[06:23] <Kilos> morning all
[06:25] <Squirm> morning
[06:25] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:33] <Trixar_za> Oh hey Squirm
[06:34] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[06:34] <Trixar_za> Who was this 'pi' user?
[06:34] <Trixar_za> Morning Kilos
[09:26] <Squirm> happy birthday Trixar_za !
[09:26] <Squirm> you're getting old bud
[09:26] <Kilos> haha happy birthday Trixar_za 
[10:56] <charl> good morning
[10:57] <charl> Maaz_: coffee on
[10:57]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[11:01] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl!
[11:01] <charl> Maaz_: thanks
[11:01] <Maaz_> charl: Okay :-)
[12:54] <charl> wb Kilos 
[14:35] <Kilos> ohi ty charl 
[15:20] <charl> hi Kilos 
[15:23] <theblazehen> hey Kilos charl
[15:23] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[15:25] <theblazehen> charl, how fast is your net?
[15:27] <charl> hi theblazehen 
[15:27] <charl> at home or at work?
[15:27] <charl> at home i am on crappy ziggo cable internet
[15:28] <charl> at work we have gigabit ethernet with fibre link between buildings and 40gbps uplink in addition to a link to the internet exchange across the road
[15:28] <theblazehen> charl, wherever you can run a cryptocurrency?
[15:29] <charl> my home internet is this: https://www.ziggo.nl/#producten/alles-in-1/extra
[15:29] <charl> i don't use cryptocurrency
[15:29] <theblazehen> kk
[15:29] <theblazehen> Was hoping you could help stress-test
[15:30] <theblazehen> currently doing 30 tx/s
[15:30] <charl> i don't know how that works, cryptocurrency
[15:30] <charl> isn't it cpu-intensive ?
[15:30] <theblazehen> only initial sync
[15:30] <theblazehen> But mining is often done on GPU, but mostly ASIC for bitcoin
[15:31] <charl> application specific integrated circuit ?
[15:31] <charl> some special chips they use?
[15:31] <theblazehen> yeah
[15:31] <theblazehen> do sha256 really fast
[15:31] <charl> a friend of mine does it on his mobile phone
[15:31] <charl> some android stuff, no idea, no interest either really
[15:31] <theblazehen> just the client I assume?
[15:31] <theblazehen> ah
[15:32] <charl> afaik he can mine too
[15:32] <charl> but he has a gpu cluster at home
[15:32] <charl> he took a old rack-mounted server thing, big box
[15:32] <charl> and he stuffed it full of as many gpus as possible
[15:32] <charl> maybe he has a picture up, lemme check
[15:33] <theblazehen> ooh nice
[15:33] <theblazehen> How much cash did he lose past week?
[15:33] <theblazehen> I'm gonna get gpu soon
[15:33] <theblazehen> ROI in 3 months
[15:35] <charl> no idea, haven't spoken to him in the last week
[15:35] <theblazehen> kk
[15:35] <charl> oooh it's a mess but look through this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/twobombs/sets/72157626536549115/
[15:35] <theblazehen> price dropped really dar
[15:36] <theblazehen> far*
[15:36] <charl> his computer is a complete disaster
[15:37] <charl> i have never seen such a "kloterij" in my life
[15:37] <theblazehen> he does bitcoin on nvidia cards?!
[15:39] <charl> i have never seen kabelsalat like that in my life
[15:39] <charl> my head hurts and my stomach turns when i look at his machine
[15:41] <theblazehen> lol
[15:41] <charl> look at that one photo he stuck an extra PSU at his machine with ducktape
[15:41] <charl> just to power all the gpus
[15:42] <charl> is that englishman's site back up again?
[15:42] <charl> that one that got ddosed a few weeks back
[15:42] <theblazehen> yeah, site is back up
[15:42] <theblazehen> And beta going good
[15:42] <charl> what's the url again ?
[15:43] <theblazehen> emunie.com
[15:43] <theblazehen> crypto currency that I was talking about now
[15:44] <charl> ooh it's a java app ...
[15:44] <charl> that's can't be fast for mining ?
[15:44] <theblazehen> actually it's fast enough
[15:44] <charl> calculations it's pretty good but can you access gpus ?
[15:45] <charl> i am a java developer myself
[15:45] <theblazehen> this won't run on GPU
[15:45] <theblazehen> And needs fast DB
[15:45] <charl> what happened to the claims he's a fraud and his passport photo
[15:45] <theblazehen> totally different to other cryptos
[15:45] <theblazehen> Not sure, stopped paying attention to those guys
[15:46] <charl> hold on if it's not processing-intensive how does it work
[15:46] <charl> how do you create artificial scarcity
[15:47] <theblazehen> What do you mean?
[15:47] <charl> i mean to generate bitboins are difficult
[15:47] <charl> computationally expensive
[15:47] <charl> so you can only generate a limited number of them
[15:47] <theblazehen> The transaction is verified 3 times by different hatchers, then each gets share of tx fee
[15:47] <charl> that's why they are worth something
[15:48] <theblazehen> And theen to produce more there is interest and hatchers get paid based on amount of tx verified
[15:48] <charl> oh it's a whole different model
[15:48] <charl> not based on a computationally expensive algorithm ?
[15:49] <theblazehen> nope
[15:49] <charl> ah ok now i get why it's a java app :)
[15:49] <theblazehen> why?
[15:49] <charl> if you don't need gpus etc
[15:50] <theblazehen> ah, yeah
[15:54] <psydroid> hi charl 
[15:54] <psydroid> hi theblazehen 
[15:54] <psydroid> why are these apps even written in java?
[15:54] <theblazehen> hi psydroid 
[15:54] <theblazehen> psydroid, easy dev?
[15:54] <psydroid> theblazehen, I guess so, yes
[15:55] <charl> hi psydroid 
[15:55] <psydroid> but I don't find it takes me significantly more time to write in c++
[15:55] <charl> java is nice for developing web app backends
[15:55] <psydroid> there are just way more possibilities to shoot yourself in the foot
[15:55] <charl> because all the biggest frameworks are written in java
[15:56] <psydroid> yes, I understand
[15:56] <charl> i like writing web app backends in java and web-related stuff
[15:57] <charl> but for good applications that run directly on the computer, definitely c or python
[15:58] <psydroid> yes
[16:39] <inetpro> Kilos: what frequency can I use to irritate the neighborhoods dogs?
[16:40] <Kilos> lol
[16:40] <Kilos> http://www.instructables.com/answers/What-ultrasonic-frequency-actually-hurts-dogs/
[16:42] <Kilos> i havent tried ones to worry dogs but if that works it will affect your dogs too
[16:55] <inetpro> I'll try it again next time, for now they are quiet again
[16:55] <Kilos> lol
[16:56] <Kilos> you undertand frequencies now inetpro ?
[16:56] <inetpro> well
[16:57] <inetpro> I think it's more the noise levels that scare the animals than anything else
[16:57] <Kilos> every different sound is a different frequency
[16:57] <Kilos> as is every colour too
[16:58] <Kilos> peeps and all animals are sensitive to certain frequencies
[16:58] <Kilos> some hurt
[16:58] <inetpro> I'm not so sure the PC speaker is accurate
[16:58] <Kilos> it should be close
[16:59] <Kilos> not sure how fast they can actually vibrate
[16:59] <Kilos> i dunno if you get special high definition speakers
[17:00] <inetpro> playing with modulate on FM produces some interesting sound variations
[17:00] <Kilos> lol ya but fm is high normally\
[17:00] <Kilos> like our radio stations
[17:02] <inetpro> could build a house alarm with this thing
[17:02] <inetpro> burglar alarm as well
[17:02] <Kilos> they sounds/frequencies to affect bugs are beyond our hearing
[17:02] <Kilos> lol
[17:50] <Kilos> haha inetpro i just mailed telkom and asked if they can put a wifi goodie by this cell tower
[17:50] <Kilos> this is the reply
[17:50] <inetpro> haha, good luck :-)
[17:50] <Kilos> Please note that we will send this to our planning team. Thank you for supporting 8ta
[17:50] <inetpro> they will most probably laugh at that
[17:51] <Kilos> well lets hope
[17:51] <inetpro> there's very lttle hope
[17:51] <Kilos> there are lots of businesses in the area so who knows
[17:52] <inetpro> you must be joking
[17:52] <Kilos> it cost me i email so what can i lose
[17:59] <Kilos> 1
[19:56] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight