[08:58] <mpt> seb128, I commented on bug 1280274, thanks for the pointer.
[08:58] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1280274 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "The control panel includes a switch without description" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1280274
[09:03] <Laney> morning!
[09:03] <seb128> mpt, hey, thanks!
[09:03] <seb128> Laney, good morning!
[09:03] <seb128> happy monday desktopers!
[09:06] <Laney> hey seb128, wie gehts?
[09:07] <larsu> morning Laney!
[09:07] <seb128> Laney, gut, danke! und dir?
[09:08] <Laney> sehr gut
[09:08] <Laney> hallo larsu, guten morgen
[09:09] <Laney> Subject: Jenkins Failure - trusty-adt-glib2.0 76 nicht gut :(
[09:10] <Laney> oh, just test env brekage
[09:11] <seb128> Laney, jenkins is talking german to you now? ;-)
[09:11] <Laney> blame pitti :P
[09:48] <seb128> Laney,
[09:48] <seb128> cairo (1.13.0~20140204-0ubuntu1) trusty; urgency=medium
[09:49] <seb128> .symbols,  cairo_surface_get_device_scale@Base 1.13.0~
[09:49] <seb128> Laney, does that seems right for versioning a git cairo snapshot?
[09:49] <seb128> they don't have a 1.13 tarball yet, I expect the first one to be 1.13.0
[09:50] <Laney> it's about what depends version should a package get if it uses that symbol
[09:50] <Laney> I'd probably use the full upstream part
[09:50] <seb128> 1.13.0~20140204
[09:50] <seb128> ?
[09:50] <Laney> yeah
[09:51] <seb128> done, thanks
[09:51] <Laney> so then if you take another snapshot with more symbols then it can have a higher version there
[09:52] <seb128> right
[10:12] <xnox> seb128: i see that there are two branches of unity-settings-daemon merged, is there a silo i need to test before it lands into the archive?
[10:13] <seb128> xnox, no, that's not a #ps project/under CI, feel free to just use good old dput there
[10:13] <xnox> seb128: oh, i thought it was under ci-train...
[10:14] <seb128> xnox, no, it's under ci/automerger, but that's it, no train for it
[10:14] <xnox> seb128: ack.
[10:19] <Laney> wait
[10:19] <Laney> last week we said we'd keep the legacy keygrabber in there
[10:20] <seb128> Laney, ?
[10:20] <Laney> what?
[10:20] <seb128> Laney, what do you say that? is somebody dropping the grabber?
[10:21] <seb128> why*
[10:21] <seb128> ECONTEXT to understand your comment
[10:21] <Laney> oh
[10:22] <Laney> https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-settings-daemon/gnome-key-grabber/+merge/206033
[10:22] <seb128> the 2 commits in trunk are a session and a notify-osd one
[10:22] <seb128> looking
[10:22] <seb128> oh, yeah, that looks wrong
[10:23] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~unity-settings-daemon-team/+members#active
[10:23] <Laney> look at this cabal!
[10:24] <seb128> ;-)
[10:25] <seb128> session restart, brb
[10:27] <Laney> seb128: are you commenting there?
[10:28] <seb128> Laney, can do
[10:28] <Laney> cool
[10:36] <xnox> Laney: seb128: the unity portion of key-grabbing seems to be merge in unity already.
[10:37] <seb128> xnox, the issue is that u-s-d is going to be used for e.g gnome-panel users and they might run xmonad for example, which doesn't have a grabber
[10:38] <xnox> seb128: my understanding was that u-s-d is only going to be supported under unity.
[10:38] <xnox> seb128: other DEs (or half DEs will use g-s-d)
[10:38] <Laney> let's not go over it all again please
[10:39] <xnox> seb128: and in fact Laney and I wrote upstart job to not start u-s-d....
[10:39] <xnox> =)
[10:39] <seb128> xnox, read backlog from friday(?) on this channel, but basically edubuntu etc are closer from Unity than GNOME and we want to keep being nice to them, at least for the LTS
[10:39] <xnox> seb128: ah.
[10:39] <xnox> seb128: ok.
[10:39] <seb128> that code is there, it doesn't cost a lot to keep it for the LTS
[10:40] <Laney> we'll have to alter the jobs as needed, but the scheme we came up with there is decent
[10:46] <xnox> Laney: ack.
[11:40] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, cairo 1.13 git snapshot is in trusty, just for info
[11:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks for your help with the upload last  Friday!
[11:46] <seb128> GunnarHj, yw!
[11:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: As a reward you are invited to add a line to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj/PPUApplication_ubuntu-docs ;-) (i.e. if you think you have a base for saying anything at all)
[11:46] <seb128> k
[11:47] <GunnarHj> seb128: TIA
[12:09] <seb128> didrocks, sil2100, mhr3, unity migrated to release pocket, you can add the next stuff
[12:09] <mhr3> sil2100, silo, silo, silo! :)
[12:10] <sil2100> ;) Doing!
[12:10]  * sil2100 needs to merge&clean first
[12:11] <sil2100> seb128: thanks for keeping us up to date!
[12:11] <seb128> shrug
[12:11] <seb128> sil2100, yw
[12:11] <seb128> bah, gdoc oops again
[12:11] <seb128> I hope it's not going to loose my line :p
[12:12] <seb128> sil2100, I would appreciate if I can get a silo for l43 today, that's a desktop change
[12:12] <sil2100> seb128: sure, let me take a look
[12:12] <sil2100> I don't see the line though!
[12:12] <sil2100> Let me refresh
[12:13] <sil2100> Just hope the spreadsheet problems didn't start again...
[12:13] <sil2100> seb128: ok, I see it now
[12:13] <seb128> good ;-)
[12:14] <mhr3> sil2100, someone needs to press the merge button first though?!
[12:14] <sil2100> mhr3: I pressed ;)
[12:15] <sil2100> Since I'm the lander-helper here, since bregma didn't get training yet
[12:15] <sil2100> Oh noes, spreadsheet problems again, grrr
[12:15] <seb128> larsu, so the fix is to revert the revert we had?
[12:16] <larsu> seb128: no, that's not enough. We also need https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/fix-evolution-mail-view/+merge/206696
[12:16] <larsu> I'm not sure I like this fix yet
[12:16] <seb128> oh ok
[12:16] <larsu> but it'll do for now (and let people read their emails again)
[12:16] <seb128> should I approve it then?
[12:17] <seb128> looks fine from my css newbie eye
[12:17] <larsu> sure, if it works for you :)
[12:23] <seb128> larsu, wfm
[12:25] <larsu> awesome :)
[13:11] <mdeslaur> hrm, I just did a dist-upgrade and now seem to have lost all my gtk2 theming
[13:11] <mdeslaur> or something
[13:13] <mdeslaur> oh, hrm, and I get both global menus and window menus
[13:15] <seb128> mdeslaur, seems like your gnome-settings-daemon is not running?
[13:15] <seb128> or unity-settings-daemon if you installed that
[13:15] <mdeslaur> seb128: yeah, neither one are running
[13:15] <seb128> that's your issue
[13:16] <seb128> did it stop in a running session? or is that a fresh boot/login having the issue?
[13:16] <mdeslaur> fresh boot
[13:16] <seb128> you don't have unity-settings-daemon installed I guess?
[13:16] <mdeslaur> seb128: nope, am I supposed to?
[13:16] <seb128> not yet no
[13:17] <seb128> I wonder why g-s-d is not running
[13:17] <seb128> that didn't change for 10 days
[13:17] <seb128> hum
[13:17] <seb128> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/165306326/gnome-settings-daemon_3.8.6.1-0ubuntu4_3.8.6.1-0ubuntu5.diff.gz
[13:18] <mdeslaur> d'oh
[13:18] <seb128> that makes me wonder why it has been working?
[13:18] <Laney> there was an override in unity
[13:18] <Laney> did that get dropped with the upload?
[13:18] <seb128> if the override was not in trunk, likely
[13:19] <Laney> bet that's it
[13:20] <seb128> yep
[13:20] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166501925/unity_7.1.2%2B14.04.20131106.1-0ubuntu5_7.1.2%2B14.04.20140214.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[13:20] <seb128> mdeslaur, thanks, I'm going to fix that
[13:20] <mdeslaur> seb128: thanks
[13:20]  * mdeslaur hands seb128 a mop
[13:21] <seb128> sil2100, didrocks: I'm overlooked that we dropped http://launchpadlibrarian.net/165334512/unity_7.1.2%2B14.04.20131106.1-0ubuntu3_7.1.2%2B14.04.20131106.1-0ubuntu4.diff.gz as well this morning and we need to restore that, or no g-s-d running for trusty users ... can we go through a quick CI train round for it or should I manual upload?
[13:24] <seb128> Laney, xnox: hum, is there a reason to not just install u-s-d?
[13:24] <Laney> dunno, letting robert handle that
[13:25] <didrocks> seb128: sure
[13:25] <xnox> seb128: works for me fine.
[13:25] <seb128> ok, he dropped me an email this morning with a few items
[13:25] <seb128> I'm going to let hum handle that
[13:25] <seb128> him
[13:27] <didrocks> seb128: so, someone backported the changelog without backporting the other changes?
[13:28] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, seems so, r3648 from Mirv
[13:29] <didrocks> :(
[13:29] <seb128> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/3648
[13:40] <didrocks> seb128: sorry, with all the pings, I lost track, are you going to make a quick landing? (I can assign a slot quickly)
[13:41] <didrocks> ah, on -ci-eng
[13:41] <seb128> didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity/restore-gsd-override/+merge/206715
[13:41]  * didrocks scrollback
[13:41] <seb128> didrocks, I'm waiting from bregma to know if he wants to include some other fixes
[13:42] <didrocks> seb128: ok, as long as it's not risky changes
[13:42] <didrocks> I'll let you, just ping me :)
[13:42] <rsalveti> Laney: had to update the gst-bad package so we could get it to work with nexus 10 (needed for mwc), will test your package split later today and do a rebase
[13:46] <ivanka> hi tkamppeter
[13:47] <ogra_> bah
[13:47] <ogra_> who uploaded evo last !
[13:47] <ogra_> my message preview window is black in the latest version
[13:48] <ogra_> Laney, hmm, smells like your last fix doesnt work anymore
[13:49] <seb128> ogra_, get somebody from CI to land ubuntu-themes (I put a landing ask for it on the old non CI landing)
[13:49] <ogra_> ah
[13:49] <seb128> ogra_, the fix is in there, we just need an upload
[13:50] <seb128> bregma, do you plan to ask for a compiz landing as well today? we could do with https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/compiz/unity-control-center/+merge/206635 in the archive to finish that transition
[13:50] <bregma> seb128, yes, that's next
[13:51] <seb128> bregma, thanks
[13:51] <seb128> bregma, congrats on getting things landing and rolling again btw ;-)
[13:52] <bregma> seb128, you have no idea how painful this cycle has been so far
[13:52] <tkamppeter> ivanka, hi
[13:52] <seb128> bregma, let's cross finger that we are over those issues and landings can happen in a smooth way now then
[13:54] <ivanka> tkamppeter, I need some help with a printer and I thought you might be able to help me
[13:57] <seb128> bregma, shrug, merge failed because some of your mp are missing commit message, can you fix that? let me know once you do so I can rekick
[13:59] <bregma> seb128, fixed and double-checked
[13:59] <seb128> bregma, thanks
[14:00] <Sweetshark> ricotz: You re right, lets push 4.2.1~rc1 to the main PPA and the 4.2 one. Better that way.
[14:01] <Sweetshark> ricotz: And thanks for doing the backports that quickly over the weekend!
[14:01]  * Sweetshark forgot his manners.
[14:01] <Sweetshark> Hi all! ;)
[14:02] <seb128> Sweetshark, hey, how are you?
[14:03] <Sweetshark> seb128: great as ricotz is an awesome help in providing backports. :)
[14:04] <seb128> nice
[14:04] <Sweetshark> ... also I can almost walk again (unlike the weekend).
[14:04] <seb128> did you drunk that much?
[14:04] <Sweetshark> >.<
[14:04] <seb128> drink*
[14:05] <Sweetshark> seb128: nah, somehow hurt my knee -- strange thing, was at the doctor today, but its getting better now.
[14:06] <seb128> k, good to read you are getting better
[14:06] <Sweetshark> seb128: how was your weekend?
[14:08] <seb128> Sweetshark, quite nice & relaxing, thanks. I did some sport on saturday, watched some more sport on TV (winter games) and didn't do a lot otherwise
[14:08] <seb128> Sweetshark, how was yours?
[14:09] <desrt> good morning, all
[14:12] <desrt> and pitti
[14:13] <pitti> Good morning
[14:13] <seb128> hey desrt, pitti
[14:13] <pitti> bonjour desrt et seb128
[14:13] <seb128> pitti, did you have a nice trip? how is your jetlag?
[14:14] <seb128> Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6948957/ ... can I get a peer review please? ;-)
[14:14] <pitti> seb128: the trip was okay, and we spend a really nice day in SF yesterday, thanks!
[14:14] <seb128> nice
[14:14] <seb128> did you go to see the sea lions? ;-)
[14:16] <pitti> seb128: woke up early as usual, and now trying to understand the recent cloud-image change which broke VMs
[14:16] <pitti> seb128: yes, as usual :) we walked all the way to the Pacific again, was nice
[14:16] <seb128> ;-)
[14:22] <ochosi> bregma: saw you processed 1.2.0 of light-locker, thanks a bunch!
[14:22] <ochosi> it's very much appreciated
[14:32] <seb128> shrug, user switching keeps screwing my sessions
[14:32] <seb128> is anyone seen that on trusty (intel video)?
[14:32] <pitti> works fine in general
[14:32] <seb128> that started 10 days ago for me
[14:32] <pitti> I occasionally see some video corruption, I get the screen filled with underscore-like characters
[14:32] <pitti> but a Ctrl+L fixes that
[14:32] <seb128> every 3-4 user switching I end up with a blank screen and a cursor
[14:33] <seb128> no greeter, and my user session closed
[14:33] <seb128> I'm going to download lightdm to try to rule that out, it was rock solid in january
[14:33] <seb128> issues started around the time we upgraded xorg to 1.15, could be xorg/intel
[14:37] <seb128> shrug
[14:37] <seb128> gtk autopkgtest started failing today
[14:39] <seb128> -Setting up gjs-tests (1.38.1-0ubuntu2) ...
[14:39] <seb128> +Setting up gjs-tests (1.39.3-0ubuntu1) ...
[14:39] <pitti> seb128: see #ubuntu-devel
[14:39] <Laney> seb128: yeah, makes sense
[14:40] <Laney> ogra_: it's fixed in the theme, not the same thing
[14:40] <seb128> pitti, is that due to the proxy? or due to the gjs?
[14:40] <Laney> rsalveti: okay cool, looking forward to your testing
[14:40] <ogra_> Laney, so i learned
[14:40] <pitti> seb128: for now I suspect the proxy
[14:40] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:40] <seb128> pitti, ok
[14:40] <Laney> rsalveti: not sure I dare to ask, but is there any work on upstreaming?
[14:40] <seb128> there is a major gjs version update from darkxst as well though
[14:40] <pitti> seb128: could be either, but I first want to fix VM building, then fix/revert proxies (to see which tests don't get along with that), and then start blaming new versions
[14:41] <seb128> pitti, k
[14:41] <seb128> Laney, btw, https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/evolution/revert-reverting-0cb0dc0/+merge/206698 ... if you feel like sponsoring that
[14:42] <Laney> "was is black"!
[14:42] <Laney> will do
[14:42] <seb128> thanks
[14:46] <rsalveti> Laney: not atm, as jim is fully focused to land the new mediaservice (so we can drop the need for qtmultimedia), but that should happen once he's done with it
[14:46] <Laney> ok
[14:46] <rsalveti> I don't want to maintain that huge patch for so long either :-)
[14:51] <xnox> is it just me, or does lightdm at times not accept keyboard input on boot
[14:51] <xnox> ?
[14:51] <seb128> xnox, bug #1255558
[14:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1255558 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Can't type my password after cold boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1255558
[14:52] <seb128> xnox, you can unblock it by using the keyboard indicator (workaround but better than nothing)
[14:52] <bregma> xnox, clicking on any indicator will actually refocus the input box afterward
[14:53] <xnox> seb128: was that filed, like the day after we switched to logind?
[14:53] <xnox> =)
[14:54] <seb128> xnox, lol, no, that's from trusty cycle ;-)
[14:55] <ogra_> just use the onscreen kbd ... we're going all touch, y'know ?
[15:06] <seb128> Laney, do you understand why indicator-datetime/unity-control-center are not migrating?
[15:06] <Laney> let me see
[15:07] <seb128> Laney, indicator-datetime stopped building unity-control-center-datetime
[15:07] <seb128> unity-control-center C,R,P it
[15:07] <seb128> so the binary should be NBS and provided by u-c-c
[15:07] <seb128> that should be enough no?
[15:13] <Laney> seb128: hmm, I'm not sure what the best way out is
[15:14] <Laney> maybe removing the old binary package? I'd check with cjw, he'll probably know
[15:18] <desrt> do we know any ukrainians?
[15:20] <xnox> desrt: well....
[15:26] <seb128> mpt, do you have any comment about http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/headphone.png (https://code.launchpad.net/~diwic/unity-settings-daemon/what-did-you-plug-in/+merge/206573), I think some of the spacing are wrong (at least the one between the buttons at the bottom)
[15:26]  * desrt finally adds g_str_to_ascii() to GLib today
[15:27] <seb128> desrt, do you need translations or...?
[15:27] <desrt> ukrainian has some... oddities
[15:27] <desrt> i found some ukrainian strings in the .po files that test the cases i need, though
[15:27] <desrt> and a website that seems to confirm that i'm doing it correctly
[15:28] <xnox> desrt: i know some ukrainian, and indeed it has interesting properties.
[15:28] <xnox> ditto e.g. polish
[15:29] <desrt> polish is pretty boring wrt. transliteration because it's already latin-based
[15:29] <xnox> desrt: ah, true =)
[15:29] <seb128> bregma, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-006/ seems fine to me, could you guys give it a round of testing as well and +1 it if you are happy for the landing to be done?
[15:29] <desrt> what makes ukrainian interesting is that it has a non-latin alphabet and a non-trivial government-specified standard for transliteration to english
[15:29] <mpt> seb128, yes, should be 6px between the large buttons, 6px between “Cancel” and “Sound Settings…”, and 12px below the small buttons. Also that “…” looks suspiciously like “...”.
[15:30] <xnox> desrt: note that government-specified standard is only use for translatirating names, and not used commonly by people.
[15:30] <mpt> Ah, MP
[15:30] <seb128> mpt, can you comment on the mp? thanks
[15:30] <mpt> yes I will
[15:30] <xnox> desrt: e.g. www.translit.ru is probably the most comprehensive transliterator which works as people expect it to be, most of the time.
[15:30] <desrt> xnox: are you ukrainian?
[15:30] <seb128> mpt, the … use is correct :p (pointed it in the previous revision)
[15:30] <xnox> desrt: no, i'm russian.
[15:30] <desrt> so this string: Зліва направо, згори вниз
[15:31] <desrt> how does this look to you: Zliva napravo, zhory vnyz
[15:31] <desrt> specifically this 'zh'
[15:31] <bregma> seb128, I'm giving it a round of testing, but the ci-train is messed up
[15:32] <seb128> bregma, that's fine, I can still press jenkins buttons
[15:32] <xnox> desrt: yeah, that's fine. and one style of doing it =)
[15:33] <xnox> desrt: sometimes one can also do a different scheme e.g.: zgori vniz
[15:33] <desrt> ya.. there seems to be a lot of confusion around i/y and particularly the treatment of з wrt. z/g/h
[15:34] <desrt> http://ua.translit.cc/ is the first hit i get for 'ukrainian transliteration' and it seems to do it the government way
[15:34] <desrt> so i'm happy enough :)
[15:35] <Laney> ya, just have glib call out to that
[15:36] <mpt> seb128, commented
[15:36] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[15:37] <desrt> sweet jesus yes -- at long last -- the holy grail
[15:37] <desrt> this passes: http://ur1.ca/gn4ph
[15:37] <desrt> "ü" can convert to "u" AND "ue", depending on language
[15:37] <desrt> IN THE SAME PROCESS
[15:38]  * desrt kicks dirt in the general direction of iconv
[15:43] <seb128> didrocks, sil2100: is gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas under CI train? I don't find it on the table
[15:45] <bregma> seb128, everything tests OK https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-006/ except autopilot (which takes 3.5 hours to run) so I'm giving the +1 if you care to push buttons
[15:46] <bregma> if the fixes to the AP tests that went in are broken, it can be handled later any way
[15:48] <seb128> bregma, upload done, thanks
[15:53] <sil2100> seb128: hi! If it's not in the spreadsheet then I guess it's not right now, let me look
[15:53] <seb128> sil2100, the merge requests don't seem to be automerged either, it's weird
[15:54] <sil2100> seb128: maybe CI was never enabled for it?
[15:54] <sil2100> Checking the config
[15:55] <seb128> sil2100, https://code.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/trunk has commits from the jenkins bot
[15:58] <sil2100> seb128: oh, I see it's migrated to CITrain already
[16:06] <seb128> sil2100, ok; thanks, not sure why it's missing for the owners list then
[16:07] <seb128> sil2100, btw how is the ubuntu-themes landing going? ;-)
[16:10] <sil2100> seb128: I'm back from the vet now, and I see the packages built so publishing in a moment ;)
[16:11] <seb128> sil2100, great, thank you
[16:15] <Laney> pitti: hey, can you educate me in how to patch the code for a dbusmock template method please?
[16:16] <Laney> do I just AddMethod with the same interface, name, signatures?
[16:18] <seb128> Laney, looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/scale-factor-for-unity7-unity8/+merge/206240 again, it seems like our current set of sources/binaries for schemas/default is a bit weird ... what do you think? where should we put "shared" keys?
[16:18] <Laney> shared in what sense?
[16:19] <seb128> desktop and touch
[16:19] <seb128> e.g https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/scale-factor-for-unity7-unity8/+merge/206240
[16:19] <seb128> the scale factor is not for touch, it's for unity 7 and 8
[16:19] <Laney> oh, yeah, I kind of wish that 'touch' wasn't in the name
[16:19] <seb128> it feels weird to have it in -touch
[16:19] <hikiko> +1
[16:20] <seb128> should we just rename it?
[16:20] <seb128> I wonder if that should just be part of ubuntu-settings
[16:21] <hikiko> seb128, it was part of unity7 initially but we put it in gsettings-touch because there was a requirement to use it from unity8 too
[16:21] <Laney> 'that' being this schema or all of them?
[16:21] <seb128> hikiko, right, the -touch is a bit unfortunate in the name
[16:21] <seb128> Laney, "that" being the scale key I guess
[16:22] <hikiko> Laney, the schema contains only one setting
[16:22] <Laney> yes
[16:22] <hikiko> yes the scale factor
[16:22] <Laney> but the package contains a few schemas
[16:22] <seb128> well, there is no reason the other ones need to be touch specific
[16:22] <hikiko> I didnt use one of the existing schemas because I thought that they are touch specific
[16:22] <seb128> in retrospective we didn't pick the right name
[16:22] <seb128> well, nothing else use them today
[16:23] <Laney> Feel free to rename the package
[16:23] <seb128> but there is no reason they are "touch" specific, touch is not even an official product name
[16:23] <seb128> yeah, adding to my todolist
[16:23] <Laney> gsettings-ubuntu-schemas would be ok
[16:23] <seb128> +1
[16:23] <Laney> then have a normal transitional package because we have versioned depends there
[16:23] <seb128> right
[16:23] <seb128> until the LTS
[16:24] <seb128> then we can drop it
[16:24] <Laney> ya
[16:24] <Laney> not long
[16:24] <seb128> hikiko, is that landing blocking other thing?
[16:24] <seb128> I'm going to put a landing request for it
[16:25] <hikiko> I will use the setting on unity7 and unity-control-center only
[16:25] <Laney> can't it go in together with those things?
[16:25] <Laney> in a silo
[16:25] <seb128> right, I'm just wondering if you have merges approved/ready to land yet
[16:25] <hikiko> and at some point the unity8 people will need it too but not soon I think
[16:25] <seb128> Laney, well, it can go alone first
[16:25] <Laney> if the type turns out to be wrong for example
[16:25] <Laney> and it's already out there
[16:25] <seb128> I'm just pondering doing a landing now to unblock others
[16:25] <hikiko> no seb128, I will have a unity-control-center branch later today or tomorrow morning
[16:26] <seb128> since I'm not likely to get to the renaming today
[16:26] <seb128> ok
[16:26] <Laney> your call, but I'd wait until the code to use it is ready too and do them together
[16:26] <seb128> let's do that tomorrow then
[16:26] <seb128> yeah
[16:26] <seb128> I'm going to do the rename tomorrow
[16:26] <seb128> and we can land key/code later in the week
[16:26] <hikiko> ok seb128 :) thank you!
[16:26] <seb128> Laney, hikiko: thanks
[16:26] <Laney> not fussed about the rename, that can happen whenever if we use a transitional
[16:26] <Laney> cheers
[16:28] <seb128> right, I would avoid adding an unity7 depends to the touch name to rename it later, but it's a detail
[16:28] <Laney> nod
[16:41] <hikiko> seb128, ok I wont add the dep before the rename :)
[16:41] <seb128> hikiko, thanks
[16:50] <Sweetshark> seb128: oh cool, watching wintergames. ;)
[16:50]  * Sweetshark is still look for a full copy of the snowboard cross event. The extracts already looked awesome.
[16:54] <hikiko> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity-control-center/unity-control-center.per-monitor-fonts-scale-factor-slider/+merge/205227 here is my MP for the control center, I didnt add the dependency so you can rename it, if some of you gnome people could review it btw it would be great :)
[16:57] <seb128> hikiko, I'm almost done working for today, and robert_ancell did some reviews on that before, so I'm going to let it for him. If he doesn't review it during his day I can have a look tomorrow
[16:58] <hikiko> sure seb128 :) have a good evening!
[16:58] <seb128> hikiko, nice to that code shorter/without the crazy parser btw ;-)
[16:58] <seb128> hikiko, I'm still around for half an hour or so (finishing other stuff) but thanks, you too ;-)
[16:59] <hikiko> haha, I didnt know about gvariants when I wrote the parser and using a string/linked list seemed to be the best option :)
[16:59] <hikiko> there's no need for that anymore
[17:00] <seb128> great ;-)
[17:00] <jasoncwarner__> hey seb128 , bregma was asking for some help with this bug for unity 8 preview session https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1277244
[17:00] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1277244 in Ubuntu "[needs packaging] unity8-desktop-session" [Wishlist,New]
[17:01] <seb128> jasoncwarner, hey, any specific about what sort of help? review? packaging for him? sponsoring?
[17:01] <bregma> review and sponsoring
[17:01] <seb128> bregma, hey, you know you can ping us directly or ask for help on the channel? ;-)
[17:02] <seb128> bregma, step 1, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors
[17:02] <bregma> seems I'm busy desperately trying to get everything landed before FF with a brand-new incompatible workflow imposed on us at the last minute
[17:02] <bregma> weird, right?
[17:03] <seb128> bregma, what new workflow? the CI one? should be fine now that you bootstrapped
[17:03] <seb128> bregma, btw new cairo/gtk are in trusty proper, I know some of you were waiting on it for Hi-DPI
[17:04] <seb128> bregma, I'm happy to help you doing CI landings for compiz/unity
[17:18] <Laney> When writing a test for a bug fix, it helps to have the bug fix in the tree you're developing from
[17:18] <Laney> TIL
[17:20] <seb128> seems like a reasonable statement indeed
[17:38] <hikiko> bye everybody!
[18:33] <Sweetshark> and off for today: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/76313652283/unfortunately-thats-how-shift-rotation-looks-to ...
[19:06] <ogra_> Laney, so with the new evo my mail text is white again ... sadly the whole frame around it is now black :)
[19:07] <ogra_> (or is that still somewhere stuck in proposed ?)
[19:34] <Laney> did you get the theme?
[19:35] <ogra_> ubuntu-artwork ?
[19:35] <ogra_> 1:13.04+14.04.20140217-0ubuntu1
[19:35] <ogra_> oh
[19:36] <ogra_> seems light-themes didnt get upgraded along ... i wonder why
[19:36] <ogra_> hmm, no, it did
[19:41] <Laney> it fixed the problem for me on both machines
[19:41] <Laney> check with larsu in the morning
[19:41] <Laney> or file a bug with screenshots
[19:43] <ogra_> do i need to log out for that ?
[19:43] <ogra_> ( i certainly didnt)
[19:47] <chrisccoulson> hello desktop
[21:13] <robert_ancell> desrt, is https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-control-center/show-login-name/+merge/206325/comments/484788 true? The loop is crap but does the schema source lookup cause overhead parsing metadata?
[21:13] <robert_ancell> desrt, you really should have a g_settings_schema_exists...
[21:14] <desrt> robert_ancell: no.. the metadata doesn't get pulled in until you use the _get_summary/description APIs
[21:14] <desrt> robert_ancell: i want to make it just hard enough to check if a schema exists so that people have to think twice before doing so
[21:14] <desrt> because doing so is _always_ wrong
[21:15] <desrt> it should only ever be used as a temporary hack
[21:15] <desrt> actually -- i take that back -- there are some places that it makes sense
[21:16] <desrt> mostly in really dynamic situations... the sort of things you would find in a plugin system or something like gnome-session where you can specify a schema by name from an application's autostart file
[21:16] <desrt> but nowhere inside anything resembling 'normal application' code
[21:17] <robert_ancell> desrt, should a lookup be recursive for a "standard" schema?
[21:17] <desrt> yes
[21:17] <desrt> a schema source is one directory
[21:17] <desrt> so if you have like /usr/local/share and /usr/share in your xdg_data_dirs then local/share will be the default schema source, with /usr/share as the parent
[21:18] <desrt> recursive means to check through the parents...
[21:35] <robert_ancell> xnox, Google seems to have decided all mail from you is spam :(
[21:38] <xnox> robert_ancell: yeah.
[21:38] <xnox> robert_ancell: well not from me, those that are generated by launchpad and not actually sent by me.
[21:38] <xnox> robert_ancell: i think i'll disable DMARC for now
[21:39] <bregma> robert_ancell, could you please update lp:~robert-ancell/compiz/unity-control-center to merge trunk, I'd like to get it landed today
[21:40] <robert_ancell> bregma, I'll do it now
[21:40]  * bregma is riding the ci-train like a cowboy on a bull
[21:41] <robert_ancell> bregma, holy crap that is a big changelog entry!
[21:41] <robert_ancell> bregma, should I put anything in debian/changelog or is that all automatically added now?
[21:41] <darkxst> pitti, around?
[21:42] <bregma> robert_ancell, I have no idea, I haven't got any formal training yet
[21:43] <robert_ancell> bregma, It looks like it is now, branch updated
[21:43] <bregma> yep, I checked other landings, so it's definitely added automagically
[21:44] <bregma> I'll get the landing rebuild started, thanks
[22:08] <darkxst> gjs autopackage tests are now failing on jenkins, with (/usr/lib/gjs/gjs/installed-tests/jsunit:11564): Gjs-WARNING **: JS ERROR: Error: Requiring GjsPrivate, version none: Typelib file for namespace 'Gtk', version '3.0' not found
[22:08] <darkxst> @resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/format.js:3
[22:08] <darkxst> @/usr/lib/gjs/gjs/installed-tests/js/testFormat.js:3
[22:08] <meetingology> darkxst: Error: "resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/format.js:3" is not a valid command.
[22:08] <meetingology> darkxst: Error: "/usr/lib/gjs/gjs/installed-tests/js/testFormat.js:3" is not a valid command.
[22:09] <darkxst> even though GjsPrivate is installed
[22:44] <Laney> darkxst: it sounds like a missing dependency on gir1.2-gtk-3.0 to me
[22:44] <darkxst> Laney, yeh worked that out now
[22:44] <Laney> +if ENABLE_GTK +GjsPrivate_1_0_gir_INCLUDES += Gtk-3.0 +endif
[22:44] <Laney> from the diff
[22:45] <Laney> use http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test starting at bzr branch lp:auto-package-testing to make sure they work
[22:45] <darkxst> I havent been able to get that working yet
[22:46] <darkxst> get network? errors and then fails to connect to VM
[22:46] <Laney> hmm, it works for me :/
[22:46] <Laney> try getting adt-virt-schroot or adt-virt-lxc working then
[22:47]  * Laney can never remember the flags to adt-run
[22:49] <darkxst> it fails on the prepare-testbed command http://pastebin.com/W16cVHu6
[23:24] <desrt> Laney: hey
[23:25] <desrt> Laney: going through glib now trying to fix bad testcases
[23:25] <desrt> Laney: figured out gdbus-names and neutered the gapplication failure too
[23:25] <desrt> Laney: did you have a list of the others?
[23:32] <robert_ancell> desrt, what is the correct way to add an element to an existing GVariant dictionary?
[23:32] <robert_ancell> Do you need to build a new dictionary?
[23:33] <desrt> robert_ancell: GVariantDict
[23:34] <robert_ancell> desrt, uh, does not exist yet?
[23:34] <desrt> robert_ancell: i'm releasing the tarball in about 15 minutes :)
[23:48] <jasoncwarner> hey robert_ancell just going through a test install and realized we still say '13.10' in default greeter. did we get anything new from design yet?