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manchickenapachelogger: ping05:04
apacheloggermanchicken: pong09:09
manchickenapachelogger: You've got mail09:10
manchickenI cheated with the automated tests, I used conditional friend classes :)09:10
apacheloggerRiddell: plasma-nm FTBFS everywhere, are you on that?10:05
Riddellapachelogger: hmm does it?  but yes I was going to look at all those nm packages today10:06
apacheloggerScottK: did you get a chance to get debug output from the patch?10:16
manchickenAlright, I'm gonna try to do the whole sleeping thing again. Later.10:18
apacheloggersleep, mhhh10:19
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kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1281036] Why is kdm still depending on consolekit? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1281036 (by Simon Rettberg)10:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: you didn't file an archive removel request for synaptiks?10:55
apacheloggerohohoh11:05
apacheloggerneed to write code oh my11:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: btw, you need to write a kns/kded module or somethign to check for properietary drivers11:06
apacheloggerthat feature was broken for the past 3000 years or so11:06
apacheloggerit was there though ^^11:06
apacheloggeryou totally got the notification once you logged out xD11:06
apacheloggerwell11:06
apacheloggerduring logout11:06
apacheloggerkns seriuosly needs  a rewrite11:28
jussi!info kns11:28
Riddellget hot new stuff!11:28
* jussi wonders what kns is...11:28
ubottuPackage kns does not exist in saucy11:28
Riddell11:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: I did11:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: ScottK handled it11:31
apacheloggershadeslayer: please be closing bugs then11:31
apacheloggerjussi: knh actually11:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: more importantly though, please be writing some notification thing11:32
shadeslayerapachelogger: I'll put it on my todo for tday11:32
shadeslayerapachelogger: re closing bugs, everything needs to be closed? There might be valid bugs for Saucy?11:32
apacheloggersee policy11:33
RiddellDarkwing_: happy birthday!11:42
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1281036] Why is kdm still depending on consolekit? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1281036 (by Simon Rettberg)11:47
shadeslayerkubotu: order birthday package for Darkwing_11:47
* kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.11:47
* kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to Darkwing_ and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.11:47
kubotuHappy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday Darkwing_, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho!11:47
kubotuHappy Birthday Darkwing_ :D11:47
kubotuTo your health!11:47
shadeslayerbeer at 12:50 PM :311:48
apacheloggeroh oh11:51
apacheloggerthere may be a problem with libkubuntu11:51
jussiBEER!!!!!!!!!!!!11:51
jussiapachelogger: is the problem that there is no beer?11:51
apacheloggeryes11:52
apacheloggerI have no beer11:52
apacheloggerwtf11:52
* apachelogger needs to get supply later11:52
apacheloggerwhoopwhoop11:52
apacheloggerRiddell: libkubuntu may need bump to soversion2 xD11:52
* apachelogger wanted to be cool and use a qscopedpointer11:52
apacheloggerfor the d_ptr11:52
apacheloggerbut for some reason when you try to allocate a thing that contains a qscopedpointer on the stack it falls over dead because qscopedpointer wants the private class to be declared which of course it is not11:53
apacheloggersuprisingly it works when newing though11:53
apachelogger(not quite sure why it would fail to scopepoint in one case but not the other)11:54
apacheloggeroh wait, now it is broken regardless11:56
apacheloggerahhh11:58
apacheloggerit has to do with calling delete on the object11:58
apacheloggerwtf11:58
apacheloggerqscopedpointer for dptr is shit11:58
apacheloggerthat's what I get for trying to not write elitist code I guess :'<11:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: fwiw I can't reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/128077312:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1280773 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "List of drivers gets repeated" [Undecided,New]12:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/Pofwjwv.png12:05
apacheloggerreset != defaults12:05
apacheloggeryou need to make a change, then click reset12:05
shadeslayeroh12:06
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: Do I actually have to apply the change12:06
shadeslayeror just click another radio button12:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: another radio button12:19
apacheloggerif you apply the change you can't reset AFAIK12:19
shadeslayerahh12:20
shadeslayergot12:20
shadeslayer*got it12:20
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/EOjjJrR.png12:33
apacheloggersomeone please come up with a better string12:33
apacheloggerjussi: halp12:33
jussiapachelogger: "dude, you cant youse it without all the bitz!!!!!" ?12:34
apacheloggermuch better, thx12:40
Riddellapachelogger: "Language support is incomplete, install remaining language packs" ?12:45
apacheloggerRiddell: "Language support is incomplete, additional packages required"12:47
apacheloggeractually I would still call it software rather than packages TBH12:48
apacheloggerpackages is already very specific12:48
Riddell"language packs" I'm pretty sure that's used in other places like Windows too12:53
ScottKapachelogger: Did't see the patch.12:54
apacheloggerRiddell: it might not only be language packs13:00
apacheloggerRiddell: we also install dictionaries and stuff13:00
apacheloggerScottK: <apachelogger> ScottK: to be save though, if you could send me a screenshot of the 'mark additional changes' dialog it would be good13:00
apachelogger<apachelogger> ScottK: also here's a patch for qapt that adds debug on change detection, shoudl also help to pin point the exact problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/6930395/ 13:00
Riddell"Language support is incomplete, install remaining language support" ?13:00
apacheloggerthat sounds weird13:01
* apachelogger found a grave bug :O13:01
apacheloggeror not13:02
apacheloggerman that parsing code is shit13:02
apacheloggerRiddell: there really was a bug with support detection and en_GB13:14
apacheloggerwas using the wrong of the 3 codes -.-13:14
apacheloggervoid Kubuntu::LanguagePrivate::possiblyAddMissingPackage(const QString&) "kde-l10n-engb" 13:14
apacheloggerfound missing package "kde-l10n-engb" 13:14
apacheloggermuch better now13:14
Riddelloh well don't worry too much, after september we'll get a new country code anyway13:15
apachelogger^^13:15
apacheloggerit's highly annoying that we have 3 strings to express the same thing though13:16
apacheloggerso very annoying13:16
apacheloggerzh_TW essentially is the same13:16
* apachelogger wonders why JT hand crafted a qapt GUI in knh13:32
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apacheloggershadeslayer: did you actually get anywhere with your qapt->plasma thing?13:41
* apachelogger ponders how to present language install13:41
apacheloggerwaaah, the code13:51
apacheloggersuch terrible.13:51
sgclarkRiddell: did you get my email with the packages I finished?13:53
apacheloggerm_hiddenCfgString = QString("hide" % m_name % "Notifier");13:54
apacheloggerfanciest thing I have seen today13:54
apacheloggermakes no sense, but very fancy13:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: not really14:03
shadeslayerit stopped working for some reason14:03
shadeslayerand I don't have the code anymore14:03
apacheloggernevermind then14:03
apacheloggerRiddell: notification-helper pushed, requires libkubuntu from git master14:04
apacheloggerwould be lovely ifyou could test14:04
apacheloggerUX is not the best I could imagine but qapt-batch is plenty cheap in terms of code14:05
apacheloggeranyone who hasn't filled out the discover featured apps form yet and wants to?14:06
apacheloggerclosing in 3 hours other wise14:06
shadeslayerI have 14:07
apacheloggercurrently we are looking at 5 apps: digikam > kdeconnect > amarok | chromium | vlc14:07
apacheloggeroh my14:09
apacheloggerI know why qscopedpointer acted14:09
apacheloggerup14:09
apachelogger<- too stupid to define a dtor14:10
shadeslayeryofel: ping14:10
yofelhm?14:10
shadeslayeryofel: do you still have configs for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/UpgradeTestingSetup14:10
yofelhm, didn't we put those somewhere on lp?14:11
shadeslayercan't find on my page, or on kubuntu-dev or on kubuntu-packagers14:12
yofelshadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/auto-upgrade-testing/auto-upgrade-testing ?14:12
shadeslayerheers14:12
shadeslayer*cheers14:12
shadeslayerjoin #ubuntu-devel14:15
shadeslayerpft14:15
apacheloggerwhat an IRC noob :P14:15
Riddellsgclark: yes I did thanks, should look at those shortly14:17
apacheloggerRiddell, shadeslayer: lts policy was written meanwhile if you want to pre-review that before I submit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Policies#Long_Term_Support_.28LTS.29 14:22
shadeslayernot today14:22
apacheloggergoing to submit for approval in 3 hours or so14:22
Riddellapachelogger: submit to where?14:23
sgclarkRiddell: add kglobalaccel to that list14:25
apacheloggerRiddell: list14:27
sgclarkRiddell: kguiaddons14:43
douglis my bluetooth supposed to be working ... somethimes it show in tray and sometimes not... when not it say there is nno adapter in system settings?14:51
Riddellthat's about what I get :(  seems to be something low level14:53
douglok - as long as someone knows I don't have to learn how to do a bug report - lol14:53
douglRiddell, we discussed this recently - you told me about bluedevil? (sanity check)14:54
yofelRiddell: did you get the bluez issue worked out? As far as I see bluedevil can't possibly be working in trusty14:57
Riddellyofel: uh oh, why not?14:58
yofelRiddell: because bluedevil2 only works with bluez5? (AFAIK)14:58
Riddellyofel: I reverted back to 1.3.214:58
yofeloh ok, then my cache is out of date14:59
yofelnvm14:59
sgclarkRiddell: kidletime15:02
Riddellhmm, new libmodemmanager qt is not binary compatible but has same soname15:10
sgclarkRiddell: kimageformats15:15
Riddellgo go sgclark!15:16
shadeslayeryofel: so .. : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/auto-upgrade-testing/auto-upgrade-testing/revision/10315:16
shadeslayernow to figure out if things still work :PO15:16
yofelI'll look at it once I'm home ^^15:17
shadeslayercheers :)15:18
shadeslayeryofel: fyi : Text conflict in AutoUpgradeTester/UpgradeTestBackendLXC.py15:18
shadeslayerText conflict in share/post_upgrade_tests/test_kernel.py15:18
shadeslayeryofel: were the 2 offending conflicts15:18
shadeslayereverything else merged fine15:19
* shadeslayer waves fist at es.archive.ubuntu.com15:20
ahoneybunRiddell: apachelogger is this any good to us? http://remysharp.com/downloads/wiki2html.js16:29
apacheloggerwhat for?16:30
apacheloggerohohohoh16:30
apacheloggerjussi: I almost commited your string btw16:30
apacheloggerwas using it and forgot to remove it again xD16:30
Riddellahoneybun: don't we already have a way of extracting the wiki into html?16:31
ahoneybunRiddell: seems we do..16:32
ahoneybunforgot16:32
ahoneybunbeen looking at the docbooks and stuff so much16:32
Riddellthe question is if it can be automated for the website version16:32
ahoneybunwell there must be a script that the website is using to convert them16:33
Riddellahoneybun: lp:~jr/+junk/kubuntu-docs-downloader  for the not terribly elegant code that does it currently16:33
* ahoneybun downloads it16:34
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6949654/16:35
Riddellsgclark: I seem to remember that doesn't matter, let me check16:35
Riddellsgclark: isn't it in  /usr/share/kde5/apps/kjs/create_hash_table ?16:36
sgclarkRiddell: for some reason it changed, did cmakemodules get changed?16:37
Riddellsgclark: hmm, shouldn't have done, should be set in extra-cmake-modules16:37
Riddellsgclark: ok maybe that script should be executable, in which case it probably needs dh_fixperms overridden with -X/path/to/script16:38
ahoneybunRiddell: but if we want to make snapshots then it will only needed to be exported 1) if a new language is finished 2) for a new release cycle16:40
Riddellsgclark: ok yes upstream changed DATA_INSTALL_DIR so it's just /usr/share so I guess that's fine16:40
sgclarkok16:40
Riddellahoneybun: at the momeny we just take it off the wiki every 10 minutes, that's subject to abuse though so we might want to look at doing it on demand only16:42
ahoneybunRiddell: that's what I mean only export when something new hits like a language, release, section16:43
Riddellbut first we have to get export working at all to the website :)16:43
ahoneybunwe can't just use the html we have now and put that into the website?16:47
Riddellahoneybun: we can but that's not very automated16:47
Riddellapachelogger: how did you export it?  did you have to fiddle by hand or did you use a nifty script?16:48
apacheloggerRiddell: script16:59
apacheloggerRiddell: see mails on the list16:59
Riddelloh interesting16:59
apacheloggerwiki -> xml -> docbook -> *17:00
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6949768/17:00
apacheloggereve upstream's script, I just wrote a harness around it that simplifies the xml export17:00
apachelogger*even17:00
ahoneybunapachelogger: Riddell what do you need to know about Kubuntu Teams in general>17:02
Riddellahoneybun: ?17:02
ahoneybunapachelogger: that mail to the list?17:03
ahoneybunKubuntu Policies17:03
Riddellsgclark: it says 775 isn't 75517:03
apacheloggerahoneybun: the policies are all writen :P17:03
Riddellwhich is g+x I think17:03
apacheloggerwhat one needs to know is in the policy now17:04
sgclarkRiddell: I have no idea what would cause that, only happens in pbuilder17:04
sgclarkRiddell: nor how to fix17:04
sgclarkRiddell: is it my dh_fixperms?17:04
Riddellsgclark: no, neither do I, what did you set dh_fixperms command to?17:04
sgclarkRiddell: I think  that is it, trying something17:05
sgclarkRiddell: kjs ready17:15
Riddellsgclark: just uploading your others, looking good17:17
Riddellsgclark: you didn't remove rename-kjs-binary.diff ?17:23
sgclarkRiddell: hmm I did17:23
Riddellsgclark: I think you forgot to bzr rm it, I've deleted it and uploaded17:24
sgclarkRiddell: odd, ok thank you17:24
sgclarkRiddell: I have to step away for a few, will try to finish t1 today though if you are gone when I get back, check tomorrow for email with finished list :)17:26
Riddellsgclark: you rock!17:26
sgclarkRiddell: :)17:26
Riddellsgclark: build failures on symbols https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166545902/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.kjs_4.96.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz17:31
* Riddell wanders out17:33
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shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950144/18:13
yofelo.O18:13
shadeslayeryofel: possibly my setup is screwed18:15
shadeslayerthough I don't understand how18:15
yofeltry to start the cointainer by hand, I've seen cases where lxc fails to recieve the DHCPOFFER so the container ends up without IP18:16
shadeslayerwhat's the command for that xD18:16
yofeluh, lxc-start -n <cointainer-name>18:17
yofelsudo lxc-ls will tell you what's there18:17
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6950182/18:17
yofelmeh, that looks ok :/18:18
shadeslayerindeed18:18
shadeslayersaucy backoports being copied18:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://im9.eu/picture/rl248518:22
apacheloggerit's a spaceship18:22
shadeslayeryep!18:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: oh, btw, what I never got... why the uicon with the 'i'?18:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: need help with the build issue though18:22
apacheloggerbuild issue does not compute18:22
apacheloggersupposedly yo uhave a typedef elsewhere already18:23
shadeslayeryes, but I don't include the header which has the typedef in the class header18:23
shadeslayerso why is it complaining18:23
apacheloggerI dunno18:23
apacheloggeryou only showed me one line18:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: code is pushed to kubuntu-notification-helper18:24
shadeslayerpull eet18:24
apacheloggershow me the error18:24
shadeslayeras for the 'i' , I don't have a icon without it :(18:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/ppumwopcf18:26
apacheloggerI thought jockey used one without the i18:26
apachelogger/home/shadeslayer/sauce/Kubuntu/kubuntu-notification-helper/src/daemon/driverevent/driverevent.h:33:7: error: forward declaration of ‘class QVariantMapMap’18:26
apachelogger class QVariantMapMap;18:26
apacheloggeryou cannot forward decl a typedef18:26
apacheloggerespecially not as class because typedef != class18:27
shadeslayeroh18:27
shadeslayertrue18:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: thx, fixed18:33
shadeslayeryofel: mind looking at that ssh issue?18:37
shadeslayerwhenever you have the time18:37
yofelI'll try to look at it later18:37
* shadeslayer is thinking of doing something evil18:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: that icon without the ! is a jockey specific icon18:42
apacheloggerI see18:46
DonkeyHotei[Mon 2014-02-17 12:33:25 PM PST] <DonkeyHotei> so i debootstrapped saucy then apt-get installed kubuntu-active, and upon logging in i get a white screen21:06
DonkeyHotei[Mon 2014-02-17 01:02:26 PM PST] <DonkeyHotei> lordievader: who might be knowledgeable enough to help me troubleshoot?21:06
DonkeyHotei[Mon 2014-02-17 01:04:17 PM PST] <lordievader> DonkeyHotei: I'm sorry I wouldn't know. Perhaps the devs in #kubuntu-devel know. Or they might know where you can get help.21:06
DonkeyHoteianyone?22:42
shadeslayerDonkeyHotei: sorry, I don't think anyone's working on PA423:07
shadeslayerit's not really a priority for anyone, and it's a bit of a hassle to get it integrated to be honest23:08
DonkeyHoteiso there is no free touch-ui alternative to win8 at all?23:08
shadeslayerI wouldn't say that, I'd say they're there, but at the very least no one on the Kubuntu Team has Plasma Active on priority right now23:10
shadeslayerDonkeyHotei: feel free to figure out what doesn't work and send us fixes23:11
DonkeyHoteihow do i figure out why it's just a white screen?23:11
shadeslayerDonkeyHotei: try looking in ~/.xsession-errors23:12
DonkeyHoteii would speculate something isn't installed or doesn't get started23:12
DonkeyHoteiok, ~/.xsession-errors is empty23:14
shadeslayercan you run startactive by hand23:14
shadeslayerand check the output23:14
shadeslayerif it's a "something doesn't get installed" issue, then it's a easy fix :)23:15
shadeslayerbut I think the problem is alot worse ... 23:15
DonkeyHoteifrom run it from an X session? or from recovery mode?23:15
DonkeyHotei-from23:16
shadeslayerpress ctrl+alt+f123:17
DonkeyHoteiand run it from there?23:17
shadeslayerlogin, then sudo service lightdm stop, then : sudo X :0 &, then export DISPLAY=:0; then startactive23:17
DonkeyHoteii should add that i have to plug a keyboard in to log in, no way to enter the password on the tablet otherwise23:18
shadeslayeroh, what tablet is this btw?23:19
DonkeyHoteimsi windpad 110w23:19
shadeslayerok23:20
DonkeyHoteigot a lot of output23:24
shadeslayerDonkeyHotei: concentrate on the last couple of lines ( press ctrl alt f1 again to check )23:25
DonkeyHoteii see QSQLITE driver not loaded and available drivers: QMYSQL3 QMYSQL23:25
shadeslayershould be fine23:26
shadeslayerI think ...23:26
DonkeyHoteiand then it goes on to a lot of database not found errors23:26
shadeslayerdo you still have a white screen?23:27
DonkeyHoteiblack23:28
DonkeyHoteishadeslayer: does that give any clues?23:33
shadeslayerDonkeyHotei: nope, need any errors towards the end23:34
shadeslayercheck .xsession-errors23:34
DonkeyHoteilast lines are property so and so does not exist23:36
DonkeyHoteibefore that no such signal23:36
DonkeyHoteibefore that database not open23:36
shadeslayercan you pastebin it?23:37
DonkeyHoteiway back, session d-bus connection created before QCoreApplication23:37
shadeslayerthat's fine too23:39
DonkeyHoteishadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5ui8Mq1t23:50
shadeslayerthere's some fun in there that I most certainly do not like on first look23:51
shadeslayerDonkeyHotei: but nope, I can't figure out what's causing it to not startup, maybe try #active and show them the startactive log23:54
shadeslayerpossibly they only support systemd init services ... which is why it's not working ... not sure23:55
DonkeyHotei[Mon 2014-02-17 12:30:46 PM PST] <mbohlender> DonkeyHotei: you have to talk to the kubuntu people if you have a problem with packages that they provide. 23:55
shadeslayerufff23:56
* shadeslayer looks23:56
shadeslayerI don't think it's a issue with the packages primarily since we just ship whatever upstream ships23:57
shadeslayercould be that we're missing a dependency, but that's purely because Active is so poorly documented and is mostly targetted towards Mer23:57
shadeslayerDonkeyHotei: btw this is with 13.10?23:59
DonkeyHoteisaucy23:59
shadeslayerright, 13.1023:59

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