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basketballis todays current build stable01:09
basketballis there a torent for ubuntu 14.0401:15
basketballdaily01:15
DaekdroomThere isn't any .torrent in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/01:17
Daekdroom(and it sorta makes sense there isn't a torrent for daily, given it changes.. erm... daily, and there is no point in seeding things that will be obsolete within a day)01:17
basketballso once i download it will there be a way to have it update automattically or will i have to redownload it01:18
DaekdroomRun the update manager and you should be fine01:18
DaekdroomAlternatively, 'sudo apt-get update' followed by 'sudo apt-get upgrade' (you'll eventually need 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade')01:19
basketballok how do i burn it to a cd once it downloads01:28
IdleOneyou can't. The iso is too big for a cd, you could use a DVD or USB01:34
IdleOne!usb01:34
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent01:34
IdleOneyou might want to also take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Burning_the_ISO_on_to_a_DVD01:37
basketball!dvd01:44
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:44
basketball!install-dvd01:44
basketball<basketball> IdleOne,  SCSI error on write(36592,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 4 "Drive error", ASC 03 ASCQ 00.02:03
basketball<basketball> when burning to dv02:03
basketballIdleOne,  ^^^ Daekdroom02:07
basketballrww,  <basketball>   SCSI error on write(36592,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 4 "Drive error", ASC 03 ASCQ 00.when burning to dv02:11
basketballSCSI error on write(138304,16): [4 09 01] Drive error. Tracking servo failure.  when dfownloading02:29
TJ-basketball: two things: 1) the DVD drive possibly needs a firmware update 2) reduce the write-speed multiplier to make the write more reliable02:37
basketballhow do i do that02:41
ThomasBRhythmbox needs last.fm scrobbling03:05
ThomasBand it needs it now03:05
AussieDownUnderG'day. Just installed a fresh xubuntu 14.04 alpha 2 & first thing I've noticed is that when you drag a windows to the top of the screen it doesn't maximize to the whole screen, it maximizes horizontally okay but vertically it only fills half of the screen.03:57
AussieDownUnderWhat's the go in xubuntu 14.04 with no option in the properties of a file to run it as an executable?04:45
TheDrumsAussieDownUnder: THe first one, where it maximizes like that is an xfwm4 thing, not actually a mistake as it was designed like that.07:02
AussieDownUnderTheDrums, can I set it to fully maximise then?07:09
TheDrumsSadly no, not at this time.  IIRC there is an upstream bug report about it though.07:09
AussieDownUnderTheDrums, umm whoops I thought you were replying to another question I asked elsewhere sorry07:10
TheDrumsAussieDownUnder: The question about dragging something to the top of the screen, that's the one I answered. :)07:11
AussieDownUnderthedrums, oh yeah sorry I'm losing track of what I've asked, I'm on different channels (not asking the same thing) asking about a heap of things.07:39
AussieDownUnderthedrums, where would the best place be to post reports about bugs or suggestions? Is there something in the alpha for doing either of those?07:41
elfyAussieDownUnder: this 'alpha' of your's - have you been updating it and upgrading as packages come through?07:43
elfyor is it still as it was when you got it?07:43
AussieDownUnderelfy, I installed it today & let it update07:43
elfythen it's not an alpha anymore - it's the same as the current daily :)07:45
elfyreport bugs on the tracker07:45
AussieDownUnderelfy, oh wow nice. Let me noob up a storm in here, what tracker & how?07:45
elfyyou got a launchpad account?07:46
AussieDownUnderelfy, sure do07:47
elfyhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker07:47
elfylogin to that - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds07:48
elfyrather :)07:48
elfythen pick the flavour07:48
AussieDownUnderelfy, so should I be reporting since I'm on the xubuntu 14.04?07:48
AussieDownUnderoh07:48
elfyAussieDownUnder: actually - I'm waking up still here - what sort of bug?07:48
elfyAussieDownUnder: this is the +1 channel - NOT just ubuntu :)07:49
elfyAussieDownUnder: because that might be the wrong place to report - depending on the bug07:49
elfyif it is one of our packages there is somewhere else to do it07:49
AussieDownUnderelfy, no bugs yet I'm pretty sure, was just preparing for the future of a possible bug, but yeah my main query so far was when windows only half fill the screen when you drag something to the side/top of the screen like in ubuntu  then it usually maximises the application07:51
AussieDownUnderelfy, not sure if that's only happening in xubuntu or ubuntu as well.07:51
AussieDownUnderelfy, also will this version of 14.04 I have installed now automatically be updated to release version?07:52
elfyit will update if you update it :)07:52
elfymy main query so far was when windows only half fill the screen when you drag something to the side/top of the screen07:52
elfythat is normal ^^07:53
elfypackage bugs for us can be reported here if there is a test for it http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker07:53
AussieDownUnderelfy, but I want it to fill into the whole screen like ubuntu or windows whaaaaaa07:53
elfyand if you have queries regarding our stuff feel free to talk to me as well07:53
elfyAussieDownUnder: I want a £1,000,000 but I'm not going to get it ;)07:54
AussieDownUnderelfy, I'll send you a million pounds......of sand07:54
elfyright - that helps :p07:54
AussieDownUnderYou might be able to make it into a heap of glassware & sell it to make more then a million pounds, then you can invest & buy more send then multiply into a billion dollar business.07:55
AussieDownUndermore sand*07:55
AussieDownUnderelfy, I had another question but can't remember it now. Oh would here be the appropriate place to find out how to properly delete all the other o/s's off of the same hardrive I have 14.04 on? I have ubuntu studio 12.04, ubuntu 12.04 & random empty partitions. I'd like to keep 14.04 as the main & wipe the rest into one clean partition or at least just 2 partitions, one for the 14.04 & the rest for storage07:57
AussieDownUnderelfy, I've deleted 2 o/s's off already but everytime I do I have to run boot-repair. I was thinking of wiping it, rearranging it in disk utility & then running boot-repair before I restart. I just don't really want to format the drive & start over again even though I'm good at starting over.07:59
elfywell personally I'd just redo it all - but then I'm doing that constantly anyway08:00
elfybut if you don't want to - and if you keep having to use bootrepair I'd guess that you've got issues with grub not installed in the right place08:01
AussieDownUnderelfy, I probably will, would be nice to push one button & reinstall all the custom ppa stuff, pretty sure I've forgotton half the stuff I had installed on my old main ubuntu. Be nice to somehow sync that kind of stuff on the ubuntu cloud & get an option to reinstall it08:02
elfywhen you boot - is 14.04 at the top of the list - or is it one of your other installs08:02
AussieDownUnderelfy, yeah top of the list08:02
rwwboot from LiveCD, gparted or whatever to delete everything that isn't 14.04, chroot into the 14.04 partition, edit grub config if necessary, update-grub08:02
elfyrww: yep08:03
elfyanyway AussieDownUnder - I'm off now - back later08:03
AussieDownUnderrww, would the live 14.04 usb be fine for that?08:03
AussieDownUnderelfy, okay thanks for your time08:03
rwwyes08:03
AussieDownUnderI really do hate whenever you install a linux distro that it changes the grub to its own. I liked the fancy one that desktop-xubuntu installed on my ubuntu.08:10
elfyif you don't accept the defaults then it will install grub where you tell it to - then you can update-grub from the main one and it will find the newer one - do it all the time here08:14
jo-erlenddo we have computer vision installed by default in Ubuntu now? I can't remember having installed it. And if so; what is it needed for?09:01
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:07
ikonia!info minidlna12:56
ubottuminidlna (source: minidlna): lightweight DLNA/UPnP-AV server targeted at embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.24+dfsg-1 (trusty), package size 142 kB, installed size 362 kB12:56
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jackrunning xubuntu-trusty16:41
jackno breakages so far16:41
jackcan anyone recommend a better mp3 player than clementine?16:44
BLZbubba_thank you for ending this 4 year nightmare.  I am so glad upstart is on its way out... when 10.04 came out I switched my ubuntu servers to centos.  I can't wait to give the next LTS release a try16:53
BLZbubba_once ubuntu boots it is a better server, but with upstart you could never be sure it would ever boot up16:53
randomcpphi, why is it required to install unity8 with the latest update?17:39
kblinBLZbubba_: you're aware that 14.04 will still ship with upstart, right?17:52
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BLZbubba_kblin: you're shitting me, that means 2 more years of pain19:36
BLZbubba_better late than never, I guess :(19:36
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kblinBLZbubba_: If I read that blog entry from shuttleworth correctly, 14.04 will still have upstart19:41
kblinBLZbubba_: I expect 14.04 to be frozen enough to not pull and replace the init system now19:41
popeykblin: correct19:41
popeyand probably 14.10 will also have upstart19:42
jackurl?19:43
yofeljack: if you mean the blog entry: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/131619:44
kblinheck, whatever you have against upstart, I wouldn't want to run a distro where somebody replaced pid 1 two months before release19:45
kblinthat's quite a larger change than deciding to go for a new version of firefox or the like19:46
jackthx19:47
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nvrpunkanyone get transparency working in gnome-terminal in tahr?20:06
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u-fokanvrpunk, worksforme20:06
nvrpunkwhere are private keys stored?20:14
nvrpunkfor gpg20:14
Pici~/.gnupg20:14
BLZbubba_kblin: i would agree with you if upstart weren't so terrible.  it is possible to install both and move services away from upstart over time (e.g. how EL6 did it)20:21
BLZbubba_but my 8.04 updates are going to go away before 16.04 comes out20:22
BLZbubba_so i'm in a bind now20:22
BLZbubba_they are already gone really but i'll try el7 before 14.0420:23
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