[01:09] <basketball> is todays current build stable
[01:15] <basketball> is there a torent for ubuntu 14.04
[01:15] <basketball> daily
[01:17] <Daekdroom> There isn't any .torrent in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:17] <Daekdroom> (and it sorta makes sense there isn't a torrent for daily, given it changes.. erm... daily, and there is no point in seeding things that will be obsolete within a day)
[01:18] <basketball> so once i download it will there be a way to have it update automattically or will i have to redownload it
[01:18] <Daekdroom> Run the update manager and you should be fine
[01:19] <Daekdroom> Alternatively, 'sudo apt-get update' followed by 'sudo apt-get upgrade' (you'll eventually need 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade')
[01:28] <basketball> ok how do i burn it to a cd once it downloads
[01:34] <IdleOne> you can't. The iso is too big for a cd, you could use a DVD or USB
[01:34] <IdleOne> !usb
[01:37] <IdleOne> you might want to also take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Burning_the_ISO_on_to_a_DVD
[01:44] <basketball> !dvd
[01:44] <basketball> !install-dvd
 IdleOne,  SCSI error on write(36592,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 4 "Drive error", ASC 03 ASCQ 00.
 when burning to dv
[02:07] <basketball> IdleOne,  ^^^ Daekdroom
[02:11] <basketball> rww,  <basketball>   SCSI error on write(36592,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 4 "Drive error", ASC 03 ASCQ 00.when burning to dv
[02:29] <basketball> SCSI error on write(138304,16): [4 09 01] Drive error. Tracking servo failure.  when dfownloading
[02:37] <TJ-> basketball: two things: 1) the DVD drive possibly needs a firmware update 2) reduce the write-speed multiplier to make the write more reliable
[02:41] <basketball> how do i do that
[03:05] <ThomasB> Rhythmbox needs last.fm scrobbling
[03:05] <ThomasB> and it needs it now
[03:57] <AussieDownUnder> G'day. Just installed a fresh xubuntu 14.04 alpha 2 & first thing I've noticed is that when you drag a windows to the top of the screen it doesn't maximize to the whole screen, it maximizes horizontally okay but vertically it only fills half of the screen.
[04:45] <AussieDownUnder> What's the go in xubuntu 14.04 with no option in the properties of a file to run it as an executable?
[07:02] <TheDrums> AussieDownUnder: THe first one, where it maximizes like that is an xfwm4 thing, not actually a mistake as it was designed like that.
[07:09] <AussieDownUnder> TheDrums, can I set it to fully maximise then?
[07:09] <TheDrums> Sadly no, not at this time.  IIRC there is an upstream bug report about it though.
[07:10] <AussieDownUnder> TheDrums, umm whoops I thought you were replying to another question I asked elsewhere sorry
[07:11] <TheDrums> AussieDownUnder: The question about dragging something to the top of the screen, that's the one I answered. :)
[07:39] <AussieDownUnder> thedrums, oh yeah sorry I'm losing track of what I've asked, I'm on different channels (not asking the same thing) asking about a heap of things.
[07:41] <AussieDownUnder> thedrums, where would the best place be to post reports about bugs or suggestions? Is there something in the alpha for doing either of those?
[07:43] <elfy> AussieDownUnder: this 'alpha' of your's - have you been updating it and upgrading as packages come through?
[07:43] <elfy> or is it still as it was when you got it?
[07:43] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, I installed it today & let it update
[07:45] <elfy> then it's not an alpha anymore - it's the same as the current daily :)
[07:45] <elfy> report bugs on the tracker
[07:45] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, oh wow nice. Let me noob up a storm in here, what tracker & how?
[07:46] <elfy> you got a launchpad account?
[07:47] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, sure do
[07:47] <elfy> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
[07:48] <elfy> login to that - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds
[07:48] <elfy> rather :)
[07:48] <elfy> then pick the flavour
[07:48] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, so should I be reporting since I'm on the xubuntu 14.04?
[07:48] <AussieDownUnder> oh
[07:48] <elfy> AussieDownUnder: actually - I'm waking up still here - what sort of bug?
[07:49] <elfy> AussieDownUnder: this is the +1 channel - NOT just ubuntu :)
[07:49] <elfy> AussieDownUnder: because that might be the wrong place to report - depending on the bug
[07:49] <elfy> if it is one of our packages there is somewhere else to do it
[07:51] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, no bugs yet I'm pretty sure, was just preparing for the future of a possible bug, but yeah my main query so far was when windows only half fill the screen when you drag something to the side/top of the screen like in ubuntu  then it usually maximises the application
[07:51] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, not sure if that's only happening in xubuntu or ubuntu as well.
[07:52] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, also will this version of 14.04 I have installed now automatically be updated to release version?
[07:52] <elfy> it will update if you update it :)
[07:52] <elfy> my main query so far was when windows only half fill the screen when you drag something to the side/top of the screen
[07:53] <elfy> that is normal ^^
[07:53] <elfy> package bugs for us can be reported here if there is a test for it http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
[07:53] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, but I want it to fill into the whole screen like ubuntu or windows whaaaaaa
[07:53] <elfy> and if you have queries regarding our stuff feel free to talk to me as well
[07:54] <elfy> AussieDownUnder: I want a £1,000,000 but I'm not going to get it ;)
[07:54] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, I'll send you a million pounds......of sand
[07:54] <elfy> right - that helps :p
[07:55] <AussieDownUnder> You might be able to make it into a heap of glassware & sell it to make more then a million pounds, then you can invest & buy more send then multiply into a billion dollar business.
[07:55] <AussieDownUnder> more sand*
[07:57] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, I had another question but can't remember it now. Oh would here be the appropriate place to find out how to properly delete all the other o/s's off of the same hardrive I have 14.04 on? I have ubuntu studio 12.04, ubuntu 12.04 & random empty partitions. I'd like to keep 14.04 as the main & wipe the rest into one clean partition or at least just 2 partitions, one for the 14.04 & the rest for storage
[07:59] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, I've deleted 2 o/s's off already but everytime I do I have to run boot-repair. I was thinking of wiping it, rearranging it in disk utility & then running boot-repair before I restart. I just don't really want to format the drive & start over again even though I'm good at starting over.
[08:00] <elfy> well personally I'd just redo it all - but then I'm doing that constantly anyway
[08:01] <elfy> but if you don't want to - and if you keep having to use bootrepair I'd guess that you've got issues with grub not installed in the right place
[08:02] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, I probably will, would be nice to push one button & reinstall all the custom ppa stuff, pretty sure I've forgotton half the stuff I had installed on my old main ubuntu. Be nice to somehow sync that kind of stuff on the ubuntu cloud & get an option to reinstall it
[08:02] <elfy> when you boot - is 14.04 at the top of the list - or is it one of your other installs
[08:02] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, yeah top of the list
[08:02] <rww> boot from LiveCD, gparted or whatever to delete everything that isn't 14.04, chroot into the 14.04 partition, edit grub config if necessary, update-grub
[08:03] <elfy> rww: yep
[08:03] <elfy> anyway AussieDownUnder - I'm off now - back later
[08:03] <AussieDownUnder> rww, would the live 14.04 usb be fine for that?
[08:03] <AussieDownUnder> elfy, okay thanks for your time
[08:03] <rww> yes
[08:10] <AussieDownUnder> I really do hate whenever you install a linux distro that it changes the grub to its own. I liked the fancy one that desktop-xubuntu installed on my ubuntu.
[08:14] <elfy> if you don't accept the defaults then it will install grub where you tell it to - then you can update-grub from the main one and it will find the newer one - do it all the time here
[09:01] <jo-erlend> do we have computer vision installed by default in Ubuntu now? I can't remember having installed it. And if so; what is it needed for?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:56] <ikonia> !info minidlna
[16:41] <jack> running xubuntu-trusty
[16:41] <jack> no breakages so far
[16:44] <jack> can anyone recommend a better mp3 player than clementine?
[16:53] <BLZbubba_> thank you for ending this 4 year nightmare.  I am so glad upstart is on its way out... when 10.04 came out I switched my ubuntu servers to centos.  I can't wait to give the next LTS release a try
[16:53] <BLZbubba_> once ubuntu boots it is a better server, but with upstart you could never be sure it would ever boot up
[17:39] <randomcpp> hi, why is it required to install unity8 with the latest update?
[17:52] <kblin> BLZbubba_: you're aware that 14.04 will still ship with upstart, right?
[19:36] <BLZbubba_> kblin: you're shitting me, that means 2 more years of pain
[19:36] <BLZbubba_> better late than never, I guess :(
[19:41] <kblin> BLZbubba_: If I read that blog entry from shuttleworth correctly, 14.04 will still have upstart
[19:41] <kblin> BLZbubba_: I expect 14.04 to be frozen enough to not pull and replace the init system now
[19:41] <popey> kblin: correct
[19:42] <popey> and probably 14.10 will also have upstart
[19:43] <jack> url?
[19:44] <yofel> jack: if you mean the blog entry: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
[19:45] <kblin> heck, whatever you have against upstart, I wouldn't want to run a distro where somebody replaced pid 1 two months before release
[19:46] <kblin> that's quite a larger change than deciding to go for a new version of firefox or the like
[19:47] <jack> thx
[20:06] <nvrpunk> anyone get transparency working in gnome-terminal in tahr?
[20:06] <u-foka> nvrpunk, worksforme
[20:14] <nvrpunk> where are private keys stored?
[20:14] <nvrpunk> for gpg
[20:14] <Pici> ~/.gnupg
[20:21] <BLZbubba_> kblin: i would agree with you if upstart weren't so terrible.  it is possible to install both and move services away from upstart over time (e.g. how EL6 did it)
[20:22] <BLZbubba_> but my 8.04 updates are going to go away before 16.04 comes out
[20:22] <BLZbubba_> so i'm in a bind now
[20:23] <BLZbubba_> they are already gone really but i'll try el7 before 14.04