[05:04] apachelogger: ping [09:09] manchicken: pong [09:10] apachelogger: You've got mail [09:10] I cheated with the automated tests, I used conditional friend classes :) [10:05] Riddell: plasma-nm FTBFS everywhere, are you on that? [10:06] apachelogger: hmm does it? but yes I was going to look at all those nm packages today [10:16] ScottK: did you get a chance to get debug output from the patch? [10:18] Alright, I'm gonna try to do the whole sleeping thing again. Later. [10:19] sleep, mhhh === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [10:42] ::workspace-bugs:: [1281036] Why is kdm still depending on consolekit? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1281036 (by Simon Rettberg) [10:55] shadeslayer: you didn't file an archive removel request for synaptiks? [11:05] ohohoh [11:05] need to write code oh my [11:06] shadeslayer: btw, you need to write a kns/kded module or somethign to check for properietary drivers [11:06] that feature was broken for the past 3000 years or so [11:06] it was there though ^^ [11:06] you totally got the notification once you logged out xD [11:06] well [11:06] during logout [11:28] kns seriuosly needs a rewrite [11:28] !info kns [11:28] get hot new stuff! [11:28] * jussi wonders what kns is... [11:28] Package kns does not exist in saucy [11:28] ↑ [11:31] apachelogger: I did [11:31] apachelogger: ScottK handled it [11:31] shadeslayer: please be closing bugs then [11:32] jussi: knh actually [11:32] shadeslayer: more importantly though, please be writing some notification thing [11:32] apachelogger: I'll put it on my todo for tday [11:32] apachelogger: re closing bugs, everything needs to be closed? There might be valid bugs for Saucy? [11:33] see policy [11:42] Darkwing_: happy birthday! [11:47] ::workspace-bugs:: [1281036] Why is kdm still depending on consolekit? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1281036 (by Simon Rettberg) [11:47] kubotu: order birthday package for Darkwing_ [11:47] * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. [11:47] * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to Darkwing_ and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. [11:47] Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday Darkwing_, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! [11:47] Happy Birthday Darkwing_ :D [11:47] To your health! [11:48] beer at 12:50 PM :3 [11:51] oh oh [11:51] there may be a problem with libkubuntu [11:51] BEER!!!!!!!!!!!! [11:51] apachelogger: is the problem that there is no beer? [11:52] yes [11:52] I have no beer [11:52] wtf [11:52] * apachelogger needs to get supply later [11:52] whoopwhoop [11:52] Riddell: libkubuntu may need bump to soversion2 xD [11:52] * apachelogger wanted to be cool and use a qscopedpointer [11:52] for the d_ptr [11:53] but for some reason when you try to allocate a thing that contains a qscopedpointer on the stack it falls over dead because qscopedpointer wants the private class to be declared which of course it is not [11:53] suprisingly it works when newing though [11:54] (not quite sure why it would fail to scopepoint in one case but not the other) [11:56] oh wait, now it is broken regardless [11:58] ahhh [11:58] it has to do with calling delete on the object [11:58] wtf [11:58] qscopedpointer for dptr is shit [11:58] that's what I get for trying to not write elitist code I guess :'< [12:04] apachelogger: fwiw I can't reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1280773 [12:04] Launchpad bug 1280773 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "List of drivers gets repeated" [Undecided,New] [12:05] shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/Pofwjwv.png [12:05] reset != defaults [12:05] you need to make a change, then click reset [12:06] oh [12:06] 'Morning folks [12:06] apachelogger: Do I actually have to apply the change [12:07] or just click another radio button [12:19] shadeslayer: another radio button [12:19] if you apply the change you can't reset AFAIK [12:20] ahh [12:20] got [12:20] *got it [12:33] http://i.imgur.com/EOjjJrR.png [12:33] someone please come up with a better string [12:33] jussi: halp [12:34] apachelogger: "dude, you cant youse it without all the bitz!!!!!" ? [12:40] much better, thx [12:45] apachelogger: "Language support is incomplete, install remaining language packs" ? [12:47] Riddell: "Language support is incomplete, additional packages required" [12:48] actually I would still call it software rather than packages TBH [12:48] packages is already very specific [12:53] "language packs" I'm pretty sure that's used in other places like Windows too [12:54] apachelogger: Did't see the patch. [13:00] Riddell: it might not only be language packs [13:00] Riddell: we also install dictionaries and stuff [13:00] ScottK: ScottK: to be save though, if you could send me a screenshot of the 'mark additional changes' dialog it would be good [13:00] ScottK: also here's a patch for qapt that adds debug on change detection, shoudl also help to pin point the exact problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/6930395/ [13:00] "Language support is incomplete, install remaining language support" ? [13:01] that sounds weird [13:01] * apachelogger found a grave bug :O [13:02] or not [13:02] man that parsing code is shit [13:14] Riddell: there really was a bug with support detection and en_GB [13:14] was using the wrong of the 3 codes -.- [13:14] void Kubuntu::LanguagePrivate::possiblyAddMissingPackage(const QString&) "kde-l10n-engb" [13:14] found missing package "kde-l10n-engb" [13:14] much better now [13:15] oh well don't worry too much, after september we'll get a new country code anyway [13:15] ^^ [13:16] it's highly annoying that we have 3 strings to express the same thing though [13:16] so very annoying [13:16] zh_TW essentially is the same [13:32] * apachelogger wonders why JT hand crafted a qapt GUI in knh === Pici` is now known as Pici [13:41] shadeslayer: did you actually get anywhere with your qapt->plasma thing? [13:41] * apachelogger ponders how to present language install [13:51] waaah, the code [13:51] such terrible. [13:53] Riddell: did you get my email with the packages I finished? [13:54] m_hiddenCfgString = QString("hide" % m_name % "Notifier"); [13:54] fanciest thing I have seen today [13:55] makes no sense, but very fancy [14:03] apachelogger: not really [14:03] it stopped working for some reason [14:03] and I don't have the code anymore [14:03] nevermind then [14:04] Riddell: notification-helper pushed, requires libkubuntu from git master [14:04] would be lovely ifyou could test [14:05] UX is not the best I could imagine but qapt-batch is plenty cheap in terms of code [14:06] anyone who hasn't filled out the discover featured apps form yet and wants to? [14:06] closing in 3 hours other wise [14:07] I have [14:07] currently we are looking at 5 apps: digikam > kdeconnect > amarok | chromium | vlc [14:09] oh my [14:09] I know why qscopedpointer acted [14:09] up [14:10] <- too stupid to define a dtor [14:10] yofel: ping [14:10] hm? [14:10] yofel: do you still have configs for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/UpgradeTestingSetup [14:11] hm, didn't we put those somewhere on lp? [14:12] can't find on my page, or on kubuntu-dev or on kubuntu-packagers [14:12] shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/auto-upgrade-testing/auto-upgrade-testing ? [14:12] heers [14:12] *cheers [14:15] join #ubuntu-devel [14:15] pft [14:15] what an IRC noob :P [14:17] sgclark: yes I did thanks, should look at those shortly [14:22] Riddell, shadeslayer: lts policy was written meanwhile if you want to pre-review that before I submit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Policies#Long_Term_Support_.28LTS.29 [14:22] not today [14:22] going to submit for approval in 3 hours or so [14:23] apachelogger: submit to where? [14:25] Riddell: add kglobalaccel to that list [14:27] Riddell: list [14:43] Riddell: kguiaddons [14:51] is my bluetooth supposed to be working ... somethimes it show in tray and sometimes not... when not it say there is nno adapter in system settings? [14:53] that's about what I get :( seems to be something low level [14:53] ok - as long as someone knows I don't have to learn how to do a bug report - lol [14:54] Riddell, we discussed this recently - you told me about bluedevil? (sanity check) [14:57] Riddell: did you get the bluez issue worked out? As far as I see bluedevil can't possibly be working in trusty [14:58] yofel: uh oh, why not? [14:58] Riddell: because bluedevil2 only works with bluez5? (AFAIK) [14:58] yofel: I reverted back to 1.3.2 [14:59] oh ok, then my cache is out of date [14:59] nvm [15:02] Riddell: kidletime [15:10] hmm, new libmodemmanager qt is not binary compatible but has same soname [15:15] Riddell: kimageformats [15:16] go go sgclark! [15:16] yofel: so .. : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/auto-upgrade-testing/auto-upgrade-testing/revision/103 [15:16] now to figure out if things still work :PO [15:17] I'll look at it once I'm home ^^ [15:18] cheers :) [15:18] yofel: fyi : Text conflict in AutoUpgradeTester/UpgradeTestBackendLXC.py [15:18] Text conflict in share/post_upgrade_tests/test_kernel.py [15:18] yofel: were the 2 offending conflicts [15:19] everything else merged fine [15:20] * shadeslayer waves fist at es.archive.ubuntu.com [16:29] Riddell: apachelogger is this any good to us? http://remysharp.com/downloads/wiki2html.js [16:30] what for? [16:30] ohohohoh [16:30] jussi: I almost commited your string btw [16:30] was using it and forgot to remove it again xD [16:31] ahoneybun: don't we already have a way of extracting the wiki into html? [16:32] Riddell: seems we do.. [16:32] forgot [16:32] been looking at the docbooks and stuff so much [16:32] the question is if it can be automated for the website version [16:33] well there must be a script that the website is using to convert them [16:33] ahoneybun: lp:~jr/+junk/kubuntu-docs-downloader for the not terribly elegant code that does it currently [16:34] * ahoneybun downloads it [16:35] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6949654/ [16:35] sgclark: I seem to remember that doesn't matter, let me check [16:36] sgclark: isn't it in /usr/share/kde5/apps/kjs/create_hash_table ? [16:37] Riddell: for some reason it changed, did cmakemodules get changed? [16:37] sgclark: hmm, shouldn't have done, should be set in extra-cmake-modules [16:38] sgclark: ok maybe that script should be executable, in which case it probably needs dh_fixperms overridden with -X/path/to/script [16:40] Riddell: but if we want to make snapshots then it will only needed to be exported 1) if a new language is finished 2) for a new release cycle [16:40] sgclark: ok yes upstream changed DATA_INSTALL_DIR so it's just /usr/share so I guess that's fine [16:40] ok [16:42] ahoneybun: at the momeny we just take it off the wiki every 10 minutes, that's subject to abuse though so we might want to look at doing it on demand only [16:43] Riddell: that's what I mean only export when something new hits like a language, release, section [16:43] but first we have to get export working at all to the website :) [16:47] we can't just use the html we have now and put that into the website? [16:47] ahoneybun: we can but that's not very automated [16:48] apachelogger: how did you export it? did you have to fiddle by hand or did you use a nifty script? [16:59] Riddell: script [16:59] Riddell: see mails on the list [16:59] oh interesting [17:00] wiki -> xml -> docbook -> * [17:00] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6949768/ [17:00] eve upstream's script, I just wrote a harness around it that simplifies the xml export [17:00] *even [17:02] apachelogger: Riddell what do you need to know about Kubuntu Teams in general> [17:02] ahoneybun: ? [17:03] apachelogger: that mail to the list? [17:03] Kubuntu Policies [17:03] sgclark: it says 775 isn't 755 [17:03] ahoneybun: the policies are all writen :P [17:03] which is g+x I think [17:04] what one needs to know is in the policy now [17:04] Riddell: I have no idea what would cause that, only happens in pbuilder [17:04] Riddell: nor how to fix [17:04] Riddell: is it my dh_fixperms? [17:04] sgclark: no, neither do I, what did you set dh_fixperms command to? [17:05] Riddell: I think that is it, trying something [17:15] Riddell: kjs ready [17:17] sgclark: just uploading your others, looking good [17:23] sgclark: you didn't remove rename-kjs-binary.diff ? [17:23] Riddell: hmm I did [17:24] sgclark: I think you forgot to bzr rm it, I've deleted it and uploaded [17:24] Riddell: odd, ok thank you [17:26] Riddell: I have to step away for a few, will try to finish t1 today though if you are gone when I get back, check tomorrow for email with finished list :) [17:26] sgclark: you rock! [17:26] Riddell: :) [17:31] sgclark: build failures on symbols https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166545902/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.kjs_4.96.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [17:33] * Riddell wanders out === jono is now known as Guest43181 === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [18:13] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950144/ [18:13] o.O [18:15] yofel: possibly my setup is screwed [18:15] though I don't understand how [18:16] try to start the cointainer by hand, I've seen cases where lxc fails to recieve the DHCPOFFER so the container ends up without IP [18:16] what's the command for that xD [18:17] uh, lxc-start -n [18:17] sudo lxc-ls will tell you what's there [18:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950182/ [18:18] meh, that looks ok :/ [18:18] indeed [18:19] saucy backoports being copied [18:22] apachelogger: http://im9.eu/picture/rl2485 [18:22] it's a spaceship [18:22] yep! [18:22] shadeslayer: oh, btw, what I never got... why the uicon with the 'i'? [18:22] apachelogger: need help with the build issue though [18:22] build issue does not compute [18:23] supposedly yo uhave a typedef elsewhere already [18:23] yes, but I don't include the header which has the typedef in the class header [18:23] so why is it complaining [18:23] I dunno [18:23] you only showed me one line [18:24] apachelogger: code is pushed to kubuntu-notification-helper [18:24] pull eet [18:24] show me the error [18:25] as for the 'i' , I don't have a icon without it :( [18:26] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/ppumwopcf [18:26] I thought jockey used one without the i [18:26] /home/shadeslayer/sauce/Kubuntu/kubuntu-notification-helper/src/daemon/driverevent/driverevent.h:33:7: error: forward declaration of ‘class QVariantMapMap’ [18:26] class QVariantMapMap; [18:26] you cannot forward decl a typedef [18:27] especially not as class because typedef != class [18:27] oh [18:27] true [18:33] apachelogger: thx, fixed [18:37] yofel: mind looking at that ssh issue? [18:37] whenever you have the time [18:37] I'll try to look at it later [18:39] * shadeslayer is thinking of doing something evil [18:42] apachelogger: that icon without the ! is a jockey specific icon [18:46] I see [21:06] [Mon 2014-02-17 12:33:25 PM PST] so i debootstrapped saucy then apt-get installed kubuntu-active, and upon logging in i get a white screen [21:06] [Mon 2014-02-17 01:02:26 PM PST] lordievader: who might be knowledgeable enough to help me troubleshoot? [21:06] [Mon 2014-02-17 01:04:17 PM PST] DonkeyHotei: I'm sorry I wouldn't know. Perhaps the devs in #kubuntu-devel know. Or they might know where you can get help. [22:42] anyone? [23:07] DonkeyHotei: sorry, I don't think anyone's working on PA4 [23:08] it's not really a priority for anyone, and it's a bit of a hassle to get it integrated to be honest [23:08] so there is no free touch-ui alternative to win8 at all? [23:10] I wouldn't say that, I'd say they're there, but at the very least no one on the Kubuntu Team has Plasma Active on priority right now [23:11] DonkeyHotei: feel free to figure out what doesn't work and send us fixes [23:11] how do i figure out why it's just a white screen? [23:12] DonkeyHotei: try looking in ~/.xsession-errors [23:12] i would speculate something isn't installed or doesn't get started [23:14] ok, ~/.xsession-errors is empty [23:14] can you run startactive by hand [23:14] and check the output [23:15] if it's a "something doesn't get installed" issue, then it's a easy fix :) [23:15] but I think the problem is alot worse ... [23:15] from run it from an X session? or from recovery mode? [23:16] -from [23:17] press ctrl+alt+f1 [23:17] and run it from there? [23:17] login, then sudo service lightdm stop, then : sudo X :0 &, then export DISPLAY=:0; then startactive [23:18] i should add that i have to plug a keyboard in to log in, no way to enter the password on the tablet otherwise [23:19] oh, what tablet is this btw? [23:19] msi windpad 110w [23:20] ok [23:24] got a lot of output [23:25] DonkeyHotei: concentrate on the last couple of lines ( press ctrl alt f1 again to check ) [23:25] i see QSQLITE driver not loaded and available drivers: QMYSQL3 QMYSQL [23:26] should be fine [23:26] I think ... [23:26] and then it goes on to a lot of database not found errors [23:27] do you still have a white screen? [23:28] black [23:33] shadeslayer: does that give any clues? [23:34] DonkeyHotei: nope, need any errors towards the end [23:34] check .xsession-errors [23:36] last lines are property so and so does not exist [23:36] before that no such signal [23:36] before that database not open [23:37] can you pastebin it? [23:37] way back, session d-bus connection created before QCoreApplication [23:39] that's fine too [23:50] shadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5ui8Mq1t [23:51] there's some fun in there that I most certainly do not like on first look [23:54] DonkeyHotei: but nope, I can't figure out what's causing it to not startup, maybe try #active and show them the startactive log [23:55] possibly they only support systemd init services ... which is why it's not working ... not sure [23:55] [Mon 2014-02-17 12:30:46 PM PST] DonkeyHotei: you have to talk to the kubuntu people if you have a problem with packages that they provide. [23:56] ufff [23:56] * shadeslayer looks [23:57] I don't think it's a issue with the packages primarily since we just ship whatever upstream ships [23:57] could be that we're missing a dependency, but that's purely because Active is so poorly documented and is mostly targetted towards Mer [23:59] DonkeyHotei: btw this is with 13.10? [23:59] saucy [23:59] right, 13.10