[01:07] someone here? [01:09] !someone | koell [01:09] koell: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [01:17] knome: im currently on lubuntu and tried xubuntu now in virtualbox. i really like the look and feel the design team of xubuntu create. it looks much better than the default xfce. i would like to install xfce on my lubuntu machine but with the style of xubuntu. is it possible to do that and how? [01:21] koell, you can install the package xubuntu-desktop to get the "full" xubuntu desktop set of packages [01:21] koell, note that this will most probably install additional software as well [01:22] knome: but i can unwanted software uninstall right? so i get the same xubuntu experience with this package? the same desktop, icons, style <3 ? [01:25] man why does xubuntu look so good <3 <3 <3 [01:33] hi all, does anyone know how to automate handbrake-gtk from thunar? [02:47] Greetings community How I can change the language of all the system to Spanish?. what are the commands on terminal? [03:33] ok so... is it possible to force the update manager to just stick itself into the notification area, rather than popping up? after installing some updates that require a restart, it keeps periodically popping up and saying 'zomg restart', and it did that while i was typing, and whamo, accidental restart. this is undesirable. [04:15] nanotube: gconf seems to have a /apps/update-notifier/hide_reboot_notification var. [04:32] Unit193: isn't gconf gnome? [04:33] You can use `gconftool` to set them still. [04:35] $ gconftool-2 --get /apps/update-notifier/hide_reboot_notification [04:35] No value set for `/apps/update-notifier/hide_reboot_notification' [04:35] hmm.... [04:57] hi [04:58] howdy [04:58] how y'all doing? [04:58] nanotube: I mearly disabled it myself, kept the daemon running for the motd notifications only. [05:02] mm maybe i'll give it a whirl. or maybe just switch to 'activate focus stealing prevention', though that's been too zealous and doesn't bring up even something i deliberately start. [05:03] fwiw, i'd really like the old "icon in panel" approach. why did the have to go and ruin a perfectly good update notification... [05:10] It's a new "feature", but before release wouldn't even let you close it. [05:21] so... can xubuntu tweak stuff to its own design? or are we mostly stuck with whatever ubuntu pushes? [05:23] nanotube: its not so much 'stuck'.. the packages need to be in the repos [05:24] holstein: well i meant, either tweak the config, or have a patched package with desired mods? [05:24] maybe in a special xubuntu-specific repo? [05:25] theres not a xubuntu specific repo [05:25] just the main ones for ubuntu.. but, the configs get set as needed [05:27] hm so it would theoretically be possible to tweak the default gconf/dconf settings to make update-notifier less insane? [05:27] and while we are at it, maybe document said settings somewhere. [05:27] its all open, so literally anything should be possible [05:28] well, anything other than actually modifying the package, it seems. :) [05:29] id be ok if it werent there at all. i dont mind manually updating.. you can see where preferences are challenging to deal with [05:36] holstein: sure, but it is easy to do what you want - the gui allows unchecking the check for updates box. [05:36] it is not easy to do what i want, which is to have less obtrusive notifications. :) [05:37] nanotube: It used to tweak the settings, the settings have been removed. [05:38] it=xubuntu-default-settings [05:42] any good guides on getting catalyst driver properly installed on xubuntu [05:42] !ati | lalopalo [05:42] lalopalo: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [05:43] ubottu: TY [05:43] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [07:26] hola === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan [08:09] I were just going crazy about find using too much cpu and disk [08:09] and i don't remember telling him to index my disks [08:58] Hi there. My left speaker is dead. Is there a way to tell Xubuntu to put all sounds in the right one ? Like switching to mono instead of stereo ? [09:25] yes [09:25] fibz_, ? [09:27] oh oops. i can because this is Ubuntu Studio [09:28] pulseaudio settings don't have mono in output options? I can't check right now [09:32] i'd install qjackctl click start, then connect then patchbay then repatch both left and right into the working speaker for now [09:33] Sysi, don't find any [09:33] fibz_, wow, the hard way ^^ [09:34] It seems i found a way : amixer sset Master 100%,0% [09:34] that will get you going untill you find a better answer. [09:35] there you go [09:35] but i'm not sure, i have to find a mp3 that clearly indicates me if i get both sides in my right speaker [09:35] audacious's visualizer [09:36] it has a mode that shows left and right separately [09:36] great, i test that [09:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTvJoYnpeRQ works on html5 [09:41] Thanks Sysi [09:41] doesn't work [09:41] :( [09:41] i mean the video works ^^ [09:41] but i don't have mono === HolyQuacomole is now known as AussieDownUnder [10:09] Oi nikolam === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan [12:44] so erm, lack of hotkey/shortcut keys in xubuntu [12:44] How does one acquire some? [12:44] >settings >keyboard >shortcuts [12:44] also there are lots and lots of the already [12:45] Need hotkey for terminal, system monitor, bringing up & navigating through the menu with a keyboard [12:45] meta-t [12:50] menu is alt+f1 and arrow keys work afaik [12:50] AussieDownUnder, there are many shortcuts already, "alt gr"-f1 will call the menu, ctrl-esc the desktop menu, meta-t will call the terminal [12:51] alt-f2 will call the appfinder [12:51] What's the meta key lol? [12:51] meta is the windows key [12:51] Oh, I know it as the Super key, I did look up the other names of it but forgot [12:52] AussieDownUnder: some of the default shortcuts 'call' it Super [12:54] Those don't seem to work [12:54] I am using the desktop-ubuntu thing for ubuntu [12:54] Looks exactly like xubuntu & seems same functionality so far [12:54] meta-t for terminal, meta-e for text editor... meta-w for "exo-open --launch WebBrowser" XD [12:55] AussieDownUnder, then you are not using xubuntu [12:55] Well those last hotkey worked [12:57] ctrl-esc should open the menu in any desktop ever [12:57] well, maybe not "ever" [12:57] Brings up what would come up when you right click the desktop [12:58] yes, and the last entry is the appmenu [13:16] how to get rid of the shortening behaviour with the dots ... ? [13:47] All of the extra thinking & responsibility of involved in using xubuntu is somehow making me smarter. [13:47] except I can't type [14:23] I've installed irssi on terminal, so how do I get to work? [14:24] currently using weechat [14:25] run it, connect to networks, join to channels [14:25] /connect chat.freenode.net ; /j #xubuntu [14:40] I have some re-occurring problems with the panel menu button freezing and not reacting on mouse click [14:42] anyone had any issues unable to login to xfce ? I can login to OpenBox but not XFCE [14:43] xfce just dumps me back to the greeter [14:48] does anybody tried trusty tahr based xubuntu distro? [14:48] flux242: yes [14:49] are you on it now? [14:50] hello everybody [14:50] =) [14:50] flux242: yes I am - but if you've got questions about it that are 'support' then either #xubuntu-devel or #ubuntu+1 please [14:51] elfy: no, can you peform a simple test for me? [14:51] flux242: perhaps [14:51] elfy: I just want to know if the case insensitive search for non english file names works in the catfish 1.0 === dormito is now known as dormito|sleep [14:52] flux242: I've not got any non-english filenames that I know of [14:52] DEBUG: Seat: Stopping display server, no sessions require it [14:52] oops [14:52] Anyone know why i would be getting that sort of message when I try to login to XFCE ? [14:53] elfy: do you speak english only? [14:53] I'm afraid so [14:56] elfy: well can you create files with the following file names (semicolon separated) then (just copy/paste): Тест;тест [14:56] elfy: and then searh for: тест [15:01] flux242: appeared to work here [15:02] elfy: so has it found 2 files? [15:02] no it found one [15:03] elfy: then it doesn't work [15:04] elfy: ok, thanks, I'll file a bug on the launchpad then [15:04] ok [15:05] elfy: If you create 2 files: test;Test and search for test it finds 2 files [15:06] yep - I can confirm bug when you report it [15:25] elfy: I've created the bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bug/1280607 [15:25] Launchpad bug 1280607 in Catfish "Case insensitive search for non english file names doesn't work" [Undecided,New] [15:26] elfy: please specify catfish version you use [15:27] flux242: all done [15:27] elfy: thanks [15:30] what is a size mismatch? how do I fix it? [15:30] W: Failed to fetch http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/desktop/xUbuntu_13.10/./amd64/libowncloudsync0_1.5.1_amd64.deb [15:30] Size mismatch === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out [15:47] W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/desktop/xUbuntu_13.10/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.opensuse.org_repositories_isv:_ownCloud:_desktop_xUbuntu%5f13.10_Packages) [15:47] how do I fix that? === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === mtrd is now known as EugeneBandit === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan [16:56] I need to edit my sources.list file since I am not being able to install any thing and the default or the one text editor installed is vi. but I dont know how to use it. Is there a command to change the sources.list [16:56] and I am on the command line only [17:02] you should have nano as well [17:02] sohail-ahmed: ^ [17:03] i mean, if you only have the command line, and you want to edif a file, you'll need to learn a command line text editor, or use a live CD [17:03] sohail-ahmed: So which ubuntu are you on then? [17:03] edit* === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out [17:06] its ubuntu server 12.0.. [17:08] yea I guess that might be the only chance, I was hoping to install some graphical interface but this bad source list problem caught [17:08] me [17:08] sohail-ahmed: you can run "sudo apt-get update" and paste errors [17:08] !paste | sohail-ahmed [17:08] sohail-ahmed: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:10] holstein, I think that would be possible for me to paste the entire error list, since as you might have guessed I am typing through another system. [17:10] sohail-ahmed: pastebinit near the end of what i linked should help [17:11] sorry? [17:11] I am on the different system [17:11] sohail-ahmed: pastebin it allows you to boot directly from the command line only system [17:12] sohail-ahmed: i understand that.. but, a volunteer here will need to see the specific error messages [17:12] yea I agree, but how can I make happen that? [17:13] sohail-ahmed: one way is the suggesting i am making above with pastebin it. you can explore that method and report if you are having issues.. or, use a live cd and edit the fie you are trying to edit in a gui editor from the live environment [17:13] sohail-ahmed: if the promblem is "i want to edit my sources file in a GUI" use a live CD [17:16] let me try here, you might get some idea. I have already typed 'sudo apt-get update' couple of times since my fresh install an hour ago. So now the "sudo apt-get update " gives: reading package ... Done, Reading package list .. done , E: unable to locate package update [17:17] sohail-ahmed: and those errors can be because of many things.. not only a bad sources file [17:17] sohail-ahmed: could be you dont have a lock on var [17:17] sohail-ahmed: i need more information.. and im not convinced you need to edit your sources file.. and i dont know what you mean by "fresh install" [17:18] sohail-ahmed: is this xubuntu 12.04? ubuntu server 12.04? [17:18] ubunut server 12.04 [17:18] sohail-ahmed: and you just fresh installed it? and you are trying to add xfce? [17:18] yes [17:19] sohail-ahmed: if its a fresh install, nothing is wrong with the source file.. if you didnt break it, its not broken [17:19] but nothing is being installed [17:19] sohail-ahmed: please share more information about the error from "sudo apt-get update" [17:19] for example sudo apt-get install gedit [17:19] sohail-ahmed: sure.. but that doesnt mean the source file is bad [17:19] sohail-ahmed: what is the error from "sudo apt-get update" ? [17:20] not the source file. I mean the default repository selection is bad [17:20] I need to change the the repository [17:20] its pk.ubunut/archive .... [17:20] sohail-ahmed: its not. nothing you are telling me indicates that is the issue. if its a default fresh install and you didnt break that, it should be fine [17:21] sohail-ahmed: i will need to see the exact error.. you are welcome to try #ubuntu-server since that is the operatin system you are using [17:22] do you know how to change the repository through command line [17:22] sohail-ahmed: yes [17:22] don't you think that may solve the problem? [17:22] sohail-ahmed: but thats not the issue.. *and* you can change those from a live CD using gedit [17:22] sohail-ahmed: no, i dont.. you havent shared an error with me that makes me think that is the issue. and its a fresh install [17:23] otherwise, a fresh install doesnt have much data in it to protect or backup, and it takes me about 6 minutes to install ubuntu server, so, consider a fresh install [17:23] actually I dont know at this point how to share the error or out put from another command line system. [17:24] sohail-ahmed: ok.. do you want to use gedit to edit your source file? [17:24] yes [17:24] sohail-ahmed: you can load *any* ubuntu or linux live CD on the system, and load up gedit and edit the file [17:25] sohail-ahmed: this will give you gedit in a gui on that hardware running live where you can edit the sources file.. which i do not think is the issue [17:25] so there is no work around? [17:25] sohail-ahmed: ? [17:25] sohail-ahmed: ^^ above is a work around.. using vim or nano is a work around [17:25] meaning how can I give you my out from the other system? [17:25] sohail-ahmed: i would use pastebinit [17:26] would you please ellobrate [17:26] I have two pcs [17:26] sohail-ahmed: are you seeing 404 errors? [17:26] no. [17:26] sohail-ahmed: then, the sources doesnt seem to be the issue [17:27] what is that error? E: cant do what? [17:27] W: unable to connect to pk.archive.ubuntu.com:http... [17:28] sohail-ahmed: load up a live CD and edit the sources as you please [17:28] or, use nano in the command line [17:28] so when I would be in /etc/apt/sources.list, should I replace pk.archive... with usa.archive... [17:29] ? [17:29] sohail-ahmed: looks just like this from your current system http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise_Repositories#Edit_the_repository_sources_list [17:30] http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ is a nice source generator [17:33] which is more technical to use nano or vi? [17:33] sohail-ahmed: ? [17:33] sohail-ahmed: use whichever you can use.. or use gedit from a live CD [17:34] sohail-ahmed: the instructions i linked suggested nano, as did i [17:34] nano is already installed.. and the insructions for how to use it are easy to find and printed in the screen [17:35] sohail-ahmed: http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/reu/nano.html for example [17:36] though, i would just get the sources i want, and copy to a USB stick and mount it and backup the curent one, and mv the new one im place [17:36] this could also be easily done using a live cd if one didnt want to be using the terminal [17:38] I have made all the changes I wanted. To be exact, I have changed all "pk.archive.ubuntu.com...." to "archive.ububtu.com....". I think I am right???? [17:38] sohail-ahmed: i would refer to the source generator i linked to make sure that the sources i want are the ones i have [17:39] sohail-ahmed: you should have the current one backed up and know easily how to revert, so trying it wont hurt anything [17:39] But I used my sources.list from the xubuntu installation// [17:40] sohail-ahmed: i dont know what those are, friend.. but, its your responsibility to make sure you have the proper sources file.. if you have a default xubuntu 12.04 installation, the sources should be fine [17:41] sohail-ahmed: you wouldnt, for example want xubuntu 13.10 sources in server 12.04 [17:41] yea thanks, Its a working xubuntu system through which I am writing to you. I guess that would be a good bet. [17:42] sohail-ahmed: dont "guess".. if its xubuntu 13.10, and you are using those sources in 12.04, thats *bad* [17:42] sohail-ahmed: is that the case? [17:42] sohail-ahmed: be *certain*.. ask.. look.. elaborate [17:43] yes, but I have only changed the initial phrases, as "pk.archive.ubuntu....." to "archive.ubuntu...." [17:43] sohail-ahmed: friend, use the source generator i gave to generate the sources.. [17:43] sohail-ahmed: if you want to try what you have done, try it.. know how to revert [17:44] ok mate. In the source generator link there is no ubuntu server should I use Precise 12.04 LTS [17:45] sohail-ahmed: if that is what you are using.. 12.04.. then yes [17:46] its working.... [17:47] Thankyou God bless you!!! [17:47] I have another little question, if you don't mind [17:48] sohail-ahmed: just ask.. a volunteer will chime in if they can help [17:50] I have actually installed ubuntu server on my old pentium 4 pc that was just collecting dust. My plan was to use it as a file server. For that I have to install ssh-server on my ubunutu server, correct?? but the problem I am not sure is that ssh may not be able to connect to the server from my office which is behind NAT. What can I do to over come that? [17:51] Do I need to buy a domain???? [17:52] sohail-ahmed: a domain name? you dont need a domain name for what you are trying to do [17:52] ssh is one way to share files.. there are many others [17:52] sohail-ahmed: you want to put your machine at home? the file server? [17:52] yes [17:53] nad what "office is behind nat"? where you work? [17:53] and* [17:53] yes my office network [17:54] sohail-ahmed: network? or another phyiscal place? not under your control [17:55] sorry?? [17:55] sohail-ahmed: what office netowrk? [17:55] sohail-ahmed: like, another physical location? [17:55] sohail-ahmed: or, just your office network at home? [17:56] meaning in my office I don't connect to internet direectly but through a organizational server, meaning I am behind a router over which I have no control. [17:56] sohail-ahmed: "in your office" like, in your house? or another physical location? [17:57] another physical location, the place where I work, my file server/ubunut server would be in my home. [17:57] ok.. so, you have no control over the office.. period [17:57] either you can connect to what you make, or not.. there are tricks for that.. running the servers on common ports they likely wouldnt block === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan [17:58] :( I have control over my office but not on the router I am using there. [17:58] sohail-ahmed: i suggest a service. something like dropbox, if the office doesnt block it [17:59] otherwise, you set up ssh locally, and test.. then you'll get the IP for your home, you can get that from http://www.whatsmyip.org/ [17:59] I have a static ip. [17:59] sohail-ahmed: you will connect locally to the ip of the box at 192.168.0.22 or whatever.. something like that [17:59] then, the static ip that you reference above that you will determine as i indicated will be what you access from the outside [18:00] you will be able to, on your home router, forward the ssh port to the machine.. 22 is the default.. so, you would forward port 22 to 192.168.0.22 for example [18:01] you may want a static IP on your lan for that machine.. you may use any domain name to point to the ip of your home.. http://dyn.com/dns/ is what i use.. a free account [18:01] so my ubuntu server sets a fixed local ip, the ifconfig gives, 192.168.1.5 [18:01] there are many security implications in what you are trying to do that should be accounted for [18:02] sohail-ahmed: it doesnt 'get' one.. you'll give it one if you want it to have one [18:02] i dont know anything about your lan.. typically, next time you reboot, or the power goes off, that server can get *any* other 192.168.1.whatever IP from the router [18:03] sohail-ahmed: you configure it to use *.5 all the time.. or something outside the DHCP range.. like 192.168.1.222 or whatever [18:03] Isn't it the case that the server while configuring the network gives itself a static local ip? [18:03] that wont chaange after a reboot [18:03] sohail-ahmed: no [18:03] how can I give it a static ip. [18:03] ? [18:04] sohail-ahmed: not typically.. thats up to you and how you set up your router [18:04] sohail-ahmed: as i suggested, you can give it a static ip oustide the DHCP range [18:04] whats the command to set the static ip on my ubuntu server? [18:05] sohail-ahmed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180925/how-to-setup-static-ip-in-ubuntu-server-12-04 is what i reference [18:05] or, i use the router to "reserve" [18:05] and trust no labels [18:06] sorry.. ignore the labels comment.. for another channel [18:06] thanks for link [18:18] oh and speaking of package management - am i the only one who's sad that synaptic isn't in the default install? [18:19] I'm not sad - easy enough to install it === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan [18:22] Why does the Display Settings window come up whenever i plug in my AC adapter [18:22] or, not always, but sometimes, randomly, it's weird === flux242_ is now known as flux242 === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out [19:06] i installed the gnome-shell package in xubuntu 13.10 but when i go to log out/in i don't have an option to pick gnome-shell. [19:06] just xubuntu session and xfce [19:06] what am i missing? === Pwnna is now known as Punna === Punna is now known as Pwnna [19:15] Belial`: Install the package "gnome-session" too. [19:16] krytarik, thanks [19:17] My laptop is having trouble logging on automatically to wireless. Keep getting authentication box === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan [19:19] This just started happening about a week ago. Before that all was fine. [19:21] Someone suggested that this could be a glitch in the gnome keyring. [19:22] YuhanS: Are you now autologging in too, and before you weren't? [19:23] I don't know...I'm completely new to this! I just logged in and asked my question. [19:24] YuhanS: I mean to your desktop. [19:24] I am logged on to my laptop. If I open and shut the lid with the system on it logs in. === CraHan is now known as CraHan|out [19:48] Hello, just trying out this webclient while xubuntu is installing! Nice feature! [19:48] !hi | xubuntu155 [19:48] xubuntu155: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [19:48] :) [19:51] does the install option to 'skip' while the installation is going on still ensure that the installtion will complete and leave the user with a usable system? [19:51] or should it be used with caution? [19:51] Ello all, anyone know of any good ways to get xubuntu to like a mac? [19:52] hello krytarik , thanks for the welcome [19:53] xubuntu155: Well, since it offers that, it should be fine, though those things will be left non-configured, and may have to be configured later. [19:54] !mac | arctichenry [19:54] arctichenry: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [19:54] Would the install be any diffrent for xubuntu then ubuntu? Any aditional things to consider/do? === CraHan|out is now known as CraHan [19:57] arctichenry: Oh, you mean Xubuntu vs. Ubuntu - no, not really. :) [20:02] slower than a slow thing compaired to windows, that's all i can say, but it is free :) [20:07] elfy: well sure, and i do, but still. :P [20:08] nanotube: And how to purge software-center and app-install-data* right? [20:10] Hi. I have problem with my graphics, GeForce 7600GT, from gigabyte. Have installed latest stable properiaty drivers (304.something, installed by ubuntuxtreme script) [20:11] And after some playing time screen is starting lag [20:11] Whole screen, and game fps counter don't show any loss or something [20:12] I'm used mint for some time, and this not occured there [20:12] Unit193: well i just leave them be, disk space is cheap, but ... yea. :) [20:16] Anyone? Something? It's making me sad, because mint is something overloaded, and there drivers won't work :| [20:17] uszasty, without sounding all negative and of no help what so ever. welcome to linux, in maybe 10 years it will catch up ( when enough users move to it for hardware developers to think about support , like that will ever happen ) ) [20:18] Yeah, but i know it's work on ubuntu... well, clone, because I don't have other word to name it, and won't work on ubuntu itself? [20:20] arceye, there are other channels to discuss that. please don't do it here. [20:21] I have 304.88-0ubuntu8 on saucy, I don't see that issue so can't really help. [20:21] uszasty, I have a similar problem, in the last 3 days I have installed and removed 6 different disto's , the only one which gives me hope of working is xubuntu , even that is slower than a PIII 450 running winXP [20:22] arceye: Go into Window Manager Tweaks and turn off the compositor, should give it some help. [20:26] Okay, still not perfect, but it's better than nothing :) Thanks :) [20:26] Unit193, I Don't see it [20:35] Unit193, where exactly should I see these tweaks ? in windows manager I see style, keyboard, focus, advanced . [20:36] arceye: Not Window Manager, Window Manager Tweaks, then the Compositor tab. [20:36] Unit193, and whee exactly do i find that ? [20:36] Settings Manager [20:37] (or launch xfwm4-tweaks-settings) [20:37] Unit193, found it , now I need to uncheck enable display compositing right ? [20:37] Yes [20:37] Yes. [20:38] Unit193, dont that and what should work differently now ? [20:39] *done even [20:40] Graphics are likely faster, you disabled the compositor. [20:40] What it actually does? [20:40] That compositor thing? [20:40] Unit193, I was hoping the refresh rate of any open window would improve , or is that something else ? [20:40] Transparency, some "pretty" stuff basically. [20:41] Ahh, ok, don't need it anyway... [20:41] uszasty: You'll likely notice the most on that bottom panel. [20:43] Unit193, here is the problems I have, this is whay I have so much negativity , opening apps takes forever, refresh rate of windows is visibly very slow , I listen to music streamed from windows media center a lot and when opening any app the music stops until app is loaded [20:45] arceye: This is actually hardware, not a VM right? Also, computer specs? [20:47] it is hardware yes, I am trying to move away from winXP and it's EOL soon, but the performance in the same hardware is falling terribly short [20:49] hardware spec is AMD64 3200+ 2GB Ram aith ati 3650 gfx < i know there are some gfx drivers problems and no support but that can't be the answer as I ran ubuntu 10.04 some years ago on the same hardware and it was great [20:52] arceye: you have tried the proprietary driver in lubuntu/xubuntu ? [20:53] arceye: seems like you were here already, and i suggested stock lubuntu and trying the proprietary ati driver for your hardware.. have you? [20:53] hey all [20:54] Need some help here, setting my mining rig up [20:54] anyone got some spare time? [20:55] Slayers: i think the support avenue for whatever mining software you are tyring to use might be "better". though, if you are having specific issues, state them, and a volunteer may be able to assist [20:55] holstein, I was and I tried lubuntu which didn't work, I don't know how to install the proprietary drivers, I am afraid everything which kind of works will die , as it has in the passed [20:55] I just installed the latest drivers and then rebooted, and had 4 choices to choose from, Ubuntu, memory test, memory test(and alot of text) and something else [20:55] arceye: you need to get to a point where "fear" is not an issue. have your data backed up, and do an install, and test the driver that is likely to make your hardware work best [20:56] i tried Ubuntu and it was some kernel issues not syncing and VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown-block or somethin [20:57] Slayers: Did you compile your kernel yourself? [20:57] Slayers: just get us the *exact* error message.. and let us know hwat hardware and drivers yuou tried [20:57] holstein, it's not data loss I am afraid of its the hours of time it takes, is there a point and click install of proprietary drivers or do I have to do command line crap ? ( not meaning to be offensive here ) [20:58] arceye: if you want to try the proper drivers, you will need to try and install the drivers [20:58] arceye: there is no point and click installing game. :) [20:58] arceye: there are many ways.. GUI package managers [20:59] arceye: what i usually do is fire up synaptic and search for the package/s i need/want, and try them based on. [20:59] !ati [20:59] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [20:59] ^ [20:59] arceye: this is the "best" next course of action.. the proprietary driver can address the issues yo ustate having [20:59] Im at the same screen again with these options: Ubuntu, Advanced options for Ubuntu, Memoy test(memtest86+)and Memory test(memtest86+, serial console 115200) which one shall i take to start it properly? [20:59] Slayers: what driver did you install? [21:00] holstein, gui package managers I can handle, they are point and click , I have seen that site I think followed it to the letter and ended up fomatting the hard drive 15 minutes later :( [21:00] http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64 [21:00] Slayers: you may need to start by removing whatever you have done, and starting over [21:00] Those [21:00] Slayers: i would use the ones in the repos.. try removing those and using the ones in the repo [21:00] repo? [21:01] Slayers: the default version included in ubuntu. in the defaul repos=repositories [21:01] !ati | Slayers [21:01] Slayers: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [21:01] thats actually good for your issue as well [21:01] ill check that out [21:01] i got a guy helping me [21:02] but he went brb [21:02] but okay [21:02] ill check that out [21:03] btw that is ubuntu [21:03] is xubuntu and ubuntu same thing? [21:03] (almost same thing)? [21:03] Slayers: no.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu [21:04] Slayers: you take ubuntu, and you can make it xubuntu.. it uses the same sources [21:04] the drivers available in the repos for both.. and are the same drivers [21:05] ok [21:08] will it help anything for you if i tell my graphick cards? [21:09] Slayers: i have asked that information, but the link should help you determine.. [21:09] holstein, is there a list of all the packages I need to install so I can use package manager , If I blindly follow the command line instructions my OS will be broken in no time [21:10] Slayers: one option is, amd has not offered a drvier for you that will support the funcionality you seek in linux [21:10] oh [21:11] should i try something else, like BAMT? [21:11] Slayers: you should keep in mind that the vendor hasnt promised you linux support, is my only point [21:12] ok [21:12] Slayers: you should try the supported driver in the repo that you and arceye are having a hard time installing [21:13]