| koell | someone here? | 01:07 |
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| knome | !someone | koell | 01:09 |
| ubottu | koell: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 01:09 |
| koell | knome: im currently on lubuntu and tried xubuntu now in virtualbox. i really like the look and feel the design team of xubuntu create. it looks much better than the default xfce. i would like to install xfce on my lubuntu machine but with the style of xubuntu. is it possible to do that and how? | 01:17 |
| knome | koell, you can install the package xubuntu-desktop to get the "full" xubuntu desktop set of packages | 01:21 |
| knome | koell, note that this will most probably install additional software as well | 01:21 |
| koell | knome: but i can unwanted software uninstall right? so i get the same xubuntu experience with this package? the same desktop, icons, style <3 ? | 01:22 |
| koell | man why does xubuntu look so good <3 <3 <3 | 01:25 |
| xubuntu467 | hi all, does anyone know how to automate handbrake-gtk from thunar? | 01:33 |
| xubuntu741 | Greetings community How I can change the language of all the system to Spanish?. what are the commands on terminal? | 02:47 |
| nanotube | ok so... is it possible to force the update manager to just stick itself into the notification area, rather than popping up? after installing some updates that require a restart, it keeps periodically popping up and saying 'zomg restart', and it did that while i was typing, and whamo, accidental restart. this is undesirable. | 03:33 |
| Unit193 | nanotube: gconf seems to have a /apps/update-notifier/hide_reboot_notification var. | 04:15 |
| nanotube | Unit193: isn't gconf gnome? | 04:32 |
| Unit193 | You can use `gconftool` to set them still. | 04:33 |
| nanotube | $ gconftool-2 --get /apps/update-notifier/hide_reboot_notification | 04:35 |
| nanotube | No value set for `/apps/update-notifier/hide_reboot_notification' | 04:35 |
| nanotube | hmm.... | 04:35 |
| xubuntu772 | hi | 04:57 |
| nanotube | howdy | 04:58 |
| xubuntu772 | how y'all doing? | 04:58 |
| Unit193 | nanotube: I mearly disabled it myself, kept the daemon running for the motd notifications only. | 04:58 |
| nanotube | mm maybe i'll give it a whirl. or maybe just switch to 'activate focus stealing prevention', though that's been too zealous and doesn't bring up even something i deliberately start. | 05:02 |
| nanotube | fwiw, i'd really like the old "icon in panel" approach. why did the have to go and ruin a perfectly good update notification... | 05:03 |
| Unit193 | It's a new "feature", but before release wouldn't even let you close it. | 05:10 |
| nanotube | so... can xubuntu tweak stuff to its own design? or are we mostly stuck with whatever ubuntu pushes? | 05:21 |
| holstein | nanotube: its not so much 'stuck'.. the packages need to be in the repos | 05:23 |
| nanotube | holstein: well i meant, either tweak the config, or have a patched package with desired mods? | 05:24 |
| nanotube | maybe in a special xubuntu-specific repo? | 05:24 |
| holstein | theres not a xubuntu specific repo | 05:25 |
| holstein | just the main ones for ubuntu.. but, the configs get set as needed | 05:25 |
| nanotube | hm so it would theoretically be possible to tweak the default gconf/dconf settings to make update-notifier less insane? | 05:27 |
| nanotube | and while we are at it, maybe document said settings somewhere. | 05:27 |
| holstein | its all open, so literally anything should be possible | 05:27 |
| nanotube | well, anything other than actually modifying the package, it seems. :) | 05:28 |
| holstein | id be ok if it werent there at all. i dont mind manually updating.. you can see where preferences are challenging to deal with | 05:29 |
| nanotube | holstein: sure, but it is easy to do what you want - the gui allows unchecking the check for updates box. | 05:36 |
| nanotube | it is not easy to do what i want, which is to have less obtrusive notifications. :) | 05:36 |
| Unit193 | nanotube: It used to tweak the settings, the settings have been removed. | 05:37 |
| Unit193 | it=xubuntu-default-settings | 05:38 |
| lalopalo | any good guides on getting catalyst driver properly installed on xubuntu | 05:42 |
| holstein | !ati | lalopalo | 05:42 |
| ubottu | lalopalo: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 05:42 |
| lalopalo | ubottu: TY | 05:43 |
| ubottu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 05:43 |
| xubuntu009 | hola | 07:26 |
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| nikolam | I were just going crazy about find using too much cpu and disk | 08:09 |
| nikolam | and i don't remember telling him to index my disks | 08:09 |
| simpleuser | Hi there. My left speaker is dead. Is there a way to tell Xubuntu to put all sounds in the right one ? Like switching to mono instead of stereo ? | 08:58 |
| fibz_ | yes | 09:25 |
| simpleuser | fibz_, ? | 09:25 |
| fibz_ | oh oops. i can because this is Ubuntu Studio | 09:27 |
| Sysi | pulseaudio settings don't have mono in output options? I can't check right now | 09:28 |
| fibz_ | i'd install qjackctl click start, then connect then patchbay then repatch both left and right into the working speaker for now | 09:32 |
| simpleuser | Sysi, don't find any | 09:33 |
| simpleuser | fibz_, wow, the hard way ^^ | 09:33 |
| simpleuser | It seems i found a way : amixer sset Master 100%,0% | 09:34 |
| fibz_ | that will get you going untill you find a better answer. | 09:34 |
| fibz_ | there you go | 09:35 |
| simpleuser | but i'm not sure, i have to find a mp3 that clearly indicates me if i get both sides in my right speaker | 09:35 |
| fibz_ | audacious's visualizer | 09:35 |
| fibz_ | it has a mode that shows left and right separately | 09:36 |
| simpleuser | great, i test that | 09:36 |
| Sysi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTvJoYnpeRQ works on html5 | 09:40 |
| simpleuser | Thanks Sysi | 09:41 |
| simpleuser | doesn't work | 09:41 |
| simpleuser | :( | 09:41 |
| simpleuser | i mean the video works ^^ | 09:41 |
| simpleuser | but i don't have mono | 09:41 |
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| AussieDownUnder | so erm, lack of hotkey/shortcut keys in xubuntu | 12:44 |
| AussieDownUnder | How does one acquire some? | 12:44 |
| GridCube | >settings >keyboard >shortcuts | 12:44 |
| GridCube | also there are lots and lots of the already | 12:44 |
| AussieDownUnder | Need hotkey for terminal, system monitor, bringing up & navigating through the menu with a keyboard | 12:45 |
| GridCube | meta-t | 12:45 |
| elfy | menu is alt+f1 and arrow keys work afaik | 12:50 |
| GridCube | AussieDownUnder, there are many shortcuts already, "alt gr"-f1 will call the menu, ctrl-esc the desktop menu, meta-t will call the terminal | 12:50 |
| GridCube | alt-f2 will call the appfinder | 12:51 |
| AussieDownUnder | What's the meta key lol? | 12:51 |
| GridCube | meta is the windows key | 12:51 |
| AussieDownUnder | Oh, I know it as the Super key, I did look up the other names of it but forgot | 12:51 |
| elfy | AussieDownUnder: some of the default shortcuts 'call' it Super | 12:52 |
| AussieDownUnder | Those don't seem to work | 12:54 |
| AussieDownUnder | I am using the desktop-ubuntu thing for ubuntu | 12:54 |
| AussieDownUnder | Looks exactly like xubuntu & seems same functionality so far | 12:54 |
| GridCube | meta-t for terminal, meta-e for text editor... meta-w for "exo-open --launch WebBrowser" XD | 12:54 |
| GridCube | AussieDownUnder, then you are not using xubuntu | 12:55 |
| AussieDownUnder | Well those last hotkey worked | 12:55 |
| GridCube | ctrl-esc should open the menu in any desktop ever | 12:57 |
| GridCube | well, maybe not "ever" | 12:57 |
| AussieDownUnder | Brings up what would come up when you right click the desktop | 12:57 |
| GridCube | yes, and the last entry is the appmenu | 12:58 |
| koell | how to get rid of the shortening behaviour with the dots ... ? | 13:16 |
| AussieDownUnder | All of the extra thinking & responsibility of involved in using xubuntu is somehow making me smarter. | 13:47 |
| AussieDownUnder | except I can't type | 13:47 |
| starrats | I've installed irssi on terminal, so how do I get to work? | 14:23 |
| starrats | currently using weechat | 14:24 |
| Sysi | run it, connect to networks, join to channels | 14:25 |
| Sysi | /connect chat.freenode.net ; /j #xubuntu | 14:25 |
| Arpad2 | I have some re-occurring problems with the panel menu button freezing and not reacting on mouse click | 14:40 |
| SirLagz | anyone had any issues unable to login to xfce ? I can login to OpenBox but not XFCE | 14:42 |
| SirLagz | xfce just dumps me back to the greeter | 14:43 |
| flux242 | does anybody tried trusty tahr based xubuntu distro? | 14:48 |
| elfy | flux242: yes | 14:48 |
| flux242 | are you on it now? | 14:49 |
| xubuntu488 | hello everybody | 14:50 |
| xubuntu488 | =) | 14:50 |
| elfy | flux242: yes I am - but if you've got questions about it that are 'support' then either #xubuntu-devel or #ubuntu+1 please | 14:50 |
| flux242 | elfy: no, can you peform a simple test for me? | 14:51 |
| elfy | flux242: perhaps | 14:51 |
| flux242 | elfy: I just want to know if the case insensitive search for non english file names works in the catfish 1.0 | 14:51 |
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| elfy | flux242: I've not got any non-english filenames that I know of | 14:52 |
| SirLagz | DEBUG: Seat: Stopping display server, no sessions require it | 14:52 |
| SirLagz | oops | 14:52 |
| SirLagz | Anyone know why i would be getting that sort of message when I try to login to XFCE ? | 14:52 |
| flux242 | elfy: do you speak english only? | 14:53 |
| elfy | I'm afraid so | 14:53 |
| flux242 | elfy: well can you create files with the following file names (semicolon separated) then (just copy/paste): Тест;тест | 14:56 |
| flux242 | elfy: and then searh for: тест | 14:56 |
| elfy | flux242: appeared to work here | 15:01 |
| flux242 | elfy: so has it found 2 files? | 15:02 |
| elfy | no it found one | 15:02 |
| flux242 | elfy: then it doesn't work | 15:03 |
| flux242 | elfy: ok, thanks, I'll file a bug on the launchpad then | 15:04 |
| elfy | ok | 15:04 |
| flux242 | elfy: If you create 2 files: test;Test and search for test it finds 2 files | 15:05 |
| elfy | yep - I can confirm bug when you report it | 15:06 |
| flux242 | elfy: I've created the bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bug/1280607 | 15:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1280607 in Catfish "Case insensitive search for non english file names doesn't work" [Undecided,New] | 15:25 |
| flux242 | elfy: please specify catfish version you use | 15:26 |
| elfy | flux242: all done | 15:27 |
| flux242 | elfy: thanks | 15:27 |
| wrongplace | what is a size mismatch? how do I fix it? | 15:30 |
| wrongplace | W: Failed to fetch http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/desktop/xUbuntu_13.10/./amd64/libowncloudsync0_1.5.1_amd64.deb | 15:30 |
| wrongplace | Size mismatch | 15:30 |
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| wrongplace | W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/desktop/xUbuntu_13.10/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.opensuse.org_repositories_isv:_ownCloud:_desktop_xUbuntu%5f13.10_Packages) | 15:47 |
| wrongplace | how do I fix that? | 15:47 |
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| sohail-ahmed | I need to edit my sources.list file since I am not being able to install any thing and the default or the one text editor installed is vi. but I dont know how to use it. Is there a command to change the sources.list | 16:56 |
| sohail-ahmed | and I am on the command line only | 16:56 |
| holstein | you should have nano as well | 17:02 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: ^ | 17:02 |
| holstein | i mean, if you only have the command line, and you want to edif a file, you'll need to learn a command line text editor, or use a live CD | 17:03 |
| bekks | sohail-ahmed: So which ubuntu are you on then? | 17:03 |
| holstein | edit* | 17:03 |
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| sohail-ahmed | its ubuntu server 12.0.. | 17:06 |
| sohail-ahmed | yea I guess that might be the only chance, I was hoping to install some graphical interface but this bad source list problem caught | 17:08 |
| sohail-ahmed | me | 17:08 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: you can run "sudo apt-get update" and paste errors | 17:08 |
| holstein | !paste | sohail-ahmed | 17:08 |
| ubottu | sohail-ahmed: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:08 |
| sohail-ahmed | holstein, I think that would be possible for me to paste the entire error list, since as you might have guessed I am typing through another system. | 17:10 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: pastebinit near the end of what i linked should help | 17:10 |
| sohail-ahmed | sorry? | 17:11 |
| sohail-ahmed | I am on the different system | 17:11 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: pastebin it allows you to boot directly from the command line only system | 17:11 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: i understand that.. but, a volunteer here will need to see the specific error messages | 17:12 |
| sohail-ahmed | yea I agree, but how can I make happen that? | 17:12 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: one way is the suggesting i am making above with pastebin it. you can explore that method and report if you are having issues.. or, use a live cd and edit the fie you are trying to edit in a gui editor from the live environment | 17:13 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: if the promblem is "i want to edit my sources file in a GUI" use a live CD | 17:13 |
| sohail-ahmed | let me try here, you might get some idea. I have already typed 'sudo apt-get update' couple of times since my fresh install an hour ago. So now the "sudo apt-get update " gives: reading package ... Done, Reading package list .. done , E: unable to locate package update | 17:16 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: and those errors can be because of many things.. not only a bad sources file | 17:17 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: could be you dont have a lock on var | 17:17 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: i need more information.. and im not convinced you need to edit your sources file.. and i dont know what you mean by "fresh install" | 17:17 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: is this xubuntu 12.04? ubuntu server 12.04? | 17:18 |
| sohail-ahmed | ubunut server 12.04 | 17:18 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: and you just fresh installed it? and you are trying to add xfce? | 17:18 |
| sohail-ahmed | yes | 17:18 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: if its a fresh install, nothing is wrong with the source file.. if you didnt break it, its not broken | 17:19 |
| sohail-ahmed | but nothing is being installed | 17:19 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: please share more information about the error from "sudo apt-get update" | 17:19 |
| sohail-ahmed | for example sudo apt-get install gedit | 17:19 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: sure.. but that doesnt mean the source file is bad | 17:19 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: what is the error from "sudo apt-get update" ? | 17:19 |
| sohail-ahmed | not the source file. I mean the default repository selection is bad | 17:20 |
| sohail-ahmed | I need to change the the repository | 17:20 |
| sohail-ahmed | its pk.ubunut/archive .... | 17:20 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: its not. nothing you are telling me indicates that is the issue. if its a default fresh install and you didnt break that, it should be fine | 17:20 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: i will need to see the exact error.. you are welcome to try #ubuntu-server since that is the operatin system you are using | 17:21 |
| sohail-ahmed | do you know how to change the repository through command line | 17:22 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: yes | 17:22 |
| sohail-ahmed | don't you think that may solve the problem? | 17:22 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: but thats not the issue.. *and* you can change those from a live CD using gedit | 17:22 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: no, i dont.. you havent shared an error with me that makes me think that is the issue. and its a fresh install | 17:22 |
| holstein | otherwise, a fresh install doesnt have much data in it to protect or backup, and it takes me about 6 minutes to install ubuntu server, so, consider a fresh install | 17:23 |
| sohail-ahmed | actually I dont know at this point how to share the error or out put from another command line system. | 17:23 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: ok.. do you want to use gedit to edit your source file? | 17:24 |
| sohail-ahmed | yes | 17:24 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: you can load *any* ubuntu or linux live CD on the system, and load up gedit and edit the file | 17:24 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: this will give you gedit in a gui on that hardware running live where you can edit the sources file.. which i do not think is the issue | 17:25 |
| sohail-ahmed | so there is no work around? | 17:25 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: ? | 17:25 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: ^^ above is a work around.. using vim or nano is a work around | 17:25 |
| sohail-ahmed | meaning how can I give you my out from the other system? | 17:25 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: i would use pastebinit | 17:25 |
| sohail-ahmed | would you please ellobrate | 17:26 |
| sohail-ahmed | I have two pcs | 17:26 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: are you seeing 404 errors? | 17:26 |
| sohail-ahmed | no. | 17:26 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: then, the sources doesnt seem to be the issue | 17:26 |
| holstein | what is that error? E: cant do what? | 17:27 |
| sohail-ahmed | W: unable to connect to pk.archive.ubuntu.com:http... | 17:27 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: load up a live CD and edit the sources as you please | 17:28 |
| holstein | or, use nano in the command line | 17:28 |
| sohail-ahmed | so when I would be in /etc/apt/sources.list, should I replace pk.archive... with usa.archive... | 17:28 |
| sohail-ahmed | ? | 17:29 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: looks just like this from your current system http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise_Repositories#Edit_the_repository_sources_list | 17:29 |
| holstein | http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ is a nice source generator | 17:30 |
| sohail-ahmed | which is more technical to use nano or vi? | 17:33 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: ? | 17:33 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: use whichever you can use.. or use gedit from a live CD | 17:33 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: the instructions i linked suggested nano, as did i | 17:34 |
| holstein | nano is already installed.. and the insructions for how to use it are easy to find and printed in the screen | 17:34 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/reu/nano.html for example | 17:35 |
| holstein | though, i would just get the sources i want, and copy to a USB stick and mount it and backup the curent one, and mv the new one im place | 17:36 |
| holstein | this could also be easily done using a live cd if one didnt want to be using the terminal | 17:36 |
| sohail-ahmed | I have made all the changes I wanted. To be exact, I have changed all "pk.archive.ubuntu.com...." to "archive.ububtu.com....". I think I am right???? | 17:38 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: i would refer to the source generator i linked to make sure that the sources i want are the ones i have | 17:38 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: you should have the current one backed up and know easily how to revert, so trying it wont hurt anything | 17:39 |
| sohail-ahmed | But I used my sources.list from the xubuntu installation// | 17:39 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: i dont know what those are, friend.. but, its your responsibility to make sure you have the proper sources file.. if you have a default xubuntu 12.04 installation, the sources should be fine | 17:40 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: you wouldnt, for example want xubuntu 13.10 sources in server 12.04 | 17:41 |
| sohail-ahmed | yea thanks, Its a working xubuntu system through which I am writing to you. I guess that would be a good bet. | 17:41 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: dont "guess".. if its xubuntu 13.10, and you are using those sources in 12.04, thats *bad* | 17:42 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: is that the case? | 17:42 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: be *certain*.. ask.. look.. elaborate | 17:42 |
| sohail-ahmed | yes, but I have only changed the initial phrases, as "pk.archive.ubuntu....." to "archive.ubuntu...." | 17:43 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: friend, use the source generator i gave to generate the sources.. | 17:43 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: if you want to try what you have done, try it.. know how to revert | 17:43 |
| sohail-ahmed | ok mate. In the source generator link there is no ubuntu server should I use Precise 12.04 LTS | 17:44 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: if that is what you are using.. 12.04.. then yes | 17:45 |
| sohail-ahmed | its working.... | 17:46 |
| sohail-ahmed | Thankyou God bless you!!! | 17:47 |
| sohail-ahmed | I have another little question, if you don't mind | 17:47 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: just ask.. a volunteer will chime in if they can help | 17:48 |
| sohail-ahmed | I have actually installed ubuntu server on my old pentium 4 pc that was just collecting dust. My plan was to use it as a file server. For that I have to install ssh-server on my ubunutu server, correct?? but the problem I am not sure is that ssh may not be able to connect to the server from my office which is behind NAT. What can I do to over come that? | 17:50 |
| sohail-ahmed | Do I need to buy a domain???? | 17:51 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: a domain name? you dont need a domain name for what you are trying to do | 17:52 |
| holstein | ssh is one way to share files.. there are many others | 17:52 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: you want to put your machine at home? the file server? | 17:52 |
| sohail-ahmed | yes | 17:52 |
| holstein | nad what "office is behind nat"? where you work? | 17:53 |
| holstein | and* | 17:53 |
| sohail-ahmed | yes my office network | 17:53 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: network? or another phyiscal place? not under your control | 17:54 |
| sohail-ahmed | sorry?? | 17:55 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: what office netowrk? | 17:55 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: like, another physical location? | 17:55 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: or, just your office network at home? | 17:55 |
| sohail-ahmed | meaning in my office I don't connect to internet direectly but through a organizational server, meaning I am behind a router over which I have no control. | 17:56 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: "in your office" like, in your house? or another physical location? | 17:56 |
| sohail-ahmed | another physical location, the place where I work, my file server/ubunut server would be in my home. | 17:57 |
| holstein | ok.. so, you have no control over the office.. period | 17:57 |
| holstein | either you can connect to what you make, or not.. there are tricks for that.. running the servers on common ports they likely wouldnt block | 17:57 |
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| sohail-ahmed | :( I have control over my office but not on the router I am using there. | 17:58 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: i suggest a service. something like dropbox, if the office doesnt block it | 17:58 |
| holstein | otherwise, you set up ssh locally, and test.. then you'll get the IP for your home, you can get that from http://www.whatsmyip.org/ | 17:59 |
| sohail-ahmed | I have a static ip. | 17:59 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: you will connect locally to the ip of the box at 192.168.0.22 or whatever.. something like that | 17:59 |
| holstein | then, the static ip that you reference above that you will determine as i indicated will be what you access from the outside | 17:59 |
| holstein | you will be able to, on your home router, forward the ssh port to the machine.. 22 is the default.. so, you would forward port 22 to 192.168.0.22 for example | 18:00 |
| holstein | you may want a static IP on your lan for that machine.. you may use any domain name to point to the ip of your home.. http://dyn.com/dns/ is what i use.. a free account | 18:01 |
| sohail-ahmed | so my ubuntu server sets a fixed local ip, the ifconfig gives, 192.168.1.5 | 18:01 |
| holstein | there are many security implications in what you are trying to do that should be accounted for | 18:01 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: it doesnt 'get' one.. you'll give it one if you want it to have one | 18:02 |
| holstein | i dont know anything about your lan.. typically, next time you reboot, or the power goes off, that server can get *any* other 192.168.1.whatever IP from the router | 18:02 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: you configure it to use *.5 all the time.. or something outside the DHCP range.. like 192.168.1.222 or whatever | 18:03 |
| sohail-ahmed | Isn't it the case that the server while configuring the network gives itself a static local ip? | 18:03 |
| sohail-ahmed | that wont chaange after a reboot | 18:03 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: no | 18:03 |
| sohail-ahmed | how can I give it a static ip. | 18:03 |
| sohail-ahmed | ? | 18:03 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: not typically.. thats up to you and how you set up your router | 18:04 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: as i suggested, you can give it a static ip oustide the DHCP range | 18:04 |
| sohail-ahmed | whats the command to set the static ip on my ubuntu server? | 18:04 |
| holstein | sohail-ahmed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180925/how-to-setup-static-ip-in-ubuntu-server-12-04 is what i reference | 18:05 |
| holstein | or, i use the router to "reserve" | 18:05 |
| holstein | and trust no labels | 18:05 |
| holstein | sorry.. ignore the labels comment.. for another channel | 18:06 |
| sohail-ahmed | thanks for link | 18:06 |
| nanotube | oh and speaking of package management - am i the only one who's sad that synaptic isn't in the default install? | 18:18 |
| elfy | I'm not sad - easy enough to install it | 18:19 |
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| Random832 | Why does the Display Settings window come up whenever i plug in my AC adapter | 18:22 |
| Random832 | or, not always, but sometimes, randomly, it's weird | 18:22 |
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| Belial` | i installed the gnome-shell package in xubuntu 13.10 but when i go to log out/in i don't have an option to pick gnome-shell. | 19:06 |
| Belial` | just xubuntu session and xfce | 19:06 |
| Belial` | what am i missing? | 19:06 |
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| krytarik | Belial`: Install the package "gnome-session" too. | 19:15 |
| Belial` | krytarik, thanks | 19:16 |
| YuhanS | My laptop is having trouble logging on automatically to wireless. Keep getting authentication box | 19:17 |
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| YuhanS | This just started happening about a week ago. Before that all was fine. | 19:19 |
| YuhanS | Someone suggested that this could be a glitch in the gnome keyring. | 19:21 |
| krytarik | YuhanS: Are you now autologging in too, and before you weren't? | 19:22 |
| YuhanS | I don't know...I'm completely new to this! I just logged in and asked my question. | 19:23 |
| krytarik | YuhanS: I mean to your desktop. | 19:24 |
| YuhanS | I am logged on to my laptop. If I open and shut the lid with the system on it logs in. | 19:24 |
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| xubuntu155 | Hello, just trying out this webclient while xubuntu is installing! Nice feature! | 19:48 |
| krytarik | !hi | xubuntu155 | 19:48 |
| ubottu | xubuntu155: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 19:48 |
| krytarik | :) | 19:48 |
| xubuntu155 | does the install option to 'skip' while the installation is going on still ensure that the installtion will complete and leave the user with a usable system? | 19:51 |
| xubuntu155 | or should it be used with caution? | 19:51 |
| arctichenry | Ello all, anyone know of any good ways to get xubuntu to like a mac? | 19:51 |
| xubuntu155 | hello krytarik , thanks for the welcome | 19:52 |
| krytarik | xubuntu155: Well, since it offers that, it should be fine, though those things will be left non-configured, and may have to be configured later. | 19:53 |
| krytarik | !mac | arctichenry | 19:54 |
| ubottu | arctichenry: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages | 19:54 |
| arctichenry | Would the install be any diffrent for xubuntu then ubuntu? Any aditional things to consider/do? | 19:54 |
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| krytarik | arctichenry: Oh, you mean Xubuntu vs. Ubuntu - no, not really. :) | 19:57 |
| arceye | slower than a slow thing compaired to windows, that's all i can say, but it is free :) | 20:02 |
| nanotube | elfy: well sure, and i do, but still. :P | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | nanotube: And how to purge software-center and app-install-data* right? | 20:08 |
| uszasty | Hi. I have problem with my graphics, GeForce 7600GT, from gigabyte. Have installed latest stable properiaty drivers (304.something, installed by ubuntuxtreme script) | 20:10 |
| uszasty | And after some playing time screen is starting lag | 20:11 |
| uszasty | Whole screen, and game fps counter don't show any loss or something | 20:11 |
| uszasty | I'm used mint for some time, and this not occured there | 20:12 |
| nanotube | Unit193: well i just leave them be, disk space is cheap, but ... yea. :) | 20:12 |
| uszasty | Anyone? Something? It's making me sad, because mint is something overloaded, and there drivers won't work :| | 20:16 |
| arceye | uszasty, without sounding all negative and of no help what so ever. welcome to linux, in maybe 10 years it will catch up ( when enough users move to it for hardware developers to think about support , like that will ever happen ) ) | 20:17 |
| uszasty | Yeah, but i know it's work on ubuntu... well, clone, because I don't have other word to name it, and won't work on ubuntu itself? | 20:18 |
| knome | arceye, there are other channels to discuss that. please don't do it here. | 20:20 |
| Unit193 | I have 304.88-0ubuntu8 on saucy, I don't see that issue so can't really help. | 20:21 |
| arceye | uszasty, I have a similar problem, in the last 3 days I have installed and removed 6 different disto's , the only one which gives me hope of working is xubuntu , even that is slower than a PIII 450 running winXP | 20:21 |
| Unit193 | arceye: Go into Window Manager Tweaks and turn off the compositor, should give it some help. | 20:22 |
| uszasty | Okay, still not perfect, but it's better than nothing :) Thanks :) | 20:26 |
| arceye | Unit193, I Don't see it | 20:26 |
| arceye | Unit193, where exactly should I see these tweaks ? in windows manager I see style, keyboard, focus, advanced . | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | arceye: Not Window Manager, Window Manager Tweaks, then the Compositor tab. | 20:36 |
| arceye | Unit193, and whee exactly do i find that ? | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | Settings Manager | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | (or launch xfwm4-tweaks-settings) | 20:37 |
| arceye | Unit193, found it , now I need to uncheck enable display compositing right ? | 20:37 |
| uszasty | Yes | 20:37 |
| Unit193 | Yes. | 20:37 |
| arceye | Unit193, dont that and what should work differently now ? | 20:38 |
| arceye | *done even | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | Graphics are likely faster, you disabled the compositor. | 20:40 |
| uszasty | What it actually does? | 20:40 |
| uszasty | That compositor thing? | 20:40 |
| arceye | Unit193, I was hoping the refresh rate of any open window would improve , or is that something else ? | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | Transparency, some "pretty" stuff basically. | 20:40 |
| uszasty | Ahh, ok, don't need it anyway... | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | uszasty: You'll likely notice the most on that bottom panel. | 20:41 |
| arceye | Unit193, here is the problems I have, this is whay I have so much negativity , opening apps takes forever, refresh rate of windows is visibly very slow , I listen to music streamed from windows media center a lot and when opening any app the music stops until app is loaded | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | arceye: This is actually hardware, not a VM right? Also, computer specs? | 20:45 |
| arceye | it is hardware yes, I am trying to move away from winXP and it's EOL soon, but the performance in the same hardware is falling terribly short | 20:47 |
| arceye | hardware spec is AMD64 3200+ 2GB Ram aith ati 3650 gfx < i know there are some gfx drivers problems and no support but that can't be the answer as I ran ubuntu 10.04 some years ago on the same hardware and it was great | 20:49 |
| holstein | arceye: you have tried the proprietary driver in lubuntu/xubuntu ? | 20:52 |
| holstein | arceye: seems like you were here already, and i suggested stock lubuntu and trying the proprietary ati driver for your hardware.. have you? | 20:53 |
| Slayers | hey all | 20:53 |
| Slayers | Need some help here, setting my mining rig up | 20:54 |
| Slayers | anyone got some spare time? | 20:54 |
| holstein | Slayers: i think the support avenue for whatever mining software you are tyring to use might be "better". though, if you are having specific issues, state them, and a volunteer may be able to assist | 20:55 |
| arceye | holstein, I was and I tried lubuntu which didn't work, I don't know how to install the proprietary drivers, I am afraid everything which kind of works will die , as it has in the passed | 20:55 |
| Slayers | I just installed the latest drivers and then rebooted, and had 4 choices to choose from, Ubuntu, memory test, memory test(and alot of text) and something else | 20:55 |
| holstein | arceye: you need to get to a point where "fear" is not an issue. have your data backed up, and do an install, and test the driver that is likely to make your hardware work best | 20:55 |
| Slayers | i tried Ubuntu and it was some kernel issues not syncing and VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown-block or somethin | 20:56 |
| bekks | Slayers: Did you compile your kernel yourself? | 20:57 |
| holstein | Slayers: just get us the *exact* error message.. and let us know hwat hardware and drivers yuou tried | 20:57 |
| arceye | holstein, it's not data loss I am afraid of its the hours of time it takes, is there a point and click install of proprietary drivers or do I have to do command line crap ? ( not meaning to be offensive here ) | 20:57 |
| holstein | arceye: if you want to try the proper drivers, you will need to try and install the drivers | 20:58 |
| bekks | arceye: there is no point and click installing game. :) | 20:58 |
| holstein | arceye: there are many ways.. GUI package managers | 20:58 |
| holstein | arceye: what i usually do is fire up synaptic and search for the package/s i need/want, and try them based on. | 20:59 |
| holstein | !ati | 20:59 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 20:59 |
| holstein | ^ | 20:59 |
| holstein | arceye: this is the "best" next course of action.. the proprietary driver can address the issues yo ustate having | 20:59 |
| Slayers | Im at the same screen again with these options: Ubuntu, Advanced options for Ubuntu, Memoy test(memtest86+)and Memory test(memtest86+, serial console 115200) which one shall i take to start it properly? | 20:59 |
| holstein | Slayers: what driver did you install? | 20:59 |
| arceye | holstein, gui package managers I can handle, they are point and click , I have seen that site I think followed it to the letter and ended up fomatting the hard drive 15 minutes later :( | 21:00 |
| Slayers | http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64 | 21:00 |
| holstein | Slayers: you may need to start by removing whatever you have done, and starting over | 21:00 |
| Slayers | Those | 21:00 |
| holstein | Slayers: i would use the ones in the repos.. try removing those and using the ones in the repo | 21:00 |
| Slayers | repo? | 21:00 |
| holstein | Slayers: the default version included in ubuntu. in the defaul repos=repositories | 21:01 |
| holstein | !ati | Slayers | 21:01 |
| ubottu | Slayers: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 21:01 |
| holstein | thats actually good for your issue as well | 21:01 |
| Slayers | ill check that out | 21:01 |
| Slayers | i got a guy helping me | 21:01 |
| Slayers | but he went brb | 21:02 |
| Slayers | but okay | 21:02 |
| Slayers | ill check that out | 21:02 |
| Slayers | btw that is ubuntu | 21:03 |
| Slayers | is xubuntu and ubuntu same thing? | 21:03 |
| Slayers | (almost same thing)? | 21:03 |
| holstein | Slayers: no.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu | 21:03 |
| holstein | Slayers: you take ubuntu, and you can make it xubuntu.. it uses the same sources | 21:04 |
| holstein | the drivers available in the repos for both.. and are the same drivers | 21:04 |
| Slayers | ok | 21:05 |
| Slayers | will it help anything for you if i tell my graphick cards? | 21:08 |
| holstein | Slayers: i have asked that information, but the link should help you determine.. | 21:09 |
| arceye | holstein, is there a list of all the packages I need to install so I can use package manager , If I blindly follow the command line instructions my OS will be broken in no time | 21:09 |
| holstein | Slayers: one option is, amd has not offered a drvier for you that will support the funcionality you seek in linux | 21:10 |
| Slayers | oh | 21:10 |
| Slayers | should i try something else, like BAMT? | 21:11 |
| holstein | Slayers: you should keep in mind that the vendor hasnt promised you linux support, is my only point | 21:11 |
| Slayers | ok | 21:12 |
| holstein | Slayers: you should try the supported driver in the repo that you and arceye are having a hard time installing | 21:12 |
| holstein | what i do is search for a specific guide.. i'll run "lspci" in the terminal, and take the line there that describes the hardware, and search "that line ubuntu".. not "xubuntu", or "lubuntu".. | 21:13 |
| holstein | i want to see how someone with that specific hardware deals with it.. basically, you install the module, and reboot... | 21:14 |
| arceye | holstein, I will do that without a problem, help me add the line I need to the repo for none free and tell me what I need to get, or can I search the repo using "ati 3650 supported drivers" | 21:15 |
| holstein | arceye: i dont search "the repo".. i search the internet | 21:16 |
| holstein | arceye: the repo has a few different ati drivers there.. but not many | 21:16 |
| holstein | arceye: for example, this is someone with your exact hardware http://askubuntu.com/questions/77661/how-do-i-install-ati-radeon-hd-3650-driver-on-my-pc | 21:18 |
| holstein | there is also the vesa driver to test with.. which, on hardware of that vintage, i would be ok using.. | 21:19 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 | 21:19 |
| holstein | it would be easy enough, arceye , to put an xorg.conf in place to test with, and see that the driver *is* the issue.. right now, i think you are assuming linux is slow on that hardware | 21:20 |
| holstein | it might be nice to just take the graphics driver support out of the equation, so you can see if you are interested in running linux or not | 21:20 |
| holstein | if you had well supported intel hardware, or if the manufacturer allowed ubuntu/linux to provide support for that hardware, you would basically just install the OS, and all the drivers would be there, in the kernel | 21:21 |
| arceye | holstein, That post was in 2011 things are very different now, I feel like I will be blindly following an out of date tutorial so leading to bigger problems, can you understand my worry here ? | 21:21 |
| holstein | arceye: not really | 21:22 |
| holstein | arceye: there is not worry.. just unsupported hardware that you will have to take on the responsiblity of providing the support | 21:22 |
| holstein | arceye: try the vesa driver, since that is "easy" and see if you want to bother with it | 21:23 |
| holstein | i realize its frustrating,a nd ideally, AMD would recognize your frustrations, and let the driver be provided.. but, that is likely not to happen anytime soon | 21:23 |
| arceye | in answer to your previous question of the intel hardware and everything just working then of course I would be interested, I want to run linux for the very reason it's free, I understand it will never stack up to windows, but it's free, I just want it to work | 21:26 |
| holstein | arceye: well, thats not a question.. just a statement. and its not really about "freedom".. just specifically about linux support | 21:27 |
| holstein | arceye: its not about "stacking up to windows" | 21:28 |
| holstein | arceye: that will be a specific opinion.. the support *is* there for many devices, and there is not way windows can "stack up to it" .. but that is not the issue here | 21:28 |
| holstein | you just have a problematic case.. just as you might have a printer laying about that windows 7 wouldnt work with.. its not a short coming of windows 7 that it cant use that printer.. there is just not hardware support for it | 21:29 |
| holstein | arceye: that being said, it should be relatively easy for you to try the vesa driver and remove the driver support from the equation on your system | 21:30 |
| arceye | ok, I am not in any way going to argue which is better, you are helping me and I appreciate it. | 21:32 |
| holstein | theres a reason why you arent rushing out and purchasing windows8 for that hardware.. its because there is not support for it.. its not a short coming of windows 8 that it doesnt support your hardware | 21:32 |
| holstein | and ideally, the "help" would come from where it does for windows.. from AMD themselves.. but, thats either not happening for your specific hardware, or not available | 21:33 |
| holstein | with the popularity of steam coming to linux, this issue of grahpics support is getting *much* better.. but for newer hardare | 21:34 |
| holstein | hardware* | 21:34 |
| holstein | nothing linux is doing is making that better.. its just the manufacturers getting involvde in provided the support, since its becoming commercially viable | 21:35 |
| arceye | I AM buying windows 8 for my gaming pc, and I hear what you say about steam, I was in fact looking to purchase a steam box, but I am going to wait until I see if it fails or not | 21:36 |
| holstein | arceye: then, you can see *exactly* what i mean in person. you can take win8 and put it on that hardware.. then, you can ask yourself if its somehow a shortcoming of win8 that its not working thre | 21:37 |
| holstein | there* | 21:37 |
| arceye | anyway back to the help if possible .. vesa drivers how and where | 21:37 |
| holstein | arceye: the xorg.conf i linked | 21:38 |
| holstein | you put in in place, and reboot and test | 21:38 |
| holstein | arceye: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 is the link.. has the file there.. you save it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 21:39 |
| holstein | you can run gedit with admin privs.. gksudo gedit ..it will open.. copy/paste what you find in that link.. save it as "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".. reboot, knowing how to get rid of that file from a live CD or tty if it doesnt work | 21:40 |
| holstein | arceye: dont worry about the resolution for now.. simply test this driver and the responsiveness | 21:41 |
| arceye | holstein, 2 questions : I dont' have a file called xorg.conf in that location, so do I have to make it ? if I get a blank screen on reboot how do I then fix it ? | 21:43 |
| arceye | holstein, step 1 how do I actually make this file to put the text into ? | 21:46 |
| holstein | arceye: you open gedit as adminsitrator using "gksudo gedit" from a terminal. copy paste the contents from that link. specifically http://paste.ubuntu.com/6939799/ | 21:46 |
| holstein | then, you *save* it to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" | 21:47 |
| holstein | not x11.. must be "/etc/X11/xorg.conf | 21:47 |
| holstein | you wont edit a file there, since there is none.. you will save the contents to that file | 21:47 |
| holstein | arceye: if you get a "blank screen".. you can load up a live CD and remove "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and get back to where you are. *or* use a tty and do it from the command line | 21:48 |
| arceye | holstein, liveCD sounds like the plan :) | 21:48 |
| holstein | arceye: i think its easy, and you'll have a GUI.. a normal filemanager | 21:49 |
| arceye | I have got the DIR open but not got gedit installed, can I use abiword and save it with the correct extension e.i .conf | 21:50 |
| holstein | arceye: you can do many things from there.. you could use another editor.. you can install gedit.. you can use whatever editor you want | 21:51 |
| holstein | sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 21:52 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install gedit | 21:52 |
| holstein | gksudo "whateverGUIeditor" and continue from above | 21:52 |
| holstein | arceye: i also would try and just power through this as quick as possible.. i typically try the 3 (or more) driver options as quick as i can and determine if im going to keep the hardware, and/or what purpose its going to serve | 21:57 |
| arceye | I am trying, I made the file but I can't save it to the correct dir ( I guess I need to be root to do that ) | 21:58 |
| arceye | sorry, I have made the file ages ago but I can't put it in /etc/X11 no access | 22:07 |
| knome | arceye, in terminal: sudo cp /path/to/your.file /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 22:08 |
| knome | (assuming you want to overwrite/copy to the latter location, i'm jumping in from the middle) | 22:08 |
| arceye | knome, thanks there isn't an existing file in there so nothing to overwrite | 22:09 |
| arceye | holstein, file is there, now I just reboot right ? | 22:11 |
| arceye | holstein, if that file wasn't there to begin with then it isn't being used, so why would it be used now, or it it only used if present ? | 22:14 |
| knome | arceye, xorg.conf is only used if present | 22:14 |
| arceye | knome, thanks | 22:14 |
| arceye | <<--- prepares to reboot fingers and toes crossed and waiting for the gotcha | 22:15 |
| xubuntu907 | hello, everyone | 22:20 |
| xubuntu907 | im having trouble with the installation gui | 22:21 |
| xubuntu907 | does anyone has a problem with installing xubuntu 13.20? | 22:22 |
| knome | xubuntu907, please ask the real question | 22:22 |
| knome | that is, describe what is not working in the installation gui | 22:22 |
| xubuntu907 | the screen is incomplete and shaky | 22:23 |
| knome | xubuntu907, did you try with the "try xubuntu" option? | 22:23 |
| xubuntu907 | and cant see the buttons to go any further | 22:23 |
| xubuntu907 | nope, went right for the installatinon | 22:23 |
| knome | i would see if that has problems as well before debugging it further | 22:24 |
| knome | if it has problems as well, you might need to set some more options for the installer to be able to proceed | 22:24 |
| xubuntu907 | right, knome, thanks, im trying it first | 22:24 |
| arceye | holstein, well.. it rebooted and I now have 2 screens which are mirroring eachother | 22:24 |
| xubuntu907 | it surely has something to do with my nvidia graphics card | 22:25 |
| arceye | can I change the resolution using settings manager / display , or do I have to edit that xorg file ? | 22:25 |
| knome | xubuntu907, that's possible | 22:26 |
| knome | arceye, if the settings manager dialog shows the options (if you have created the xorg.conf file in the right way), of course | 22:26 |
| arceye | knome, | 22:28 |
| arceye | ok left screen now has a limit of 1084 x 768, so do I alter that in xorg.conf file | 22:29 |
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| arceye | knome, movie playback is now a slideshow , So I assume the xorg.conf thing wasn't the answer | 22:39 |
| arceye | how do I delete the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? I am guessing it will have to be done in terminal but what is command ? | 22:45 |
| bekks | arceye: USe the configuration program of your graphics driver, you dont need to delete files. | 22:45 |
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| knome | arceye, sudo rm ... | 22:46 |
| arceye | knome, sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? | 22:47 |
| knome | arceye, yes | 22:47 |
| knome | OTHER USERS: please do not type that command. it might break your system | 22:47 |
| arceye | sorry for that, it never occurred to me that someone would do that | 22:48 |
| knome | no problem | 22:48 |
| arceye | done now so reboot again | 22:48 |
| arceye | that's better :) | 22:52 |
| arceye | now.. if I blindly follow this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/77661/how-do-i-install-ati-radeon-hd-3650-driver-on-my-pc how do I undo it, if it breaks everything ? | 22:54 |
| bekks | Run the .run with --help and pray it has an uninstall option. | 22:55 |
| arceye | in fact, sorry I can't follow it, it is directions to uninstall proprietary drivers and I thought I needed to install them | 22:55 |
| bekks | So uninstall them again, as they broke your system. | 22:57 |
| arceye | advise me on which package manager to install | 22:57 |
| bekks | !ati | arceye | 22:58 |
| ubottu | arceye: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 22:58 |
| arceye | bekks, I'm sorry but I can't follow what it is saying, it goes off on too many tangents, too many ifs and butts | 23:00 |
| bekks | arceye: you install the driver manually, dont you? | 23:00 |
| arceye | I don't do anything manually I need a package manager first but don't know which one to get, my xubuntu doesn't have one installed that I can find | 23:01 |
| bekks | Did you manually install your graphics driver: yes or no? | 23:02 |
| arceye | I currently have whatever was installed by the OS on clean install | 23:03 |
| bekks | So you have a package management system called dpkg, and a frontend called apt-get -- and only these are required for that guide. | 23:04 |
| arceye | bekks, I am reading that page and can't see where the actual install is done, it gets to the point of how to recover when it breaks ( fills me with confidence ), up to then all it has done is told me how to find out what gfx card I have, then made and edited a new xorg.conf file | 23:12 |
| krytarik | arceye: Just begin with checking the Additional Drivers tool for any 'recommended' proprietary drivers for your graphics device. | 23:20 |
| arceye | my current ati drivers are ( I think ) a wrapper provided for Mach64, Rage128, Radeon, FireGL, FireMV, FirePro and FireStream | 23:20 |
| arceye | krytarik, no additional drivers available , No proprietary drivers in use | 23:23 |
| impossible | whats the bottom panel called in xubuntu | 23:25 |
| impossible | dock? | 23:26 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-panel | 23:28 |
| krytarik | arceye: It seems like, your card as well, isn't supported by the proprietary ATI/AMD driver anymore - in this case, you can only continue using the default, open source 'radeon' on, and live with the performance it delivers. | 23:29 |
| krytarik | *one | 23:30 |
| arceye | is that what I already have , from what I just said about the drivers I think are installed | 23:30 |
| impossible | xfce uses compiz? | 23:32 |
| krytarik | arceye: Yup - you can verify that with: "lshw -C video". | 23:33 |
| krytarik | impossible: Nope, not by default. | 23:34 |
| impossible | great! thanks krytarik | 23:34 |
| arceye | krytarik, I run that command and get a message you should run is as super user | 23:36 |
| arceye | krytarik, I do su then it refuses my password :( | 23:37 |
| krytarik | arceye: Yeah, I know, it still delivers the correct, needed info. | 23:37 |
| krytarik | *though | 23:37 |
| bekks | arceye: use sudo, not su. | 23:37 |
| arceye | ok thanks I though sudo was short for super user do | 23:38 |
| krytarik | arceye: Yup, it is - rather than what you've just tried instead, which is -logging in- as root. | 23:40 |
| arceye | the output is Product RV635 configuration : driver -radeon | 23:40 |
| krytarik | arceye: And the root account is by default disabled in Ubuntu. | 23:40 |
| krytarik | arceye: Yup, there you go. :) | 23:41 |
| krytarik | arceye: Btw, what version of Xubuntu are you using? | 23:41 |
| arceye | krytarik, so that is what I have , I am using 13. something | 23:41 |
| krytarik | arceye: Do you have the same issues when running a Live session too? | 23:43 |
| krytarik | arceye: Because usually the 'radeon' driver should do fine enough at least. | 23:43 |
| arceye | I would say yes, I ran live only for a few minutes to see if it allowed the use of my dual monitor, once I saw that it did, I installed | 23:44 |
| krytarik | arceye: Then I'd try it with just the same things you are having issues with currently. | 23:45 |
| arceye | krytarik, I guess it will have to do, it will work for basic office type stuff and basic net browsing. | 23:49 |
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