in /proc/cpuinfo ?
[01:04] <ggreer> amd a4-5000
[01:04] <daftykins> oh ok
[01:04] <ggreer> yeah I tried to order the model that was the same as the certified model
[01:05] <ggreer> I'm impressed with the setup process. it was a little tricky to set up encryption for the whole ubuntu partition, but besides that it worked quite well
[01:05] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: i've completly removed lxde and added user-session=chromium-browser to my lightdm.conf, but the lightdm.log says "Failed to find session configuration default" and doesn't seem to try loading my chromium-browser.desktop
[01:05] <ggreer> even secureboot and dual-booting are fine
[01:05] <daftykins> ggreer: how did you get around your earlier troubles? alternate install disc instead?
[01:05] <ssl_> perhaps "user-session" is wrong?
[01:05] <ggreer> graphics worked in the installer
[01:05] <ggreer> so I hit alt + f1 and ran sudo DISPLAY=':0' gparted
[01:06] <TJ-> ggreer: see bug #1253974
[01:06] <ggreer> and got gparted in the installer GUI
[01:06] <ggreer> TJ-: thanks
[01:06] <Jordan_U> ggreer: Next time use gksudo.
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: very strange. i've managed such before tirh other software my self
[01:07] <ggreer> is that even on the install disc?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> ggreer: Yes.
[01:07] <ggreer> neat
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: have you tried disabling the auto login temporarily and setting the xsession in lightdm yet?
[01:08] <MichaelTunnell> what is the channel for ubuntu package management?
[01:09] <[x]> :)
[01:10] <Jordan_U> MichaelTunnell: Package management in what sense?
[01:10] <ssl_> hitsujiTMO: autologin is disabled. what you mean by setting xsession in lightdm?
[01:11] <MichaelTunnell> someone I could point to a bug in my package that is in the repo, I have already submitted the bug but no one is looking at it and it is a Ubuntu specific thing so the Debian maintainer has nothing to do with it
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: in light dm, you can choose your session from the available sessions (top right corner iirc)
[01:11] <ssl_> oh
[01:12] <[x]> ssL
[01:12] <[x]> ssl_, hi
[01:12] <daftykins> MichaelTunnell: something like #ubuntu-packaging
[01:12] <ssl_> well i removed the greeter, so there is no gui left :D
[01:12] <MichaelTunnell> daftykins:  thanks
[01:12] <[x]> wow
[01:12] <ssl_> [x]: hi
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> ssl_: ahh, add in the greeter again and have a test :)
[01:12] <TJ-> MichaelTunnell: #ubuntu-bugs
[01:12] <designbybeck> Awhile back I backed up my system (at least I thought it was all of it) but now I was going to try to move the Steam/Valve back over to the new install so I could play my saved games. How do I find that file and how to I restore it? Do I have to install Steam again? I was hoping since I already downloaded everything I wouldn't have to do it again. Any ideas!?
[01:12] <[x]> [x]
[01:12] <MichaelTunnell> TJ-: thank you as well
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> [x]: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[01:14] <[x]> hitsujiTMO  no
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> [x]: this is the ubuntu support channel, not a chat channel
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | [x] maybe this can help you find a channel
[01:15] <daftykins> designbybeck: #ubuntu-steam
[01:15] <[x]> hitsujiTMO know just trying to get ideas from others broblem
[01:15] <designbybeck> just found it thanks daftykins
[01:15] <designbybeck> I'm there now
[01:15] <[x]> problem *
[01:16] <Hades666> hello
[01:17] <[x]> hitsujiTMO one help how to coonect to ubuntu vm using putty via ssh in host only n/w
[01:18] <HolyQuacomole> ubottu, how's it going bot, want to help me install stuff?
[01:18] <[x]> from windows
[01:18] <HolyQuacomole> ubottu, how do I install a package from source?
[01:18] <daftykins> [x]: find out the VMs IP address, enter that into putty - connect!
[01:18] <[x]> in back track its easy sshd-geneate
[01:18] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: if you think you need a package from source, likely you're doing something wrong
[01:19] <[x]> thanks daftykins
[01:19] <daftykins> [x]: of course the VM needs openssh-server installed
[01:19] <[x]> daftykins 1st we have to config ssh server in ubuntu ??
[01:20] <daftykins> [x]: depends what you installed
[01:20] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, trying to update/fresh install wifi software/drivers. Currently I've had ubuntu on the same machine about 4 times & it sometimes has trouble connecting to the wifi, but I can boot into windows & connect straight away no problems. I'm using a usb wifi
[01:21] <[x]> as like in backtrack how to connect to ssh in ubuntu using ssh keys
[01:22] <daftykins> [x]: you'll have to read up on how to reconfigure SSH
[01:22] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: which chipset does it use? are you in windows right now?
[01:23] <[x]> daftykins any FM for ssh configuration ??
[01:24] <daftykins> you're on your own there i'm afraid
[01:30] <HolyQuacomole> No, today it's working okay for some reason. But usually I'll be on windows all day fine perfect, then I come on ubuntu & it will connect for 5 minutes then not really connect again. Yesterday it was playing up so I custom added the wifi with it's mac address off of the router, it connects to that then makes another edited connection.
[01:30] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, No, today it's working okay for some reason. But usually I'll be on windows all day fine perfect, then I come on ubuntu & it will connect for 5 minutes then not really connect again. Yesterday it was playing up so I custom added the wifi with it's mac address off of the router, it connects to that then makes another edited connection.
[01:30] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, so yeah I'm on ubuntu right now not windows.
[01:32] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: ok, if you run "lsusb" in a terminal, it should show what chipset your wireless device is using
[01:35] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, Yeah sorry forgot to tell you the chipset it's rlt 8192CU, I have been through this with "hitsujiTMO". I got this file to install http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8192CU
[01:35] <daftykins> ah you're in good hands there :)
[01:36] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, I just haven't installed that crap yet, I'm still noob at installing from them kinds of files, I tried checkinstall (that I downloaded to use instead of make install) but it just fails, I'm obviously missing some command lines I'm supposed to add in
[01:36] <[x]> daftykins by default open-ssh is not installed in Ubuntu ?
[01:37] <ggreer> installing amd drivers is quite the rabbit hole
[01:37] <ggreer> https://gist.github.com/moldcraft/8116528
[01:37] <daftykins> [x]: for desktop, no - 'openssh-server' will need to be installed
[01:37] <crash_focus> installing drivers in general is a rabbit hole
[01:37] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: sure, hang on just having a look at the .zip myself - i'm already seeing an install script in the root
[01:38] <ggreer> I mean these ones don't compile
[01:38] <ggreer> so I have to patch them
[01:38] <nohave> i
[01:38] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, Yeah I can't tick the box in its properties to allow to execute it, it unticks itself.
[01:39] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: i wouldn't do things graphically anyway, hang on
[01:39] <[x]> daftykins is desktop version is also for laptop ??
[01:39] <[x]> what is the difference between a desktop version and server ??
[01:39] <daftykins> [x]: it's the one with a GUI, as opposed to the one for servers
[01:40] <[x]> ohhh desktop version only have GUI !
[01:40] <LarryWessels> is KIM KARDASHIAN the BREAD that CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN
[01:40] <LarryWessels> !ops
[01:41] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, should I try installing from terminal again?
[01:41] <LarryWessels> !ops
[01:41] <LarryWessels> !ops | is KIM KARDASHIAN the BREAD that CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN
[01:41] <[x]> !ops
[01:41] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: have you read document/Quick_Start_Guide_for_Driver_Compilation_and_Installation.pdf ?
[01:42]  * Beldar mutters all bread has a shelf life
[01:42] <daftykins> :D
[01:42] <HolyQuacomole> ubottu, are the people who regularly come on here to help people employed by canonical or something?
[01:42] <rww> HolyQuacomole: most of them aren't :)
[01:42] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: lol, that's a bot - no, everyone's a volunteer
[01:45] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: ok so no, that script file isn't for Ubuntu
[01:47] <arun> guys, why BURG is slow than GRUB /
[01:48] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: anywho that download appears to come with instructions, so give the PDFs a read if you're sure you want to update ;)
[01:48] <usr13> arun: try again...
[01:48] <Beldar> arun, burg is ajuat a earlier release of grub with the burg bling, where is it slow exactly?
[01:49] <Beldar> just*
[01:49] <arun> Beldar: while booting
[01:50] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, I'll see how this connection keeps going for a few days. What's his face suggested I install the saucy package of some sort (something to do with xorg) into my precise but it wouldn't install.
[01:50] <arun> Beldar: after the selection of the options ... while the initialization of initram
[01:50] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: you might want to give him whatever errors you encountered there then
[01:50] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: or maybe just wait for April's new release of trusty and upgrade? :)
[01:51] <RexInEffect> can someone explain this hibernatuion problem with sharing swap space
[01:51] <Beldar> arun, I would ask them if you are sure of this, however I don't think it is actually being supported. It's 3rd party status cuts down the support, not sure many use it.
[01:51] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, yeah I think it came to not knowing what was making it not install. Yeah I'm already holding out for then, but 2 months is still a longish time to wait. Another question, how would one go from precise to trusty? Can I upgrade without losing my files & having to reinstall apps?
[01:52] <arun> Beldar: ok dude thanks and is it possible to install ubuntu 32 bit in Windows 8 64 bit (dual boot) ?
[01:53] <rww> yes
[01:53] <ggreer> yessss that guide worked. I have graphics
[01:53] <ggreer> thanks to everyone who gave me hints and suggestions
[01:53] <Beldar> arun, 32 bit on a 64 bit yes, not sure of the access to windows though from ubuntu
[01:53] <daftykins> HolyQuacomole: might be easier to approach that topic at the time. i'm sure someone here would help as and when
[01:54] <daftykins> ggreer: :) glad it worked out
[01:55] <ggreer> everything else worked out of the box
[01:56] <ggreer> wireless, bluetooth, sound, camera, etc
[01:56] <ggreer> although now I can't boot into windows. I get some error about acpi path not found :/
[01:56] <HolyQuacomole> daftykins, Okay, Cheers pal.
[01:56] <ggreer> not sure when that started
[01:56] <ggreer> looks like a grub issue. will troubleshoot myself before asking specifics
[01:57] <HolyQuacomole> ggreer, from my noob experience if you're stuffing around with ubuntu dual boots & ubuntu in general for the first time, unplug other hard drives that the o/s isn't on so that you don't accidentally delete stuff.
[01:57] <daftykins> it's a laptop ;)
[01:57] <ggreer> HolyQuacomole: it's almost certainly a uefi issue
[01:58] <ggreer> I'm trying to dual-boot windows 8.1 and ubuntu 13.10
[01:58] <daftykins> i might power cycle myself to see if it's a quirk
[01:58] <daftykins> but anywho :)
[01:58] <ggreer> yeah I'm about to do that. gotta finish setting up some stuff in ubuntu
[01:58] <ggreer> get my ~/.zprofile over and all that
[01:59] <HolyQuacomole> ggreer, struth. I've had Windows 8.1 & Ubuntu 12.04 lts (I seem to prefer the long term support releases) & I nearly cried when to get rid of ubuntu I deleted its partition & had no bootloaders, had to do some windows recovery command crap to reinstall windows mbr
[02:00] <ggreer> brutal
[02:03] <diegoviola> hi
[02:03] <diegoviola> ubuntu will switch to systemd? wow
[02:04] <ggreer> makes me sad. I worry that software will depend on systemd and then never get ported to freebsd or os x :/
[02:04] <ggreer> I hope that isn't the case. systemd by itself has a lot of neat new things, I just don't want it to cause breakage on other OSes
[02:04] <diegoviola> ggreer: there's lots of software that already depend on systemd, no? like gnome and other DEs
[02:05] <ggreer> they depend on parts of systemd. systemd isn't just a one monolithic program
[02:05] <ggreer> only certain bits are totally un-portable
[02:05] <diegoviola> i'm not worried about that at all
[02:05] <pero> will it be possible to update a server from 12.10 to 14.04?
[02:05] <diegoviola> i'm happy that systemd is actually advancing things
[02:06] <diegoviola> moving things forward
[02:06] <rww> pero: The supported upgrade path would be 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04. I'd probably just reinstall, personally.
[02:06] <ggreer> in my ideal world, systemd and launchd would have a common subset of API bits. then people who want to write interesting portable software could do so
[02:06] <rww> pero: you can only do LTS to LTS directly, so e.g. 12.04 to 14.04 would be direct
[02:06] <ggreer> and then freebsd would ditch svinit for launchd
[02:06] <diegoviola> if other systems want a specific software they could do the work to bring those software into their platforms
[02:06] <ggreer> and we would all hold hands and sing kumbaya
[02:07] <tux_1> Question, how would I install win xp, and 2 other Linux operating systems with the Linux systems using LVM ?
[02:07] <pero> rww: and not possible to downgrade 12.10 to 12.04?
[02:07] <rww> pero: Ubuntu doesn't support downgrading, correct
[02:08] <pero> rww: and 'do-release-upgrade' is the best practice?
[02:08] <rww> pero: on command-line, yes
[02:10] <pero> sudo: do-release-upgrade: command not found
[02:10] <hewhomust> hi would this cron time work for an hourly job * */1 * * *
[02:11] <Guest83946> i tried loading path of exile through playonlinux and it gives me the error failed resetting direct3d device objects. how can i fix that?
[02:11] <rww> pero: I think it's in update-notifier-common package
[02:11] <rww> hewhomust: yes, or just @hourly commandhere
[02:11] <hewhomust> ok thanks
[02:11] <rww> hewhomust: or or some particular minute of the hour, e.g. 7 * * * *
[02:11] <rww> or for **
[02:12] <hewhomust> ok thanks
[02:13] <GreenMuon> how get packa ge with virus inside?
[02:13] <pero> rww: fyi, update-manager-core
[02:13] <pero> rww: thx
[02:13] <GreenMuon> sorry,
[02:13] <GreenMuon> my friend typed that
[02:13] <rww> pero: ah, there we go. thanks for the correction :)
[02:14] <MichaelTunnell> GreenMuon: tell your friend it is called Windows
[02:14] <Bray90820> Not really an ubuntu question but is mpeg2 support built into debian
[02:14] <rww> Bray90820: ask #debian
[02:14] <GreenMuon> haha
[02:15] <MichaelTunnell> Bray90820: media support is different from codec support and basically no distros except mint comes with codecs by default...for legal reasons
[02:16] <MichaelTunnell> but yea ask in #debian for debian questions
[02:16] <Bray90820> But if i were to install the codec on ubuntu does that automatically mean my device can support it or not
[02:17] <Guest83946>  i tried loading path of exile through playonlinux and it gives me the error failed resetting direct3d device objects. how can i fix that?
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> Bray90820: search the Software Center for Restricted Extras
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> that will install codecs and more good stuff
[02:17] <MichaelTunnell> but depends on what you mean by your device so hard to say without more info
[02:18] <Guest83946> thats the error so idk
[02:19] <pero> rww: what if i have 3rd party repos still set for 12.10
[02:19] <pero> should i change them to saucy?
[02:19] <MichaelTunnell> Guest83946: you need to ask the playonlinux guys as I am not familiar with it...so join #playonlinux
[02:19] <Bray90820> I am not talking about any devices specifically just generally if the hardware is good enough to playback mpeg 2 content would installing the codec automatically assure that you can play the files or not
[02:19] <Guest83946> how do i do that?
[02:19] <rww> pero: the upgrade process with comment them out in sources.list. after the upgrade, you can uncomment and change the version on them
[02:19] <rww> will comment **
[02:22] <Bray90820> MichaelTunnell: I am not talking about any devices specifically just generally if the hardware is good enough to playback mpeg 2 content would installing the codec automatically assure that you can play the files or not
[02:28] <rawrmonster> I heard that running a bind server can help get you to new web pages faster but is it smart to run on on a laptop or does it open to many vulnerability unless you know exactly what your doing?
[02:28] <MichaelTunnell> Bray90820: I can't guarantee that...it depends on whether or not the file was encoded correctly...but if the video was made properly then yes installing the extras for the codecs would make them work just fine in Totem or in VLC
[02:28] <Bray90820> Alright
[02:29] <rawrmonster> I was only planning on having the dns sever responding to what ever my ip address is and no other
[02:29] <Bray90820> So it's OS specific not hardware specific
[02:29] <adah> how can i upgrade my bios?
[02:29] <rww> rawrmonster: running a bind server won't help you get to new web pages faster.
[02:30] <rww> rawrmonster: apart from anything else, network-manager in Ubuntu already uses dnsmasq to do what you want bind to do, out of the box. Your home network's router probably does too.
[02:30] <fathin> anyone tried tahr?
[02:30] <rww> fathin: #ubuntu+1 for unreleased Ubuntu, thanks :)
[02:30] <rawrmonster> rww: but wont it stop you from having to go to a public dns and all the way back to you from the internet and you can just ask the dns on your computer for the info
[02:30] <bazhang> fathin, #ubuntu+1 for that
[02:30] <fathin> oh okok
[02:31] <rawrmonster> rww: because my dns at the moment is 4.2.2.2
[02:31] <rww> rawrmonster: no, you'll still have to do that the first time you do a lookup, it'll just cache it. which again, firefox, dnsmasq, and (probably) your router already do
[02:32] <rawrmonster> rww: because it is only the first time i go to a webpage that is sometimes really slow
[02:32] <rww> rawrmonster: bind won't help with that
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> rawrmonster: your local dns needs to get its info from ... the internet. your just adding 1 more layer. not doing you any good
[02:32] <rww> ^
[02:32] <rawrmonster> hitsujiTMO: ahh that makes since
[02:32] <MichaelTunnell> adah: contact your computer manufacturer to see if they have a new bios or not
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> rawrmonster: that has nothing to do with your dns
[02:32] <pero> rww: worked np
[02:33] <rww> pero: great :)
[02:33] <pero> 3.5 isn't 13.10's kernel though is it?
[02:33] <ianorlin> no it is not
[02:33] <pero> that would be digitalocean holding it back
[02:33] <pero> yea i thought so
[02:33] <rww> pero: VPSes tend to supply their own kernel indeed
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> rawrmonster: slow loading pages is just down to a slow connection ... either at your end or the servers
[02:34] <rww> e.g. the version on my Debian Linode VPS is 3.12.6-x86-linode55
[02:34] <rawrmonster> thank you a lot guys hope i was not to much trouble with my noob question :D
[02:34] <rww> :)
[02:34] <hewhomust> can someone recommend a panel that has autohide
[02:35] <fathin> @hew panel?
[02:35] <ianorlin> lxpanel has autohide as well
[02:35] <rww> doesn't Unity's have it in a settings program somewhere
[02:35] <hewhomust> yeah i hate the default one
[02:35] <raj> pibby, hitsujiTMO the website is explainshell.com
[02:36] <raj> btw, is there a usual place to keep tarballs in your home directory?
[02:36] <hypercube32> raj, no, thats all up to you
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> raj: thats purely personal preference
[02:36] <hypercube32> raj, if they are important to you, put them somewhere that is being backed up and you know it
[02:40] <rawrmonster> Not trying to bog you guys down with to many questions so this will be my last for a while. If i am am trying to learn iptables does anyone know a good tutorial that would not require me to spend a lot on a book, but something that is pretty current. I just don't have a lot of money to be spending on expensive books at the moment
[02:40] <raj> I understand it's purely preference, but I wanna know what're some usual directory names
[02:40] <presonic> anyone know why i'd have problems killing a rhythmbox process using kill -9 or killall
[02:40] <raj> it's currently in ~/downloads, where it doesn't belong
[02:40] <rawrmonster> because most of the tutorials that i have found are really really old
[02:40] <raj> ~/tarballs ?
[02:41] <raj> ~/non_repo_packages ? eww ugly
[02:41] <raj> ~/tarballs is too general, I just wanna put tarballs that are installed
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> raj: theres no set place, just puth them in a directory you're comfortable with
[02:41] <TJ-> rawrmonster: "man iptables" ?
[02:41] <presonic> raj: mkdir put_tarballs_in_this_directory
[02:42] <TJ-> rawrite: the iptables packages installs HTML docs to "/usr/share/doc/iptables/html/"
[02:42] <presonic> this process wont die
[02:42] <TJ-> grrr, tab-completion gremlins
[02:42] <TJ-> rawrmonster:  the iptables packages installs HTML docs to "/usr/share/doc/iptables/html/"
[02:42] <genious> presonic whih one?
[02:42] <rawrmonster> TJ-: I have tried reading it but it just seems pretty cryptic to me being a noob i am looking for something that will explain from the ground up so i can learn how it all works at the same time. I do not mind it being long because it bet there is tons of stuff iptables can do.
[02:42] <daftykins> rawrmonster: your best bet is to google for peoples scripts and learn from them, it's not tooooo bad to pick up when you piece together examples
 anyone know why i'd have problems killing a rhythmbox process using kill -9 or killall
[02:43] <raj> hitsujiTMO, presonic where do you keep yours?
[02:43] <presonic> raj: atm im not that organized
[02:43] <genious> presonic go to terminal and sudo top
[02:43] <rawrmonster> TJ-: ook let me check out the html one then
[02:43] <raj> presonic, daemon?
[02:43] <presonic> i typically delete if i dont need them
[02:43] <presonic> otherwise i use ~/ARCHIVE
[02:44] <presonic> raj: idk
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> raj: don't. grab them frsh off the net each time. some things get updated too often for me to bother archiving
[02:44] <presonic> i cant run it because the process is there
[02:44] <presonic> but i cant kill it
[02:44] <TJ-> rawrmonster: little tip for you, each package *may* install some docs and they'll always be under /usr/share/doc/>package-name>/
[02:44] <genious> presonic enter "u" then type in username
[02:45] <rawrmonster> TJ-: You have been so insightful and very much a help. Just wanted to say thank you!
[02:45] <genious> presonic then enter "k"
[02:45] <presonic> genious: in a terminal?
[02:45] <rawrmonster> TJ-: because i know you all don't get paid to help us :D
[02:46] <genious> presonic yes in the terminal
[02:46] <ggreer> uh. I went to settings -> software & updates and it said my packages were out of date or something. I clicked update and now my mouse cursor moves at 1fps and my keyboard is unresponsive
[02:46] <presonic> type the letter u in the terminal?
[02:46] <ggreer> and the hard drive activity is going crazy
[02:46] <presonic> ?
[02:47] <ggreer> oh sure. it goes on for 20 minutes but fixes itself immediately as soon as I complain about it on IRC
[02:47] <genious> once in terminal enter ' sudo top '
[02:47] <eskrima> hi im having a problem with the process of installing the windows drivers and some other components to make my wireless card work with ubuntu 12.04 so the first thing i was suggested to do its not working... .will copy and paste. please mind that i have already ndiswrapper and the nisgkt
[02:47] <genious> presoni it will show you all running processes
[02:47] <TJ-> rawrmonster: the best thing to do is create a virtual machine from an ubuntu server iso, and play about inside it
[02:47] <presonic> genious: i used 'ps uax | grep rhy' and it'll list the process
[02:48] <presonic> then i use kill -9 but it wont die
[02:48] <raj> hitsujiTMO, not a bad idea
[02:48] <genious> presonic dont use that... use the terminal
[02:48] <rawrmonster> TJ-: yea i was going to do that then mess up may computer and not get internet lol
[02:48] <ggreer> it's responsive again. hooray. load average spiked to 10
[02:48] <eskrima> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934842/
[02:48] <eskrima> and
[02:49] <AKILES> hi people
[02:49] <TJ-> rawrmonster: playing inside the virtual machine won't affect your bare-metal install
[02:50] <eskrima> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934851/
[02:50] <ggreer> is it normal for X to use 200MB of memory and compiz to use 128MB? (that's RSS, not virtual or anything)
[02:50] <rawrmonster> TJ- thank you again, and have a great day I'm going to log off
[02:50] <ianorlin> eskrima do you ahve software center open or synaptic package manager?
[02:52] <eskrima> ianorlin i think so
[02:52] <eskrima> let me see
[02:52] <eskrima> actualy what would the name be? ianorlin
[02:54] <eskrima> ianorlin i had problems since i bought this laptop with win 8 and the bios was messing up for me to install the ubuntu cd, so finally i fixed that and the wifi key doesnt work as well as the wifi connection is not being detected. sometimes it will work fine, but mostly not
[02:54] <eskrima> i installed the ndiswrapper and the nisgtk
[02:55] <eskrima> but i need to wrapp the windows network card to that so im stuck
[02:56] <eskrima> ianorlin im stuck now and dont know how to find the wireless card on ubuntu 12.04 lte and installit with ndiswrapper
[02:56] <ianorlin> if you have software center or synaptic open close it as apt-get won't work with those installed
[02:56] <ianorlin> the command should work then
[02:56] <eskrima> ianorlin what is the name of the software you
[02:56] <eskrima> i have a software center yes
[02:57] <eskrima> ianorlin but right now some updates are downloading.
[02:57] <ianorlin> you need to have it closed as apt-get doesn't work with both open
[02:57] <eskrima> ianorlin ooooh ok
[02:57] <ianorlin> ah wait for that to be done first then enter the command
[02:58] <eskrima> ianorlin so didyou saw my two links what i posted earlier? one of the are instructions on how to intall and wrapp the wireless forlinux. is that good for me to follow?
[02:58] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[02:58] <totesmuhgoats> is there a command for apt to have it reinstall every single installed package on the system?
[02:58] <presonic> had to log out to kill the process, doesn't make sense
[02:59] <presonic> can another process protect another process?  it was tied in to the gui?
[02:59] <totesmuhgoats> i have a pc where i found that my dimm slots were not working properly and i'm concerned about data corruption
[02:59] <presonic> kill -9 should be unstoppable, even if another process was protecting it it would end up with a pid
[02:59] <totesmuhgoats> now that i've replaced it i'd like to fetch a good copy of everything installed
[02:59] <ResidentBiscuit> totesmuhgoats: aptitude? This is a situation where backups are very important
[03:00] <bazhang> !clone | totesmuhgoats
[03:01] <ianorlin> I haven't personally followed it but it makes sense
[03:02] <eskrima> ianorlin i haven tried so many wasy (im still a linux beginner) but i dont kmnow any other way
[03:03] <eskrima> ianorlin its really p*******ing me off, that my new laptop cant work on wifi that i have at home...
[03:03] <ResidentBiscuit> How do I change the name of stuff in the Unity launcher?
[03:03] <ResidentBiscuit> For example, gedit shows up as "Text editor" when moused over. I want to change to say "gedit"
[03:03] <eskrima> ianorlin i meant i had tried so many ways, none it works
[03:03] <totesmuhgoats> ResidentBiscuit: i have backups of the user files, i just need a reinstall of all the installed packages, should be very doable
[03:03] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: apt-get --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -d' ' f1`
[03:03] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: thanks, i'll try it out
[03:04] <eskrima> ianorlin be back, need to restart the pc
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Supposedly, it should reinstall every package installed on the system.
[03:04] <pac1> How do you copy an associative array?
[03:04] <mdh> pac1: which language
[03:04] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: thanks, i'll look into the clone thing first and failing that i'll give that a try
[03:05] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats:  ;D
[03:09] <totesmuhgoats> i am not sure apt-clone is what i'm looking for
[03:10] <root___> what is apt-clone?
[03:11] <bluefox83> i need help sharing a printer to my network
[03:12] <bluefox83> it prints fine from the host machine running 12.04 but i don't know how to share it properly
[03:12] <SpartanS63> Anyone have experience with Nvidia Optimus laptops and multiple monitors?
[03:14] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: would you mind explaining what the f1 does for cut?
[03:16] <totesmuhgoats> also my apt-get does not seem to accept the --reinstall argument
[03:16] <totesmuhgoats> i am on 12.04 so maybe it was added more recently?
[03:17] <kostkon> totesmuhgoats, apt-get install pckg_name --reinstall should work
[03:17] <Rallias> Is there a way to su to a user using a separate pty?
[03:17] <totesmuhgoats> kostkon: thanks
[03:19] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: I do not recall off the top of my head, give me a bit to hunt up the info.
[03:20] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: well the command doesn't seem to work for me, i think the arguments for cut are wrong
[03:20] <blenderman> .
[03:26] <jmad980> totesmuhgoats: what are you trying to do?
[03:29] <\x00> Sucks how Netflix does not work with Ubuntu.
[03:29] <eskrima> ianorlin what means this/??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934976/
[03:29] <kostkon> \x00, tried with pipelight?
[03:29] <\x00> pipelight?
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> pipelight
[03:30] <\x00> apt-get pipelight?
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> \x00: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[03:31] <eskrima> ianorlin i was doing this syntax here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934988/
[03:31] <\x00> Oh I see, ok thanks!
[03:31] <eskrima> hi hitsujiTMO
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> o/
[03:31] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO are you able to help me something please?
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: whats the problem?
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> oh, wireless issues
[03:33] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO thankyou :) ok im installing the problem of the wireless (maybe you remember some time ago you helped me) so anyway i couldnt solve nothing and now im again doing,. i found a website that is following me through the wireless install. i laready installed ndiswrapper and ndisgkt. now im doing this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934988/
[03:34] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO oh wow thankyou you remember!!!!!
[03:34] <bluefox83> exit
[03:34] <ianorlin> are you trying to open that file part of it?
[03:35] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO now im following this webstite
[03:35] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690
[03:37] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO and i got this in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935002/
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: thats a config not an executable. from the looks of it, its already configured like that so you can go ahead to the next step
[03:40] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO ok thanks will be doing now. lets see
[03:40] <ggreer> the brighten/dim buttons on my laptop aren't doing anything. in ubuntu, my laptop's screen stays at maximum brightness no matter what I do :(
[03:40] <ggreer> even if I go to settings -> power manager and try to mess with the brightness
[03:40] <ggreer> any idea on how to troubleshoot? it's a lenovo x140e
[03:41] <ggreer> oh, and if I press the brightness buttons, ubuntu's OSD shows up and moves the brightness indicator up and down
[03:42] <ggreer> but the actual backlight brightness stays the same
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> ggreer: check the backlight kernel params here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight#ACPI ... if none of em work then you'll have to script the acpi events
[03:42] <darthanubis> vdpau+nvidia+recorded mpeg2= artifacts
[03:42] <ggreer> k
[03:43] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: what are you doing here?
[03:43] <darthanubis> anyone have information related, or experiencing the same issues. I've seen it discussed briefly on the web, but nothing works for me except turning vdpau off.
[03:44] <totesmuhgoats> jmad980: i have an ubuntu system that I discovered had a bad motherboard (bad DIMM slots), so I replaced the board and now want to reinstall every single package on the system to make sure that I don't have corrupted binaries
[03:44] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO i saved some of your indications last time. unfortunatelly somehow i managed to save pieces and bits.. so i couldnt do anything or understand what was the process.  i was even lookin for you a couple of time for you here, but i guess the time difference from eu and pacific it was hard to find you haha!
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> lol, you. btw, chat logs are online: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/02/15/%23ubuntu.txt
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> s/you/yup
[03:46] <pac1> mdh, better question: which open freenode channel... It was meant for #bash....
[03:47] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO did i did something wrong here ?
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: ?
[03:47] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO i was letting it run from the previous input, which i noticed it put me in the root
[03:47] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO sorry forgot to paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935030/
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: just a bad guide. start again: make clean. then exit the root
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: then when in non root, run make
[03:49] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO hmm ok i didnt know that its bad. how to exit root? and you mean start from the 1st  input?
[03:50] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO your explanation seemed faster and easier but ok.
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: before you exit, type: make clean                     then to exit: exit
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: after that run: make
[03:51] <eskrima> okk
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: pastebin the output of make please. it does look like its not compiling
[03:51] <eskrima> ok
[03:55] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO here u go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[03:56] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO I just did make make clean
[03:56] <eskrima> and exit
[03:56] <eskrima> and input again
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: yup failing to compile :(
[03:59] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO hmm do u think is because its missing something? python:i386? or something else
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: no, prob kernel version or gcc version
[04:00] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: is this 12.04?
[04:01] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO yes 12.04 lte
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: you could try installing a 3.2 kernel and building it with that
[04:02] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO so that means install 3.2 kernel and restart the procedure over again? where do i fid 3.2 kernel?
[04:02] <osmodivs> Hello, whe I try to record a video from Youtube with RECORMYDESKTOP GTK, all I see is a green screen, how do I fix it?
[04:04] <bazhang> osmodivs, just download the youtube video insteas
[04:04] <Stainedhat> osmodivs: Youtube-dl
[04:04] <bazhang> firefox video download helper does it as well
[04:04] <Stainedhat> osmodivs: apt-cache search youtube-dl
[04:04] <osmodivs> Well, I am not trying to download videos, just record stuff, like when playing an emulator or other thing, and then record it
[04:05] <bazhang> osmodivs, then check out kazam
[04:05] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: I have not been ignoring your request, still pursuing a solution.
[04:05] <bazhang> why not aptoncd totesmuhgoats
[04:05] <bazhang> !aptoncd
[04:06] <bazhang> or clonezilla if you want to go that route
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: linux-image-3.2.0-58-generic is the lastest 3.2 kernel. install that from the repo... as well as the headers linux-headers-3.2.0-58-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-58             then boot to it and test to make sure everything works. then restart the process for building the wifi module
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: i'm afraid i have to head to bed, so good luck. i should be back on tomorrow at some stage anyhow
[04:08] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO excuse my ignorance, but before u go whrere are the repo?
[04:09] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO thanks a lot will try ti\o work with it. good night!!
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: repos = what you install stuff from when you go: sudo apt-get install blaaaarg    so just sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-58-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-58-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-58                                       you can then boot to that specific kernel from the grub boot menu
[04:10] <osmodivs> Kazam just wont open...
[04:10] <arashb> ive got ubuntu installed on a sd card for my raspberry pi. if ive lost my password, how can i reset it? I can modify files on the sd card directly through my pc
[04:11] <eskrima> hitsujiTMO okk will try to do it. thanks againnn!take care good night!
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> eskrima: gnight!
[04:12] <kostkon> osmodivs, try vokoscreen. are you trying to record your desktop ?
[04:12] <osmodivs> kostkon, Yes, but while opening youtube videos and other websites
[04:13] <kostkon> osmodivs, ok. try with vokoscreen then
[04:13] <osmodivs> kostkon, So far Recordmydesktop GTK and Kazam have failed at this
[04:13] <osmodivs> kostkon, Have you tried that one before? because I just cant keep downloading stuff randomly
[04:14] <kostkon> osmodivs, yes, i've used it a couple of times
[04:14] <osmodivs> kostkon, Is not even in Synaptic...
[04:14] <fathin> eskrima can u boot up to grub?
[04:14] <kostkon> osmodivs, i know
[04:15] <eericu> hola
[04:16] <kostkon> osmodivs, http://iloveubuntu.net/how-install-vokoscreen-18-ubuntu-1204-lts-ubuntu-1210-ubuntu-1304-and-ubuntu-1310
[04:16] <SonikkuAmerica> eericu: Hola, si hablas español /join #ubuntu-es para recibir ayuda. ¡Gracias!
[04:19] <fathin> arashb can u boot up to grub?
[04:24] <osmodivs> kostkon, Tampoco funciona, pantalla verde
[04:24] <osmodivs> parece que nada funciona
[04:24] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running three instances of an application, how can I find which PID is related to which one?
[04:24] <kostkon> osmodivs, is that spanish? can't read it
[04:24] <osmodivs> RECORDMYDESKTOPgtk, Kazam, Vokosscreen no funcionan
[04:24] <osmodivs> kostkon, Oh, yeah. sorry :P
[04:25] <osmodivs> they just dont work
[04:25] <osmodivs> All I get is a green screen
[04:25] <osmodivs> Green screen of death I call it
[04:26] <kostkon> osmodivs, it could be a graphics card driver problem. btw what desktop environment are you using
[04:28] <osmodivs> kostkon,  LXDE
[04:29] <totesmuhgoats> bazhang: i don't think you understand what i'm asking
[04:29] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: i found something that is helpful, aptitude reinstall '~i'
[04:30] <totesmuhgoats> it's not going well though, for some reason it reports a bunch of packages aren't installed that very obviously are
[04:30] <MACscr> if i installed something with apt-get and then later added another repo that had newer version of that application, why would apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade omd, not upgrade it? apt-get install omd shows the newer version
[04:30] <totesmuhgoats> so I am just going to blow away the install and start over
[04:30] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: thanks for helping me look for a solution though
[04:32] <Bashing-om>  totesmuhgoats; still , we need to operate on all installed packages, I have yet to find the fallacy in the code I gave, ( cut is a POSIX inbuilt function).
[04:32] <kostkon> osmodivs, last but not least simple screen recorder. im recommending you this because it can record opengl windows, if you select opengl as the video input. why not give it a try.
[04:33] <kostkon> osmodivs, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/simple-screen-recorder-linux
[04:33] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: would you like to see the output I get when i run it?
[04:33] <cashnguns> I recently updated 12.04 and also firefox.  Firefox locks up every time i open it and open more than 1 window.  tried reinstalling Firefox and also turning off hardware acceleration ...what else should I try? going down to a older version?
[04:34] <\x00> I installed some kali repositorys to ubuntu
[04:35] <\x00> I do not have all the pen testing tools, but I guess I am ok with this distro for now
[04:36] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: it says cut: you must specify a list of bytes, characters, or fields
[04:36] <totesmuhgoats> maybe you can't pipe output to cut?
[04:37] <Stainedhat> What are you missing \x00?
[04:38] <kostkon> cashnguns, does it lock up when you start it in safe mode? help -> restart with addons disabled
[04:39] <eskrima> fathin what do you mean i dont know how to du
[04:39] <eskrima> do
[04:40] <fathin> no, wrong person sry
[04:41] <eskrima> fathin im more of a beginner linux and i woldnt know how to do it
[04:41] <eskrima> i actually bought a new laptop with the win 8 preinstalled
[04:42] <MACscr> sorry to hear that
[04:43] <eskrima> fathin the bios were totaly different and i had a really really hard time installin ubuntu on with the original ubuntu 12.10 cd. it didnt want to boot, delet win or install ubuntu. really a disaster. than somehow i figured how to disable secure boot and thats how i downloaded the 12.04 because my ubuntu 12.10 cd doesnt work. i dont know if its even good cd. so i downloaded 12.04 and since then my wireless adaptor (internal) doesnt 
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: wifi adapter chipset?
[04:44] <eskrima> fathin even the button doesnt work . the wifi its seems to be disconnected by the hardware switch. so so far i have installed ndsiwrapper and ndisgkt
[04:44] <eskrima> yeah lotuspsychje
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: did you connect internet during setup and install updates?
[04:45] <eskrima> lotuspsychje i was now at the point where i was following this instrucitons http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690
[04:45] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: Think I got it, ->-f1 Using (-f) option, you are specifying the extraction field number. (In this example its 1 i.e. first field). so -> make "cut -d' ' f1` to be ->"cut -d' '-f1`" Place the '-' before 'f1' ....
[04:45] <eskrima> and i got this.... .paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[04:46] <eskrima> lotuspsychje and supposedly is compaling to file
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: do you have a ralink chipset?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: can you plugin an internet cable to do updates?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | eskrima
[04:47] <totesmuhgoats> maybe you can't pipe output to cut?
[04:47] <totesmuhgoats> ignore that
[04:48] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: i am getting invalid operation somepackagename
[04:48] <eskrima> lotuspsychje hmm i think it came with the laptop (internal) the wifi was working fine with the win 8. also i dont remember if i connected to the internet during setup
[04:48] <totesmuhgoats> i don't believe my apt-get takes an argument --reinstall
[04:48] <eskrima> lotuspsychje yeah i can connect lan, and usb thet
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: try an internet cable right now and update, might get your latest wifi drivers
[04:49] <SonikkuAmerica> totesmuhgoats: It doesn't hurt to try: [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall $PACKAGE ]
[04:49] <eskrima> also sometims the wifi magically works
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> SonikkuAmerica: thanks
[04:49] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: I am sure it does, let me go back and RE-examine, It should work, (should!!).
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: now we have a new problem
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> so cut now is syntactically correct
[04:49] <eskrima> lotuspsychje did already,
[04:49] <totesmuhgoats> but doesn't remove the stuff after the delimeter specified
[04:50] <totesmuhgoats> so it thinks the "install" on every line is a pakage
[04:50] <totesmuhgoats> and i get a ton of lines that say unable to locate package install
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: pastebin output of lshw -C network please
[04:50] <eskrima> im about to get kernel 3.2 and go follow again from start the link i gavbe u
[04:52] <eskrima> lotuspsychje http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935233/
[04:53] <eskrima> lotuspsychje what is thge command to get out of root in terminal?
[04:53] <potatoe> where is efivars?
[04:53] <potatoe> i cant find it
[04:53] <potatoe> modprobe efivars doesnt do anything
[04:53] <potatoe> even when i do  lsmod
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: did you type something wrong? lshw -C network
[04:54] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: here's what works aptitude reinstall '~i'
[04:54] <totesmuhgoats> it selects all the packages and tries to reinstall
[04:54] <eskrima> loyuspsychje im in the root currently.. how do i get back
[04:55] <totesmuhgoats> but it ails because "I wasn't able to locate a file for the ____ package. This might mean you need to manually fix the package."
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | eskrima
[04:55] <totesmuhgoats> if I manually reinstall then it gives the that error for a different package
[04:57] <Stainedhat> eskrima: if you did su or sudo -I or sudo -s just type exit.. if you're in the /root directory just type cd to change to your home directory.. if you just used sudo for a single command you don't need to do anything. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking
[04:57] <eskrima> lotuspsychje
[04:57] <eskrima> me neither :)
[04:57] <eskrima> ok got it
[04:57] <Stainedhat> Haha well, that makes two of us.. cheers
[04:58] <eskrima> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935243/
[04:58] <eskrima> stainedhat i do but at the same time dont know hpo\ow to explain
[04:59] <Stainedhat> eskrima: no worries.. as long as one of the answers worked you're good to go
[04:59] <eskrima> actually we are still figuring out stainedhat
[05:00] <eskrima> stainedhat let me tell you
[05:00] <Stainedhat> eskrima: sure, I'll try to help.. explain your problem again please
[05:01] <eskrima> another user that just left 30 min ago told me to install 3.2 kernel and than start from the beginning the process i was working on. the thing is that my wifi is not wrking since i installed ubuntu 12.04. i wrote more details just l ittle bit above here if you want you can see so its more easy to understand
[05:02] <eskrima> stainedhat this is the process i was working on earlier when i got a problem on my laptop that the command doesnt work so hitsujiTMO recommended to install 3.2 kernel and start over. link here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690
[05:03] <Stainedhat> Are you using network manager or another 3rd party app such as wicd?
[05:04] <Stainedhat> eskrima: ahh gotcha Ok, so where in the process are you getting errors or having problems?
[05:05] <eskrima> stainedhat both haha
[05:05] <eskrima> the terminal is giving me erros i willpaste for you
[05:06] <Stainedhat> Ok, lemme take a look at the errors and we'll go from there
[05:07] <eskrima> stainedhat here the errors when i went to do this cd ~/DPO_RT3290_LinuxSTA_V2600_20120508... it gave me this report paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[05:07] <eskrima> paste.ubuntu.com/6935047/
[05:08] <eskrima> stainedhat here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935286/
[05:09] <eskrima> stainedhat someone here earlier said that is failing to compile...
[05:09] <eskrima> stainedhat thats why i was suggested to get the 3.2 kernel and go from there
[05:10] <eskrima> stainedhat sorry my ignorance but im a begginer in linux
[05:10] <Stainedhat> Yes, it appears to be due to the headers you have installed.. run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) then try and make it again
[05:11] <Stainedhat> This should install the 3.2 headers
[05:11] <Stainedhat> Tell me what the output of "sudo uname -r" is please
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: your driver looks good, but your network says: disabled
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: you sure your network isnt disabled in bios or hardware switch?
[05:12] <chikis> hola
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !es | chikis
[05:12] <eskrima> stainedhat yeah ok so to get out of root and to go to sudo i just type sudo?
[05:13] <eskrima> lotuspsychje yeah already checked
[05:13] <chikis> ubuntu-es
[05:13] <eskrima> its the laptop tripping out.
[05:13] <chikis> #ubuntu-es
[05:13] <eskrima> its disabled by the hardware switch. not even the wifi button doesnt work on the keyboard
[05:14] <eskrima> stainedhat so how do i get to sudo// my terminal is currently in root
[05:14] <Stainedhat> If you're in root just run the commands without sudo.
[05:14] <eskrima> i used to have sudo before this problem im working on now
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> eskrima: try the ##hardware channel to troubleshoot bios wifi options for your machine
[05:15] <eskrima> stainedhat but will that prevent me to be better installation as with sudo
[05:15] <eskrima> lotuspsychje will try thanks
[05:16] <Stainedhat> Wait what? Sudo is just "superuser do".. root is the superuser in Linux. If you run something with sudo you are basically just telling the system to run it as root. If you're already at a root prompt (#) then sudo is irrelevant
[05:16] <eskrima> stainedhat hold on im doing the command as you said with the sudo uname -r ... so i type sudo uname -r exactly like that or my name?? :)
[05:17] <Stainedhat> Type exactly "sudo uname -r"
[05:17] <eskrima> stainedhat ooooohhh T.T
[05:17] <eskrima> stainedhat ok hold on now will try what you said
[05:17] <Stainedhat> Or uname -r if you're already at a root prompt
[05:17] <Stainedhat> K
[05:18] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: see:http://hyperlogos.org/page/Restoring-Permissions-Debian-System ; http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40573.html <-confirms we are on the right track.
[05:20] <eskrima> stainedhad http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935321/
[05:21] <eskrima> ##hardware
[05:21] <nathaneltitane> hello,
[05:21] <nathaneltitane> i would like to open a subshell as gdm in a bash script to automate gdm modifications
[05:22] <Stainedhat> You're still on the 3.8 kernel. I don't know why the other person had you downgrade to 3.2 but maybe there is something I don't know. And you're sure you followed all the directions in that post and didn't miss any steps?
[05:23] <eskrima> one step i couldn do was     cd ~
[05:23] <totesmuhgoats> Bashing-om: well the system is a living room system that is fairly static, i'll probably just blow the install away and reinstall since it wouldn't be very much work
[05:24] <eskrima> stainedhat that step it didnt allow me to do, it just skipped
[05:25] <eskrima> stainedhat do u suggest that i start over from begining
[05:25] <Stainedhat> That just changes directory to your home dir.. are you using Kali Linux?
[05:26] <eskrima> no
[05:26] <eskrima> stainedhat ubuntu 12.04 lts
[05:27] <Stainedhat> Ok, I noticed Kali in the hostname and wondered.. I would start over from the very beginning and make sure you have all dependencies installed
[05:27] <eskrima> stainedhat as you previously saw since i bought a new laptop it came with windows 8 and i very different bios. not gui
[05:27] <Stainedhat> Yeah uefi right?
[05:27] <eskrima> stainedhat kali is a hindu goddes and a martial art. but i also learned that is something with thelinux to do
[05:28] <eskrima> stainedhat so when i tried all the possible ways to understand the new bios and run as usually everyone is used to run programms and softwares, especially os cd via cd
[05:28] <Stainedhat> Well, there is a security based distro names kali which is what I thought you may be running. It's not super stable which is why I was asking
[05:28] <n^izzo> hey all, I have an alias that reloads the bashrc (source ~/.bashrc) is there any way to stop it printing to the terminal?
[05:29] <madoka> join #linuxbar
[05:29] <eskrima> stainedhat mine wasnt even being recognized. the bios that i got is really poor and only little options
[05:29] <eskrima> stainedhat yes
[05:29] <rogi1> any idea how to fix this(from boot.log)? start-stop-daemon: unable to chdir() to /home/igor/.couchpotato (No such fil    e or directory)
[05:29] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: You could echo the output to /dev/null
[05:29] <eskrima> stainedhat are you able to remote and check what is wrong?
[05:30] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: at the moment I have it going to /dev/null - 'echo "1" > .bashrcpl & source ~/.bashrc 2>/dev/null'
[05:30] <dalit> hi guys
[05:31] <n^izzo> hey
[05:31] <dalit> im having trouble with magnet links in transmission , when ever i open a magnet link from my browser it pops up an "LAUNCH APPLICATION WINDOW" where i have to select an application
[05:31] <dalit> but what to select , i dont know
[05:32] <Stainedhat> eskrima: I'm on my phone right now but I could probably switch to my desktop in a bit. Try running through the instructions fresh one more time and if it doesn't work I'll try and take a look for you. You'd have to run team viewer or open ssh or something for me to connect though
[05:32] <bazhang> dalit, the transmission binary
[05:32] <Stainedhat> dalit: maybe run "which transmission" w
[05:33] <Stainedhat> dalit: sorry hit enter too soon.. run that command then browse to the location it outputs and select the transmission binary
[05:33] <eskrima> stainedhat i think i have teamviewr but never used on linux, just windows i know how. ok let me know will wait and try again from the beginning
[05:34] <n^izzo> dalit: the binary is in /usr/bin/
[05:34] <dalit> Stainedhat : can u repeat the command clearly in "  "
[05:35] <Stainedhat> Yeah team viewer has a .deb for Linux. If you download from their site go to previous versions and get version 8.x for either 32bit or 64bit. Don't download 9 cause my corporate license is only good for 8
[05:35] <Bashing-om> totesmuhgoats: still an interesting situation to resolve, but not tonight, My brain is turning mushy and I am done for this session.
[05:35] <n^izzo> dalit: its called transmitssion-gtk
[05:36] <dalit> n^izzo : there is nothing named transmission in my usr/bin
[05:36] <Stainedhat> dalit: run "which transmission" from a terminal and it will tell you where the binary is
[05:36] <Stainedhat> eskrima: which command?;
[05:37] <eskrima> stainedhat teamviewer im gettin now?
[05:37] <dalit> Stainedhat : it dosnt returns anything...
[05:37] <eskrima> im on their website
[05:38] <dalit> n^izzo : i went ti fileSystem/bin and could'nt find transmission
[05:38] <Stainedhat> dalit: how did you install transmission?
[05:39] <n^izzo> dalit: make sure transmission is installed
[05:40] <dalit> n^izzo : of course it is. I have used it multiple times to downlaod .torrent files in past
[05:40] <n^izzo> dalit: ok but I dont know that
[05:40] <dalit> Stainedhat : apt-get install transmission
[05:40] <Stainedhat> eskrima: just hover over download and select previous version.. then 8.x on the right hand side.. then choose your .deb package and download it.. from the terminal run "dpkg -i <name of team viewer .deb package>"
[05:41] <eskrima> ok hold on because im slow here haha
[05:41] <Stainedhat> dalit: open a terminal and type transmiss then hit tab.. whatever that tab completetion produces is the name of the binary.. type "which <whatever tranmiss+tab reported>"
[05:42] <eskrima> stainedhat can i hover over v9 first or i should find v8?
[05:42] <Stainedhat> Actually hang on lemme remote to my desktop then I'll find out what the name is
[05:42] <will_b> hi guys, was wondering if you could help me on installing some opengl libs...
[05:42] <n^izzo> dalit: another option is to do "find / -name transmission-gtk 2>/dev/null"
[05:42] <eskrima> kul thanks
[05:43] <Stainedhat> eskrima: hover over the download option at the top of the page.. it should produce another menu that has download "previous versions"
[05:43] <eskrima> ok
[05:45] <Stainedhat> dalit: type "which transmission-gtk" that will tell you where the bin is
[05:45] <dalit> n^izzo : it gave http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935392/plain/
[05:46] <dalit> Stainedhat : refer http://paste.ubuntu.com/6935392/plain/ ,something i found
[05:46] <eskrima> stainedhat ok im downloading/saving it now. so next is the command i give to terminal as you said???
[05:47] <angelllls> 大家好
[05:47] <Stainedhat> eskrima: "sudo dpkg -i <name of deb file>" from the directory where you save the deb file.
[05:48] <Stainedhat> Obviously substitute <name of deb file> with the name of the downloaded team viewer .deb file
[05:48] <dalit> Stainedhat : n^izzo : if that link dosnt work http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Fg7rUgeW
[05:48] <eskrima> stainedhat sorry i have problems with this. i actually didnt saved it yet nowhere. it usually downloads to the "downloads folder" by itself. so now i have to copy paste and go to /etc and create a file to save it there or???
[05:49] <bazhang> !cn | apple
[05:49] <n^izzo> dalit: read the second to last entry
[05:49] <black_angel> apple: u r joking?
[05:49] <n^izzo> dalit: as I said it is in /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:49] <Stainedhat> dalit: it's /user/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:50] <Stainedhat> No just run the dpkg command from downloads where the file is
[05:50] <dalit> Stainedhat : ok wait iwill get u something
[05:50] <n^izzo> shortp
[05:51] <Stainedhat> dalit: when the window pops up in Firefox just browse to File System>/usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:51] <osmar> oi
[05:52] <n^izzo> how do I suppress all output of a command, I have tried "2>/dev/null" but I still get output
[05:52] <wazyl> Windows - Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, dual booting - every once in awhile when booting into Windows, USB mouse and keyboard won't work - what's the deal ?
[05:52] <eskrima> stainedhat it says that dpkg: error processing teamviewer (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing 8.x.deb (--install):
[05:52]  * Guest97141 <love>
[05:53] <eskrima> stainedhat i typed this sudo dpkg -i teamviewer 8.x.deb file
[05:53] <dalit> Stainedhat : n^izzo :  got it well and clean , thanks a lot !
[05:53] <will_b> xubuntu - trying to install freeglut3-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, and getting a message to remove  libgl1-mesa-dev:i386, libx11-xcb-dev:i386, mesa-common-dev:i386 and I was wondering if that was safe
[05:54] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: command 2>&1 /dev/null
[05:55] <Stainedhat> eskrima: what is the exact name of the .deb file?
[05:56] <eskrima> stainedhat teamviewer 8.x?
[05:56] <eskrima> stainedhat this download from the website went to the folder "downloads" automaticly
[05:57] <Stainedhat> In downloads type "ls teamview*" and tell me what it outputs
[05:57] <Stainedhat> Make sure you type the *
[05:57] <eskrima> stainedhat idont know what is .deb file ... :(
[05:58] <eskrima> ok
[05:58] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: that made it worse :P
[05:59] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: now I get 2 lines of text
[06:00] <eskrima> stainedhat i went to the folder downloads and doesnt find nothing..
[06:00] <eskrima> stainedhat as well as in the terminal
[06:00] <eskrima> stainedhat but i noticed if i type ssh into the terminal it gives me out some data.. you need that ?
[06:02] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: damn sorry man, didn't mean to make it worse.. are you in a bash shell?
[06:02] <Stainedhat> One sec eskrima
[06:02] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: its all good
[06:02] <eskrima> stainedhad i didnt told you yet that i didnt set up the teamviewer yet ... uff
[06:02] <eskrima> okk
[06:03] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: I'm writing a bash script (.bashrc)
[06:03] <eskrima> stainedhat.. ohhh sorry i downloaded the windowns verision... ok will hold
[06:03] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: try this.. "command &> /dev/null" that should work
[06:04] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: the line in question is alias longp='echo "0" > .bashrcpl & source ~/.bashrc 2>/dev/null'
[06:04] <wazyl> Windows 7 - Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, dual booting - every once in awhile when booting into Windows, USB mouse and keyboard won't work - what's the deal ?
[06:04] <daftykins> i'd blame your system not Ubuntu
[06:04] <daftykins> :)
[06:04] <Stainedhat> eskrima: is your system 64bit or 32 bit?
[06:05] <daftykins> do they work after replugging?
[06:05] <n^izzo> wazyl: I have had the same issue, I just turn it off and on again or unplug the mouse and kb and plug them back in
[06:05] <wazyl> n^izzo: fuck that shit.
[06:05] <eskrima> 64bit stainedhat.. sorry i messed up i m downloading and setting up the llinux version. i did download the windows by accident
[06:05] <n^izzo> wazyl: LOL
[06:06] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running three instances of an application, how can I find which PID is related to which one?
[06:06] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: I think there may be issues with that command.. what is it outputting?
[06:06] <eskrima> stainedhat now its installed let me run that again what you asked before with ....somehign's
[06:06] <eskrima> something
[06:06] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: mine is outputing "[1] 6057"
[06:07] <wazyl> Ubuntu is about to get the uninstall and Slackware is about to get the install.
[06:07] <wazyl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/320065/all-usb-ports-stop-working-when-booting-windows-after-using-ubuntu
[06:07] <n^izzo> Stainedhat: your dose the same "[1] 6201"
[06:07] <Stainedhat> eskrima: let me know one you have run "dpkg -i team viewer_Linux_x64.deb"
[06:08] <`Tbird`> enjoy
[06:09] <Stainedhat> Hold on guys lemme switch to my desktop.. too much multitasking for the phone right now haha.. brb
[06:09] <eskrima> stainedhat it says not such file in directory
[06:10] <n^izzo> mojtaba: you can do "top -A"
[06:10] <Stainedhat> ok, back
[06:11] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: can you repeat that command please? sorry to make you type it so manyt imes but now I'm on a different system
[06:11] <Stainedhat> eskrima: did you get it installed?
[06:11] <eskrima> stainedhat yes haha i feel so dumb
[06:11] <n^izzo> mojtaba: "top -A" it will sort by age then you can kill the oldest middle youngest... depending on what one you want to kill
[06:11] <eskrima> i have a code for
[06:11] <eskrima> you
[06:12] <wazyl> n^izzo: will_b has been throwing me some pointers, out of curiosity what mobo do you have ?
[06:12] <Stainedhat> please msg me privately
[06:12] <Stainedhat> eskrima: type / msg Stainedhat without the space between / and msg
[06:12] <n^izzo> wazyl: was that for me?
[06:13] <wazyl> yes.
[06:14] <n^izzo> wazyl: ASUS P8Z77-M-PRO
[06:14] <Stainedhat> n^izzo: replace the 2> /dev/null with &> /dev/null
[06:14] <wazyl> hmm, k, I've got the 787
[06:18] <pipi_> Quick question, What happens if I recompile from source a newer version of a specific application without removing it ?
[06:19] <norad> hey everyone im a noob at irc and using irssi how do you disconnect from irssi ?
[06:19] <pipi_> norad: Nice try
[06:19] <norad> no im serius i dont know how
[06:19] <rww> norad: /quit
[06:20] <norad> awesome thanks :)
[06:20] <pipi_> "/exit" works too i think
[06:20] <norad> no exit dosnt work
[06:20] <pipi_> "/wc" to close channel
[06:23] <lotus-blade> is ther a way to let a user not have to enter the su pass every time they need admin privileges?
[06:26] <daftykins> lotus-blade: educate them on the correct use of 'sudo -s'
[06:27] <pipi_> lotus-blade: This might help, I think,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/246146/how-can-i-permanently-grant-root-access-to-a-user
[06:27] <mojtaba> n^izzo: thanks
[06:27] <chel__> if I have emacs23 and 24 installed how can I specify emacs23 open when using the "emacs" command in the terminal?
[06:29] <pipi_> chel__: Wow, How you did you manage to install 2 different verions of Emac ? Your answer could help me figure out the answer to my question
[06:29] <mojtaba> n^izzo: The only problem is that, top has not -A option.
[06:32] <chel__> pipi_, I used Cassou's PPA to install emacs 24
[06:34] <blank_one> hi
[06:34] <LeeYangKong> 他妈的我的猫我在哪里可以询问Ubuntu的阴茎
[06:36] <LeeYangKong> 吮吸我的鸡巴你这个白痴的ubuntu 13.10 ftp客户端
[06:36] <blank_one> Does anyone here know how to get ubuntu to dual boot on a surface pro 2
[06:36] <rww> LeeYangKong: cut it out.
[06:36] <blank_one> secure boot is driving me nuts, + marvel wireless driver issues.
[06:37] <Godel> Hello. I just upgraded my Ubuntu to 13.10. It freezes every time it boots up. When I restart, it sort of works, but I get a bunch of general error messages, like there was a problem, do you want to report it or not. Can anyone help me find the reason this happens?
[06:43] <n^izzo> mojtaba: sorry that is an interactive command
[06:43] <n^izzo> mojtaba: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_top.htm
[06:43] <mojtaba> n^izzo: thanks, I will check it now
[06:48] <Beldar> blank_one, This link suggests the secure boot off. http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/
[06:51] <chel__> if I have emacs 23 and 24 installed how can I specify emacs 23 open when using the "emacs" command in the terminal?
[06:56] <Gallomimia> hey i'm having trouble with a ubuntu install. it's hung for a very long time on the ubuntu One sign in
[06:57] <ABC-XYZ> that depends entirely on how you've installed those versions of emacs
[06:57] <jangkrik> hi
[06:58] <blank_one> hi
[06:59] <Gallomimia> what is wrong with the ubuntu One account page and how do i get past it??
[06:59] <chel__> ABC-XYZ, I installed both with aptitude
[07:01] <Semor>  I want to output the include path ,which is searched for included header files
[07:01] <Semor> how to do that ?
[07:02] <ABC-XYZ> looking at the package, apparently emacs24 is the name of the binary
[07:02] <ABC-XYZ> used in the version 24 package
[07:02] <ABC-XYZ> so 'emacs' will open 23, 'emacs24' 24
[07:03] <chel__> but it's not
[07:03] <_nedr> Hello.. whenever i restart from windows and go into ubuntu... it cannot mount  my shared data partition... I have to boot again into windows, restart without logging in... for Ubuntu to be able to access the drive.. how to fix this?
[07:03] <chel__> just using emacs opens 24
[07:06] <ABC-XYZ> probably your default emacs symlink points to version 24
[07:06] <ABC-XYZ> in that case emacs23 will open version 23
[07:07] <chel__> is there a way to change it?
[07:07] <ABC-XYZ> try ls -l `which emacs`
[07:09] <ABC-XYZ> to change it, try man update-alternatives
[07:11] <Whizkid> Hey Guys!
[07:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Uh-oh -- uh, er, Hi!
[07:11] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[07:11] <Whizkid> I love ubuntu :)
[07:12] <blackboxcoder> yeah, with xfce ;)
[07:12] <Whizkid> u mean xubuntu??
[07:12] <blackboxcoder> yip ;)
[07:13] <_nedr> Hello.. whenever i restart from windows and go into ubuntu... it cannot mount  my shared data partition... I have to boot again into windows, restart without logging in... for Ubuntu to be able to access the drive.. how to fix this?
[07:13] <Whizkid> Yeah! me too. i love the plymouth/splash screen. <3
[07:13] <Whizkid> Are u using Win 8??
[07:14] <ABC-XYZ> "update-alternatives --config emacs" will do
[07:14] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: What file system type is your shared partition?
[07:15] <chel__> ABC-XYZ, awesome, ty!
[07:15] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica,  thanks for reply ... NTFS
[07:16] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: You're trying to mount your NTFS partition?
[07:16] <hrolf> Hi #ubuntu, is there any way I can prevent my files/folders from being deleted accidentally?
[07:16] <Whizkid> Back it up. :)
[07:16] <SonikkuAmerica> hrolf: Don't use Shift+Delete? ... other than that what Whizkid said.
[07:17] <hrolf> Sometimes you're supposed to be deleting just one single file and by chance you delete a folder (which may have thousands of file in it.)
[07:17] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, yes... i have set it up to automount the Data partition... when i boot from windows to ubuntu... it gets stuck at boot asking to Skip mounting or attempt Manual recovery
[07:17] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: What Windows version are you using?
[07:17] <_nedr> Windows 8
[07:18] <Whizkid> Thats the problem. Same thing here.
[07:18] <hrolf> Whizkid: The data is just too much to backup, but not important enough to buy any backup solution (another disk etc.)
[07:18] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: Did you turn off Fast Startup, Intel Smart Response Technology, and hibernation?
[07:18] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, err no i didn't no idea  what half of those things are
[07:18] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: (Being a Windows 8.1 user I can relate to the heinous process)
[07:18] <hrolf> Something like it asks your password for deletion (for a specific folder etc) ?
[07:18] <_nedr> I don't use hibernate i just shutdown and restart
[07:19] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: I'll walk you through it. First, boot into Windows if you haven't already. (Then rejoin the channel.)
[07:19] <_nedr> hrolf, save the important folders as root?
[07:19] <BentFranklin> What's a good file hosting website software package, a la the Gallery photo sharing softare, but for file hosting?
[07:19] <_nedr> BentFranklin, UbuntuOne?
[07:20] <hrolf> _nedr: Okay. I have a folder which I want to protect, now how do I make it such that no deletion/cut occurs (without asking for password) ?
[07:20] <BentFranklin> _nedr: I want the softare to run on my server.
[07:20] <hrolf> But new files may be written.
[07:20] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: Are you in Windows now?
[07:21] <Godel> Hello. I just upgraded my Ubuntu to 13.10. It freezes every time it boots up. When I restart, it sort of works, but I get a bunch of general error messages, like there was a problem, do you want to report it or not. Can anyone help me find the reason this happens?
[07:21] <Gallomimia> seriously now. this installer has been hung for 20+ minutes. how can i bypass the ubuntu One screen??
[07:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Godel: Who knows. Just make sure you run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] to make sure everything is up to date on your system. If they show up again, just hit Cancel.
[07:22] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, yeah sorry.. but my windows is messed up can't access net
[07:22] <_nedr> hrolf : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869536/linux-directory-permissions-read-write-but-not-delete
[07:22] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, if you can links to page of instructions that would be fine.. or ill google disabling Fast Startup and Intel smart response
[07:23] <Godel> ok
[07:24] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html is a good place to start. Also, in an elevated command prompt, run > powercfg -h off
[07:24] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, Is hibernation an issue when i shut down windows too?
[07:24] <pipi_> Quick question, What happens if I recompile an application from source without removing it ?
[07:25] <pipi_> wihtout removing the old application*
[07:25] <SonikkuAmerica> _nedr: If you turn off Fast Startup and Ubuntu yells at you about the drive not being ready or present, ping me again.
[07:25] <_nedr> SonikkuAmerica, ok thanks for help will do....
[07:27] <_nedr> hrolf, can you understand it?
[07:28] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes, got a gist of it. Will do the reading required.
[07:28] <hrolf> _nedr: Thanks.
[07:28] <hrolf> _nedr: I really don't know about the rights/permissions thing, so reading them too.
[07:33] <Thete> video drivers borked my ubuntu install, is there a way to boot to console mode?
[07:35] <Thete> if I can change the grub cfg to text, how do I do update-grub if I'm not booted into it?
[07:40] <_nedr> hrolf, reading your requirements again i am not sure that the solution i provided can easily help you...
[07:40] <_nedr> oh he is gone
[07:41] <_nedr> hrolf, you want a confirmation before deleting a file/folder?
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes for a specific set of folders.
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: and files.
[07:44] <_nedr> but if you do normal delete (without shift) you can recover those from the trash, right?
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: Like it asks you when you are installing something, a window pop ups and asks you your password.
[07:44] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes.
[07:44] <_nedr> so you are talking about preventing ctrl+ shift delete?
[07:45] <_nedr> sorry shitft+ delete
[07:45] <hrolf> _nedr: no preventing, just that it asks for confirmation (like password) before doing so
[07:45] <hrolf> _nedr: to prevent accidental deletes
[07:46] <_nedr> hrolf you can change the owner to root.. but this will ask you password when you try to write to the file also.. is that a problem?
[07:46] <gordonjcp> hrolf: what's the problem you're actually trying to solve?
[07:47] <hrolf> _nedr: What would happen if I'm downloading a file into that folder from Firefox (DownThemAll) ?
[07:47] <Guest10457> hello
[07:47] <hrolf> gordonjcp: Recently, some files were deleted, which I wasn't supposed to delete. I was just typing very fast.
[07:48] <_nedr> hrolf .. if you set to root that would be a problem.. it can't write to that folder unless firefox is running as root.. but you DO NOT want firefox to run as root
[07:48] <hrolf> _nedr: Exactly.
[07:48] <guest-7yE424> Hola
[07:48] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you could alias rm to rm -i
[07:48] <guest-7yE424> Im not speaking english
[07:48] <guest-7yE424> Know speak spanish?
[07:48] <hrolf> gordonjcp: It happened in nautilius, not cmd.
[07:49] <gordonjcp> !es | guest-7yE424
[07:49] <Guest10457> i have migrated from windows 8. which distro is better to use, mint or ubuntu?
[07:49] <_nedr> gordonjcp, that would only work when running rm command.. not when deleting from say nautilus would it?
[07:49] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you could set the sticky bit, but that only prevents users that aren't you from deleting them
[07:49] <gordonjcp> _nedr: yup
[07:49] <Whizkid> Ubuntu
[07:49] <gordonjcp> so aliasing rm doesn't really help
[07:50] <Whizkid> Mint is more like windows.
[07:50] <Guest10457> Ubuntu is better than windows? does it looks like windows 7 or morelike windows 8? can i use it easily?
[07:50] <gordonjcp> hrolf: the problem with asking for confirmation is that Nautilus already does this
[07:50] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you've just muscle-memoried your way past it
[07:51] <gordonjcp> hrolf: if these are text files, keep them in some sort of version control system like git ;-)
[07:51] <Whizkid> Well! everyone have there own choice.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: try it and see
[07:51] <Whizkid> but for u i will prefer mint. :)
[07:51] <hrolf> gordonjcp: They are books, pdfs.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: I've never used Windows so I can't really make a comparison
[07:51] <gordonjcp> hrolf: keep backups ;-)
[07:51] <_nedr> hrolf, then you might want to try ACL which is specified in link i posted earlier : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869536/linux-directory-permissions-read-write-but-not-delete
[07:51] <Guest10457> then i will use mint.
[07:52] <_nedr> but i am not very familiar with it
[07:52] <gordonjcp> ooooh
[07:52] <hrolf> _nedr: Yes, guess I need to read that up then.
[07:52] <gordonjcp> I know what you can do
[07:52] <Whizkid> go to linuxmint.com now. And enjoy the rollercoaster. ;)))
[07:52] <gordonjcp> hrolf: you want to download the files, then make them never change or be deleted?
[07:52] <Guest10457> from where can i download antivirus for linux? in windows 7 i have avast and avira.
[07:53] <tc_> hey I want to install GNU radio
[07:53] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: you don't need one, unless you're running a server and want to clean stuff up for Windows userrs
[07:53] <hrolf> gordonjcp: yes, deleted, changed only when you provide the password. Just like before installing/updating any software it asks for password.
[07:53] <Whizkid> U dont dont need one. Windows viruses dont work on linux. :))))
[07:53] <tc_> in mac book pro.. I dont have dvd
[07:53] <gordonjcp> tc_: good luck, GNU Radio is so horrible to install and use that I ended up writing my own SDR
[07:53] <gordonjcp> hrolf: set it immutable with chattr
[07:53] <tc_> so WAnna use my USB drive to boot it.. Need help..please me out
[07:53] <gordonjcp> hrolf: how often do you change them?
[07:53] <tc_> i have to do assignments and submit monday morning
[07:54] <Whizkid> Anti-virus companies still offer a linux version.
[07:54] <gordonjcp> tc_: depends a bit on the age of your Mac
[07:54] <gordonjcp> tc_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[07:54] <Guest10457> alright, i will use mint. then. i have never used linux, this is the first time i have been using it, because windows 8 is very confusing.
[07:55] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: you will need to ask for help in the Mint IRC channel, it cannot be supported here
[07:55] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: I recommend you use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:55] <Whizkid> Listen one thing. dont apply the rules of windows on linux.
[07:55] <hrolf> gordonjcp: Not frequently. They are like download, need rename? then do else no need to change.
[07:55] <gordonjcp> hrolf: okay, then set them immutable
[07:56] <tc_> please tell me whats the procedure to install
[07:56] <Guest10457> can i double click on a program to install it , like windows?
[07:56] <gordonjcp> tc_: I just gave you a link to full instructions
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Guest10457: use the Ubuntu Software Centre
[07:56] <cfhowlett> Guest10457, the sooner you forget the "windows" way, the easier your ubuntu life will be
[07:56] <Guest10457> i am very new to linux. i now nothing about it,
[07:56] <Whizkid> Nope! u have to use the software center.
[07:56] <tc_> it is installation of ubuntu right
[07:56] <tc_> not gnu radio
[07:57] <tc_> I want gnu radio..
[07:57] <mendax> ayy
[07:57] <gordonjcp> tc_: I thought you said you wanted to install Ubuntu, first?
[07:57] <gordonjcp> tc_: do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[07:57] <mendax> guys i have a little problem
[07:57] <tc_> no..
[07:57] <cfhowlett> !details|mendax,
[07:57] <tc_> I havent installed ubuntu
[07:57] <Guest10457> no.
[07:57] <mendax> i want to install kali on my netbook
[07:57] <gordonjcp> mendax: you'd need to ask in the Kali channel
[07:58] <gordonjcp> mendax: Kali cannot be supported here
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !kali|mendax,
[07:58] <gordonjcp> tc_: so what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:58] <mendax> omg are u the moderator or some shit
[07:58] <tc_> as my prof has given some intructions, I did like this
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !language|mendax,
[07:58] <hrolf> gordonjcp: "chattr: Operation not permitted while setting flags on ... "
[07:58] <mendax> word. lol
[07:58] <hrolf> I did chattr +i <filename>
[07:59] <tc_> first took the iso image http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/GNURadioLiveDVD/1
[07:59] <gordonjcp> hrolf: might need sudo for that
[07:59] <gordonjcp> hrolf: have you got permissions to write to that directory?
[07:59] <gordonjcp> tc_: have's not supported here
[07:59] <gordonjcp> tc_: you'd need to ask in #gnuradio or something
[07:59] <tc_> then I converted this iso image to
[07:59] <tc_> img file
[07:59] <Guest10457> anyways thanks everybody for helping.
[07:59] <cfhowlett> tc_, READ - not supported here.  ask in #gnuradio
[07:59] <mendax> Goodafternoon every i really fancy the chatrooms and the fine pupils which inhabit them----is that better Gordon>
[07:59] <Guest10457> i will try both
[08:00] <tc_> then moved it to usb flash drive and tried to boot it from there
[08:00] <tc_> u mean.. #gnuradio channek
[08:00] <tc_> channel*
[08:01] <cfhowlett> tc_, go back to the download page and look for support options. you should find a forum or irc channel there
[08:01] <hrolf> gordonjcp: Okay done. Now what to do when you need to delete or rename? -i ?
[08:01] <AussieDownUnder> What's this about cfhowlett?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> AussieDownUnder, what's what about?
[08:02] <gordonjcp> hrolf: yup
[08:03] <gordonjcp> hrolf: try it with something you don't much care about
[08:03] <AussieDownUnder> nm
[08:03] <gordonjcp> hrolf: writes will work, but not actually change the file
[08:03] <gordonjcp> hrolf: as in, the call to whatever writes will return successfully, but not actually do anything
[08:05] <tc_> can anyone gimme the channel for gnuradio?
[08:08] <Vivekananda> I have xdebug installed but how do I find the settings file for it ?
[08:09] <cfhowlett> tc_, as stated on the download page: #gnuradio
[08:09] <tc_> how to go to doanload page?
[08:09] <tc_> link please?
[08:09] <cfhowlett> tc_, same page you posted earlier.
[08:10] <cihhan> Hi all! I have two computers and their dates are not the same even though I am trying to use ntp. "ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[08:10] <cihhan> " returns "15 Feb 01:08:49 ntpdate[3594]: no server suitable for synchronization found". Any suggestions? My router's firewall is disabled, btw.
[08:10] <tc_> I went to that page
[08:10] <tc_> posted my query.. no on replied yet.. so thought.. i went to a wrong page
[08:13] <necros2> re all
[08:13] <tc_> I m not getting any reply in that gnuradio page
[08:13] <tc_> i badly need help..
[08:13] <cfhowlett> tc_, nothing we can do ... sorry
[08:13] <tc_> oh oh!
[08:14] <necros2> have a prob >
[08:14] <tc_> cfhowlett..
[08:14] <cfhowlett> !details|necros2,
[08:14] <tc_> can u gimme anyone's email who can help me
[08:14] <cfhowlett> tc_, no I cannot.  go to the download page and read.  all the information is there.
[08:15] <BentFranklin> Running vsftpd... Where does it save the uploaded files to?
[08:15] <necros2> making sudo eciadsl-config-tk , gives me no such file or directory, but ls shows me it is there
[08:16] <Thete> Any you guys installed Gnome 13.10 on 13.10?
[08:16] <Thete> 3.10 I mean
[08:16] <Thete> or 3.12
[08:16] <necros2> i`m trying to setup dlink dsl-200 b1 pppoe connection on 13.10 x32
[08:19] <Thete> get a modem with pppoe built in
[08:19] <tc_> please give me the download page link
[08:19] <tc_> i m confused totally'
[08:19] <cfhowlett> tc_, you already have the download page as you're the one who posted it originally.
[08:20] <Thete> what the
[08:20] <Thete> necros2: That thing's like a thousand years old
[08:21] <necros2> i know but no other in near proximity
[08:21] <necros2> 8-))
[08:21] <Thete> it still works?
[08:21] <tc_> is this the one ??Webchat.freenode.net
[08:30] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[08:33] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !patience|clypso,
[08:33] <clypso> ok sorry ><
[08:36] <tc_> i have another question here..
[08:36] <lucasredsn0w> tell us
[08:36] <puff> I have a pair of Logictech H800 bluetooth headphones.  They work fine with my android phone, their paired fine with my laptop running raringing, but the sound is coming out of the speakers, not the headphones.  When I run pavucontrol and select the headphones as output, I get no sound on either headphones or speaker.ss
[08:36] <cfhowlett> tc_, ubuntu questions are welcome
[08:36] <tc_> if I boot ubuntu OS via USB
[08:37] <tc_> and then can I install gnu radio in that OS??
[08:37] <tc_> with ease ?
[08:37] <cfhowlett> tc_, with ease?  no.  with persistence?  maybe
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[08:38] <lucasredsn0w> You can, but once you reboot, the changes will be lost
[08:38] <tc_> oh oh
[08:38] <lucasredsn0w> tc_: Live OS or Installed OS?
[08:38] <cfhowlett> lucasredsn0w, so *for my clarification* persistence does NOT allow adding programs to the OS?
[08:38] <tc_> live OS
[08:39] <lucasredsn0w> Then you may not do that.
[08:39] <tc_> oh
[08:39] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I'm not quite sure about what "perisistence storage" can do.
[08:39] <tc_> so only way to do is get a ISO file of GNU radio
[08:39] <lucasredsn0w> I didn't use it
[08:39] <tc_> and then convert it to img
[08:39] <cfhowlett> tc_, IMG?  are you on a mac?
[08:39] <tc_> then boot it from usb drive?
[08:40] <tc_> Yes
[08:40] <tc_> I use mac
[08:40] <cfhowlett> tc_, see - little details matter --- use virtualbox.  create box, install to it
[08:40] <tc_> wats that virtual box?
[08:40] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I prefer VMWare
[08:40] <cfhowlett> tc_, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[08:41] <tc_> oh! virtual machine
[08:41] <lucasredsn0w> tc_: Virtual Box is a virtual machine software
[08:41] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: VMware is faster on my PC
[08:41] <tc_> for Vmware we need to pay some money right?
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> And finally I replace gcc with clang+llvm as my system's default complier.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> lucasredsn0w, I've no experience with VMWare.  if you can provide guidance ...
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> tc_: Right
[08:42] <Ravi1> .
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: In most cases it's like VirtualBox
[08:42] <krishnaa>  hi.everyone i wanted to know when qemu is running a virtual machine what all functions are called in what sequence...
[08:42] <lucasredsn0w> But we have to pay some money for it
[08:43] <lucasredsn0w> Maybe a lot of money, who knows.
[08:43] <tc_> oh oh
[08:43] <lucasredsn0w> I once experienced it, but now I no longer use it
[08:43] <lucasredsn0w> Ubuntu is good enough
[08:43] <clypso> admin should i not post my question on here again?
[08:43] <tc_> anyother way to install this gnuradio
[08:44] <tc_> its kiling my time
[08:44] <cfhowlett> clypso, every 10 minutes or so seems reasonable
[08:44] <lucasredsn0w> I will google it
[08:44] <clypso> ok. im currently going thru the forums you put on here. thank you
[08:44] <cfhowlett> tc_, try virtualbox.  free
[08:44] <puff> Now this is weird... trying the non-bluetooth USb dongle with my H800.  Now I get an extra "analog output" entry in pavucontrol, but I can't figure out how to turn it on.
[08:44] <clypso> lol this thing is driving me crazy trying to figure it out ;(
[08:44] <cfhowlett> tc_, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[08:45] <puff> Ah.... got it.
[08:45] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I see, you use XChat
[08:45] <cfhowlett> lucasredsn0w, indeed
[08:45] <lucasredsn0w> Just a CTCP-VERSION
[08:46] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: I use quassel, compiled by my clang compiler
[08:47] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[08:50] <tester56> I have a usb device where hdparm suggests trim is possible: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdb1 | grep TRIM outputs:
[08:50] <tester56>           *    Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 8 blocks)
[08:50] <tester56>            *    Deterministic read data after TRIM
[08:50] <lucasredsn0w> cfhowlett: PM
[08:50] <Devil> hi
[08:51] <tester56> however fstrim does not work: fstrim: ./: FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported
[08:51] <cfhowlett> Guest99812, greetings
[08:51] <tester56> I have an ext4 parition though on that device, so it should work ...
[08:52] <tester56> So two questions: Could a usb flash device really support trim?
[08:52] <tester56> or is hdparm simply mistaken?
[08:53] <mendax> nighty night
[08:53] <mendax> ff7 in the building
[08:53] <tester56> sudo  hdparm -I /dev/sdb | grep 'Model\|TRIM' gives me: Model Number:       SanDisk SSD CZ80 32GB
[08:54] <clypso> i will try rebooting
[08:55] <simpleuser> Hi there. My left speaker is dead. Is there a way to tell (x)Ubuntu to put all sounds in the right one ? Like switching to mono instead of stereo ?
[08:55] <mendax> type in sound
[08:55] <mendax> in the ubuntu search
[08:56] <simpleuser> mendax, you mean in the doc ?
[08:57] <Red-XIII> hi guys, i've installed Ubuntu 13.10 on my Asus s56c notebook, but need some help in driver installation for nvidia gt 740M ... :S
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[08:57] <tester56> simpleuser: it is plain simple: you open your sound control, usually named sound, and move the balance to right:  http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/files/2012/04/sound-settings-ui2.png
[08:58] <Red-XIII> thnaks cfhowlett, hoping that this time i will no have black screen .... :S
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Red-XIII, think good thoughts ...
[08:58] <tester56> simpleuser: don't know about xubuntu though ... better ask in #xubuntu
[08:58] <simpleuser> ok thanks tester56 :)
[08:59] <clypso> I am having problems seeing my new wifi card come up on the top right network list. I cannot see any connections or anything for wireless at all. http://pastebin.com/9R8xLwKk
[09:00] <tester56> simpleuser: or you simply install pavucontrol: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[09:00] <clypso> rfkill list is saying hard blocked yes. soft blocked no. Not sure why hard blocked is on >< arghhh
[09:00] <cfhowlett> clypso, dual booting, yes?
[09:00] <simpleuser> tester56, I already have pavucontrol. It seems that's the one Xubuntu uses
[09:00] <tester56> simpleuser: then open and go to "output-devices" tab and there you see front left and front right
[09:00] <simpleuser> tester56, but there's no option like that
[09:01] <simpleuser> i'll take a picture and show you
[09:01] <clypso> no cfhowlett only ubuntu on here
[09:01] <tester56> simpleuser: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xibS0_Hhld4/T6-yuPSfyGI/AAAAAAAAA2M/ewzkG8cDwuo/s450/xfce-volume-control.png
[09:01] <simpleuser> tester56, yes, i've got that.
[09:01] <simpleuser> But i already tested it. It seems it doesn't change the balance
[09:02] <tester56> simpleuser: do you see "Front Left" and "Front Right"
[09:02] <simpleuser> yes
[09:02] <cfhowlett> clypso, on my Dell, F2 is the hardware switch - in windows.  F2 will kill wifi under ubuntu.  F2 again should turn it on again but (discovered by accident after 5 years of rebooting/resetting) ALT F2 will do the job.
[09:02] <simpleuser> tester56, but wheni put to 0 the left one, it doesn't change anything
[09:02] <simpleuser> it doesn't change the balance
[09:02] <tester56> simpleuser: try to change the Port
[09:03] <clypso> well this is a sony laptop. I installed this dell wireless card on here because my sony wireless card was dieing out
[09:03] <tester56> simpleuser: maybe you are changing the hdmi port, but are not using hdmi
[09:03] <cfhowlett> clypso, so what IS your hardware switch?
[09:03] <simpleuser> tester56, no, you don't understand :). It works, but not as we want
[09:03] <mmf> I'm having trouble logging in ubuntuforums.org
[09:03] <clypso> its a physical switch on the front
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !forums|mmf,
[09:03] <simpleuser> tester56, it's just it doesn't change the balance
[09:03] <mmf> I registered an account in ubuntu-one
[09:03] <cfhowlett> mmf, wrong channel
[09:04] <simpleuser> tester56, when my left speaker was not dead yet, i tried this option
[09:04] <mmf> What's the correct channel cfhowlett?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> mmf, goto #ubuntuforums
[09:04] <mmf> oh, ok, thanks
[09:04] <tester56> simpleuser: and it worked?
[09:04] <simpleuser> tester56, and it doesn't affect the balance. If you put left speaker to 0, it doesn't change anything for the right one. It just shuts down the left one
[09:04] <clypso> And before i have never had problems with the switch. It has worked like a charm
[09:04] <simpleuser> and you don't hear the sounds that are coming to the left one
[09:05] <simpleuser> it doesnt't change the balance, so it doesn't put it on mono. It stays in stereo, it's just you don't hear the left sounds
[09:05] <tester56> simpleuser: oh okay, simply forgot about that
[09:05] <simpleuser> yeah, no prob
[09:08] <clypso> @CFhowlett - It has a switch on the bottom right of laptop. For on and off. Its on "on". I have tried rebooting and playing with switch as well. I am currently using model laptop PCG-7113L
[09:09] <FeriKe> Hi, can you recommend a good book or a godd webpage where i can find all the linux commands and how to use them?
[09:09] <nishee> unlock the file
[09:09] <cfhowlett> clypso, try switch combinations: ctrl + switch, alt + switch
[09:09] <cfhowlett> clypso, possibly even super/windows key + switch
[09:10] <tester56> simpleuser: in ubuntu it is easy, do not know about xfce, sry
[09:10] <tester56> simpleuser: i have to go off now, sry
[09:10] <clypso> @CFhowlett - heh i love u for this. I did control switch. And now "rfkill list" shows hard blocked off. And my switch actually lit up. Thats never happened before haha. Yet no wifi signal
[09:11] <nishee> anyone knows how to unlock files
[09:11] <cfhowlett> clypso, one step closer
[09:11] <clypso> yet it says wireless disconnected
[09:11] <clypso> not switch :D. Yay
[09:11] <clypso> haha cfhowlett you need a metal or something for ubuntu pro of the year
[09:11] <cfhowlett> clypso, disable the hardwire/ethernet connection and see if the wifi will connect
[09:12] <clypso> ok i will get disconnected brb
[09:12] <cfhowlett> nishee, "lock"?
[09:12] <nishee> yes
[09:12] <cfhowlett> nishee, password lock?  encryption?
[09:12] <nishee> not password lock
[09:13] <nishee> actuaaly i hav recovered the files from my old hard disk
[09:13] <nishee> n know they cant be deleted
[09:13] <cfhowlett> nishee, how were they "locked"?
[09:16] <justaguy> Is it really needed to install those drivers for my GPU @ my laptop
[09:16] <cfhowlett> justaguy, gpu support out of the box varies widely.  some OEM's have decent support.  most don't.  depends what your needs are.
[09:17] <clypso_> Hey ok . No go. Nothing is coming up on wireless network. I did a reboot. Wireless networks is enabled. But showing wireless disconnected because im not connected to any wifi signals. Its not showing any wifi singals either
[09:17] <nishee> cfhowlett did u get what i said?
[09:17] <justaguy> clypso_: Which brand of wifi connector do you have
[09:18] <clypso_> my connector? MY wireless card?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> nishee, I asked you how they were "locked"?
[09:18] <clypso_> I am not sure what you mean @Justaguy
[09:18] <justaguy> clypso_: do lscpi and see which one you have
[09:18] <nishee> i have recovered them from my old hard disk n they were locked while recovering
[09:19] <cfhowlett> nishee, your old system was ubuntu?
[09:19] <justaguy> like i have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6936111/
[09:19] <nishee> they can be accessed but not deletes
[09:19] <clypso_> Command not found @justaguy
[09:19] <justaguy> clypso_: run it and paste the output in here please
[09:19] <justaguy> clypso_: woops, it's lspci
[09:20] <nishee> i m using 12.10 ...today is the  4th day
[09:20] <cfhowlett> nishee, the HDD you're recovering from - was it ubuntu?
[09:20] <nishee> no it was  windows 7
[09:20] <clypso_> http://pastebin.com/i75H1seG
[09:21] <niko__> yeah! got it! Black screen! :D
[09:21] <cfhowlett> nishee, permissions issue.  I take it you're going to format the drive?
[09:21] <res> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 13.10 and I have problem with my wifi. I can connect to the wireless router but i cannot ping the default gateway or connect to any websites. The router is working since others can connect to it without any troubles and I can also use it form my cellphone
[09:22] <justaguy> clypso_: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:22] <justaguy> that will install the stuff needed for 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[09:22] <Red-XIII> cfhowlett, i've to unistall all... :S i'm scared to say that was bad ... :(
[09:22] <justaguy> I had the same problem too when installing ubuntu ages ago :p
[09:24] <clypso_> @Justaguy Installed successfully . What now? Reboot computer?
[09:24] <clypso_> My wireless connection at top right also disappeared after this installation
[09:25] <justaguy> clypso_: well , my laptop has a LED that says "now you have wifi on!" and that turned on after i installed
[09:25] <justaguy> clypso_: so no idea what happend @ you
[09:26] <nisheee> yes permissions issue
[09:26] <clypso_> justaguy right before i did this installation it was at least showing my wifi. Now its not. Let me reboot computer. Maybe wrong driver ?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> nisheee, format the drive.  problem fixed
[09:26] <clypso_> i will be right back
[09:27] <nisheee> no i want filter the files
[09:27] <res> anybody? my ifconfic and route -n out is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6936144/
[09:27] <res> ifconfig*
[09:27] <cfhowlett> nisheee, changing permissions should be possible as the system administrator
[09:29] <nisheee> it sys that u r not the owner so you cant delete files
[09:29] <Red-XIII> maybe i got to reconfigure x-server?
[09:30] <clypso> Woot! Thank you. After reboot of computer. It works perfectly
[09:30] <clypso> :)
[09:30] <clypso> *Gives a metal to you*
[09:31] <cfhowlett> nisheee, I said COPY the files and format the HDD
[09:31] <clypso> Who was it that helped me again ?
[09:31] <cfhowlett> clypso, looks like justaguy
[09:31] <nisheee> oh thankyou got it
[09:31] <clypso> Ok thank you cfhowlett for the beginning help. And thank you justaguy for finishing it off. Thank you =D
[09:32] <cfhowlett> clypso, glad to help out.  enjoy your *buntu
[09:32] <cfhowlett> !cookie|justaguy,
[09:32] <Gaurav_> Hello
[09:32] <clypso> yeah alot better then shity windows
[09:32] <nisheee> thankyou cfhowlett
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, greetings
[09:32] <cfhowlett> nisheee, have fun, be safe
[09:32] <Gaurav_> Is there any students program in Ubuntu ?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, not sure what you mean ...
[09:34] <Gaurav_> cfhowlett I am asking Is there any students program , where students across the world can involve in Ubuntu
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !contribute|Gaurav_,
[09:35] <Gaurav_> +1 @ubottu
[09:41] <joel135> Hello! My old computer crashed and I need to copy 60 GB of data from an old PATA hard drive. Is there a risk that the hard drive will break if I copy everything at once? I have measured the speed and it seems that it will take roughly an hour. The hard drive lies in a rack from the old computer. There is no active cooling.
[09:42] <bekks> joel135: Just copy the data, you dont have any other chance.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> joel135, yep.  copy soon as possible.
[09:43] <joel135> thanks
[09:48] <mmf> Ubuntuforums irc seems to be dead
[09:48] <mmf> Do you guys know any e-mail address to get in contact with ubuntuforums.org?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> mmf, contact/support details will be listed on the forum page
[09:49] <mmf> There aren't any cfhowlett
[09:50] <bekks> mmf: whats the actual issue behind that?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> mmf, read more: forums>forum community
[09:50] <mmf> bekks, I'm trying to log in ubuntuforums.org
[09:50] <mmf> I created an ubuntu one account, but when logging in ubuntuforums, it says "invalid email address"
[09:52] <bekks> mmf: so did you enter a valid email address?
[09:52] <mmf> What do you mean cfhowlett ?
[09:52] <mmf> Well, I would say yes
[09:52] <mmf> it's the same as the one in SSO
[09:52] <cfhowlett> mmf, moderator names and addresses are there
[09:52] <bekks> mmf: Well, I would say you didnt :)
[09:53] <mmf> but I did, unless, for some reason, they're rejecting my email address
[09:53] <mmf> cfhowlett: you mean, the moderators name at the end of the page?
[09:54] <mmf> if so, I can't contact them, as I don't have a forum account
[09:54] <cfhowlett> mmf, EMAIL!
[09:54] <mmf> I can't find any email address
[09:55] <sweb> is this problem for firewall or not http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4297122
[09:55] <sweb> my bind response from 127.0.0.1 but not response from 4.2.2.4 .... is this for firewall ?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> mmf, choose one person.  look at "about me".  search for their wiki page and you'll find an email address - probably on their ubuntu membership wiki
[09:58] <cfhowlett> mmf, for example  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Caboose885
[10:04] <gino_> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[10:04] <cfhowlett> gino_, ???? this ain't your terminal ...
[10:05] <Wug> lol
[10:06] <Bardamu> Hi
[10:06] <Bardamu> I have a lenovo yoga 2 pro but I can't boot to my liveusb
[10:06] <Bardamu> nothing happens
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !uefi|Bardamu,
[10:08] <Bardamu> I already disabled fast startup
[10:08] <gino_> cd $ home/ load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:09] <cfhowlett> gino_, STOP!
[10:09] <cfhowlett> gino_, this is chat - not terminal.  check your frequency
[10:10] <Wug> judging by that thing, I don't think he has any idea what he's doing
[10:14] <jgrep> i have a package versioned as           1:1.584
[10:14] <jgrep> but when i try to install a 2.101 package it says "packages will be DOWNGRADED:"
[10:14] <jgrep> any idea what the issue
[10:14] <jgrep> also what is 1:1.584 .. ":" ??
[10:18] <WhoD> can anyone recremmend a good dreamweaver alternative?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> WhoD, kompozer, geany, bluegriffon leap to mind
[10:19] <cfhowlett> WhoD, see www.linuxalt.com for others
[10:20] <WhoD> cheers cfhowlett
[10:20] <cfhowlett> http://www.onextrapixel.com/2013/06/18/10-best-alternatives-to-adobe-dreamweaver/
[10:35] <gino_> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[10:36] <max_> sconnect
[10:38] <belgianguy> is there a setting to enable bleeding-edge updates in Ubuntu?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, the proposed repositories
[10:40] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: ah, that's in Synaptic, right?
[10:40] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, settings - software sources IIRC
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  if you want something beyond the repos, you need a ppa or so, but that's not supported here, you'd be on your own if something goes wrong
[10:41] <gino_> cd $HOME/load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:41] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: I take full responsibility
[10:41] <belgianguy> cruising in a 3.13 with fglrx beta, so yeah, I too like to live dangerously ;)
[10:42] <Wug> gino_: this still isn't a terminal
[10:42] <belgianguy> it hit me when I saw my GIMP was still 2.7
[10:42] <belgianguy> and there's apparently a 2.10 beta available
[10:43] <belgianguy> and I love new stuff more than stability anyway :p
[10:43] <belgianguy> (I'm setting myself up for a world of hurt, I know)
[10:44] <belgianguy> but after residing in root shell for the better half of a day, and getting compiz back up and behaving, I'm feeling rather triumphant
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  then your gimp is even more recent than mine
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> (12.04)
[10:45] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, 2.6.12 here on ubuntustudio LTS
[10:46] <justaguy> fail2ban <3 , who else has it?
[10:46] <belgianguy> justaguy: I do
[10:46] <bekks> justaguy: does that matter?
[10:46] <belgianguy> on my CentOS server
[10:47] <justaguy> bekks: it's a program, that monitors your /var/log/auth.log, so if someone is attacking your ssh , they end up getting blocked
[10:48] <belgianguy> it adds people to the firewall for a set amount of time
[10:49] <belgianguy> eg after x failed attempts at SSH,
[10:49] <justaguy> exactly
[10:49] <bekks> justaguy: I know what it is for years - but how does it matter if someone in here uses it or not?
[10:49] <belgianguy> but I'm sure bekks knew what it is :)
[10:49] <bekks> justaguy: ;)
[10:50] <justaguy> bekks: ow, i was just wondering :p
[10:50] <belgianguy> justaguy: SELinux was a different story
[10:50] <belgianguy> much hair pulling
[10:50]  * justaguy has no idea what that is
[10:50] <belgianguy> and much digging through the audit logs
[10:51] <belgianguy> it adds extra policies to Linux
[10:51] <justaguy> For very paranoid people
[10:51] <belgianguy> so certain apps can only do certain actions
[10:51] <necros2> returning to my q - making sudo eciadsl-config-tk , gives me no such file or directory, but ls shows me it is there (i`m trying to setup dsl modem connection on 13.10)
[10:51] <belgianguy> justaguy: or people who like secure servers :)
[10:51] <justaguy> belgianguy: yep
[10:51] <necros2> what i made wrong?
[10:52] <belgianguy> eg if someone would try to get a shell, they wouldn't be able to get around so easily
[10:52] <justaguy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6936491/
[10:52] <justaguy> That's nice @ fail2ban :p
[10:55] <belgianguy> my machine mails me if someone gets blocked
[10:55] <belgianguy> oddly satisfying to see pop up
[10:55] <belgianguy> mostly SSH nowadays, but they used to attack SASL as well
[10:55] <belgianguy> now I don't know if they gave up or if they got in :/
[10:56] <belgianguy> (it's both a web and mail server)
[10:56] <Wug> chances are they gave up
[10:56] <Wug> i mean, as long as your password's longer than like 6 characters
[10:56] <Wug> doesnt sound like they were trying for that long
[10:56] <belgianguy> Wug: it's extremely long, complicated, I _am_ paranoid about my server :)
[10:57] <belgianguy> it's my first VPS, so I'm sure I do have stuff to learn
[10:57] <Wug> I use 30 and 40 character passwords, random mixed case alpha numeric symbolic
[10:57] <Wug> they are hard to remember.
[10:57] <Wug> :(
[10:58] <belgianguy> Wug: mine's 28 chars long, all mixed (alphanum + symbols) and up and lowercase
[10:58] <tunage> Wug use a brain wallet hash
[10:58] <belgianguy> I can't remember it, have KeePass for that
[10:58] <Maximvm> hello there
[10:58] <Wug> I have thought about storing hints and hashes so I could remember them
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Maximvm, greetings
[10:59] <belgianguy> Wug: KeePass allows you to store passwords safely
[10:59] <starnix> Hello Everyone
[10:59] <belgianguy> hi :)
[10:59] <Wug> first+last digit and hash would be good probably
[10:59] <Wug> I won't use keepass
[10:59] <Wug> I didn't write it.
[10:59] <Maximvm> do you know some ubuntu software to study and test electric engineering?
[11:00] <Wug> even I don't know some of my longer passwords.  I remember them by muscle memory and can't spell them or type them without a qwerty keyboard
[11:00] <dakotawulfy> have you used the software center
[11:00] <cfhowlett> Maximvm, ^^^^ this
[11:00] <dakotawulfy>  has a section on that
[11:00] <cfhowlett> starnix, greetings
[11:01] <Maximvm> thx a lot
[11:01] <Wug> watching me try to type the password for my bouncer on my phone is hilarious
[11:01] <belgianguy> you have a bouncer?
[11:01] <Maximvm> i wonder if there is a irc channel too where i can find some help during the study
[11:01] <Wug> it's even more hilarious when 500 lines of scrollback in 80 channels crashes my phone's irc client
[11:01] <Wug> of course I have a bouncer
[11:02] <belgianguy> Wug: I don't think I know what bouncer means
[11:02] <belgianguy> or at least not what I thought it meant
[11:02] <Wug> google znc (or join #znc)
[11:02] <dakotawulfy>  Maximvm on circuits ??
[11:05] <belgianguy> Wug: so an IRC proxy, right?
[11:05] <Wug> it's only a proxy by really vague definitions
[11:06] <Wug> its almost more of a standalone client that just happens to let clients connect to it
[11:08] <MrElendig> znc is a bouncer, not a proxy, there are some subtle differences there
[11:08] <MrElendig> it acts as a irc clint and will keep the session open
[11:09] <Wug> it's transparent (sort of anyway) both to the client and the server, but also stateful
[11:10] <Wug> it hides the one-to-many relationship of multiple clients from the server (or the one-to-zero of no clients)
[11:10] <AussieDownUnder> What channel would be the best place to talk about creating custom stripped down ubuntu live usb images. I want to make a legal tech tool with a bootable o/s of ubuntu on it so that I have an alternative to hirens boot cd.
[11:10] <Wug> AussieDownUnder: here is probably ok
[11:11] <MertenNor> hi
[11:11] <AussieDownUnder> wug, Alright sweet.
[11:11] <Wug> I've done something like that before. I don't remember the procedure, but google is very informative and has lots of tutorials
[11:11] <Wug> I suggest finding a tutorial that's reasonably up to date, and following it as closely as possible, and asking if you run into trouble
[11:11] <MrElendig> AussieDownUnder: protip: use gummiboot/grub or similar for the bootloader, make it into a hybrid image that will work both on a cd and on a usb (and both on uefi and legacy)
[11:11] <AussieDownUnder> So far I'm pretty content on having wine in the image & portable apps installed as well.
[11:12] <AussieDownUnder> MrElendig, I'll record that info somewhere if I can.
[11:14] <MrElendig> AussieDownUnder: the "ubuntu" way of burning image to cd, booting the image, then making a new image using unetbootin then putting that on a usb stick is just *double facepalm*
[11:15] <AussieDownUnder> mrelendig, I had this ubuntu customisation thing for making custom boot cd's
[11:16] <AussieDownUnder> mrelendig, Ubuntu customization kit it is called, not sure how good it is but I'm pretty sure it let you use an iso from your hard drive of the ubuntu version you wanted rather than having it on a cd.
[11:16] <MertenNor> I just installed Ubunto Server ubuntu 12.04.4 server Iand I get this when it boots up: http://i.imgur.com/p4IjLaj.jpg?1
[11:17] <MrElendig> AussieDownUnder: iirc it creates a cd only image by default
[11:17] <MrElendig> though that might have changed, been a while since I looked at it
[11:17] <MrElendig> MertenNor: I suggest installing a more up to date version
[11:18] <AussieDownUnder> mrelendig, okay.
[11:18] <Matriks404> MrElending: 12.04.4 is up to date, it uses 13.10 kernel and x, so it shouldn't be difference in booting
[11:18] <kouakou> i want to join french channel
[11:18] <MertenNor> MrElendig em do you have a link ? I thught that was the latest one..
[11:18] <Matriks404> !fr
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !server|MertenNor,
[11:20] <MertenNor> ok
[11:21] <gnuts> anyone need help?
[11:24] <kgalahassa> Hi i need to lock access to a website on my ubuntu 12.10 how can I do it?
[11:25] <MrElendig> kgalahassa: the naive way is to dns block it
[11:25] <MrElendig> kgalahassa: the correct way is to DPI
[11:26] <MrElendig> semi-naive way is to set up a iptables rule
[11:26] <kgalahassa> MrElendig, I'am just a novice, can you guide me with some commands?
[11:26] <MrElendig> echo "somedomain.com 127.0.0.1" >> /etc/hosts   for the naive way
[11:27] <MrElendig> er.. other way around
[11:27] <MrElendig> 127.0.0.1 somedomain.com
[11:27] <MrElendig> but then they can just enter the ip instead of the hostname and get around it that way
[11:28] <MrElendig> blocking using iptables is somewhat more reliable, since then you would block access to the IP instead, but ofcourse that can be circumvented by using a proxy/vpn
[11:29] <AussieDownUnder> I need the dalek channel for ubuntu
[11:29] <cfhowlett> daleks don't get a channel
[11:30] <MrElendig> EXTERMINATE!
[11:31] <AussieDownUnder> This is discrimination
[11:31] <AussieDownUnder> We will travel back in time & prevent all irc from even existing.
[11:31] <Matriks404> what is that program called which displays some stuff in terminal when started up, like kernel, distro name etc ??
[11:31] <Wug> uname?
[11:32] <Matriks404> um no, more like big distro logo, and stuff on the right side
[11:32] <Hebbel> Hey there. quick question. whats the best partition type for a hard drive under linux t keep large files ?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> Hebbel, "large"???  anyway, the default is ext4
[11:33] <Hebbel> cfhowlett: 45 gb files
[11:33] <Matriks404> Wug: like here http://i.imgur.com/cl4jzni.jpg
[11:33] <Wug> ext4 will handle those fine
[11:33] <cfhowlett> Hebbel, a single file of 45G size?!  time to filter your collection!
[11:33] <Wug> but, you may have issues copying them to NTFS partitions from linux (ntfs drivers perform very poorly)
[11:34] <Matriks404> ah nope im probably idiot
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Hebbel  what happens if you use the default ext4 ?
[11:34] <Hebbel> Wug: i don't use ntfs so its no iddue
[11:34] <Hebbel> issue*
[11:34] <Hebbel> Im just trying to avoid formatting twice
[11:37] <Matriks404> if i copy binary file to /usr/bin it will be normally working?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Matriks404, that is not the way files are installed -
[11:38] <Matriks404> cfhowlett: i have just downloaded screenfetch because it doesnt appear in repos and its only 1 binary file
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !binary|Matriks404,
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Matriks404  there's also dependencies
[11:40] <Matriks404> MonkeyDust: I downloaded binary file and it's working but i must run it from folder in home dir, and i want it to run without going to path
[11:41] <Matriks404> nvm i tried it and its working
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Matriks404  then put it in /usr/bin and try to execute it from another dir
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> ok
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Matriks404, the download page specifies you can save it anywhere.
[11:42] <RayWizard|2> how to add button, to notify-send? i see transmission does that
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard|2  i guess you want zenity
[11:47] <MrElendig> RayWizard|2: having a button in a notification popup is a really bad design
[11:48] <RayWizard|2> in transmission this button allows me to quickly open relewant download
[11:48] <RayWizard|2> in my application i want to be able to see some info i i desire so
[11:48] <RayWizard|2> but i want it to be popup so it dosent bother me
[11:52]  * MrElendig suggests a tray icon
[11:57] <RayWizard|2> is there command line command that can create tray icon?
[11:58] <Matriks404> nothing interesting in /var/log :(
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard|2  there's alltray, not sure if you can use it in a script
[12:02] <Matriks404> why grep is blocked to search in logs, wtf
[12:02] <bekks> Matriks404: That sentence doesnt make any sense, sorry. Which problem do you experience using grep?
[12:02] <Matriks404> I am using grep to scan /var/log/* and it produces error permission denied
[12:03] <Matriks404> search*
[12:03] <bekks> Matriks404: Then you dont have permission to do so, which isnt a grep problem - but a problem of insufficient privileges.
[12:03] <Matriks404> but i can open files in this directory
[12:04] <bekks> But not all :)
[12:04] <Matriks404> for example i can open file dpkg.log but i cant use grep to search in it
[12:04] <bekks> Why not?
[12:04] <bekks> And how do you "open" it?
[12:04] <Matriks404> by double clicking on it in file manager
[12:05] <bekks> Matriks404: Then look at the permissions of that file: ls -lha dpkg.log
[12:06] <Matriks404> ah seems that i can use grep "text" /path/to/file, but not grep "text" | /path/to/file. can anyone explain this?
[12:06] <bekks> Matriks404: The second one is an invalid syntax example.
[12:06] <bekks> Thats why it doesnt work.
[12:07] <Matriks404> bekks: i am pretty sure i saw it somewhere :P
[12:07] <bekks> Matriks404: As an exmaple on how to not do it.
[12:07] <Matriks404> bekks: ok, thanks anyway
[12:08] <rushboy> any idea on how how to install jetty 8 on ubuntu 12.04
[12:08] <rushboy> ?
[12:08] <rushboy> any help is appreciated
[12:08] <p3rror> hello
[12:08] <p3rror> please I need to launch a X application remotely
[12:09] <bekks> p3rror: ssh -CX remoteserver
[12:09] <p3rror> bekks, ok
[12:09] <p3rror> I dont need to run display
[12:10] <Matriks404> wtf is this and why it is so many times in kernel logs: /var/log/kern.log.1:Feb  8 20:22:23 marcin-COMPAQ-MINI kernel: [ 2230.006102] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station : Wrong Mac address
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> !wtf | Matriks404
[12:12] <Wug> MonkeyDust: does anyone else find it extremely, deliciously ironic that you just yelled at him for saying "wtf" by calling a factoid called "wtf"
[12:13] <Wug> who named that
[12:13] <charl> besides, it's not like wtf is that uncommon on irc channels
[12:13] <charl> or online in general, it's not like full out foul language
[12:14] <humbag> also wtf is part of package bsdgames
[12:14] <cfhowlett> nonetheless: family friendly channel, follow the rules or seek support elsewhere.  please and thank you.
[12:14] <Wug> I'm pretty sure most people find out about the word wtf when they're like 13
[12:14] <Wug> humbag: help, my wtf is broken
[12:14] <bekks> Wug: Yeah, but thats no reason for using it when talking with other people.
[12:14] <Matriks404> ah just buggy broadcom driver
[12:14] <Tom1> which is the best windows antivirus scanner for ubuntu?
[12:14] <bekks> Matriks404: Looks like a buggy wifi AP.
[12:15] <Matriks404> bekks: what is AP?
[12:15] <alumnoeps> Hello
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !best|Tom1, wait, what?
[12:15] <bekks> Matriks404: access point.
[12:15] <cfhowlett> alumnoeps, greetings
[12:15] <Tom1> cfhowlett:which is the best windows antivirus scanner for ubuntu?
[12:15] <Matriks404> bekks: maybe
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Tom1, there is no "best" ...
[12:15] <alumnoeps> lst
[12:15] <alumnoeps> list
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !antivirus
[12:15] <alumnoeps> \list
[12:15] <bekks> !list | alumnoeps
[12:16] <alumnoeps> \quit
[12:18] <justaguy> lol
[12:23] <Matriks404> should wifi connection be labeled eth2?
[12:24] <Guest3131> salut
[12:26] <Tom1> what is clamav?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Guest3131, greetings
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !clamav|Tom1,
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !info clamav
[12:28] <schoppenhauer> hello. (where) can I get Ubuntu 14.04? I know it is not released yet, but I want to test it. And I cannot find it on the Website. Are there CDs already?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !trusty|schoppenhauer,
[12:29] <omg_scout> Matriks404: I would say should not, but I have seen it few times.
[12:29] <Matriks404> and i searched on internet and it looks like Ubuntu is using wrong driver
[12:29] <Tom1> can we use clamav in ubuntu to scan windows partitions?
[12:29] <linXea> schoppenhauer, you can easily upgrade to it from 13.10
[12:29] <bekks> Tom1: Yes.
[12:30] <Tom1> bekks: will it detect latest  windows viruses?
[12:30] <bekks> Tom1: Possibly. This question cannot be answered for any AV solution, as you know.
[12:31] <Tom1> bekks: would it detect both windows and linux viruses?
[12:32] <bekks> Tom1: If you actually manage to get a linux virus - maybe. There are no linux viruses in the wild, until yet.
[12:32] <schoppenhauer> linXea: I would like to test the installers.
[12:33] <Tom1> bekks:  how big is the clamav software? 50 mb or a lot bigger?
[12:33] <yeats> package size 124 kB, installed size 564 kB
[12:34] <yash> hey guys, i wanna set steam as startup application. HOW??
[12:34] <Tom1> its only 124 ? how would it detect so many windows viruses?
[12:34] <interweb> How do I can install lib32asound2
[12:34] <Matriks404> yash: in startup applications
[12:35] <Matriks404> yash: if you're using unity i belive you can search program in dash
[12:35] <schoppenhauer> the installers are my main interest currently.
[12:35] <yeats> Tom1: it pulls down virus definitions after it's installed - I have no idea how big that file is.  I would suggest trying it out.
[12:36] <yash> heres the thing, steam (somewhat) boosts my pc speed
[12:36] <yash> i dont want to open it each time
[12:36] <schoppenhauer> ok, duckduckgo found http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[12:36] <yash> i want to be on the toolbar always (like ubuntu one)
[12:37] <omg_scout> yash: how can that be? It is pretty resource demanding.
[12:38] <LeMike> damn it. i wanted to write a script that reads the history but when i do `history` within the script it just shows nothing. `id` shows me that we both run as root...
[12:38] <yash069> yash: maybe it was/is coincidence :/
[12:38] <interweb> Could anyone help?
[12:38] <LeMike> how can I read the history in a bash script?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !info lib32asound2
[12:38] <yash> ok which yash are we talkin about?
[12:39] <yash069> interweb: apt-cache lib32asound2
[12:39] <interweb> Invalid operation lib32asound2
[12:39] <yash> is it impossible to open steam automatically on startup?
[12:40] <kouakou> how we use fast-track
[12:40] <cfhowlett> interweb, what is your ubuntu version?
[12:40] <interweb> cfhowlett, 13.10
[12:40] <yash069> interweb: theres a libasound2 package
[12:40] <yash069> there no lib32asound2
[12:40] <cfhowlett> interweb, not in saucy
[12:41] <cfhowlett> interweb, double check the file name and that you need THAT file
[12:41] <yash069> interweb: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libasound2
[12:42] <interweb2> I wanted to install TeamViewer and it got me that error
[12:42] <interweb2> that I don't have that file
[12:43] <interweb2> Hello
[12:43] <schoppenhauer> is there a CD for the alternate installer, too? I just find server and desktop for 14.04
[12:43] <yash069> interweb: sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386 is what u searching for
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !alternate
[12:44] <yash069> and then install that shitty teamviewer :|
[12:44]  * yeats misses the alternate installer
[12:44] <bekks> There is a server installer.
[12:45] <bekks> Which is basically the same.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !mini|schoppenhauer,
[12:46] <schoppenhauer> cfhowlett: and where do I get minimal CDs for 14.04?
[12:46] <interweb2> yash069, There were not that package you said
[12:46] <yeats> bekks: yeah - I know ;-) I just liked being able to suggest it to people as a solution to problems due to the graphical installer
[12:46] <cfhowlett> schoppenhauer, daily images
[12:46] <bekks> yeats: Then suggest the server installer.
[12:47] <yeats> bekks: ok gotcha
[12:47] <yeats> interweb2: install the 32-bit version of TeamViewer and you won't have that issue
[12:47] <schoppenhauer> can I use the server installer to set up a desktop system, or is there any "low-level"-stuff different on ubuntu server vs desktop?
[12:48] <schoppenhauer> that is, if I install the desktop-packages, etc.
[12:48] <cfhowlett> schoppenhauer, you can install the desktop packages on server
[12:48] <yeats> schoppenhauer: yes you can, just select your preferred desktop during the software selection section
[12:48] <schoppenhauer> ok thx.
[12:49] <schoppenhauer> so the server installer is just a better installer without all the graphical mess.
[12:49] <yeats> schoppenhauer: it's the debian installer, modified for ubuntu
[12:49] <cfhowlett> schoppenhauer, "better"?  says who?
[12:51] <schoppenhauer> cfhowlett: I like the debian installer. so ... I say it.
[12:51] <schoppenhauer> but of course, thats arguable.
[12:51] <cfhowlett> schoppenhauer, okay then.  works for you, and that's great.  :)
[12:51] <schoppenhauer> well, lets hope.
[13:13] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:13] <justaguy> hi
[13:13] <ShapeShifter499> is it possible to tell my system to output more amps on a usb port?
[13:14] <ShapeShifter499> I could really use 5v at 2amps for charging one of my devices
[13:15] <Ben9898> Just installed a hd7770 in my machine then booted into ubuntu and it started to lag a bit the mouse pointer would move but a image of it would stay behind in the place it was in and most of the visual effects lagged and were juttery
[13:15] <Ben9898> Any fixes?
[13:16] <belgianguy> Shapeshifter: I doubt it, there's a good reason why amps are that low on USB ports :)
[13:17] <belgianguy> outlet charger (some of those have USB ports as well) might give more though
[13:20] <ShapeShifter499> belgianguy, I have a pogoplug (it's like a raspberry pi) and I wanted to keep it powered during power outages long enough to have it properly shut down. To do this I would need to use a battery or since I already have a netbook also acting as a server, plug into that. Sadly it is just short of the 2amps my pogo would need to stay powered
[13:22] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Then you need a small UPS.
[13:23] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, I only need something for 5v at 2-3amps of power
[13:23] <ShapeShifter499> all of my devices either already have a battery or are not critical during a power outage
[13:23] <ShapeShifter499> just that pogoplug
[13:23] <ShapeShifter499> :/
[13:27] <newuser> how to setup "Wipro-Seiko Epson LQ1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer" in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[13:27] <Deep> Hi, i need some help with c++ . can you help me ?
[13:28] <Deep> Hi, i need some help with c++ . can you help me ?
[13:28] <humbag> ShapeShifter499: as far as understand, usb is only required to provide 100mA, the device may request more current from the port via USB, but the response is limited by hardware
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> Deep: try a c channel
[13:29] <hitsujiTMO> Deep: ##c++
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> humbag: usb1 is 100mA, usb2 is 500mA
[13:33] <ShapeShifter499> humbag, oh
[13:33] <ShapeShifter499> alright I'll get that flipping ups
[13:33] <ShapeShifter499> next month
[13:34] <humbag> oh thanks hitsujiTMO , I forget how old all my kit is,
[13:34] <newuser> how to setup "Wipro-Seiko Epson LQ1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer" in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[13:34] <alumnoeps> jajaja
[13:35] <alumnoeps> Thats difficult
[13:35] <alumnoeps> I had some troubles with mine
[13:35] <hitsujiTMO> alumnoeps: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:35] <newuser> alumnoeps: are you talking to me ?
[13:35] <RayWizard|2> is there a way to somehow make a directory point to a directory on other drive?
[13:37] <RayWizard|2> how to make files in /home/qq/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix physicaly be in /media/qq/Elements ?
[13:37] <LeMike> what? is it legit to do a `vi /etc/crontab` ? isn't it crontab -e ?
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> RayWizard|2: soft link it: ln -s /media/qq/Elements /home/qq/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix
[13:38] <MarkDavies> Hi
[13:38] <MarkDavies> /usr/bin/sudo apt-get-install sysstat gives me the information that some packages couldn't be verified. What's going on?
[13:38] <alumnoeps> Hi
[13:38] <MarkDavies> I'm using the official Ubuntu repository
[13:38] <alumnoeps> What?
[13:38] <MarkDavies> what I wrote
[13:38] <alumnoeps> There is no official repo
[13:39] <alumnoeps> If there is, please give me a link
[13:39] <alumnoeps> .)
[13:39] <alumnoeps> :)
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: if you mess up with a crontab then you can break your system. thats why you use crontab -e. it sanitises your changes in case you made a mistake
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> alumnoeps: enough of your trolling
[13:39] <MarkDavies> Ubuntu doesn't have the official repository? How would it be possible
[13:39] <MarkDavies> But please, can somebody tell me why I am given that information?
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavies: hes a troll
[13:40] <DJones> MarkDavies: Ignore the troll, it is in the repo's
[13:40] <alumnoeps> I'm just trying IRC, because I have to implement a server in C
[13:40] <LeMike> thanks hitsujiTMO . someone used it on our system -.- just wanted to know so I can slap him with a large trout
[13:41] <alumnoeps> Sorry for those little trolls
[13:41] <MarkDavies> hitsujiTMO DJones: OK, but why can't these packages be verified? I think it shouldn't happen
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: as long as he doesn't make a mistake then it will work, its just bad practice to modify it directly
[13:41] <LeMike> jep. that's what I'm about to say him ;) thanks
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavies: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update
[13:42] <DJones> MarkDavies: It could be a problem with server that those repo's are in, it might be worth running "sudp apt-get update" first, then retrying to install, if that doesn't work, it might be worth changing to a different server
[13:42] <DJones> s/sudp/sudo/
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavies: are you getting something along the lines of: W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192     with sudo apt-get update???
[13:45] <alumnoeps> WHOIS hitsujiTMO
[13:45] <alumnoeps> ups
[13:46] <MarkDavies> hitsujiTMO, DJones: thank you for your help. Simple update worked.
[13:47] <LeMike> o,O What is it that HISTTIMEFORMAT doesn't work showing the correct date? every command is shown as today...
[13:48] <newuser> how to setup "Wipro-Seiko Epson LQ1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer" in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: whats the output of: echo $HISTTIMEFORMAT
[13:48] <Hebbel> Hey there. Trying mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1 and still get : too big for a filesystem with 0 nodes. any solution around that ?
[13:49] <alumnoeps> PART
[13:50] <LeMike> hitsujiTMO: it's the correct one. just found out that the time is correct, but the date is always today because it's not in .bash_profile -.- sorry. need coffee
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: :)
[13:51] <irishboydu03> Hi everyone :)
[13:53] <TJ-> Hebbel: "man mkfs" - you haven't specified [size]
[13:53] <Hebbel> TJ-: I am doing it to the entire drive
[13:55] <TJ-> Hebbel: What are the extends of sda1 according to the kernel ("cat /proc/partitions | grep sda1") ?
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: whats the output of: cat /sys/block/sda/sda1/size
[13:59] <hitsujiTMO> or, wait. TJ- already asked for that info
[13:59] <TJ-> afternoon hitsujiTMO :)
[13:59] <hitsujiTMO> hello
[13:59] <D3llTr33> hello
[14:00] <HuchMan> hello
[14:00] <Hebbel> hitsujiTMO:  output is 2
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: thats a 1 kb partition
[14:01] <AmbiguousOutlier> hello, I've just installed 13.10 and my graphics and very slow and flickering
[14:01] <Hebbel> hitsujiTMO: its a 2TB hd. i think the partition is now sda5
[14:01] <eintw1ck> Hi is there any way to sync an iPod nano 6G with ubuntu 12.04?
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: then mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda5
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: sda1 must be an extended partition, and sda5 is the logical partition in that
[14:02] <Hebbel> hitsujiTMO: did mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda5 then mkdir /disk1 then mount /dev/sdb1 /disk1 ... still cant see  the disk  in my computer
[14:02] <TJ-> Hebbel: If you're not sure, be cautious! Check. Check. and check again!
[14:03] <m> frenchy here
[14:03] <Hebbel> TJ its a new drive ... and the workstation has no data I could lose ...
[14:03] <Hebbel> m: cool
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: that sould be mount /dev/sda5 /disk1               then cd /disk1; ls
[14:04] <m> :-)
[14:04] <TJ-> Hebbel: sda5 then sdb1?
[14:04] <m> i am a newbie just doawnload xubuntu
[14:04] <Hebbel> hitsujiTMO: sorry yes type it was sda5 not sdb ... I can ls, and i get : lost+found
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: thats the drive then
[14:05] <Hebbel> hitsujiTMO: how come i cant see it in my computer ?
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: you can, open nautilus. go to /disk1
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> Hebbel: its not showing as a "seperate drive" in nautilus as it is a native filesystem.
[14:06] <newuser> how to setup "Wipro-Seiko Epson LQ1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer" in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[14:07] <Hebbel> hitsujiTMO: Thanks !!!! working like a charm
[14:14] <Blueer> hi, my "export" values are not working since i've done a update of ubuntu 13.10 desktop x64
[14:14] <Blueer> can't understand why
[14:14] <bekks> Which "export" values and where?
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> Blueer: as in envars??? /etc/exports ?? which, where and how are they defined
[14:16] <funky> can I easily RDP
[14:16] <funky> in Ubuntu desktop
[14:16] <funky> like Unity
[14:19] <funky> wake up!
[14:19] <funky> :D
[14:19] <jpds> funky: You can.
[14:23] <eintw1ck> Is there any way to sync an iPod nano 6G with ubuntu 12.04?
[14:26] <cuddylier> How do I download a file to nothing, the null thing? I forgot the command.
[14:26] <liubuntu> hello everyone
[14:26] <AussieDownUnder> Is there such things as linux/debian/ubuntu courses?
[14:26] <newuser> how to setup "Wipro-Seiko Epson LQ1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer" in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[14:27] <jozefk> anybody got nvidia optimus working with ubuntu?
[14:27] <bekks> cuddylier: Downloading a file to "nothing" is pretty nonsense, isnt it?
[14:27] <CarlFK> AussieDownUnder: yes
[14:27] <cuddylier> bekks Not if I want to test my download speed
[14:27] <CarlFK> AussieDownUnder: you must missed a great event: http://linux.conf.au
[14:28] <AussieDownUnder> carlfk, are they more likely to be online? I wonder if I could do it at uni/tafe here in Australia
[14:28] <TJ-> cuddylier: "wget -O - <url> >/dev/null"
[14:29] <cuddylier> T3 Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
[14:29] <AussieDownUnder> That's in Western Australia, way way way way away from me. I'm in QLD, opposite side to WA
[14:29] <TJ-> AussieDownUnder: If you want online course, I'd highly recommend spending time in this channel, #ubuntu-server, and ##linux ... and maybe experimenting with the problems and solutions (and the commands) you see
[14:30] <AussieDownUnder> carlfk^
[14:30] <CarlFK> AussieDownUnder: your best bet is to find a local group who you can chat with to get a feel for what you are looking for.  "I want to surf the web" is a very different goal from "I want to write a device driver to interface to this high end"
[14:31] <AussieDownUnder> carlfk, lol yeah I don't need web surf help haha, I was thinking more a long the line of o/s support & running ubuntu servers.
[14:31] <CarlFK> AussieDownUnder: lca moves around each year, and there are smaller events everywhere. hanging out here is good.  having projects you are interested in and trying to do it is good
[14:32] <CarlFK> AussieDownUnder: running a server is easy: install, disconnect from the internet, make sure the power light is on. :p
[14:33] <AussieDownUnder> carlfk, lol. Does Ubuntu Server Support running steam game servers & other game servers?
[14:35] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running thunderbird, but it suddenly closes without any warning! I run it via cmd, and this time it gerentated some errors. Does anybody know what should I do? (It is 24.2.0)
[14:35] <bekks> mojtaba: Pastebin the errors :)
[14:36] <CarlFK> AussieDownUnder: Ubuntu Server is really just Ubuntu without anything other than what you need to install other packages.  so it has the disk/file stuff, users, networking and the  apt package system.  no clue what it takes to install steam or such
[14:36] <TJ-> mojtaba: Do the same errors occur if you do "thunderbird -safe-mode"
[14:36] <AussieDownUnder> Restarted your pc lately?
[14:36] <mojtaba> bekks: ok
[14:36] <mojtaba> TJ-: I have not tested safe-mod
[14:36] <mojtaba> e
[14:37] <newuser> how to setup "Wipro-Seiko Epson LQ1050+ 24pin dot-matrix printer" in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[14:38] <mojtaba> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6937500/
[14:42] <Red-XIII> hi guys, it's me again with my notebook and my nvidia gt 740m card which, w/o driver, warn up my notebook until 65/70°C
[14:42] <chrislu5tic> Ubuntu 12.04.4 freezes at login screen : / I have no idea why
[14:45] <TJ-> mojtaba: Re-run thunderbird under the debugger, by prefixing the command-line with "gdb --args thunderbird ..." ... at the gdb prompt, do "run". When it seg-faults do "bt" (backtrace) and pastebin the output. Do "quit" to close the debug session.
[14:51] <sarthor> HI, I have USB 4 channel DVR, Easycapture, Is it possible to use that dvr with linux machine, Is there any application in linux that can show that 4 cameras connected to that usb dvr?
[14:59] <Maurice_la_sauci> Hello
[15:00] <Maurice_la_sauci> I'm a bit confused, I'm actually removing "vim-tiny" as I want full version of vim. But what should I get? "vim" only or "vim-gnome"? What's the difference?
[15:00] <somsip> Maurice_la_sauci: I use vim-nox but can't remember why...
[15:00] <Anton_> where does ubuntu(linux in common) get dns setting if there's no resolv.conf file?
[15:01] <Anton_> it's docker image, inside there's no resolv.conf
[15:01] <Anton_> so how does it know where to look?
[15:01] <somsip> Maurice_la_sauci: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/281886/what-is-the-difference-between-the-different-vim-packages-available-in-ubuntu
[15:01] <compdoc> Anton_, might be added to /etc/network/interfaces
[15:03] <Maurice_la_sauci> thank you somsip, I'm under gnome classic so I guess I'll go with vim-gnome so. Therefore "vim" only is more for "Unity"? :/
[15:04] <somsip> Maurice_la_sauci: not really sure. I got the advice for vim-nox from somewhere I forget. There will be more comparison charts out there like that link I sent if you research more
[15:06] <TJ-> Maurice_la_sauci: "vim" is the standard terminal version (doesn't require an X server)
[15:06] <Maurice_la_sauci> TJ-: I don't get it, so what should I get?
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> Maurice_la_sauci: are you looking for a graphical editor, or a terminal editor/
[15:07] <TJ-> Maurice_la_sauci: most vim users will work at the terminal, that's vim's strength. In GUIs there are other options, besides the vim variations
[15:07] <Maurice_la_sauci> I don't need graphical interface, just terminal
[15:08] <Maurice_la_sauci> oh so "vim-gnome" is a graphical interface like "GVim" is?
[15:08] <TJ-> Maurice_la_sauci: To see the full range of options listed, do "apt-cache search ^vim" ... to check out each one do "apt-cache show <package-name>"
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> Maurice_la_sauci: also if you're looking for an advanced editor, there's always emacs
[15:11] <Maurice_la_sauci> hitsujiTMO: no thank you, I used to use Vim on macosx so I'll stick with it, just don't know if "vim-gnome" is a graphical interface or just a compatibility with my "gnome classic"
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> Maurice_la_sauci: thats a graphical interface.
[15:14] <mojtaba> TJ-: after running gdb --args thunderbird, and run in gdb cmd prompt: it gaves: (gdb) run
[15:14] <mojtaba> Starting program:  No executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command.
[15:15] <TJ-> mojtaba: ahhh, is "file $(which thunderbird)" a POSIX shell file?
[15:16] <mojtaba> TJ-: I don't know!
[15:16] <TJ-> mojtaba: Use the command and see what it tells you!
[15:16] <TJ-> mojtaba: If so, the thunderbird script takes the "-g" argument to run under the debugger
[15:16] <AKILES> good morning ubuntu's people
[15:17] <TJ-> mojtaba: So, you can do it by simply "thunderbird -g"
[15:17] <mojtaba> TJ-: /usr/bin/thunderbird: symbolic link to `../lib/thunderbird/thunderbird.sh'
[15:19] <mojtaba> TJ-: should I still use gdb?
[15:19] <TJ-> mojtaba: So, you can do it by simply "thunderbird -g"
[15:21] <mojtaba> TJ-: man thunderbird does not have this switch?
[15:21] <mojtaba> TJ-: how can I exit gdb command prompt?
[15:22] <TJ-> mojtaba: scroll back, I gave you instructions on how to use it
[15:23] <mojtaba> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6937722/
[15:25] <mojtaba> TJ-: this is the result of thunderbird -g and then run
[15:25] <TJ-> mojtaba: That is weird "[Inferior 1 (process 14258) exited normally]" ... it closed immediately. Are you sure you don't have another instance already running?
[15:26] <mojtaba> TJ-: I am running thunderbird and chatting with you with another instance.
[15:26] <mojtaba> TJ-: I mean chatting using thunderbird
[15:27] <TJ-> mojtaba: Well that explains it, if you try to run it a 2nd time it won't happen, otherwise one instance would overwrite data of the other
[15:27] <TJ-> mojtaba: This is what you'd expect to see as thunderbird starts using gdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6937741/
[15:28] <ajoul> What is the ACK flag bit in the TCP/IPv4 header for?
[15:28] <mojtaba> TJ-: I will exit this instance of thunderbird and then come back again with new one.
[15:28] <TJ-> mojtaba: You need to quit thunderbird entirely, then restart it using "thunderbird -g" then telling gdb to "run" ... then use Thunderbird until it seg-faults, at which time return to the terminal and do "bt" to grab the backtrace
[15:29] <mojtaba> TJ-: ok, thanks
[15:31] <mojtaba> TJ-: I am now running it. when thunderbird stopped working, I should type bt in gdb cmd, yes?
[15:32] <demas> hello guys!
[15:33] <demas> I have  a small question to ask you...
[15:34] <TJ-> mojtaba: yes. If that doesn't reveal enough, we'd then install the debug symbols packages for thunderbird and its libraries, and do it all over again. The -dbgsym packages reveal every function and argument name, and is very useful for developers trying to fix bugs
[15:34] <mojtaba> TJ-: Thank you very much for your help
[15:40] <pietro10> well I now have more data on my fonts issue: if there's a fonts.conf file in my .config/fontconfig, then all programs display fonts incorrectly, not just GTK+ programs - this happened in the past, but at least now deleting fonts.conf fixes the KDE programs (which didn't happen before) - lack of fonts.conf, however, does not fix the GTK+ programs from rendering fonts incorrectly... Does KDE not use fontconfig by default or something?
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> pietro10: in what way are the fonts rendering incorrectly.can you provide a screenshot?
[15:46] <ubuntu13> Is it normal that the grub2 screen on ubuntu shouldn't "fill" the screen?
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> pietro10: there's also ~/.fonts/ which is deprecated. KDE may still be using the old config folder
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu13: depends on the gpu and if grub can detect its capabilities
[15:49] <pietro10> hitsujiTMO: there is no ~/.fonts/; this is a fresh install
[15:49] <ubuntu13> hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu has finally properly detected the gpu and the monitor. But I don't know how to "make" grub do that.
[15:49] <pietro10> and sure I can provide a screenshot in a bit
[15:52] <pietro10> http://imgur.com/dyfjNcz left: GTK; right: KDE - I'm considering the GTK+ ones wrong
[15:52] <myculo> hello
[15:52] <myculo> hello
[15:52] <ubuntu13> hitsujiTMO, Is there any way I can "tell" grub to use a specific refresh rate like we do about resolutions etc?
[15:52] <pietro10> hi; we are here
[15:53] <myculo> hey
[15:53] <myculo> I also develop for FOS
[15:53] <firefoxos> ey guys, where is located the wpa_config.conf file? It's not in /etc/
[15:53] <myculo> Are you from mozilla?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu13: i think you do it in /etc/default/grub
[15:53] <firefoxos> yes myculo
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu13: you can specify the resolution in /etc/default/grub
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> firefoxos: sudo updatedb; locate wpa_config
[15:54] <myculo> I received my geeksphone on october
[15:54] <myculo> I love it!
[15:54] <Rex_In_Effect> will someone type my name plz im testing
[15:54] <firefoxos> nice to read it myculo
[15:54] <firefoxos> Rex_In_Effect,
[15:55] <myculo> Really looking forward for a new phone for FOS
[15:55] <Rex_In_Effect> ty
[15:55] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, There isn't any such line afaik. Do I have to enter something "new"? What would that format be like? I can't find any docs hitsujiTMO , I know about the res, I'm only interested in the rr
[15:55] <firefoxos> myculo, the next Geeksphone device is quite similar to the Peak+
[15:55] <myculo> It's the blackphone, isn't it?
[15:56] <firefoxos> no, it is grey
[15:56] <myculo> ajam
[15:56] <firefoxos> Geekpshone Revolution
[15:56] <myculo> O yes, I heard about it
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu13: try GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x800-24             .... or whatever resolution you want
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103516/grub2-use-maximum-detected-resolution
[15:56] <myculo> You gave me a phone to publish an implementation of the game of life
[15:56] <firefoxos> I hope to get the Sony device
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: you will need to find the res you can use in text mode
[15:57] <myculo> Which one?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: its not always the same as in xorg
[15:57] <firefoxos> there are two games of life
[15:57] <DJones> !ot | myculo firefoxos
[15:57] <ubuntu13> hitsujiTMO, Not the resolution - the REFRESH RATE is what I wanna specify
[15:57] <myculo> yes
[15:57] <myculo> the one i developed is the one in orange
[15:58] <firefoxos> ey myculo, lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:58] <myculo> great!
[15:58] <myculo> I'm there
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu13: GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x800-24@60
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: sudo apt-get install v86d hwinfo; sudo hwinfo --framebuffer
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: will tell the resolutions you can use
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: rather than try to guess
[15:59] <zacktu> how can i start skype from the command line and not use the default browser?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: skype &
[16:00] <shwouchk> Hello
[16:00] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, I KNOW what my monitor/gpu is capable of. I just want grub to use it.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: its what it can do under framebuffer. Its not always the same
[16:01] <ubuntu13> hitsujiTMO, will try that. But why 24? Can't it do 32bit? vbeinfo says it does
[16:01] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, I see
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: 24bit in Linux is equivelant to Windows 32bit
[16:02] <mojtaba> TJ-: It is not working now, but it did not exit
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu13: grub colours dont use an alpha channel
[16:02] <bekks> ubuntu13: Your eyes cant distinguish between 24 and 32 bit anyways.
[16:02] <sabestion> hi all
[16:03] <shwouchk> I have a twofold problem: 1. I cannot log in to my user - after I try to login the screen goes black for a second and then I'm thrown out back to the login screen. I created a second user and I can log in with it, so this is something with my session: how to debug? 2. When I press A+C+F1, the screen goes black for a second and then I'm back to the gdm screen. What can cause this?
[16:03] <ubuntu13> bekks, It can, as far as transperancy is concerned ;)
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu13: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/color-why-is-32bit-windows-%3D-24bit-linux-124772/
[16:03] <mojtaba> TJ-: All the thunderbird screen is gray.
[16:03] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, Thanks, will read that
[16:03] <sabestion> i got this error opening cache
[16:03] <mojtaba> TJ-: Are you there?
[16:03] <TJ-> mojtaba: did you type "run" at the gdb prompt?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Shwouchk: can you log in to a different session as the same user?
[16:03] <cumaxo> hola , cuando formatee e hice una tabla de particiones nueva con Gparted , lo hice en msdos creo que era.... eso es MBR o GPT ?? com odeberia hacerlo para GPT?
[16:04] <DJones> !es | cumaxo
[16:04] <mojtaba> TJ-: Yes I did
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login screen and login there, then run: df -h ,do you have free space on your partitions?
[16:05] <sabestion> "encountered a section with no package header" what does this mean?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: how are you generating the error?
[16:05] <sabestion> i saw this stop symbol so i click on it
[16:06] <sabestion> and it prompt me to run package manager
[16:06] <mojtaba> TJ-: Was it bk? sorry my thunderbird is now hanged and I can not check what you said there.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: can you use http://pastie.org and give the full output of: sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[16:06] <sabestion> my ubuntu software manager cannot run as well
[16:06] <TJ-> mojtaba: Does gdb show its prompt? if not, thunderbird is still running. If you see the gdb prompt, do "bt" to get the backtrace
[16:07] <mojtaba> TJ-: I can see the prompt, let me do that.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: or a different pastebin if you like
[16:07] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: I can ssh as the user for instance
[16:07] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: and when I manage to get to a tty, I can login from tty
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: ok, doesnt answer my wuesrions though....
[16:08] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: ah, different X session? no
[16:08] <mojtaba> TJ-: I send them for you privately
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: free space ok? Can you log in to another GUI session as the same user?
[16:08] <sabestion> ok i'll use that bin u provide
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: df -h ,is there free space on the partitions?
[16:09] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: I do have free space, but as per the description to problem #2, Pressing A+C+F1 gets me nowhere, just throws me out of my session if i am logged in with another user
[16:09] <ubuntu13> will test the new settings now... see ya"ll
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: do you run commands like "sudongedit" and / or "sudo nautilus"
[16:10] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: I can only login through another user and then su - to my user
[16:10] <sabestion> actionparsnip, i've pasted it
[16:10] <Dbugger> I am trying to go to "/var/log/apache2" to read the logs, but whenever I try to "cd apache2", it tells me "Permission denied". What is happening??
[16:10] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure I understand your question
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: copy the address bar of the browser and paste in here
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: do you use sudo for GUI apps
[16:10] <sabestion> http://pastie.org/8736544
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: in your system use...like "sudo nautilus"
[16:12] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: not that I recall, though it might have happened. P.S., I'm fairly versed so you can ask your questions directly.
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[16:12] <solsTiCe> hi. when I run iw reg get i got a country 00 whereas I am in France. And I get  see from ubuntu a channel 13 Hotspot. Isn't that related ? Why ubuntu do not set that crda to france ?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: my questions are direct. When have they been indirect?
[16:13] <sabestion> ActionParsnip: done
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: su to your user, then run: sudo chown -r $USER:$USER $HOME
[16:13] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: I mean like it was clearer when you just asked whether I used GUI programs via sudo rather than giving an example of a command (i.e. sudo nautilus)
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: itbwill take a while to run
[16:13] <sabestion> ok
[16:14] <sabestion> so it will autorun later?
[16:14] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: ~ contains two files owned by root: .ICEAuthority and .XAuthority. Could they have been the culprits?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: no, the command will clear package knowledge from the OS then redownload fresh from the web
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: YES
[16:15] <sabestion> OMG it's running now!! sorry, i'm new here... it looks amazing
[16:15] <TJ-> mojtaba: see, for background on the cause, bug #1039916
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: you are running GUI apps using sudo and breaking your OS
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: use gksudo for GUI apps, or kdesu in KDE
[16:15] <TJ-> mojtaba: Is the system using the nvidia proprietary driver?
[16:16] <sabestion> erm.. it's asking me if i want to continue as it will use additional disk space.
[16:16] <mojtaba> TJ-: Yes
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: say yes if asked
[16:16] <zacktu> ActionParsnip: I asked about skype command line -- skype wants to use firefox -- i want to have it use chrome without changing my system default browser
[16:16] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: 0. Thanks! 1. You're being overly dramatic (I'm not breaking the "OS"). 2. nvidia-settings instructed me to run a command as root...
[16:17] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: you are right, thanks!
[16:17] <shwouchk> brb
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: if itnwasnt broken you wouldnt be asking for help and your user would be able to log in.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: its why you use gksudo for GUI apps and the OS doesnt break
[16:18] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: my OS isn't broken, I have a problem with my session. You are being dramatic again
[16:18] <shwouchk> had
[16:18] <shwouchk> I'm back in, thanks again ActionParsnip
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: not working equals broken
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: no worries, glad you got the gold
[16:19] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: if the OS wasn't working we wouldn't be speaking, as I have 1 computer only
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: ok not working fully.
[16:19] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: Do you happen to know why Alt+Ctrl+F1 doesn't work as intended?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: not sure, its a default thing in all Linuxes to switch TTY
[16:20] <TJ-> mojtaba: That bug was one I worked on ages ago, and eventually figured out the root cause. At that time we (Ubuntu devs) thought it was only affecting that obscure package, but searching the bug reports shows a lot of applications affected, now including Thunderbird. As far as I can tell, it seems the issue happens when you have a lot of (large) GUI objects allocated in memory, and there is no longer a large enough block available to do vector processing on.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: if you have only one computer how can you SSH to it?
[16:21] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: ssh user@localhost from the guest account
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: ahh makes sense
[16:22] <ubuntu13> Didn't work. No matter what res, even 1280x720@60 gives the black bars on the grub2 menus :(
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: did hwinfo show you can do 1280x720@60 in framebuffer?
[16:23] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, "couldn't find package" Got the res fro vbeinfo
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> !info hwinfo
[16:23] <maddeth> Have an interesting issue, anyone care to help? I have acquired a Microsoft Surface 1.0 (now called a PixelSense) and I would like to get the touch screen working with Ubuntu
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Hmmm
[16:24] <fudge2> good day
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: try something lower, like 1024x768
[16:24] <mojtaba> TJ-: what should I do now?
[16:24] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, 'Package hwinfo is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source'
[16:25] <fudge2> did anybody watch
[16:25] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, May be have to add some repo first?
[16:25] <fudge2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrGKov8Ac08
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:25] <fudge2> it's a show
[16:25] <fudge2> about a french dog cat & frog
[16:25] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, Those black bars are there even at the default 640x480
[16:25] <shwouchk> Alt+Ctrl+F1 does not give me a tty, Instead I am thrown back to gdm. What could cause this?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> fudge2: this is support only
[16:25] <DJones> fudge2: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? Thats what this channel is for
[16:26] <fudge2> oh
[16:26] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[16:26] <maddeth> no-one have anu idea's?
[16:26] <fudge2> is correctness more important than good manners sir!?
[16:26] <TJ-> mojtaba: Try to reduce the number of intensive graphical windows in use
[16:26] <DJones> ActionParsnip: hwinfo doesn't exist in 13.10
[16:26] <maddeth> s/anu/any/
[16:26] <shwouchk> Does anyone know how to get a laptop with switchable graphics utilize the nvidia card?
[16:27] <fudge2> you goddamn autistic fosstards
[16:27] <OerHeks> Fudge, read the topic before entering an supportchannel, thanks
[16:27] <fudge2> learn 2 manners
[16:27] <sabestion> restart nautilus actionparsnip?
[16:27] <mojtaba> TJ-: no other solution
[16:27] <mojtaba> ?
[16:27] <jozefk> I installed 12.04.4 64bit and without doing anything at all, I can see my nvidia optimus is working, even the external monitor on HDMI! but when I try to turn it on and turn off the screen on laptop, ubuntu is loggin off by itself and when I log back in the settings are back to default. Then I also tried to turn both screens on and it works but I can't move the cursor to the external monitor. Anybody with idea what am I suppose to do? Maybe install ad
[16:27] <jozefk> ditional drivers?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: what for?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: did you install bumblebee?
[16:28] <jozefk> ActionParsnip, no. nothing
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> shwouchk: you'll need bumblebeebto support that Oprimus mess
[16:28] <sabestion> it says dropbox requires nautilus to be restarted to function properly
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Djones: yeah it depends on hal. Booo
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: you'll need it
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: yes then restartbitbusing the button
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Restart it using
[16:29] <jozefk> ActionParsnip, how does it work right now then?
[16:29] <shwouchk> ActionParsnip: It isn't primus, this is with an actual hardware switch
[16:30] <maddeth> is there a development channel?
[16:30] <maveas> Anyone using nginx 1.5.x and ngx_purge_cache? I need feedback on the stability of the module..
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: no idea. Im avoiding Optimus like Paris Hilton avoids talent
[16:31] <sabestion> ActionParsnip: it's not responding?
[16:31] <jozefk> ActionParsnip, I have no choice. That's what I got so that's what I have to use
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sabestion: it has restarted, just keep going :-)
[16:31] <sabestion> oh ok thanks a lot ActionParsnip
[16:32] <chrillster> running lighthttpd on ubuntu server 12.04. Anyone know about any web gui? I do prefer the command line, but would like to check it out.
[16:32] <maddeth> chrillster, webmin?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Chrillster: phpmyadmin maybe....
[16:33] <bekks> !webmin | maddeth
[16:33] <shwouchk> jozefk: do you have a hardware button to switch between nvidia and intel, or is it all software?
[16:33] <chrillster> oh, sorry maddeth forgot to say, not webmin.
[16:33] <chrillster> ActionParsnip will check it out.
[16:33] <shwouchk> maddeth: what do you see in lspci?
[16:33] <chrillster> Thanks
[16:33] <jozefk> shwouchk, no hardware button. and I can't disable optimus in BIOS
[16:33] <maddeth> bekks, thanks, didn't know that,
[16:34] <shwouchk> jozefk: damn (I was hoping we have similar systems)
[16:34] <jozefk> :)
[16:34] <maddeth> shwouchk, want a pastebin?
[16:34] <jozefk> I am at least happy I see the HDMi in xrandr
[16:34] <shwouchk> maddeth: yes
[16:34] <maddeth> !pastebin
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> chrillster: how are you wanting the web ui to manage the service? Its very simple....
[16:35] <jozefk> all other distros are still miles away from what I got with 12.04.4
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: miles away in what sense?
[16:36] <jozefk> ActionParsnip, I can't even come close to get the HDMI working
[16:36] <maddeth> shwouchk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6938096/
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Jozefk: ive heard folks have good Optimus support in Suse and Fedora.
[16:37] <jozefk> I tried fedora. I installed it too. was not able to get it working at all
[16:37] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, hwinfo is removed from ubuntu. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/amd64/hwinfo :(
[16:38] <jozefk> opensuse haven't even try.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu13: yeah it depends on hal
[16:38] <ubuntu13> ActionParsnip, hmmmph.
[16:38] <jozefk> shwouchk, do you think I have to install additional, proprietary drivers?
[16:39] <Fnet> !seen thomas
[16:39] <soahccc> Is it recommended to install ubuntu 11 if 12 is not working on my old notebook? I'm not sure if 11 will work either, all I know is that Windows XP has worked.
[16:39] <Fnet> lates new breivik joins debian devs to play fps for free
[16:39] <Fnet> OMFG
[16:40] <bekks> soahccc: 11 is unsupported. Install 10.04, install a non-PAE kernel, and upgrade to 12.04 then.
[16:40] <shwouchk> jozefk: optimus/primus/switchable is not very worked on afaik, I try to set it up here from time to time w/o much success. You might want to search for bumblebee and/or vga_switcheroo
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Bekks: if you use 12.04 minimal you can install on Non PAE CPU
[16:41] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Ah, googd to know.
[16:41] <soahccc> bekks: PAE was one issue but I also had problems with the video card. I tried some fork (xubuntu) which does not need PAE but the monitor wasn't detected correctly as I had a soup of pixels
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[16:42] <shwouchk> maddeth: doesn't seem like it is listed. How about lsusb?
[16:42] <bekks> soahccc: Then you have to install the graphics drivevr correctly instead of using an unsupported release :)
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> soahccc: grab the 12.04.0/1 iso then
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Soahccc: install minimal iso then the ubuntu-desktop package on there, or install lxde and lightdm for a super light desktop
[16:43] <soahccc> bekks: Well I would try if I could see a thing but there is just random pixels :)
[16:43] <bekks> soahccc: you could start in textmode, e.g.
[16:44] <maddeth> shwouchk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6938162/ there you go :) thanks
[16:45] <maddeth> shwouchk, I think it is bound to be the MS Corp ones, but no idea which one or how to test it
[16:47] <TJ-> jozefk: Can you pastebin "xrandr -q"
[16:47] <shwouchk> maddeth: it appears that it is the 045e:xxxx devices (as those are listed on windows touch devices here: https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB)
[16:48] <jozefk> TJ-, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4300648
[16:49] <shwouchk> maddeth: and I also have a wireless usb keyboard/mouse combo that starts with 045e
[16:49] <TJ-> jozefk: So you've got a desktop across the LVDS and a VGA monitor?
[16:50] <jozefk> I got a red icon on top right corner and it says "Restart to complete updates..." What kind of updates? I haven't update anything if I remember good
[16:50] <jozefk> TJ-, what is LVDS? I don't use VGA I need only HDMI
[16:50] <bekks> jozefk: Automatically installed updates.
[16:50] <TJ-> jozefk: "LVDS1 connected primary 1366x768+0+0" and "VGA-2 connected 1024x768+1366+0"
[16:51] <maddeth> shwouchk, 046d:c517 Logitech is my keyboard/mouse :)
[16:51] <jozefk> TJ-, there is nothing connected on VGA. I have only 1 external monitor connected to HDMI
[16:51] <shwouchk> maddeth: I don't really know what to do further, but I suspect that this device communicates similarly to a mouse, and would therefore look for info on how to write something to interface a mouse. If you are in luck it might be as simple as telling HAL/udev that this device is a mouse (but I'm out of my depth here). Good luck!
[16:51] <jozefk> LVDS1 must be then the LCD on laptop
[16:52] <TJ-> jozefk: Correct, LVDS = Low Voltage Differential Signalling
[16:52] <TJ-> jozefk: But that output shows there is a VGA output and it is being used.
[16:52] <jozefk> I have VGA right but nothing is attached to it
[16:53] <su_awesome> hi, there's this Java console I want to access on my VPS control panel. What should I install for that? Simply java-common ?
[16:53] <TJ-> jozefk: I'm not sure how your particular chipset works but most single/multiplexed GPU systems will only support *two* simultaneous outputs at once, which is what you have got.
[16:53] <TJ-> jozefk: maybe it is something to do with the optimus chipset?
[16:53] <TJ-> jozefk: however, you could try using xrandr to disable VGA-2, then try enabling HDMI-1
[16:54] <jozefk> TJ-, can I disable/turn off the VGA and turn on the HDMI?
[16:54] <jozefk> how?
[16:55] <TJ-> jozefk: "xrandr --output VGA-2 --off" then "xrandr --output HDMI-1 --auto"
[16:55] <Vivekananda> I loaded ccsm and then on propmting loaded open gl and now everything is gone . how do I get back unity ?
[16:56] <Vivekananda> ubuntu 12.04
[16:58] <jozefk> TJ-, it's working now. but the graphics on HDMI are not good and there is a delay. it's slow. if I move the window around or the cursor I see like a tail on the screens
[16:58] <TJ-> jozefk: That's probably the whole Optimus issue, can't help you there
[16:59] <TJ-> jozefk: I'd guess it is using the low-power GPU right now and it is struggling
[16:59] <maddeth> shwouchk, thanks, it's not going to be easy! it's not really "touch" screen as it can read the depth too
[16:59] <ice9> what is the filesystem type of the boot.img and system.img?
[16:59] <ice9> when I try to mount it on linux as: mount -o loop boot.img /mnt  is say you must specify the filesystem type
[16:59] <jozefk> TJ-, maybe I have to install nvidia drivers?
[17:00] <jozefk> TJ-, can I turn off LVDS1 with xrandr and to have only HDMI working?
[17:02] <jozefk> I turned off LVDS1 but the HDMI is still not good enough
[17:03] <daftykins> if you install nvidia drivers the whole thing will break
[17:03] <daftykins> you'll need to follow an optimus guide
[17:04] <jozefk> optimus guide? where can I find that?
[17:07] <Vivekananda> hello eveyrone
[17:07] <Vivekananda> in very bad
[17:08] <Vivekananda> lost unity and now the launcer is gone and none of the shortcuts work
[17:08] <Vivekananda> the stupid ccsm botched everything
[17:09] <jozefk> better if I reboot first coz of updates
[17:09] <Vivekananda> what should I do
[17:11] <CountryfiedLinux> Will Unity 8 be released before Ubuntu 14.10?
[17:11] <CountryfiedLinux> And if so, will it be available for other distros?
[17:13] <soahccc> Someone knows what the problem is here? I read "res not present on the CPU"… http://files.sven.bmonkeys.net/images/Foto6.JPG_20140215_181254.png
[17:13] <soahccc> Minimal 12.04 this is
[17:14] <Tom1> is it necessary to install updates after installing linux mint?
[17:15] <RexInEffect> does anyone know about sharing partitions with multiple linux distros?
[17:16] <SpaghettiCat> Tom1:  You're in the wrong channel. This is the place for ubuntu
[17:17] <RexInEffect> its a good idea tom u dont have to tho
[17:19] <TJ-> soahccc: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[17:19] <bekks> RexInEffect: Just mount them. There is nothing more needed to know.
[17:21] <TJ-> RexInEffect: Depends on what's in the file-systems - if its configuration files or executables (such as a file-system for /usr/ or /var/) then 'sharing' them for OS use is not a good idea. Sharing them as 'data' file-systems is fine
[17:23] <Rion1337> Can anyone link me to somewhere usefull for dual booting ubuntu onto a macbook air?
[17:24] <soahccc> TJ-: Thanks, I try lubuntu-non-pae then. The font was a bit cryptic, couldn't read the PAE part :)
[17:24] <TJ-> soahccc: The PAE was the middle line on its own
[17:25] <wrongplace> nobodz in owncloud helps me, nobody answer, can I paste a question here?
[17:25] <wrongplace> its permissions related
[17:25] <wrongplace> in linux and owncloud
[17:26] <user___> How do i create a symlink?
[17:26] <impossible> if i load ubuntu in gnome classic am I still using compiz?
[17:26] <impossible> i dont like unity w/ compiz
[17:32] <cornfeedhobo> teward: ping!!!
[17:32] <soahccc> TJ-: Hmm now I'm there where I stopped last time I think. Something with "undefined video bla bla: 314" I can read… http://files.sven.bmonkeys.net/images/Foto7.JPG_20140215_183139.png
[17:32] <glitsj16> Rion1337: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir might help
[17:34] <soahccc> That's the model so I don't understand why I have such big problems with installing linux :( http://www.linlap.com/dell_latitude_d505
[17:34] <TJ-> soahccc: "Undefined video mode: 314" "Press <SPACE> to continue or wait 30 seconds"
[17:35] <mangavalk> hello
[17:35] <soahccc> TJ-: If I press space or wait it won't do a thing, just remove the warning and stick on the menu
[17:35] <mangavalk> can someone give me some advice?
[17:35] <TJ-> soahccc: The linux command-line, from the boot-loader, is probably set to try selecting a video mode that system can't do
[17:36] <TJ-> soahccc: Does it keep returning to that boot menu then?
[17:36] <TJ-> soahccc: Try Advanced Options, and edit the linux boot command line to remove any mention of video modes
[17:37] <cornfeedhobo> this needs to be built in ubuntu post haste https://code.google.com/p/dvorak-qwerty/
[17:37] <Hxxx> Any ideas to: dpkg status is brokw, dpkg -i , dpkg -l throw errors in relation to status. apt-get is broken and complain about libapt 4.12, aptitude wont work same error, and ssh is broken since it crash, right now, with only local console access
[17:37] <Hxxx> Any suggestions ^ ^
[17:37] <soahccc> TJ-: After showing me this message it removes the green text, stays in the boot menu and doesn't respond anymore.
[17:38] <TJ-> soahccc: If you reboot to that menu, then do Advanced, and change the boot options, will it proceed/
[17:38] <soahccc> I'll try that
[17:38] <mangavalk> can someone give me adivie on mdadm? is it smart to use multiple sata controllers?
[17:39] <TJ-> mangavalk: explain some more, the question seems incomplete, what would/could be "un"smart?
[17:40] <mangavalk> what if 1 controller would fail? would i loose the entire array?
[17:40] <TJ-> mangavalk: Depends on the array type
[17:40] <bekks> mangavalk: And depends on the error type.
[17:40] <mangavalk> say i use a raid 5, with 5 sata controllers and 20 drives.
[17:40] <bekks> mangavalk: Having a backup, the array may fail.
[17:41] <foofoobar> Hi. Does someone know if there is a tool like http://www.cockos.com/licecap/ for ubuntu/linux ?
[17:41] <soahccc> TJ-: When I go into advanced options I only have "Back…", "Expert Install", "Command-Line expert install" and "rescue mode"… No settings for my understanding
[17:41] <TJ-> RAID6 would be better, with that number of drives, or RAID4 (dedicated parity drives(s))
[17:41] <bekks> mangavalk: Thats pretty unsmart, due to the massive traffic on the PCI bus.
[17:41] <mangavalk> im just overthinking my server upgrade. is the chance that a sata controller fails large? im going to upgrade to raid 6 then btw.
[17:42] <TJ-> soahccc: You'll have to explore the options, I've not touched that in years. I think there's a key you can press (F6?) that allows editing the kernel command-line options
[17:42] <impossible> if i load ubuntu in gnome classic am I still using compiz? i dont like unity w/ compiz
[17:42] <mangavalk> im not using the pci for anything else
[17:42] <bekks> mangavalk: Better think of having backups, instead of controllers.
[17:42] <glitsj16> impossible: you might have 2 additional login options for gnome classic, the one mentioning 'no effects' is without compiz
[17:42] <bekks> mangavalk: And a raid striped over 5 controllers will max out the pci bus.
[17:43] <soahccc> TJ-: Okay thanks. I choose expert install and I had a readable selection for the video mode. I choose 800x640 resolution for now and see the installation screen. I hope I can have a better resolution after the installation :<
[17:43] <impossible> glitsj16, thanks a lot
[17:43] <mangavalk> 1 controller is on the mobo the other 4 will be on pcie 2 4x
[17:43] <bekks> mangavalk: Then its nonsense.
[17:44] <bekks> mangavalk: Better get ar real HW controller.
[17:44] <mangavalk> i dislike hardware raid controllers. i prefer mdadm
[17:44] <n-st> hi, does anyone else have heat problems with the 3.13.2 kernel on precise? psensor reports an idle cpu temperature around 50 °C with the 3.11.0 kernel, but around 70 °C with the 3.13.2 kernel.
[17:44] <bekks> mangavalk: Well, your choice then. I consider your setup to be failing by design.
[17:45] <tharkun> mangavalk: Why do you dislike hardware raid controllers?
[17:45] <mangavalk> because if a hardware raid controller fails you need to find a new one of the same type. and mdadm isnt dependable on the controller type.
[17:46] <TJ-> If the hardware controller dies, it is more difficult and expensive to recover quickly especially if budget is an issue
[17:46] <bekks> mangavalk: Have a backup. Then the outage of the controller is irrelevant.
[17:47] <mangavalk> okay. can we talk a little about the backup then? advice for a home user to backup 60 tb of data? (home user / home programmer)
[17:47] <tharkun> Harware has no word. It will eventually fail it is a matter of redundancy that will keep your system (as in full information system) from comming to a stand still.
[17:47] <bekks> !backup | mangavalk
[17:48] <bekks> mangavalk: Unless you have a backup, you dont need mdadm, whatever at all - without a backup your data can be safely considered to be not worth to be kept.
[17:48] <mangavalk> thanks. i will take a look at them. for 60 tb tape drive is the only way to backup right?
[17:48] <bekks> No.
[17:48] <bekks> There are no tapes that size.
[17:49] <mangavalk> i have seen tape drives that store ~23 tb, so if i use multiple it would be fine right?
[17:49] <MeepDude> hi
[17:49] <MeepDude> Hi I have been following this guide for the past hour http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php and am still not able to copy from my schools remote server to my local.
[17:49] <bekks> mangavalk: There are no such tapes.
[17:50] <bekks> mangavalk: Even LTO6 is about 2.5TB only.
[17:50] <mangavalk> okay, i dont have much expirience on tape drive backup and large system backups. what would be a good way to backup 60tb?
[17:51] <maveas> MeepDude: Need help?
[17:51] <MeepDude> yes
[17:51] <MeepDude>  scp your_username@remotehost.edu:foobar.txt /some/local/directory
[17:51] <tharkun> mangavalk: how do you store 60tb of data today?
[17:51] <MeepDude> i am following that command inserting my own stuff but it says my local directory doesn't exist
[17:51] <bekks> mangavalk: A full blown backup solution, capable of different staging areas and a tape library with at least 4 drives. Calculate with about 30k$ for the hardware only.
[17:52] <maveas> MeepDude: You need username@host.tld:/path/to/file
[17:52] <mangavalk> i dont store it now, its a upgrade plan. at the moment i store ~20 tb on raid 5, will move soon to raid 6
[17:52] <tharkun> MeepDude: ls /some/local/directory
[17:52] <compdoc> mangavalk, cheapest way is backup to anther 60TB array. Tape is cool, but too small and expensive for that
[17:52] <MeepDude> okay let me try it
[17:52] <bekks> mangavalk: That doesnt affect the above.
[17:53] <MeepDude> scp vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:foobar.txt /home
[17:53] <MeepDude> no such file exists
[17:53] <MeepDude> on the remote i created foobar.txt but it will not copy over
[17:53] <mangavalk> 30k$ wouldnt be affordable for me. side note: arround 1tb must have daily backup. the other can have a backup one a month.
[17:53] <maveas> MeepDude: vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:/home/vum646/foobar.txt .
[17:54] <bekks> MeepDude: scp user@remoteserver:/full/path/to/your/file.txt /home/localuser/
[17:54] <maveas> MeepDude: You need to specify the entire path on the remote server
[17:54] <whoever> MeepDude: what about file/folder permissions
[17:54] <tharkun> MeepDude: your line forces foobar.txt to be on the users home directory to be able to copy it. and unless you are root you will not be able to write it to /home
[17:55] <bekks> mangavalk: If you cant afford 30k$ for those tapes, just forget about them. And since you want up to 60tb to be backuped, you need at least 60tb backup space.
[17:55] <tharkun> try to copy it to ./
[17:55] <MeepDude>  scp vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:/home/vum646/foobar.txt /home vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu's password:  /home/foobar.txt: No such file or directory
[17:55] <mangavalk> would a second raid 6 array (duplicate) be a good backup place?
[17:55] <bekks> MeepDude: That error message cant be produced by the command given.
[17:55] <MeepDude> ugh
[17:55] <tharkun> MeepDude: try vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:foobar.txt ./
[17:55] <whoever> MeepDude: onec again you need to be root to do it , or be the owner of that directory
[17:55] <TLF> hello
[17:56] <Gnarl> yo
[17:56] <Gnarl> why is ubunut so awful?
[17:56] <bekks> MeepDude: you need a second computer, second array, etc.
[17:56] <whoever> Gnarl: how is it
[17:56] <TLF> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6938560/
[17:56] <mangavalk> gnarl: ubuntu isnt awfull....
[17:56] <bekks> MeepDude: that was for mangavalk
[17:56] <TLF> problem is output file is empty :( what to do?
[17:56] <bekks> mangavalk: you need a second computer, second array, etc.
[17:57] <MeepDude> okay now it says it copied foobar but where?
[17:57] <mangavalk> bekks: so a duplicate system + array would be a good backup? (rsync)
[17:57] <maveas> MeepDude: So.. you need to specify the entire path, where your user have access to. If in home folder that is /home/username/foobar.txt
[17:57] <tharkun> MeepDude: type pwd
[17:57] <gcleric> @Gnarl... try Windows 8.1 for awhile... that's an awful OS.
[17:57] <MeepDude> it is /home/vum646
[17:57] <maveas> gcleric: :D ^
[17:57] <tharkun> that will tell you your present working directory that is where that line copied it.
[17:58] <bekks> mangavalk: It would be a usable backup space - it's quality depends on your backup strategy. And for 60tb, thats nothing that can be discussed in a few minutes.
[17:58] <TLF> please can anyone help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6938560/
[17:58] <tharkun> MeepDude: ls will show the list of all the files on your machine
[17:58] <MeepDude> so in full what should i type, on my local i have a folder /FORTRAN inside /home/wesley/Home/
[17:58] <bekks> MeepDude: I gave you an example.
[17:59] <tharkun> TLF /tmp/fmtutil.ajbje5zN pon lo en un pastebin. Desconozco más de ese programa
[17:59] <mangavalk> bekks: thanks. one last question, what is the change a sata controller will fail?
[17:59] <MeepDude> no i get that but look what happened
[17:59] <MeepDude> scp vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:foobar.txt ./home/wesley/Home/FORTRAN vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu's password:  ./home/wesley/Home/FORTRAN: Not a directory
[17:59] <bekks> mangavalk: Depends on your hardware, etc.
[17:59] <TLF> tharkun: el problema es que ese fichero, está vacío :(
[17:59] <n-st> maveas: what makes you think you need an absolute path to scp from your remote home directory?
[17:59] <Tailkinker> Got a sound card issue:  Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (CA0110-IBG) not working.
[17:59] <bekks> MeepDude: Thats not even near the example I gave you.
[17:59] <maveas> n-st: makes it easier for the noob.. it thought..
[17:59] <maveas> s/it/I
[17:59] <mangavalk> bekks: highpoint rocketraid. i think it is a good brand.
[18:00] <whoever> MeepDude:  sudo scp <username:password@ipaddress/path/tofile>  /pathe to where you want to store it
[18:00] <tharkun> TLF: empieza de cero otra vez
[18:00] <n-st> maveas: err... nope.
[18:00] <maveas> n-st: whatever
[18:00] <bekks> mangavalk: Highpoint are the worst controllers ever. ever ever ever.
[18:00] <TLF> tharkun: como?
[18:00] <RPTN> mangavalk,  for the risk of getting rocks thrown at me, google freenas, build your own, duplicate the drives, backup via the lan. The drives will cost you the most.
[18:00] <n-st> maveas: his home dir might not even be in /home, depending on what wicked config the school uses
[18:00] <tharkun> TLF: Repite el proceso desde cero
[18:00] <mangavalk> bekks: oh really?! :(
[18:00] <TLF> tharkun: ok
[18:00] <bekks> mangavalk: Get hardware raid controllers.
[18:00] <MeepDude> bekks i tried that and it didn't work
[18:00] <bugtraq> MOTHERFUCKERS
[18:00] <bugtraq> I WILL SUCK MY DICK IN YOUR ASS
[18:01] <mangavalk> what is a good brand for sata controllers?
[18:01] <bekks> MeepDude: You did not, at least you didnt post it in here.
[18:01] <bugtraq> YOU ALL WILL BE HACKED  NOW
[18:01] <bekks> MeepDude: LSI e.g.
[18:01] <maveas> n-st: You don't need to tell me.. I was just guessing which might have been a lot easier to help him..
[18:01] <kongthap> what is this error about??? http://i.cubeupload.com/yZRSpy.png, i keep seeing it for a few days (13.04)
[18:01] <bekks> kongthap: 13.04 is EOL.
[18:01] <whoever> bekks: where is MeepDude getting stuck on this
[18:02] <bekks> whoever: On the correct syntax for scp.
[18:02] <whoever> MeepDude:  can you ssh to the box
[18:02] <bekks> whoever: Yes.
[18:02] <MeepDude> i am sshed in
[18:02] <mangavalk> bekks: so highpoint sucks, which brand should be userd? lsi/3ware?
[18:02] <MeepDude> bekks scp vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:foobar.txt /home/wesley vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu's password:  /home/wesley: No such file or directory
[18:02] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I need some help mounting my Windows partition under Linux.
[18:02] <bennypr0fane> here's my /etc/fstab and blkid: http://pastie.org/8736684
[18:02] <bennypr0fane> line 13 is the same I use to mount this partition under LMDE on the same laptop, except the LMDE one has UUID instead of the LABEL. I also tried that first in Petra, but it didn't work so now I replaced it with LABEL, which isn't working either. I must have gone through those man pages like a dozen times now, but values for options, dump and pass are just different each time, I can't figure out which ones I need.
[18:02] <bekks> mangavalk: I just told you.
[18:02] <MeepDude> so again i ran the thing but nope
[18:02] <kongthap> bekks, what is EOL? :(
[18:02] <bekks> MeepDude: Thats not even near the example I gave you.
[18:02] <bekks> kongthap: 13.04
[18:03] <maveas> MeepDude: do locate foobar.txt on the remote box (or if you are in the current directory where the file is located do a pwd)
[18:03] <maveas> MeepDude: Then use that path to the remote server on scp
[18:03] <mangavalk> bekks: thanks. didnt see it. so much messages here. il look at them
[18:03] <tharkun> MeepDude: You will eventually need to read the man page of scp with man scp that will give you all the possibilities to play with it
[18:04] <maveas> MeepDude: Make sure you are in a directory with write access on your local computer/terminal and then do the scp there. (scp username@remote:/path/foobar.txt .)
[18:04] <MeepDude>  scp vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:/home/vum646/foobar.txt /home/wesley
[18:04] <maveas> MeepDude: The . (dot) means current directory
[18:04] <MeepDude> and i tried the locate and nothing came up
[18:04] <bekks> MeepDude: Do that from your local computer.
[18:04] <kongthap> bekks, i must upgrade or what?
[18:04] <bekks> kongthap: Yes.
[18:04] <Gnarl> Where's you learn your trade you stupid fucking cunt? Who ever told you you could work with men?
[18:04] <maveas> MeepDude: Did you want to download a remote file or upload a local file?
[18:05] <kongthap> bekks, this is normal for version which isn't LTS right?
[18:05] <bekks> Gnarl: Can you please watch your language?
[18:05] <MeepDude> so download from remote to local
[18:05] <bekks> kongthap: Thats notmal for 13.04, which is end of life meanwhile, yes.
[18:05] <maveas> MeepDude: Does the file exist on the remote host?
[18:05] <MeepDude> and again nothing is working
[18:05] <AmbiguousOutlier> how do I check what graphics I'm using?
[18:05] <bekks> MeepDude: No. scp from remote to local.
[18:05] <MeepDude> yes i checked the file dose
[18:05] <bekks> MeepDude: Define "nothing is working".
[18:05] <maveas> MeepDude: Do you have read access to the remote file?
[18:05] <kongthap> bekks, i meant if i upgrade to 13.10 one day it will be EOL too right?
[18:06] <bekks> kongthap: 13.10 isnt EOL yet.
[18:07] <MeepDude> i don;t know whether i have read access
[18:07] <whoever> MeepDude: is there a max num of concurrent log on-s allowed for that account on the server
[18:07] <bekks> MeepDude: then ssh into the remote server and check that.
[18:07] <MeepDude> still everything i amtrying is not coppying it over to my local
[18:07] <MeepDude> i am sshed in
[18:07] <whoever> MeepDude: what is the ipaddress and directory of the remote box
[18:07] <bekks> MeepDude: From where did you try to scp?
[18:07] <bekks> whoever: It doesnt matter which IP it is.
[18:07] <MeepDude> my virtual machine
[18:08] <zerooneone> i changed the timezone with `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` and the time and date was fine until i rebooted. how do i keep the timezone over reboots?
[18:08] <whoever> bekks: it does if it is a school server he is tring to hit and he is at home
[18:08] <zerooneone> i'm usinging ubuntu precise btw
[18:08] <MeepDude> i am at home
[18:08] <whoever> bekks: i was gonna give him the entire line - user and pass
[18:09] <bekks> whoever: HE got that several times now.
[18:09] <whoever> ah
[18:09] <MeepDude> yes and each time it didn't  work bekks
[18:09] <MeepDude> it is probably the schools doing
[18:09] <bekks> MeepDude: because you used the wrong syntax all the time - as had been said all the time.
[18:09] <MeepDude> where did my syntax go wrong
[18:09] <MeepDude> i used it exactly like you showed me
[18:10] <bekks> MeepDude: Until the last command, it was all wrong all the time.
[18:10] <whoever> MeepDude: if you can ssh then you can set up filezilla and just use a gui
[18:11] <MeepDude> scp vum646@elk01.cs.utsa.edu:/home/vum646/foobar.txt /home/wesley this is right?
[18:12] <bekks> MeepDude: Yes.
[18:12] <bekks> MeepDude: IF that file exists on the remote server and IF you have access to it.
[18:13] <MeepDude> thanks whoever
[18:13] <MeepDude> bye
[18:14] <AmbiguousOutlier> hello, how do i detect what graphics i'm using
[18:14] <AmbiguousOutlier> Mine, says driver unknown
[18:14] <bennypr0fane> nobody savvy with /etc/fstab here?
[18:15] <bekks> bennypr0fane: Just ask your question :)
[18:16] <chro> I was upgrading a server and something happened and the connection went down. I started a new session and tried to perform an update and I got the following message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:16] <chro> is there something I can do about it ?
[18:16] <SchrodingersScat> bekks: bennypr0fane did a while back.
[18:17] <SchrodingersScat> chro: sounds like the old one is still going
[18:17] <chro> SchrodingersScat: I think it is stuck... It has passed almost an hour
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> chro: were you running it in screen?
[18:18] <tica> alguém brasileiro?
[18:19] <chro> SchrodingersScat: what do you mean? I was running it through putty, but I already reset the connection
[18:19] <demophobia> Does gedit have a keyboard shortcut to view next and previous tab, like firefox?
[18:19] <tica> someone from BRASIL?
[18:21] <tica> I  need help :(
[18:22] <morsnowski> tica: we're from planet python :)
[18:22] <morsnowski> just ask in english
[18:22] <ruben23> hi there guys i have ubuntu desktop when i plug in the headset the mic have very load echo sound very bad quality audio any idea how to correct this..?
[18:22] <humbag> bennypr0fane: your fstab looks good and dump and pass don't seem to matter, what is output of sudo mount -a
[18:24] <Mad-Professor> hi guys
[18:24] <bennypr0fane> humbag, sudo mount -a? returns nothing
[18:24] <n-st> chro: i assume you were using apt-get to upgrade, right? if so, run pgrep apt-get -- if it doesn't produce any output, apt-get terminated when the connection was lost and you'll have to clean up the lockfile and try again
[18:25] <chro> n-st: yes, with the --y option.
[18:25] <FuuqUmiist> how do you extract a rar file
[18:25] <chro> ok
[18:25] <n-st> FuuqUmiist: man unrar
[18:25] <bekks> bennypr0fane: mount -a is not supposed to return something
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> !rar | FuuqUmiist
[18:26] <bennypr0fane> bekks well humbag asked for it, I don't know why
[18:27] <Mad-Professor> i have uploaded my kern.log
[18:28] <humbag> it should return an error if something is wrong in /etc/fstab, are you still trying to mount Acer?
[18:28] <Mad-Professor> i am not sure but it may look not right - i have been playing around with ubuntu
[18:28] <bennypr0fane> humbag: yes. no error returned
[18:28] <chro> n-st: I get 9817 as output
[18:29] <Mad-Professor> i need my laptop to be cleaned up
[18:29] <n-st> chro: ok, looks like your upgrade is still runnning
[18:29] <Mad-Professor> any suggestions please?
[18:29] <humbag> bennypr0fane: sounds like it is mounted, mount | grep Acer
[18:29] <ruben23> hi there guys i have ubuntu desktop when i plug in the headset the mic have very load echo sound very bad quality audio any idea how to correct this..?
[18:29] <Mad-Professor> any other logs to be uploaded??
[18:29] <chro> n-st: it is stuck I want to kill it and restart everything
[18:30] <n-st> chro: alright, then pkill -x apt-get
[18:30] <chro> n-st: is it safe to do it?
[18:30] <ErekJ> !pastebin
[18:30] <n-st> that will send it SIGTERM, so it will have a chance to clean up its lockgile
[18:31] <bennypr0fane> humbag, yes, it's there
[18:31] <bennypr0fane> it's jsut that some applications can't access it
[18:31] <chro> n-st: is it safe?
[18:31] <greedo> hi Gnar
[18:32] <chro> to kill the process
[18:32] <bennypr0fane> specifically, I have my Dropbox folder on it and music files. Dropbox can't find it though, and Banshee doesn't see the music files
[18:32] <n-st> chro: pkill should be alright, just don't pkill -9 it
[18:33] <bennypr0fane> I have to point both there again after each reboot
[18:33] <chro> ok I think it worked
[18:33] <chro> I will try to sudo apt-get upgrade again
[18:33] <ice9> how  to unpack .img file, its Android boot.img?
[18:33] <chro> I'm getting the same error: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[18:34] <chro>  pgrep apt-get -- does not return anythong as output
[18:34] <n-st> ice9: .img files are usually not packed, they're just bitwise copies of a filesystem
[18:34] <pc_magas> Hello I have a vps with 2 interfaces 1 having an ipv4 and one having an ipv6
[18:34] <pc_magas> but I cannot connect to ipv6 addresses
[18:35] <ice9> n-st: I need to edit its content
[18:36] <n-st> ice9: you should be able to mount it to access the files within
[18:36] <chro> n-st: any suggestion?
[18:36] <n-st> chro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem
[18:36] <ice9> n-st: mount needs the file system type which I don't know!
[18:36] <pc_magas> pinging ipv6.google.com leads to nowhere but pinging to google.com works
[18:36] <chro> thanks
[18:36] <humbag> bennypr0fane: getting out of my experience, sounds like a problem with those applications, or symlinks handled differently, or they come up before the mount? sorry i'm out of ideas
[18:37] <AmbiguousOutlier> what integrated graphics does xeon e3 1230v2 have?
[18:37] <n-st> ice9: android usually uses yaffs
[18:37] <ice9> n-st: yeah but its not supported by Ubuntu
[18:37] <bennypr0fane> humbag thanks anyway
[18:38] <chro> n-st: is it safe to reboot the system if an upgrade has not been completed?
[18:38] <n-st> ice9: google "ubuntu mount yaffs", first result: http://askubuntu.com/questions/234258/how-to-mount-a-yaffs2-filesystem
[18:39] <ruben23> hi there guys i have ubuntu desktop when i plug in the headset the mic have very load echo sound very bad quality audio any idea how to correct this..?
[18:39] <ruben23> any idea guys..please
[18:39] <n-st> chro: what did you (try to) upgrade?
[18:39] <chro> n-st: not sure. just performed sudo apt-get upgrade --y
[18:40] <n-st> chro: take a look in /var/log/apt/history.lo
[18:41] <chro> ok
[18:41] <n-st> s/\.lo$/.log/
[18:43] <chro> http://pastebin.com/reaCvFyg
[18:44] <AmbiguousOutlier> how do i find hd p4000 drivers?
[18:46] <n-st> chro: looks like you haven't upgraded that system for a while...
[18:46] <chro> yes. I think I will just remove the lock
[18:46] <chro> and try to upgrade again
[18:47] <navi_> hello
[18:47] <navi_> i have a problem whit my network connection, does anyone can help me?
[18:47] <n-st> chro: yes, try that. do not reboot the system, it appears you tried to update apt, so that might break things
[18:48] <n-st> navi_: _what_ problem do you have?
[18:48] <tux_> navi, hi
[18:48] <ice9> how to know the filesystem type of in .img file?
[18:48] <Prest0> hi
[18:48] <Prest0> how its called the package manager in ubuntu?
[18:48] <navi_> my Internet connection is too slow
[18:48] <bekks> ice9: you have to know how that .img is actually structured before.
[18:49] <AmbiguousOutlier> does anyone else use a xeon cpu? Integrated graphics don't seem to be working
[18:49] <ice9> bekks: I didn't make it, can I still able to know now?
[18:50] <navi_> i trying disable ipv6, but it doesn't disable for some reason...
[18:50] <bekks> ice9: You have to know more about the content, so you have to ask the one who created it how it was created.
[18:50] <navi_> how do i can disable my ipv6 in Xubuntu?
[18:51] <Prest0> anyone can tell where is the package manager of ubuntu?
[18:52] <Prest0> this shit is so frustratin
[18:55] <OerHeks> Prest0, you want softwarecenter?
[18:56] <schoppenhauer> Ok. I found (probably) a bug in the alternate installer for 12.04. When using a braille line, the hardware detection crashes. This works reproducably with the virtual USB braille line from QEMU, and when I tested it with a real braille line (unfortunately I do not know the actual type of it).
[18:56] <schoppenhauer> Is it worthwile to file a report?
[18:56] <schoppenhauer> I mean it is 12.04 ... still supported, but old.
[18:56] <DJones> schoppenhauer: Yes, always worth filing a bug
[18:56] <bekks> schoppenhauer: Regurlarly updated, etc - it isnt old.
[18:56] <chro> after removing the lock I still get "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)"
[18:57] <chro> damn it
[18:57] <DJones> schoppenhauer: Although its 12.04, it may be carried forward into 14.04 so definatly worth reporting
[18:57] <n-st> chro: are you executing apt-get with root privileges?
[19:00] <n-st> ice9: you can try fdisk -l image.img
[19:00] <FuuqUmiist> how do i make a shortcut to open a file on the panel? thanks
[19:00] <n-st> if the .img is an image of the entire drive (not just a single partition), you might find a mbr with partition information
[19:00] <chro> n-st: yes
[19:01] <chro> I performed " sudo apt-get update"
[19:01] <Prest0> this is a shit
[19:01] <Prest0> why everything is so complicated in linux
[19:01] <chro> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[19:01] <uporot> zlatko, hi
[19:02] <n-st> chro: that's odd... did you do sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock as per the askubuntu question i linked?
[19:02] <uporot> zlatko, hi
[19:03] <Hans-Martin> I'm looking for a display manager that can do autologin with timeout every time (not just on the first start, but also after a session has been ended)  and with a fixed session (not remembering the previous session). lightdm does not do the things in parentheses as far as I have found out.. Any idea?
[19:03] <chro> no. I did "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" and "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" as the link you mentioned
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> chro  make sure no other apt manager is open, and/or use    sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[19:04] <Prest0> anyone know how to install a shit called "nodejs" ¿? its not in the package manager and i just dont know how to install shits aside of "one click"
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> Prest0  mind your language
[19:04] <Prest0> i am a bit frustrated
[19:04] <Prest0> sorry
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> what's nodejs?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> and why do you want to install it?
[19:05] <chro> ok I will try
[19:05] <chro> thanks
[19:05] <Prest0> need it to run a script
[19:05] <Hans-Martin> Prest0: sometimes google helps: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager
[19:05] <Prest0> that uses it
[19:06] <Prest0> Hans-Martin i already read this web and it does not work
[19:06] <TJ-> Prest0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nodejs
[19:06] <Medo> Hello
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> !info nodejs
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> Prest0  what happens when you try to install it?
[19:07] <Prest0> i cant coppy the full error,
[19:07] <Prest0> let me try
[19:07] <Prest0> well, i put:
[19:07] <chro> n-st: thanks. Now I got "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[19:07] <Prest0> sudo apt-get install nodejs
[19:07] <Medo> Jordan_u are you here ?
[19:07] <Prest0> then:
[19:08] <n-st> chro: go ahead then :)
[19:08] <Prest0> "reading package lists... done, building dependency tre... reading state information...
[19:08] <chro> :) ty
[19:08] <Medo> just thinking you may be here :\
[19:08] <Prest0> E: Unable to locate pacakge nodejs
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> Prest0  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[19:08] <Hans-Martin> Prest0: I've installed nodejs from Chris Lea's PPA, so I know it works. If it doesn't work for you it's a PIFOC
[19:09] <Medo> can someone help me to solve that error ?
[19:09] <n-st> Medo: what error?
[19:09] <Prest0> ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[19:09] <Prest0> MonkeyDust
[19:09] <TJ-> Prest0: Have you enabled the "universe" pocket in Software Sources? The archives are split into main, universe, and multiverse, plus partners and a few others, and not all are enabled at install time
[19:09] <blueskies> hello  i just merged 2 partitions into one with gparted and forgot that this made one of my Ubuntu OS root partition # change from  hd1,7 to hd1,6
[19:10] <Prest0> no
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> Prest0  sudo apt-get update, then try again
[19:10] <Medo> n-st: i cannot login to my ubuntu using my username and password and its correct but ubuntu logme out immediatly
[19:10] <blueskies> now when i try to boot i get grub rescue
[19:10] <n-st> Medo: have you tried pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 and logging in at the console?
[19:10] <Prest0> done it
[19:11] <Prest0> still same errors
[19:11] <blueskies> and i have tried some online suggestions on how to boot but no luck   i get unkown file system
[19:11] <Medo> i'm not that professional
[19:11] <Prest0> TJ- when i try apt-get install universe
[19:11] <Prest0> i get
[19:11] <Prest0> E: unable to locate package universe
[19:12] <Medo> n-st: i'm not that professional
[19:12] <Medo> n-st: what can i do using console ?
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> Prest0  is the universe repo active?
[19:12] <Prest0> i dont know what i am doing
[19:12] <Prest0> thats so frustrating
[19:12] <Prest0> windows = click click click
[19:12] <TJ-> Prest0: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:12] <n-st> Medo: don't worry, it will do no harm. if you can log in at the console, there's a problem with your desktop environment. if you can't there's something else.
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> Prest0  click click click makes it vulnerble to malware
[19:13] <TJ-> Prest0: yeah, I've seen that frequently... click, click, click... bang! Reinstall!
[19:13] <blueskies> i am hesitant to use a live cd because i have a multiboot setup and multidrive and i dont want to install grub to the wrong place via live cd   i prefer knowing how to boot from grub rescue which already is at the right drive's mbr
[19:13] <Medo> n-st: actualy it login for seconds then logme out
[19:13] <jozefk> I have nouvea driver and nvidia optimus is working but not good enough, because I see a trail when I am moving the cursor around or anything. do I need the nvidia driver or bumblebee to get this working? or both?
[19:13] <Medo> n-st:  i mean my desktop not console
[19:14] <lukemorrison> Prest0: you need to go into the dash and search for Software & Updates
[19:14] <gulle> #linux
[19:14] <blueskies> any one knows what is the right commands from grub rescue to temporarily boot into my system?
[19:15] <Prest0> wth
[19:15] <lukemorrison> Prest0: On the Ubuntu Software tab, make sure the one related to universe is checked
[19:15] <n-st> Medo: that's odd...
[19:15] <Medo> n-st:  can i upgrade my ubuntu to another version using live cd without internet connection ?
[19:15] <blueskies> i managed to correct my grub.cfg file from another linux OS
[19:15] <Prest0> let me check lukemorrison if i find that
[19:15] <Prest0> i dont see it
[19:15] <Prest0> where is this option?
[19:15] <Prest0> i just see 3 big buttons, "all software, installed, history"
[19:16] <TJ-> blueskies: if you want to reach the grub menu: "insmod normal" "normal"
[19:16] <obje> hi there.. I suspect that my boss is spying the traffic from my laptop and smartphone.. Im concerned about the laptop more ... I use the firms wifi, and I would like to know is there a way to check if someone is spying my traffic
[19:16] <obje> also I would like to know if its possible
[19:16] <Medo> n-st: what is it ? and i was here tonight searching and someone give me url to apply some commands using live cd and it didnt work at all
[19:16] <obje> they to get access
[19:17] <lukemorrison> Prest0: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:17] <obje> to my personal files
[19:17] <obje> via wifi
[19:17] <SchrodingersScat> !enter | obje
[19:17] <Prest0> 12.04
[19:17] <obje> sorry
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> obje  how legal is it to obstruct your boss?
[19:18] <Medo> n-st: you still here ?
[19:18] <n-st> Medo: yes
[19:18] <weems> ubuntu is slow grabbing headers
[19:18] <weems> how do I fix it
[19:18] <Medo> n-st: any suggestions ?
[19:18] <obje> I do not obstruct anybody... I just want to know Im safe
[19:18] <n-st> Medo: that should be possible; you should see an upgrade option when booting from the live cd and starting the installation wizard
[19:18] <lukemorrison> Prest0: I'm using 13.10, so it looks like it's a bit different
[19:18] <weems> ubottu, apt
[19:19] <weems> ubottu, headers
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> weems  use /msg ubottu if you want to try factoids
[19:19] <weems> MonkeyDust, having trouble with apt and headers
[19:19] <Medo> n-st:  i couldnt find that in 11.04 cd it says installing ubuntu 11.04 side by side not upgrade
[19:19] <weems> slows apt installs
[19:19] <SchrodingersScat> obje: they could monitor the network if they want, I'm not sure how they could get to your files unless you have them shared via samba, etc. You could use a vpn if you are worried about your traffic being monitored.
[19:20] <n-st> 11.04 is end-of-life, as far as i know
[19:20] <Medo> n-st:  btw my ubuntu is 9.10 and i know its EOL
[19:20] <n-st> 9.10?! ouch...
[19:20] <Medo> n-st:  lol even my 9.10 :D
[19:21] <Medo> n-st:  sorry i didnt mention that at the begining :\
[19:21] <lukemorrison> Prest0: it looks like you are in the Software Center.  Click on Edit and select Software Sources
[19:21] <obje> SchrodingersScat: is it possible they to monitor the traffic from specific software .. or the specific urls I entered?
[19:22] <n-st> Medo: 9.10 has been EOL for almost three years! anyway, you can usually upgrade one version at a time and from one lts release to the next
[19:22] <SchrodingersScat> obje: Yes, not sure why that would be hard.
[19:23] <\x00> Can anyone recommend me a stable working Gpart for my USB?
[19:23] <n-st> Medo: so you could try 9.10 -> 10.04 LTS -> 12.04 LTS
[19:24] <\x00> All the gparts keep freezing or staying stuck on a black screen
[19:24] <Medo> n-st: if i upgraded my 9.10 to 10.04 can that fix my login issue ?
[19:24] <obje> SchrodingersScat is there a way to check if the traffic is spied, and if Im once spied, could the continue to spy me on my home network for example or elsewhere
[19:24] <obje> ?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> \x00  what have you used so far?
[19:24] <\x00> Hold on let me check the history clicks
[19:24] <n-st> Medo: it could, possibly, but i don't even have a clue where that could come from...
[19:25] <\x00> i went here and tried three different gparts
[19:25] <\x00> http://gparted.org/download.php
[19:25] <Medo> n-st: maybe the natilus has been killed or something
[19:25] <n-st> Medo: you might actually be better off reinstalling the whole thing if you don't have all that much config on there
[19:25] <trickyhero> sorry about that, shoddy internet
[19:25] <OerHeks> obje your boss should spy on you as you are not productive on his wifi
[19:25] <\x00> i486.iso
[19:25] <Medo> n-st:  i just wanna my files insde my home directory :\
[19:26] <\x00> i686
[19:26] <n-st> Medo: you need nautilus for the desktop icons, but it won't log you out when killed. i can only image your window manager is crashing for some reason...
[19:26] <obje> actually im freelanced but I suspect illegal issue... I'm concerned they are stealing my software product and conversations
[19:26] <Medo> n-st:  can that fixed with upgrade ?
[19:26] <SchrodingersScat> obje: I was just talking about their network, anything sent unencrypted via their network could be observed if they want, and can see what connections are made.  For them to monitor you at home they would probably need access to your computer. right?
[19:26] <n-st> Medo: keeping the files in your ~ is easy. install a recent ubuntu alongside the old one and copy everything you need.
[19:27] <TJ-> obje: Use an encrypted VPN from your PC to a server you own, such as with openvpn
[19:27] <obje> So I should not be concerned about using home wife
[19:27] <Medo> n-st:  current now im using the live cd 9.10 :p and i cannot copy or decrypt the home folder :\
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> \x00  start from the beginning, what brings you here, what are you trying to do
[19:27] <n-st> Medo: again, an upgrade might or might not fix the issue. with such an old system, i'd rather go with a clean install. it's quicker and safer than screwing around trying to get the old one back up
[19:28] <n-st> Medo: oh, encrypted?
[19:28] <Medo> n-st:  yes its
[19:28] <n-st> i give up, i have no experience whatsoever with fs-level encryption...
[19:29] <Medo> n-st:  :O
[19:29] <\x00> i am trying to edit the partition to get rid of ubuntu
[19:30] <mojtaba> Hi, does anybody know how can I move certain files based on modification time?
[19:30] <\x00> I know there are other ways like wipe clean ur hd using the terminal
[19:30] <\x00> but that takes time
[19:30] <Medo> n-st:  i dont have any experience at all even after 3 years using ubuntu :\
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> \x00  boot from the live cd or usb, then use gparted to erase the partition
[19:31] <\x00> I did, im using a usb, tried two different unetbootins and pendrive usb installer
[19:31] <\x00> everytime i go to the boot screen i either get stuck on the menu frozen
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> \x00  how did you install ubuntu the first time?
[19:31] <\x00> or with other gparts i experienced black screens
[19:31] <\x00> I used a usb to install ubuntu
[19:31] <\x00> side by windows 7
[19:31] <obje> SchrodingersScat if they stole my e-mail passwords than... there is no way to check connection right?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> \x00  boot from the medium you used the first time
[19:32] <TJ-> mojtaba: "man find"
[19:32] <n-st> Medo: does this help in any way? http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[19:32] <mojtaba> TJ-: Thanks
[19:32] <\x00> Im using the same USB, but... I remember using a Gpart that worked and the gui looked different, I cannot seem to find that specific type
[19:33] <impossible> hi
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> \x00  are you in a live session now? if yes, use gparted
[19:33] <Jordan_U> Medo: Did you ever boot from an Ubuntu *12.04* CD/USB?
[19:33] <impossible> i put two files in ubuntu one, and they both have a refresh button on them. are they done syncing?
[19:33] <impossible> refresh icon* similar
[19:33] <\x00> u mean like apt-get gpart?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> \x00  no, in the menu, choose gparted
[19:34] <TJ-> mojtaba: "-mtime ..." might be what you need as the test, then followed by a move, e.g: "find /path/to/source -mtime 3 -exec mv {} /path/to/destination/ \;"
[19:34] <petzup> hello, i want to use on my asus ul30vt only intel graphic card, soo dont want to use nvidia, is there any way to disable it? in versions like 10.10 i have used vgaswitchhero what about in newest version 13.10?
[19:34] <SchrodingersScat> obje: no idea
[19:34] <Medo> Jordan_U: just 11.04
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> \x00  are you now in ubuntu?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Medo: I'm sorry then, I can't help you if you refuse to follow the advice I've given. Good luck.
[19:34] <\x00> yes i am in ubuntu
[19:34] <mojtaba> TJ-: Thanks, I will check that
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> \x00  and did you install it inside windows (wubi) ?
[19:35] <\x00> no, I did not use wubi
[19:35] <Medo> Jordan_U: u mean that url u send me yesterday ?
[19:35] <\x00> It has its own partition
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> \x00  then why don't you simply boot into a live session? what goes wrong?
[19:35] <\x00> I get to choose to use either windows 7 or ubuntu
[19:36] <\x00> Live session?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> \x00  yes, the live dvd or usb
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> \x00  what you used to install ubuntu
[19:36] <Jordan_U> Medo: I mean that I told you no less than three times, in no  uncertain terms that you *need* to use *12.04 or newer*. You seem unwilling to even try Ubuntu 12.04 or newer and haven't explained why.
[19:36] <\x00> yea I used an ubuntu.iso type of file that converted to usb
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> \x00  ok, then boor from that usb
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> boot*
[19:37] <\x00> That has gparted in there or something?
[19:37] <crf> I am frequently getting disk reading errors when resuming from suspend or hibernate. Any advice?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> \x00  yes, the live session has gparted
[19:38] <\x00> oo
[19:38] <Medo> Jordan_U: you mean using it as live cd ?
[19:38] <\x00> Ok, I will try that, thanks.
[19:38] <Jordan_U> Medo: Yes.
[19:38] <petzup> anyone, have some idea?
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> petzup  about what?
[19:39] <petzup> i want to use on my asus ul30vt only intel graphic card, soo dont want to use nvidia, is there any way to disable it? in versions like 10.10 i have used vgaswitchhero what about in newest version 13.10?
[19:39] <Medo> Jordan_U: i downloaded that version yesterday after burning it i was shocked because it was server version not i386
[19:40] <petzup> i have 15-20w per hour what is really too much in older ubuntu i have about 7-10w per hour
[19:40] <lukemorrison> petzup: Have you tried disabling it in the BIOS?
[19:40] <petzup> i cant
[19:40] <bekks> Medo: there are different architectures: i686 / amd64, and there are different flavors: server / desktop.
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Medo: Then you downloaded the wrong version. Download the correct version from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop .
[19:41] <dwayne> I had an issue on an old Ubuntu 10.04 install where I can no longer access the UI.  So, I'm installing a fresh 12.04 on the system using a different hard disk.  Does anyone know where Network Manager stores VPN settings on the hard disk so I can find the settings I was using on my old system and configure them on the new one using Network Manager ?
[19:41] <Medo> Jordan U: then i got my older version 11.04 on usb i got no init error and i couldnt load it then i returned to 9.10
[19:41] <Jordan_U> Medo: I don't care about anything you do with anything other than Ubuntu 12.04 or newer.
[19:41] <Medo> bekks: i know i noticed it after boot :\
[19:42] <bekks> Medo: No, you just mixed up architectures and flavors.
[19:42] <Medo> Jordan_U: and what can i do after download it and burn it
[19:42] <bekks> Medo: the server version is either i686 or amd64 - just as the desktop version.
[19:42] <Medo> bekks: exactly :\
[19:43] <Medo> Jordan_U: what should i do after that ? download the burn to usb ,,, and ?
[19:44] <bekks> Medo: ...boot it?
[19:44] <Jordan_U> Medo: Boot from it and follow http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html to gain access to and backup your existing files, then use it to install.
[19:45] <Medo> bekks: can i make direct update from 9.10 or that is just for getting my files ?
[19:45] <keksinc> Hello all. I have a problem with my raspi; i cant connect to it from WAN using ssh altough the port forwarding of my router works. I installed openvpn lately and messed around with the iptables a bit, dunno if that might have something to do with the issue. Does anyone have an idea what might cause these problems? I can access other machines in the network from wAN with no problem
[19:45] <bekks> Medo: It is pretty irrelevant for your issue - but you cannot directly update.
[19:46] <petzup> how can i get rid of email icon in taskbar on ubuntu 13.10?
[19:46] <petzup> its between network and battery icon
[19:46] <Medo> bekks: so im gonna lose my old ubuntu ?
[19:47] <bekks> Medo: As has been pointed out, the 12.04 is just for recovering your files.
[19:47] <bekks> Medo: You lost it years ago by not updating it regularly.
[19:48] <Xuisce1> hi all
[19:48] <Medo> bekks: all of that time i was far of my computer :\
[19:48] <bekks> Medo: 5 years?
[19:48] <Medo> bekks: almost 4.5
[19:48] <codeHammer> quit
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Medo  http://ubuntuone.com/434GupdpZzDds9LCEcPyH5
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Medo  9.10 isnt even in that list anymore
[19:50] <Xuisce1> hello
[19:50] <Medo> MonkeyDust: Mon 28 Dec 2009
[19:51] <Medo> MonkeyDust: the day i downloaded my ubuntu
[19:51] <geirha> Medo: You can do an eol upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, then 10.04 to 12.04
[19:51] <Xuisce1> hi Medo
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> Medo  if you wanted 12 year support, you could've installed win xp   (joke)
[19:51] <Medo> geirha: can u give the 10.04 url please
[19:51] <Medo> Xuisce1: hi
[19:51] <Medo> Xuisce1:  :)
[19:52] <geirha> !eol | Medo
[19:52] <Medo> MonkeyDust: dud $#@$ windows
[19:52] <bumbar> to repair 64 bit ubuntu, i need 64 bit live cd?
[19:52] <bekks> bumbar: yes.
[19:52] <Medo> geirha: yea i know that yesterday :P
[19:53] <lukemorrison> Medo: before upgrading (no matter what method you use), you will need to use the 12.04 or later liveCD to decrypt and back up your data
[19:53] <Medo> ubottu: thanks im gonna see it right now
[19:53] <Medo> ubottu: looooooool
[19:54] <Medo> lukemorrison: so i have t use the LTS version
[19:55] <lukemorrison> Medo: That is correct.  Please read the link that has been provided for you
[19:56] <hoodedice> hello dear friends
[19:56] <Xuisce1> hi hoodedice
[19:56] <Xuisce1> welcome to #ubuntu
[19:56] <Medo> lukemorrison: can i have the 9.10 user interface on 12 LTS ?
[19:56] <hoodedice> As  it so happens, Xorg crashed the system, and I had to reinstall
[19:56] <hoodedice> However the installer assumed everything, and formatted the entire harddriv
[19:57] <hoodedice> I'm coming from windows 8.1
[19:57] <hoodedice> I hear there's a partition that cannot be over written and can reset the PC
[19:57] <lukemorrison> Medo: There are fallback versions, but Gnome 2 is no longer being developed
[19:57] <Jordan_U> Medo: You can use Xubuntu 12.04, which provides an interface very similar to Ubuntu 9.10.
[19:57] <lukemorrison> Medo: You can also try Lubuntu
[19:58] <TJ-> hoodedice: some hard drives can have 'hidden' sectors at the end of the drive, and some pre-installed Windows systems will have the recovery image in it
[19:58] <Gallomimia> hi. i had to do an offline installation from a 13.10 live image last night because the online one kept failing. what can i do to install all the updates that should have gone in during an online install?
[19:58] <TJ-> hoodedice: It's more formally known as the Host Protected Area
[19:58] <Vivekananda> hey everyoen
[19:58] <hoodedice> Is it possible to access and use it on the state I am in?
[19:59] <Jordan_U> hoodedice: There is nothing you can do to a hard drive that will "reset the PC". On UEFI Systems you need to have an EFI System Partition to boot from a drive, but you can delete and remake that partition at any time, or not have one for a drive you don't need to boot from.
[19:59] <hoodedice> In other words?
[19:59] <Prest0> linux suxs
[19:59] <Jordan_U> hoodedice: Are you just trying to get more usable space out of your hard drive?
[20:00] <hoodedice> No
[20:00] <dfcnvt> Any of you know better 'two-factor authentication' for ubuntu?
[20:00] <Xuisce1> Prest0:  Thats not needed for this cahnnel
[20:00] <hoodedice> lol
[20:00] <Vivekananda> in very bad shape I lost unity and now everything is screwed up on 12.04. I stupidly tried to try some ccsm tricks and then said 'ok'  to open gl and after that everything got screwedup. Now I am trying to restart/ setsid unity / unity --replace and what not and nothing works !!
[20:00] <hoodedice> I'm trying to get Windows 8 back
[20:00] <Xuisce1> Vivekananda:  heya
[20:00] <Prest0> i i am frustrated with linux sorry
[20:01] <Xuisce1> Prest0:  no problem
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> Prest0  learnig something new can be frustrating
[20:01] <Jordan_U> Prest0: OK. If you have a specific problem with Ubuntu, feel free to ask about it here.
[20:01] <hoodedice> Prest0: Learn from the idiots like me. After I get my Windows 8 installation back, or get a new one, I'll install Ubuntu again lol
[20:02] <Prest0> i dont success nstalling nodejs
[20:02] <Vivekananda> anyone care to respond
[20:02] <hoodedice> So, is there a way for me to access and use that little EFI partition?
[20:02] <Gallomimia> hoodedice: it sounds to me like you have erased your win8 install. you'll need to reinstall using a disk, the way you installed ubuntu but with that software
[20:02] <Jordan_U> hoodedice: So you're trying to re-install Windows 8?
[20:03] <Medo_> i have one more thing :)
[20:03] <Gallomimia> maybe you should open the disks program and look at your hd to see if there's any partitions with win8 on it?
[20:03] <hoodedice> Jordan_U, yes
[20:03] <hoodedice> Gallomimia, It's not there in Thunar
[20:04] <Jordan_U> hoodedice: You will probably need the Windows 8 DVD to do that then. Just to confirm that you don't have a recovery partition, please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[20:04] <Gallomimia> well, to me that's mission successful. i just erased a win8 install because its owner was complaining about the thing being too slow while it's brand spankin' new. "i got a solution for that and it's called ubuntu"
[20:04] <hoodedice> I see a 511 MB fat32
[20:04] <lukemorrison> Prest0: In newer versions, it's already available in the main repository, but for 12.04, you will need to add it.
[20:05] <Gallomimia> could be a recovery partition!
[20:05] <lukemorrison> Prest0: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49390/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-node-js
[20:05] <hoodedice> 495 GB ext4, and a 4 GB Swap
[20:05] <hoodedice> That's what Im thinking too!
[20:05] <psei> Hello, I am installing 13.10 on a raw partition and since I want it to be bootable, obviously I set the mount point as /boot, yes? (Win7 is bootable from a separate hdd, if relevant)
[20:05] <TJ-> hoodedice: 511MB, first partition, that'll be the EFI System Partition
[20:05] <hoodedice> Yes.
[20:05] <hoodedice> So what do I do now?
[20:05] <Beldar> hoodedice, pastebin the output of that command
[20:06] <Gallomimia> hm. i see one of those too hoodedice. and i know i nuked everything
[20:07] <hoodedice> Here you go: http://pastebin.com/NeiDKQWC
[20:07] <Beldar> hoodedice, If it is gone and you have no reinstall media the vendor probably will sell you a oem disk set cheap.
[20:07] <chro> can anyone tell me what's the last version of open jdk?
[20:08] <chro> I mean is 1.6.0_31 version available?
[20:08] <MoPac> psei: My setup could be slightly different, but I believe in general youo use one partition for the boot/grub files mounted at /boot, and the rest of Ubuntu is in a separate partition mounted at /
[20:08] <hoodedice> Won't it work with any crappy repair disks or something?
[20:08] <hoodedice> Nuked forever?
[20:08] <Medo_> why i got that error when i try to boot from my usb : no init found try passing init = bootarg
[20:09] <Gallomimia> hoodedice: do you HAVE a repair disk?
[20:09] <hoodedice> Should have made one when it was working. DAMN
[20:09] <Beldar> hoodedice, A recovery disk would reload a backup or work on windows still there. You seem to have neither am I correct?
[20:09] <TJ-> hoodedice: It looks like you over-write the entire disk (if it's a 500GB disk), which will have over-written the Windows file-systems
[20:09] <hoodedice> Yes. I am indeed screwed here
[20:09] <jozefk> How do I do this? "Enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories (for bumblebee and nvidia packages respectively)."
[20:10] <Gallomimia> also, the installer didn't assume everything. you clicked erase which was the default. read everything bud
[20:10] <hoodedice> I mean, lol " NO, I do not have a repair disk"
[20:10] <psei> MoPac, so I have to setup the boot, swap, etc partitions myself?
[20:10] <hoodedice> I clicked "Delete unknown Linux partition" which was what I assumed to be my broken xubuntu partition
[20:10] <TJ-> hoodedice: The "testdisk" tool might be able to do partition table recovery, but no guarantee that the Linux install didn't destroy key parts of the Windows file-systems
[20:11] <hoodedice> How do I get that?
[20:11] <Vivekananda> can anyone comnet on my situation ?
[20:11] <MoPac> psei: What is the install method you are using?
[20:11] <Vivekananda> even alt tab does not work :(
[20:11] <TJ-> hoodedice: see for example http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[20:11] <hoodedice> I
[20:11] <TJ-> hoodedice: testdisk is available from the Ubuntu archives
[20:11] <psei> MoPac, booting from LiveUSB
[20:11] <hoodedice> ll try that out. For now, I
[20:12] <hoodedice> ll boot from a USB just so that I don't overwrite anything
[20:12] <hoodedice> brb
[20:12] <Gallomimia> Vivekananda: i have no ideas for you to fix your problem. but i'm going to suggest immediately backing up any critical documents you have because my idea is for you to reinstall ubuntu
[20:12] <Obiwantje> Question: I installed an application (Double commander, daily build and I-Nex), they both show up on the left hand side on the "quick launch" however both lack an ICON and show a "?" instead - how can I easily change these please?
[20:13] <Gallomimia> Obiwantje: it doesn't fix when you launch the apps?
[20:13] <Obiwantje> Gallomimia, thanks for responding - no it doesn't unfortunately
[20:14] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Create a new user profile, log into that, if that works you know you've got a user-configuration issue on your regular profile, but at least you can work to repair it from a clean stable profile
[20:14] <Gallomimia> try unpinning them and then launching them and then re-pinning?
[20:14] <Obiwantje> (correction I-NEX *did*, but Double commander did *not*)
[20:14] <MoPac> psei: I'm not sure if the newer install steps are different, but I think that the Ubuntu install setup prompts you to make a boot partition and a root partition
[20:14] <MoPac> (as well as swap space)
[20:14] <ice9> how to edit the conetent of zImage file?
[20:14] <psei> MoPac, I see
[20:15] <hoodedice> Whoever gave me that testimage link, could you please give it again?
[20:15] <Obiwantje> Gallomimia, WOW that did the trick! so simple!
[20:15] <Jordan_U> MoPac: psei: Ubuntu has never defaulted to having a separate /boot/ partition, and it rarely makes sense to have one.
[20:15] <bugtraq> n
[20:15] <Obiwantje> thank you so much - I only moved to Ubuntu a month ago from windows, but I am getting so much joy learning out of it already !
[20:15] <Gallomimia> i'm still looking for tips on installing all the 3rd party software and updates that were missed from doing an offline installation
[20:16] <bugtraq> me cuelgan los huevos pa riba
[20:16] <Jordan_U> psei: The mountpoint for you root partition should be '/'.
[20:16] <MoPac> Jordan_U: psei: Ah; my apologies then...I have a dual-boot setup and have always had a separate boot partition, probably because I always ended up using the advanced install disk
[20:16] <Gallomimia> !es |bugtraq
[20:16] <hoodedice> TJ-
[20:17] <Obiwantje> Gallomimia, this may not answer your question - but I was looing at this yesterday: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/new-application-aptik-to-backuprestore.html
[20:17] <psei> Jordan_U, gotcha
[20:18] <|PiP|`> is it possible to edit /etc/shadow directly? ive lost my linux password but have access to the /etc/shadow file. im using ubuntu on a raspberry pi and trying to ssh into it and when i clear out the password in /etc/shadow, ssh login still doesn't work
[20:18] <Gallomimia> Obiwantje: no i don't think it does but it might be useful for my own system which will be getting a fresh install today
[20:19] <Obiwantje> let me know how it works for you
[20:19] <cloneG> hello I would like to achieve this desktop : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftIHTgCuEhs
[20:19] <Obiwantje> I will install as well
[20:19] <Jordan_U> |PiP|`: How are you accessing the /etc/shadow?
[20:19] <Gallomimia> i'm a little skeptical because my current install has a lot of broken packages in it. one of the reasons i'm doing a clean install instead of copying the install over to the new drive setup
[20:20] <|PiP|`> Jordan_U: sorry, im using a beaglebone black, not raspberry pi. its on an sdcard
[20:20] <Gallomimia> but it also has lots of ppa's and extra installs. like a newer kernel and some ati graphics drivers
[20:20] <cloneG> It is not hard to get the sphere and the world images the problem comes when trying to make the sphere smaller and to keep all the opened windows on to it
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> cloneG  not everyone runs a gui with mediaplayer, what's in the video?
[20:20] <|PiP|`> Jordan_U: im mounting the sdcard
[20:21] <cloneG> MonkeyDust compiz
[20:21] <Vivekananda> Iam getting this https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/9024736
[20:21] <humbag> |PiP|`: is this to do with the vnc / ssh issue?
[20:21] <n-iCe> anyone using hdmi with ubuntu? I get no sound in my tv
[20:21] <Vivekananda> TJ how do I create a new profile ?
[20:21] <cloneG> MonkeyDust compiz with wallpaper cube desktop and reflection plugins
[20:22] <TJ-> |PiP|`: when you connect the SD-card to the PC, you can mount the rootfs and chroot into it, and then use "passwd" to reset the password the 'proper' way
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> cloneG  look for ccsm
[20:22] <chro> I installed this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/default-jdk but when I do "java -version" I still get version 1.6.0_27 ?
[20:22] <|PiP|`> humbag: no i've just lost my password that i set
[20:22] <humbag> oh sorry wrong person
[20:23] <chro> am I doing something wrong?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm > cloneG
[20:23] <Jordan_U> TJ-: |PiP|`: Some interesting qemu-foo would be required to chroot into an ARM system from an x86 one.
[20:23] <TJ-> Vivekananda: restart in Recovery single-user mode, then create a new user "adduser <newuser>"
[20:23] <bekks> chro: you have to set your desired jdk as default afterwards, too.
[20:24] <chro> bekks: where was this package installed?
[20:24] <TJ-> |PiP|`: See for example http://tinkering-is-fun.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/running-arm-linux-on-your-desktop-pc_12.html
[20:24] <geirha> chro: that's jdk, not jre, so javac -version
[20:24] <bekks> chro: You said you installed it.
[20:24] <hoodedice> Trying out testdisk now
[20:25] <chro> geirha: right, but it says also the same version for javac
[20:25] <MoPac> Jordan_U: re: boot partitions, are they still required when you have LUKS full-disk encryption for the root partition, though?
[20:25] <geirha> chro: Hm. Ok.  What does   update-java-alternatives --list   output?
[20:25] <chro> I'm not sure if it is the /usr/lib/jvm/defaulf-java
[20:26] <chro> java-1.6.0-openjdk-amd64 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-amd64
[20:26] <chro> java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64 1051 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64
[20:26] <Jordan_U> MoPac: Not strictly required, grub supports LUKS, but yes it's recommended then.
[20:26] <geirha> chro: And what version did you expect to see?
[20:27] <hoodedice> What partition table type do I select in testdisk?
[20:27] <chro> 1.6.0_43
[20:27] <Vivekananda> everyhing is screwed up :(
[20:27] <cloneG> another thing I ve been thinking is there a program similar to keepassx for ubuntu but with a 3d interface instead of key password to lock in? I mean some kind of 3d lock to play with?
[20:27] <bekks> chro: .43 is outdated, too.
[20:27] <Vivekananda> even in new user which I could create from here I got ubuntu 2D but not unity
[20:27] <Vivekananda> :(
[20:27] <geirha> chro: Ah, well precise is sticking with b27 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/openjdk-6-jdk
[20:28] <cloneG> a sort of puzzle perhaps
[20:28] <Vivekananda> seems like  I need a reinstall
[20:28] <hoodedice> ok people
[20:28] <hoodedice> I have three partitions listed here saying MS Data
[20:28] <hoodedice> Lemme take a screenie...
[20:28] <geirha> chro: Any particular reason for not going 1.7?
[20:28] <Vivekananda> there is no way to recover settings?
[20:28] <Vivekananda> reinstall unity maybe?
[20:28] <chro> geirha: this package shows .43 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/default-jdk
[20:29] <chro> right, I will try with 1.7
[20:30] <Vivekananda> how can I reinstall unity ?
[20:30] <cloneG> is there some locking device like that one on smart phones where you draw a figure for ubuntu?
[20:31] <hoodedice> http://pastebin.com/vraehhxF
[20:31] <hoodedice> Any luck for me?
[20:31] <geirha> chro: Oh, didn't notice that at first. Interesting, though that package doesn't really contain any (java) files, it just depends on the "real" package, which is at b27
[20:31] <chro> you're right :\
[20:32] <cloneG> lockscreen it is called for ubuntu
[20:32] <cloneG> but it is possible to use it on desktop pc?
[20:33] <TJ-> hoodedice: That looks promising, although my guess would be that the 3rd partition originally encompassed the space assigned to the last partition (which is now designated swap). But it being a very large FS, you may be lucky if you recover the MS DATA partitions as it stands. My bet would be the first MS DATA file-system will have been corrupted by Linux, and possibly early parts of the 2nd too. It depends how far the install went and how much was installed.
[20:33] <hoodedice> I am thinking in that direction too. But still hoping for the best
[20:34] <|PiP|`> i cant chroot my ubuntu image since raspbx uses ARM
[20:35] <bekks> |PiP|`: Ubuntu isnt actively developed for ARM anymore.
[20:35] <TJ-> hoodedice: how far did the Ubuntu install run?
[20:35] <hoodedice> Complete
[20:35] <TJ-> hoodedice: Desktop?
[20:35] <hoodedice> I noticed the bloop after the reboot
[20:35] <hoodedice> Yes
[20:35] <hoodedice> 1 GB
[20:35] <hoodedice> I think
[20:36] <TJ-> hoodedice: OK... well if you let testdisk rewrite the partition table you at least have a possibility that Windows *might* start.
[20:36] <hoodedice> Uhumm
[20:36] <hoodedice> As far as it can just reinstall 8 or something - I'm happy
[20:36] <TJ-> hoodedice: If not, you can at least use photorec (another part of the testdisk suite) to recover files from the damaged file-systems to another drive
[20:37] <silenz> hi, im trying to install ubuntu on a acer s7-392 while keeping UEFI on. I can only get my usb stick to show up with the 64-bit iso and not the 32-bit
[20:37] <hoodedice> Thank you very much, TJ. I'll try it out and get back
[20:37] <silenz> for some reason ubuntu recommends if i dont ahve a 64-bit amd cpu to use the 32-bit
[20:37] <TJ-> hoodedice: If your supplier doesn't provide a bullet-proof Windows-recovery via a DVD or downloaded ISO, you're out of luck
[20:37] <silenz> but then when i go to ubuntu.com, it defaults to 64-bit installation?
[20:37] <hoodedice> Toshiba. I AM out of luck
[20:38] <silenz> so im assuming 64-bit installation is ok for non-amd cpus?
[20:38] <bekks> silenz: As long as your CPU is 64bit, yes.
[20:38] <rww> silenz: erm, no it doesn't. amd64 is the name of the 64-bit architecture you have. amd invented it.
[20:38] <silenz> oooh
[20:38] <silenz> ok duh sorry im a total newbie
[20:38] <silenz> i thought i had to have an AMD chipset
[20:38] <silenz> thanks
[20:39] <Jordan_U> hoodedice: https://support.toshiba.com/repair has a form for requesting recovery media.
[20:40] <silenz> im really psyched to learn how to use ubuntu and linux
[20:40] <silenz> especially on nice hardware like the acer s7
[20:40] <silenz> only thing is they dont have dedicated F keys wtf
[20:40] <hoodedice> F keys?
[20:41] <silenz> yeh function keys. the ultrabook doesnt have dedicated function keys
[20:41] <silenz> F1-F12
[20:41] <silenz> its funky you have hit a dedicated "Fn" key PLUS F* to get teh function keys
[20:42] <hoodedice> Hmm, same in my laptop when I'm on Windows
[20:42] <hoodedice> I like it better without it.
[20:42] <silenz> oh really?
[20:42] <silenz> i thought it was a new thing acer decided to do
[20:44] <TJ-> hoodedice: If you work with Linux terminals, those functions keys are essential! Horrible having to FN+F? to switch
[20:45] <Fudge> OerHeks
[20:45] <hoodedice> I said I like it without having to Fn to F1
[20:48] <Fudge> oh fudge2 was not me, had to read logs to see what the hilights were about
[20:48] <TJ-> hoodedice: I was agreeing with you :)
[20:48] <Vivekananda> unity --reset started it for me
[20:52] <silenz> do i still need a /boot partition if im dualbooting from windows 8?
[20:52] <silenz> im reading this guide but its not too clear
[20:52] <mega1> is it possable to use ubuntu server 12.04 as a live streaming server
[20:52] <Jordan_U> silenz: You don't need a separate /boot/ partition, but if you are using UEFI then any bootable disk needs to have an EFI System Partition.
[20:53] <silenz> ah ok
[20:53] <Jordan_U> mega1: Yes.
[20:53] <silenz> thanks jordan_U im sure that saved me an hour of "why isnt this working" lol
[20:53] <hoodedice> TJ- Just found this:
[20:53] <hoodedice> https://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=2737864&pf=true
[20:53] <mega1> how
[20:54] <DeusDeceit> Hello everybody, I just installed windows 7 and now i want to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit as well, but when the partitioning program starts... it doesn't show any already created partition (win7 partitions). Anyone knows what to do?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[20:55] <mega1> i want to be able stream from three sorces at the same time
[20:55] <DeusDeceit> that will take a bit, I have to start the installation again. (I'm in windows now) brb
[20:58] <Gallomimia> i'm going to ask this again: how can i get my now-working install of ubuntu 13.10 to fetch and update all of the 3rd party installs that would have happened if i had done an online install from my live-image? i had to do offline because the online style kept hanging and freezing
[20:59] <TJ-> Gallomimia: Are you referring to the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package and its dependencies?
[21:00] <Gallomimia> i'm not even sure which packages
[21:00] <Gallomimia> but i'll install that with apt-get and it probably will do what i want
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: An "online" upgrade is simply downloading the needed packages then installing them (the installation itself is "offline", it no longer requires and internet connection) so I don't see any reason to expect that downloading the packages manually first (as opposed to automatically as part of the "online" upgrade) would change the outcome of an upgrade. Please describe how you tried to upgrade and what problems you ...
[21:01] <Jordan_U> ... encountered.
[21:01] <TJ-> Gallomimia: Do "apt-cache depends ubuntu-restricted-extras" to see the list of packages
[21:01] <John_John_> since i am new to linux what flavor of ubuntu or distro do you suggest to me ? my primary concern is to use linux for learn linux and also for web development.
[21:01] <Gallomimia> i haven't updated anything yet. just the language support that popped up
[21:02] <nikolam> My 13.10 64-bit won't bring up eth2 device (changed motherboard for install) even if parameters are set in /etc/network/interfaces to static.  And network manager applet is working with wireless network on boot and parameters are set,  it is saying "device is not managed"
[21:02] <nikolam> I can bring it up only manually with sudo ifup eth2 , after interfaces is set. but no go on reboot unless manual start
[21:02] <Jordan_U> nikolam: Network-manager is saying that the device is not managed because you have an entry for the device in /etc/network/interfaces. Please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces .
[21:03] <TJ-> nikolam: Probably because you've got a static interface name set in "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" and the new mobo interfaces have alternate names. Try "ifconfig -a" to see which interfaces look active (by their TX/RX counts)
[21:03] <nikolam> jordan, it was saying that even before I put it there. ok.
[21:03] <mega1> i want to be able stream from three sorces at the same time
[21:03] <nikolam> aha TJ-
[21:03] <Gallomimia> John_John_: my suggestion is ubuntu 13.10
[21:04] <John_John_> Gallomimia: should i prefer mint linux instead ?
[21:05] <Gallomimia> i've no experience with mint. it's a fork of ubuntu however
[21:05] <bekks> John_John_: If you like to get support from the Mint community... ;)
[21:05] <Gallomimia> better support here. that's for sure
[21:05] <silenz> ...goddamit
[21:05] <John_John_> ohh i see....
[21:05] <silenz> i got an error message that says... ??? ??? ??? ??? lol
[21:05] <silenz> wtf
[21:06] <Gallomimia> the only times i've ever had a problem getting an answer for my questions were like... after midnight on a friday valentines day :P and new year's eve
[21:06] <John_John_> also i know that 20 million people worldwide use ubuntu anyways
[21:06] <DeusDeceit> I'm back... sudo parted -l asks a question and i don't know the answer. here's the question http://pastebin.com/AzK2GMLe
[21:06] <Gallomimia> yes it's pretty durn good
[21:06] <Gallomimia> then you can get familiar with it, and in 6 months maybe you might like to try a new flavor
[21:07] <silenz> what do i do now
[21:07] <Gallomimia> also i noticed today there's a web builder program in the software center
[21:07] <nikolam> TJ-, it's the only one (eth2). should I just delete old card from /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and leave new one or remove both?
[21:07] <TJ-> nikolam: If you delete both, next time the system starts the correct rule with be re-written
[21:08] <John_John_> Gallomimia: if its not rude to ask here, my other thought was also fedora. can i have your opinion please ? does it have a good community ?
[21:09] <nikolam> that's it TJ- , you are very much great here, you know. :P
[21:09] <Beldar> DeusDeceit, be sure to direct a request to the user that asked by starting with their nick.
[21:09] <Gallomimia> Jordan_U: TJ- thanks for the detailed infos. i think i'm much better off with a manual update here because i preselected a closer mirror. 10 minute download instead of an hour :) i'll install the restricted package next
[21:09] <DeusDeceit> Beldar, I would, but i can't remember who it was :/ and this client doesn't show nicknames that are in the room.
[21:10] <Beldar> DeusDeceit, Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/AzK2GMLe
[21:10] <silenz> is it better to install ubuntu first and then install windows 8 in UEFI mode?
[21:10] <DeusDeceit> Beldar, Thank you
[21:10] <Gallomimia> tab completion?
[21:11] <Beldar> DeusDeceit, No prob a mixed up partition table scenario, no biggie, they are your best help here.
[21:12] <DeusDeceit> Beldar, seems big to me, I have no clue what needs to be done. But if you say it's no biggie, I believe you.
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Beldar: You can use fixparts to remove the stale GPT signatures from that disk, then Ubuntu's installer should handle it properly.
[21:13] <Gallomimia> John_John_: i know little about fedora unfortunately. i've heard they have a decent community too. keep in mind that your decision is not a decision that needs a lot of thought. it *IS* one you can take lightly. it's easy to change between the distros, and it's easy to just install both. also ubuntu has a good way to let you try it out before installing. possibly fedora does as well? give it a whirl and see what you think
[21:14] <Beldar> Jordan_U, That was my thought. DeusDeceit You are removing the gpt remnants still there with this app. http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[21:15] <John_John_> Gallomimia: thanks :)
[21:16] <silenz> has there been any progress on a linux netflix?
[21:16] <silenz> when are they going to get with the program and shed silverlight
[21:16] <DeusDeceit> Beldar, Jordan_U I'll try that.
[21:19] <xenos_> hello all. i broke xserver when changing display drivers and thought it would be good to delete xorg.conf.d and xorg.conf  and now i cant use mouse or keyboard to log in. can someone help me repair xorg?
[21:20] <silenz> come on baby... please work...
[21:20] <xenos_> all i can do is log in as root on recovery mode but i still cant run Xorg -configure
[21:21] <bekks> xenos_: Why cant you un that?
[21:22] <xenos_> saysit cant lock a file
[21:22] <darth> Has anyone here used cairo-docks?
[21:23] <xenos_> bekks it says cant lock file in /tmp/.tX0_lock
[21:23] <darth> Anyone used cairo-docks with 12.04 here?
[21:23] <Dmole> anyone have a STUN server recommendation?
[21:24] <Dbugger> guys, I just installed a fresh version of Apache in my Ubuntu Desktop, so when I go to "http://localhost", I get the default "It works" page, but I was looking at the "sites-enabled" folder, and I couldnt see any symbolic link there. Where is that default vhost defined?
[21:24] <Gallomimia> is there a place i can go to read about kernel version 3.12 getting placed in official repos. timeline and such?
[21:24] <darth> I am getting problems using alt-tab on unity vs cairo.
[21:24] <Gallomimia> usually /etc/httpd/confsgohere
[21:24] <bekks> xenos_: Do you have permissions to do so in /tmp/ ?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: Are you still booted to the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[21:25] <bekks> Gallomimia: It will never be officially placed into repos.
[21:25] <Gallomimia> never?
[21:25] <bekks> Gallomimia: Never.
[21:25] <Gallomimia> are we just allergic to 3.12 then?
[21:25] <darth> Any cairo-docs ppl here?
[21:26] <xenos_> bekks when i am in tmp dir it gives same error
[21:26] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U, yes, and i cleaned up the GTP data (I think LOL) and now it shows some messages about partition 0xEE not starting on sector 1? here's another pastebin. I hope i didn't screw up http://pastebin.com/L217JRDx
[21:26] <bekks> Gallomimia: No. It just will never be placed into repos.
[21:26] <bekks> xenos_: That doesnt answer my question.
[21:26] <darth> cairo-docks alt-tab problems anyone?
[21:27] <darth> Something to do with compiz?
[21:27] <Gallomimia> maybe i don't understand what i'm asking about... i run 3.12 on my system at home. i'm interested to know when it becomes part of the official release. and if never, why not?
[21:28] <bekks> Gallomimia: Because kernels will not updated whenever they are released. For one Ubuntu release, there is one kernel version. The only "official" chance to get a newer kernel is using an lts enablement stack kernel.
[21:28] <Tex_Nick> darth : have you asked in #cairo ? ... channel is not as active as here, however it might be good to post there as well
[21:28] <xenos_> bekks what exactly are you asking me to do in /tmp?
[21:28] <darth> Ok, I will try, thanks.
[21:28] <bekks> xenos_: Checking the permissions of /tmp/ and checking wether you have free disk space in /tmp/
[21:29] <xenos_> i dont know how to find out
[21:29] <Gallomimia> ls -ld /tmp
[21:29] <Gallomimia> df -h
[21:30] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: OK. It looks like at some point you had a hybrid MBR. These are ugly things which are generally only found on Macs where you're trying to dual boot OSX and Windows. Does any of that sound familiar to you?
[21:30] <Gallomimia> xenos_: enter those commands. first tells you permission, second tells you free space
[21:31] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U,  nope, could windows windows 8 installation have something to do with it? I had them installed before this setup.
[21:31] <xenos_> bekks i have free space and ls -ld /tmp gives: drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 45956
[21:31] <xenos_> 45056
[21:31] <bekks> xenos_: Wher do you have free space?
[21:32] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: A normal Windows installation should never create a hybrid MBR. Please pastebin the current output of "sudo parted -l".
[21:32] <xenos_> bekks sda1 where tmp is located
[21:32] <Gallomimia> xenos_: that says everyone has permisssions in /tmp that's good. are you sure you have free space? use df -h to show it
[21:33] <darth> Tex_Nick: No one is replying there either.
[21:33] <Gallomimia> a fair amount? or just a small bit
[21:33] <darth> Tex_Nick: How does it work? are all those users online?
[21:33] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U,  http://pastebin.com/gzyUBNZS
[21:33] <silenz> YES
[21:33] <silenz> it woooooksss
[21:33] <silenz> holy shit this is so cool
[21:33] <hoodedice> All methods of recovering system image for Win8 have failed. I'm thinking of grabbing an iso from the interwebz. Since my key is hard coded within the bios, I dont think I should have any problems
[21:34] <silenz> i feel smarter already :D
[21:34] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: OK, and the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[21:34] <bekks> silenz: No. Obviously, your keyboard does not work correctly. ;)
[21:34] <silenz> lol
[21:34] <xenos_> Gallomimia it says that each filesystem has over 1g of free space
[21:34] <TJ-> hoodedice: Did pressing '0' not work?
[21:34] <hoodedice> It did not lol.
[21:34] <silenz> oh man ubuntu looks so nice
[21:34] <hoodedice> Neither did testdisk, or whatever
[21:34] <TJ-> hoodedice: Nothing at all different happened during boot?
[21:34] <Tex_Nick> darth : yes, but it might take a while for an answer in #cairo ... I understand you want a fast answer ... sometimes it takes a while ... be patient ;0
[21:34] <hoodedice> It tried to load media, but failed
[21:34] <silenz> dual-booting this thing is so intimdating
[21:35] <silenz> im just happy it worked
[21:35] <TJ-> hoodedice: A long shot, but have you explored the UEFI setup for any options that might 'reveal' the recovery partition in the HPA?
[21:35] <Gallomimia> xenos_: maybe the file you're looking at has wrong permissions? run a ls -l on that
[21:35] <hoodedice> I think Ubuntu did overwrite Windy after all
[21:35] <xenos_> bekks it says i cant mkdir in tmp because it is read only
[21:35] <TJ-> hoodedice: It did? OK, that suggests the recovery partition/HPA had been blown away at some point
[21:35] <darth> Tex_Nick: I understand. It's just that I never use cahts of this sort, so I don't know how this works rly.
[21:35] <hoodedice> Testdisk did note a recovery partition that was intact
[21:35] <bekks> xenos_: Then look at dmesg to see why.
[21:36] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/A9fMEu1w
[21:36] <xenos_> bekks dmesg fills my sceen with content i dont understand
[21:37] <bekks> xenos_: Then pastebin that content please.
[21:37] <bekks> !pastebin | xenos_
[21:37] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: OK, oddly enough both of those show that you don't have *any* 0xEE partition, so I don't know what fixparts is complaining about.
[21:37] <hoodedice> TJ-, you think any iso will work it out?
[21:38] <TJ-> hoodedice: I think you have to do a clean reinstall of Windows
[21:38] <xenos_> bekks how do i  use pastebin on a computer i cant even connect to xserver on?
[21:38] <hoodedice> Or do you recommend an OEM? This is a laptop with Win8 pre-installed.
[21:38] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U, So should i try the setup again now?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: Out of an ubundance of caution, please confirm that you can still boot into Windows, then reboot back into the Ubuntu installer and you should be able to install normally.
[21:38] <kgalahassa> hi, is there an application on ubuntu to lock acess to some undesired website?
[21:38] <Gallomimia> xenos_: pipe the output into pastebinit
[21:38] <hoodedice> You have leechlock on firefox.
[21:38] <CyberJacob> Zeelot: W3M?
[21:38] <CyberJacob> Zeelot: sorry, meant xenos_
[21:38] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U, okay, brb again then.
[21:38] <hoodedice> kgalahassa, Sorry, leechblock https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/leechblock/
[21:39] <TJ-> hoodedice: I'd try to get the Toshiba installation/recovery media
[21:39] <hoodedice> Ok. Thanks a lot Tj.
[21:39] <hoodedice> I'll mess around a bit more, and then see how much I have to cash out
[21:39] <TJ-> hoodedice: If you could locate someone else with the same PC, and Linux, they could copy their HPA recovery partition for you to write to your drive... but probably more long-winded than just getting the recovery media properly
[21:39] <xenos_> Gallomimia i cant install pastebinit because i  cant lock //lib/dpkg/lock
[21:40] <Gallomimia> well. that's horrible
[21:40] <xenos_> tell me about it
[21:40] <Gallomimia> try redirecting it to a file and reading that file into... somewhere?
[21:40] <Gallomimia> an email. posting it to a webserver
[21:40] <bekks> Gallomimia: read only filesystem.
[21:40] <Gallomimia> yeah it sounds that way bekks
[21:40] <bekks> Gallomimia: No file to be created somewhere, etc.
[21:40] <xenos_> i cant read or write anyrhing anywhere it seems
[21:41] <Gallomimia> what's the command to list mounts
[21:41] <rww> mount
[21:41] <bekks> xenos_: you can read everything, but not write.
[21:41] <Gallomimia> no options?
[21:41] <Gallomimia> cool
[21:41] <Gallomimia> yep. read what it says when you run mount
[21:41] <xenos_> time to reformat
[21:41] <bekks> xenos_: Why? Is it Windows?
[21:41] <Gallomimia> well. no it should be fixable
[21:41] <Ademan> Anyone know if there's a windows .lnk file parser in the repositories similar to https://tzworks.net/prototype_page.php?proto_id=11 ? (I'd rather use something from the repos over a random utility from the internet if I can avoid it)
[21:42] <Gallomimia> why is your drive mounted r/o
[21:42] <Gallomimia> sure you're not booted from a cd or something?
[21:42] <xenos_> bekks off topic. why does recovery mode boot to read only?
[21:42] <bekks> xenos_: For safety reasons.
[21:42] <Gallomimia> oooh
[21:43] <Gallomimia> recovery mode yes
[21:43] <xenos_> i booted via recovery mode and logged in as root
[21:43] <Gallomimia> you should try booting normally and use ctrl-alt-F4
[21:43] <bekks> xenos_: Why do you have a root password set?
[21:43] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U, Back agian and thank you very much for your help. I tried the setup before restarting, and it did find the windows 7 partitions then closed it and logged into windows. Everything went fine. Now Going back to installing ubuntu. Thanks agian :)
[21:43] <silenz> wahts the best way to learn my around ubuntu? read the user guide?
[21:43] <Gallomimia> gives you a command prompt with no X
[21:43] <silenz> im soooo excited
[21:43] <xenos_> i dont know how else to gegt to command line
[21:43] <silenz> it looks soooo good on this laptop
[21:43] <Jordan_U> DeusDeceit: You're welcome :)
[21:43] <Gallomimia> silenz i'm happy for you :)
[21:43] <DeusDeceit> Jordan_U, laterz :)
[21:43] <bekks> xenos_: So mount your / readwrite. sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[21:44] <silenz> thx :D
[21:44] <silenz> wheres the button to hack the nsa
[21:44] <silenz> is that like a command or what
[21:44] <Ben64> xenos_: log in as your own user, you shouldn't be logging in as root ever, or even have a root password
[21:44] <bekks> Ben64: The recovery mode throws you into the root account.
[21:45] <Ben64> he said "logged in as root" : /
[21:45] <bekks> Ben64: In the recovery mode.
[21:45] <Ben64> starting a root shell from recovery mode isn't the same as logging in as root
[21:46] <bekks> Ben64: He doesnt know how to check free disk space - do you expect him to know the difference between a root shell and the recovery mode? :)
[21:46] <xenos_> bekks ok now i can write. when i run xorg -configure it says number of sceens does not match number of detected devices
[21:46] <Bardamu> Hello Someone managed to install ubuntu in lenovo yoga 2 pro ?
[21:47] <phuh> Question: I'm symlinking a file using `cp -frs` (with -f flag) but it still prompts for overwrite. What should i do?
[21:47] <xenos_> thanks for antagonizing me
[21:47] <bekks> xenos_: I dont want to be unfriendly, I just stated the facts.
[21:47] <bekks> xenos_: Or do you actually know the difference between the recovery mode and a root shell login?
[21:48] <xenos_> well obiously root shell should have rw permissions everywhere
[21:48] <bekks> xenos_: Which is not right.
[21:48] <Bardamu> I have this message when I try to install ubuntu with live usb: (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[21:48] <Ben64> how is any of this helping xenos_ ?
[21:49] <xenos_> do you know the issue with xorg configure?
[21:49] <xenos_> it isnt
[21:49] <kgalahassa> thks
[21:50] <xenos_> number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Bardamu: That most likely means that for some reason the kernel can't access your USB drive, for whatever that knowledge is worth.
[21:52] <bekks> xenos_: Actually you dont even need a xorg.conf when using Ubuntu.
[21:53] <silenz> minor issue, i dont see a boot option menu when starting the laptop, why is that
[21:53] <silenz> shouldnt it ask me what i want to boot?
[21:54] <bekks> silenz: No. You have to configure your bootloader (grub) for asking you.
[21:54] <silenz> oh ok
[21:54] <bekks> silenz: The default is: "Be quiet, dont ask, just boot."
[21:54] <silenz> ok thanks
[22:00] <Blanco__> Re
[22:05] <chrillster> Jag har en vps. Rent hypotetiskt. Om jag kör ett skript som heter flizbox, som kanske någon känner till. När detta är installerat, försvinner tydligen möjligheterna att lägga till ytterligare en user som har access till min eventuella lösenordsskyddade https-sida.
[22:05] <chrillster> Någon som vet något?
[22:05] <Lloople> hi guys, I created a file with wrong content and I need to start my Xubuntu without GUI, how can I do that?
[22:05] <generus> Can anyone help me figure out how to accomplish the hal-* commands in these instructions? I'm on 13.10 and there is no hal-find-by-capability even after install hal/hal-info using apt-get: http://roshansingh.in/blog/2012/12/14/getting-middle-button-of-3m-ergonomic-mouse-towork/
[22:05] <Lloople> I mean, I need to start in command line from GRUB
[22:06] <generus> ..or another way to determine my mouse device name as shown
[22:10] <t4nk295> im having problems with installing Ubuntu in virtualBox..
[22:10] <t4nk295> someone who can help?
[22:10] <glitsj16> generus: have you tried the lsusb command yet to see what that reports?
[22:11] <\x00> i am having problems with connecting my android with usb cord in Ubuntu
[22:11] <smallfoot-> o
[22:13] <darryl> hi all.  I'm running the ext4 file system, but I need to make an image of my hdd for backup.  PartImage doesn't support ext4, so how best can I do this?  I'm a bit of a noob
[22:13] <LeMike> hey there. I took the /etc/init.d/skeleton and like to have selenium running. It was easy to configure but doesn't work. There is nothing running on port 4443 and if I execute "java -jar ..." it runs. but not the service script. why? https://gist.github.com/sourcerer-mike/9025864
[22:14] <\x00> Hey there, I have eclipse with ADT installed to develop android apps, my concern is debugging my created apps on my phone from ubuntu
[22:14] <bekks> !backup | darryl
[22:14] <\x00> Using the android emulator is very slow.
[22:14] <GH0> I have been trying to configure 802.1x on my ubuntu laptop, however, after supplying the CORRECT credentials in the GUI via Network Manager, and via trying to do it via CLI using wpa_supplicant, both tend to fail. When running through the wpa_supplicant method and going through this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication (removing the commented fields) I get errors on Line 1 and Line 11 and it failed to read or parse configuration
[22:14] <GH0>  of the conf file.
[22:15] <GH0> I was wondering if anyone could help me out with connecting to my network. The IT staff only tells me that Linux is a usable OS for this operating system, but has no formal documentation on how to connect, so I am pretty much left on my own accord. :(
[22:15] <darryl> thanks BEKKS and UBOTTU
[22:16] <gordonjcp> GH0: pastebin the errors *verbatim*
[22:17] <TJ-> GH0: Seeing Network-Manager's reports in "/var/log/syslog" when it tries to connect would be very helpful
[22:18] <drax> hi
[22:18] <drax> i am using poisedon linux distro
[22:18] <drax> i have insyalled the most recent nvidea drivers
[22:19] <drax> is working almost all right
[22:19] <OerHeks> drax, what is poseidon linux?
[22:19] <drax> the only problemn is, when i put in the max resolution, the bars keep out of screen (in other words, it's no fit the screen
[22:19] <rww> drax: #ubuntu supports Ubuntu, not unofficial derivatives. Ask the Poseidon Linux folks for help :)
[22:19] <drax> poisedon linux is a distro of linux
[22:20] <\x00> awesome, i found out how to mount my android phone on ubuntu and debug apps from eclipse adt to android
[22:21] <\x00> all i had to do was sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb
[22:22] <u-foka> Hy, does anyone know how to enable the tray icon of skype on trusty amd64?
[22:23] <Beldar> u-foka, trusty is on #ubuntu+1
[22:23] <Akiva-Mobile> im trying to browse code on launchpad. Whenever I go here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~akiva/postgreshell/trunk/files it takes me to the front page
[22:23] <drax> is there a irc channel for general ubuntu quesions? they don't have a irc hannel
[22:23] <Akiva-Mobile> can anyone test this, to see if its just me
[22:23] <u-foka> Beldar, tx
[22:23] <kostkon> drax, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:23] <GH0> gordonjcp, TJ- : http://pastebin.com/CE9hyqL3 I have removed the identify and the password from the wpa_supplicant.conf file
[22:23] <drax> ty
[22:23] <GH0> Mainly for security reasons
[22:24] <Beldar> drax, that release #4 is based on a eol, ##linux ix a general channel.
[22:24] <Beldar> is*
[22:24] <GH0> Well, I see what I did wrong with line 1 though, so discount that.
[22:25] <GH0> Even if I remove the ] the errors still exist, so that isn't the problem
[22:26] <rww> kostkon: #ubuntu-offtopic is not a support channel. Please do not direct users of Ubuntu derivatives to it for support.
[22:27] <kostkon> rww, that's true
[22:27] <drax> i know that is a unofficial distro, but someone is having issues with the most recent official n vidia drivers?
[22:28] <rww> drax: If you want support from #ubuntu, please use Ubuntu. If you are not using Ubuntu, do not ask support questions here, as this is against our channel policy.
[22:28] <drax> a ok
[22:29] <humbag> Akiva-Mobile: i get the front page too,
[22:30] <Akiva-Mobile> humbag: i just checked
[22:30] <Akiva-Mobile> they are doing maintenance
[22:32] <fdel> I'm upgrading from 13.04 (raring) to 13.10 (saucy) and the distribution upgrade hands during the "Installing the upgrades" phases ("setting up cups-bsd"). Is there an easy way to fix that?
[22:32] <fdel> (I haven't rebooted)
[22:34] <TJ-> GH0: I'd stick with NM since it at least ensures the wpa configuration is correct, and monitor the syslog as you make changes to the connection configuration. Without seeing the networks' config it's hard to suggest anything concrete
[22:35] <silenz> it so crazy
[22:35] <silenz> everybody works better in linux
[22:35] <silenz> the mousepad works like a champ
[22:35] <silenz> wifi is super stable
[22:35] <silenz> omg <3 linux :D
[22:35] <RayWizard|2> i try to install steam game to ntfs drive, i get, "New Steam library folder must be on a filesystem mounted with execute permissions", i tried to cheat and symlinking stean folder to folder in ntfs drive but that didnt work
[22:36] <GH0> TJ- I just refreshed the syslog, and now it is stating that the association took too long, and then tells me it ias asking for new Secrets. Finally it makrs the connection invalid, and then deactivates the device.
[22:36] <GH0> If I leave 802.1x off, I can at least get an IP address, and then get to the splash page that tells me that I need to enable 802.1x.
[22:36] <RayWizard|3> i try to install steam game to ntfs drive, i get, "New Steam library folder must be on a filesystem mounted with execute permissions", i tried to cheat and symlinking stean folder to folder in ntfs drive but that didnt work
[22:36] <TJ-> GH0: check the certs and the cert password
[22:36] <GH0> But, I will write up another e-mail to the IT staff I guess going over the situation.
[22:39] <SchrodingersScat> RayWizard|3: I don't think NTFS can execute regardless of what you do, try a better FS
[22:39] <kernel312> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu server and I have problem with the naming of the partitions. I have /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7 which are both 20 GB. During the installation they are identified as #7 and #8. How can I understand which one is #7 and which one is #8?
[22:39] <glitsj16> Akiva-Mobile: i could reach it via https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/postgreshell/trunk ..
[22:40] <Akiva-Mobile> thanks
[22:40] <Akiva-Mobile> glitsj16: ... nope
[22:40] <Akiva-Mobile> anyways its not important
[22:40] <Akiva-Mobile> ill just wait until launchpad is back online
[22:40] <GH0> Actually, I wonder if it is because I have a " in my password.
[22:41] <\x00> I am getting two root canals.
[22:42] <glitsj16> Akiva-Mobile: ahh, i only got the code page, browsing bazaar looks offline indeed, sorry for the confusion
[22:42] <Akiva-Mobile> glitsj16: np
[22:46] <abackstrom> I'm attempting to build my first checkinstall package (nginx, specifically). Does anyone know how I can package additional files into the .deb, that aren't part of the normal make install?
[22:46] <bekks> abackstrom: Build a full blown .deb, without using checkinstall.
[22:49] <ruben23> hi there guys i have ubuntu desktop when i plug in the headset the mic have very load echo sound very bad quality audio any idea how to correct this..?
[22:50] <SchrodingersScat> ruben23: turn down the mic?
[22:50] <ruben23> what you mean turn down the mic..?
[22:50] <ruben23> i lower the mic volume but the oen im calling cant hear me anymore..
[22:52] <TJ-> ruben23: when you connect the headset, are you certain it cuts off audio output to the PC speakers? echo feedback is usually caused by your microphone picking up the speaker output
[22:52] <abackstrom> bekks: Can you suggest a guide? Many of the Ubuntu wiki pages suggest using checkinstall.
[22:53] <abackstrom> It looks like nginx releases their build files on their site. http://nginx.org/packages/mainline/ubuntu/pool/nginx/n/nginx/
[22:53] <bekks> abackstrom: checkinstall is for packaging the "output" of make install - nothing else. If you want to have more file to be packaged, you cant use checkinstal..
[22:53] <TJ-> abackstrom: Use the ubuntu nginx packaging as a template and add to it
[22:54] <bekks> abackstrom: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[22:54] <ruben23>  TJ-: are there any ehanceer or detail se the audio setting and mic for the  ubuntu desktop..or maybe update the driver..? or beter hardware to setup..?
[22:54] <glitsj16> ruben23: have you looked at mic-boost, internal mic (boost) yet?
[22:55] <Scubar> does anyone know where I could possible download the latest kernel bzimage format ?
[22:55] <TJ-> ruben23: If you can record the echo so we can hear it, we may be able to help a little better. There are many reasons for feedback
[22:56] <TJ-> Scubar: Have you looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[22:56] <abackstrom> Thanks bekks, TJ-
[22:57] <black0ut> Hi, I have a question about links in ubuntu. when I have a folder (e.g. /var/www/wordpress) and I put a link to another folder (e.g. /usr/share/wordpress) when the server wants to write data into the folder where (here) wordpress is running.. does ubuntu redirect to /usr/share/wordpress to write the data there or how is that working?
[22:57] <ikonia> black0ut: not re-direct, just accesses files via the link
[22:57] <ikonia> black0ut: think of it as a pointer
[22:59] <black0ut> ikonia: ok, so how do I change permissions so that wordpress can write files (-> I am trying to install a new theme)
[22:59] <black0ut> ikonia: cause /var/www/wordpress is owned by root
[23:00] <bekks> black0ut: sudo cp ...
[23:00] <ikonia> black0ut: chown it
[23:00] <ikonia> black0ut: be VERY careful with permissions and wordpress, a very big and common exploit is theme permissions
[23:01] <black0ut> right now it is running on my localhost in a VirtualBox, but thanks for the heads up
[23:02] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[23:02] <black0ut> ikonia: ..for my understanding: if the link is a pointer, then why would I need to change the rights in /var/www/wordpress instead of changing it in /usr/share/wordpress?
[23:03] <ikonia> black0ut: you change the target, not the link
[23:03] <marshall> I want to forward traffic on my localhost through port 4567 to the same port on a remote host through ssh. what would that ssh command look like? I feel like I'm supposed to use `ssh -L` but I don't think I'm using it correctly
[23:03] <black0ut> ikonia: and shouln't I chown the wordpress directory and all subdirectories to www-data like I have it with my joomla installation?
[23:03] <black0ut> ikonia: ok that makes sense, thanks
[23:03] <ikonia> black0ut: if you want it to be secure, no
[23:04] <black0ut> ikonia: but right now root is the owner, is that fine?
[23:04] <marshall> nevermind! I got it
[23:04] <ikonia> black0ut: root is fine
[23:04] <black0ut> ikonia: ok thanks :)
[23:18] <impossible> what is the difference between the xubuntu session and xfce session after installing apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[23:21] <LeMike> how do I see what my current inotify is?
[23:23] <LeMike> got it. nvm
[23:23] <FuuqUmiist> so how do i make a shortcut to a file on the panel?
[23:24] <FuuqUmiist> impossible probably the design and layout
[23:24] <impossible> probably, Im scared to look because i chose xxfce session and fixed to my likeing
[23:25] <gabriel> hi
[23:25] <gabriel> hello?
[23:25] <yair> whois yair
[23:26] <gabriel> can anyone see my text?
[23:26] <impossible> yes
[23:26] <impossible> gabriel,
[23:26] <gabriel> I'm kinda new o ubuntu, just got ubuntu GNOME on m external hard drive yesterday
[23:26] <gabriel> my*
[23:27] <impossible> pretty awesome! gabriel
[23:28] <gabriel> I've got a question though
[23:28] <impossible> ask away and if i cant help, someone might know the answer here
[23:28] <impossible> ask again later if there is no response
[23:29] <gabriel> If I set up persistence on a usb flash drive with ubuntu gnome, could i edit that flash drive the way I want and then take the files off of it, then make an iso in windows of a customized ubuntu distro with it?
[23:29] <jupiterwalker> hi, I need to update to ubuntu 13.10 x64. I am using ubuntu 13.04 and since I am only have 5gb data plan I would like to know if you may know an estimate of how many GB are required to be downloaded
[23:30] <gabriel> its about 1 jupiterwalker, ~900 mb
[23:30] <gabriel> if i am correct
[23:30] <bekks> jupiterwalker: Depends on how much packages are currently installed.
[23:30] <jupiterwalker> so worst case 3gb
[23:30] <jupiterwalker> I am cool with that
[23:30] <jupiterwalker> I have multiple stuff
[23:31] <jupiterwalker> thx guys
[23:31] <gabriel> If I set up persistence on a usb flash drive with ubuntu gnome, could i edit that flash drive the way I want and then take the files off of it, then make an iso in windows of a customized ubuntu distro with it?
[23:32] <Beldar> gabriel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[23:35] <Beldar> gabriel, might be easier to just make the setup do a dpkg install list any repos....etc and use it on installs
[23:43] <NetCatty> hi
[23:43] <SchrodingersScat> NetCatty: hello
[23:44] <NetCatty> Is there a tool to convert .img to .win? I tried google several times but I cant find anything.
[23:48] <etrope> hi
[23:48] <ice9> how to extract data from file using hex offsets?
[23:49] <bekks> NetCatty: File extensions mean nothing in non-Windows. Whatsthe content of those files?
[23:49] <NetCatty> bekks: its a backupfile from twrp
[23:49] <bekks> NetCatty: Whats "twrp"?
[23:49] <TJ-> NetCatty: "rename '\.img' '.win' *.img"
[23:50] <NetCatty> bekks: recovery backup like clockworkmod
[23:50] <MonkeyDust> what's clockworkmod?
[23:50] <bekks> NetCatty: Then you have to write some code that will convert it.
[23:50] <Beldar> NetCatty, You might ask in #android this is ubuntu supprt
[23:50] <NetCatty> bekks: I have my backup files in img from my cockwrokmod backup but I only have twrp on my phone so I need to convert them to .win
[23:51] <bekks> NetCatty: Then write an application that will convert your backups from one software to a totally different one.
[23:52] <NetCatty> Beldar: I'm currently working with buntu so no its not a android problem. My android wont start, the only backup I have is cwm and my only recovery tool wont accept anything else than .win
[23:53] <NetCatty> bekks: is there no converter for image files? iso to img and backwards works. there has to be a img to win
[23:53] <Beldar> NetCatty, You just need the right tool, in general the android users are using sdk
[23:53] <Beldar> I assume, ;)
[23:53] <bekks> NetCatty: Again: File extensions mean nothing in Linux.
[23:54] <bekks> NetCatty: you need to convert the content, not the file extension.
[23:54] <NetCatty> bekks: alright but with what tool?
[23:54] <TJ-> NetCatty: Ask the clockworkmod and TWRP devs
[23:55] <bekks> NetCatty: With the tool you have to code first. There is no such tool that converts between two so specific backup solutions.
[23:55] <NetCatty> hm