[00:00] <Beldar> NetCatty, Why not load an image/release to the phone that will run the backup as an option.
[00:00] <Beldar> cwm is a free download, just need root is all I believe
[00:01] <nathaneltitane> hello! i would like to become a maintainer for an application that hasn'T been updated for a while as a deb package. I have created my ppa, generated the project, described the branch and asked for a pull (CVS), the first build attempt returned this: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166382622/buildlog.txt.gz
[00:01] <nathaneltitane> i am not really experienced with any of this.. could someone help me please?
[00:04] <harsesus> this isn
[00:05] <harsesus> t the dev channel
[00:06] <rww> nathaneltitane: have you set up bzr launchpad-login yet?
[00:06] <harsesus> that would be #ubuntu_devel i believe
[00:06] <rww> #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-packaging
[00:06] <nathaneltitane> rww: i've done it all through the launchpad web platform
[00:06] <nathaneltitane> and no, i do not think i have
[00:07] <nathaneltitane> harsesus: thanks
[00:07] <rww> nathaneltitane: probably want to ask one of those channels, I don't do packaging work so they probably have better instructions than me :)
[00:07] <fredlllll> hello. i have a problem using my Avertv A800 in ubuntu 13.10. it doesnt show a frontend0. when booting it says "no frontend attached by ...."
[00:10] <fredlllll>  hello. i have a problem using my Avertv A800 in ubuntu 13.10. it doesnt show a frontend0. when booting it says "no frontend attached by ...." any idea?
[00:12] <pietiebrein> Hi all, does anyone know how to do a frugal install of a 13.10 iso from 12.04 (meaning no external media)?
[00:12] <LeMike> where to ask questions about makefile ? i wonder if I can have a group that is "invisible" to the make command
[00:13] <TJ-> LeMike: You could do it using ACLs
[00:14] <TJ-> LeMike: see for example https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[00:17] <LeMike> Hm. Well I just learn makefiles, I call those "foo:" groups. Currently I like to include another group "install:" but want to avoid that `make install` can be run. In addition it seems like variables can't be defined in that "group"
[00:17] <LeMike> But thanks TJ- . got to google a lot
[00:19] <TJ-> LeMike: You're lost me!
[00:20] <LeMike> Line https://gist.github.com/sourcerer-mike/f6516962d7d0e752bf69#file-makefile-L13 is my current problem. After that I try to "include" another "group"
[00:21] <silenz> hey how can i check if the latest graphics drivers have been installed?
[00:22] <z1haze> anyone have experience battling an ntp attack?
[00:22] <LeMike> silenz: lshw -c video
[00:23] <Beldar> silenz, The updates give you the latest in the repos for your release.
[00:23] <silenz> ah ok
[00:23] <z1haze> just nulled my box and was good up to 20gbps
[00:23] <silenz> the gui seems a little laggy in ubuntu
[00:23] <silenz> like slightly laggy i dunno if thats just ubuntu or what
[00:28] <LeMike> can a makefile group call another group but with using the local variables TJ- ?
[00:29] <Beldar> pietiebrein, you could do a netboot (mini) as a frugal, and use grub to boot the iso. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[00:31] <pietiebrein> I've tried using Unetbootin, but GRUB complained about a kernel needing to be loaded. I think Unetbootin might be obsolete.
[00:35] <Beldar> pietiebrein, handfulls of usb loaders, make sure the sum on the iso is correct and if needed reformat the usb or try another.
[00:36] <impossible> what can i use to download audio from youtube videos into OGG format
[00:36] <impossible> i dont wanna use media human, any open source apps?
[00:38] <pietiebrein> thanks for the help
[00:39] <yeiner> hola
[00:40] <jatt> I installed the saucy hardware enablement package on 12.04 and after that there is no /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[00:40] <jatt> everything works but the xorg log file is not there
[00:40] <jatt> is this a known problem?
[00:43] <ldiamond_> I can't seem to find moonlight on ubuntu. I installed mono but I still can't run silverlight websites. Trying to install moonlight takes me to dead pages on the mono project. Anyone know how to get moonlight?
[00:43] <rww> ldiamond_: you don't, because it's discontinued
[00:44] <tgp1994> Hi everyone, I'm trying to setup nxserver, although when I connect with the client, it says that an unknown command was issued and it drops the connection. nxserver.log is not being written to despite me setting it to 5 in the config and rebooting the server, can someone help explain why logging is not working?
[00:44] <ldiamond_> rww what's the alternative?
[00:44] <rww> ldiamond_: no idea, sorry
[00:45] <lukemorrison> ldiamond_:  Which websites are you trying to access?
[00:45] <ldiamond_> Funny thing the Microsoft website forwards to Mono's website for installing silverlight.
[00:46] <ldiamond_> DrTax ufile t2
[00:46] <rww> because silverlight is also discontinued
[00:46] <ldiamond_> some crappy software really.
[00:46] <ldiamond_> Oh really?
[00:46] <ldiamond_> Wow, I always wondered why people wrote silverlight software
[00:46] <rww> yep, as of 2012
[00:46] <rww> erm, wrong date. but it is
[00:48] <krille> zup
[00:48] <n^izzo> ldiamond_: I had the same problem, I ended up making a vertual box
[00:48] <lukemorrison> ldiamond_:http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[00:48] <ldiamond_> yea I usually run it in a VM
[00:48] <ldiamond_> but I thought I'd give it a try on mono
[00:49] <krille> any1 got RUST working on any linux dist?
[00:49] <apb1963> Is there any reason I should not change my display manager from kdm to something else?
[00:50] <krille> Why do you want to change?
[00:51] <apb1963> krille: Too many problems and I want to rule it out as the source
[00:51] <canaima> xd
[00:51] <krille> what kind of problems, also how to reply?
[00:52] <canaima> aalguien habla español
[00:52] <TJ-> !es | canaima
[00:52] <krille> But yeah, i switched from kdm to lightdm
[00:52] <krille> solved some problems, generated others :)
[00:52] <apb1963> krille: This link is essentially a pretty good description of my problem..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335101
[00:53] <apb1963> krille: Are there any gotchas I should be aware of before I make the switch?
[00:55] <krille> Not that i am aware of, that problem you were having was kinda large. so do the switch and hope it works
[00:55] <krille> I have to go now, hope someone here can help you!
[00:55] <OerHeks> apb1963, so how urgent is that issue from 2009 today?
[00:56] <apb1963> OerHeks: I don't understand your question
[00:57] <OerHeks> apb1963, that post,it does not show what hardware, so it is a wild guess what your issue will be
[00:57] <OerHeks> * with your hardware
[00:58] <apb1963> OerHeks: It's hard to imagine it would be the hardware - which in turn implies it would be driver specific, when in fact there are a   variety of people reporiting similar problems
[00:58] <apb1963> sorry for the typos... the repos have an old version of KVirc and it also has a bug
[00:59] <robodude> hello
[01:00] <apb1963> OerHeks: The bug I'm having is with a trapped mouse
[01:00] <robodude> where is the mouse trapped?
[01:00] <apb1963> OerHeks: Fortunately it seems to be limited to s aingle app.
[01:00] <tgp1994> I'm trying to setup nxserver, although when I connect with the client, it says that an unknown command was issued and it drops the connection. nxserver.log is not being written to despite me setting it to 5 in the config and rebooting the server, can someone help explain why logging is not working?
[01:00] <apb1963> robodude: It seems to get trapped inside nixnotes
[01:01] <apb1963> -s
[01:01] <apb1963> robodude: if I rightclick - no matter what desktop I'm in or what other window... I get the nixnote menu
[01:01] <apb1963> robodude: if I show/hide nixnote, that seems to fix it.
[01:02] <at54tl> hello
[01:02] <robodude> apb1963: ok, is nixnote up to date?
[01:02] <apb1963> robodude: yes
[01:02] <robodude> ok
[01:02] <robodude> apb1963: what version ubuntu you running?
[01:03] <apb1963> 12.04
[01:03] <at54tl> i need help in changing the font color for when I type message in xchat please..
[01:03] <at54tl> 13.10 x64
[01:04] <robodude> apb1963: Are you using a desktop system other than the default?
[01:04] <apb1963> kde-desktop
[01:05] <TJ-> apb1963: You're very much *not* alone, there are widespread reports of the issue and it affected me for a time when I was using 9.x through 12.04, I used to Ctrl+Alt+F1 then Alt+F7 back to X to workaround it. I spent a lot of time trying to diagnose it but never could get to the root cause.
[01:05] <OerHeks> nixnote from ppa?
[01:06] <at54tl> i need help in changing the font color for when I type message in xchat please..
[01:07] <TJ-> apb1963: Also, if you have a terminal session running, try doing "xdotool key XF86Ungrab"
[01:08] <Brett_> Hello, I have just installed Ubuntu minimal on my computer. Is there a way to upgrade everything to normal Ubuntu from here?
[01:08] <TJ-> Brett_: normal? You mean Desktop?
[01:08] <Brett_> Yes
[01:08] <TJ-> Brett_: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:08] <Brett_> Okay, I will try that
[01:08] <apb1963> tj- what's that do?
[01:09] <lukemorrison> at54tl: Look at the Preferences menu under Settings
[01:09] <TJ-> apb1963: what it says! ungrabs the pointer
[01:09] <at54tl> .
[01:10] <jjholt> I have a laptop with a Mini-PCIE/MSATA SSD what filesystem should I use? I've been told that using a journaling FS is bad for ssd's
[01:10] <bernardoct> Hi y'all! I'm trying to run a java swing application on Ubuntu 13.10 but the GUI is not showing. It's a code from my class and I've seen it woring, so I'm sure the code is not the problem. Any ideas?
[01:10] <Guest16085> hi everybody i have a problem with my external hard disk...look like ubuntu don't recognize
[01:10] <at54tl> i click on a color and it wont apply it
[01:11] <lukemorrison> Test
[01:11] <Guest16085> someone can help me?
[01:12] <lukemorrison> Guest16085: Does Windows see the drive?
[01:12] <herpderphurr> Guest16085: What sort of external HDD is it?
[01:13] <Guest16085> is a wb essential
[01:13] <Guest16085> usb to mini usb
[01:13] <at54tl> so what do i to change font color?
[01:14] <TJ-> Guest16085: In what circumstance does Ubuntu no 'see' the drive? From a Live ISO try session, during installation, after installation in a regular session?
[01:14] <herpderphurr> When I look in htop, the memory is separated into 3 sections: used, buffers, and cache. What do buffers and cache mean?
[01:14] <at54tl> .
[01:15] <JordanJ2> Does Ubuntu support booting with secure boot and UEFI enabled?
[01:15] <Guest16085> now i am in live...i have w7 and also ther not show me hard disk external
[01:15] <bazhang> at54tl, try in #xchat
[01:15] <Guest16085> hard disk make sound start and stop
[01:16] <TJ-> herpderphurr: See "man 8 vmstat" and the section on Memory
[01:16] <herpderphurr> Thanks TJ-
[01:16] <TJ-> JordanJ2: Yes
[01:18] <barry_> hi was looking for some advice on installing flash players any resources ?
[01:18] <barry_> thanks in advance
[01:19] <rww> !flash
[01:19] <barry_> tyvm
[01:19] <JordanJ2> TJ-, So I should be fine dualbooting with Windows 8?
[01:22] <blx32> Boa noite
[01:22] <TJ-> JordanJ2: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:23] <blx32> Algum brasileiro?
[01:23] <ggreer> JordanJ2: it took some effort, but I managed to get dual-booting working. make absolutely sure you have a separate restore disk
[01:23] <ggreer> you can create one in windows 8
[01:23] <rww> !br | blx32
[01:23] <clypso> Hey. I cannot get my microphone to work. I check sound settings and it shows for my webcam that its there. Mute is not on. Alsamixer is all setup high and nothing is muted. I have no idea why it wont play any sound ><
[01:23] <clypso> Record any sound****
[01:24] <blx32> Obrigado
[01:29] <JordanJ2> ggreer, I believe I have one
[01:29] <ggreer> ok, cool
[01:29] <JordanJ2> I made one with acer
[01:29] <ggreer> don't want to lose your windows 8 install completely :)
[01:30] <JordanJ2> The acer one should be good right?
[01:32] <clypso> I cannot get my microphone to work. I have checked alsamixer and seen that all volume is up. I have checked "Sound Settings" and it also shows my webcam (which is the microphone) and shows that its working properly. Yet it does not make any sounds at all. I also made sure mute was not selected.
[01:32] <ggreer> I don't know. probably
[01:34] <christian__> Hello, Cant download the GPU Drivers i need for Linux Zorin8. I have the .run file but it wont install.
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> christian__: zorin8 is not supported here
[01:35] <TJ-> clypso: If the camera has a microphone, is it connected via a USB audio device, or by analog connection to the default sound device's input port?
[01:35] <christian__> Well I think they are similar in how they run a .run file. What do I open it with?
[01:38] <Smurfier> Anyone feel like helping with a network issue?
[01:38] <Stainedhat> christian__: you would just "chmod +x file.run" to make sure it's executable then run it with "./file.run"
[01:38] <clypso> It is connected via USB @TJ
[01:38] <Stainedhat> christian__: if it doesn't install the drivers correctly it probably needs to be patched.. amd is notorius for having limited support. I think only 12.04 is supported right now
[01:39] <Dbugger> hey guys. Is there a command in the Terminal I can use to get the IP address to where a URL resolves?
[01:39] <Stainedhat> whats the problem Smurfier?
[01:39] <Stainedhat> Dbugger: dig url.com
[01:39] <Smurfier> Stainedhat: I'm trying to get my Ubuntu machine and my windows network to get along.
[01:39] <Dbugger> Stainedhat, thabks!
[01:39] <Stainedhat> or dig +short url.com for just the ip
[01:39] <Dbugger> *Thanks
[01:39] <lukemorrison> christian__: You can also try #ZorinOS
[01:39] <Stainedhat> no prob
[01:40] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: why aren't they playing nice?
[01:40] <TJ-> clypso: you probably have to select the usb audio device as the default input device, usually the alsa config sets it to -2 priority
[01:40] <clypso> Creative Live Cam Optia Pro VF0380 Web Cam. That is my webcam brand. It connects via USB @Tj
[01:40] <clypso> How do i do this TJ
[01:40] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: or maybe I should ask what are your trying to do between them
[01:41] <Smurfier> Don't know. Never had this happen before. All of the computers can ping each other, but the ubuntu one doesn't show up on the network or sees the windows machines.
[01:41] <Smurfier> Just trying to share files.
[01:42] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: have you setup samba?
[01:42] <Smurfier> Yes.
[01:42] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: is the share on the windows machine or the ubuntu machine?
[01:43] <Smurfier> Both.
[01:44] <Stainedhat> are you running windows 7 or 8?
[01:44] <Smurfier> 8 on my laptop, 7 on my desktop
[01:44] <clypso> HEY TJ. It shows "Front Mic" under Realtek ALC7888 chip. Instead of my webcam. How do i switch this ?
[01:45] <Stainedhat> i think in 8 you need to turn on network discovery and file sharing.. search for network and sharing center the change advanced sharing settings.. turn on both then check for the other shares on your ubuntu machine
[01:45] <Smurfier> Did that about a month ago.
[01:46] <cuddylier> To use a SSD as cache on ubuntu do I need a hardware RAID card?
[01:47] <TJ-> clypso: From what I can see, the Linux kernel mainline doesn't have support for that device
[01:47] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: have you tried mounting it with mount.cifs on the ubuntu machine?? and you've edited your smb.conf with your linux share?
[01:48] <mguy> cuddylier: RAID has nothing to do with SSD caching
[01:48] <clypso> Well i have had this webcam microphone working before. But ok =/... It was working on ubuntu too
[01:48] <cuddylier> Okay,  my knowledge is more lacking than I thought
[01:48] <Smurfier> Stainedhat: Don't know how to mount that. I added the share via the gui and checked the file to make sure it was there. If I use the ip address through windows I can get to the share.
[01:48] <cuddylier> mguy Am I able to use a SSD as cache with no extra hardware then?
[01:49] <Smurfier> Just can't get ubuntu to see the windows network.
[01:49] <mguy> cuddylier: You need software support
[01:49] <cuddylier> mguy Is that in ubuntu by default? I couldn't find a lot on Google about it.
[01:51] <TJ-> clypso: OK, maybe it is recognised automatically by the driver but the config has problems, but I see bug reports for other distros about it, and don't see any quirks handling for its ID in the kernel driver
[01:51] <clypso> yea . Very depressing haha
[01:52] <clypso> So maybe just throw webcam in a big bond fire with my windows cd's ?
[01:52] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: Ok, so it works from the windows side to linux which is good. for the windows share to mount in linux you may need to type the following: "sudo mount.cifs //windowsIP/sharename /home/user/mountpoint -o user=username"
[01:53] <Stainedhat> make sure the directory /home/user/mountpoint exists and is empty
[01:53] <mguy> cuddylier: no it is not
[01:54] <TJ-> clypso: does it show up in the log files when it's connected? unplug, do "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" then plug-in, wait until the messages stop, then Ctrl+C to stop the tail. Then !pastebinit the output so I can look
[01:54] <cuddylier> Do you happen to know where I can find documentation on it? I'm a complete noob.
[01:54] <cuddylier> mguy
[01:54] <TJ-> cuddylier: To use an SSD as a cache, you would use "bcache" - block cache
[01:54] <derek> Can someone help me with audio on 13.10? Fresh install.
[01:55] <mguy> cuddylier: http://askubuntu.com/questions/252140/how-do-i-install-and-use-flashcache-bcache-to-cache-hdd-to-ssd
[01:55] <Smurfier> Stainedhat: command not found
[01:57] <Guest62820> does anyone know an easy method for software overclocking my arm enabled ubuntu device?
[01:57] <cuddylier> hmm.. SSD cache seems quite complicated to setup
[01:58] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: ok just try: "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=username,password=yourpass //windowsIP/sharename /home/user/mountpoint"
[01:58] <Xuisce1> hi all
[01:58] <lucasredsn0w> hi
[01:58] <Guest62820> hola
[01:58] <Guest62820> does anyone know an easy method for software overclocking my arm enabled ubuntu device?
[02:00] <irssi-mike> i've used setfsb but not from linux and not with arm
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> Guest62820: that would be a hardware dependent thing. you'd have to ask peeps who use the same processor
[02:02] <RedLance> Greetings.  My Ubuntu 12.04 LTS box is saturating my internet connection.  How can I figure out what it's running that would do that?
[02:02] <Smurfier> Stainedhat: Success! (until my laptop's ip address changes)
[02:02] <lucasredsn0w> Is it ok to replace gcc with llvm as the system's default compiler?
[02:03] <Stainedhat> Smurfier: cool, just set your laptop up with a static ip and you're good to go
[02:03] <TJ-> RedLance: "iftop"
[02:03] <Stainedhat> RedLance: Wireshark
[02:03] <lucasredsn0w> Oh I love WireShark
[02:04] <RedLance> Wireshark looked good, until it said I had no adapters capable of capturing...Will iftop have the same requirment?
[02:04] <FuuqUmiist> so how do i make a shortcut to a file on the panel?
[02:04] <lucasredsn0w> I will now compile it
[02:04] <lucasredsn0w> RedLance: run it as root
[02:04] <lucasredsn0w> iftop works for me
[02:04] <RedLance> lucasredsn0w: Ahhh, ok, thanks
[02:05] <Stainedhat> ahh yes, iftop would be good to isolate the traffic to a particular process.. no no problems with iftop
[02:05] <Stainedhat> and yes, sudo wireshark then ignor the warning
[02:05] <TJ-> RedLance: iftop is the utility to use. "sudo apt-get install iftop" then  "sudo iftop -i <interface-name>" e.g. "sudo iftop -i eth0"
[02:05] <RedLance> Will either one of them work if I have the network cable disconnected?
[02:05] <derek> I just installed 13.10 and my audio isn't working. I've checked alsa mixer and nothing is muted; speakers are known good (work on my win 7 machine), and I've selected the correct output (HDA Intel PCH). Can someone give me a hand?>
[02:05] <lucasredsn0w>  Ahh... I'm not quite sure
[02:06] <Stainedhat> RedLance: yes, just choose your wireless adapter as the capture interface
[02:06] <TJ-> RedLance: The interfaces don't go away, so yes, of course.
[02:06] <RedLance> Stainedhat: No wireless in this box
[02:06] <TJ-> RedLance: obviously, nothing will be happening so you'll not see any data
[02:07] <mguy> RedLance: Does your firewall/gateway show traffic stats at all?
[02:07] <TJ-> RedLance: also, learn how to use it: "man iftop"
[02:07] <RedLance> Alright, I'll have to make the rest of the family "suffer" while I get some traffic
[02:07] <RedLance> mguy: Sadly no...
[02:07] <Stainedhat> RedLance: my bad i misread your question.. yes but i don't think you'll see much traffic with the interface disconnected
[02:08] <lucasredsn0w> RedLance: Yesterday I've attacked my home router with my computer
[02:08] <RedLance> Ok, thanks everybody.  I'll go give it a whirl.
[02:08] <Stainedhat> RedLance: you can also try lsof -i
[02:08] <lucasredsn0w> And my home's network shut down
[02:08] <lucasredsn0w> For.. nearly an hour
[02:08] <lucasredsn0w> I've sent 100GB of traffic to the router
[02:09] <irssi-mike> RedLance: if you're wireless and connecting from an old machine a mixed mode router would drop when you connect to it overall
[02:09] <Stainedhat> lol lucasredsn0w that sucks.. same thing happened to me when I was testing zmap.. started vthe scan and within 10 second the entire network ground to a halt
[02:09] <RedLance> irssi-mike: Nope, not wireless.
[02:09] <AmbiguousOutlier> where do i put the iso on host for kvm?
[02:09] <RedLance> When I hook mine back up, my ping times to my ISP nameserver go from 6ms to 4000ms
[02:09] <lucasredsn0w> AmbiguousOutlier: Anywhere you want
[02:10] <lucasredsn0w> And edit the settings
[02:10] <AmbiguousOutlier> lucasredsn0w: i can't navigate to it?!
[02:10] <derek> I just installed 13.10 and my audio isn't working. I've checked alsa mixer and nothing is muted; speakers are known good (work on my win 7 machine), and I've selected the correct output (HDA Intel PCH). Can someone give me a hand?
[02:11] <lucasredsn0w> AmbiguousOutlier: ah....
[02:11] <AmbiguousOutlier> Checking installer location failed: Could not find media '/mnt/afs/documents/Virtual Machine/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso'.
[02:11] <RedLance> Thanks again everybody!
[02:11] <Xuisce1> np RedLance
[02:11] <lucasredsn0w> AmbiguousOutlier: Recheck your path again
[02:11] <lucasredsn0w> And make sure your kvm have the +r access
[02:12] <skraito-0x71> hi all
[02:12] <skraito-0x71> :)
[02:12] <irssi-mike> derek: could be hardware failure, if not that i suspect it really is muted, try installing gnome-alsamixer and confirm it twice that is not muted also make sure you are in the audio group
[02:12] <Xuisce1> hi skraito-0x71
[02:12] <Xuisce1> welcome to #ubuntu
[02:12] <irssi-mike> derek: pulseaudio has config files you can alter to unmute at system level
[02:12] <skraito-0x71> hey guys
[02:13] <skraito-0x71> :) nah i don't want to say this
[02:13] <skraito-0x71> but Our os is really good guys
[02:13] <skraito-0x71> we are sorry ubuntu
[02:13] <skraito-0x71> thx Xuiscel
[02:13] <skraito-0x71> is linux
[02:13] <lucasredsn0w> skraito-0x71: Tell us the reason
[02:13] <lucasredsn0w> Why "your os" is better than ours
[02:13] <skraito-0x71> is coded from scracth
[02:13] <pietro10> Is there a way I can find out what a  GTK+ and a KDE program see as the fontconfig? so I can figure out why my GTK+ programs use different font rendering in the absence of fonts.conf - http://imgur.com/dyfjNcz (GTK left, KDE right) - Thanks.
[02:13] <kloeri> skraito-0x71: no more spam please
[02:14] <lucasredsn0w> skraito-0x71: A lot of os is coded from scratch
[02:14] <Stainedhat> skraito-0x71: what exactly is your os?
[02:14] <lucasredsn0w> skraito-0x71: And there is Ubuntu channel so other topic are not so welcomed
[02:14] <lucasredsn0w> this is
[02:14] <derek> irssi-mike: just checked in gnome-alsamixer... nothing is muted. it's not a hardware failure either. Sound worked an hour ago when this machine ran Windows.
[02:14] <skraito-0x71> http://astaraos.0x71.org
[02:14] <skraito-0x71> take alook you'r self
[02:14] <skraito-0x71> i upload kde version soon
[02:14] <chare> I am liking linux mint
[02:14] <chare> going to completely abandon ubuntu
[02:14] <Stainedhat> skraito-0x71: no, but thanks for the offer haha
[02:14] <chare> and yo guys can't stop me
[02:15] <Xuisce1> nice
[02:15] <Xuisce1> umm ok chare  whawtever you want
[02:15] <Xuisce1> :)
[02:15] <chare> we both know that ubuntu has become crap
[02:15] <derek> maybe a permissions issue.
[02:16] <derek> let me try something
[02:16] <Xuisce1> chare:  ok
[02:17] <Plasmastar> His site misidentied me as a proxy.
[02:17] <Plasmastar> misidentified*
[02:18] <IdleOne> back to your regularly scheduled support :)
[02:18] <roadrunner> h,i everyone
[02:18] <roadrunner> is there anybody?
[02:19] <jonbryan> nope :x
[02:19] <roadrunner> guys I wanna ask question about Perl
[02:19] <AmbiguousOutlier> lucasredsn0w: hi, I triple checked iso location and tried via local and network install, not sure what you meant by +r access
[02:19] <irssi-mike> derek: the pulseaudio conf i metioned is in /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output-speaker.conf
[02:20] <lucasredsn0w> AmbiguousOutlier: chmod
[02:20] <Bashing-om> !ask roadrunner
[02:20] <Stainedhat> Plasmastar: that site was a trap
[02:20] <roadrunner> is it possible programming TCP with Perl?
[02:20] <Plasmastar> Stainedhat: How so?
[02:21] <AmbiguousOutlier> lucasredsn0w: I have permission, virsh -c qemu:///system list, returns what wiki said it should
[02:21] <roadrunner> I develop multiplayer game. I need to learn how to Socket Programming
[02:22] <lucasredsn0w> Strange..
[02:22] <roadrunner> where can I learn this topic with usage Java or Perl
[02:23] <Stainedhat> Plasmastar: The site redirected to 0x71.org which is full of stuff like this: "0x71 (xc) Our True Jesus Church Hacker 0day xExploit"
[02:23] <irssi-mike> roadrunner: isn't there a perl channel
[02:23] <AmbiguousOutlier> rmmod kvm
[02:23] <AmbiguousOutlier> Error: Module kvm is in use by: kvm_intel
[02:23] <Plasmastar> Stainedhat: Ssshhh, not so loud. xD
[02:23] <rww> Stainedhat: it isn't a trap, it's just a highly delusional person. let's move on
[02:23] <Plasmastar> But yeah, I've seen the crap on the original site.
[02:24] <Stainedhat> propaganda mostly but if you look at the source code it's sketchy at best
[02:24] <Stainedhat> moving on...
[02:27] <confusedmarsupia> Hi there, is there an alternative to samba which actually works out of the box when sharing with 7?
[02:28] <Xuisce> hi all
[02:28] <liuxu> hi
[02:28] <irssi-mike> confusedmarsupia: i've read that nfs is faster but less secure
[02:28] <tharkun> confusedmarsupia: nope unless you mess with Windows to accept ssh conections which is not particularly easy
[02:29] <confusedmarsupia> security is of zero concern,  my aunt just wants  it to work and she will not touch a config file or terminal
[02:29] <tharkun> irssi-mike: nfs and windows don't exactly mix nicely
[02:29] <irssi-mike> tharkun: good to know
[02:30] <confusedmarsupia> I want the equivalent of "turn off all security and share everything with everyone"
[02:30] <irssi-mike> confusedmarsupia: well seems like you could map a network drive, would be the easiest thing for her
[02:30] <tharkun> confusedmarsupia: the last time i messed with mandriva they had a nice kde interface to configure samba. Actually gnome also has one I'm just not familiar with it
[02:32] <confusedmarsupia> It seems strange that sharing is not a default part of ubuntu, is there a reason for that?
[02:32] <\x00> NetFlix Desktop Icon is not OPENING.
[02:34] <confusedmarsupia> eh, screw it, I think I'll tell her to use thumb drives.
[02:35] <\x00> How about her index drivers
[02:35] <\x00> drives*
[02:35] <AmbiguousOutlier> does anyone know what this means? rmmod kvm
[02:35] <AmbiguousOutlier> Error: Module kvm is in use by: kvm_intel
[02:35] <AmbiguousOutlier> ~$ rmmod kvm
[02:35] <AmbiguousOutlier> Error: Module kvm is in use by: kvm_intel
[02:36] <irssi-mike> confusedmarsupia: if you're sharing a folder in windows then linux file manager or nautilus (not sure which one is default) will display it under networks
[02:36] <daftykins> AmbiguousOutlier: it means the module is active. what are you REALLY trying to do?
[02:37] <confusedmarsupia> it doesn't irssi-mike, the windows computer shows up but it wont open
[02:37] <confusedmarsupia> similarly, the windows pc sees ubuntu but wont open the shared folders
[02:38] <irssi-mike> confusedmarsupia: if you want to share linux files with windows then of course samba, once you map the drive windows will retian the login information.
[02:38] <AmbiguousOutlier> daftykins: following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation, but my virt-manager on the guest is throwing up an error stating it can't find the iso
[02:38] <irssi-mike> confusedmarsupia: meaning your linux will be drive L:\ in win 7, for example
[02:39] <daftykins> AmbiguousOutlier: so you put it in the path it expects?
[02:39] <AmbiguousOutlier> daftykins: Checking installer location failed: Could not find media '/home/rhys/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso'.
[02:40] <AmbiguousOutlier> rhys@banana:~$ ls
[02:40] <AmbiguousOutlier> ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:40] <daftykins> AmbiguousOutlier: are you committed to KVM? virtualbox no good?
[02:40] <AmbiguousOutlier> KVM was supposed to be the official supported VM?!
[02:41] <daftykins> AmbiguousOutlier: regardless of whether it is i don't have any experience with it, so i'm just asking
[02:42] <hesiodo> hola
[02:42] <AmbiguousOutlier> daftykins: cool, i'll google virtualbox, know any good how to's?
[02:42] <daftykins> AmbiguousOutlier: nothing off hand i'm afraid. just be sure to use the non-open one if you want things like USB support
[02:46] <confusedmarsupia> yeah, no the ubuntu machine still can't see any of the win shares and trying to map a drive just says windows can't access the ubuntu machine
[02:47] <\x00> g
[02:47] <\x00> l
[02:47] <confusedmarsupia> this is a pretty crappy user experience and I am getting raged at here.  I searched in the software centre, but i am not seeing any samba gui options
[02:48] <confusedmarsupia> or more acurately, it says samba has a gui, but there is no reference to it anywhere and running "samba" just starts the service.
[02:49] <herpderphurr> I'm thinking about converting one of my partitions to a btrfs partition. Would anyone recommend (or recommend against) doing this?
[02:50] <SchrodingersScat> !info gadmin-samba | confusedmarsupia
[02:50] <felix__> hola
[02:52] <SchrodingersScat> confusedmarsupia: I found that with 'apt-cache search samba'
[02:52] <irssi-mike> confusedmarsupia: add her username to group sambashare and edit one config file, should be all that need to do with samba. ubuntu should see the share whether you have network discovery on or not so that's a mystery ( i would try rebooting ubuntu)
[02:54] <confusedmarsupia> we've decided to just use google drive, its much easier than all this palaver. Thanks anyway.  In future i don't think I'll be recommending ubuntu for my family
[02:54] <irssi-mike> confusedmarsupia: dropbox is actually a great thing too
[02:55] <confusedmarsupia> indeed, anything that just works is better than things which don't
[02:55] <SchrodingersScat> ssh/rsync is better anyway
[02:56] <fishcooker> i have server that doesn't install xorg.. i want to disable input devices; mouse and keyboard.. what should i do?
[02:57] <\x00> ?
[02:57] <AmbiguousOutlier> what package needs to be installed virtualbox guest
[02:58] <Xuisce> hey all
[02:58] <AaronB> My Ubuntu gives me a letterbox every time I try to change the resolution to 1600x900, anyone have any suggestions?
[03:01] <antrueya> why isn't ubuntu one working???
[03:02] <antrueya> I GET AUTH_FAILED ALL THE TIME
[03:02] <irssi-mike> fishcooker: what have you tried to get to "doesn't install xorg" and i'm not sure about the disabling inputs, i supose you could modprobe -r or something
[03:05] <irssi-mike> AaronB: i use scaling with the comman xrandr, man xrandr is all i can think of
[03:06] <antrueya> really.. why the #¤%&#¤/ cant ubuntu one file storage just use the same password as the web page
[03:06] <antrueya> now it isnt even working.. fuck ubuntu
[03:07] <AmbiguousOutlier> antrueya: chill out and try again tomorrow, it'll all be fine in the morning
[03:07] <AmbiguousOutlier> :)
[03:08] <antrueya> why does it say AUTH_FAILED when I use correct password
[03:11] <irssi-mike> antrueya: try using caps, maybe you had cap lock on when you set it up
[03:12] <Kekai> Hello
[03:13] <irssi-mike> Kekai: you got a question?
[03:14] <Kekai> I run A lenovo Ideapad model s10 Netbook. I have 200GB of Hard dis space and 512mb of Ram. I want to upgrade to 13.10. I currently use 12.04 LTS. Is it a good Idea to upgrade to a non LTS version to prepare for 14.04 LTS?
[03:14] <Kekai> Will my Hardware support anything higher than 12.04 LTS?
[03:15] <Beldar> Kekai, wait till 14.04 is released and upgrade to it, both are lts
[03:16] <Kekai> I heard of new features in anything past 12.04 LTS and I didnt know if I should upgrade.
[03:16] <rww> Kekai: there are two supported versions to upgrade to directly from 12.04: 12.10, and 14.04 (when it's released). If you upgrade to 12.10, you will then have to go 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04, which will suck
[03:17] <rww> Kekai: download a 13.10 live CD and boot from the CD (without installing) to try it out?
[03:17] <aaron_> Does anyone have any idea how I can get rid of the letterboxes on my screen when I am in 1600 x 900 reso?
[03:17] <Kekai> so I cant download the ISO and do a Hard drive?
[03:17] <Kekai> *Hard drive wipe?
[03:17] <rww> Kekai: that would work too, yes
[03:17] <Kekai> okay I am backing up my data.
[03:18] <irssi-mike> your netbook isn't a server so i would toss the latest stable software on it and if your hardware isn't brand spanking new you shouldn't have any problem with either
[03:18] <Kekai> well its old
[03:18] <Kekai> from 2009
[03:18] <Kekai> my first PC to have ubuntu
[03:18] <Kekai> previous had Windows Vista on it
[03:18] <wheatthin> :) my computer is from 2008.. runs great on ubuntu
[03:19] <Kekai> which version?
[03:19] <wheatthin> 13.10
[03:19] <Kekai> oh good
[03:19] <bblinder> lubuntu for those older ones, works brilliantly.
[03:19] <wheatthin> but then again... it's a server 0.o
[03:19] <Kekai> oh no
[03:19] <XUisce1> hi all
[03:19] <wheatthin> xubuntu would be my next install if my graphics card wasn't capable
[03:20] <irssi-mike> Kekai: vista was complete disaster
[03:20] <Kekai> irssi-mike: I agree
[03:20] <Kekai> it RSOD on me
[03:20] <Kekai> not even 6 months after I bought it
[03:20] <XUisce1> hi Kekai
[03:20] <XUisce1> and irssi-mike
[03:20] <Kekai> I am losing faith in MS
[03:21] <wheatthin> <-- dual quad core xeons, so just cause it's old doesn't make it utterly useless :P
[03:21] <XUisce1> haha
[03:21] <bblinder> wheatthin: out of curiosity, why xubuntu over lubuntu?
[03:21] <Kekai> Vista was a disaster, 7 is okay unless you got a bug in it that makes it look pirated.
[03:21] <irssi-mike> Kekai: I liked 3.1, xp and then 7.. 8 made me crazy until 8.1 came out
[03:21] <wheatthin> bblinder, just cause you get more graphical functionality.. and it's rounder I guess, so more appealing
[03:21] <Kekai> 8 is a disaster
[03:21] <XUisce1> thats true i hate Vista as much as the next persoon
[03:21] <Kekai> my Xbox caught fire
[03:21] <Kekai> the 360 died of RROD a week after purchase
[03:22] <irssi-mike> Kekai: 8.1 lets me obviate that awful "blitz screen"
[03:22] <Kekai> so I am losing faith int he company
[03:22] <wheatthin> 8.1 just takes some getting used to, as long as you don't have the rt version lol.. but that's for another channel
[03:22] <Kekai> Now lets talk programs
[03:23] <Kekai> In 12.04 LTS I run Google chrome, Skype, Quassel/KVirc, Spotify, and Nightingale
[03:23] <Kekai> These are my main staples on All the ubuntus I had
[03:24] <Foxhoundz> How can I create a network folder from a PC running Windows 8.1
[03:24] <Kekai> Do any of these have compatability issues.
[03:24] <Foxhoundz> I've established a direct PC-to-PC connection using an ethernet and assigned them both static IPs
[03:24] <irssi-mike> Kekai: spotify, what for, win's got hostednetwork built in
[03:24] <Foxhoundz> both are pinging each other correctly
[03:25] <irssi-mike> Kekai: never mind i thought you meant conectify
[03:26] <Xuisce> test test
[03:27] <aliendude5300> how can i delete every file that my user has access to, excluding the home directory on a live system (not using root user)? I want to prepare for a reinstall and clear out any garbage.
[03:28] <Kekai> I meant for Ubuntu 13.10
[03:29] <Kekai> If there was any issues I should be aware of with the aforementioned programs
[03:29] <Kekai> I have 12.04.03 on a USB key
[03:29] <Foxhoundz> Someone must know!
[03:29] <Kekai> and now I have 13.10 on a USB key
[03:29] <Kekai> many USB keys
[03:33] <pietro10> Is there any other place (or another network?) where I can go to get help with my gtk+ apps on kde font problem if no one here knows?
[03:35] <eflynn> do you have any suggestions for setting up a pressed? i have vmware fusion and the ubuntu iso
[03:39] <Kekai> http://askubuntu.com/questions/421493/is-it-a-good-idea-to-upgade-from-12-04-lts-to-13-10
[03:40] <Kekai> I thought I would ask the AskuUbuntu community
[03:40] <Ademan_> anyone know where evince stores its bookmarks?
[03:40] <desti_T2> upgrade ram
[03:40] <eflynn> 512mb? ew
[03:40] <desti_T2> (even if you don't update)
[03:41] <Kekai> I tried
[03:41] <Kekai> I get black screens and it wont start up
[03:41] <Kekai> tried a 2GB
[03:41] <Kekai> but what worries me is that he tried to deteriate me from upgrading
[03:41] <Kekai> any reason why?
[03:43] <ggreer> how can I disable that drum sound on startup in 13.10?
[03:43] <ggreer> all the guides seem to be for older versions of ubuntu that don't use unity
[03:44] <apb1963> OerHeks: yes, nixnote from ppa.... sorry for late reply.. I got pulled away
[03:59] <Kekai> Maybe I might switch to persay a lighter *buntu
[04:00] <hewhomust_> xfces nice
[04:00] <Kekai> Xubuntu?
[04:00] <hewhomust_> yeah
[04:00] <Kekai> Ahh
[04:00] <Kekai> Voyger
[04:00] <Kekai> the other Linux I had was based of Xubuntu
[04:01] <hewhomust_> xfce i think you mean not xubuntu
[04:01] <Kekai> no
[04:02] <Kekai> it said at the startup and download screen "Based off Xubuntu 12.10"
[04:02] <hewhomust_> hmm whats it called?
[04:02] <Kekai> any problems I had they sent me to Xubuntu sites to fix them
[04:02] <hewhomust_> ozo?
[04:02] <hewhomust_> ozos
[04:02] <Kekai> Voyager Linux
[04:02] <hewhomust_> ok
[04:03] <Kekai> what about using Gnome?
[04:03] <Kekai> is that lighter?
[04:05] <hewhomust_> kekai how much ram do you have?
[04:05] <Kekai> 512mb
[04:05] <Kekai> This thing came out in 2009
[04:05] <jasef> That seems a little low even for 2009 o-o.
[04:05] <hewhomust_> i would recommend xfce
[04:06] <Kekai> its a netbook
[04:06] <jasef> Ahh, that explains it I guess.
[04:06] <Kekai> it came with windows XP on it
[04:06] <jasef> Eww
[04:07] <hewhomust_> openbox is my favourite light alternative
[04:07] <Kekai> orignally I was gonna upgrade to ubuntu 13.10
[04:07] <Kekai> i currently run 12.04 LTS
[04:07] <hewhomust_> Kekai:  if its fast enough just use it
[04:07] <Kekai> it used to be fast
[04:08] <Kekai> but lately its running slow
[04:08] <Kekai> so i was gonna do a wipe and start fresh with 13.10
[04:08] <hewhomust_> Kekai: mostly full?
[04:08] <Kekai> out of 200 I am using 10 GB
[04:09] <hewhomust_> wow so 190 free thats weird
[04:09] <Kekai> it started when I download the google hangout plugin
[04:09] <Kekai> but thats been gone for sometime now
[04:11] <redlance> Okay...using Wireshark, I determined that my computer was participating in the DDoS thru the NTP monlist exploit.  However, I see no evidence that my computer is running the NTP daemon...So now I'm more confused...
[04:12] <Kekai> So I looked up the requirements for 13.10
[04:13] <Kekai> Saucy Salamander (13.10 32-bit)
[04:13] <Kekai> 384 MB of RAM
[04:13] <Kekai> 700 MHz processor (about Intel Celeron or better)
[04:13] <Kekai> 5 GB of hard-drive space
[04:13] <Kekai> VGA capable of 1024x768 screen resolution
[04:13] <Kekai> Either a CD/DVD drive or a USB port for the installer media
[04:13] <Kekai> sory for the spam
[04:13] <hewhomust_> wow pastebin much
[04:13] <Kekai> I have 512mb of ram and 5GB HDD space
[04:15] <redlance> Why would my computer be responding to an NTP request when it is not running the NTP daemon?
[04:15] <nishee> when i try to install app using terminal ..an error occurs .could nt open lock file var/lib/dokg/lock
[04:15] <hewhomust_> nishee ps -ef | grep apt
[04:16] <Bashing-om> nishee: Have you more than one instance of the package manager(s) open at same time ? apt, software center or synaptic ?
[04:18] <nishee> i dont understand wat u said
[04:18] <nishee> i am new to this opearating sys
[04:19] <daftykins> nishee: check the software centre / update manager isn't open
[04:21] <nishee> yes it is open
[04:24] <jozefk> how do I activate nvidia driver and use it instead of nouveau?
[04:28] <b0x> with great pain
[04:28] <obsidian> Recently, my Mozilla applications stopped working, well, actually they stopped starting i.e., whenever I clicked on 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird' in my application launcher, nothing happened. I tried launching my applications from the command line to see what the heck was up and for whatever reason I get this error "Could not create gnome accelerators directory '~/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied." I found a temporary work-around at
[04:28] <obsidian> the command line with 'sudo' but do I really have to give Firefox and Thunderbird super user privileges whenever I want to use them?
[04:29] <somsip> sounds like at some point in the past you've run something as sudo when it wasn't needed, and that has incorrectly changed permissions on some directories, so now you need to use sudo again just to make them work
[04:30] <obsidian> somsip, interesting. Thanks, so ..do you know (off the top of your head) if there's any quick fix?
[04:30] <Kekai> Does 13.10 come with Wifi drivers?
[04:31] <somsip> obsidian: run it in terminal, and look for which directories are 'permission denied'. IF these are in home, you should be safe to chwon obsidian:obsidian -R {directory}, or whatever your user name is
[04:31] <rww> or just do that with directory set to /home/obsidian/
[04:32] <somsip> rww: make sense
[04:32] <somsip> *makes
[04:32] <obsidian> Awesome! Ok, ..thank you. I'm gonna give it shot ..
[04:33] <Bashing-om> nishee: You get it figured out ? All good now ?
[04:35] <daftykins> nishee: you can't install via terminal when either are open
[04:38] <Tom1> how to install puppy linux with ubuntu using grub?
[04:38] <aidalgol> Is configuring grub2 any different, from the user's perspective, when using EFI?
[04:40] <BlueProtoman> How come certain packages are kept back when I try to run sudo apt-get upgrade?  And how can I update said kept-back packages?
[04:40] <rww> BlueProtoman: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:41] <TLF> hello
[04:41] <James0r2> trying to revert to xfce 4.10 from 4.11. removed the xubuntu ppas after using ppa-purge but i'm still on 4.11
[04:41] <Beldar> aidalgol, to broad a question really, can you define the configuring you mean?
[04:41] <BlueProtoman> rww: What's the difference between that and regular upgrade?
[04:41] <aidalgol> Beldar: Is the process still 1) update-grub 2) install-grub ?
[04:41] <TLF> it's there an explanation for apt-cache to work like charm as a regular user, and to take more than 10 minutes for a single search as a root user?
[04:41] <obsidian> somsip, here's the verdict: I changed the permission of the folder in question with chmod and now my Mozilla apps are working just fine from the app launcher! THANKS A TON!!
[04:41] <James0r2> here is my apt-cache policy for xfwm4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6941286/
[04:42] <aidalgol> *after installing a secondary OS
[04:42] <Beldar> aidalgol, Grub has a boot partition in a efi is all update is the same
[04:42] <Tom1>  aidalgol: i mean i have installed ubuntu and puppy linux on same hdd, but when grub appears i can only see the ubuntu os, it doesn;t shows me the puppy linux os .
[04:42] <TLF> +
[04:42] <aidalgol> Beldar: Great, thanks!
[04:43] <Tom1> Beldar:i have installed ubuntu and puppy linux on same hdd, but when grub appears i can only see the ubuntu os, it doesn;t shows me the puppy linux os .
[04:43] <aidalgol> Tom1: Sounds like you just need to run update-grub, then install-grub (with the appropriate arguments, so read the man pages first).
[04:43] <James0r2> anyone help me out?
[04:44] <irssi-mike> aidalgol: 90 percent positive it's grub-install and not install-grub
[04:45] <aidalgol> irssi-mike: Oh, right.  It *used* to be the other way 'round.
[04:46] <aaron_> Anyone able to help me with some screen resolution issues?
[04:48] <somsip> obsidian: cool
[04:49] <Diplomatico> Hello I need help with non detected pen drive...
[04:50] <James0r2> trying to revert to xfce 4.10 from 4.11. removed the xubuntu ppas after using ppa-purge but i'm still on 4.11
[04:50] <Ben64> Diplomatico: unplug it, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in, wait 10 seconds, then pastebin the output of "dmesg"
[04:50] <Diplomatico> Ok.
[04:56] <Diplomatico> Ben64, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6941337/
[05:00] <Ben64> Diplomatico: not seeing anything being plugged in. are you sure the drive works? does the usb port work for other devices?
[05:00] <Diplomatico> The usb port does work.
[05:00] <Diplomatico> This pen drive is not working since I formatted it.
[05:01] <Diplomatico> It's not recognized by any OS.
[05:01] <Diplomatico> I even opened it, and tested the continuity with a multitester...
[05:01] <Diplomatico> And it read ok.
[05:02] <Ben64> uh... you shouldn't be attaching a multimeter to a flash drive. if its not working on any computer, it's likely busted
[05:02] <Flat4ForLife> this ^^
[05:03] <Flat4ForLife> your pen drive worked before you formatted it?
[05:03] <Diplomatico> Oh...
[05:03] <Diplomatico> It worked.
[05:04] <Diplomatico> Yes, it was recognized.
[05:04] <Flat4ForLife> what did you format it to? and what did you use?
[05:04] <Diplomatico> So far I formatted it with gparted I think, in Puppy.
[05:04] <Diplomatico> And then, boom, not recognized.
[05:04] <Flat4ForLife> so even gparted doesnt recognize it?
[05:05] <Diplomatico> Not Gparted, nothing...
[05:05] <Flat4ForLife> have you tried it in another computer? not just another OS?
[05:06] <Diplomatico> Yes I tried different computers.
[05:07] <Flat4ForLife> as Ben64 said, if no computer recognizes it, then it probably died
[05:08] <Diplomatico> It's so unlikely to be dead, because it's just after formatting, it's suspicious.
[05:08] <Diplomatico> I think I formatted it to ext3.
[05:08] <Diplomatico> Can't remember for sure.
[05:09] <Flat4ForLife> well, gparted would recognize that. however, it could have been that something was not recognizing it after you formatted it and just needed to be done another way, but when you put the multimeter on it then it fried it
[05:09] <Flat4ForLife> "could" have, not saying it did
[05:09] <Diplomatico> The multimeter was one of the last actions.It didn't work way before testing it.
[05:10] <Flat4ForLife> any indicator light or anything on the pen drive?
[05:10] <Ben64> even if the format failed hard, it'd still show up in dmesg
[05:11] <Ben64> its not sending any information at all
[05:11] <Diplomatico> no ligths...
[05:12] <Diplomatico> Ok, so no hope.
[05:12] <Diplomatico> Not even a clue to what to do with the hardware??
[05:12] <Flat4ForLife> its a flash drive, just toss it and get a new one
[05:13] <Diplomatico> That would be the easy/capitalist way.
[05:13] <Diplomatico> Haha.
[05:14] <DrManhattan> no no no
[05:14] <DrManhattan> Diplomatico, do you have a windows VM?
[05:14] <DrManhattan> let me see if bootice has a linux version
[05:15] <Diplomatico> No, DrManhattan.
[05:15] <Diplomatico> What is that>?
[05:15] <Diplomatico> Is it the virtual thing for windows?
[05:15] <DrManhattan> Diplomatico, a program called bootice is what I use to restore flash drives to their original state when i format them strangely
[05:16] <Diplomatico> Ok, let me try it!
[05:16] <Diplomatico> Do I google it?
[05:16] <DrManhattan> it is a program for windows, so you'd need a windows VM or a windows box
[05:16] <DrManhattan> Hold on I'll get you the directions too
[05:16] <Diplomatico> Ok, ty...
[05:17] <DrManhattan> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/restoring-your-usb-key-partition/   and go down to where it says "Or alternately, Windows users could use BOOTICE"
[05:18] <Diplomatico> I'm starting a Windows pc...I'll download it there...
[05:19] <Flat4ForLife> would ubuntu run very well on a older laptop? pentium 4, 650ish mb ram, 128mb video card?
[05:19] <ianorlin> I don't think with unity
[05:19] <ianorlin> it could run lubuntu
[05:20] <Flat4ForLife> ok ill look at it. any other suggestions for a linux laptop?
[05:22] <Ansem> Hey, I'm having weird permissions issues on a CIFS share I'm mounting from a NAS
[05:23] <Ansem> Specifically, I can't alter permissions on all sorts of files, and I don't even seem to own directories I create
[05:23] <Diplomatico> Flat4ForLife, I downloaded bootice...
[05:23] <Diplomatico> Now>>
[05:23] <Flat4ForLife> I think you were meaning DrManhattan
[05:23] <Diplomatico> Oh...
[05:23] <Diplomatico> Yeah.
[05:23] <DrManhattan> :) all good
[05:23] <Diplomatico> DrManhattan
[05:23] <Diplomatico> Sorry
[05:24] <Flat4ForLife> No biggie
[05:24] <Diplomatico> I got bootice.
[05:24] <Diplomatico> Now?What to do?
[05:24] <Diplomatico> Call Batman...
[05:24] <Diplomatico> Hahaa
[05:24] <DrManhattan> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/restoring-your-usb-key-partition/   and go down to where it says "Or alternately, Windows users could use BOOTICE"
[05:24] <DrManhattan> then follow those directions
[05:24] <Diplomatico> Ok...
[05:25] <DrManhattan> and I want to openly apologize to the channel for doing windows stuff here but it is a very special case and this is a solution I know works, at least for me
[05:25] <Diplomatico> Bad luck,
[05:25] <Diplomatico> It doesn't show in the destination disk...
[05:25] <Diplomatico> Not recognized.
[05:26] <DrManhattan> Hmm what does disk management show
[05:26] <Diplomatico> Where is disk management??
[05:26] <Diplomatico> You mean device manager?
[05:26] <Flat4ForLife> control panel > admin tools > device manager
[05:26] <Diplomatico> Ok...
[05:27] <DrManhattan> NO
[05:27] <DrManhattan> not device manager
[05:27] <DrManhattan> DISK management
[05:27] <Flat4ForLife> isnt disk management in device manager?
[05:27] <DrManhattan> right click my computer, select Manage, go down to disk management
[05:27] <cuddylier> Why is this cronjob going every minute instead of hour?
[05:27] <cuddylier> * */5 * * * screen -S creative -s bash -p 0 -X stuff "`printf "\015plotme resetexpired plotworld\r"`"
[05:27] <cuddylier> I mean every 5 minutes
[05:28] <DrManhattan> its under computer management
[05:28] <ianorlin> cuddylier: do you have an * in minutes
[05:28] <Diplomatico> Got it.It shows only the HDD.
[05:28] <DrManhattan> Diplomatico, the drive is hosed
[05:28] <Diplomatico> So, yeah...
[05:28] <cuddylier> ianorlin Yes
[05:28] <Diplomatico> Hosed???
[05:29] <ianorlin> that does it every minute
[05:29] <Flat4ForLife> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand back to square one
[05:29] <Diplomatico> What's that?? Dead?
[05:29] <cuddylier> What do I put instead if I want it to be just every 5 hours?
[05:29] <DrManhattan> Diplomatico, ruined
[05:29] <Diplomatico> Alrighty then!!!
[05:29] <DrManhattan> sorry
[05:29] <Diplomatico> Thank you so much even for a lost cause!!!
[05:29] <Diplomatico> Haha
[05:29] <Diplomatico> Thank you again!
[05:29] <Diplomatico> I shall use it as a key holder!!
[05:29] <ianorlin> put sometihng different in minutes as that does it every minute as * means any time in that range
[05:32] <mogey> Need help setting up xfx Radeon HD 6670 GPU for Ubuntu please. No idea what to do
[05:33] <Flat4ForLife> what version of ubuntu?
[05:34] <jozefk> how can I get nvidia drivers working?
[05:34] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, what version of ubuntu? what card do you have? what have you tried?
[05:34] <mogey> ubuntu 13.10
[05:35] <Flat4ForLife> mogey, have you used the "Software and Updates" option in system settings?
[05:36] <jozefk> Flat4ForLife, 12.04.4 64bit. nvidia optimus, which is supported now natively by latest nvidia drivers I read on the internet. so far what I tried is this: first it was working with nouveau drivers but the external monitor on HDMI didn't work good. graphics were delaying and so on. so I tried bumblebee, that one messed up the whole thing. now I want to just install nvidia drivers and use those and see if it will work
[05:38] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, same with mogey, did you try the "Software and Updates" option in system settings to install the proprietary drivers that way?
[05:38] <Flat4ForLife> im unsure if thats in 12.04 though
[05:38] <Flat4ForLife> just asking
[05:39] <mogey> ive done the software and updates, but when i click details it doesnt show my gpu under graphics
[05:40] <Flat4ForLife> under "Additional Drivers" it doesnt list your card?
[05:40] <jozefk> Flat4ForLife, I installed the drivers from Additional software but they are not in use
[05:41] <mogey> ya and underneath it says this device is using and alternative driver
[05:42] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, what happened exactly after you installed the nvidia drivers through there?
[05:44] <Flat4ForLife> mogey, have you followed a guide such as this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[05:45] <Guest4194> what is *nix
[05:45] <Guest4194> & posix environment?
[05:45] <Flat4ForLife> based on unix
[05:45] <jozefk> Flat4ForLife, it happens nothing. intel is working only
[05:46] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, did you run the xconfig during/after install?
[05:46] <jozefk> sudo modprobe nvidia
[05:46] <jozefk> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[05:46] <jozefk> xconfig? no
[05:47] <jozefk> I actually tried to run X -configure
[05:47] <jozefk> still don't see anything happened
[05:47] <Flat4ForLife> after you install the nvidia drivers, you need to run nvidia-xconfig to redo your xconf file, and blacklist the stock drivers
[05:47] <jozefk> stock driver? nouveu?
[05:47] <Flat4ForLife> yes
[05:47] <jozefk> I blacklisted that already
[05:48] <Flat4ForLife> ok, did you create aliases in your blacklist file for nvidia drivers?
[05:48] <Flat4ForLife> reconfigure your xconf file?
[05:48] <Flat4ForLife> xorg.conf*
[05:49] <[[LEONN]]> hello
[05:49] <Flat4ForLife> have you followed a guide such as this jozefk https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:49] <Flat4ForLife> hi [[LEONN]]
[05:50] <jozefk> I haven't created aliases
[05:50] <jozefk> yet
[05:50] <jozefk> let me try now fist the nvidia-xconfig
[05:50] <jozefk> nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[05:51] <[[LEONN]]> I made some
[05:51] <jozefk> I don't have xorg.conf file
[05:51] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, are you back on nouveau? did you remove the nvidia drivers?
[05:51] <[[LEONN]]> with bans y everthing
[05:52] <jozefk> no I am not back on nouveau and I haven't removed nvidia drivers.
[05:52] <ItsMeLenny> i have a program that wants to access /dev/tts/USB0 which doesnt exist, is there a way to temporary link usb to that location
[05:53] <grendal_prime> has anyone got netflix-desktop to work?
[05:54] <mogey> still trying to get the latest drivers for xfx Radeon HD 6670 on Ubuntu 13.10 saucy. any idea whta i need to do?
[05:55] <jozefk> this looks like many people have problems with graphic cards in linux. what a hell
[05:56] <jozefk> will buy computers with intel graphics only in the future
[05:56] <Flat4ForLife> mogey, did you see my post from a little bit ago?
[05:56] <Ben64> jozefk: the problem is optimus for you, my nvidia cards work fine
[05:56] <q0> Is modern compiler implementation a good book to get into comp design and things like superscalar and the alternatives ?
[05:57] <jozefk> what is the problem with AMD then?
[05:57] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, some people do some people dont...cant throw it all out just because some have issues
[05:57] <Flat4ForLife> i have a nvidia card that no one can get to work either. but im still dinking around with it
[05:57] <Ben64> jozefk: amd has never been great on linux
[06:00] <jozefk> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[06:01] <Flat4ForLife> ItsMeLenny, have you looked at symbolic links?
[06:01] <Flat4ForLife> oh nvm, h quit
[06:01] <Ben64> Flat4ForLife: what nvidia card can you not get working?
[06:01] <Flat4ForLife> GeForce 8600M GT on my macbook
[06:02] <jozefk> I need HDMI to work or my main OS can't be Linux
[06:02] <Ben64> Flat4ForLife: should work with latest driver
[06:02] <Flat4ForLife> Ben64, it doesnt. i have tried 3 different versions
[06:03] <Ben64> you may be doing something wrong, nvidia is pretty painless to get going
[06:04] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, if you are not on nouveau and have not uninstalled nvidia drivers, what are you currently using to boot?
[06:04] <jozefk> Flat4ForLife, intel
[06:04] <Flat4ForLife> Ben64, i very well could be, yes. i have tried many different resolutions online and had some help in here. couldnt get it working
[06:05] <Ben64> Flat4ForLife: are you sure its a video card problem and not a screen problem
[06:06] <Flat4ForLife> Ben64, how would it be a screen problem?
[06:07] <Ben64> Flat4ForLife: not giving correct edid so it can't tell what res to run at
[06:07] <Flat4ForLife> i tried setting the res manually, still wouldnt work
[06:11] <Flat4ForLife> jozefk, did you install the latest linux headers before installing bumblebee/bbswitch?
[06:16] <Flat4ForLife> Ben64, it could be a screen config problem, but i still haven't been able to get it to work
[06:19] <bioman> Morning
[06:20] <Flat4ForLife> hi
[06:20] <bioman> Please have a look at this shot : http://postimg.org/image/76ckwuisn/
[06:21] <bioman> I've tried Ubnuntu 12.04-4 lts, but dont' like like. Back to my distro, some foler icons in Xfce are the ubuntu ones, not my theme.
[06:21] <bioman> Can anyone help me please ?
[06:26] <Ben64> bioman: i'm not sure what you're asking
[06:28] <bioman> Ben64: look at the shot : the "Musique", "Images", "Téléchargemnts" icons are not the right ones
[06:28] <jozefk> Flat4ForLife, I installed the headers together with bumblebee
[06:28] <jozefk> and bumblebee worked but not on HDMI
[06:28] <jozefk> I was not able to get HDMI working
[06:29] <Ben64> bioman: what distro are you running?
[06:30] <bioman> Ben64: I think I've found how to get my icons back : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xdg_user_directories I use Arch
[06:31] <Ben64> then why are you in ubuntu support?
[06:31] <Flat4ForLife> !arch | bioman
[06:31] <Flat4ForLife> yarg
[06:31] <bioman> Ben64: because that's ubuntu related
[06:32] <Ben64> bioman: i don't see how it's ubuntu related when you're in arch
[06:40] <arceye> is it possible to write a little batch file kind of thing to open a terminal with a specific command ? I know a batch file is a windows thing but it was the best way I could describe what I want to do
[06:42] <iceroot> arceye: gnome-terminal -e your-command
[06:42] <Ben64> arceye: yes, but it's usually a bash script, not batch in linux
[06:44] <arceye> iceroot, Ben64 thanks
[06:47] <ainx> hello need help here
[06:48] <ainx> i got some trouble with installation flashplayer and i need to abort and stop the installation because i was install it manually
[06:49] <ainx> anyone here?
[06:50] <irssi-mike> ainx grab the gz from adobe then cp the .so to /usr/share/mozilla/plugins
[06:51] <ainx> no, i mean
[06:51] <ainx> i mean i need to abort ll the proccess installation flash
[06:51] <ainx> *all
[06:51] <irssi-mike> or is it /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[06:52] <irssi-mike> ainx: you mean you want to stop apt-get
[06:52] <ainx> yes
[06:53] <irssi-mike> ainx: not sure i've ever had to do that but if you abort with ctrl+c i think it would leave apt-get hanging
[06:53] <irssi-mike> so dont do that
[06:53] <ainx> stop forever and never to do this "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem"
[06:54] <helmut_> hi
[06:54] <ainx> because it's can be
[06:54] <ainx> can't*
[06:57] <Gregted> Anyone online know how to edit text in Scribus?
[06:59] <BlitzHere> Hi all
[07:00] <BlitzHere> Quck question
[07:00] <ianorlin> !ask
[07:00] <mogey> atest version of amd drivers acceptable for ubuntu 13.10?
[07:00] <BlitzHere> Can I install an EFI enabled sustem through the mini ISO?
[07:01] <BlitzHere> My system boots in legacy mode jsut fine
[07:01] <BlitzHere> But jsut want to know
[07:01] <mogey> does anyone know the latest version of amd drivers that are acceptable on ubuntu 13.10
[07:01] <BlitzHere> I suppose I could create a ~100MB and mount it at /boot/efi during installation but would that even work?
[07:02] <psykid> ....
[07:02] <Ansem> Hey, weird issues
[07:02] <Ansem> I have a CIFs share from a NAS
[07:02] <Ansem> I can create files, but I'm still getting back permission errors
[07:03] <Ansem> as in, I do 'touch blah', get a permissions error, but then blah is there
[07:07] <BlitzHere> Sigh, I should read mote
[07:07] <BlitzHere> Does boot-repair work off live boot USBs?
[07:12] <Busybyeski> how can i make ls recursive?
[07:12] <Busybyeski> oh.. i'm an idiot
[07:24] <l0o0> I waa confused about the output when i used vgaswitcheroo to switch bwtweent IGD and DIS. The output is 0:DIS: :DynPwr:0000:01:00.0 1:IGD:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0 2:DIS-Audio: :Pwr:0000:01:00.1
[07:24] <l0o0> Both IGD and DIS are powered
[07:25] <thurstylark> I need some help mounting an smb share hosted by a ubuntu server and mounted by a second smb server. I keep getting cifs error 13 and I have no idea how to fix it.
[07:25] <thurstylark> sorry. second ubuntu server.
[07:26] <l0o0> I have Ubuntu14.04 on my laptop
[07:41] <MaximumTimbo> Hello, I have two users on the same machine and I want them to have access to the same folders. Some of the folder that I want to share are hidden, like wine. I want to avoid installing the same applications for two users. How?
[07:43] <ainx> help please ;(
[07:44] <jozefk> is there anybody with optimus nvidia and ubuntu 12.04.4?
[08:00] <Prest0> is ther any linux terminal that shows the promp line in bold, then all the results parsed? something like a chat...it will be much more easy to read
[08:01] <Prest0> than everything in same color and joined
[08:02] <Gnea> !uefi
[08:02] <whizkid> What do we hav here?/
[08:04] <whizkid> elementary os is awesome. :))
[08:04] <Gnea> whizkid: is that an app available in ubuntu?
[08:04] <whizkid> Nope! its an ubuntu based distro.
[08:06] <rww> (see #elementary for discussion and support)
[08:06] <Gnea> ah
[08:06] <Gnea> UEFI baffles me. I transferred my HDD to a new system and it doesn't seem to like booting into an X environment.
[08:06] <Gnea> and it won't say why, either.
[08:08] <Gnea> I guess ubuntu needs to know how to handle uefi... perhaps grub is what I need to look at
[08:12] <jjavaholic> where can I find an app for bulk xmp tag-value adding
[08:16] <jozefk> Does it makes sense to install lxde on Ubuntu 12.04 and use it instead of unity? Would it work and how long?
[08:21] <keplr> Why not use Lubuntu?
[08:22] <rww> because they already have Ubuntu installed, I expect
[08:22] <jozefk> Is lubuntu LTS?
[08:23] <rww> jozefk: Lubuntu 10.04 was unofficially, I think 12.04 isn't, and 14.04 will be.
[08:24] <jozefk> That's why I would like to install lxde on Ubuntu if possible and if it is supported
[08:29] <irssi-mike> jozefk: i'd compare your choice in GUI to which brand of tires to use will void my warranty
[08:31] <jozefk> Don't know if it will work and be supported or not
[08:32] <Wug> when it comes to "officially supported", most things are supported via trial and error
[08:32] <Wug> only a few simple sets of things are easily and uniquely reproducible, and have a subject matter expert here to help with
[08:33] <Wug> it might be that what you want is impossible, or it might be easy, but chances are only one or two of us here has ever done it, and they're probably afk.  you won't know until you try
[08:34] <Wug> if you run into issues along the way, post about them and those of us who have run into similar problems in the past will chime in as they notice
[08:34] <Wug> you can do too many things with ubuntu to document or support all of them.  sometimes you're on your own
[08:34] <jozefk> So you are saying most of you are just using unity?
[08:34] <Wug> I was irritated by unity at first but it has grown on me
[08:35] <Wug> and gotten better
[08:35] <jozefk> Then I have to get used to it too
[08:35] <Wug> well, you certainly don't have to
[08:36] <Wug> but experimenting with your graphical environment is a fairly in-depth undertaking
[08:36] <Wug> it will require lots of time, work, and experience to get anything done.
[08:36] <Wug> and also research
[08:37] <Wug> but if you have no shortage of those things, you can change it to be however you want
[08:37] <irssi-mike> jozefk: i like unity and gnome but on a machine with less resources lxde all the way
[08:41] <jozefk> Don't have time
[08:47] <dzhus> My Postgres won't start, does anyone have ideas why? http://dpaste.com/1624758/
[08:48] <hewhomust> sudo
[08:49] <rww> hewhomust: they're running as root in the first line
[08:49] <rww> so not that
[08:50] <hewhomust> yeah just noticed it after i said that
[08:50] <MaximumTimbo> I was messing users and groups trying to make sharing of folder between two users on the same computer a little more seamless. Both of my users are now "standard" and my root password no longer works. How can I fix this?
[08:51] <Anden> anyone good at xbindkeys syntax? i'd like to make my Mouse button 5 (supposedly called b:9) to become my left shift
[08:52] <Anden> i can kinda get it to work but not completely, i want it to simulate keydown when pressing b:9 and keyup when releasing b:9 but the following doesn't work:
[08:52] <hewhomust>  MaximumTimbo: what do you mean your root password doesnt work?
[08:52] <MaximumTimbo> hewhomust, just what I said....
[08:53] <Anden> "xte 'keydown Shift_L'"
[08:53] <Anden> b:9
[08:53] <Anden> "xte 'keyup Shift_L'"
[08:53] <Anden> b:9 + release
[08:54] <hewhomust> MaximumTimbo: tried using passwd?
[08:54] <Anden> all that happens is that nothing happens when i press down on the mouse button and when i release it it constantly holds down shift >_<
[08:56] <MaximumTimbo> hewhomust, passwd doesn't work
[08:56] <hewhomust> MaximumTimbo: tried booting into a live cd chrooting into the partition and changing the password?
[08:57] <MaximumTimbo> hewhomust, I've never done that before. Docs?
[08:58] <irssi-mike> i think all u gotta do is mount /dev/sdaX /mnt then chroot /mnt but i could be wrong
[08:58] <hewhomust> irssi-mike:  your right
[08:58] <hewhomust> thats it
[08:59] <hewhomust> then just run passwd user
[08:59] <irssi-mike> sudo fdisk -l to find X
[09:01] <hewhomust> MaximumTimbo: how did you add them to the groups too? you might have just removed them the other groups
[09:11] <humbag> MaximumTimbo: as each user, enter 'groups' in terminal, if you do not see the word sudo you must enter the filesystem from a live cd or usb
[09:11] <humbag> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot   and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2135146
[09:12] <hewhomust> humbag: he gone
[09:22] <jozefk> which release of Ubuntu most of the people here use? latest or LTS?
[09:23] <rww> jozefk: latest
[09:24] <hewhomust> lts cant be bothered upgrading every 6 months
[09:25] <cloudy_nz> I'm using 13.04 and grumpy now updates have been cut off
[09:26] <Ruda> hi
[09:26] <Actionparsnip> Hi ruda
[09:26] <hewhomust> hi Ruda
[09:28] <jozefk> I kind of like LTS too
[09:29] <Ruda> do U speak polish ?
[09:29] <Actionparsnip> !polish
[09:34] <LeFluff> g'mornin'!!
[09:35] <Actionparsnip> Hi lefluff
[09:35] <hewhomust> hi LeFluff
[09:37] <LeFluff> I have no idea what to talk about, I just miss Ubuntu.
[09:37] <hewhomust> lol what do you use?
[09:37] <LeFluff> mac.
[09:38] <LeFluff> Not quite Ubuntu
[09:38] <hewhomust> i hate macs
[09:38] <hewhomust> but thats just an economic position
[09:39] <LeFluff> The economic thing got me actually. Spent money on OS X apps..but I so want Ubuntu
[09:39] <Actionparsnip> Lefluff: there are mac channels here on freenode
[09:39] <Actionparsnip> Lefluff: ubuntu also runs on mac
[09:39] <LeFluff> I miss Ubuntu, not OS X
[09:39] <geirha> LeFluff: Install VirtualBox, then install Ubuntu in a VM
[09:40] <hewhomust> gods i hate os x even more than the price of macs
[09:40] <LeFluff> better than windows, but its no Ubuntu.
[09:41] <LeFluff> I just need to tighten the belt, wipe a cheap netbook...
[09:41] <Actionparsnip> Hewhomust: and "build quality" they always shout about. Funny things are macs
[09:43] <LeFluff> VM idea was good btw
[09:44] <LeFluff> just didnt want to put a 6yo mac through that. HDD is.......shaky.
[09:44] <LeFluff> I dont want to tear down a mini for the third time.
[09:45] <LeFluff> Thumb drives are fast on read, painful on write
[09:46] <hewhomust> the thing i hate the most about macs is the proprietary hardware crap
[09:47] <hewhomust> os x
[09:47] <LeFluff> Driver hell
[09:48] <LeFluff> Not like its helped them in sales either
[09:48] <hewhomust> i actually think the os looks pretty cool might run it in a virtual machine
[09:49] <hewhomust> further problems though
[09:50] <LeFluff> Not as cool as Ubuntu. I'm just tempted to go buy a dang external
[09:50] <LeFluff> my wallet hurt
[09:50] <LeFluff> ow
[09:51] <LeFluff> I really just need something that will run a minecraft server in runlevel 3
[09:51] <LeFluff> Maybe I'll just install server on the mac
[09:52] <wonderworld> hi how would i reinitialize an USB device on a remote machine? can't go there and plug it in and out. have ssh access.
[09:52] <LeFluff> what device
[09:53] <LeFluff> if u have ssh, reboot
[09:54] <LeFluff> ok  well later
[09:54] <wonderworld> cant reboot the machine. must run
[09:54] <LeFluff> servet eh?
[09:55] <LeFluff> does it show in lsusb?
[09:56] <LeFluff> love 2 all
[09:56] <wonderworld> yes sure
[09:57] <wonderworld> i need to reinitialize it with the kernel
[09:57] <pietro10> well I built a fonts.conf that caused fc-match to produce the same output as it did before; now I just have to make sure KDE programs stay the same... next time I reboot
[09:57] <pietro10> until then, thanks anyway
[10:19] <jotanpls> I need help setting up PHP, more precisely I have a couple of questions regarding the difference of folders between windows php and linux php. E.g. I can't reach index.php with apache2 running and everything, not even via /index.php
[10:22] <c2tarun> jotanpls, did you enable site from apache
[10:22] <jotanpls> c2tarun: elaborate, I get the ' Sight works ! ' message when I type in localhost
[10:22] <ikonia> jotanpls: that's not really "php"
[10:22] <ikonia> jotanpls: thats just index file extensions in apache
[10:23] <jotanpls> ikonia: glorious exposition comrade
[10:23] <ikonia> jotanpls: and that's exactly the same in windows as it is in apache
[10:23] <ikonia> jotanpls: what ?
[10:23] <c2tarun> jotanpls, can you please share the output of "ls /etc/apache2/sites-available"
[10:23] <jotanpls> sure thing c2tarun
[10:24]  * c2tarun just wondering if anyone still use jEdit. (I like it very much)
[10:24] <ikonia> jotanpls: are you using ubuntu or crunchband ?
[10:24] <ikonia> crunchbang ?
[10:24] <jotanpls> I'm using crunchbang
[10:24] <ikonia> jotanpls: ok, I see you asking in #crunchbang, please keep it in there, not this channel
[10:24] <ikonia> jotanpls: this channel only deals with ubuntu.
[10:25] <jotanpls> ikonia: Well it is built on both, and this channel has a way bigger supportcommunity
[10:25] <ikonia> jotanpls: it's different though, hence why we don't support crunchbang
[10:25] <ikonia> jotanpls: crunchbang has some good members, I see you asking in #crunchbang, so please keep it there
[10:26] <c2tarun> jotanpls, also it is not advisable to ask same questions at two different channels. You might waste someones time.
[10:26] <c2tarun> ask on anyone channel and be patient. Also try #PHP channel.
[10:26] <ikonia> c2tarun: it's not a php problem
[10:26] <ikonia> it's apache index page extensions
[10:30] <IOerror> Hi all.  I just installed 13.10 server x32 on my netbook with a pendrive and now all it does is blink _ instead of booting into the OS.  I've tried reinstalling a few times and get the same issue.  Halp?
[10:32] <sevenup> http://54.245.29.83:1337/public/index.html
[10:32] <sevenup>    rules:   http://jumbastic.com/magegorules.html
[10:33] <ikonia> sevenup: why are you pasting that here ?
[10:33] <hewhomust> lol wtf
[10:34] <ikonia> hewhomust: no-need for that comment or language
[10:34] <jonas_> hi
[10:35] <hewhomust> hi jonas_
[10:35] <IOerror> Oh wow.. when I boot into rescue mode and get to a shell, if I type "ls" I get "Floating point exception"
[10:37] <h2o> hi
[10:38] <jumpin> hi
[10:38] <hewhomust> hi jumpin
[10:39] <jumpin> wie gehts?
[10:39] <hewhomust> not bad
[10:40] <IOerror> is there a reason LVM would not work?
[10:40] <IOerror> I think that's what my problem is
[10:40] <Micki> Ich habe ein Problem mit meinem Web+TV Stick von Pro7. Wenn ich den in den USB Port stecke stürzt der Rechner ab. Der Screen geht  weg und ich kann nix mehr machen.
[10:42] <aeon-ltd> !de
[10:42] <aeon-ltd> Micki: gehe zu #ubuntu-de
[10:42] <Micki> Sry, wusste ich nicht. Danke für die Info.
[10:42] <aeon-ltd> kein problem
[10:43] <OsBinAs> das is gut :)
[10:45] <IOerror> Ok, LVM wasn't the problem.  Is there a way to see why this machine won't boot into Ubuntu Server?  This blinking "_" isn't helpful.
[10:46] <ikonia> looking at the step before the failure would be a start
[10:46] <IOerror> POST
[10:47] <IOerror> Going to try manually creating partitions :/
[10:47] <ikonia> why ?
[10:47] <ikonia> what makes you think that is a problem
[10:47] <IOerror> Because that was the only way to get Ubuntu desktop to install/boot
[10:47] <ikonia> sounds a weak approach
[10:47] <IOerror> But desktop cripples my poor little netbook
[10:48] <IOerror> agreed, but I don't know how to see what the issue is
[10:48] <ikonia> narroing it down
[10:49] <ikonia> eg: does it hit grub, does the kernel start to boot, what point in the boot process does it hit, you see the partitions from live media,
[10:49] <IOerror> Ok, if I boot into a Live CD, I can see the partitions just fine, I try reinstalling GRUB and it still won't boot.  Install LILO and I get the same problem.
[10:50] <IOerror> I don't know if it even hits the bootloader, it just does to a blinking _
[10:50] <ikonia> re-installing grub, installing lilo - it's just random
[10:50] <ikonia> ok - I can't help you as you are just doing random things
[10:50] <ikonia> proceed as you feel best, good luck
[10:54] <Prest0> what does happend when you break the bandwith limit of your vpn? you can't connect to it ?
[10:54] <ikonia> depends on how you set up the vpn
[10:54] <ikonia> it's your vpn, you set the policy
[10:55] <Prest0> i dont get it
[10:55] <ikonia> what don't you get ?
[10:55] <Prest0> isnt the bandwith limit the limit of gb the vpn can move in/out
[10:55] <Prest0> not?
[10:56] <Prest0> its says 500 gb bandwith in the shop, so i can move 500 gb of data each month
[10:56] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[10:56] <ikonia> right yes, how is that anything to do with your vpn - thats a limit from your ISP
[10:57] <Prest0> 500 gb of bandwidth = the data you can move, or the speed limit you can move your data
[10:57] <Prest0> ¿?
[10:58] <hewhomust> data
[10:58] <Guest4538> I have a question : there is a message on my desktop: sofware index is broken: how can I fix it?
[10:58] <Guest4538> I have a question : there is a message on my desktop: sofware index is broken: how can I fix it? I'm on ubuntu 12.10
[10:58] <Prest0> the data you can move, okey so lets say i connect to my vpn 24h/day using remote desktop, and in 2 days i already trasnfered 500 gb of data
[10:58] <Prest0> what happends the rest of 28 days
[10:58] <Prest0> i cannot connect to it ?
[10:59] <ikonia> ask your ISP
[10:59] <Prest0> my isp? or the isp of the vpn provider?
[10:59] <Rubas> Prest0: if it is a good ISP, they will limit your connection (with a lower coonection)
[10:59] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with VPN - that is a network limit from your ISP
[10:59] <ikonia> Prest0: whoever set the 500GB limit
[10:59] <Rubas> Prest0: where do you see 500gb limit?
[10:59] <Prest0> my isp? or the isp of the vpn proider?
[10:59] <Prest0> here:
[11:00] <ikonia> this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:00] <ikonia> talk to your ISP/VPN provider
[11:00] <Prest0> https://www.budgetvm.com/
[11:00] <ikonia> talk to them then
[11:00] <ikonia> this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:00] <Prest0> https://www.budgetvm.com/linux-vps.php
[11:00] <ikonia> yeah, we saw the first time
[11:00] <Prest0> 500 gb Bandwidth says
[11:00] <ikonia> talk to them
[11:01] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with this channel
[11:01] <Prest0> yes but as anyone was talking and linux people usually know a bit more than others...
[11:01] <Prest0> i was asking
[11:01] <Guest4538> ikonia, please can you afford this: sofware index is broken on my ubuntu 12.10, how can I fix it?
[11:01] <ikonia> Prest0: talk to the provider
[11:01] <ikonia> Prest0: they will tell you for certain
[11:02] <ikonia> Guest4538: delete the index ? let it re-load it ?
[11:02] <ikonia> Guest4538: depends what you've done to break it
[11:02] <Prest0> my ISP provider? or the one of the VPN?
[11:02] <ikonia> the person who imposed the limit
[11:02] <Prest0> must be the shop where they sell the vpns then
[11:03] <ikonia> right, then talk to them
[11:03] <Prest0> ok
[11:03] <Prest0> is Cpanel needed for anything?
[11:05] <Rubas> what are you using the vps for?
[11:05] <hewhomust> Prest0: cpanel isnt even supported on ubuntu
[11:06] <Guest4538> ikonia, I know nothing about this, I'm about to install R packages and then it shows something: I've no right to write on my library system file, and overthere it appears this message: sofware index is broken
[11:12] <Prest0> i was talking about VPS not VPN
[11:12] <Prest0> shit
[11:12] <humbag> Guest4538: you need to update and remove obsolete repositories and upgrade before installing new things
[11:14] <yellabs-r2> hello all..
[11:15] <yellabs-r2> i see iso builds of ubuntu that say's its build for 64-bit Mac ( AMD64) , what does that mean ?
[11:15] <yellabs-r2> they run on mac hardware ?
[11:18] <aeon-ltd> yellabs-r2: yes, the amd name is not a processor specification here
[11:19] <yellabs-r2> i see
[11:21] <yellabs-r2> thanks for the info , downloading daily build right now ..
[11:23] <yellabs-r2> have a nice day ,,
[11:23] <aeon-ltd> you too
[11:26] <ShadowStrider> hello can somebody help me with dual boot problem?
[11:29] <ShadowStrider> So I have two SSD. The other has windows 7 and the other xubuntu. When I try to boot from xubuntu, I can't see windows 7 on the list
[11:29] <ShadowStrider> this is in the grub list
[11:30] <John_John_> is this the chat for the other flavors of ubuntu like kubuntu for example ?
[11:30] <humbag> ShadowStrider: first things first, have you run sudo update-grub
[11:30] <humbag> John_John_: you can msg the bot alis to find other channels
[11:31] <John_John_> humbag: whats the command for that please ?
[11:32] <humbag>  /msg alis list *ubuntu* -min 20
[11:32] <John_John_> thanks
[11:32] <ShadowStrider> http://pastebin.com/0AqumCpb
[11:32] <ShadowStrider> ok there's the output
[11:33] <ShadowStrider> So if I reboot, I should see windows 7 on the list?
[11:34] <humbag> ShadowStrider: looks like it :)
[11:34] <ShadowStrider> Ok great! Be back soon
[11:37] <Galick> Hello
[11:38] <ShadowStrider> Just great, I was able to have windows 7 on the boot list and w7 fired up!
[11:42] <AmbiguousOutlier> I'm trying to configure KVM the next step on the wiki requires this file /sys/hypervisor/properties/capabilities which is missing? Do i need to install hypervisor
[11:43] <MasterOfDisaster> AmbiguousOutlier: check if all necessary kernel modules are loaded with lsmod.
[11:43] <Galick> #exit
[11:43] <Galick> #leave
[11:45] <AmbiguousOutlier> MasterOfDisaster: What am I looking for kvm_intel is there, can't see anything to do with hypervisor or xen
[11:46] <bekks> AmbiguousOutlier: kvm is the hypervisor.
[11:47] <AmbiguousOutlier> I'm having trouble with this step; By default, if you booted into XEN kernel it will not display svm or vmx flag using the grep command. To see if it is enabled or not from xen, enter:
[11:47] <AmbiguousOutlier> cat /sys/hypervisor/properties/capabilities
[11:47] <AmbiguousOutlier> You must see hvm flags in the output.
[11:51] <vmuser> anyone has experience with dual gpu's ?
[11:52] <bekks> !anyone | vmuser
[12:00] <AmbiguousOutlier> Is this an issue for setting up kvm on my server >> rhys@banana:~$ rmmod kvm
[12:00] <AmbiguousOutlier> Error: Module kvm is in use by: kvm_intel
[12:01] <bekks> AmbiguousOutlier: rmmod kvm_intel
[12:01] <AmbiguousOutlier> bekks: rhys@banana:~$ rmmod kvm_intel
[12:01] <AmbiguousOutlier> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:753 kmod_module_remove_module: could not remove 'kvm_intel': Operation not permitted
[12:01] <AmbiguousOutlier> Error: could not remove module kvm_intel: Operation not permitted
[12:01] <bekks> sudo ...
[12:02] <AmbiguousOutlier> bekks: thanks
[12:05] <vmuser> How to set up dual GPUs on Ubuntu 13.10
[12:05] <vmuser> the displays panel isn't working
[12:11] <AmbiguousOutlier> KVM is installed on my host/server, I then have virt-manager installed on client.  Where should my iso be stored, i can't seem to select them when I browse local or network install
[12:12] <Guest89508> hi. unity is not working in normal mode but working fine in 2d in ubuntu12.04. this problem is comign after installing fglrx drivers
[12:14] <Mocque> what is sudo stand for? and why sudo?
[12:14] <TJ-> Mocque: Super User DO
[12:14] <bekks> !sudo | Mocque
[12:14] <Mocque> i see.. hanks
[12:14] <Mocque> thanks*
[12:14] <TJ-> you're welcome... Tom
[12:15] <Mocque> and ls stand for? > fedora
[12:15] <MasterOfDisaster> Mocque: list
[12:15] <Mocque> tqq
[12:15] <MasterOfDisaster> Mocque: usually, manpages answer these question
[12:17] <Mocque> !kernel
[12:18] <AmbiguousOutlier> I've added a connection to virt-manager, if i create new VM, I get a;
[12:18] <AmbiguousOutlier> Warning: KVM is not available. This may mean the KVM package is not installed or the KVM modules are not loaded. Your virtual machines may perform poorly.
[12:18] <m> تحذير
[12:18] <m>              warning          you may be  watched
[12:23] <linuxearth> when did ubuntu came into existence?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> linuxearth, see the wikipedia entry
[12:24] <linuxearth> oh
[12:24] <linuxearth> i just wanted to know the date
[12:29] <cfhowlett> linuxearth, stay in main channel for ubuntu support.  Ubuntu is one of the most popular distros for linux newcomers
[12:31] <Maurice_la_sauci> hi, I got some problem with the firewall, even if I allow IN & OUT the HTTP & HTTPS service, it doesn't work. Somebody knows why?
[12:32] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:33] <ShapeShifter499> is ubuntu basically debian sid/unstable with canonical patches?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Shapeshifter, neither debian nor canonical would describe it so
[12:34] <ShapeShifter499> cfhowlett, two people in #debian-next on OFTC just agreed with me
[12:35] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499, oh, well then ...
[12:50] <Bardamu> Hi
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Bardamu, greetings
[12:50] <hewhomust> hi Bardamu
[12:51] <bugs_bugger> hi there. anybody here savvy with logical volume management? i upgraded my system and used an existing lvm setup. now, when i extend a partition with lvextend, it displays as being bigger with lvdisplay, but the filesystem itself(nemo) shows it in its old size. do i need to apply the new lv-size to the filesystem somehow?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !lvm
[12:52] <Bardamu> I have an error when I'm trying to install ubuntu: (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[12:52] <bekks> bugs_bugger: you need to resize the filesystem, too.
[12:52] <TJ-> bugs_bugger: lvresize doesn't automatically extend the contained file-system; depends on the FS type
[12:52] <Bardamu> My iso is good I checked with md5sum
[12:53] <bugs_bugger> bekks, TJ-: i know i did that once but forgot. since i use lvm i can't use gparted or the like to resize the filesystem of the partition. is that correct?
[12:53] <TJ-> bugs_bugger: When using lvextend/lvresize, both have a --resizefs option
[12:53] <Bardamu> I tried to make bootable my usb with dd_rescue, lili usb creator...
[12:54] <TJ-> bugs_bugger: If it's an ext file-system, just do "resize2fs /dev/mapper/VG-LV" ... that will usually do an online resize
[12:54] <bugs_bugger> TJ-: thanks! that switch i did not find in the documentation
[12:56] <bugs_bugger> TJ-: resize2fs...im gonna write that down for the next time. thank you. do i need to do that on swap as well?
[12:56] <bekks> bugs_bugger: If you resized swap - yes.
[12:56] <TJ-> bugs_bugger: No, for swap you'd "swapoff /dev/..." then "mkswap /dev/...." then "swapon /dev/..."
[12:59] <bugs_bugger> thanks guys. finally i got space to breathe again ;)
[12:59] <jonathan_b> test
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !test|jonathan_b,
[13:01] <bugs_bugger> TJ-, bekks: have a nice sunday ;) (assuming respective gmt). bugs out.
[13:08] <jonathan_b> test
[13:08] <cfhowlett> jonathan_b, again - yes we see you.
[13:08] <jonathan_b> :)
[13:09] <jonathan_b> just testing 2 xchats the gnome xchat and the X Xchat
[13:09] <christophe_> Salut il y a des personnes qui parle le Francais  ici ??
[13:09] <irssi-mike> desole, je ne parle pas francais
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !fr|christophe_,
[13:10] <cfhowlett> jonathan_b, please use the testing channel for that
[13:10] <christophe_> oki merci
[13:10] <uporot> christophe, hi! u speak russian?
[13:11] <John_John_> lets say that after a few months the new version comes out. am i forced to reinstall my system from scratch ? or there is a command to auto upgrade my entire system to the latest version ? for example from 13.10 to 14.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> uporot, pretty sure that's grench
[13:11] <cfhowlett> John_John_, in a perfect world, you can just upgrade to the new version.
[13:11] <TJ-> John_John_: We have the "do-release-upgrade" tool for that, and the GUI has it's own front-end. You'll get a popup notice when a 'distribution upgrade' is available
[13:12] <irssi-mike> Bardamu: i'm not sure but sometimes them usb creators suck, try a different one
[13:12] <John_John_> TJ-: is it a tool that is already built in and activated in ubuntu by default ?
[13:13] <TJ-> John_John_: Yes
[13:13] <John_John_> thank you:)
[13:23] <_TWS> if 12.04 LTS is supposed to be supported until 2018, how horrible will it be by then if it's already horribly out of date now?
[13:23] <gordonjcp> _TWS: it won't be horrible at all
[13:24] <gordonjcp> _TWS: everything will be patched up to date
[13:24] <gordonjcp> _TWS: if you want the latest and greatest use 13.10, and if you want to live on the bleeding edge 14.04
[13:24] <_TWS> no, I want stable and up to date
[13:24] <cfhowlett> _TWS, gee I don't know - let me jump in my time machine and see
[13:24] <_TWS> not bleeding edge
[13:25] <cfhowlett> _TWS, so then install the latest release and enjoyu
[13:25] <_TWS> but 12.04 is already way behind on updates in the dev system
[13:25] <gordonjcp> _TWS: no
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !lts|_TWS,
[13:25] <gordonjcp> _TWS: 12.04 is always absolutely bang up to date
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Tws, LTS is 5 years not 6
[13:25] <Ben64> if you want up to date and stable, use 14.04 when it comes out
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: lts packages have more scruitinized so will be updated less frequently
[13:26] <pulsar78> for a filesystem expert: formatting an efi partition fat32 (32mb min size) gives error:not enough clusters. But 512*65536=32mb
[13:26] <_TWS> when it comes out... maybe
[13:26] <_TWS> for now, so many hoops to get gcc and other stuff updated
[13:26] <Ben64> pulsar78: 32MB and 32MiB aren't the same
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> _tws: precise is supported til April 2017
[13:26] <_TWS> heck, I was actually surprised a fresh install didn't have gcc
[13:27] <gordonjcp> _TWS: why would it have gcc?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> _tws: why, not everyone wants to compile
[13:27] <gordonjcp> _TWS: normal people never need to compile
[13:27] <_TWS> normal people?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> _tws: yes. Regular users wanting to web browse and chat will probably never need gcc
[13:28] <gordonjcp> _TWS: do you understand the point of Long Term Support releases?
[13:28] <_TWS> and to think people getting pissy about FreeBSD changing the toolchain from gcc to clang
[13:28] <_TWS> web browse = firefox on windows
[13:28] <TJ-> gcc is installed by default by ubuntu-desktop in order to support DKMS builds of out-of-tree kernel modules, such as nvidia and fglx, virtualbox, etc., in later releases
[13:28] <cfhowlett> _TWS, ???
[13:28] <_TWS> server = Freebsd and/or linux when necessary
[13:28] <gordonjcp> _TWS: this discussion is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:29] <pulsar78> Ben64: sorry, i meant 32 MiB
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> _TWS  sure you're in the right channel?
[13:29] <_TWS> yeah, thsi is ubuntu, right
[13:29] <Tom1> gordonjcp: i want to add puppy linux to grub2 menu, in ubuntu , how to do it?
[13:29] <_TWS> I was wondering why the LTS version was so far behind
[13:29] <gordonjcp> Tom1: why are you asking me?
[13:29] <gordonjcp> !grub | Tom1
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> _TWS  tell that in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[13:29] <pulsar78> Ben64: weird is when i use +33M it works ..
[13:29] <gordonjcp> _TWS: it's not
[13:30] <gordonjcp> _TWS: it's always absolutely patched up to date, with the latest updates
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: i dont have it installed here. It will be pulled in as a dep of nvidia-current but its not default
[13:30] <_TWS> how is talking about the ubuntu toolchain off topic/
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> _TWS  this channel is for support
[13:30] <_TWS> that's why I had to add a custom ppa to get gcc 4.8?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> _tws: LTS release concentrate on being rock solid, so packages are scruitinized and tested more
[13:31] <gordonjcp> _TWS: why would you install a different version?
[13:31] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: It's in the suggests stanza for the -desktop packages ("apt-cache rdepends gcc | grep desktop | wc -l" = 5)
[13:31] <gordonjcp> _TWS: that's stupid
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> _tws: the inbetween releases are not so concerned with stability as the LTS releases so packages are more frequently ugraded
[13:32] <_TWS> because I'm working with bleeding edge software.  I just don't want a bleeding edge OS too
[13:32] <TJ-> _TWS: that's what chroot's are useful for
[13:32] <the_joker_> _TWS, sorry me not getting it either .... you work with bleeding edge ... software but refuse a bleeding edge system ?
[13:33] <TJ-> the_joker_: Very sensible; the last thing you want is your own system being unpredictable
[13:33] <_TWS> joker: if you're hunting for pigeons, do you really want to do that from the back of a speeding truck?
[13:33] <the_joker_> @TJ- yes, or any other ... container / chroot like solution ...
[13:33] <cfhowlett> ??? What the hey?
[13:34] <_TWS> bleeding edge software does not require bleeding edge platform
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> _TWS  did you have support question, too?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: ahh http://paste.ubuntu.com/6943153/ not in Lubuntu then :-)
[13:34] <Ben64> _TWS: yet you're cool with using PPAs to get bleeding edge stuff.... anyway, this still isn't on topic here, you can continue pondering the meaning of LTS in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:34] <OerHeks> this is going nowhere
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> _tws: if you compile using bleeding edge libs then you will need those in the OS to make them run as deps
[13:35] <_TWS> ok, I'll go there and let you go back to talking about the best way to dumb down server-class OS to desktop browsing
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> _tws: so ipso-facto you will need a bleeding edge platform to run it on, due to deps
[13:35] <TJ-> _TWS: with the 12.04 LTS Enablement Stack  you can keep with the up-to-date kernels and X stack, and then use LXC or chroot for your development stack
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !server
[13:38] <adqwd> تحذير
[13:38] <adqwd>              warning          you may be  watched
[13:38] <adqwd>   do   usa & israel   use  the internet ( youtube, facebook, twitter, chat rooms,ect...)to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying ?
[13:38] <adqwd> do they record&analyse everything you type????
[13:38] <adqwd> why they ask for ur name,age,gender,occupation,place of work,ur mobile number.............ect, can they use these informations harming you?!!
[13:38] <adqwd>                                        warning          you may be  watched
[13:38] <adqwd>   do   usa & israel   use  the internet ( youtube, facebook, twitter, chat rooms,ect...)to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying ?
[13:38] <adqwd> do they record&analyse everything you type????
[13:38] <adqwd> why they ask for ur name,age,gender,occupation,place of work,ur mobile number.............ect, can they use these informations harming you?!
[13:38] <adqwd>                                      warning          you may be  watched !
[13:38] <adqwd>   do   usa & israel   use  the internet ( youtube, facebook, twitter, chat rooms,ect...)to collect informations,,,,do they record&analyse everything you type????can we call that spying ?
[13:38] <adqwd> why they ask for ur name,age,gender,occupation,place of work,ur mobile number.............ect, can they use these informations harming you?!!
[13:38] <adqwd>                             warning          you may be  watched
[13:38] <adqwd>   do   usa & israel   use  the internet ( youtube, facebook, twitter, chat rooms,ect...)to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying ?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[13:38] <adqwd> تحذير
[13:38]  * TJ- darns his socks
[13:38] <adqwd>              warning          you may be  watched
[13:38] <adqwd>   do   usa & israel   use  the internet ( youtube, facebook, twitter, chat rooms,ect...)to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying ?
[13:39]  * cfhowlett waits patiently for the !ops to smit
[13:39] <cfhowlett> *smite*
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Doesnt seem to be happening but its stopped so is fine
[13:40] <TJ-> "Excess Flood" ... quite appropriate for southern England right now :)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: yeah its crazy down there. Fine up here in Yorkshire :)
[13:40] <Ben64> 14 lines in 5 seconds... where were the floodbots?
[13:41] <Ben64> oh, they are all gone :S
[13:41] <TJ-> Ben64: They've been permanently withdrawn
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: or was thatba bit 'cold'....like 'murrica
[13:41] <cfhowlett> Ben64, wait, what?  no floodbots anymore?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> F
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> F
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> F
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> F
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> D
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> F
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Seems not
[13:41] <Ben64> look at the user list, no floodbots... thats not helpful ActionParsnip
[13:42] <TJ-> The owner of the Floodbot Copyright revoked permissions (see the discussion on the ubuntu-irc mailing list)
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: i cant see the user list on my client
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: well i can its just not overly useful
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  type /names
[13:43] <jasef> Ugh.
[13:43] <jasef> I should NOT have typed /names.
[13:43] <pulsar78> Ben64: it seems to work at exactly 32.5MiB, which i find to be strange.
[13:43] <jasef> Client froze for a few seconds and the darned thing printed all the names in the server status window
[13:44] <Ben64> pulsar78: 32.512207031 by my count
[13:46] <pulsar78> Ben64: any idea why that is ? 66584 sectors instead of the 65536
[13:48] <cyruseck> When I try to run steam I get this error: "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
[13:48] <cyruseck> libc.so.6" How can I go about adding this dependency?
[13:48] <Ben64> pulsar78: nope, i'm no expert on fat32
[13:49] <pulsar78> Ben64: same problem here :/
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> cyruseck: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:50] <user__> Is wireshark terminal-based?
[13:50] <jasef> I beleive it can be.
[13:50] <cyruseck> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[13:50] <TJ-> user: No, it's a GUI front-end to libpcap; tcpdump is the CLI front-end
[13:51] <jasef> Ah. I forgot that. It's been a long time.
[13:52] <chrillster> Dagens!
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> !info libc6:i386
[13:52] <user__> TJ-: what's a CLI front-end?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Hmm
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> cyruseck: seems to be libc6 but you'll want the 32bit one
[13:53] <jasef> user__: Command Line Interface
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> cyruseck: could ask in #ubuntu-steam
[13:54] <user__> jasef: do you know how to install tcpdump?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> User__: be sure to add your user to the wireshark group amd log off and on
[13:55] <cyruseck> ActionParsnip: Ok, Sorry didn't think of asking there
[13:55] <jasef> user__: not offhand, but my assumption would be 'sudo apt-get install tcpdump'
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> User__: according to what I am seeing online, wireshark has a GUI
[13:56] <user__> ActionParsnip: yeah the default is GUI
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> User__: dont see what cli cant be an option though. Useful on servers.
[13:59] <user__> just how to figure out the configuration options I guess
[13:59] <user__> have&
[13:59] <user__> *
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> User__: man pages and examples online are great starts
[14:00] <macpool> could some one suggest if there is an issue with the kernel. here are the contents of /boot http://cl.ly/image/1F1i2U2U1W1Z
[14:00] <BlackFlag> Good morning! I am having difficult to set the monitor resolution of a philco notebook, l41si. Can someone help me? Thanks!
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Macpool: looks fine, you have 2 kernels installed
[14:01] <cfhowlett> macpool, yep - 2 kernels it is
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Macpool: what issue are you seeing?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: its a single line so no need to pastebin
[14:04] <BlackFlag> ActionParsnip, wait a second. I will reenter the chanel from the notebook
[14:04] <macpool> ActionParsnip: *** System restart required *** even after rebooting. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b04a2488ac3ba84e47dd
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Macpool: ive seen this. Gimme a sec
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Macpool: sudo rm /var/run/reboot-required
[14:05] <jasef> Don't really want to install ubuntu again to be able to do troubleshooting, but I'm curious: has anyone else ever had the issue where their wireless card is constantly RF_KILL'd as long as NetworkManager has started?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Macpool: then reboot
[14:08] <kry> Hallo
[14:08] <kry> error: Failed dependencies:
[14:08] <kry> 	glibc >= 2.4 is needed by flash-plugin-11.2.202.336-release.x86_64
[14:08] <kry> 	/bin/sh is needed by flash-plugin-11.2.202.336-release.x86_64
[14:08] <kry> Encountering this error when trying to install Adobe Flash with RPM
[14:08] <BlackFlag> The output of cat /etc/issue : Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[14:08] <OerHeks> kry, why RPM ?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> kry, ?  rpm flash?  why?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Kry: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:08] <kry> I don't know, I just read it I need rpm to read .rpm files
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Kry: see my command above, what is the output please?
[14:09] <cfhowlett> kry, output of cat /etc/issue
[14:09] <macpool> ActionParsnip: trying
[14:09] <kry> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[14:09] <BlackFlag> ActionParsnip,  the output of cat /etc/issue : Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Kry: not only does Ubuntu use deb files and NOT rpms, you also have flash in the offical ubuntu repos
[14:10] <kry> Actually I'm using Lubuntu, but the channel is nearly empty
[14:10] <cfhowlett> kry, same process in lubuntu
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Kry: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Kry: then use lubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: run: sudo lshw -C display ,what is the product line?
[14:11] <BlitzHere> Can someone help my system boot in EFI mode?
[14:11] <BlitzHere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6943345/
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> !efi | BlitzHere
[14:12] <BlitzHere> ActionParsnip: I read that. I tried using boot-repair
[14:12] <BlitzHere> I installed using mini.iso
[14:12] <BlitzHere> Boot repair keeps thinking I don't have EFI partition
[14:13] <BlackFlag> ActionParsnip, does it need pastebin?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> BlitzHere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting is another good link
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> BlackFlag: just need the product line, you can pastebin the entire output if you like
[14:14] <kry> Now I got a Microsoft EULA I can't ok down
[14:14] <cfhowlett> kry, tab and space bar to OK that one
[14:14] <OerHeks> kry, use tab to select and hit enter
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Kry: use TAB then ENTER
[14:14] <cfhowlett> d'oh
[14:14] <kry> Got it
[14:15] <BlackFlag> product: 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[14:16] <OerHeks> BlackFlag, sounds like SIS?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: oh, those can be a massive headache. Ive only see those things work with an xorg.conf file. You will not get 3D acelleration on that GPU under Linux
[14:16] <kry> Do I have to use lubuntu-restricted too, or that's not needed anymore?
[14:16] <BlitzHere> ActionParsnip: http://imgur.com/kJcpIR8
[14:16] <BlackFlag> Yes, SIS... =/
[14:16] <BlitzHere> That's my config right now
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Kry: younwill want the lubuntu one to accommodate the subsystems in Lubuntu
[14:17] <BlitzHere> I'm on a live system
[14:17] <BlackFlag> I tried to creat a xorg.conf, but i not had success, ActionParsnip
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> BlitzHere: ive not used uefi. Im avoiding it as much as possible
[14:17] <newuser> !cups
[14:17] <wheatthin> BlackFlag, use sudo or gksuo
[14:18] <BlitzHere> I'm going to try and see if my computer boots in non UEFI mode
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: i can give you mine and you can set the resolution as you need and the driver will be sis and not nvidia
[14:18] <kry> Now it works, thanks
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: you will need gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,to get write access
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Kry: why did you think you needed the RPM, when Ubuntu uses DEB files?
[14:20] <kry> I don't know, Adobe page gave me a choice of .YUM, .tar.gz or .rpm
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ybhfiwvuh2zcbii/xorg.conf
[14:20] <cfhowlett> kry, next time use the software center to install
[14:20] <kry> .rpm looked the shortest
[14:20] <BlackFlag> wheatthin, i did 1) sudo stop lightdm 2) loged in tty1 3)sudo X -configure 4) copy and past xorg.conf to /etc/X11 and edited it 5) sudo start lightdm...
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Kry: if you had done some research instead of running to the Adobe website you would have seen how it is installed
[14:21] <BlackFlag> Thank you ActionParsnip ! I will try it
[14:21] <wheatthin> BlackFlag, did you copy it over with sudo too?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: you'll need to tweak it.
[14:24] <BlackFlag> wheatthin, yes I did it with sudo
[14:25] <kry> What if I want to install something that is not in the Software centre?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> kry, doable
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Kry: then you will need source or a deb file
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> !away > hdevalence|away
[14:25] <demian> heyguys
[14:26] <kry> What is the reason for .rpm then?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Hi demian
[14:26] <demian> can someone help me with installing something
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Kry: for rpm based distros like Suse, Mandriva etc
[14:26] <cfhowlett> kry, RPM is for redhat linux distros  - different flavor of OS
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> demian: install what?
[14:27] <demian> its backup software for android.. the download is a .tgz file -- and I dont know how to take it from there.
[14:27] <demian> (http://www.clockworkmod.com/carbon)
[14:27] <jozefk> Why LTS releases are every two years and then they are supported for 5 years? What's the reason for over lapping?
[14:27] <kry> Does Lubuntu have gnome-system-monitor or something like that?
[14:28] <demian> The archive has files such as run.sh and adb
[14:28] <BlackFlag> ActionParsnip, do i need to change something more or only the driver?
[14:28] <jasef> jozefk: a lot of corporate entities are very slow upgrading their systems.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: what is the highest res you can run?
[14:28] <jasef> jozefk: Usually, if there's not a good reason to, people will avoid upgrading critical systems full stop.
[14:29] <BlackFlag> ActionParsnip, 1280x800
[14:29] <cfhowlett> jasef, as demonstrated by people STILL running XP ...
[14:29] <jasef> cfhowlett: that fact makes me cry.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: give people chance to plan for upgrades, comlanies will do years of testing etc for when they upgrade a production server
[14:30] <jozefk> How about users here in the channel? What do you do when new LTS is out? Waiting till 2017 or install the new one?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> jasef, that fact makes me laugh.  I'm in China looking at so many XP cash registers and Point Of Sale systems ...
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> BlackFlag: then change the res in the xorg.conf file ifnit is differnt
[14:30] <kry> Hey, I'm still running XP too
[14:30] <cfhowlett> jozefk, different users, different needs.  ME: LTS only
[14:30] <jasef> cfhowlett: What.... why the hell would they use XP? Wouldn't you want Windows Embedded on them if they're running Windows?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: i reinstall each new LTS then it bakes til the next one is out
[14:31] <cfhowlett> jasef, *china* does things - different.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Jasef: if they arent on the web and the shoe fits, why not?
[14:31] <jozefk> That means most of you do reinstall every two years. Makes sense
[14:32] <kry> Can you upgrade between LTS versions?
[14:32] <OerHeks> jozefk, or any 6 months
[14:32] <jasef> I, unfortunately, don't have a computer that I can run Ubuntu on consistently right now.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: i do, but some just leave it til its dead. Some reinstall every new release
[14:32] <kry> Without having to delete the previous system?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> kry, you can upgrade directly from LTS to LTS so - 12.04 to 14.04
[14:32] <jasef> Laptop wireless doesn't work with Network Manager, use my desktop for Windows games, except the CPU is burning up and overheating constantly right now
[14:32] <OerHeks> kry, sure you can
[14:33] <BlackFlag> there is difference in the frequency, but i dont know how to write it... te output of hwinfo --monitor is here, ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/EFuzPNBZ
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Kry: if you like. I like a fresh install without fluff from the old install around
[14:33] <kry> How do I run a .run file?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Blackflag: i though my file had that...
[14:33] <qengho> Hi all.  I'm trying to boot a CD for the first time in ages.  I find I'm dumped into a initramfs shell, but it's not clear why -- no messages or anything.  A strange thing, I think, is that after the shell prompt, the kernel displays the device-discovery lines for the CD device.  So, I suspect that it's trying to rotate root, hasn't settled USB, aborts silently. Advice?
[14:34] <jozefk> Best distro :)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Kry: are you wanting to install Nvidia drivers per chance?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> jozefk: in some cases
[14:34] <kry> Nope, VBox guest additions
[14:34] <kry> It worked for Autorun under Ubuntu, but it has some problem here
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Kry: the guest additions are installed using virtualbox itself
[14:35] <jasef> Just type sudo ./blahblah.Run
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Kry: the app will download an iso you can mount
[14:35] <jasef> I don't know why I capitalised the R.
[14:35] <kry> It's been already done
[14:35] <jasef> ActionParsnip: the iso file has a VBoxAdditions.run file on it.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Jasef: ah
[14:35] <kry> It's mounted, but that one doesn't want to run
[14:36] <kry> -r-xr-xr-x 1 kry kry  9665995 nov   29 18:47 VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[14:36] <jasef> kry: try sudo sh ./VBoxAdditions.run
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Kry: sudo bash filename ,should do it
[14:36] <demian> So when I try to install it, I get this in Terminal:
[14:36] <demian> sudo ./run.sh
[14:36] <demian> ./run.sh: 2: ./run.sh: ./adb: not found
[14:36] <demian> ./run.sh: 7: ./run.sh: ./adb: not found
[14:36] <jasef> Well, with the correct filename; it's beea  long time since I've used VBox additions.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Demian: id contact the author, the email address is on that page. Is the extracted file from the archive not a scrip of some kind?
[14:37] <demian> Yes, run.sh is a script I believe. The adb file is in that archive too
[14:38] <demian> The script is 8 lines long
[14:39] <kry> Building the main Guest Additions module ...fail!
[14:39] <kry> (Look at /var/log/vboxadd-install.log to find out what went wrong)
[14:39] <BlackFlag> ActionParsnip, doesn't work =/
[14:40] <kry> /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.4/src/vboxguest-4.3.4/build_in_tmp: 62: /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.4/src/vboxguest-4.3.4/build_in_tmp: make: not found
[14:40] <kry> Creating user for the Guest Additions.
[14:40] <kry> Creating udev rule for the Guest Additions kernel module.
[14:40] <kry> /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.4/src/vboxguest-4.3.4/build_in_tmp: 62: /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.4/src/vboxguest-4.3.4/build_in_tmp: make: not found
[14:40] <kry> Creating user for the Guest Additions.
[14:40] <kry> Creating udev rule for the Guest Additions kernel module.
[14:40] <kry> /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.4/src/vboxguest-4.3.4/build_in_tmp: 62: /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.4/src/vboxguest-4.3.4/build_in_tmp: make: not found
[14:40] <kry> Creating user for the Guest Additions.
[14:40] <kry> Creating udev rule for the Guest Additions kernel module.
[14:40] <jasef> kry: from memory, it needs build-essential and the kernel headers
[14:40] <jasef> Kry: please paste long things in a pastebin instead of putting them all in the chat
[14:40] <jasef> kry: to fix the make errors, run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[14:41] <Guest12111> What exactly does ubuntu do, when it says 'install alongside (my other distro)'?
[14:41] <jasef> Guest12111: gives you an option on startup to choose which to load.
[14:41] <kry> I will just buy a goddamn Mac....
[14:41] <Guest12111> jasef, I mean, what drive does it pick to install into?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Guest12111, new partition, install ubuntu, setup grub to boot multiple OS's
[14:42] <macpool> ActionParsnip: there is no such thing now.
[14:42] <jasef> Guest12111: I believe it will choose free space if it's there, otherwise resize the largest partition.
[14:42] <demian> kry, why?
[14:42] <macpool> what was that command about, that you sugggested?
[14:43] <Guest12111> jasef, cfhowlett thanks
[14:44] <visualrealityink> I am using linux and am trying to develop on a USB thumb drive. All of my libraries are linked and fine. However when I try to compile the Debug folder returns permission denied. I checked the status of CHMOD and they are 777 and owned by my user. Any ideas why Ubuntu is keeping me from compiling from the drive.
[14:44] <kry> What does this sh command do?
[14:45] <kry> !sh
[14:45] <cfhowlett> visualreality develop on a USB thumb drive?   sounds painful - and silly
[14:46] <visualrealityink> cfhowlett, it is for portability not silly at all. Very valid question in fact.
[14:46] <cfhowlett> visualrealityink, fair enough
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Macpool: no such thing as what?
[14:47] <kry> Header files are missing, but it's doing something
[14:47] <visualrealityink> ccfhowlett I just assumed that it was a ubuntu permission issue and not a GCC issue as I do not have the problem on Mac or Win although they are "child proofed" ;)
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> BlackFlag: you will be fighting that file til it does. SiS are far from friendly
[14:48] <BlackFlag> ActionParsnip, I know it =/ Thank you
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Kry: is the OS not working fully as it was, before you started addig the additions
[14:49] <tolland_> I have a peculiar crashing issue, that might be hardware. but it's reliably triggerable, so I would be interested if anyone could suggest a debugging method
[14:49] <kry> What do you mean by not working fully?
[14:49] <kry> I can't put it for the correct resolution, mouse wheel does not work
[14:50] <kry> But these are more likely the problems with VBox, and additions should fix them
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Kry: ahh makes sense. The additions arent always needed, seems they are in your case.
[14:50] <kry> Like they did with Ubuntu
[14:50] <tolland_> If I move my laptop from the docking station to the wall power, (so on battery for say 30 secs), the machine stays on fine. However when I maximise firefox and click on change tab. the whole machine freezes
[14:51] <tolland_> I thinkk that changing the firefox tab is probably exercising some virtual memory feature that allows firefox to put the tabs to sleep for resources
[14:51] <tolland_> it doesn't happen also in chrome.
[14:51] <tolland_> however the machine is hung, so there is no option to check the dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[14:52] <TJ-> tolland_: does the docking station contain a separate GPU?
[14:53] <tolland_> TJ-: yeah, it appears to have DVI output which is not on the laptop
[14:53] <kry> Now both work
[14:54] <TJ-> tolland_: I'd take a bet that the X server is freezing when the GPU is ripped out from underneath it
[14:54] <TJ-> tolland_: open a terminal whilst connected to the docking station, run "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and then undock and do whatever you do... see what the kernel is saying/complaining about. If nothing there, do the same again but "tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[14:54] <tolland_> TJ-: ah. well it wasn't using the docking station Video out, just has it available
[14:55] <tolland_> TJ-: hehe. perfect. didn't think of soomething like that.
[14:58] <tunage> isn't your kernel header version supposed to match your kernel source version?  http://sprunge.us/IieX
[15:01] <TJ-> tunage: No... The headers are used for building object code against the kernel, the kernel source is more like the GPLv2 requirement to provide source code
[15:01] <newuser> !cups
[15:02] <newuser> !sh
[15:02] <newuser> !clockworksmod
[15:02] <newuser> !cwm
[15:02] <newuser> !clockworkmod
[15:07] <tunage> isn't this the ubuntu kernel source path?  -? /lib/modules/3.11.0-15-generic/
[15:08] <tunage> TJ- thank you!
[15:08] <TJ-> tunage: no, that's the binary modules and module symbols path
[15:08] <kry> Bye
[15:10] <D3llTr33> br?
[15:12] <D3llTr33> Inform anyone know if there is any certification accompanying proof 199 of Ubuntu?
[15:14] <TJ-> !br | D3llTr33
[15:15] <f4rm0r> hey all, I need help upgrading from 12.4.4
[15:16] <macpool> ActionParsnip: The command you suggested "sudo rm /var/run/reboot-required"
[15:16] <macpool> what that command means?
[15:16] <pyb0k3h> hi, i am learning latin for school, my keyboard is currently setup for US/English keyboard layout, i want to change keyboard layout for latin, but I don't see latin listed, is it because it is too similar to English?  I just need to be able to enter vowels with macron symbol
[15:16] <f4rm0r> it says that no upgrade is available to me
[15:16] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r: maybe because that *is* the latest
[15:17] <pyb0k3h> i know i can use character map, but maybe i can create a hotkey for the vowels with macron symbol?  what is best way?
[15:17] <f4rm0r> is not that 13-ish?
[15:17] <SuperEngineer> 12.04.5 is still just a thought
[15:18] <D3llTr33> vlw
[15:18] <Kekai> Hello again
[15:18] <D3llTr33> msg #ubuntu-br
[15:18] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r:  [better option than 13.10 imho is to wait for 14.4 - much better option]
[15:19] <f4rm0r> how so, if I might ask? (my usb pendrive is gone, o cant download live cd and I am sitting without cd-reader)
[15:19] <Kekai> I run Ubuntu 13.10 on a lenovo ideapad netbook and I am having troule with my wifi drivers. I went to the site and downloaded the correct broadcom packages. and installed it but nothing is happening.
[15:22] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r: what does it say in upgrade manager [settings tab under the "notify" option... you might want to set that to something other than "..for LTS releases only" & take it from there
[15:23] <f4rm0r> I have it set to "every release"
[15:23] <f4rm0r> and I have tried on every server in mny
[15:24] <f4rm0r> in my country including Main Server
[15:24] <f4rm0r> nothing
[15:26] <gnuts> hi guys
[15:29] <f4rm0r> SuperEngineer: it stands on "every release" not LTS so nothing wrong there, and I have tried main servers and other servers as well, but nothing >..<
[15:29] <Traintop> Hi Folks; I have a question concerning ubuntu 12.04 and thinkpads; before I upgraded to 12.04 I used a script ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/6943706/ ) to rotate the screen according to the tablet-orientation, but in 12.04 it doesn't work anymore... -any suggestions or should I try a fresh install?
[15:31] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r: I am now at a loss - it really should tell you/notify you - dunno if a restart would help to make the setting "stick" but otherwise I am at the end my knowlege on that one - maybe someone else could jummp in here to help?
[15:33] <f4rm0r> SuperEngineer: Let us hope that old google will help me solve the problem as it helped me upgrading from 10.04 to where I am now ;3
[15:33] <visva_12> Hi. I have changed my themes for icons with Faenza. But, the text highlight background under folder icon did not change, how do I please help me to change the color?
[15:34] <Guest88778> I am trying to dual boot my ubuntu 13.10 with another distro. But all of them strike out at their respective grub installs (tried Mint, Elementary, Ubuntu Studio). Thoughts?
[15:35] <AmbiguousOutlier> hello, virt-manager browse local is greyed out so i can't select an iso to build a vm
[15:35] <TJ-> Guest88778: Are you configuring them to use a separate /boot/ partition/file-system, or does each contain /boot/ in its respective rootfs?
[15:36] <Seveas> AmbiguousOutlier: you probably need to install the relevant KVM tools locally. Or worse: you rcpu doesn't support kvm.
[15:36] <f4rm0r> superEngineer: could it be because I run xubuntu-dektop instead of ubuntu-desktop?
[15:37] <TJ-> AmbiguousOutlier: Have you selected the "ISO" radio-button above the Browse button?
[15:37] <Guest88778> TJ-, I was trying for all partitions to have their own, but I read somewhere that things have changed with UEFI, and there should be a dedicated /boot
[15:38] <visva_12> How do I change the text highlight color of folder icons? Please help,
[15:38] <AmbiguousOutlier> Seveas: yes remote cpu supports VM it's a xeon
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> visva_12  it's a !themes issue, i guess
[15:39] <TJ-> Guest88778: If you're installing on a UEFI system, it will have a GPT partitioning scheme, with the EFI System Partition as the first partition of the boot drive, containing a vfat file-system. Within that, each boot-loader will install its own EFI loader under /EFI/<os-or-loader-name>/
[15:39] <AmbiguousOutlier> TJ-: Yes, then when i select browse a pop up appears and the browse local button is greyed out
[15:39] <Titanium> is there any problems to expect if i do not configure a partition for swap?
[15:40] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r: dunno off hand - hang on a mo, I have a 12.04 netbook using Xubuntu - I'll see what changing the setting does on that
[15:40] <TJ-> AmbiguousOutlier: is the user a member of libvirtd group ("getent group libvirtd") ?
[15:41] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r: {p.s. why run the Xubuntu desktop? Why not just install Xubuntu?
[15:41] <Guest88778> TJ-, I do have that. /boot/efi is the first segment of the drive. But new installs failing at their bootloader installations.
[15:41] <_2_Aurora98> ciao
[15:41] <f4rm0r> well, I do have xubuntu installed
[15:41] <TJ-> Guest88778: maybe they're not starting in EFI mode? And therefore can't do a legacy MBR install since the system is configured for EFI
[15:42]  * SuperEngineer starts up netbook
[15:42] <visva_12> !themes
[15:43] <f4rm0r> SuperEngineer: even tho I have xubuntu installed, I am thinking of going over to ubuntu, but since I do not have a pen-drive, nor the space on my HDD... I cant do a fresh install :b
[15:43] <visva_12> MonkeyDust: Yes, I have successfuly installed faezna themes, but the text highlight color of folder names won't change, can yo please tell me how to?
[15:43] <Guest88778> TJ-, so how do I get them to start in EFI mode?
[15:44] <AmbiguousOutlier> TJ-: rhys@banana:~$ getent group libvirtd
[15:44] <AmbiguousOutlier> libvirtd:x:115:rhys
[15:44] <AmbiguousOutlier> rhys@banana:~$ sudo adduser `id -un` libvirtd
[15:44] <AmbiguousOutlier> The user `rhys' is already a member of `libvirtd'.
[15:44] <TJ-> Guest88778: ensure the installers can boot in EFI mode (that their media has an EFI simple-boot layout)
[15:45] <TJ-> AmbiguousOutlier: OK, so not the obvious issue. I'm assuming you've completely logged-out and back in so that membership is in effect?
[15:46] <AmbiguousOutlier> TJ-: remote server has rebooted, yes
[15:46] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r: lol - I changed update manager to "for any", restarted it & it told me 12.10 was available [+ option to upgrade]
[15:47] <f4rm0r> SuperEngineer: then I have to use my knowledge in google, and hope that changing desktop env will help
[15:47] <SuperEngineer> f4rm0r: good luck
[15:47] <TJ-> AmbiguousOutlier: Hang on... you're running  virt-manager locally, managing a remote instance? In that case that is expectd behaviour, you can't mount a local resource that way, it has to come from a storage pool on the server itself
[15:48] <f4rm0r> SuperEngineer: Thank you :3
[15:48] <Guest88778> TJ-, I checked, the installers can boot in EFI. What now?
[15:49] <badcom> Does anyone know of a good Linux troubleshooting training?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> badcom  trial and error
[15:50] <badcom> MonkeyDust I want an easier one
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> badcom  that's the easiest way, learning from your own mistakes
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> like we all did
[15:50] <badcom> MonkeyDust I'm afraid of breaking the company's server =/
[15:50] <f4rm0r> well, time to relog and see if it works :b
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> badcom  then stay away from it
[15:51] <TJ-> Guest88778: Not sure, my guess would be that the grub 0xEF02 boot-loader partition is being re-written by each distro's grub-install, which will only point to that distro's /boot/grub/ where the grub.cfg menu file is
[15:51] <badcom> lol
[15:51] <AmbiguousOutlier> TJ-:  Unable to complete install: 'Invalid install location: Mounting location '/var/lib/libvirt/images/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso' failed'
[15:52] <Guest88778> TJ-, that's what I figured. So I am now trying to let the default settings have at it. I selected the 'install alongside' option, and nothing changes.
[15:52] <AmbiguousOutlier> TJ-: now worries, I've got to the next step, thanks for your help.
[15:53] <TJ-> Guest88778: My guess is you need to do a hybrid install. Single manual install of grub to a separate GPT linux partition, don't allow the installers of the distros to auto-install grub, and then run efibootmgr manually if needed to add grub to the EFI boot menu
[15:53] <Guest88778> "Failed to install grub-efi to /target/", and then it crashes. Every time.
[15:53] <TJ-> Guest88778: Sounds about right, it's a complex scenario when you require grub to be shared amongst installations that all want to manage it
[15:54] <Guest19883> ciao
[15:55] <Guest88778> TJ-, yeah. Would that mean having to reinstall my current ubuntu install?
[15:56] <TJ-> Guest88778: No; but it'd need some thinking about to design the implementation to avoid issues. You'd ideally want a single distro to manage grub, but be aware of the other installs so it can correctly rebuild the grub config when doing "grub-install" or "update-grub"
[15:57] <Guest88778> TJ-, and how do I stop the other distros from trying to install grub on their own?
[15:57] <TJ-> Guest88778: most installers have an (advanced) option to choose whether to install a boot-loader.
[16:02] <Guest88778> TJ- so elementary apparently lacks that ability to skip bootloader installation.
[16:02] <Guest88778> I tried to have it install its own loader into its separate partition, but that won't fly either.
[16:03] <mrguser> hay
[16:03] <mrguser> Hi
[16:04] <mrguser> woy
[16:04] <mrguser> Ada org indonesia ngak?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> !id
[16:05] <phidah> I have a new ubuntu server installation that accepts ssh connections, but it rejects my password which works fine if I log in to the terminal directly. There is just a ssh_config in /etc/ssh - could it be that sshd is not installed?
[16:06] <mrguser> Mana sieh nie org nya?
[16:07] <Titanium> is here any guide to setting up the open source ATI drivers on ubuntu?
[16:09] <Samopotamus> I have mounted my DD-WRT NAS to a remote machine (Ubuntu Server) through OpenVPN.  I can create directories in it, but I cannot actually create or edit files.  I thought just having authenticated when I mounted the drive was enough, is this not the case?
[16:09] <mrguser> Ngak ada org indonesia nieh?
[16:14] <keksinc> phidah: try installing it and it'll tell you
[16:15] <dwarder> how to mv file.jpg file_epoch_date_here.jpg
[16:15] <dwarder> ?
[16:17] <Seveas> dwarder: mv file.jpg file_$(date +%s).jpg
[16:18] <TeraJL_> i know how to limit my cpu speed, but is there any way to limit my disk speed?
[16:18] <dre_> hey guys
[16:18] <odra> Hey
[16:18] <odra> Can someone help me, I have an audio problem.
[16:19] <Seveas> !someone | odra
[16:19] <bekks> TeraJL_: I dont think so - but why are you trying to?
[16:19] <odra> For some reason when the volume is too high the audio "disappears"
[16:19] <f4rm0r> SuperEngineer: it works now, to be able to upgrade to 12.10 tho, it only works in the terminal o.O
[16:19] <dwarder> Seveas: thank you
[16:19] <dre_> i have this url that works in my browser but when i try to run it with wget it gives syntax error near unexpected token `('
[16:20] <Seveas> TeraJL_: interesting question. You could run some heavy I/O in the background, but other than that, I think modifying the disk driver is the "easiest" option
[16:20] <Seveas> dre_: quote the url
[16:20] <Seveas> so, wget "http//the.url.here"
[16:20] <TeraJL_> but it's an ssd.. running some heavy IO don't seem very god
[16:20] <odra> Like, if my volume is on 100% and I'm listening to something that's even a little loud, the speakers disappear from the sound settings and the audio skips
[16:20] <cormo> hi
[16:20] <odra> But if the volume is around 66% that doesn't happen
[16:20] <odra> I think I have some sort of driver problem :S
[16:21] <cormo> i ned help ....
[16:21] <cormo> need
[16:21] <TJ-> dre_: You probably need to quite the URL because it contains shell expansion characters
[16:21] <Seveas> odra: that's a new one... anything in dmesg?
[16:21] <f4rm0r> does anyone know why I cant upgrade through the update manager, but only through the terminal with do-release-upgrade? o.O
[16:21] <odra> I don't think it's a problem with the hardware because on my windows boot I can play audio louder than the 66% volume in ubuntu without any problems
[16:21] <bekks> TeraJL_: Thats not true. A SSD is built for high I/O.
[16:21] <Seveas> cormo: and we may be able to help you, but not if you don't tell us what the problem is :)
[16:21] <cormo> ubuntu 12.04 .... xbmc .... plugin XVDR-UPDATE
[16:21] <dre_> how do i do that
[16:21] <bekks> TeraJL_: If you limit it, I may send you an old hdd, and you send me the SSD in return :)
[16:22] <tunage> f4rm0r apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[16:22] <cormo> don't work
[16:22] <Seveas> dre_, wget "http//the.url.here"
[16:22] <dre_> ok let me try that
[16:22] <f4rm0r> tunage: thank you, will try that :3
[16:22] <TeraJL_> bekks: but it has a limited use... my intention to limit it is just so i can go to the bathroom while league of legends is loading .. i know it's a stupid reason, but i got curios if it's possible :)
[16:23] <odra> Seveas: no
[16:23] <bekks> TeraJL_: It has no limited use.
[16:23] <odra> Seveas: at least I don't think so
[16:23] <bekks> TeraJL_: Unless it is an 10y old SSD, it has not limited use.
[16:23] <tunage> f4rm0r  opps  ->   apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:23] <Seveas> TeraJL_: haha, excellent purpose :)
[16:23] <odra> Seveas: Is dmesg some sort of system log? Are the last lines the newest?
[16:23] <crankharder> any ideas why ubuntu would hang on the GRUB screen?  loads up, shows me what kernels i can select and is immediately unresponsive
[16:24] <f4rm0r> tunage oh, I can do that dist-upgrade with do-release-upgrade but thank you anyway, and now I know a way to upgrade with apt-get as well x')
[16:24] <TJ-> TeraJL_: Try the "ionice" command
[16:24] <Seveas> odra: the 'dmesg' command displays the content of the kernel logging buffer, it contains the most recent messages from the kernel. And yes, the last lines are the newest
[16:24] <tajamul> can anybody develop multiloader a  flashing software for bada phones(samsung wave phones) for linux
[16:24] <f4rm0r> ya learn something new veryday ;3
[16:25] <tunage> crankharder borked kernel
[16:25] <dre_> thanks guys
[16:25] <Seveas> tajamul: probably someone can, but that's rather offtopic in here I'm afraid
[16:25] <odra> Seveas: Either there is nothing or the pattern is just really big, I can't tell. I see something about IPV6. :|
[16:25] <dre_> it worked
[16:25] <TJ-> crankharder: Freezes whilst just displaying the grub menu, or is it going on to load the default kernel and freezing at that point?
[16:26] <mrguser> hay
[16:26] <Seveas> hello mrguser
[16:26] <dre_> any have experience with asterisk
[16:26] <f4rm0r> *drags a magnet over another hdd
[16:26] <f4rm0r> will it still work?
[16:27] <mrguser> hello :)
[16:27] <odra> Seveas: This had happened before, after a system update, I think I was able to solve it then by reinstalling the audio base. This time, however, that didn't work :/
[16:27] <tajamul> ok i modify my question can someone develop it for ubuntu so that it can be used for porting ubuntu to samsung wave phones
[16:27] <crankharder> TJ-: on the menu
[16:27] <bekks> tajamul: Can someone develop ehat exactly?
[16:27] <bekks> *what
[16:27] <tajamul> it is a little piece of sofware 149 kb
[16:28] <mrguser> Can you help me?
[16:28] <dinesh21> guys
[16:28] <bekks> tajamul: What is "it"?
[16:28] <odra> Seveas: On an unrelated note it seems to be recognizing a microphone even though my microphone isn't in. I think my audio is just messed up :S
[16:28] <tajamul> i have completely shunned windows but this softare makes me to go back to windows
[16:28] <Seveas> mrguser: you haven't told us what you need help with yet :)
[16:28] <dinesh21> Can someone tell me how to solve wubildr.mr error?
[16:28] <bekks> tajamul: _which_ software?
[16:29] <f4rm0r> tajamul: what is it named?
[16:29] <Seveas> odra: it's probably detecting that you have a microphone *input*, not necessarily a microphone plugged in to it
[16:29] <tajamul> multiloader is a flashing software for bada phones(samsung wave series phones)
[16:29] <mrguser> please answer
[16:29] <tajamul> it will help us to port ubuntu to these phones
[16:29] <bekks> mrguser: First state your problem please.
[16:30] <dinesh21> me?
[16:30] <bekks> tajamul: So port it. :)
[16:30] <arceye> need help with wired network problem. I boot pc network is fine , use the pc for a short while and network speeds grinds to a halt
[16:30] <odra> Seveas: Either way this sucks. If I put it on 100% it breaks, but 66% is not loud enough :(
[16:30] <tajamul> as bada os was shunned by samsung and users are left in wilderness thety have ported android to it now it is ubuntus turn
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> mrguser  start with a question
[16:30] <odra> Seveas: And on sound settings 100% isn't even the highest volume
[16:30] <Seveas> odra: I agree. Maybe file a bug report on launchpad?
[16:31] <dinesh21> wubildr.mbr error while booting
[16:31] <bekks> tajamul: Personally, I dont see any responsibility of Ubuntu at that point. It is not Ubuntu who needs that software.
[16:31] <mrguser> Sevcas
[16:31] <Seveas> dinesh21: try installing Ubuntu properly, not using wubi
[16:31] <tajamul> but it will provide ubuntu a great platform
[16:31] <f4rm0r> tajamul: you could ask in the ubuntu forum if anyone wants to help ya with it, tho it is not ubuntus responibilty to port it to linux
[16:32] <dinesh21> thanks
[16:32] <omgwtf> anyone wants to try to troubleshoot my openvpn server with me ? :D
[16:32] <bekks> tajamul: Ubuntu has nothing to do with Android. No Ubuntu platform at all.
[16:32] <Seveas> !anyone | omgwtf
[16:33] <tajamul> it is small bit of software that will be helpful in porting ubuntu to wave phones so kindly  create a version of it for ubuntu
[16:33] <TJ-> bekks: tajamul http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/12/announcing-ubuntu-and-android-dual-boot-developer-preview/
[16:33] <f4rm0r> I find it fun that my small acer aspire one 10" does not restart when over 90% nor does it even throttle x'D
[16:33] <tajamul> for flashing we have to go back to windows which is hectic
[16:34] <f4rm0r> PS: sorry for off-topic, but I am being alone and I am bored more or less, and flash wont work, reinstalled it several times, so I cant watch anime nor any more nor Youtube
[16:34] <arceye> what would cause mu xubuntu to slow to a crawl after approx 1 hour
[16:34] <tajamul> i tried to make it work on wine but it doesnt
[16:34] <Seveas> !ot | f4rm0r
[16:34] <TJ-> tajamul >>> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/12/announcing-ubuntu-and-android-dual-boot-developer-preview/
[16:34] <Seveas> tajamul: as you can see, nobody in this channel seems interested. Maybe ask on the forums or contact canonical?
[16:35] <f4rm0r> ubottu: thank you, somewhere where I can spend my spare time :3
[16:36] <FiremanEd> !bug 1232816 > FiremanEd
[16:36] <Samopotamus> Phone Ubunu is going to be more Linux-y than Android, right?
[16:37] <jasef> msg NickServ identify Monz200492
[16:37] <jasef> er
[16:37] <jasef> ... that worked terribly
[16:37] <kyle__> jasef: TIme to change that password buddy....
[16:37] <TJ-> jasef: time to change you password... and your DOB!
[16:37] <Seveas> FiremanEd: the > and | features are only supported by the encyclopedia plugin (the one with all the factoids), not the bugtracker plugin
[16:37] <jasef> Not my DOB :p
[16:37]  * Samopotamus googling any other uses of name "jasef"
[16:38] <FiremanEd> thanks Seveas
[16:38] <mrguser> hi
[16:38] <tajamul> doest it make a great newspaper headline shunned by samsung helped by canonical
[16:38] <kyle__> On my 13.10 boxes, alt-tab stopps working.  SO does the windows key to bring up the exposay type thing.
[16:38] <TJ-> jasef: good job, I can cross you off the birthday card list :)
[16:38] <Seveas> kyle__: install ccsm and bring them back :)
[16:38] <kyle__> It works for a while, then it stopps working altogeather.
[16:38] <kyle__> ccsm?
[16:38] <mrguser> can you help me?
[16:39] <Seveas> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | kyle__
[16:39] <Seveas> mrguser: no.
[16:39] <Luyin> mrguser: not if you don'T say what your problem is... :P
[16:39] <Seveas> Luyin: he's been told that several times :)
[16:40] <kyle__> The other (obvious?) question is, if this is a known enough issue that people can respond so quickly, how come it hasn't been fixed?
[16:40] <jasef> Well.. 11.04 is installed, now just to upgrade step by step until network manager breaks to determine where the problem started
[16:41] <mrguser> what this?
[16:41] <jasef> *cry*
[16:41] <Seveas> kyle__: I don't think it's a well-known issue, in fact you're the first one I know of that has it. But with ccsm you can set many hotkeys quickly, so that's an easy fix
[16:41] <Seveas> jasef: hah, that's going to suck, doing 5 dist-upgrades in a row.
[16:41] <kyle__> Seveas: Ahh.  I'm trying to figure out WTF it works, then dies.  Even the shortcuts in the keyboard control panel are set to none when this happens.
[16:42] <jasef> Yeah well... recent versions break my wifi the second NetworkManager starts.
[16:42] <Seveas> jasef: maybe try just recompiling the 11.10 and newer NetworkManager packages on 11.04? Should be a lot quicker.
[16:42] <mrguser> im using nokia e63
[16:42] <jasef> Dependencies could be a b**** though
[16:42] <dpy> hi guys
[16:43] <mrguser> please speek indonesia
[16:43] <Seveas> kyle__: o...k... any files in your homedir owned by root? (I had something similar when I accidently broke ~/.gnome or something)
[16:43] <Seveas> !id | mrguser
[16:43] <dpy> does anyone know if there is a pulseaudio package for ubuntu somewhere that has the equalizer-sink module?  And why isn't this compiled be default?
[16:43] <mrguser> thx
[16:43] <kyle__> Err.  I don't think so.
[16:43] <Seveas> jasef: true, but I think you'll be alright there, what's the NetworkManager version in 11.04?
[16:43] <dpy> do I now really have to compile my own pulseaudio to get that module?
[16:44] <TJ-> kyle__: Have you tested whether the same thing occurs in a new user's clean profile? That'd help indicate if it is system-wide, or related to your user's configuration
[16:44] <jasef> Seveas: How do I find out again?
[16:44] <Seveas> dpy: the normal pulseaudio package has that, at least on 13.10
[16:44] <Seveas> jasef: apt-cache policy network-manager
[16:44] <Seveas> dpy: dennis@spirit:~$ apt-file search equalizer-sink
[16:44] <Seveas> pulseaudio: /usr/lib/pulse-4.0/modules/module-equalizer-sink.so
[16:45] <TJ-> jasef: Did you capture kern.log and/or syslog when it failed? That can be very useful in determining what's broken
[16:45] <kyle__> TJ-: THere's only one user, so I could add a new one..but if the behavior repeats, it may be a week or two on a new profile before it happens.
[16:45] <jasef> seveas: 0.8.4
[16:45] <Seveas> oof...
[16:45] <jasef> TJ-, no, I didn't; it was ages ago and I needed my laptop up and running quickly.
[16:45] <bluebasher> why can't I play movies on my laptop? I upgraded to the latest distro...
[16:45] <tajamul> please please develop multiloader for ubuntu
[16:45] <TJ-> kyle__: If the settings are being removed, as the config utility seems to show, either the config is being corrupted or some background process is changing things
[16:46] <Seveas> jasef: that's going to give you problems, dist-upgrade until you hit an 0.9 version, after that the recompile trick should work
[16:46] <TJ-> jasef: shame. It might be worth striking out to test the 14.04 live daily ISO
[16:46] <tajamul> all developers please develop multiloader for ubuntu
[16:46] <dpy> Seveas: This is 12.04LTS
[16:46] <Seveas> tajamul: you're being annoying now. Please stop.
[16:46] <TJ-> !ot | tajamul
[16:46] <dpy> I've tried apt-file, no hits
[16:47] <Seveas> dpy: so you need to upgrade :)
[16:47] <jasef> Might be, but I'd have to install it; I think the live one worked
[16:47] <dpy> Seveas: can't, company laptop
[16:47] <jasef> Seveas, downloading all the natty updates!
[16:48] <TJ-> dpy: "dpkg-query -S 'module-equalizer-sink.so'  "
[16:48] <dpy> TJ-: No I don't have the file
[16:49] <dpy> and no package accessible through my sources has it either
[16:49] <bluebasher> i tried to install the restricted updates to play my movies...  it won't do it! :-(
[16:50] <dpy> my pulseaudio is the kxstudio one btw, but I can switch to anything I want, except that I don't know where to get the right package
[16:50] <Seveas> dpy: a quick google only showed one for 9.10 - looks like you need to do some recompiling with equalizer-sink enabled
[16:51] <dpy> yeah that sucks
[16:51] <TJ-> dpy: It wasn't added to the pulseaudio package until 13.04
[16:51] <dpy> but the module has been there for ages
[16:51] <dpy> why not compile everything when you create a package I wonder
[16:52] <Seveas> dpy: maybe it was of very low quality (a common reason to exclude some optional extras)
[16:53] <TJ-> dpy: looking in the source's commit history
[16:53] <dpy> Seveas: just don't enable it, would have been my choice
[16:54] <dpy> I think I'm also going to ask in kxstudio..
[16:56] <dpy> is there a way to see which ppa is providing a package?
[16:57] <TJ-> dpy: module-equalizer-sink was added in bzr revision 180, ubuntu version 1.3.0-0ubuntu1, 2013-02-14, see bug #1078543
[16:57] <jasef> !away>geudrik
[16:57] <whoever> hi all,  i am adding programs to alacarte, and the entry is not showing in alacarte after I create it, but it is there, how can I fix this?  the multiple entries do show in dasher when I type the program name though
[16:59] <AKILES> hi people
[16:59] <AKILES> !
[16:59] <compdoc> ?
[17:03] <nomine> Is anyone here GPEN certified?
[17:03] <whoever> AKILES: hi
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> nomine  what is your actual issue?
[17:04] <SupaYoshi> anyone here has a tutorial on how to delete an ssl certificate (self-signed) and recreate a new one?
[17:05] <nomine> MonkeyDust: I would like to get GPEN certified, but the course it just too expensive ~5000$. The certification exam is around 600$. I'm already OSCP certified, and I would like to know if I should go ahead for GPEN.
[17:05] <bcgrown> On the CBC olympics flash player,  it just shows a black box instead of playing anything.  If I right-click I can see all the Flash menu stuff.  Anyone know the fix?
[17:05] <whoever> hi all,  i am adding programs to alacarte, and the entry is not showing in alacarte after I create it, but it is there, how can I fix this?  the multiple entries do show in dasher when I type the program name though. I am on 13.10
[17:06] <Seveas> nomine: try asking on security.stackexchange.com - that's a much better audience for your question
[17:06] <nomine> Seveas: thank you very much!
[17:06] <SupaYoshi> thnx
[17:07] <AmbiguousOutlier> hello, I'm trying to improve the graphics on my KVM via virt-manager. I want to use spice, but it says no module name spiceclientgtk
[17:07] <AmbiguousOutlier> i've installed spice-client-gtk
[17:10] <ajoul> is there an easy way to uninstall grub other than using the installation disk?
[17:10] <ajoul> is there an easy way to uninstall grub other than using the installation disk?
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> ajoul  "easy" depends on how skilled you are
[17:12] <petr33> is there any person who can help me with pure-ftpd?
[17:12] <Seveas> !anyone | petr33
[17:12] <ajoul> <MonkeyDust easy means easy as in less work
[17:13] <Seveas> ajoul: not even the Ubuntu installation disk uninstalls grub afaik, you'll need the repair disk for whatever other OS you have
[17:13] <Kang-anan> how to download ububtu
[17:13] <Seveas> !download
[17:14] <ajoul> Seveas assuming I have access to my windows machine and can boot to it, then is it possible?
[17:14] <pinarello> !ububtu
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Kang-anan  ubuntu.com
[17:14] <ajoul> !download
[17:14] <Seveas> ajoul: most likely. If it's not UEFI and not using some weird encryption software that mucks about with the windows bootloader, an fisk /fixmbr should get rid of grub
[17:15] <Seveas> ajoul: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013
[17:15] <Seveas> it talks about dos, but applies to non-uefi windows too
[17:16] <envolt> Irc works fine on windows phone too
[17:18] <jasef> envolt, I'm curious, what IRC client do you use for Windows Phone.
[17:22] <dpy> ok
[17:23] <dpy> the equalizer-sink module apparently adds a lot of gnome dependencies, which the kde purists don't like...
[17:23] <dpy> I personally don't care
[17:23] <dpy> HDD is dirt cheap
[17:23] <dpy> time is priceless
[17:23] <dpy> I just want things to work
[17:25] <Seveas> purists, schmurists :)
[17:26] <someone755> hi! i have a problem with setting up nginx's virtual host. everytime when i open up the page it's not available. what could be wrong?
[17:26] <indn1234> .bang
[17:28] <Seveas> someone755: you probably made a mistake somewhere :) Tell us the hostname and pastebin the conifg
[17:29] <someone755> @Sev
[17:29] <someone755> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/G1W083au
[17:31] <dpy> Seveas: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/pulseaudio-eq?field.series_filter=precise
[17:31] <dpy> this ppa has the pulseaudio with equalizer
[17:31] <dpy> The tricky bit was to force-downgrade from the kxstudio packages
[17:31] <TJ-> someone235: have you correctly sym-linked the config to the sites-enabled/ directory?
[17:32] <dpy> now I have to pin these
[17:32] <someone755> TJ-: yes, with sudo ln -s sites-av..../domain.tld sites-en..../domain.tld
[17:33] <dpy> holding is the correct term here
[17:33] <TJ-> dpy: You could have fetched the source for the current package, modified it to install the module, incremented the version, and built it as a matching deb, then there wouldn't be the same downgrade issues
[17:34] <TJ-> someone755: anything in the error log?
[17:34] <Seveas> someone755: well, that may have created a broken symlink, pastebin the output of ls -la /etc/nginx/sites-enabled
[17:34] <someone755> TJ-: nothing
[17:34] <Seveas> someone755: also, don't redact domain names if you want us to check things...
[17:35] <someone755> Seveas: the symbolic link is in red color, is this good or not?
[17:35] <Seveas> someone755: no.
[17:36] <Seveas> someone755: pastebin the output...
[17:36] <someone755> Seveas: i think that I figured out what's wrong
[17:36] <dpy> TJ-: It's not a real downgrade, it's from 1.1 to 1.1, except that in order to upgrade, these PPA's add release suffixes
[17:36] <someone755> Seveas: I didn't write the whole path to the file
[17:36] <bish0p_> I'm trying to install a file, but it's telling me I'm missing python2.6
[17:36] <GRILLIT> How can I install all dependencies of a dpkg?
[17:36] <bish0p_> Does anyone know what package I need to get?
[17:36] <dpy> TJ-: this solution is must more efficient
[17:36] <dpy> TJ-: apt-get install pulseaudio=version
[17:36] <dpy> you can't beat that
[17:37] <TJ-> I do, frequently ;p
[17:37] <GRILLIT> bish0p_: just type sudo apt-get install python2.6
[17:37] <TJ-> but it still doesn't do what I ask it to :D
[17:37] <Seveas> bish0p_: none. You can't install what you're trying to install. Don't just install random .deb's as that won't work.
[17:37] <bish0p_> I tried that, it threw a bunch of errors.
[17:37] <Seveas> bish0p_: what are you trying to install?
[17:37] <Seveas> GRILLIT: Ubuntu switched to 2.7 quite a while ago, 2.6 is no longer available.
[17:37] <bish0p_> Uh, pesterchum. http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?37333-PESTERCHUM-3-14-1-New-Pesterchum-%286-26-3-41-8eta-pg54%29
[17:38] <GRILLIT> Seveas: oh right
[17:38] <GRILLIT> How can I install all dependencies of a dpkg?
[17:38] <Seveas> bish0p_: http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?43922-PESTERCHUM-3.41-Updated-Pesterchum!-New-Thread has new instructions
[17:39] <bish0p_> Augh, I missed that. Thanks.
[17:39] <someone755> Seveas: it is possible to run more diffrent domains and pages on port 80 on nginx?
[17:39] <Seveas> GRILLIT: open it with software-center, it'll do that. alternatively, just install it with dpkg -i (which will error out) and then run apt-get -f install (which will fix the errors by installing dependencies)
[17:39] <Seveas> someone755: yes
[17:39] <GRILLIT> Seveas: cheers
[17:40] <chrillster> Hi,  just wonder, is it possible to set up webdav server using webmin? Server 12.04. (yes im a newbie)
[17:40] <TJ-> someone755: Most web-servers can do named virtual hosts, if the browser supports HTTP v1.1
[17:40] <Seveas> someone755: for example, kaarsemaker.net and seveas.net (and some more...) run on the same IP with nginx
[17:40] <Seveas> !webmin
[17:40] <jhutchins> chrillster: webmin is a bad idea in general.
[17:40] <Seveas> wow, that factoid got mellowed down a bit
[17:40] <Seveas> don't use webmin. Ever. Same for cpanel.
[17:41] <chrillster> jhutchins I realize that. I set up my https  server for streaming media from command line. Then i noticed i couldnt mount https as a windows network location.
[17:41] <chicobcn> holaa
[17:41] <chicobcn> tengo el ubuntu instalado
[17:41] <chicobcn> y estoy utulizando ahora
[17:41] <Seveas> !es | chicobcn
[17:41] <chicobcn> como se instalan las cosas?
[17:41] <chrillster> So im not sure, ill probably try webdav, unless anyone know any better alternatives?
[17:41] <someone755> thank you for help!!!! :)
[17:42] <jhutchins> chrillster: You have to know how to fix things manually when webmin breaks, but it can cause more breakage than if you just did them manually to begin with.
[17:42] <someone755> bye
[17:42] <chrillster> jhutchins ill stay away from wbmin
[17:42] <chrillster> I heard of owncloud, but im not sure you can stream from that clouddrive.
[17:45] <dragonslay> how about virtualmin chrillster ?
[17:46] <jhutchins> chrillster: FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega.  Don't use <Webmin>.   http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels
[17:46] <skinkitten> glitsj16, \o, hey friend in the ubuntu&&canon trenches
[17:46] <skinkitten> glitsj16, look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6944450/
[17:48] <HelloWorld321> I'm having trouble with gparted.  I have an ext4 partition named sda1 with 9gb; I have an "extended" partition named sda2 with 1MB, that houses a linux swap partition named sda5; then finally I have 30gb unallocated.  How do I move the sda2-extened/sda5-swap so that I can expand sda1 to include the unpartitioned space?
[17:48] <Xuisce> hi HelloWorld321
[17:49] <bekks> HelloWorld321: No.
[17:49] <jasef> HelloWorld321, you can technically delete your swap partition and recreate it after expanding.
[17:49] <HelloWorld321> Hi Xuisce.  Thanks for taking a look.  I'm pulling things around, and it seems that the only things it will let me do are: shrink sda1, expand sda2.  I can't seem to touch sda5 nor expand sda1
[17:50] <Xuisce> HelloWorld321:  as bekks said no
[17:50] <HelloWorld321> Thanks jasef.  Is that safe?  Is ...
[17:50] <Xuisce> hm
[17:50] <HelloWorld321> so no?  don't do it?
[17:50] <Xuisce> nope
[17:50] <Halloguys> Hey, has anyone every heard of the term "junk utility"?
[17:50] <HelloWorld321> but what I could do is mount a new partition?
[17:50] <bekks> HelloWorld321: Shrink sda2 to exclude the unpartitioned space, move it, so you have sda1, unpartitioned space, sda2. Then merge the unpartitioned space into sda1.
[17:51] <Halloguys> I need to know for school...
[17:51] <dragonslay> Halloguys, bleachbit?
[17:51] <bekks> Halloguys: You need to know "Anyone ever heard of a utility XYZ"?
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> tx bekks.  I'll poke a bit at sda2.
[17:52] <Halloguys> Uhhh...
[17:52] <jhutchins> HelloWorld321: Are you trying to do this from the system you're altering, or did you boot from a gparted disk?
[17:52] <Halloguys> "junk utility" is not a name or something, it is a real term, as far as I know
[17:53] <Seveas> never heard of it
[17:53] <bekks> Halloguys: A real term describing what?
[17:53] <glitsj16> skinkitten: hi o/ .. was doing a household job .. having a look at that link
[17:53] <jasef> I would assume it to be utility apps that serve no real purpose, like registry cleaners on Windows.
[17:53] <HelloWorld321> jhutchins: Ubuntu Live Cd.  I have gparted iso also.  For more technical details, it's actually a vbox vdi that's just been resized, because I originally allocated just a tiny bit of space, and now I'm starting to use it.
[17:53] <Halloguys> A replacing command for a thing such as te commanong like thatmething like that
[17:53] <OerHeks> Halloguys, you might want apt-get, it can  remove junk utilities
[17:54] <Halloguys> and it's supposed to be self-made
[17:54] <bekks> Halloguys: Can you please rephrase?
[17:54] <jhutchins> HelloWorld321: You do have a backup of any important data on the system?
[17:54] <Seveas> Halloguys: you mean an alias?
[17:54] <HelloWorld321> yup
[17:54] <Seveas> then say that :)
[17:55] <kabel_zz> help
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> kabel_zz  with pleasure, when we know what's wrong
[17:55] <Halloguys> No it's not an alias
[17:55] <dpy> great
[17:55] <dpy> I'm all up and running again
[17:55] <dpy> PPAs are great
[17:56] <bekks> Halloguys: So what is it then?
[17:56] <kabel_zz> please learning to hack ubuntu
[17:56] <glitsj16> skinkitten: the make errored out, probably you need to install another dependency, let me have a look at it and i'll report back .. also, the make step never needs sudo, only the make install step, but we can give it another try when i've tracked down the possible dependency .. refresh the old memeory cell here would you: using ubuntu 12.04 yes?
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> kabel_zz  define "hack"?
[17:57] <kabel_zz> hack creditcart with ubuntu
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> kabel_zz  wrong channel
[17:57] <Halloguys> bekks, It is supposed to be a replacing command for such a command such as 'rm', or something like that
[17:57] <Seveas> kabel_zz: I suggest you get the hell out of here.
[17:57] <kabel_zz> hahahha
[17:57] <jasef> kabel_zz, you'll receive no help doing that here.
[17:57] <DJones> !illegal | kabel_zz
[17:57] <Xuisce> kabel_zz: nope
[17:57] <kabel_zz> :x
[17:57] <sasa84> hello
[17:57] <Xuisce> kabel_zz: please ask a question or get out
[17:57] <Xuisce> :)
[17:58] <kabel_zz> :(
[17:58] <Xuisce> hey sasa84
[17:58] <kabel_zz> kidding me
[17:58] <sasa84> how to reset password for lists.ubuntu.com? i forgot it and i'm the admin :\
[17:58] <jasef> kabel_zz, nothing illegal will be supported here.
[17:59] <bekks> Halloguys: Actually never heard of something like that in the past 20 years.
[17:59] <sasa84> hello Xuisce
[17:59] <Xuisce> hello
[18:00] <jasef> Halloguys, do you mean if someone makes a script/utility that replaces the original 'rm' command with something else?
[18:00] <aaronr_> Hi everyone. Trying to backport a package from trusty to precise with backportpackage, but i'm getting a Dependency Wait on launchpad because one of the packages depends on a -dev package that's in trusty's universe repo
[18:01] <aaronr_> how do I tell backportpackage to look in universe?
[18:01] <Halloguys> jassf, Yes
[18:01] <Xuisce> welcome to #ubtu aaronr_
[18:01] <Xuisce> #Ubuntu
[18:01] <aaronr_> thanks Xuisce
[18:01] <skinkitten> glitsj16, correct! ubuntu 12.04
[18:02] <HelloWorld321> bekks: I think you misspoke.  You said to shrink sda2 to exclude the unpartitioned space.  That was already the case, but I wasn't able to move it.  What seems to be working is I expanded sda2 to include the unpartitioned space, moved sda5 to the end of sda2, and then shrunk sda2 back down.  Now I have: sda1, unpartitioned spade, sda2 and am merging the unpartitioned space indto sda1
[18:02] <glitsj16> skinkitten: thanks, let's run: sudo apt-get install libgutenprint-dev libgimp2.0-dev libijs-dev libgs-dev foomatic-db-gutenprint | pastebinit .. to see were you stand and paste the link here please
[18:03] <HelloWorld321> I haven't committed the changes yet.  It gave me a warning about grub and moving boot partitions, when I moved the sda5 swap partition.  I'm a little fuzzy about grub, though.  I do this move, then I boot, then grubloader complains and then I tell it where I moved sda5?
[18:04] <aaronr_> hmm, seems my question is wrong. the original package is in universe and it can see that
[18:04] <aaronr_> but it can't see a -dev package it depends on
[18:04] <skinkitten> glitsj16, hm, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:05] <aaronr_> i just get backportpackage: Error: The package 'libdvbcsa-dev' does not exist in the Ubuntu primary archive in trusty, trusty-security, trusty-updates or trusty-proposed
[18:05] <aaronr_> but this would imply otherwise: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libdevel/libdvbcsa-dev
[18:05] <OerHeks> !find libdvbcsa-dev trusty
[18:06] <bekks> HelloWorld321: Are you doing all that from a livecd?
[18:06] <OerHeks> !info libdvbcsa-dev trusty
[18:06] <HelloWorld321> bekks: yes, tx.  So far.  I'm running gparted from a livecd.
[18:07] <aaronr_> launchpad build log is here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166447926/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.opencaster_3.2.2%2Bdfsg-1~precise1~ppa1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz
[18:07] <aaronr_> trying a local build
[18:07] <HelloWorld321> bekks: I'm about to commit those changes, once I figure out what to do about the grub
[18:07] <bekks> HelloWorld321: Without the exact warning you get we cant help you.
[18:07] <HelloWorld321> ah
[18:07] <teward> aaronr_: I'm not sure whether or not this matters, but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvbcsa/1.1.0-2 is relevant...
[18:07] <glitsj16> skinkitten: that's to be expected if you did the step earlier, i'm rdownloading the gutenprint source from cvs to get on the same page .. give it a minute
[18:08] <skinkitten> glitsj16, yes sir, :)
[18:08] <teward> aaronr_: according to the Launchpad page for it, for Trusty, it only has arm64 and ppc64el builds
[18:08] <teward> aaronr_: if your package is building for some other architecture, it might run into this problem because the software doesn't have i386/amd64/etc. builds
[18:08] <aaronr_> teward: Oh. Well that'd explain it for sure.
[18:09] <aaronr_> looks like i should backport that from quantal then
[18:09] <teward> aaronr_: or rather, port it from Quantal to Trusty
[18:09] <teward> aaronr_: mind waiting a bit first?
[18:09]  * teward wants to check the publication history on the package
[18:10] <learner> My touchpad is not working after installing ubuntu 13.10 .
[18:10] <Sot> hi
[18:10] <HelloWorld321> bekks: "You have queued an operation to move the start sector of partition /dev/sda2.  Failure to boot is most likely to occur if you move the GNU/Linux partition containin/boot"
[18:11] <Sot> [ user ]
[18:11] <bekks> HelloWorld321: Yeah, you may have to reinstall grub afterwards.
[18:11] <HelloWorld321> bekk: I'm not sure if /boot is in the sda1 or sda2
[18:11] <Sot> Meta-1
[18:11] <HelloWorld321> and that's a pretty simple operation?
[18:11] <aaronr_> teward: my target platform is (eventually) precise
[18:11] <bekks> HelloWorld321: It cant be in sda2, since thats an extended partition.
[18:11] <bekks> !grub2 | HelloWorld321
[18:11] <aaronr_> or do i need it working on trusty to then backport it?
[18:11] <teward> aaronr_: for a PPA you shouldn't need it on Trusty, I thought you were doing the opposite
[18:12] <teward> aaronr_: it doesn't exist in Precise, that's the problem.
[18:12] <aaronr_> backportpackage: Error: The package 'libdvbcsa-dev' does not exist in the Ubuntu primary archive in quantal, quantal-security, quantal-updates or quantal-proposed
[18:12] <aaronr_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvbcsa/1.1.0-2/+build/3451818 seems to disagree
[18:12] <glitsj16> skinkitten: what exactly did you download from the gutenprint CVS? i used the bottom link 'download GNU tarball' from http://gimp-print.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gimp-print/print/
[18:12] <teward> aaronr_: i think your backportpackage is broken
[18:12] <HelloWorld321> okay.  could it be in sda5?  (to me, they're practically synonymous sda2 & sda5, since sda2 looks like some kind of wrapper for sda5)
[18:12] <bekks> HelloWorld321: No.
[18:13] <bekks> HelloWorld321: sda2 is a container, containing swap, e.g., and it might contain more partitions.
[18:13] <HelloWorld321> Then I prolly won't even need to reinstall grub, since /boot isn't in sda2 or sda5, the partitions getting moved.
[18:13] <teward> aaronr_: oh, try just using `libdvbcsa`
[18:13] <ghs> CD stays in blank same after burning. How to fix it ? I tried with k3b and brasero.
[18:13] <teward> aaronr_: rather than the binary name
[18:13] <aaronr_> oh, omit the -dev?
[18:13] <teward> aaronr_: the source package is called `libdvbcsa`
[18:14] <aaronr_> ah, yes of course.
[18:14] <teward> aaronr_: if you look at the packages.u.c page (http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libdevel/libdvbcsa-dev) you'll see it says "Source package libdvbcsa"
[18:14] <aaronr_> thanks :)
[18:14] <HelloWorld321> So I'ma commit.  Do I reboot next?
[18:14] <teward> aaronr_: if that doesn't work, i can backport the package in a PPA and you can just copy it out to your PPAs or something.
[18:14] <HotSwap> Hey, does anyone know if i can install the modern and legacy nvidia drivers at the same time?  I have an old geforce card i want to use as an extra monitor on a separate x screen
[18:14] <ghs> CD stays in blank same after burning. How to fix it ? I tried with k3b and brasero. Can someone me help ?
[18:15] <HelloWorld321> If I have trouble on reboot, the grub docs say: "sudo grub-install /dev/XXX"   ... where XXX will be sda5 ?
[18:16] <asyoulikeit> hey, is anyone able to help me encrypting the hd before installing xubuntu?
[18:17] <pfifo> HotSwap: no
[18:17] <HotSwap> pfifo, both modules cant be loaded at once eh?
[18:17] <HotSwap> i figured that would be the case
[18:18] <skinkitten> glitsj16, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-print/files/gutenprint-5.2/5.2.10-pre1/
[18:18] <HelloWorld321> I've committed.  I think my next step is reboot from sda1.  If I have any trouble, then I'll get to the bash prompt and type "sudo grub-install /dev/sda5"
[18:18] <pfifo> HotSwap: use HW acceleration for the good one, and use standard vesa driver for the crap one
[18:18] <bekks> HelloWorld321: No.
[18:18] <HotSwap> pfifo, yeah that just hit me after I responded to you.
[18:18] <HotSwap> that'll work great
[18:18] <HotSwap> thanks
[18:18] <bekks> HelloWorld321: Installing grub ito swap makes perfectly no sense.
[18:18] <aaronr_> strangely the trusty build of libdvbcsa compiled okay on launchpad.
[18:19] <aaronr_> not sure how i made that happen
[18:19] <teward> aaronr_: i made a fib btw...
[18:19] <teward> aaronr_: i misread the builds page, since that package hasn't been updated in version number since, like, Quantal, the packagesa re just copied and not rebuilt
[18:19] <HelloWorld321> So I'm likely to have no trouble, since grub is certainly pointing to sda1.  But if I do have trouble, then I'll type "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1"
[18:19] <teward> aaronr_: so it has i386, amd64, etc.
[18:19] <teward> but the "builds" list doesn't state them because it's just copied
[18:19] <SupaYoshi> Anyone knows, I want to serve a different website for when people come to my domain and when you go to the local hostname?
[18:20] <SupaYoshi> I tried doing Virtuelhost: hostname:80
[18:20] <aaronr_> ahh okay
[18:20] <SupaYoshi> but that didnt work well
[18:20] <bekks> HelloWorld321: /boot is on sda1  and grub points to sda.
[18:20] <glitsj16> skinkitten: thanks, let me download that and see if i can get it to build here without errors, i'll keep u posted
[18:20] <aaronr_> yeah i'm probably making this more difficult than it needs to be by trying to backport a package from an unreleased version of ubuntu :)
[18:20] <aaronr_> unfortunately opencaster doesn't exist before trusty it seems
[18:21] <HelloWorld321> bekks: tx.
[18:21] <Electra101> hey
[18:21] <PMtoCoins> facing mailing issues with nginx on Ubuntu server 12.04
[18:21] <PMtoCoins> anyone who can help
[18:22] <TJ-> HelloWorld321: when using "grub-install" you point it to the device to receive the master boot record, not a partition/file-system on that device (unless doing something very unusual)
[18:22] <PMtoCoins> when I am sending mail using php script it delivers in the spam box and shows return path as www@info@mydomain.com
[18:22] <aaronr_> right, requeued the build. thanks for the help teward
[18:22]  * aaronr_ crosses his fingers
[18:23] <HelloWorld321> tx TJ-.  I'm rebooting now.
[18:23] <teward> aaronr_: you're welcome.  note you'll have to backport the dependency in your PPA first, and upload it there before it builds.
[18:23] <aaronr_> yeah i think i've done that
[18:24] <teward> aaronr_: then the newly uploaded dep has to build first, before it can be used by your other depwait-ed package
[18:24] <aaronr_> https://launchpad.net/~aaronr/+archive/opencaster shows libdvbcsa in there now
[18:24] <zatan> hi how can i stop certain packages from being updated?
[18:24] <PMtoCoins> anyone who can help me with linux server running postfix
[18:24] <PMtoCoins> ?
[18:24] <teward> aaronr_: no it doesn't.
[18:24] <teward> aaronr_: https://launchpad.net/~aaronr/+archive/opencaster/+sourcepub/3917649/+listing-archive-extra
[18:25] <teward> aaronr_: i don't think it's started a rebuild on libdvbcsa yet
[18:25] <Tarax> Need help to find my Wifi with Xubuntu, find neighbours nets but not my own
[18:25] <teward> aaronr_: because the build was cancelled
[18:25] <skinkitten> glitsj16, thanks
[18:25] <aaronr_> gah, yeah.
[18:25] <aaronr_> haha
[18:25] <teward> aaronr_: so you're still in square one
[18:25] <aaronr_> okay
[18:25] <aaronr_> i thought that build was very fast!
[18:25] <aaronr_> now i know why
[18:26] <teward> aaronr_: you didn't hit "cancel build" did you?
[18:26] <teward> aaronr_: also, I suggest you prepend my nick to your messages, if you want to direct them to me, otherwise they could get lost in the channel activity on my client
[18:27] <aaronr_> teward: yeah i did, i cancelled the build of the libdvbcsa from trusty becuase of the arm issue
[18:27] <teward> aaronr_: okay, that's the problem then
[18:28] <teward> aaronr_: you should rerun the build or reupload the software (with a slightly higher version number)
[18:28] <aaronr_> teward: what i did wrong was not deleting it and resubmitting the version from quantal (which is high enough to satisfy the build dep)
[18:28] <HelloWorld321> Yup, yup.  That warning scared the spit out of me, but it rebooted just fine with nothing to do about the grub loader.  Tx: bekks, Tj-, Xuisce, jasef, jhutchins, and even ubottu, but especially bekks.  Thanks guys.  Scarey warning, simple operation.
[18:28] <teward> aaronr_: aaah, okay, but you'll have a new issue there, you'll need to up the version number on your upload to the PPA.
[18:28] <teward> aaronr_: just because how the system works.
[18:28] <perlite11> hey how can I force apt-get to install a package? I was configuring nagios and removed the directory /etc/nagios and now I can't remove or install the nagios3 package
[18:28] <aaronr_> ah ok
[18:28] <aaronr_> seems sensible
[18:28] <glitsj16> skinkitten: make went cleanly :) .. suggestion: start afresh by removing the extracted source tree and extract the gutenprint-5.2.10-pre1.tar.bz2 again, cd into it and run: ./configure --disable-test --enable-maintainer-mode --without-doc | pastebinit if you would and show the link
[18:28] <Xuisce> no problem  HelloWorld321
[18:28] <teward> aaronr_: just make it ~ppa2 insteadl
[18:29] <teward> aaronr_: with the rest of the version string being identical to what yo uused before.
[18:29] <aaronr_> k, reuploaded with the suffix incremented
[18:31] <glitsj16> perlite11: the postinstall or preremove scripts probably are looking for that dir, try to make it again, even when empty
[18:32] <perlite11> glitsj16: It's complaining about particular files in that directory missing; I'll try restoring those
[18:32] <smaragd> Hello have anybody of you problem with mint 16 eth0 statistics? wlan tx / rx in ifconfig for wireless works good but not for ethernet.. :/
[18:33] <wheatthin> smaragd, maybe should try mint channel
[18:33] <OerHeks> smaragd, better use ubuntu, as mint is unsupported here
[18:33] <skinkitten> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6944728/ ^^
[18:33] <streulma> hello, I have 2 SSD drives, which one should I place in my PC? OCZ 240GB with 1 reallocated sector (so Ubuntu disk utility says), or 128GB Sandisk which is OK?
[18:33] <glitsj16> perlite11: yup, or remove the nagios3 related files in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[18:34] <smaragd> thanks for point
[18:34] <leemerriman> Many years ago I had an option to install Ubuntu as a Windows program or something similar, is that still a thing?
[18:35] <bekks> leemerriman: No.
[18:35] <wheatthin> leemerriman, you're talking about the wubi installer?
[18:35] <leemerriman> bekks: Is there any way to install Ubuntu (or really any other Debian-based distro) without some sort of CD or USB stick.
[18:35] <leemerriman> wheatthin: That sounds right, yes
[18:35] <glitsj16> skinkitten: looking good, proceed with: make clean && make .. and let it run, can take a while but i've got the rest of the evening so no worries there
[18:36] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/360583/is-there-wubi-for-ubuntu-13-10
[18:37] <OerHeks> leemerriman, there is a WUBI installer, but not for win8
[18:37] <skinkitten> glitsj16, wow thank you so much
[18:38] <perlite11> glitsj16: thanks. that totally worked
[18:38] <skinkitten> glitsj16, how do I repay you?
[18:38] <wheatthin> yeah it's unsupported, but there is a wubi installer
[18:38] <glitsj16> streulma: perlite11, welcome
[18:38] <wheatthin> anybody know how to get opencl working with ati and ubuntu 13.x?
[18:38] <glitsj16> skinkitten: you just did, and i got a few extra beans on the forum by posting :p
[18:39] <glitsj16> streulma: sorry, wanted to say i'd go for the OCZ and then i added to it sorry
[18:40] <HelloWorld321> glitsj16: how does that work?  beans on forum?
[18:41] <stephen__> Hi
[18:41] <skinkitten> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6944763/
[18:41] <stephen__> Does anyone know of pinguyOS?
[18:41] <glitsj16> HelloWorld321: not sure exactly, but i think each time you post to a thread you get a 'bean', apparently you need a minimum of 10 beans to make edits to your profile etc
[18:41] <bekks> stephen__: We heard of it, but we dont support it in here.
[18:42] <stephen__> Ahl I made the switch from Ubuntu to pinguyOS earlier this week. I think you should give it a try
[18:42] <OerHeks> stephen__, sure, they have their own channel http://pinguyos.com/irc-chat/
[18:42] <stephen__> oh ok. Thanks for the help
[18:43] <glitsj16> skinkitten: same error as before, i suspect i've got something installed that you're missing, having a look at that
[18:43] <yidaki> i need a terminal command to kill pulseaudio
[18:43] <user___> pkill -9 pulseaudio
[18:44] <user___> or whatever the process name is, try pulse if that doesn't work
[18:44] <glitsj16> skinkitten: can you run: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit please?
[18:44] <smaragd> Hello have anybody of you problem with mint 16 eth0 statistics? wlan tx / rx in ifconfig for wireless works good but not for ethernet.. :/
[18:44] <daftykins> mint != ubuntu, we cannot support that here
[18:44] <daftykins> you'll need to look elsewhere
[18:45] <OerHeks> !mint | smaragd
[18:45] <smaragd> omg srry wrong forum....
[18:46] <skinkitten> glitsj16, not all of it appears? I only get from man-db ... z
[18:46] <skinkitten> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6944791/
[18:47] <yidaki> user: i type in exactly "pkill -9 pulseaudio" and push enter in terminal?
[18:47] <user___> yidaki: yeah
[18:47] <yidaki> nothinghappens
[18:47] <user___> try pulse then
[18:47] <yidaki> ok
[18:48] <user___> ps aux | grep audio
[18:48] <glitsj16> skinkitten: we'll try it again with: dpkg --get-selections > /tmp/skinkitten-gutenprint && pastebinit /tmp/skinkitten-gutenprint
[18:49] <Medo> Hello
[18:50] <yidaki> still nothing
[18:50] <yidaki> i am getting choppy delayed audio out of vlc player
[18:50] <yidaki> killing pulse audio fixed it in mint
[18:51] <yidaki> any other ideas on how to kill pulse audio?
[18:51] <skinkitten> glitsj16, where's the tmp folder?
[18:52] <skinkitten> TheDrums, what a great name.
[18:52] <lickalott> guys, I'm trying to launch a non-installed windows app (via wine) from within a .desktop file.  I've gotten it to work before but can't seem to get it this time.  Can someone tell me what I might be doing wrong?  http://pastebin.com/MtgYFGnC
[18:52] <glitsj16> skinkitten: under /tmp, so out of your home dir
[18:52] <lickalott> it's a stand alone executable
[18:52] <user___> yiadki: yiadki: if that didn't work, most likely pulseaudio isn't the problem
[18:53] <yidaki> how do i know if i have a compatible sound drier?
[18:53] <yidaki> driver?
[18:53] <glitsj16> skinkitten: you can exchange /tmp with anything you want in your home/<user> dir, it's just an intermediary file you can remove if the pastebin showed full output this time
[18:54] <user___> yidaki: above my head
[18:54] <manornk> clear
[18:54] <manornk> Hey guys, When i try to connect via ssh on my ubuntu, i am not able, however, i am able to connect to other computer via my ubuntu
[18:54] <glitsj16> yidaki: pulseaudio -k should kill it
[18:55] <Medo> Busybox  v1.18.5 (ubuntu.1:1.18.5)
[18:55] <Medo> what cause that error
[18:55] <Medo> ?
[18:55] <lickalott> manornk,  is ssh enabled on your ubuntu machine?
[18:55] <lickalott> medo ???
[18:56] <manornk> lickalott: Yes, I get error  attempting method password failed, but i am able to connect to other computers
[18:56] <Medo> lickalott: what ?
[18:56] <lickalott> what are you using manornk ?  command line ssh, remmina, putty?
[18:56] <lickalott> what error medo?
[18:56] <lickalott> all I see is a version message
[18:56] <manornk> lickalott: command line ssh
[18:57] <lickalott> default port manornk
[18:57] <lickalott> ?
[18:57] <manornk> lickalott: 22
[18:57] <SupaYoshi> Hai
[18:57] <glitsj16> lickalott: there looks to be a line feed between line 6 and 7 in your paste, the Exec=... needs to be all on one line
[18:57] <lickalott> manornk, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-840280.html
[18:58] <SupaYoshi> I want to make apache have 2 websites, 1 for the intranet on port 80, and one on public on port 80
[18:58] <lickalott> it is glitsj16  it just copied to pastebin that way
[18:58] <SupaYoshi> Now i tried doing this with virtualhost, and then the internal IP and the external IP
[18:58] <SupaYoshi> but that doesnt work.
[18:58] <manornk> lickalott: Thank you.
[18:58] <lickalott> lemme know if that works
[18:58] <SupaYoshi> So I am wondering, do I need to add a interface for the external IP?
[18:58] <SupaYoshi> because adding the xternal IP to ports.conf doesnt work
[18:58] <manornk> I have one more question, about Ubuntu touch, i want to port it on my device Geeksphone Peak, how hard is it
[18:58] <SupaYoshi> I basically get the same website as the internal site.
[18:59] <lickalott> SupaYoshi, you need to open the public side on your router/firewall
[18:59] <SupaYoshi> lickalott hehe i done that sorry
[18:59] <SupaYoshi> I get the website on the public address
[18:59]  * lickalott bows out on the ubuntu touch thing
[18:59] <SupaYoshi> I just set a different enabled-site for the external address
[18:59] <glitsj16> lickalott: ow ok, is the wineprefix and the path to virtualdub.exe correct?
[18:59] <SupaYoshi> but still it gets served the same website as interal.
[18:59] <lickalott> true glitsj16
[19:00] <SupaYoshi> i have VirtualHost 77.165.xxx.xx:80 for external.
[19:00] <lickalott> SupaYoshi, same folder just accessed differently or do you have to folder with the same sites (i.e. two different paths)
[19:00] <SupaYoshi> And VirtualHost 10.15.1.100:80 for external;.
[19:00] <lickalott> sorry, that was a question
[19:00] <SupaYoshi> Lickallot
[19:00] <lickalott> sir
[19:00] <SupaYoshi> Another folder, and another path :)
[19:01] <SupaYoshi> first site, /var/www/homesrv second (external /var/www/public
[19:01] <SupaYoshi> Now however, when you go to the public site you get /var/www/homesrv
[19:01] <lickalott> and that's all pointed to correctly in the .conf?
[19:01] <SupaYoshi> Which conf? :P
[19:01] <lickalott> apache (i forget which one specifically)
[19:01] <SupaYoshi> ports.conf?
[19:01] <lickalott> brb
[19:02] <SupaYoshi> I tried this but it didnt work
[19:02] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6944893/
[19:03] <SupaYoshi> that gives an error, that it cant bind because the port is in use already :3
[19:03] <glitsj16> lickalott: only other thing i see is that you used .. StartupWMClass=VirutalDub.exe .. mind the spelling of VirutalDub.exe, also you don't need the .exe part in that StartupWMClass
[19:05] <Medo> can someone help me with that error ?
[19:06] <manornk> Can anyone help me with porting ubuntu touch?
[19:07] <bekks> manornk: Porting it to what/where?
[19:07] <daftykins> !touch | manornk
[19:08] <manornk> bekks: On Geeksphone Peak. ubottu, thank you.
[19:08] <OerHeks> Medo, what error? you only gave "Busybox  v1.18.5 (ubuntu.1:1.18.5)"
[19:09] <Medo> OerHeks: yes followed with built in shell and initramfs
[19:10] <Medo> OerHeks:
[19:10] <Medo> OerHeks: and another error message with an older ubuntu version
[19:10] <OerHeks> Medo, use paste.ubuntu.com for the complete error and let us see
[19:11] <Medo> OerHeks: that error appear when i try to login using my usb to live ubuntu
[19:11] <skinkitten> glitsj16, http://bpaste.net/show/eMPsMOf0riZfuJBhlULK/
[19:12] <Medo> OerHeks: not my installed system and current now im using windows X(
[19:12] <wernerHerzog> hi guys, a friend of mine wants to replace windwos xp with linux; he wants to use wubi; what is new with wubi, is it even on the ubuntu iso anymore?
[19:13] <Daekdroom> wernerHerzog, If he wants to replace XP (i.e. erase it), he definitely shouldn`t use Wubi
[19:13] <wernerHerzog> Daekdroom, that's what I'm telling him, but he is scared :D
[19:14] <wernerHerzog> first time intalling ubuntu for him
[19:14] <wernerHerzog> I just want to make it easy form him
[19:14] <bekks> wernerHerzog: Winn XP will be EOL in a few months, and Wubi is unsupported, and will not work on Win8.
[19:14] <yidaki> how do i uninstall programs i dont want?
[19:14] <wernerHerzog> oh shit
[19:14] <bekks> wernerHerzog: If you want to make it easy, install him a virtual machine.
[19:15] <Medo> OerHeks: ???
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> yidaki  sudo apt-get purge [package], or use the software center, or synaptic
[19:15] <wernerHerzog> he wants to dual boot xp and ubuntu for the two month xp is supported
[19:15] <bekks> wernerHerzog: Then set it up as he wants it.
[19:15] <yidaki> where do i find synaptic?
[19:15] <bekks> yidaki: You have to install it.
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> yidaki  in the software center
[19:16] <wernerHerzog> bekks: yeah, I guess I'll have to do it, he wanted to do it himself though
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[19:16] <wernerHerzog> which is a good thing, he'll learn more
[19:16] <bekks> OsBinAs: Only after he installs it, since it isnt installed by default.
 so in home folder somewhere
 :)
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> OsBinAs  type yi [tab], see what happens
[19:18] <bekks> OsBinAs: Nope, not in the home folder.
[19:18] <Medo> ??
 lad nothing hapends :D
[19:19] <jhutchins> wernerHerzog: Dual booting is different from wubi.
[19:20] <jhutchins> wernerHerzog: Linux installers have been setting up dual-boot systems for more than a decade.
[19:20] <jhutchins> ...more than two I think.
[19:21] <jhutchins> wernerHerzog: wubi installed to the Windows filesystem, which was not really a good way to do Linux.  Cygwin is better if you need linux-on-windows.
[19:21] <glitsj16> skinkitten: connection dropped here, so i missed your paste if you posted that .. can you provide the link again please?
[19:22] <skinkitten> glitsj16, sure, http://bpaste.net/show/eMPsMOf0riZfuJBhlULK/
[19:22] <OsBinAs> got problems with metaspolit framework any on good to give a hand?
[19:26] <apb1963> jhutchins: I put 8 distributions on 1 hard drive once
[19:26] <apb1963> ocio-boot
[19:26] <apb1963> octo-boot
[19:27] <apb1963> using lilo
[19:30] <skinkitten> glitsj16, ?
[19:36] <TJ-> skinkitten: what are you (trying) to build, and on what ubuntu release?
[19:37] <glitsj16> skinkitten: took a bit long, can you: sudo apt-get install libcupsmime1-dev libcupsppdc1-dev and start the build again with: make clean && make?
[19:37] <skinkitten> canon pixma mg2520 driver from gutenprint pre-5.2.10 TJ-
[19:38] <TJ-> Ahhh, the build log looked sort-of familiar
[19:38] <_1_yerson> hola
[19:38] <glitsj16> TJ-: i was just diffing skinkitten's package list to determine what he might be missing, builds fine here but i'm not on 12.04
[19:38] <_1_yerson> alguien habla espanol
[19:39] <_1_yerson> quien habla espanish
[19:39] <manornk> Can't connect on my ubuntu with ssh, but i can from my ubuntu onto other computer. It says that password is incorect
[19:40] <TJ-> glitsj16: I thought it might be a missing headers issue, looks like you've got it covered :)
[19:41] <glitsj16> TJ-: not sure :) first time i build gutenprint from CVS, so feel free to drop in
[19:41] <dougl> my 13.10 install hangs looking for some efi crap on a drive that has since been removed can someone help me? I am checking fstab for efi stuff
[19:41] <bekks> manornk: are you trying to ssh in as root?
[19:41] <TJ-> glitsj16: do you have a 12.04 chroot?
[19:42] <manornk> bekks: I am trying from my Android. I can connect on my brothers computer, but on mine cant.. p.s. My brother is using arch linux
[19:42] <glitsj16> TJ-: nope, i was looking into that
[19:42] <bekks> manornk: That doesnt answer my question.
[19:43] <glitsj16> TJ-: but i'm kinda low on disk space here .. any idea how much space that would take?
[19:43] <manornk> bekks: PermitRootLogin yes
[19:43] <bekks> !root | manornk
[19:43] <bekks> manornk: Log in as user, not as root.
[19:44] <manornk> bekks: My mistake, I am trying to connect as user, manornk.. sorry
[19:44] <RonniS> Hey, where can I find information about when php will be updated on 12.04 LTS?
[19:44] <glitsj16> skinkitten: sorry for the confusion while talking to TJ-, do keep us informed on where you're at ok :)
[19:44] <TJ-> glitsj16: probably about 200MB for a buildd
[19:44] <RonniS> it is dangerously close to end of life
[19:45] <glitsj16> TJ-: ow i should manage that, thanks
[19:45] <TJ-> glitsj16: I've got one here ... what's the CVS repo source reference (web page) so I can compare that version with what's in our repos
[19:45] <skinkitten> glitsj16, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6945137/
[19:46] <manornk> bekks: My mistake, I am trying to connect as user, manornk@ip
[19:46] <glitsj16> TJ-: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-print/files/gutenprint-5.2/5.2.10-pre1/ .. the .tar.bz2
[19:47] <bekks> manornk: If you are trying to connect as your user, and you get the message that your password is incorect - then it is incorrect.
[19:48] <manornk> bekks: I know it isn't, i am using it every day.
[19:49] <glitsj16> skinkitten: TJ- .. we're always erroring on the same backend_common.c:633:3 as skinkitten's paste shows, not sure where that resides
[19:51] <TJ-> glitsj16: yeah, I think it is relying on a MACRO that is missing
[19:52] <manornk> beeks, any suggestions?
[19:52] <manornk> bekks, any suggestions
[19:52] <TJ-> glitsj16: skinkitten I'm looking at overlaying the trusty debian packaging to that gutenprint source, so we can build it using the standard Debian/Ubuntu packaging toolset
[19:53] <glitsj16> TJ-: makes sense, skinkitten has been trying to get the canon printer going for days now, and missing MACRO isn't something i'm good with, really appreciate your input
[19:53] <jhutchins> manornk: ssh is rather limited in it's error messages on purpose.
[19:53] <jhutchins> manornk: Do you have an AllowGroups statement?
[19:53] <skinkitten> ^^ thanks TJ- glitsj16
[19:53] <jhutchins> mantovani: What does /var/log/auth.log say?
[19:54] <glitsj16> skinkitten: i'l keep following the thread, but TJ-'s much more experienced with this :)
[19:54] <jhutchins> Sheesh.  Sorry mantovani
[19:55] <skinkitten> with the deepest of gratitude, thanks glitsj16
[19:55] <TJ-> skinkitten: Give me 10 minutes to get myself up to speed, then I'll be back with you
[19:55] <skinkitten> thanks TJ- :)
[19:55] <RonniS> Hey, where can I find information about when php version will be updated on 12.04 LTS?
[19:56] <glitsj16> skinkitten: if we get it working we'll make a new forum post, there were other people wanting the same pixma mg2520 to work .. we'll let TJ- do his magic and cross fingers heh
[19:58] <XHEART24> hi everyone.
[19:58] <XHEART24> is there an antivirus for ubuntu 12.04 lts? i find my computer running too slow while surfing the web
[19:58] <cvtsx> clam av as one i think
[19:59] <cvtsx> but its all command line
[19:59] <Ben64> XHEART24: antivirus isn't necessary on linux, and it wouldn't help your web browsing speed
[19:59] <bekks> !clamav | XHEART24
[19:59] <bekks> !antivirus | XHEART24
[20:00] <XHEART24> ok great.
[20:00] <joshu> does the lived load into RAM, so I can safely eject the CD and attach a different one?
[20:00] <XHEART24> other than that i like this ubuntu.
[20:00] <cvtsx> ubuntu is nice
[20:00] <humbag> XHEART24: i think noscript plugin speeds up browsing, but you have to train it
[20:01] <XHEART24> train it?
[20:01] <XHEART24> sorry for the question. just do not know, still learning
[20:02] <AKILES> it's ok XHEAR...
[20:02] <AKILES> XHEART24,
[20:02] <XHEART24> yes
[20:03] <AKILES> really almost(all) virus, are make for windows
[20:04] <XHEART24> humbag - how i train the noscript?
[20:04] <glitsj16> lickalott: did you get the desktop file working? just noticed that you could have made a typo in the Exec line --> /home/weed/Downloads/APPZ/Nandub_1.10.4/VirutalDub.exe .. which should be ../VirtualDub.exe
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> AKILES  linux virusses hzve been made too, but they have no effect
[20:04] <teward> AKILES: only partly true, a super large majority target windows, more are targetting macs, and Linux is in its little niche where there's very few viruses.  It's not virus proof though.
[20:05] <XHEART24> akiles, that is good no know.
[20:06] <humbag> XHEART24: it operates as a whitelist, so you have to allow useful javascripts as you browse, but suspicious or slow javascripts will not be run
[20:06] <XHEART24> hmmm ok
[20:07] <AKILES> yes it is, I say again "almost"
[20:07] <AKILES> :D
[20:08] <AKILES> thks for your attention!
[20:08] <gupta_dishant> i am new to ubuntu
[20:09] <gupta_dishant> any help will be appreciated
[20:09] <gupta_dishant> :)
[20:09] <AKILES> about what ?
[20:09] <gupta_dishant> i am looking forward to do android app development and c++ programming
[20:10] <ice9> how to change file's UID?
[20:10] <felipesierra> HI everybody
[20:10] <felipesierra> I am new in ubuntu, i have a problem
[20:10] <gupta_dishant> basically i am using ubuntu for  almost first time
[20:10] <gupta_dishant> so can you help me with a link to some guide or
[20:10] <gupta_dishant> features
[20:11] <gupta_dishant> or stuff
[20:11] <gupta_dishant> to browse through
[20:11] <felipesierra> the sistem does not reconigze my usb
[20:12] <OerHeks> !manual
[20:13] <dishant> thanks :)
[20:13] <OerHeks> gupta_dishant, else there are lots of wiki pages, and free fullcirclemagazine
[20:13] <dishant> i am fine with the GUI part..need to get into terminal commands :)
[20:14] <dishant> will go to wiki pages if needed..thanks anyways :)
[20:15] <Samopotamus> Ubuntu needs to clean up their goddamn documentation regarding Samba.  I just spent about fifteen minutes following a guide, only to find a note at the bottom: "Note: This method no longer works"
[20:16] <felipesierra> my friends, my system does not reconigze my usb media...can you help me please?
[20:16] <bekks> Samopotamus: It is a wiki, you may update it too.
[20:16] <streulma> good evening
[20:16] <streulma> for an SSD, should I use 8GB swap ?
[20:17] <Samopotamus> bekks, would that I had the know-how.
[20:17] <glitsj16> gupta_dishant: : you can also install the abs-guide package, which offers an introduction to bash shell scripting
[20:17] <bekks> streulma: Use as much swap as your RAM, for being able to suspend to disk.
[20:17] <Ben64> streulma: how much ram do you have
[20:17] <skinkitten> glitsj16, :)
[20:17] <streulma> Ben64: 8
[20:17] <Samopotamus> I'm just trying to mount a CIFS drive.  I don't understand why this is so hard to find reliable documentation for.
[20:17] <Samopotamus> This is a routine task.
[20:18] <Ben64> streulma: if you don't need a hibernate, then you don't really even need a swap partition, and i'd recommend against having one on an ssd anyway
[20:18] <glitsj16> skinkitten: also into shell scripting? the guide's a nice introduction if you haven't seen it yet
[20:18] <streulma> Samopotamus: Ctrl+L in Nautilus, smb://user@host/share
[20:18] <DavyH> Hi.  Following problem under Unity/Compiz on 13.10: Ctrl-Q isn't received by my X clients.  xev trace shows Control_L being pressed and released, but when I hit 'q' in between, I get focus-related events instead.  Probably something I did, but I don't know what.
[20:19] <DavyH> Things I've tried: bind Ctrl-Q in Keyboard->Settings to clear other bindings, then unbind it again.  That didn't change anything.
[20:19] <Samopotamus> I'm using the command line
[20:19] <DavyH> Haven't found anything on Google -- search-term suggestions welcome.
[20:19] <DavyH> (or rather: sufficiently non-generic search terms :))
[20:19] <streulma> Samopotamus: sudo mount -t cifs -o user=foobar,password=foobar,rw,hard,nosetuids,noperm,sec=ntlm //192.168.1.2/Drive ~/mnt/mount_point
[20:20] <Samopotamus> doing sudo mount -t cifs -o username=[user], password=[pass] //remote/path /home/me/local/path doesn't allow write access
[20:20] <skinkitten> glitsj16, I'm interested :)
[20:20] <streulma> like this
[20:20] <Samopotamus> I'll try yours streulma
[20:21] <Ben64> Samopotamus: you might want to set your uid in the mounting options
[20:21] <Samopotamus> I have tried that Ben64
[20:21] <koell> omg jono bacon is using a thinkpad <3
[20:21] <DavyH> So if anyone can tell me how to find out where keypresses are intercepted in Compiz, that'd help me a lot.
[20:21] <streulma> Ben64: what do you recommend? having swap or not to swap? I don't need hibernate
[20:21] <Samopotamus> I've tried so many iterations of sudo mount -t- cifs...
[20:22] <glitsj16> skinkitten: cool, installing the abs-guide together with experimenting and the #bash channel should make a good start :)
[20:22] <Ben64> streulma: you probably won't need one under normal circumstances
[20:23] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: gutenprint 5.2.10 has introduced a new common backend code which requires libusb and some 'interesting' integration with cups. All existing Ubuntu Ubuntu printer-driver-gutenprint packages do not contain libusb support. The build error is because the headers from "libusb-1.0-0-dev" package aren't installed. I'm not sure if installing that will be enough, but give it a try. I'm investigating what is needed to package 5.2.10 to include libusb,
[20:23] <TJ-> based on the 14.04 packaging, and then backported to 12.04!
[20:23] <streulma> Ben64: ok, if I need one, I can make this with /dev/zero and /swapfile
[20:23] <DavyH> Samopotamus: does this help?  //server/Software       /server/rw/Software     cifs    rw,uid=username,iocharset=utf8,credentials=/root/server.creds,noauto    0 0
[20:23] <Samopotamus> streulma, it looks like you have given me in thirty seconds what DAYS of Googling have not
[20:23] <Ben64> streulma: yep
[20:23] <DavyH> (line from my fstab)
[20:24] <Samopotamus> I'm going to dissect your line of code and figure out the difference between what several messageboard posts and wikis have told me and yours.
[20:24] <Samopotamus> Davy, I'll try that in my fstab
[20:24] <Samopotamus> DavyH, I've also been running into an issue where the VPN is possibly not up yet so fstab doesn't mount it until I run mount -a
[20:25] <glitsj16> TJ-: wonderfull! odd that it didn't complain here about it.. i don't even have libusb-1.0-0-dev installed
[20:25] <Samopotamus> I don't understand why so many guides from stackexchange and ubuntu forums are so error-ridden
[20:25] <bekks> Samopotamus: Then you caant automatically mount, but you have to ensure the vpn is up.
[20:25] <skinkitten> TJ-, :( libusb-1.0-0-dev is already the newest version.
[20:25] <skinkitten> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:26] <Samopotamus> Isn't there an option for fstab to wait until the network is up?
[20:26] <MrZone> Hello
[20:26] <bekks> Samopotamus: The network is not enough. The VPN will start after the network is up, and you have to wait until the VPN is up.
[20:27] <TJ-> skinkitten: That tells us that "./configure" didn't locate those headers and therefore didn't add the correct "-I..." include path
[20:27] <TJ-> skinkitten: I'm almost ready to do a test-build here
[20:27] <Samopotamus> So basically it has to be done through cronjobs or some other method than fstab, right bekks?
[20:27] <bekks> Samopotamus: Cronjobs wont help you at all at that point.
[20:27] <Samopotamus> What do you recommend bekks ?
[20:27] <bekks> Samopotamus: The most convinient method is to run "mount -a" manually.
[20:28] <MrZone> Annyone know if there is a Ubuntu Touch for Xperia Z1?
[20:28] <Samopotamus> :\
[20:28] <DavyH> Samopotamus: non-authoritative answer: Init scripts typically mount local filesystem types (ext4, btrfs, ...) early in the boot, and network filesystems (cifs, nfs, ...) later.  There's a sigil you can use for network-dependent filesystems (e.g. ext4 on iSCSI).  But that won't help you here.
[20:28] <Samopotamus> I don't believe in doing things manually.  There has to be a way
[20:28] <bekks> Samopotamus: Then good luck in finding it.
[20:28] <Samopotamus> There's got to be a way to tell crontab to run this command like ten minutes after startup or something.  It's a 99% solution
[20:29] <ViaJulia30VERS> alguien habla español?
[20:29] <ioanbuby> hi,i have written a python script and i want to give this script to my friends but they are using windows
[20:29] <bekks> Samopotamus: Crontab is a 1% solution. Crontab does not check wether the network is up, it osnt even interested wether the VPN is actually running, etc.
[20:29] <skinkitten> TJ-, hm how do I tell ./configure to include it?
[20:29] <ioanbuby> how can i make a executable from this script?
[20:29] <Samopotamus> Yeah, bekks , but it would just give time and assume that the VPN is up.
[20:29] <bekks> ioanbuby: You cant, basically.
[20:29] <skinkitten> glitsj16, abs-guide? where can I get that?
[20:30] <bekks> Samopotamus: Which is the most unreliable approach possible.
[20:30] <Samopotamus> Better than the "no approach" approach
[20:30] <ioanbuby> why not?
[20:30] <bekks> Samopotamus: You have been given a 100% approach.
[20:30] <Seveas> ioanbuby: google for pyfreeze or cx-freeze
[20:30] <Samopotamus> lol, manually?  I can run that anyway if it fails
[20:30] <glitsj16> skinkitten: it's a package that is in the regumar ubuntu repos, sudo apt-get install abs-guide
[20:30] <ioanbuby> ok
[20:30] <glitsj16> *regular
[20:31] <Seveas> ioanbuby: but that's so far off-topic in here, it's not even funny :)
[20:31] <bekks> ioanbuby: Because you cannot make a crossplatform python binary out of some code you have.
[20:31] <bekks> Samopotamus: You will have to run it manually, cause your approach will fail. Anyways, good luck.
[20:31] <ioanbuby> ok i understand
[20:32] <Samopotamus> Thanks bekks
[20:32] <glitsj16> skinkitten: if you have it installed, point your browser at file:///usr/share/doc/abs-guide/html/index.html and you're good to dive in
[20:32] <skinkitten> E: Unable to locate package abs-guide
[20:32] <ioanbuby> my friends must have python installed and run this script from command line
[20:32] <ioanbuby> in windows
[20:32] <bekks> ioanbuby: Yes.
[20:32] <ioanbuby> i don't use windows anymore
[20:33] <Seveas> Samopotamus: if you want to run things after the network is up, add scripts to /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d
[20:33] <ioanbuby> ;)
[20:33] <DavyH> Samopotamus: there HAS to be a hook that allows you to run arbitrary commands dependent on your VPN.  Like the 'post-up' directive in /etc/network/interfaces.
[20:33] <Seveas> Samopotamus: this is woefully underdocumented though :)
[20:33] <DavyH> Seveas++
[20:33] <Samopotamus> Thanks Seveas and DavyH
[20:33] <TJ-> skinkitten: are you using amd64 or i686/i386?
[20:33] <bekks> DavyH: No there is no requirement to implement such a hook. It strongly depends on the VPN.
[20:34] <Seveas> Samopotamus: of course that assumes you run the vpn via networkmanager.
[20:34] <Ampelbein> skinkitten: You have to have the "multiverse" repository enabled.
[20:34] <DavyH> bekks: agreed, there's no standard, but I'd expect it of any reasonable implementation.
[20:34] <glitsj16> skinkitten: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/abs-guide .. so it should be installable in 12.04 .. what does apt-cache policy abs-guide do?
[20:34] <Samopotamus> Seveas, I am embarassingly new to VPNs.  I just followed the guide for installing OpenVPN.
[20:34] <bekks> DavyH: Even if it exists, the vpn administrator most likely disabled hooks for clients for safety reasons.
[20:34] <Samopotamus> The server is mounting a drive from a client
[20:35]  * Samopotamus is the VPN administrator
[20:35] <Seveas> Samopotamus: ah, ok, that's slightly different
[20:35] <Seveas> you want the server to mount an nfs share from the client after it connected?
[20:35] <DavyH> Anyway.  Last appeal for help with my problem? -- Ctrl-Q not being passed to my X clients under Unity/Compiz?
[20:36] <skinkitten> TJ-, x86_64
[20:36] <Samopotamus> It's SMB/CIFS not NFS because the drive is physically mounted to a DD-WRT device.
[20:36] <Seveas> DavyH: search for that keycombo with ccsm to see if it's assigned to something?
[20:36] <TJ-> skinkitten: thanks, I'll build that
[20:36] <Samopotamus> DD-WRT doesn't have out-of-the-box NFS
[20:36] <Seveas> Samopotamus: but the server is mounting from the client after the client connects, right?
[20:36] <Samopotamus> Yes
[20:36] <DavyH> Seveas: I thought ccsm was deprecated?  But I have no better ideas.  Trying now...
[20:37] <Rarrikins> Does anyone know how to add tracks to a playlist in Rhythmbox?
[20:39] <Ampelbein> skinkitten: Follow http://askubuntu.com/questions/89096/how-do-i-enable-the-multiverse-repository and you will most likely be able to install abs-guide. Multiverse isn't enabled by default.
[20:39] <Seveas> Samopotamus: hmm, you can do something with openvpn's --up, but I'd probably abuse fail2ban for this
[20:39] <skinkitten> thanks Ampelbein
[20:39] <impossible> i am on ubuntu 12.04.4 but my mouse only moves up and down, it works fine in 13.10 and 14.04
[20:39] <Seveas> fail2ban is in essence a "watch log and do things" daemon, I'd make it watch the openvpn log and mount things when the client connects
[20:39] <impossible> anything i should update? kernel or driver?
[20:40] <Seveas> Samopotamus: scratch that
[20:40] <Samopotamus> hmm, I know only a little about fail2ban
[20:40] <Samopotamus> k
[20:41] <Seveas> Samopotamus: openvpn's server mode has a --client-connect option, which you can use
[20:41] <DavyH> Seveas: no luck so far with ccsm.  But when I try to bind arbitrary keys (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-f), ccsm shows the key as <Primary>, e.g. <Primary><Alt>f.  NO idea what that means.  Researching, but suggestions welcome!
[20:41] <Samopotamus> Ok, I'll check it out.
[20:41] <Seveas> DavyH: ah! your ctrl key got remapped
[20:41] <Seveas> DavyH: check the keyboard settings, it can be done there
[20:41] <Seveas> DavyH: or else gnome-tweak-tool
[20:42] <kristenbb> My ubuntu computer doesn't start anymore, the screen remains purple, I don't know what's wrong. Can someone please help ?
[20:43] <streulma> kristenbb: that seems like a graphical problem
[20:43] <DavyH> Seveas: I'm uncertain.  `xev` shows the key returning the keysym Control_L, and `xmodmap` shows Control_L as the Control modifier.  But I'm checking as you say.  (And VERY grateful!)
[20:43] <Beldar> So I installed grml-rescueboot this is iso booting with grub 2 yourun this command to load a grml folder in boot,  sudo mv ~/ISO/some release.iso /boot/grml/ MY question how do I clean that grml folder in boot with the cli
[20:44] <kristenbb> streulma: what can I do to solve it?
[20:45] <Seveas> kristenbb: kristenbb do you see the ubuntu logo at all during boot, or is the screen just purple? What happens if you hit <alt><f1>?
[20:45] <DavyH> Seveas: also all other Control-[x] keys work normally, and 'q' does too.
[20:45] <skinux> What command will tell used/free RAM (Physical)?
[20:46] <TJ-> Samopotamus: I'd add the script "/etc/network/if-up.d/openvpn-localmounts" (which should be called by runparts after "/etc/network/if-up.d/openvpn", and in your script simply do  "[ -n "$IF_OPENVPN" ] && sleep 10 && mount -a"
[20:46] <streulma> skinux: free -m
[20:46] <kristenbb> Seveas: It happened multiple times, and it was hanging, so I tried pressing reset a couple times. Now it doesn't show the logo anymore. Nothing happens with alt f1
[20:46] <streulma> kristenbb: ctrl + alt + f1
[20:46] <kristenbb> streulma: nothing either
[20:47] <streulma> kristenbb: do you have installed now a new video driver like nvidia ?
[20:47] <kristenbb> streulma: no I have not, but it could have been updated, I don't know
[20:47] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone know the name of the tool (I think it's CLI only) that was developed specifically for keeping daily ISOs for *buntu up-to-date ?
[20:47] <skinux> Cached doesn't necessarily mean used, right?
[20:48] <Paddy_NI> I'm fairly certain that it is not zsync
[20:48] <manornk> How can i start song from another computer on my computer via ssh
[20:48] <bekks> skinux: ram used for cached is considered to be usable by an application when the application needs it.
[20:48] <Seveas> kristenbb: and <alt><f7> (try <f1> through <f8>, one of them should show some text)
[20:48] <skinux> I see 117 free, 517 Cached, 14 Buffers
[20:49] <bekks> skinux: You see more when running "free -m". Pastebin it please.
[20:49] <kristenbb> Seveas: I tried all from f1 to f12, none do, the screen remains purple
[20:49] <Seveas> manornk: ssh other.computer.name mplayer /path/to/file
[20:49] <streulma> skinux: look at - + buffers cache
[20:49] <skinux> Used: 3172 Free: 650
[20:50] <bekks> skinux: So you have 650 free.
[20:50] <skinux> MB?
[20:50] <Seveas> kristenbb: unfortunately that leaves very few avenues for troubleshooting. Best suggestion I can give you is to boot from a live cd, backup your /home folder and reinstall.
[20:50] <bekks> skinux: Yes.
[20:50] <skinux> That's not much out of 2-3G
[20:50] <bekks> skinux: Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Be happy much of your RAM is used as cache.
[20:51] <kristenbb> Seveas: I can reset and start in recovery mode ? that's the only thing I can do, basically, but i don't know what to do with it
[20:51] <Aleksei__> skinux: Are you sure that you are watching the -/+ buffers/cache line?
[20:51] <skinux> Yes, that was the last set of numbers I gave.
[20:51] <bekks> skinux: And can you please pastebin "free -m", still?
[20:51] <skinkitten> Ampelbein, sudo apt-get update says to run sudo apt-get update....http://paste.ubuntu.com/6945461/
[20:51] <manornk> Seveas: no, no.. I want it to open on the computer that I am holding, to use data on computer via ssh
[20:51] <bekks> skinux: Please pastebin it, since free -m gives 11 numbers, not 5 as you pasted.
[20:52] <Seveas> manornk: ah, mount the remote computer via sshfs then :)
[20:53] <manornk> Seveas: Thanks
[20:53] <manornk> :D
[20:53] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: progress update... building for precise x86_64 in a buildd... its not completed yet
[20:53] <Seveas> I had that for a long time until I bought a nas that supprted NFS properly :)
[20:56] <skinkitten> go TJ- !
[20:57] <filosofixit> I have a bind9 caching nameserver installed, but now it just stopped working. When I "dig google.com" I get this message : ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 43182
[20:57] <streulma> so  easy, save packages in synaptic for use on another PC, system got installed in few minutes
[20:57] <kristenbb> so what Can I do to troubleshoot my computer that is not booting ?
[20:58] <Seveas> filosofixit: check the bind logs, if it returns SERVFAIL, it'll have logged what failed
[20:58] <hewhomust> kristenbb what exactly did you do?
[20:58] <filosofixit> Seveas : will do... :)
[20:59] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: unplug it and hold down the power for 30-60 seconds
[20:59] <kristenbb> hewhomust: not much, I rebooted the computer, as I do many times, but this one time it didn't start, so I tried to hit the reset button  a couple times, and since it still stay hung, I came here for help
[21:00] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: what's that supposed to do ?
[21:00] <botsis> hello
[21:00] <irssi-mike> remove any battery except of course the cmos battery which this should reset
[21:00] <hewhomust> hi botsis
[21:00] <botsis> i want to transfer a file from an ubuntu laptop to a debian desktop, and i'd like to do it via an ehternet cable... how should i connect both computers ?
[21:01] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: As you can boot in rescue mode, install pastebinit via sudo apt-get install pastebinit and run pastebinit < /var/log/Xorg.0.log, then paste its output here.
[21:01] <glitsj16> TJ-: was on the phone .. the support you provide is just amazing and generous :)
[21:01] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: i doubt this is a battery problem, the computer does start, it's just ubuntu that doesn't start.
[21:01] <hewhomust> botsis can you ping the debian desktop?
[21:01] <filosofixit> Seveas : Lots of errormessages like this : error (no valid KEY) resolving './DNSKEY/IN': 192.228.79.201#53
[21:01] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: oh, purple screen, you need to blackout nouveau
[21:01] <botsis> dont know, i am a networking noob
[21:02] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: come again?
[21:02] <mogey> anywhere i can download wins 7 for free
[21:02] <hewhomust> go into the debian and type ifconfig in the terminal
[21:02] <hewhomust> mogey nowhere
[21:02] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: in grub, hit e
[21:02] <mogey> i remember there use to be a site like piratebay
[21:03] <hewhomust> mogey why are you here
[21:03] <mogey> cause i cant get my games to work on linux
[21:03] <mini_iso> i am installing 12.04 using the latest (2014) mini.iso. The PC has less than 512MB RAM. Shall i install Lubuntu Minimal install or Ubuntu LXDE Desktop? Which is one is lighter?
[21:03] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: okay, done, what then?
[21:03] <hewhomust> lubuntu should work nicer better integration
[21:04] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: slight delay; managed to issue the command the recreates the build environment, instead of the command to build the source inside it... snakes and ladders :)
[21:04] <mini_iso> hewhomust, what is the difference between the 2 aforementioned choices?
[21:05] <skinkitten> TJ-, snakes & ladders :)
[21:05] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: I hit 'e'.
[21:05] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: add this nouveau.modeset=0
[21:05] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: where? anywhere?
[21:05] <skinux> Here is free -m: http://pastebin.com/n9zGYfmk
[21:05] <TJ-> skinkitten: Time for a strong coffee methinks!
[21:05] <hewhomust> mini_iso: lxde on ubuntu you just install the lxde desktop environment on the top of ubuntu while still having unity, the other you just get lxde with ubuntu packages
[21:05] <skinkitten> TJ-, ^^
[21:06] <glitsj16> TJ-: :p strong as in an irish one, great idea
[21:06] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: before the word splash
[21:06] <TJ-> glitsj16: Hmmm, I'm not building the kernel too :p
[21:06] <Aleksei__> skinux: you have 2090 MB of used RAM, 1732 free.
[21:07] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: you mean in the /boot/vmlinuz line ?
[21:07] <streulma> irssi-mike before the words quiet splash // kristenbb
[21:07] <skinux> I do now. The set of two numbers I gave you before were before my computer froze and I had to restart
[21:07] <streulma> kristenbb: /etc/default/grub
[21:07] <hewhomust> mogey found your free windows 7 yet lol
[21:07] <kristenbb> streulma: what? i'm a bit lost
[21:07] <streulma> kristenbb: after placing and saving the file, do sudo update-grub
[21:07] <gastrula> hello everyone, I'd used an audio converter a while ago. it was very handy and well-functioning. I however forgot its name as I didnt install it again on my new distro. it was the one I found after leaving sound converter, which for some reason didnt work anymore. can you help me know the name of the audio converter again?
[21:07] <mogey> LOL! nop
[21:08] <streulma> kristenbb: you must edit /etc/default/grub
[21:08] <kristenbb> streulma: I have no idea what you're talking about, so far I hit 'e' in the grub menu, I have no prompt where I can edit the file you're talking about
[21:08] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: blah blah blackout quiet splash, i think he means to set it permanently but first you must get in
[21:08] <Aleksei__> streulma: what you said is how to make it permanent (though there is a better way). It's a different story.
[21:08] <gastrula> ..it was somehow like audio-video download-convert combined.
[21:09] <glitsj16> skinkitten: that paste suggests double entrees for http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse, you can use # in front of one to comment it out or simply remove one of them in your /etc/apt/sources.list .. after that you should be able to install abs-guide
[21:09] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: I don't see the word blackout. There is indeed a line mentioning quiet splash though
[21:09] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: do you want me to reproduce this line here?
[21:09] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: okay
[21:09] <Aleksei__> skinux: use top to check what processes consume most of RAM.
[21:10] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-33-generic root=UUIDDD=878839...789 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff
[21:10] <skinkitten> thanks glitsj16 :)
[21:11] <streulma> kristenbb: before quiet splash like I said // irssi-mike
[21:11] <Paddy_NI> Ah I got it, it was zsync. I had confused it with testdrive :-)
[21:12] <kristenbb> streulma: so it becomes linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-33-generic root=UUIDDD=878839...789 ro nouveau.modeset=0 quiet splash $vt_handoff ?
[21:12] <streulma> kristenbb: yes
[21:13] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: do you confirm?
[21:13] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: okay do you have nvidia or radon or any kind of graphics on board
[21:13] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: yes I do have nvidia
[21:13] <gastrula> I think I found it
[21:13] <glitsj16> gastrula: winff perhaps? if you didn't install it thru a PPA you could try a search in the software center if you haven't already
[21:13] <gastrula> glitsj16, exactly!
[21:13] <gastrula> I just found it at askubuntu
[21:14] <glitsj16> :)
[21:14] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: do you confirm I am supposed to add 'nouveau.modeset=0' between 'ro' and 'quiet splash' ?
[21:14] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: if you do then put nouveau.modeset=0 before the words quiet splash at grub after striking e
[21:14] <gastrula> glitsj16, it is really the handiest I had so far
[21:14] <irssi-mike> it's not a permanent thing, you wont make any mistake
[21:14] <irssi-mike> just something to try
[21:14] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: ok, then what?
[21:15] <glitsj16> gastrula: indeed a very nice tool
[21:15] <irssi-mike> hit enter
[21:15] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: enter just adds a newline
[21:15] <Aleksei__> irssi-mike: you mean Ctrl-X?
[21:15] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: am I to hit ctrl X?
[21:15] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: then don't hit enter, read the screen and determine what you need select to proceed
[21:16] <kristenbb> it says ctrl x or F10 to boot. But I don't know if 'booting' is what i need to do to proceed. Is it?
[21:16] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: there is a help text at the bottom of the screen. Press the key combo to boot, but delete the inserted line.
[21:16] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: yes, just boot.
[21:17] <kristenbb> ctrl x just adds a x, that's weird
[21:17] <kristenbb> i'm trying F10
[21:17] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: virtualbox?
[21:17] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: yes you need to boot, your box isn't showing anything but a purple screen, usually this fixes a black screen
[21:17] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: no it's a real computer
[21:17] <kristenbb> irssi-mike: ok I hit F10, and this made me quit grub, but I'm back to the purple screen.
[21:18] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: strange. Try F10 then.
[21:18] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: ^
[21:18] <kristenbb> am I supposed to hit reset and try something else now ?
[21:19] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: i don't know grub that intimately, maybe make your edits and then tab and select boot
[21:19] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: If I remember correctly, boot in rescue mode succeeded?
[21:19] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: Just hit the same issue as you *with* libusb-1.0-dev installed... investigating
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[21:19] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: errh I'm not sure what you mean by succeeded, but yes I do have a recovery entry in grub, do you want me to try that?
[21:19] <Aleksei__> Yes.
[21:20] <glitsj16> TJ-: probably not related but i configured using the  --disable-test --enable-maintainer-mode --without-doc switches
[21:20] <DavyH> Seveas: update: I gave up.  Logged out, nuked ~/.config/{compiz-1,dconf,gtk-2.0,gtk-3.0,nautilus,session-state,unity-tweak-tool}.  And the problem went away (along with most of my configuration).
[21:20] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: there'll be sort of a menu there. At least if it does boot to it :).
[21:20] <DavyH> So it was something in my config.  No idea what though.
[21:21] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: so in grub, I have 2 choices : 'ubuntu' or 'advanced options for ubuntu' (there's also 'e' to edit commands or 'c' for a command line). I'm choosing 'advanced'. Now there's 2  choices (apart from 'c' and 'e', still available): ubuntu with 3.8.0-33 generic or the same one in recovery mode.
[21:22] <changeguy> is there a guide to installing microsoft true type fonts or whatever they are called?
[21:22] <kristenbb> Aleksei__:  i'm choosing recovery mode.
[21:22] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: yes.
[21:23] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: some white lines appeared on the screen. Now I have a menu that offers some choices (resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary) along with their description. Which one should I choose ?
[21:23] <OerHeks> changeguy, they are part of the meta package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:23] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: failsafeX
[21:23] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: maybe nouveau.blacklist=1 is the tag you need to pass at boot
[21:23] <changeguy> OerHeks: will that fix some fonts showing up really bad looking
[21:24] <changeguy> OerHeks: its an internet math book that pops up, and the font is all messed up looking
[21:24] <OerHeks> changeguy, sure, it is the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> changeguy  best way to find oud, would be by trying
[21:24] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: it now asks 'continuing will remount your / filesystem in read/write mode and mount any other fs defined in /etc/fstab. Do you wish to continue ?'. Should I say 'yes' ?
[21:24] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: OK, we have an explanation. The line that fails to compile calls the function "libusb_get_version()". That function wasn't added to libusb until 2012-04-19 ... way after precise features were frozen
[21:25] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: add it after "quiet splash"
[21:25] <glitsj16> TJ-: great detective work
[21:25] <ajoul> Why I can't access the ubuntu hard drive from my windows
[21:25] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: yes, that's what is being done during normal startup.
[21:25] <ajoul> how to do that?
[21:25] <changeguy> OerHeks: anything pactuliar I need to do after installing that package?
[21:26] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: okay, now a few white lines appeared (not much), and it's hanging. The first ones mention fsck.
[21:26] <OerHeks> changeguy, nope, when you install restricted-extra's, an popup will apear to accept the UELA, thats all
[21:27] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: can you make a photo or at least type it briefly?
[21:27] <ajoul> HOW DO I ACCESS THE UBUNTU HARDDRIVE FROM WINDOWS IF ITS NOT VISIBLE OR ACCESSIBLE? K,THX
[21:27] <gastrula> glitsj16, thank you for your help, good night!
[21:27] <ramsub07> Hi guys ports 3000 and 3001 are open for me, which run ppp and nessus respectively. How do I stop it ?
[21:27] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: maybe consecutive resets damaged your filesystem.
[21:27] <k1l_> ajoul: no need for caps. thanks
[21:27] <glitsj16> gastrula: welcome, have a good one too
[21:28] <gastrula> thanks :)
[21:28] <changeguy> OerHeks: was it restricted extras or ttf-mscorefonts-installer that I should have installed?
[21:28] <michagogo|cloud> ajoul: You'll need ext4 drivers
[21:28] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: there are 7  lines, the first 3 mention fsck, the 4th mentions dosfsck, the 5th mentions /dev/sda2 clean, the 6th says '/dev/sda3 contains a file system with errors, check forced'. And then it's hanging at the next line (7th), which is '/dev/sda1: 3 files, 252/189768 clusters'.
[21:28] <ajoul> michagogo|cloud how do you suggest I get them?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> ajoul  have you asked in ##windows how windpows works?
[21:29] <ramsub07> Hi guys ports 3000 and 3001 are open for me, which run ppp and nessus respectively. How do I stop it ?
[21:29] <ajoul> MonkeyDust how about you keep your opinion for your self? I am simply asking how to support Ubuntu with Windows which is under the topic
[21:29] <OerHeks> changeguy, ubuntu-restricted-extras, and  ttf-mscorefonts-installer is part of that
[21:30] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: maybe it would be wise to let it think for a while, maybe it's trying to repair the filesystem? I think this operation can sometimes be quite long. But there is no output mentioning what's it's doing, it's just hanging
[21:30] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: It seems it was only being used to print a version report locally. I've simply #ifdef-ed it out... build continuing
[21:30] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: build complete... trying to make the debian binary package now
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> ajoul  are you in windows now?
[21:30] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: Yes, wait for a few minutes. Do you have a LED indicator showing hard drive activity?
[21:30] <ajoul> MonkeyDust no
[21:31] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: no sorry I do not.
[21:31] <ccReynolds> I have a question about setting the desktop when starting over vnc.  It is using unity, but I want to use gnome-fallback.  Is this the correct spot for that?
[21:31] <ajoul> MonkeyDust I am in Mac Os, should I join MacOSx rather?
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> ajoul  guess so, yes
[21:31] <compdoc> ccReynolds, which version of ubuntu?
[21:31] <skinkitten> TJ-, you're something!
[21:31] <ajoul> MonkeyDust are you in ubuntu now?
[21:31] <ccReynolds> 12.04
[21:31] <k1l_> ajoul: you need ext4 drivers. how to do that in windows ask in ##windows
[21:32] <compdoc> ccReynolds, shouldnt be a problem to install
[21:32] <irssi-mike> kristenbb: one thing is the splash screen in the boot parameter is that purple screen, remove it and you should see where a list of "going ons" which might yield more info on why it's not getting over the hump
[21:32] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: by the way this time ctrl alt F2 works (but shows a black screen). only F1 and F7 offer something else than a black screen. F1 is where I was, and F7 shows some white text, (around 15 lines), the last one being 'udev start/running'
[21:32] <skinkitten> glitsj16, looked through this example file:///usr/share/doc/abs-guide/html/arrays.html#EX68 interesting, can you give me some motivation to run with on learning bash? What can I do with it? what do you do with it?
[21:32] <ajoul> MonkeyDust pick another fight than redirecting people through channels. It is not Samsung customer care, that is the positive of getting HUMAN help. If you know you answer if you don't you shut up
[21:32] <glitsj16> TJ-: looking good .. together with skinkitten we should be able to update the forum post later on
[21:33] <k1l_> ajoul: stop that drama now! ask in ##windows how to install ext4 drivers in windows
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> ajoul  please try to behave, join the windows channel if you want advice on how windows os works
[21:33] <ajoul> ok k1l_ appreciate your help
[21:33] <Ouyes> anyone use cloud to backup your data?
[21:33] <ccReynolds> @compdoc i have it installed.  I can't figure out where to set it to default so when i log in w/ a vnc client it comes up.
[21:33] <k1l_> !guidelines > ajoul
[21:33] <changeguy> OerHeks: OK so if I don't want all that extra stuff, just stick to the microsfot packages right
[21:33] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: If this builds I'll push it to my PPA so it's widely available
[21:34] <compdoc> ccReynolds, mine just works. Have you tried selecting 2d when logging into the console? maybe that sets the default
[21:35] <aandre> Hello everyone!
[21:35] <compdoc> ccReynolds, you can set the 2d session in .vnc/xstart
[21:36] <OerHeks> changeguy, not sure if that is an option
[21:36] <glitsj16> skinkitten: bash scripts are very powerfull tools, to give an example, i use a few to automate things like backups, cron jobs, setting a manual volume for certain mail/notification tools, etc .. and also a few to regularly build from git sources
[21:37] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: If the bootup doesn't continue even after a few minutes, then reboot the system by pressing Alt-SysRq-U, Alt-SysRq-B (better than reset), then press e in GRUB, then delete quiet and splash parameters and add nouveau.modeset=0, then press F10 to boot. It should give you a lot more verbose output, so we can determine what's wrong.
[21:37] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: what is sysrq?
[21:38] <aandre> Trying to install xubuntu 12.04.4 on a HP ProBook 4540s with Win7 pro already present,  the Win partition is not displayed on the ubuntu partition manager. Would you know why?
[21:38] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: it's a key, same as Prt Scr. May require Fn on notebooks.
[21:38] <glitsj16> skinkitten: whatever you feel could use some extra kick for making your ubuntu life more enjoyable i'd say, depends on what you do .. you can also understand the system scripts better if you know a bit of bash (logic) so basically it is something that is usefull throught all linux distros
[21:39] <aandre> The whole hard drive is annotated as free space...
[21:41] <skinkitten> glitsj16, diving in :)!
[21:41] <lolihunter__> hello i have a problem with xwinwrap unde ubuntu 13.10 and gnome 3. It work all fine but after under 1 second the video is gone and the normal background is shown or a black background
[21:42] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: I did all that and pressed F10, I still have a purple screen.
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> !info xwinwrap
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> lolihunter__  what's xwinwrap?
[21:43] <lolihunter__> xwinwrap is to set video loops as background
[21:44] <lolihunter__> i have few nice ubuntu styled animated background loops that i want use
[21:45] <lolihunter__> but when i start it, the video is gone after 0.1-0.2 seconds and the normal background is back
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> lolihunter__  maybe contact the guy who created it http://linux.softpedia.com/developer/Shantanu-Goel-26331.html
[21:46] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: I've modified the debianised source package, and it's currently build-testing in my buildd. I have to drive over to the uni now but should be back in an hour, if all has gone well, I'll push the source up to launchpad for a PPA build
[21:46] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: now that's strange. OK, let's try another thing. Do you know which partitions mount where? What is sda1, sda3?
[21:46] <lolihunter__> i have think maybe any here knows a little about xwinwrap and maybe know a solution
[21:46] <kristenbb> Aleksei__:  I'm not sure, sorry, this is not something I do very often. But if I am able to see what's inside, I could tell you which is which.
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> lolihunter__  and tip: don't just install anything you wfind on the net
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> find*
[21:47] <lolihunter__> yes i know that butxwinwrap is the most used one for videos as background
[21:47] <streulma> I have to go, goodnight
[21:47] <lolihunter__> its a little older but sstill work, i only dont know why it wont on my
[21:50] <lolihunter__> or maybe anybody know a other methode to use videos as background?
[21:50] <TJ-> exit
[21:50] <glitsj16> TJ-: no rush, drive safe
[21:51] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: what do you want to know?
[21:53] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: Do you have a Live CD/USB? It will be much easier to repair the system from it.
[21:53] <JuJuBee> I have to reinstall grub2 after a windows install.  If Linux is on sdb5, when I execute the grub-install command, shouldn't it be sda?
[21:53] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: ok I'm launching one right now.
[21:54] <usr13> aandre: Did you find it yet?
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> lolihunter__  http://www.unixmen.com/use-a-dream-video-as-animated-background-in-ubuntu/
[21:54] <JuJuBee> My windows partition is sda2 I should add
[21:54] <aandre> usr13: still not
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> lolihunter__  now i see, it mention xwinwrap, too
[21:55] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: ok, I just launched a live cd, what now?
[21:55] <lolihunter__> yes
[21:55] <usr13> aandre: There is no reason why it should be there, (unless you've deleted it).
[21:55] <lolihunter__> and i dont know why the video is only shown under 1 sec
[21:55] <ajoul> How to remove GRUB, after uninstalling ubuntu
[21:55] <lolihunter__> i use also gnome 3.8
[21:55] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: run `sudo fdisk -l' to determine Linux partitions, then run fsck on them.
[21:56] <usr13> ajoul: If you rumove grub, how will you boot your computer?
[21:56] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: what does run fsck on them mean? what command am I to use ?
[21:56] <k1l_> ajoul: run a windows cd and install the windows bootloader. how to do that ask the windows guys in ##windows
[21:56] <aandre> usr13: i'll reboot and see, but i'm sure Win is still there
[21:56] <usr13> ajoul: Oh, you removed Ubuntu... ok.
[21:56] <ajoul> k1l_ I tried but that didn't work is there another way to remove it?
[21:56] <usr13> ajoul: Boot to the other OS and restore it's own boot loader.
[21:57] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: `sudo fsck device_path'
[21:57] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: as in sudo fsck /dev/sda1 ?
[21:57] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: yes.
[21:57] <k1l_> ajoul: you will need a bootloader anyway to boot something. so either use grub or install the windows one. but again: ask the windows guys how the want their bootloader to be installed
[21:58] <CrazyZurfer> Hi guys... I've got a samsung laptop with JBL sound system and it has a subwoofer under the laptop, and for no reason it stops working after like 30 seconds of no use.. so I have to turn the audio off and on again to make it work.. and it's pretty anoying turning that off and on all the time.. any clue what could be wrong
[21:58] <CrazyZurfer> ?
[21:58] <aandre> usr13: Windows still boots
[21:58] <usr13> kristenbb: But do it on unmounted partitions only.
[21:58] <usr13> aandre: Try again.
[21:58] <kristenbb> usr13: what does that mean?
[21:58] <usr13> aandre: (Pretty sure you'll find it next time.
[21:58] <kristenbb> usr13: all of them are unmounted, since i'm on a live cd, no ?
[21:59] <usr13> kristenbb: Good
[21:59] <usr13> kristenbb: Make sure they are not monted before doing filesystem check on them.
[22:00] <usr13> kristenbb: Check and see.  Use command   mount
[22:00] <usr13> kristenbb: (You could have all of them mounted for all we know.)
[22:02] <Aleksei__> usr13: I don't know of any Live CD, which automatically mounts all partitions, but you are right to be careful.
[22:02] <hil>  hi guys, a little help here. Using wifi and an ethernet cable i get speeds of 50kbps on a 2mb link. But when i tether from my phone i'm able to use all the bandwidth provided by the phone's connection.What's wrong?
[22:03] <usr13> hil: How are you doing the speed test?
[22:03] <aandre> usr13: It'll be the thrird time. But let's see ;)
 i use the resources option on the network monitor app
[22:04] <lolihunter__> i testet it again and it only works withut the fillscreen mode
[22:04] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: so I have 3 partitions, sda1, sda2 and sda3. sda1 is very small and flagged as 'boot'. The output of fsck sda1 didn't seem worrysome. sda2 also checked clean. Now fsck sda3 is more problematic: '/dev/sda3 contains a file system with errors, check forced. pass1 : checking inodes, blocks, and sizes. pass 2: checking directory structure. Directory inode 7241755, block 0, offset 0, directory correcupted. salvage<y> ?    What should I do ?
[22:04] <usr13> aandre: I really do not have an explanation for not seeing partitions in the partition manager.  Ive done a lot of installs, never had that happen before.
[22:05] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: say y.
[22:05] <usr13> kristenbb: What type of filesystem is on sda3?
[22:05] <kristenbb> ext4
[22:06] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: it now says 'missing . in directory inode 7241755, fix<y> ? Yes again?
[22:06] <usr13> kristenbb: As Aleksei__ suggests,  y   (repair it)
[22:06] <Aleksei__> confirm
[22:07] <hil>  hi guys, a little help here. Using wifi and an ethernet cable i get speeds of 50kbps on a 2mb link. But when i tether from my phone i'm able to use all the bandwidth provided by the phone's connection.What's wrong?
[22:07] <usr13> kristenbb: I usually run fsck with the -y option in the first place, (that way I don't have to do it again and again...)
[22:07] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: it now says 'setting filetype for entry '.' in ??? (7241755) to 2. Missing '..' in directory inode 7241755. Fix<y> ?
[22:07] <usr13> hil: What part of the world do you live in?
[22:08] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: press y every time it asks to fix things.
[22:08] <usr13> hil: I think you need to use some sort of online speed test.
[22:08] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: If there are too many and you are tired, relaunch with -y option, as usr13 suggested.
[22:08] <usr13> hil: Like http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[22:09] <usr13> kristenbb: just keep hitting y
[22:10] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: ok, it finished, if i rerun it, it now says clean. What now ?
[22:10] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: should I try to reboot without the live cd ?
[22:10] <aandre> usr13: Nothing changed... Uh, it might be an naive question, but, in a LiveCD session, would an apt-get upgrade change something? Before launching the installation wizzard again.
[22:11] <Bren> Hello can someone help me with a question I have about whether a driver exists or not for a wireless adapter I'm using?
[22:12] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: Now reboot. Add nouveau.modeset=0 to the kernel cmdline. If it doesn't boot correctly, press Alt-SysRq-S, wait a bit, Alt-SysRq-U, wait a bit, Alt-SysRq-B, then boot into Live CD again.
[22:12] <skinkitten> glitsj16, is there a shorthand way of saying $. I'm seeing it a lot in bash scripts, and wondering if there's a single syllable word for it :)
[22:13] <Bren> Can someone tell me if my wireless adapter will work with ubuntu?
[22:13] <aandre> usr13: This problem might come from UEFI, it's the first time i use a computer featuring this technology. And i'm not at ease with it. Apparently this mode isn't set. The Windows install doesn't use it. But we never know...
[22:13] <usr13> Bren: Probably will.
[22:13] <hil> thanks usr13. Speed is normal for downloads and stuff . the real problem is in updating .It's just so slow even after choosing the best server but is fast only when i'm tethering from my phone
[22:14] <Kicksledkid> Bren: It's pretty universal
[22:14] <Bren> Can someone check? I have a Netgear WNA3100 wireless adapter for my desktop
[22:14] <Bren> or at least link me to where I can check
[22:15] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: sorry I misread your instructions, and rebooted normally without the kernel cmdline. It is booting fine ! Am I to assume my problem is fixed  ?
[22:15] <skinkitten> glitsj16, just learned its called expand!
[22:15] <SpartanS63> Does anyone here have an Nvidia Optimus laptop with multiple monitors connected?
[22:15] <Kicksledkid> Bren: whats the problem? is it not working or do you just want to be sure
[22:15] <Bren> well I want to be sure before I install ubuntu
[22:15] <hil> usr13: Speed is normal for downloads and stuff . the real problem is in updating .It's just so slow even after choosing the best server but is fast only when i'm tethering from my phone
[22:16] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: Ah, that's great. If it is stable to boot fine, then your problem is fixed.
[22:16] <Kicksledkid> oh ok.
[22:16] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: or, as you said, hitting 'reset' multiple times is what caused the file system being corrupted, but the underlying problem as to why the computer didn't start in the first time still is there?
[22:16] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: Yes, but now at least you can check the logs next time.
[22:16] <Kicksledkid> Bren: is it a fairly standard adaptor?
[22:17] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: so as a general rule, it's better to hit the power button just once or the shortcuts you mentioned, rather than hitting reset ?
[22:18] <Bren> Kicksledkid: last time I installed ubuntu, it wasn't working properly.. I had to install something that would emulat windows drivers and when I did a system update for ubuntu it wiped it or something.. basically my wireless wasn't working after then. I'm trying to see if there's a native driver for it.
[22:18] <Beldar> Bren, when I google 'WNA3100 ubuntu' I see pages of info, I would look there, it may be some work is all.
[22:18] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: The shortcuts I mentioned sync the remaining data, remount the filesystems read-only and only then reboot. It prevents filesystem corruption.
[22:18] <ice9> how to run Gnome 3 with Wayland?
[22:19] <Bren> Beldar: there's no driver index I can search to see if the driver exists or not? I'm looking for something native :P
[22:19] <Kicksledkid> Bren: oh ok I see now... thats weird..
[22:19] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: what is the difference between s,u, b ?
[22:19] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: Sync, remoUnt, reBoot.
[22:20] <Beldar> Bren, Not that I know of, if it were me I would get a card or usb that plugs and works. I see nothing but windows emulations as you described.
[22:20] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: I see. Well thank you very much for your help.
[22:20] <Bren> Beldar: does eyefinity or something similiar work for ubuntu? I'm using windows at the moment and I've got an ati radeon 6850 graphics card.
[22:20] <petzup> hello, i have problem with ubuntu hibernation, isnt it working good on 13.10?
[22:21] <usr13> petzup: Try suspend
[22:21] <petzup> suspend works
[22:21] <Beldar> Bren, I have no idea what eyefinity is.
[22:21] <Aleksei__> kristenbb: you are welcome. Hopefully the issue doesn't happen again.
[22:21] <petzup> yep, suspend works pefrect
[22:21] <kristenbb> Aleksei__: if it does i'll be sure to come back here again, and hopefully i'll find you :). Thanks, i'm logging out now.
[22:22] <Bren> eyefinity basically forces the 2 screens to act as 1 so essentially my start bar for windows spans across the entirety of the two monitors. I hoped that's explained well enough
[22:22] <Bren> Beldar: basically does ubuntu support multi monitor setup?
[22:22] <Beldar> Bren, generally yes.
[22:24] <Beldar> Bren, I assuming you are looking to dual boot?
[22:24] <Beldar> I'm*
[22:25] <gh0st> centuary?
[22:25] <Bren> Beldar: actually I'm on windows and all the computers are infected. I doubt the virus will run on ubuntu... trust me I've reformatted many times and can't get rid of the virus
[22:25] <petzup> okey hibernation is bug
[22:25] <petzup> what about disabling bluetooth on startup?
[22:26] <glitsj16> skinkitten: sorry, my head was caught in the fridge .. :) you're diving in allright, enjoy
[22:26] <centaury> ghost?
[22:26] <gh0st> ey
[22:26] <gh0st> HEY!  U GOT IT!
[22:27] <find-help> hi how can i use the 'find' command to list all files starting with either 0 or 1 character  at the begining of the filename. e.g find 1.jpg 11.jpg but not 30-1.jpg
[22:27] <centaury> Great thanks
[22:27] <gh0st> yo centuary
[22:27] <centaury> Haha im still nobb with irc
[22:28] <find-help> ive being trying find . -name 0* -o -name 1* -ls but that doesnt shwo all the files as expected
[22:28] <centaury> so you from usa?
[22:28] <gh0st> well using pidgin's wierd interface defs does not help if ur a noob
[22:28] <hil_> I'm having very slow update speeds even  after choosing the best server both on ethernet and on wifi. The speed only picks up when i tether from my phone.I'm a newbie and now getting the hang of commands around here.
[22:28] <Bren> find-help: type 1*.jpg and 0*.jpg I believe
[22:28] <gh0st> but i'm glad we were able to work thru it
[22:28] <centaury> what other chat clients do you suggest/
[22:28] <Bren> find-help: in most respects, an asterisk is a wildcard so yeah you can try that
[22:29] <gh0st> well for windows, mirc
[22:29] <centaury> yes me too. how do you know so much about chattin etc?
[22:29] <Bren> find-help: if that doesn't work then you'll need to use some regex
[22:29] <gh0st> for linux i would go with xchat
[22:29] <gh0st> i been on irc since like 2001
[22:29] <centaury> are you a programmer?
[22:30] <gh0st> eehhh... more of a.. hacker
[22:30] <find-help> Bren: tried that doesnt work
[22:30] <gh0st> ish
[22:30] <gh0st> person
[22:30] <gh0st> but i can program
[22:30] <centaury> Nice! I want to learn. Do you use Metasploit?
[22:30] <Bren> find-help: your only option is to used regex to match the files you're looking for
[22:30] <gh0st> i mainly find exploits via google but unless u wanna pay for a license to metasploit, u should get kali linux
[22:31] <gh0st> also comes with most tools u would be using
[22:31] <gh0st> i think tho we should switch to a private channel b4 we piss of these people
[22:31] <centaury> and open source i presume?
[22:32] <centaury> okay are you on google talk?
[22:32] <gh0st> i don't know about that.  i got a google acct
[22:33] <gh0st> anyway u should log out and log back in but in #gh0standcentuary
[22:33] <jrtappers> Kali is quite good from a live USB for playing with
[22:33] <centaury> okay
[22:34] <CrazyZurfer> Hi guys... I've got a samsung laptop with JBL sound system and it has a subwoofer under the laptop, and for no reason it stops working after like 30 seconds of no use.. so I have to turn the audio off and on again to make it work.. and it's pretty anoying turning that off and on all the time.. any clue what could be wrong?
[22:34] <ice9> how to change file's uid?
[22:34] <Bren> find-help: you still there?
[22:34] <find-help> Bren: Thansk for the advice my solution was to use find \( -name "1*" -o -name "0*" \) -print
[22:34] <find-help> Bren: might not be technically classed as a regex but it works for me :-)
[22:35] <Bren> find-help: so you got it working?
[22:35] <find-help> yes
[22:35] <red_> hiiiiiii
[22:36] <red_> i m
[22:36] <ulkesh> In running lscpu (or cat /proc/cpuinfo), I see my "cpu MHz" is 1600.00, however I have a core i7 quad that is supposed to run at 3.4GHz. Anyone know why this would be and/or how to fix it?
[22:37] <ianorlin> it is saving power by not running as fast
[22:37] <ulkesh> ianorlin: potentially, I suppose I'm just wondering if what it says is the min, the max, or the "active"
[22:38] <toobluesc> Does anyone know how to install grub without writing the modules to /boot/grub ?
[22:39] <ulkesh> ianorlin: nevermind, it's "active"...i just revved the CPU and saw that it did indeed change.  Thanks for the help
[22:41] <elvis> hola
[22:41] <loa> what can be wrong if my hotkey don't work&
[22:41] <loa> ?
[22:42] <Baudrate> maybe its cold
[22:43] <CrazyZurfer> elvis: hola?
[22:44] <aaronr_> teward: wandered off for a bit, but when I came back it'd compiled. will see if it works tomorrow. thanks for your help!
[22:44] <elvis> CrazyZurfer: necesito ayuda
[22:44] <CrazyZurfer> elvis: no puedes hablar inglés?
[22:44] <CrazyZurfer> elvis: trata #ubuntu-es
[22:45] <elvis> CrazyZurfer:ok
[22:49] <hony> is there any way to convert videos to flv formats using terminal
[22:49] <hony> ??
[22:51] <hony> is there any way to convert videos to flv formats using the terminal ???
[22:52] <loa> hony, try google ffmpeg flv convert
[22:53] <Lasivian> debating going with a linux softraid box (home setup, simple mirroring) or sticking with my old Highpoint 2224 card in a Windows machine. My "moderate" level of linux knowledge concerns me. Is this a bad idea? thanks
[22:54] <CarlFK> hony: I was just trying that a few weeks ago - I had a problem: the flv claimed it was 1000fps, which caused ffmpeg to error.  do I gave up.
[22:55] <loa> flv with 1000 fps O_O
[22:55] <loa> what was that? slowmo porn?
[22:56] <CarlFK> loa: bad bytes in the header.  guessing there was some sort of timing data on each frame that is what the player used
[22:56] <loa> ah
[22:57] <loa> i think you could split it into png
[22:57] <loa> and implode them after that
[22:59] <FuuqUmiist> hello anyone here install goldendict and is able to get databases working properly?
[23:00] <shahan> hello
[23:02] <hony> ???
[23:02] <hony> is there any way to convert videos to flv format fast using the terminal
[23:03] <irssi-mike> hony: i think ffmpg was mentioned
[23:03] <hony> thanks bro
[23:04] <epsilonorion> I am trying to run Ubuntu Server but have an issue.  If I attempted to setup eth or wlan, but there is nothing for them to connect to, the OS hangs for anywhere from 30second to multiple minutes.  If I disable all network connections, it boots immediately.  I know that there is a standard timeout, but I feel this is too extreme.
[23:04] <epsilonorion> Is there a place to check timeouts or any other places to find what this problem may be?
[23:05] <aandre> On the live session desktop, i see 3 devices: "File system" (containing the virtual / ), "File system" (the whole hard drive, containing classical windows files: Program Files, Users, etc.) and "System reserved" (containing files i don't know, like BOOT/, BOOTSECT.BAK...). But GParted sees the main drive as empty.
[23:05] <FuuqUmiist> why do some apps on the ubuntu repos not work?
[23:05] <shahan> what's something really important to know for ubuntu/general linux use that most people don't know?
[23:06] <daftykins> epsilonorion: servers should have a static IP anyway. NEVER a wireless interface, too
[23:06] <aandre> I don't want to corrupt the Windows install...
[23:06] <irssi-mike> shahan: swappiness
[23:06] <daftykins> aandre: i don't see a question
[23:07] <aandre> hony: an example you can customize: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1594/convert-.flv-to-.3gp
[23:07] <OerHeks> FuuqUmiist, why do you not tell which apps?
[23:07] <irssi-mike> aandre: try sudo fdisk -l
[23:08] <aandre> daftykins: Why do GParted does see my HD as empty? How can i install Ubuntu being sure not to alter the Win install.
[23:08] <epsilonorion> daftykins: I would agree with you if I were using this for a server, however, I am using it for a robot system
[23:08] <irssi-mike> epsilonorion: how new is your hardware
[23:08] <epsilonorion> daftykins: but my assumption is setting up a network shouldn't matter
[23:09] <daftykins> aandre: maybe you selected the wrong disk
[23:09] <epsilonorion> irssi-mike: I am putting it on an Embedded Odroid U3 system that uses similar hardware to the previous model which is over a year old
[23:09] <daftykins> epsilonorion: so is the timeout DHCP or what?
[23:10] <epsilonorion> daftykins: I am not sure.  One of my questions was to see how to find out if it was
[23:10] <aandre> irssi-mike: thank you, fdisk warns me about a GPT it doesn't manage
[23:10] <shahan> uh oh might be having issues with irssi in tmux... chat not scrolling..
[23:11] <impossible> my mouse only has up and down, whats up with that
[23:11] <impossible> goes*
[23:11] <aandre> daftykins: There's only one. GParted sees it as free space, that's the problem...
[23:12] <aandre> daftykins: Only /dev/sda :/
[23:12] <daftykins> aandre: so, sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:13] <OerHeks> aandre try gdisk for gtp
[23:13] <irssi-mike> impossible: sudo modprobe -r psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse
[23:14] <irssi-mike> shot in dark
[23:14] <aandre> daftykins: fdisk (Complains about GPT first and then) sees /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[23:14] <epsilonorion> any ideas on the hanging problem for the network
[23:15] <irssi-mike> epsilonorion: when it boots can you ifconfig
[23:15] <epsilonorion> yes
[23:15] <irssi-mike> what about iwlist scanning
[23:16] <epsilonorion> however, I will admit there was an occasional point where it froze, but we will ignore that for a moment
[23:16] <daftykins> aandre: pastebin it please
[23:16] <epsilonorion> and yes, I can iwlist scan
[23:17] <cgj> Hi, I have a MacBookPro1,1 (from 2006 and is 32 bit) I've tried to make a booting usb installer with no success. Any hints?
[23:17] <irssi-mike> and that shows networks in area?
[23:18] <aandre> daftykins: brb on the other computer
[23:18] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[23:18] <epsilonorion> yes. And I do get a connection to the router that I am attempting occasionally.  Basically, it hangs when I am having a hard time getting a connection to the router or if there is no router.
[23:19] <epsilonorion> Originally it seemed like a timeout on DHCP to me, however, when it started going on for over 30 seconds I started assuming a problem
[23:19] <irssi-mike> epsilonorion: something must be autoconfiged, maybe remove it.. /etc/NetworkManager/ connections rm them
[23:20] <epsilonorion> irssi-mike: no networkmanager.  I am using server, so I am setting up my own wpa_supplicant
[23:20] <impossible> irssi-mike, restart after?
[23:20] <irssi-mike> epsilonorion: i notive static ip is pretty instant, maybe can set one
[23:20] <TJ-> skinkitten: glitsj16: back on the job. build failure - minor issue (installing usb blacklist file) but brain-twisting to figure out the correction to Makefile.am
[23:20] <epsilonorion> on my personal router I can, but not the business router (which is the main one I have a problem with)
[23:21] <irssi-mike> impossible: maybe just gdm
[23:21] <aandre> http://pastebin.com/3aWTDdTz
[23:21] <irssi-mike> sudo service lightgdm restart something like that
[23:23] <aandre> fdisk: http://pastebin.com/YeyjJNcB
[23:23] <epsilonorion> The current test I am running is with just setting up eth0 to auto, but not connecting it to anything.  I am currently +1min with system hang and counting
[23:25] <irssi-mike> aandre: looks like sda1 is boot for win and sda2 is win, i would resize sda2 and install there
[23:25] <epsilonorion> irssi-mike: okay, was between 1 to 1.5 minutes before finishing boot
[23:26] <callipygous> Anybody able to help me with my issue?  I'm trying to connect Tuner Studio to my cars ECU, but there is a problem with it creating /var/lock/ files...
[23:27] <callipygous> ...I've tried changing the permission of /var/lock and also adding my user to group root, but no change
[23:27] <epsilonorion> irssi-mike: okay, simply changing the dhcp timeout seems to be it.  So for some reason the default timeout is huge
[23:28] <Baudrate> I got ubuntu 13.10 and I must have messed up the installation of 14.1 beta drivers for my AMD card, I also have a Nvidia card in it as well, now it doesn't boot, tried failsafeX no go any suggestions?
[23:28] <irssi-mike> epsilonorion: what about previous versions of kernel on this hardware, same thing?
[23:29] <epsilonorion> irssi-mike: I believe so
[23:29] <aandre> irssi-mike: Here is what gparted displays: http://imagebin.org/293753
[23:30] <epsilonorion> irssi-mike: though I am not sure how to fix the problem if attempting to make a static ip address.
[23:33] <hatim> DAsEi: hello
[23:33] <MacGuges> Hello, I'm troubleshooting my dad's Ubuntu installation, described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204900  Ubuntu does not boot from the grub menu.  Can someone advise me?
[23:33] <hatim> hatim
[23:34] <hatim> q
[23:34] <hatim> :wq
[23:34] <cgj> not vi
[23:34] <cgj>  /quite
[23:34] <k1l> hatim: /quit to exit irc program
[23:35] <hatim> for what
[23:35] <callipygous> anybody able to tell me my /var/lock is causing me problems?
[23:35] <OerHeks> !aptlock
[23:36] <k1l> callipygous: dont open several programs that work with the package system at the same time
[23:36] <irssi-mike> aandre: here's what you want to do, crank up windows and right click my computer, click manage, resize your NTFS to whatever you want to leave for linux then go back to gparted and slap ext4 on it or just use the install disk
[23:36] <epsilonorion> irssi-mike: problem is that now that I have the timeout lower, I never connect to the business router.  I will have to look into my method of connection.  I must be doing something wrong
[23:36] <callipygous> thanks OerHeks, but it's got nothing to do with the package system
[23:37] <callipygous> I'm trying to get TunerStudio to detect my usb to serial
[23:37] <callipygous> but it runs in to problems with /var/lock/USB...
[23:38] <TJ-> epsilonorion: During the boot process, the 'networking' upstart job runs... if an interface is defined as auto dhcp, there can be a long wait for it if the DHCP server isn't available for any reason,
[23:38] <aandre> irssi-mike: Thank you very much! I'm really not at ease with those "partition" things... :)
[23:39] <MacGuges> I need help troubleshooting the boot up of my Dad's pc.  I only have a few hours tonight to work on this.  grub appears to be ok, but the system logger isn't starting.  What can I do to restore his system?
[23:39] <irssi-mike> aandre: if you're okay with a somewhat gimped version of ubuntu, ubuntu offers wubi. it's neat but much less invasive and won't touch your partitions
[23:40] <rww> iirc Wubi isn't supported these days
[23:40] <irssi-mike> rww: good to know
[23:41] <rww> also, doesn't work with UEFI, which kind of puts a damper on things
[23:42] <aandre> irssi-mike: Yeah, i know Wubi, but think i've read it was deprecated or unmaintained, isn't it?
[23:43] <callipygous> hmm
[23:43]  * dramas looks lecherously at callipygous 
[23:43] <dramas> <3 your nick
[23:44] <skinkitten> TJ-, what happened? =[
[23:44] <glitsj16> TJ-: welcome back, it sure isn't the simplest of tasks .. do as you see fit, i've already made a short addition to the forum post on the possible libusb error, looks like quite a few people are looking for the 5.2.10-pre1 gutenprint (no pressure in these lines :) )
[23:45] <irssi-mike> aandre: well then the live cd can be customized and if even setup with space to make changes, if you have a spare USB drive and want to tinker with it without changing your system
[23:46] <epsilonorion> TJ-: So in comparison to NetworkManager, how does it handle the DHCP connection.  I never seem to have the problem with Desktop hanging while waiting for DHCP, but with something that I setup network myself and rely on dhcp, it hangs
[23:47] <sakter12> is there a way to make the cursor blink rate faster in gnome terminal?
[23:49] <Arceye> wow,    look at me learning , I just installed gparted using a terminal :D
[23:49] <foobar45> What distros handle the win key similar to unity ubuntu?
[23:49] <irssi-mike> Arceye: ^5
[23:50] <junknown> Hello! I just installed ubuntu 13.10 on my new PC with an GTX 780 inside it. The nouveau driver works with my 1440p resolution out of the box. When I try installing proprietary drivers with the software settings, or with the apt-get... i restart and get a flashign red/blue/green screen. I just now installed the latest drivers using the edgers:ppa repository. Upon restart my system goes into low graphics mode siting an error with detecting
[23:50] <junknown>  settings correctly
[23:50] <demophobia> How do I quickly bring up chat windows in Empathy after seeing a notice of an incoming IM?
[23:53] <epsilonorion> To add to my problems, if I do something like "service networking stop" it also hangs
[23:53] <skinkitten> brb keep me updated
[23:54] <irssi-mike> junknown: well you should have been asked to remove nouveau somewhere in the nvidia driver setup, i have 580m but on another machine but it's possible. find a good how to and put cuda on it too
[23:54] <Feebz> Hello, newbew to 12.04.  Want to upgrade my video card.  Anything I should do before pulling out the old one? Going from ATI > Nvidiea
[23:54] <no_name> I'm running 12.04 w/ NVIDIA drivers and when I run chrome X11 tunnelled via SSH, the first time I run it on my remote machine, the local widgets are all just clips of local video memory garbage.  Later times I run it, it is fine.  If I try it from a windows machine with xming, I don't have this problem.  If I run firefox first I don't have the problem. any ideas?
[23:54] <epsilonorion> but I can cancel it and it will show that networking stopped
[23:55] <ericmuyser> having a slight problem when I `sudo su myuser` and it's going to /home/ubuntu, not the home dir set in /usr/passwd (echo $HOME is correct)
[23:57] <TJ-> epsilonorion: Sorry, was focused on something else.
[23:57] <k1l> Feebz: remove the ati/amd driver (if you installed the flgrx one) then reboot and install the nvidia-current after the new card is in
[23:58] <TJ-> epsilonorion: When using manual network configuration, the networking scripts will call "ifup <iface>" for each interface defined in "/etc/network/interfaces"