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WoC | Any device on which the status is stable/production ? | 01:07 |
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WoC | Mako looking good :) | 01:12 |
pokesmot | it's impulse buy #2 for me this month, a nexus 4 this time | 01:16 |
* pokesmot joins the party | 01:16 | |
WoC | Looks like a good pick | 01:17 |
pokesmot | more like the *only* pick | 01:21 |
pokesmot | i have an optimus l9 currently. and seeing that if i wanted to really use ubuntu touch on a phone, nexus 4 is the way to go | 01:21 |
WoC | Aye, im thinking the same | 01:22 |
WoC | Too bad that it doesnt have 4G/LTE | 01:25 |
pokesmot | the nexux? or the os? | 01:27 |
WoC | The Nexus 4 (Mako) | 01:27 |
WoC | And no sd card slot | 01:28 |
pokesmot | hmmm | 01:28 |
WoC | http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_4_e960-5048.php | 01:28 |
pokesmot | this will be an issue. | 01:28 |
WoC | non removable battery | 01:29 |
WoC | Released 2012, November | 01:29 |
pokesmot | and you say it looks like a good pick/. now i'm having second thoughts! | 01:30 |
WoC | Well, as you said, its the one they are ahead on | 01:30 |
pokesmot | in reality though, i'll be keeping my old phone | 01:30 |
pokesmot | one thing i couldn't part with is flac audio into head unit | 01:31 |
WoC | Maybe they can get 4G/LTE going with some dsp coding | 01:31 |
pokesmot | my car stereo won't play flac over usb, but will tske flac in bluetooth | 01:31 |
pokesmot | that is probably one of the few things i couldn't live without. | 01:32 |
pokesmot | (music) | 01:32 |
WoC | :) | 01:32 |
pokesmot | all this other stuff... i had used a candybar phone for years | 01:32 |
pokesmot | no fancy apps, reminders, blah de blah | 01:32 |
pokesmot | i'd really hope some day this takes off | 01:33 |
WoC | So do I :) | 01:36 |
pokesmot | if only the desktop os would gain more steam | 01:36 |
pokesmot | its starting to. i got my roommate to switch 100% to ubuntu, no more windows | 01:36 |
WoC | I be holding off any phone upgrades for now, til a stable version is released | 01:36 |
WoC | Nice :) | 01:37 |
pokesmot | speaking of steam, i hear valve gave up on windows 8 | 01:37 |
WoC | Heh, no wonder | 01:37 |
pokesmot | i was surprised to see all the major titles i cared to play, are available on linux now | 01:37 |
WoC | :) | 01:38 |
WoC | Which one your favorite > | 01:38 |
WoC | ? | 01:38 |
pokesmot | i dunno, hslf-life has nostalgia factor. | 01:38 |
WoC | Aye | 01:39 |
pokesmot | i honestly haven't played any of them in years | 01:39 |
WoC | Im an ol Q3 fan myself :) | 01:39 |
WoC | Same here | 01:39 |
pokesmot | used to be big into cs. but then it went retail, got popular, got lame | 01:39 |
pokesmot | i stopped playing, and later secured my reason to not play computer games | 01:40 |
pokesmot | i guess it's hard to play first person shooters without a left hand | 01:40 |
WoC | Opps, that might be difficult yes | 01:40 |
pokesmot | i had once made a controller with a few foot buttons and an ardino. but cs will never be the same, really | 01:40 |
pokesmot | if i want nostalgia i'd sooner play doom... or blake stone for that matter | 01:41 |
WoC | heh :) | 01:41 |
pokesmot | http://www.smstributes.co.uk/snail/snail.htm | 01:42 |
pokesmot | i'll play that game all day. | 01:42 |
WoC | heh :) | 01:52 |
pokesmot | yes, you may call me a simpleton. | 01:54 |
WoC | By the looks of it, by the time there is a release version of ubuntu-touch for Nexus 4, the device will no longer be made.... | 02:00 |
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pokesmot | WoC: the device is no longer being made. | 02:05 |
pokesmot | check it out, https://www.google.com/nexus/4/ | 02:05 |
pokesmot | redirects to nexus 5 | 02:05 |
nhaines | I just got a Nexus 5. :D | 02:05 |
pokesmot | as yet unsupported by ubuntu touch, i'll guess? | 02:06 |
nhaines | Sure, but the rebasing on Android 4.4.2 ought to make a community port pretty simple. | 02:06 |
nhaines | And it should be supported by 14.10, I'd imagine. | 02:07 |
nhaines | And as long as I don't drop it, the phone *should* have a nice resell value if some Ubuntu super phone comes out and I want to buy that instead. | 02:07 |
pokesmot | ha, if and only if... | 02:08 |
pokesmot | i am debating bricking my phone on a school night | 02:08 |
pokesmot | i hve never rooted a phone but i'm just feeling adventurous | 02:09 |
nhaines | In the meantime, Android 4.4 is an extremely nice upgrade from 4.3 on my Galaxy Nexus, and it should be a lovely Ubuntu phone, and I changed my plan to be less expensive, which covers the cost of the phone. So it's win-win for now. | 02:09 |
pokesmot | of course, this may be because i fried my brain cramming for calculus | 02:09 |
nhaines | pokesmot: which phone do you have? | 02:09 |
pokesmot | lg l9 | 02:10 |
pokesmot | i have a nexus 4 on the way, that's the one ill be putting ubuntu touch on | 02:10 |
pokesmot | but i guess i'm getting adventurous with my main phone | 02:10 |
nhaines | Aha! Just dual-boot then. It's fairly trivial and extremely well-supported. | 02:10 |
pokesmot | no, the nexus 4 is going to be perma-ubuntu-touch | 02:11 |
pokesmot | i'll still have the l9 | 02:11 |
pokesmot | i'm debating putting cyanogenmod on the L9 just for something to do | 02:11 |
nhaines | If Ubuntu had Google Navigation and Ingress I'd never look back. | 02:11 |
pokesmot | but intuition tells me i should wait till the nexus arribes, flash that, then do something w/ the L9 when i have a second, -working- phone | 02:12 |
nhaines | Yes you should. :) | 02:12 |
nhaines | Ubuntu on my Galaxy Nexus was pretty nice. Just no useful apps, and the OS tends to be a little stuttery because the video driver sucks (not Ubuntu's fault). | 02:13 |
pokesmot | it looks mindlessly simple | 02:15 |
pokesmot | how do i back up my stock android os using fastboot? i didn't see anything about this in the help | 02:15 |
nhaines | No idea. Probably just fingure out how to install nandroid. | 02:16 |
WoC | there is a how-to, using adb | 02:16 |
nhaines | I didn't bother backing up anything when I was flashing. | 02:16 |
WoC | dang, was just looking at it | 02:16 |
WoC | right, here; http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/515981/20131023/install-ubuntu-os-version-13-10-lg.htm#.UqfEfuJRTDc | 02:17 |
WoC | backup covered | 02:17 |
pokesmot | i'm speaking of my normal day-to-day phone | 02:18 |
pokesmot | its an LG optimus L9 i want to put something else on | 02:19 |
nhaines | WoC: that's just copy-pasted from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 02:19 |
pokesmot | ah thanks | 02:19 |
pokesmot | adb backup -apk -shared -all | 02:20 |
nhaines | pokesmot: nandroid. | 02:20 |
pokesmot | thats what i needed | 02:20 |
pokesmot | lesse if it works | 02:20 |
pokesmot | it works | 02:23 |
pokesmot | no tool required | 02:23 |
nhaines | What worked? | 02:25 |
pokesmot | adb backup command | 02:27 |
pokesmot | though not sure what i get out, it's not done yet | 02:27 |
nhaines | pokesmot: that doesn't backup your email settings, SMS or call history, or lots of things. Just be forewarned. | 02:30 |
pokesmot | i just want the system rom in case of emergency | 02:34 |
pokesmot | i can lose all data, that wouldn't be an issue | 02:35 |
pokesmot | though... does adb restore depend on a working OS? | 02:36 |
pokesmot | ie, isn't it possible for a flash to go wrong, and then being unable to restore a backup with adb? | 02:37 |
pokesmot | oooh i get it! "phablet" is like a tablet-sized phone | 02:38 |
pokesmot | i /just/ realized that now. | 02:38 |
pokesmot | i have seen those things, they were bigger than my handspan | 02:39 |
nhaines | pokesmot: adb restore depends on a working OS. But if a flash goes wrong, you won't have a working system to restore system data to. | 03:10 |
DonkeyHotei | i'm trying to netinstall saucy on an x86 tablet so that i can then apt-get install ubuntu-touch, but the net installer won't see the keyboard i plugged into usb so i can't use it. any ideas? | 04:03 |
pokesmot | well anyway nhaines , thanks. turns out unlocking an L769 is convoluted so it'll be a rainy day project when i've got another working phone | 04:06 |
pokesmot | DonkeyHotei: type lsusb in a terminal window to see if the keyboard is recognized./ | 04:07 |
pokesmot | i don't know.. it must be late, but that just sounded comical. | 04:07 |
DonkeyHotei | i can't get to a terminal window because i have no working keyboard | 04:07 |
pokesmot | i don't remember the installer... does the touch work? | 04:08 |
pokesmot | or any sort of input | 04:08 |
DonkeyHotei | it's the debian text installer | 04:08 |
DonkeyHotei | the volume down button acts like a "go back" in the installer and that's about it | 04:09 |
pokesmot | hmm... sorry, not sure. perhaps it's not detecting the usb controller? i'm not real saavy in that regard, knowing the comings and goings of what devices work | 04:10 |
DonkeyHotei | it's as if the kernel is not compiled with usb-hid support | 04:11 |
pokesmot | if i understand it right (and this is from my limited experience w/ linux on a wide range of devices)... when you get to devices less commonly used, less is supported | 04:13 |
pokesmot | so, when you try putting it on a laptop support is less rounded. by extension, going to a tablet gets further out in the dark | 04:14 |
pokesmot | and i'd imagine some devices use some chipset for usb controller or this-or-that, which is never found in a laptop or desktop or embedded system | 04:14 |
pokesmot | did you try searching the internet for " | 04:15 |
pokesmot | linux on [your tablet]' | 04:15 |
pokesmot | ? | 04:15 |
pokesmot | so, it's real late. i've got class tomorrow and, | 04:16 |
pokesmot | good night! | 04:16 |
DonkeyHotei | all reports of installations used a graphical installer | 04:17 |
DonkeyHotei | latest graphical netboot is precise pangolin, where i can't apt-get install ubuntu-touch | 04:18 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:21 |
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Laney | hmm | 09:36 |
Laney | when I try to upgrade using ubuntu-device-flash or system-image-cli from trusty to trusty-proposed the new image doesn't actually get installed. What's up with that? | 09:37 |
Laney | It downloads it, says it'll flash it and then doesn't | 09:37 |
Laney | just reboots back into the old image | 09:37 |
DonkeyHotei | does ubuntu-touch work on saucy? | 09:43 |
ogra_ | Laney, whats the commandline you used for system-image-cli ? | 09:57 |
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Laney | ogra_: I think --channel trusty-proposed -b 0 -v | 09:58 |
ogra_ | hmm, that should be fine | 09:58 |
Laney | -i says i'm on version 0, channel 'daily' | 09:59 |
ogra_ | Laney, what device ? | 09:59 |
Laney | mako | 09:59 |
ogra_ | hmm, weird | 09:59 |
Laney | wait | 09:59 |
Laney | WAIT! | 10:00 |
* ogra_ waits | 10:00 | |
Laney | I remember now, this is a 4.4 image | 10:00 |
ogra_ | well, you should still be able to cross-grade it with system-image-cli | 10:00 |
ogra_ | and ubuntu-device-flash sholdnt care at all whats on the device | 10:01 |
ogra_ | can you call it with bootstrap ? | 10:01 |
Laney | true | 10:03 |
Laney | let me see | 10:03 |
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didrocks | oSoMoN: good morning. Can you enlight us if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1281026 is a design decision or a regression ? | 10:12 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1281026 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "Putting call on hold no longer gives notification mako #188" [Undecided,New] | 10:12 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy World Human Spirit Day! :-D | 10:12 |
oSoMoN | didrocks, I must admit I don’t know, it might very well be a conscious design decision, we’ll have to wait for boiko/tiago to get online to confirm | 10:13 |
didrocks | oSoMoN: ok, I'll ask them about it (or do you prefer tracking that?), thanks | 10:14 |
didrocks | oSoMoN: it's a minor regression, we are not going to block image promotion on this FYI | 10:14 |
oSoMoN | didrocks, as you wish, I can ask them when they get online | 10:15 |
didrocks | oSoMoN: I would appreciate, thanks | 10:16 |
oSoMoN | didrocks, sure, will do | 10:16 |
MacSlow | anybody knows of issues with "phablet-network" not being able to push wifi-settings to a Nexus4 (running image 181). to | 10:30 |
MacSlow | I've been searching the ubuntu-phone ml for any hints... but no luck sofar | 10:31 |
ogra_ | no, that should just work | 10:31 |
ogra_ | whats the error you get ? | 10:31 |
MacSlow | ogra_, triggering phablet-network just times out | 10:31 |
ogra_ | and adb shell finds a device ? | 10:32 |
MacSlow | ogra_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6948115/ | 10:32 |
ogra_ | hmm, that looks like an error on the phone, strange | 10:33 |
MacSlow | ogra_, the wifi-settings page is also very empty... just one option being displayed "Auto-join previous networks" | 10:33 |
ogra_ | no networks ? | 10:33 |
MacSlow | ogra_, the wifi-hardware certainly works as I had it working with kitkat before I flashed it. | 10:34 |
ogra_ | MacSlow, aha | 10:34 |
ogra_ | MacSlow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Android4.4Radio ... | 10:34 |
ogra_ | (ignore that this is for dual boot) | 10:35 |
ogra_ | (same issue) | 10:35 |
MacSlow | ogra_, *sigh* ok... thanks for the hint | 10:35 |
MacSlow | all over again then | 10:36 |
ogra_ | you just need to flash the radio img | 10:37 |
ogra_ | its a thing of 5 min or less | 10:37 |
ogra_ | (plus download) | 10:37 |
MacSlow | ogra_, ok works again... thanks! | 10:54 |
ogra_ | :) | 10:55 |
popey | is there some magic to make nexus 10 appear over adb? | 11:40 |
popey | ah, repeatedly unplug the cable and plug in again "works" | 11:40 |
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nik90 | charles: Do you mind reviewing and testing https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-clock-app/17Feb2014/+merge/206693 | 12:33 |
nik90 | charles: it adds argument support to the clock app | 12:33 |
nik90 | charles: the last time this was added back in the 13.10 cycle, it caused the clock app to not be launchable on the phone. I just need someone to review and see if it is good. | 12:33 |
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mellohey | isit worth installing ubunut touch on the nexus 7? | 13:11 |
cwayne | ogra_, thanks for merging that in :) | 13:12 |
Levi190x | hello everybody , i'm here for know something about ubuntu phone | 13:13 |
Levi190x | someone can help me please ? | 13:14 |
ogra_ | cwayne, np ... i modified it slightly | 13:14 |
cwayne | ogra_, saw that, it makes sense though :) | 13:14 |
ogra_ | next is multi ppa support | 13:15 |
cwayne | ogra_, i also added a small hack to rootstock-touch to copy over a package-list too, but that's not quite ready for merging | 13:15 |
Levi190x | i want to know, if it's possible to install ubuntu phones os on my android phone ' Samsung Galaxy S3 " | 13:16 |
Levi190x | it's possible | 13:16 |
Levi190x | ?.? | 13:16 |
popey | !devices | Levi190x | 13:16 |
ubot5 | Levi190x: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 13:16 |
popey | check that list | 13:16 |
ogra_ | hah, popey beats me | 13:16 |
popey | :)_ | 13:16 |
mellohey | is it? | 13:16 |
ogra_ | mellohey, the new or the old N7 ? | 13:17 |
Levi190x | ok great thx very much i'll see this now | 13:17 |
Levi190x | :) | 13:17 |
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mellohey | ogra_: both | 13:20 |
ogra_ | mellohey, the old one has a pretty bad driver so it only works so/so .... the new one isnt quite supported yet, but there are experimental images fo rir already | 13:21 |
ogra_ | *for it | 13:21 |
ogra_ | onnce we switch to an android 4.4 HAL (probably this week) the old one will be unsupported and the new one will become our default for the 7" form factor | 13:22 |
mellohey | ogra_: thnx, il probobly just wait then | 13:23 |
ogra_ | mellohey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2 | 13:23 |
mellohey | ogra_: ty | 13:25 |
cwayne | ogra_, btw did some quick-and-dirty packaging of rootstock, if i can get it nice and cleaned up, care for an MR? | 13:29 |
ogra_ | cwayne, oh, yes, please | 13:29 |
ogra_ | note that the binary should be called rootsotck-touch ... i have further plans in other directions (rootstock-embedded for example) | 13:30 |
ogra_ | (binary package that is) | 13:30 |
cwayne | ogra_, yep, i figured that :) | 13:31 |
popey | Saviq: do you know when shell rotation / sidestage will be enabled for nexus 7 2013? | 13:34 |
cwayne | popey, experimentally working now | 13:35 |
Saviq | ↑ | 13:35 |
popey | ooh! | 13:35 |
cwayne | well, forcing landscape, not actually rotating | 13:35 |
popey | how? | 13:35 |
Saviq | popey, ppa:unity-team/demo-stuff | 13:35 |
popey | i have one and would love to do some testing | 13:35 |
Saviq | popey, can you point me at some docs on how to actually get Ubuntu on it? | 13:35 |
cwayne | popey, add ppa:unity-team/demo-stuff | 13:35 |
popey | ogra_: ^^ | 13:35 |
cwayne | dist-upgrade | 13:35 |
cwayne | popey, then add NATIVE_ORIENTATION=landscape to /etc/environment | 13:36 |
popey | ta | 13:36 |
ogra_ | Saviq, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2 | 13:37 |
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Saviq | ogra_, thanks | 13:37 |
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cwayne | ogra_, seems you're missing a ';; | 14:26 |
cwayne | ' in rootstock-touch-install | 14:26 |
ogra_ | cwayne, ugh, thx ! | 14:26 |
ogra_ | fixed and pushed | 14:26 |
popey | Saviq: cwayne installing apps sems broken on that demo unity ppa... if i click "install" I get taken to a json dump in a browser of the store output | 14:48 |
cwayne | popey, i think that's not implemented yet | 14:53 |
popey | ah | 14:53 |
popey | k | 14:53 |
cwayne | thostr_, ^ any eta on installing from click-scope? | 14:53 |
thostr_ | cwayne: hopefully tomorrow, give me 30 minutes to verify | 14:53 |
cwayne | sure thing | 14:54 |
AlexHolsgrove | I've just installed Ubuntu Touch n my Galaxy Nexus - and just get a black screen :( | 14:56 |
ogra_ | AlexHolsgrove, which channel ? | 14:58 |
daker | frecel: ping | 14:58 |
* ogra_ runs the latest trusty-proposed just fine here ... and the trusty i used before worked as well | 14:58 | |
AlexHolsgrove | @ogra_ not sure what you mean by channel - sorry | 15:01 |
ogra_ | AlexHolsgrove, which channel did you use for the installer | 15:01 |
AlexHolsgrove | I just followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install and used the fastboot commands | 15:02 |
ogra_ | (for phablet-flash or ubuntu-touch-install ... ) | 15:02 |
AlexHolsgrove | sorry - it's "Trusty" | 15:02 |
ogra_ | thats kind of obsolete, unsupported ... untested ... | 15:03 |
ogra_ | however you want to call it | 15:03 |
AlexHolsgrove | ah, so I would be better going back a version or two? | 15:03 |
ogra_ | no, you should use the proper installer tools | 15:03 |
AlexHolsgrove | please excuse my ignorance. The last install I did of Touch was when it was a non-functinal demo | 15:04 |
AlexHolsgrove | ^ functional | 15:04 |
ogra_ | right, back then we still supported to install zips | 15:04 |
ogra_ | nowadays you should use one of the installer tools | 15:05 |
AlexHolsgrove | OK, I am running Windows 7 at the moment - is there a tool for that? | 15:06 |
ogra_ | either phablet-flash, or better ubuntu-device-flash | 15:06 |
ogra_ | hmm, i dont think so | 15:06 |
AlexHolsgrove | I've just been using adb / fastboot as I have the Android SDK on my dev box | 15:07 |
popey | Saviq: is there a list of the hints like the sidestage one, which go in the desktop file? or are they deprecated? | 15:16 |
jcbjoe | is ubuntu-touch offical or is everything still in preview ? i have a nexus 7 i would really like to get it on | 15:18 |
Saviq | popey, there's only that and X-Ubuntu-Touch true/false | 15:18 |
Ohstopityou | is Ubuntu-touch going to work on Raspberry Pi ? | 15:20 |
ogra_ | Ohstopityou, nope | 15:21 |
Ohstopityou | thanks :) | 15:21 |
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bmoore_ | hello all... thinking of dual-booting my nexus 10 with cm11-nightly and touch, but am wondering how updating android regularly will work if--according to the wiki--touch installs in the recovery part... halp? | 15:42 |
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FuLgOrE_ | rsalveti, are you here? | 15:51 |
oSoMoN | cwayne, hey, I have a fix for the 8tracks issue with selection: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/blacklist-selection/+merge/206747 | 15:52 |
oSoMoN | well, it’s more of a workaround, but it should do the trick for demo purposes | 15:52 |
oSoMoN | the details are in the bug report | 15:53 |
cwayne | oSoMoN, \o/ awesome! | 15:54 |
oSoMoN | cwayne, is that something you can test/review? | 15:54 |
cwayne | oSoMoN, i can test for sure, not sure i'd be the best to review though | 15:54 |
cwayne | oSoMoN, can you get me an updated deb to try out? | 15:55 |
oSoMoN | cwayne, if you can test and confirm that the fix works, that’d be a good start :) | 15:55 |
cwayne | oSoMoN, if you get me a deb i'm happy to test it out :) | 16:01 |
oSoMoN | cwayne, CI should spit out a deb and post the link to it in the MR soonish | 16:13 |
asac | CI does that? nice :) | 16:15 |
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ogra_ | asac, not for all branches, but for most | 16:16 |
Saviq | rsalveti, hey, since `bzr blame` puts it with you, who decided for GRID_UNIT_PX to be 21 for flo? | 16:17 |
rsalveti | Saviq: I did :P | 16:18 |
Jaybone | Can I load Ubuntu touch to Samsung series 7 tablet? | 16:22 |
Saviq | rsalveti, looks like it needs to be reduced, everything's huge | 16:27 |
Saviq | Kaleo, do you have an idea for Nexus7 grid unit? | 16:27 |
oSoMoN | cwayne, that’s the deb built by CI: http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-builder-trusty-armhf/2941/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip | 16:27 |
ogra_ | Saviq, you dont have 4 icons per row ? | 16:28 |
ogra_ | (it was huge with 3) | 16:28 |
Saviq | ogra_, it should be more than 4 | 16:28 |
ogra_ | oh | 16:28 |
rsalveti | Saviq: can't be reduced unless we're in landscape | 16:28 |
* ogra_ wouldnt mind 5 | 16:28 | |
rsalveti | otherwise you'll get sidestage in portrait | 16:28 |
Saviq | rsalveti, well, that's easy to fix (and well, we're in landscape already) | 16:29 |
rsalveti | Saviq: great, even in portrait I believe it's too big | 16:29 |
Saviq | rsalveti, sure it is | 16:30 |
rsalveti | maybe we can find a better value that would fit both cases well, but we'd need to fix the sidestage behavior then | 16:30 |
Saviq | rsalveti, sure, once there's a definition for the desired sidestage behavior ;) | 16:30 |
rsalveti | Saviq: how is it done currently? | 16:31 |
rsalveti | I mean, how do you decide when to show the sidestage? | 16:31 |
Saviq | rsalveti, > 60GU | 16:31 |
rsalveti | Saviq: got it | 16:32 |
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Kaleo | Saviq, should be ~21-22 | 16:45 |
Kaleo | Saviq, but jounih is going to have a look | 16:45 |
Kaleo | Saviq, I think a simple policy would be to only have the sidestage in one of the 2 orientation? | 16:45 |
Kaleo | +s | 16:45 |
Kaleo | Saviq, maybe the largest one :) | 16:46 |
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Saviq | Kaleo, that's problematic when switching between orientations | 16:46 |
Saviq | Kaleo, what do you do with sidestage apps when you go into no-sidestage mode | 16:46 |
Saviq | Kaleo, especially if it's an app that only supports phone layout (aka sidestage layout) | 16:47 |
Saviq | Kaleo, it's 21 now, and everything's definitely too big | 16:47 |
mhall119 | Kaleo: would you be able to run a session on app performance analysis and profiling for App Developer Week? | 16:47 |
Kaleo | mhall119, darn, when is that? | 16:48 |
mhall119 | March 3-6 | 16:48 |
Kaleo | mhall119, that's carnaval | 16:48 |
mhall119 | you can dress up :) | 16:48 |
Kaleo | mhall119, literally :) | 16:48 |
Kaleo | mhall119, as in I won't be onlince :) | 16:48 |
Kaleo | -c | 16:48 |
mhall119 | :-P | 16:48 |
mhall119 | ok | 16:48 |
Kaleo | mhall119, none of the brazilians will be here :/ | 16:49 |
popey | some people come up with the darndest excuses ☻ | 16:49 |
popey | thats the best so far | 16:49 |
mhall119 | Kaleo: who else could give a good session on that who won't be dressing up and partying all week? | 16:49 |
Kaleo | popey, wikipedia backs me up ): | 16:49 |
Kaleo | mhall119, let me think a sec | 16:49 |
mhall119 | ^^ as of an edit 30 seconds ago no doubt | 16:49 |
Kaleo | lol | 16:49 |
Pascal | Hallo | 16:50 |
Pascal | Hello | 16:50 |
mhall119 | timp: are you in Brazil? If not, would you be able to run a session on using QML Loaders for App Developer Week, March 3-6? | 16:51 |
Pascal | msg mhall119 Hello, I´m Pascal, I´m will Ubuntu for UEFI 64 Bit. | 16:54 |
cwayne | davmor2, ping | 16:54 |
davmor2 | cwayne: How do | 16:54 |
cwayne | davmor2, good, you | 16:54 |
cwayne | davmor2, can you do me a favor and install this: http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-builder-trusty-armhf/2941/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip then try the 8tracks webapp? | 16:55 |
cwayne | pls :) | 16:55 |
Pascal | Hallo ich spreche Deutsch könt ihr auch deutsch? | 16:55 |
mhall119 | hello Pascal, English is the most common language here | 16:56 |
Pascal | ok | 16:56 |
mhall119 | dholbach might be able to help translate though | 16:56 |
mhall119 | or dpm | 16:56 |
dholbach | Pascal, Ich bin nicht mehr lange hier, aber wenn Du kannst, würde ich hier Englisch sprechen - das macht die Sache entschieden leichter. | 16:57 |
dholbach | Pascal, Worum geht's? | 16:57 |
Pascal | um Ubuntu ich weiß nicht ob ich die 64 Bit oder die 32 Bit version nehmen soll | 16:58 |
Kaleo | I thought we decided that channel was going to be french only | 16:59 |
Kaleo | we're slipping | 16:59 |
DonkeyHotei | does ubuntu-touch work on saucy? | 16:59 |
Pascal | Hallo dholbach | 16:59 |
dholbach | Pascal, das ist keine Frage, die sich um Ubuntu Touch dreht.... probier mal http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/64-Bit-Architektur?redirect=no und die Leute in #ubuntu-de können Dir sicher besser helfen | 17:00 |
Pascal | Hallo dholbach es geht um Ubuntu ich weiß nicht ob ich die 64 Bit oder die 32 Bit version nehmen soll. | 17:00 |
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dholbach | Pascal, probier den Link aus, den ich Dir geschickt habe und frag das nächste Mal vielleicht in #ubuntu-de (ein deutscher Support-Channel) - hier geht es in erster Linie um die Entwicklung von Ubuntu Touch | 17:01 |
Rienzilla | Kaleo: quoi?! | 17:02 |
Rienzilla | :) | 17:02 |
Pascal | achso ich probiere den link aus | 17:02 |
Kaleo | Rienzilla, rien :) | 17:03 |
Kaleo | mhall119, give me a couple of days or so to figure it ou | 17:03 |
Kaleo | t | 17:03 |
davmor2 | cwayne: let me get set up and grab the latest images and stuff. Then I'll get back to you | 17:04 |
Pascal | Hallo dholbach ich habe einen UEFI Bios dan mus ich doch die 64 Bit Vrsion benutzen oder? | 17:04 |
cwayne | davmor2, btw to update 4.4.2 images and stage them i got a script setup | 17:09 |
brendand | i'm getting an error when running phablet-flash ubuntu-system | 17:10 |
brendand | ERROR:phablet-flash:Backup requested but cannot be completed succesfully, try with --system-image-ready if the system is already on an Image Based Ubuntu System to force it or use --bootstrap if data saving is not important or the system is not already on an Image Based Ubuntu System. | 17:10 |
brendand | currently it's on android | 17:10 |
cwayne | brendand, add -b | 17:12 |
mhall119 | Kaleo: ok, just let me know if you can (if you can't, that's fine too) | 17:13 |
Kaleo | mhall119, I can't, I was looking at who would be good for it | 17:13 |
DonkeyHotei | does ubuntu-touch work on saucy? | 17:16 |
ogra_ | DonkeyHotei, define "work on saucy" | 17:20 |
DonkeyHotei | well, i did apt-get install ubuntu-touch after debootstrap, and it doesn't start | 17:20 |
ogra_ | on what did you install that package ? | 17:21 |
ogra_ | on a phone ? | 17:21 |
DonkeyHotei | x86 tablet | 17:21 |
ogra_ | no, that wont work currently | 17:21 |
davmor2 | cwayne: oh was it in one of the emails you sent out | 17:21 |
DonkeyHotei | what keeps it from working? | 17:21 |
ogra_ | you need the android hardware abstraction layer | 17:22 |
davmor2 | I haven't read it all yet | 17:22 |
ogra_ | Mir needs the GLES drivers | 17:22 |
cwayne | davmor2, no, haven't sent it out yet | 17:22 |
DonkeyHotei | can't just use xorg? | 17:22 |
ogra_ | no | 17:22 |
ogra_ | well, you can | 17:22 |
ogra_ | but that wont be ubuntu-touch anymore | 17:22 |
davmor2 | cwayne: can you send it out to me then please and I give it a bash | 17:23 |
ogra_ | you might be able to run unity8 on top of Xorg | 17:23 |
DonkeyHotei | installing ubuntu-touch installed xorg for me | 17:23 |
ogra_ | but you will surely have to tweak a lot | 17:23 |
ogra_ | (like the session start scripts etc) | 17:23 |
cwayne | davmor2, sure thing | 17:23 |
ogra_ | ubuntu-touch definitely has no dependency on any Xorg stuff | 17:24 |
DonkeyHotei | it seems to on amd64 | 17:24 |
ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/trusty-preinstalled-touch-i386.manifest | 17:24 |
ogra_ | oh | 17:24 |
ogra_ | amd64 | 17:24 |
davmor2 | cwayne: I'm just going to try out rsalveti 's n7 fix first | 17:24 |
ogra_ | we dont maintain that at all | 17:24 |
ogra_ | thats just broken | 17:25 |
ogra_ | (and we dont plan any amd64 images currently ... the only x86 target in the not so far future will be android based x86 tablets | 17:25 |
ogra_ | ) | 17:25 |
cwayne | davmor2, this will pull that fix | 17:26 |
DonkeyHotei | so there is no free alternative to win8 atm? | 17:26 |
davmor2 | cwayne: yeah but I want it minus anything else to ensure that it works before I pull in other stuff that might break it again :) | 17:27 |
ogra_ | DonkeyHotei, you could try a normal Ubuntu install ... with Unity7 ... but thats not that touch friendly | 17:27 |
DonkeyHotei | i meant a touch-friendly alternative | 17:28 |
ogra_ | DonkeyHotei, it is planned that Unity8 takes over the desktop in the 14.10 release, then the desktop install should work a lot better in touch mode | 17:28 |
ogra_ | for 14.04 we fully concentrate on the phone though | 17:29 |
ogra_ | (and android based tablets) | 17:29 |
DonkeyHotei | in 14.10 will there be any difference between ubuntu-touch and ubuntu-desktop? | 17:29 |
ogra_ | yes there will still be differences, but the Ui itself will eb a lot more touch friendly | 17:30 |
DonkeyHotei | what will the differences be? | 17:30 |
ogra_ | i have no crystal ball near me :) | 17:30 |
ogra_ | we are currently working on 14.04 ... | 17:31 |
ogra_ | anything for 14.10 are only plans yet | 17:31 |
ogra_ | and one of the plans is that unity7 will be gone from the desktop | 17:31 |
ogra_ | and be replaced by unity8 ... | 17:31 |
ogra_ | same for xorg | 17:31 |
DonkeyHotei | you said there are still planned to be differences | 17:31 |
ogra_ | will be replaced by Mir in 14.10 | 17:31 |
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ogra_ | no, i didnt say there are planned differences | 17:32 |
ogra_ | i did say that i assume there will be differences | 17:32 |
DonkeyHotei | oh ok | 17:32 |
ogra_ | simply because we will only replace two parts of the desktop yet | 17:32 |
ogra_ | the rest will likely still be like it is today | 17:32 |
ogra_ | the touch UI doedsnt offer a desktop mode, doesnt use deb packages etc etc | 17:33 |
DonkeyHotei | no .deb? | 17:33 |
ogra_ | it will take a few releases until all that stuff moved into the desktop space | 17:33 |
ogra_ | 14.10 will just be the first one seeing changes in that direction | 17:33 |
ogra_ | and even for that ... it is only plans yet | 17:34 |
ogra_ | we need to finish 14.04 first | 17:34 |
ogra_ | before plans for 14.10 become more concrete | 17:34 |
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Kaleo | ogra_, ask me, I live in the future | 17:51 |
ogra_ | lol | 17:51 |
timp | Kaleo: could you please send me the changelog for the MR that I am going to submit at the end of february 2014? | 17:54 |
Kaleo | timp lol | 17:55 |
timp | mhall119: I don't live in brasil, but here we have carnival also | 17:56 |
timp | mhall119: I'll talk to zsombi tomorrow | 17:56 |
frecel | daker: ping | 18:06 |
daker | frecel: did you managed to report the bugs ? | 18:06 |
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frecel | daker: I was just about to finish my coffee and get to it | 18:07 |
daker | frecel: ok take your time | 18:07 |
daker | frecel: we hang in #ubuntu-webapps (me & alex-abreu) | 18:08 |
Darren-Tosh | HEllo | 18:10 |
Darren-Tosh | Anyone Here? | 18:11 |
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cwayne | ogra_, got a sec for an MP? :) https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/project-rootstock-ng/mimes/+merge/206788 | 18:49 |
ogra_ | cwayne, looks ok to me ... we should put the mime test into a function later | 18:58 |
cwayne | ogra_, yeah, it can definitely be cleaner, but this was a 'holy-shit-its-not-working-lets-fix-it' type of fix :) | 18:58 |
ogra_ | what was not working exactly ? | 18:59 |
cwayne | on mine (and your machine), the mimetype was showing as application/gzip | 18:59 |
cwayne | but on other peoples it was application/x-gzip | 18:59 |
ogra_ | oh | 18:59 |
cwayne | so it was erroring out telling them they needed a valid tarball | 18:59 |
ogra_ | weird people | 18:59 |
cwayne | lol | 18:59 |
ogra_ | merged and pushed | 19:00 |
cwayne | ogra_, thank you | 19:01 |
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bersek | someone here? xD | 19:04 |
volkovmqx | hi ! | 19:22 |
basketballllll | hey | 19:27 |
bull | hello | 19:29 |
jcbjoe | when is this channel alive ? | 19:38 |
jcbjoe | and are people from the US ? | 19:38 |
ogra_ | there are some from the US some from EU | 19:38 |
jcbjoe | cool i been here a couple of days now and really no answer to my question | 19:39 |
ogra_ | (but the US celebrates "first ladies husband day" today) | 19:39 |
jcbjoe | is ubuntu-touch offical or is everything still in preview ? i have a nexus 7 i would really like to get it on < -- i heared n7 will be just supported and i have it and i really want to use ubuntu-touch | 19:39 |
ogra_ | it is pretty usable already, but still lacking some apps (no email for example) | 19:40 |
ogra_ | are you talking about a new N7 ? | 19:40 |
jcbjoe | i have a n7 2013 | 19:40 |
ogra_ | (2013 model) | 19:40 |
jcbjoe | yes | 19:40 |
ogra_ | that will only be official supported when the android 4.4 stack is used ... | 19:41 |
ogra_ | probably by end of the wweek | 19:41 |
jcbjoe | cool | 19:41 |
jcbjoe | everything else works correct ? | 19:41 |
ogra_ | we have some experimantal images https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install_UT_on_android4.4.2 | 19:41 |
ogra_ | feel free to try them | 19:41 |
barry | is ubuntu-device-flash still the command to use to flash devices? i have the ppa enabled and that command doesn't exist. phablet-flash does though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 19:44 |
barry | (unfortunately, phablet-flash tends to brick the device about every other time) | 19:45 |
ogra_ | barry, yes, it is | 19:45 |
ogra_ | sergiusens maintains it | 19:45 |
barry | ogra_: okay. where does it come from? ;) | 19:45 |
sergiusens | barry, apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash | 19:45 |
ogra_ | there should be binaries in the PPA ... i use trusty so i dont know if the PPA works | 19:46 |
barry | sergiusens: hmm, maybe my apt-cache is out of date :( it didn't show me | 19:46 |
sergiusens | barry, for system images all it does is download a full image and write an ubuntu_commands for it | 19:46 |
barry | sergiusens: ah, okay. is that essentially what phablet-flash did? | 19:46 |
sergiusens | barry, trusty? | 19:46 |
barry | sergiusens: yep, trusty | 19:47 |
sergiusens | barry, yes, but ordering is different and it's parallelized | 19:47 |
sergiusens | barry, it's in the archives for trusty | 19:47 |
barry | sergiusens: okay, cool. i've got it installed now. hopefully i won't run into the same problems as phablet-flash | 19:47 |
sergiusens | *** 0.2+14.04.20140207-0ubuntu1 0 | 19:47 |
sergiusens | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages | 19:47 |
barry | sergiusens: thanks | 19:47 |
jcbjoe | ogra_, im a n00b to ubuntu-touch im assuming i installed ubuntu on parallels once done i can just follow hwat you sent me right ? | 19:48 |
sergiusens | I use it almost everydays with no issues | 19:48 |
sergiusens | barry, if you find a problem, please tell me about it | 19:49 |
ogra_ | jcbjoe, yes, should work | 19:49 |
ogra_ | as long as your desktop is using ubuntu it should be fine ... | 19:49 |
barry | sergiusens: will do. but yeah, it's strange. about every 2nd or 3rd time i'm flashing it, the process fails for some reason and the device just boot-infloops on the google logo. i have to flash back to android to fix it | 19:49 |
jcbjoe | ogyou said mail isn't working ( native app) but everything else is fine correct ? | 19:53 |
jcbjoe | oops | 19:53 |
jcbjoe | ogra_,* | 19:53 |
ogra_ | well, there arent apps for everything yet ... | 19:54 |
ogra_ | you really should try it to get an impression yourself | 19:54 |
jcbjoe | ok cool | 19:58 |
jcbjoe | i wonder if anyone uses it as a daily driver | 19:58 |
jcbjoe | when this concept came out last year i was so happy | 19:58 |
jcbjoe | but my devices really didn't work and now i have this n7 and im re-excited | 19:59 |
barry | sergiusens: does ubuntu-device-flash have a verbose mode? i can't tell if it's doing anything. i know the docs say "this step can take a very long time", but some progress indicators would be helpful | 19:59 |
sergiusens | barry, you want a spinner for pushing? | 20:03 |
barry | sergiusens: probably downloading and pushing i guess. anything to tell me "hey, i'm working on it!" | 20:04 |
sergiusens | barry, would be good to see the recovery logs when that happens | 20:04 |
sergiusens | barry, downloading is verbose | 20:04 |
barry | sergiusens: even if it was tied to a --verbose flag | 20:04 |
barry | sergiusens: hmm, okay, so i guess it's not doing anything then. `ubuntu-device-flash --channel trusty --revision 174 --bootstrap` just sits there | 20:04 |
sergiusens | barry, ahh; I guess I can add an, waiting for fastboot | 20:05 |
sergiusens | barry, --bootstrap is meant to run from the bootloader | 20:05 |
sergiusens | it's in the man and wiki | 20:05 |
barry | sergiusens: yep, that would help | 20:05 |
barry | sergiusens: okay, i'll update my script further (i was using --bootstrap from phablet-flash but maybe --wipe is better) | 20:06 |
sergiusens | barry, yeah, wipe is basically adding format to ubuntu_commands | 20:06 |
barry | sergiusens: okay, that makes sense, thanks. so first install needs bootloader and --bootstrap, and then after that --wipe | 20:07 |
barry | yep, and now i see download progress | 20:07 |
barry | sergiusens: got it, thanks | 20:07 |
ajalkane | with all these cmake changes, what's the proper way to build a click package for emulator? If I do it from QtCreator I get in the .click package *.desktop.in, not the actual *.desktop | 20:07 |
sergiusens | barry, yeah; bootstrap for when another thing was previously on; no args is normal operation and wipe is to format data | 20:07 |
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sergiusens | barry, I'll add a message to the --bootstrap option; you are not the first one (it's also in the help btw) | 20:08 |
barry | sergiusens: "do this from fastboot" could probably use some elaboration yeah | 20:09 |
CountryfiedLinux | Is Ubuntu Touch GNU? | 20:22 |
ajalkane | CountryfiedLinux: At least the core apps are GPLv3 I think | 20:24 |
CountryfiedLinux | oh ok thanks ajalkane | 20:24 |
ajalkane | I think GPL is the default, though it's possible some components are under some other license. | 20:25 |
Akiva-Mobile | will this run http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/sys/4316317091.html? | 21:06 |
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tomlabirt | hi all. I'm trying to flash the ubuntu to my galaxy nexus phone. I followed the instructions on this website until the 4th step: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install, but the system cannot find the following command: ubuntu-device-flash | 21:46 |
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tomlabirt | anyone who can help me in this problem? | 21:46 |
Elleo | tomlabirt: looks like that page needs updating you also need to apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash | 21:49 |
Elleo | it used to be done via phablet-flash which was included in the phablet-tools package (which is in the instructions) | 21:50 |
tomlabirt | thank you, and the arguments are the same? So i can use: phablet-flash --channel devel --bootstrap ? | 21:53 |
tomlabirt | sorry. it seems to be i missunderstood what you wrote. So the phablet-flash command was the old method, and now i should use the ubuntu-device-flash? | 21:55 |
Elleo | tomlabirt: yes, now you should use ubuntu-device-flash | 21:58 |
Elleo | you just need to run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash' first | 21:58 |
tomlabirt | and which package contains this | 21:59 |
Elleo | the package is just called ubuntu-device-flash | 21:59 |
tomlabirt | ? | 21:59 |
tomlabirt | i tried to install it but no success | 21:59 |
Elleo | have you added the phablet-team/tools ppa? | 22:00 |
Elleo | and done an apt-get update since adding it? | 22:00 |
tomlabirt | no | 22:00 |
Elleo | tomlabirt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_1_-_Desktop_Setup | 22:00 |
Elleo | (except with the addition of ubuntu-device-flash in the install line) | 22:01 |
tomlabirt | ohh. . many thanks. I skipped this line. I dont know why. | 22:02 |
Elleo | easy enough to do :) | 22:02 |
tomlabirt | and what are the differences between the channels? | 22:05 |
tomlabirt | if I'am not a developer, and I just want to try how it looks what should i choose? | 22:06 |
Elleo | the channels determine how experimental things are, so saucy is the last stable release and won't really change much | 22:07 |
mrgoodcat | i can't get the ubuntu touch templates to show up in the sdk. I have tried a few "solutions" from the internet but nothing has worked. anybody have this issue? | 22:07 |
Elleo | whereas devel changes frequently (so it has more features, but might break stuff from time to time) | 22:08 |
Elleo | and devel-proposed is very experimental | 22:08 |
mrgoodcat | i made sure i'm using qt5 and the ubuntu plugins are loading. i just don't see the templates | 22:09 |
Elleo | mrgoodcat: you don't happen to have or had something like the nokia meego qt sdk installed as well do you? I seem to remember that causing some issues with the ubuntu sdk for me a while back | 22:10 |
mrgoodcat | no nothing like that | 22:10 |
mrgoodcat | its almost a clean install of 13.10 | 22:10 |
Elleo | in that case I haven't a clue I'm afraid | 22:11 |
mrgoodcat | this has happened to me multiple times... i've never gotten the sdk to work | 22:11 |
mrgoodcat | on multiple different computers | 22:11 |
tomlabirt | i executed the following command: ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel --bootstrap, but no reaction. | 22:18 |
om26er | dialer-app is opening in landscape on my desktop, HELP ? | 22:18 |
om26er | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=294026 | 22:18 |
tomlabirt | the adb devices command lists my device | 22:19 |
mrgoodcat | i just spun a fresh vm of 12.04 and installed the sdk and can't get the touch templates | 22:20 |
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mrgoodcat | i'm done with this for the day. thanks Elleo for trying to help | 22:30 |
Elleo | mrgoodcat: no worries, sorry I couldn't be more use | 22:32 |
Elleo | tomlabirt: by no reaction do you mean no output at all? | 22:32 |
mrgoodcat | at least you tried | 22:33 |
mrgoodcat | i've never had so much trouble trying to get help from the ubuntu community. maybe i just picked the wrong time of day to try... | 22:33 |
paupav | hi | 22:33 |
paupav | can i get ubuntu touch update on my galaxy nexus? | 22:34 |
paupav | the latest one | 22:34 |
Elleo | mrgoodcat: I suspect part of the problem is that a lot fewer people have deep knowledge about the sdk stuff than about most ubuntu related things | 22:35 |
Elleo | mrgoodcat: so you need to be lucky enough to catch one of the few people who know what they're talking about ;) | 22:35 |
mrgoodcat | i suppose that is possible. i'm just in an awful mood right now from trying to get this figured out | 22:35 |
tomlabirt | Elleo: Yes. No output at all. | 22:49 |
Elleo | sorry, I'm not sure what could be up then | 22:52 |
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isantop | Is there any way to get Ubuntu Touch (or Unity8 with a log-in session) on an x86 tablet? | 23:07 |
beuno | isantop, Unity8 on x86 is something that's being worked on | 23:21 |
beuno | I'm not sure where that work is | 23:21 |
beuno | jasoncwarner may, if he's around (which he shouldn't!) | 23:21 |
isantop | Is there anything to play with today, or is it all focused on ARM? | 23:22 |
isantop | I can think of a particular company that's eager to sell Ubuntu tablets. | 23:22 |
jasoncwarner | isantop we haven't landed the preview session for 14.04 desktop yet. it's being worked. you can always get the touch image and try it out on a tablet. | 23:22 |
RAOF | beuno: You can *install* it now, but I don't know to what extent it works ;) | 23:23 |
beuno | isantop, will let us know soon! | 23:23 |
beuno | *hint* | 23:23 |
jasoncwarner | RAOF :) | 23:23 |
isantop | Not-working is fine. I just need something to show to the higher-ups. | 23:24 |
jcbjoe | finally got ubuntu on this machine | 23:29 |
mhall119 | isantop: if you can get Ubuntu desktop running on the tablet, you can run Unity 8 in a maximized window to give at least an idea of how it feels | 23:34 |
isantop | mhall119, That's easy enough; I've already got Ubuntu Desktop on it. | 23:42 |
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