[00:09] <jcbjoe> hi all is ubuntu-touch a full os yet or not ?
[00:09] <jcbjoe> i have a nexus 7 2013 and i would like to try a new os
[00:19] <jcbjoe> anyone ?
[00:41] <Manuz> tutti a nanna??
[00:44] <sergiusens> balloons, hey
[01:08] <Elleo> popey: did you mention a while back that you made a start on a pure QML app for accessing the amazon cloud reader?
[01:08] <Elleo> finally getting around to sorting out an erudite port and I figure a pure/mostly pure QML version would be preferable over the current qwidgets based implementation
[01:09] <Elleo> so if you've already got a start in that direction it might speed things along nicely :)
[04:16] <Artimidrous121> i am trying to install ubunut touch using ubuntu 12.04 and i keep getting the error ubuntu-device-flash: command not found
[04:16] <Artimidrous121> how can i fix this?
[04:24] <Artimidrous121> omg nevermind i feel dumb sudo apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash is working
[06:13] <Kishor> hi
[06:14] <Kishor> anyone knows if there is any development on Ubuntu OS for Xperia P
[06:19] <yyyy> hi
[07:16] <birka> :D
[09:15] <popey> Elleo: I don't, no.
[10:14] <polygonal> is there a way to get strip ubuntu touch down a server-like environment, like the equivalent of "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"?
[10:16] <polygonal> (touch hardware is broken, so unity is just taking up a lots of memory for nothing...)
[10:51] <Vyom> Alright.. I just heared Ubuntu Touch got EOLed for N7 2012, but then why is the Grouper image listed on cdimage site?
[10:53] <Vyom> Can anyone please answer my question?
[10:54] <Vyom> I flahed the gouper images through TWRP Multirom like I always do.. but getting just a blank screen.
[10:58] <Vyom> I have Nexus 7 2012 Wifi version btw.
[11:14] <Vyom> so long.. Ubuntu.  -__-
[11:14] <Vyom> You will be missed.
[11:17] <VincentInPC> hello, I have some questions about the Ubuntu Touch project, anyone to help me ?
[12:06] <Elleo> popey: ah, okay
[15:02] <marfik> Should an "About" section of an app be a popover or a dialog? It's accessed from a button on the toolbar.
[15:11] <cwayne> ogra_, happy birthday!
[15:11] <ogra_> cwayne, thanks !!
[15:21] <cwayne> ogra_, btw i added custom tarball support to rootstock, so you don't have to :)
[15:22] <ogra_> cwayne, oh ... please make an MP or so then, i'll happily merge it
[15:23] <cwayne> ogra_, https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/project-rootstock-ng/custom-tar/+merge/206599
[15:23] <ogra_> ah, good (sorry, havent read most of my mail today)
[15:23] <ogra_> i'll merge that tomorrow :)
[15:23] <cwayne> no rush :)
[15:27] <jcbjoe> umm
[15:27] <jcbjoe> is ubuntu-touch offical or is everything still in preview ? i have a nexus 7 i would really like to get it on
[15:27] <jcbjoe> also how is the battery life
[15:32] <sergiusens> ogra_, oh, happy bday!
[15:32] <ogra_> sergiusens, thanks !
[15:32] <sergiusens> ogra_, bier from dusk til dawn?
[15:33] <sergiusens> cheers
[15:33] <ogra_> still on coffee ... i got some "desparado" beer yesterday as a surprise ... will try it later :)
[15:33]  * sergiusens heads out to an 'asado
[15:33] <sergiusens> awesome
[15:33] <ogra_> (beer with tequila, i suspect it will taste awful, but we'll see :) )
[15:33] <cwayne> oh god
[15:57] <jcbjoe> anyone get that ?
[15:57] <jcbjoe> is ubuntu-touch offical or is everything still in preview ? i have a nexus 7 i would really like to get it on
[15:57] <jcbjoe> also how is the battery life
[17:30] <robert_1> hi guys, i have a problem to receive sms if the sms comes only with 5 numbers
[17:31] <robert_1> is the sms in the form like this "+491761234567" all is fine, but comes a sms in the form like this "55113" it will not be displayed
[17:32] <robert_1> can someone please tell me if, or where i can find the sms in my nexus4?
[17:36] <robert_1> if i receive a sms from a sender with only 5 numbers, the light on the phone goes on and i see the home-screen, further nothing happens.
[17:39] <ogra_> robert_1, you should see it in the messaging app as well as in the messaging indicator (the little envelope in the panel)
[17:40] <ogra_> robert_1, which channel is your install on ? is that trusty or saucy ?
[17:40] <ogra_> (i remember there was such a bug in saucy/stable that has long since been fixed in trusty)
[17:42] <robert_1> ogra_: hi, i have 13.10 (r101) yes, normal sms i see in the messaging app, but not the sms from a sender with only 5 numbers
[17:42] <ogra_> robert_1, i would suggest updating to the stable trusty channel then
[17:43] <ogra_> 13.10 is stable in the regard that it is not moving so developers have a platform to work on apps, but it will also not see bugs like the above fixed
[17:45] <robert_1> ogra_:  in trusty is it fixed?
[17:45] <ogra_> robert_1, connect your device with USB, then: adb shell system-image-cli --channel trusty -b 0
[17:45] <ogra_> yes, there it is fixed
[17:46] <ogra_> (add -v to the command if you want to see some output, note the download wont show output at all, it takes a while)
[17:48] <robert_1> ogra_:  thanks, atm i cannot do that, i will make that later today, with "-v" the command is: "adb shell system-image-cli --channel trusty -b 0 -v" ?
[17:48] <ogra_> yep
[17:52] <robert_1> ogra_:  thanks again, problem is, i cannot receive my mtan for receiving my shipment from the german packaging station, so my chocolate must wait for me :-)
[17:53] <ogra_> robert_1, yeah, i couldnt get the approval Id from G+ to get SMS notification to work for the phone
[17:54] <ogra_> this was bug 1238939 btw
[17:54] <robert_1> ogra_:  i see you understand me
[17:54] <ogra_> :)
[19:08] <manornk> Hi can anyone help me to port ubuntu on Geeksphone Peak
[19:20] <ice9> does Ubuntu touch support ARMv6?
[19:27] <frecel> does Ubuntu Touch support grid units in css?
[20:14] <jcbjoe> is ubuntu-touch offical or is everything still in preview ? i have a nexus 7 i would really like to get it on
[20:31] <snwh> anyone making an app and need an icon?
[20:33] <ajalkane> So I have a bunch of click packages that I see with "click install". How do I remove one of them? There's not "click remove" or such?
[20:33] <ajalkane> * sorry meant with "click list". Installed with "click install" :)
[20:35] <frecel> ajalkane: I think you can remove them with pkcon
[20:36] <daker> ajalkane: click unregister $PKGNAME --user=phablet
[20:36] <ajalkane> frecel: but how? Pkcon remove just says "This tool could not find the installe dpackage ..."
[20:37] <ajalkane> Doesn't the package name given by "click list" correspond in anyway with what pkcon undestands?
[20:40] <frecel> My understanding was that click uses pkcon but I would like to reserve my right to be completely wrong on this one
[20:40] <ajalkane> I respect your rights on that one.
[20:41] <ajalkane> I did use pkcon mostly to install those though. Just having trouble uninstalling.
[20:42] <frecel> when I istalled a package with pkcon last time I was able to just uninstall it using phone UI
[20:42] <popey> yes, remove with click
[20:42] <popey> as phablet, sudo click unregister com.ubuntu.foo 0.1
[20:42] <ajalkane> The problem is the installed package does not come up in the ui. Something wrong with the .desktop file I think
[20:42] <ajalkane> Ok so unregister is enough, thanks popey
[20:43]  * popey tries it on his phone to confirm
[20:43] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo click unregister de.djfun.akari 0.1.1
[20:43] <frecel> popey: I wrote the simon app, but I think there is a problem with how the click events are registered
[20:43] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ click list | grep akari
[20:43] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$
[20:43] <popey> so that worked
[20:44] <popey> frecel: interesting. i dont know much about html5, sorry, daker might though ☻
[20:44] <daker> ajalkane: once you install the click package you need to restart unity8
[20:44] <daker> ajalkane: adb shell pkill unity8
[20:45] <popey> no, you dont
[20:45] <ajalkane> popey: the command worked, but files were left behind (ls -ltr /opt/click.ubuntu.com/)
[20:45] <popey> you can search for the application and find it once installed, you don't need to kill unity
[20:45] <daker> frecel: ?
[20:46] <ajalkane> I'm pretty sure I had the icon coming up in installed apps at least for one click package I installed without restarting
[20:46] <popey> ajalkane: odd, the files were removed for me
[20:46] <ajalkane> Is it safe to just remove those directories? All's inside those click dirs?
[20:46] <popey> ajalkane: you used sudo?
[20:46] <ajalkane> Yeah I'm as root
[20:46] <popey> oh
[20:46] <popey> i did it as phablet, using sudo
[20:46] <frecel> daker: I wrote a Simon app (four colored buttons thing) and it just uses divs with onclick events to register clicks. It works perfectly fine on the desktop and FirefoxOS but on Touch the way it registrs clicks is very inconsistent
[20:47] <ajalkane> I'm with "adb shell" which logs in as root
[20:47] <frecel> daker: I will clean it up and throw the package up somewhere so you can test it yourself
[20:47] <popey> I did:- adb shell, sudo -u phablet -i, sudo click unregister com.ubuntu.foo 0.1
[20:48] <daker> frecel: do you have the code somewhere ?
[20:48] <daker> ah ok
[20:48] <ajalkane> For me adb shell goes directly as root
[20:48] <ajalkane> so I didn't bother going in as phablet and sudoing
[20:49] <ajalkane> Well I'll just do a "rm -rf" nuke bomb on those directories and try reinstalling and see what happens.
[20:54] <popey> ok
[20:54] <ajalkane> after "adb shell pkill unity8" do I have to do somet magic to get the emulator working again? It's unresponsive
[20:55] <popey> pass, i never kill unity
[20:55] <ajalkane> Interesting, seems like unity8 process is still running. I'll give more severe kill command.
[20:55] <popey> no need
[20:55] <ajalkane> I'm trying all my options before concluding the recent cmake changes have fuxored the .desktop file
[21:03] <ajalkane> what might mean that I get in .cache/upstar/application-legacy* named log file for the application I tried running (FileManager compiled from head). And I only get black screen running it
[21:54] <frecel> daker: I patched what I had to the point where it works and submitted the package to the store
[21:55] <frecel> it will probably get accepted once popey gets bored of minetest :D
[21:55] <popey> hah
[21:55] <popey> frecel: i cant see an app waiting for review
[21:59] <frecel> popey: Shows up in myapps.developer.ubuntu.com for me. Did I forget about some checkbox somewhere?
[22:02] <frecel> popey: ok there is a checkbox I missed
[22:02] <frecel> You should be able to see it now
[22:04] <popey> ok
[22:29] <frecel> daker: it's in the store
[22:30] <frecel> daker: it's called PopeySays
[22:34] <robert1> ogra_, hi, maybe you remember me, if i do so how you say, i become that http://paste.ubuntu.com/6945905/
[22:37] <daker> frecel: sorry my phone is under android now, can you share the code if that's possible ?
[22:37] <robert1> daker, hi, im not a developer or supporter, i need help too :-)
[22:37] <frecel> daker: sure, but the problem I get only happens when I actually run it on the phone
[22:42] <robert1> hi guys,  i would like Switch from Saucy to Trusty, i get that http://paste.ubuntu.com/6945905/ can someone please help
[22:42] <daker> robert1: it seems you do have some network error
[22:43] <daker> robert1: retry the same command again and see what will happen
[22:44] <frecel> daker: http://lucil.la/PopeySays.tar.gz
[22:45] <robert1> daker, same, https://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json:NETWORK
[22:45] <daker> robert1: can you access  https://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json in you browser ?
[22:46] <robert1> daker, yes i can
[22:46] <robert1> daker, my pc have 12.04
[22:51] <daker> robert1: not sure i can help with that :( it can be a bug
[22:51] <daker> frecel: what's not working ?
[22:51] <daker> the click events ?
[22:51] <frecel> daker: it works
[22:52] <frecel> daker: the detection of click events is kinda odd though, it obviously depends on the length of the click
[22:52] <frecel> daker: and the length it's set for just doesn't feel right
[22:52] <daker> frecel: the 300ms delay ?
[22:54] <robert1> daker, is there an other possibility to Switch from Saucy to Trusty?
[22:55] <frecel> daker: It might be caused by the delay but the problem is I'm having is that when I tap the screen the phone detects the tap but the rendering engine doesn't always detect the tap as a click
[22:56] <daker> robert1: for the phone ?
[22:56] <robert1> daker, yes
[22:57] <daker> not sure i have enough knowledge to help you
[22:58] <robert1> daker, must be the telephone in "developer mode" for switching from saucy to trusty?
[22:58] <robert1> daker, aka read-write?
[23:00] <nhaines> robert1: no, the phone never needs to be in read-write mode for anything official.
[23:00] <robert1> nhaines, ok, thanks
[23:01] <nhaines> robert1: the reason here is that the phone is rebooting into recovery and bootloader modes where filesystems are just being entirely replaced.  So no user setting will matter.  :)
[23:20] <frecel> daker: do you know why overflow: hidden doesn't seem to work for touch?
[23:21] <daker> frecel: using the HTML5 SDK or just a normal thing ?
[23:21] <frecel> using HTML5 sdk
[23:23] <daker> frecel: interesting, can you fill a bug with an example+screenshot https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-html5-theme/+filebug ?
[23:24] <frecel> I will look into it more first because I think this is a webkit bug
[23:24] <daker> frecel: ok
[23:25] <daker> frecel: if you think it's a bug in the SDK just report it there
[23:25] <frecel> sure thing
[23:27] <daker> thanks
[23:27] <frecel> Speaking of SDK i think some of the divs in templates and the documentation need to be replaced with sections in order for it to be w3c compliant
[23:30] <daker> frecel: we are going to have a meeting next friday, if you can report your issues/concerns that would be awesome :)
[23:30] <frecel> daker: should I just report them as bugs?
[23:30] <daker> frecel: yes
[23:32] <frecel> I'm not making any promisses but I will try to make time for it
[23:32] <daker> thank you :)