=== duflu_ is now known as duflu [05:11] I use an external monitor with my laptop periodically. Often when this happens a window willi 'disappear'. Right now I can't find sublime. If I hit alt + tab, I can see the sublime icon.. when I select it, nothing shows up. [05:11] Is this a bug? Is there a way to force an app to show in unity? [05:11] I know if I kill sublime and then open it, it will work. Though that seems silly [05:11] I don't have additional work spaces enabled afaict [05:12] I have basically all the defaults for unity [08:06] tsdgeos, o/ [08:08] \o [08:14] Saviq: o/ [08:14] Saviq: how did the snow thing went? [08:14] tsdgeos, pretty good, thanks :) [08:14] tsdgeos, all extremities present and working [08:14] good stuff [08:15] tsdgeos, let me know when you can hangout/mumble to catch up [08:15] deleting emails [08:15] giive me 5 mins [08:16] lol [08:16] i mean reading ^_^ [08:33] Saviq: ready, what you want to do? [08:34] tsdgeos, let's hang out, gimme a sec [08:37] tsdgeos, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpjurc16fos5ado5tbg00pis? [08:48] welcome back Saviq [08:48] Cimi, hey [09:10] mhr3: Saviq: what's your opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1280477 ? I thought we were supposed to have previews of everything [09:10] Launchpad bug 1280477 in Unity 8 "[new scopes] Don't show an empty preview if the preview is null" [Undecided,New] [09:11] tsdgeos, indeed, scope not returning previews are incomplete scopes [09:12] mhr3, will you comment on the bug please? [09:12] mhr3, o/ btw [09:12] in the process [09:12] Saviq, wb! [09:19] Saviq: welcome back :) [09:19] karni, o/ [09:53] Saviq, hey [09:53] Saviq, to follow up on the carousel thing [09:53] Saviq, I noticed the minimum number to show it was decreased on the new scopes branch [09:53] Saviq, however this breaks because of the width thing [09:54] Cimi, yes, we need it to be dynamic [09:54] Saviq, best would be calculating this magic minimum number before loading I think [09:55] how? dunno yet, I can spend time to see if I have an idea [09:55] Cimi, I just replied to the bug - CardTool is there for that [09:55] Saviq, I saw [09:55] Saviq, card tool will have a function to have the carousel count? [09:56] Cimi, no, it just gives you the width, based on that you can calculate how many items are required [09:56] Cimi, only now it's "inside" CardCarousel / CardFilterGrid etc.., but we might need to move it up [09:56] Cimi, or actually make CardCarousel handle that internally (I think I'd prefer that) [09:56] Cimi, instead of GenericScopeView itself [09:57] ok [09:57] mzanetti: now that https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/lvwph_resize_item_bug/+merge/206140 CI passes do you think you can do it? Or should i nag someone else to review? [09:58] tsdgeos: sure, will do [09:58] tx [10:00] mzanetti, thostr_ reported a "ghost" grey app in the right edge stack, rings a bell? [10:00] Saviq: hmm, no, haven't seen that so far [10:00] Saviq: well, yeah... it somewhat rings a bell indeed [10:00] mzanetti, ok, /me runs the ppa to see [10:01] Saviq: most likely he started multiple apps very quickly without waiting for each one to start up [10:01] Saviq: that messes up with upstart/unity-mir states quite badly [10:01] Saviq: even to an extent where apps paint on the wrong surface etc [10:01] like: 5 running apps, 2 surfaces they all paint on etc [10:02] mzanetti: Saviq: I just rebooted and the grey page is gone now... [10:02] thostr_: could it be that this happened ^^ [10:02] ? [10:02] mzanetti: yes, I started a lot of apps quickly [10:03] thostr_: yeah.. this is known and happens in trunk too [10:03] Saviq, so re scope activation - we have two cases, activating a scope that's already favourited, and one that isn't yet, i could add signals for both of these cases [10:03] thostr_: its just bad that showing off the right edge makes you want to start multiple apps while you don't usually do that otherwise [10:04] mhr3, so the activation would come from the scope in that case (as opposed to shell-internal)? [10:04] mhr3, how would we discern between that and preview? [10:04] Saviq, it's similar to the other activation types (hideDash() etc) [10:05] and for preview you get previewRequested(result) [10:05] which needs to be hooked up btw [10:07] mhr3, yeah, what I mean is: how do we discern between single-click-to-activate vs. single-click-to-preview [10:07] mhr3, right now we have click scope hardcoded to activate instead of preview [10:07] we always default to single-click to preview, and exceptions are very specific and i don't think scopes should be able to request them [10:08] so only click and scopes scope will have them [10:08] mhr3, so hardcoded again? [10:08] mhr3, ok [10:08] yes [10:08] otherwise it'll be a mess [10:10] Saviq, so, i can add signals gotoScope(string scopeId) and openScope(Scope*) [10:10] mhr3, sounds fine [10:10] Saviq, plus method scopeClosed(Scope*) for the temp one? [10:10] rather closeScope(Scope*) [10:11] which is basically - i don't need it anymore, destroy it [10:18] mhr3, why would you need to send that? [10:18] Saviq, i don't, i want you to *call* it [10:19] mhr3, ah [10:20] mhr3, or you could not own the Scope* from openScope() and QML would destroy it? [10:20] tsdgeos, so, I [10:20] 've no running apps in click scope from right-edge ppa, ideas? [10:20] Saviq, that's error-prone with signals, what if there's noone listening to it? [10:21] mhr3, right [10:21] mhr3, ok, sounds good [10:21] ok, /me goes hacking [10:22] Saviq: not really, can you try the demo-stuff ppa? [10:22] tsdgeos, mhm, doing [10:22] is it possible that click in right-edge is old? [10:22] thostr_, ^? [10:22] mhr3, there is no click scope in right-edge indeed [10:23] Saviq, wget from demo-stuff then [10:23] mhr3, but then -click is newer in trusty [10:23] oh, nvm then [10:24] FYI guys, I decided to take today off and get more rest after returning yesterday from States. I'll catch you in the evening/tomorrow. [10:24] karni, o/ [10:24] \o [10:30] what does new scopes require? [10:30] the branch [10:31] I merged it into unity8 and it complains for not dxisting nativeOrientationAngle [10:33] Cimi, sounds like unity-mir [10:34] need new uitk i think [10:34] well not need [10:34] err [10:34] i mean [10:34] well not new but the one from demo-stuff [10:34] ah yeah, it's in MainView [10:34] Cimi, ↑↑ new uitk from demo-stuff PPA [10:34] Cimi: i just added a needs fixing comment to the Reviews review [10:35] tsdgeos, not thanks [10:35] hah [10:35] sorry ^_^ [10:36] tsdgeos, you right [10:36] doing it [10:54] mzanetti, what branch is unity8 in https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/phone-right-edge/+packages built from? [10:55] Saviq: one sec [10:55] Saviq: lp:~unity-team/unity8/merge-new-scopes-right-edge-2 [10:57] mzanetti, btw, still misses deps to require unity-api / unity-mir upgrade - I could upgrade unity8 alone and apt won't complain [10:57] Saviq: yep, I know... will fix [10:58] mzanetti, want me to create a recipe to build that branch (it's behind for the running apps in click scope apparently) [10:59] Saviq: I think there actually is already one... but I'm not exactly sure how those work [11:00] mzanetti, ah, it failed to buiold [11:00] oh.. interesting [11:00] * Saviq fixes [11:00] Saviq: where did you see that? [11:00] mzanetti, there's a conflict in Shell.qml [11:00] https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/+recipe/u8-phone-right-edge [11:01] Saviq: you merging that? [11:01] mzanetti, yes [11:01] ok [11:39] I have to reinstall ubuntu because of new xorg... sorry guys [11:41] Cimi, what about the new xorg? [11:41] seb128, doesn't work with parallels [11:41] mzanetti, can you file a bug for the "too many apps launched too quickly" against unity-mir (and mir?) so that we don't lose track? [11:41] Cimi, what is parallels? [11:42] seb128, virtualization software [11:42] can't you use another one? [11:42] vmware, virtualbox, ...? [11:42] (or not use it at all) [11:42] seb128, it's the best I tried on os x [11:43] oh, you run Ubuntu in a vm on OsX? [11:43] I'm going for the latter [11:43] I want to buy a desktop pc to keep home [11:43] and use ubuntu [11:43] shrug [11:43] well, you can't blame your OsX vm not working on Ubuntu [11:43] or on xorg updates [11:44] seb128, I used to have ubuntu and osx, but two years ago wifi stop working on ubuntu [11:44] seb128, so I removed ubuntu and started using VMs [11:44] which are quite handy to be honest [11:44] you can pause your work and restore where you left [11:45] until it stops working because the VM stuff doesn't like what is in the VM... [11:45] indeed [11:45] so I'm putting 13.10 and not update [11:45] mzanetti, ok, so your right-edge changes are incompatible with the running apps override, can you guys please look at it? [11:45] tsdgeos, ↑ [11:45] yeah... [11:45] Cimi, that's not a solution/wrong, everybody should be running the current version [11:46] Cimi, start using vmware or something that works, or just install Ubuntu on a different partition [11:46] Cimi: i don't think you can use 13.10 at this stage for all the stuff we do [11:46] mzanetti: Saviq: ouch [11:46] Cimi, indeed, you need to be on trusty [11:47] tsdgeos: does your implementation still use the ApplicationManagerWrapper? [11:47] Saviq, tsdgeos I'll use the other pc then [11:47] no problem [11:47] it's on trusty [11:47] just slower [11:47] Cimi: or just pin x not to update [11:47] Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-mir/+bug/1281075 [11:47] Launchpad bug 1281075 in unity-mir "quickly starting multiple apps breaks ApplicationManager" [Undecided,New] [11:47] mzanetti: hmm, i guess :D [11:47] mzanetti, thanks [11:48] tsdgeos: yeah... so, that one has gone... And we only have one model now (not sidestage/mainstage models) [11:48] mzanetti: fix it then :-P [11:48] mzanetti: this is what i did https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/apps-special-category/+merge/205738 [11:49] mzanetti: you just need to change countObject and make sure RunningApplicationsGrid.qml works [11:49] mzanetti: i can have a look if you want [11:49] tsdgeos: hmm... doesn't look that bad actually [11:50] tsdgeos: I fixed RunningApplicationsGrid already [11:50] mzanetti, then it's probably just the countObject [11:50] tsdgeos: seems we just need to merge lines 50 and 51 [11:50] right, and the count should be ApplicationManager.count instead of ms.count + ss.count [11:50] tsdgeos, can I pin x to upgrade till a specific version? [11:51] tsdgeos, I'm on 13.10 [11:51] Cimi: i don't know much about pinning tbh [11:51] Saviq: tsdgeos: the bigger question is how/where to merge it to keep track of the branches [11:51] tsdgeos, not sure the archives have history [11:51] mzanetti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1240400 this one is similar [11:51] Launchpad bug 1240400 in mir (Ubuntu) "dialer-app crashed with SIGSEGV in __GI___pthread_mutex_lock()" [Critical,In progress] [11:51] mzanetti, indeed [11:51] i know you can do it, since i pinned twinkle not to update [11:51] because we can't merge it into new-scopes yet, we can't merge it into right-edge-2 yet [11:51] mzanetti, just leave it in new-scopes-right-edge [11:52] +1 [11:52] definitely ok for MWC. but: this gets nasty if both, right-edge and new-scopes still need a while to land to trunk [11:53] mzanetti, "a while" for new scopes will not be huge [11:53] mzanetti, like a week, maybe two past mwc [11:53] ah ok. no prob in that case [11:53] * mzanetti fixes the merged branch [11:54] /food [11:59] Saviq, mhr3 hi, i was wondering if something changed in unity or anything?? the same scopes that on friday were showing previews, now they doesn't work, i already upgraded my system, unity and the scope branches, rebuild everything.... and still not showing any preview [12:01] tsdgeos, why do I need trusty? [12:01] Cimi: because we depend on lots of stuff like the toolkit, scopes, etc that i don't think have been released in 13.10 [12:05] tsdgeos, hi, i was wondering if something changed in unity or anything?? the same scopes that on friday were showing previews, now they doesn't work, i already upgraded my system, unity and the scope branches, rebuild everything.... and still not showing any preview [12:05] gatox: not that i know [12:06] gatox: but if you tell me what scope i can try having a look (if it's not too hard to setup) [12:07] tsdgeos, please: lp:~diegosarmentero/unity-scope-click/all-previews (sudo apt-get build-dep unity-scope-click) should install the deps [12:08] gatox: phone, destkop or both? [12:08] tsdgeos, desktop [12:08] ok [12:08] gatox, hm, no nothing major changed [12:08] tsdgeos, should work on both, but i'm testing on desktop right now [12:08] sure [12:08] gatox, well... do you have latest uitk? [12:08] gatox, but if you didn't unity wouldn't even run [12:09] (including the scope-tool) [12:09] gatox, any errors you get? [12:09] mhr3, yes, i upgraded everything this morning [12:10] mhr3, i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6948482/ [12:10] but there was always some output about failing properties in unity [12:11] i'm not sure which ones are actually new [12:11] gatox, you don't have latest unity-plugin-scopes [12:11] it's in demo ppa [12:11] mhr3, i have that ppa.... and i upgraded everything this morning :S [12:12] apt-cache policy [12:12] gatox, ah, they were releasing unity7, that overridden the latest version [12:12] mhr3, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6948485/ [12:13] gatox, i meant `apt-cache policy unity-plugin-scopes` [12:13] mhr3, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6948488/ [12:14] gatox, yea, force the ppa version [12:14] gatox, `apt-get install unity-plugin-scopes=0.3.1+14.04.20140211.1-1newscopes1~51~ubuntu14.04.1` [12:15] gatox, anyway, it will fix itself once unity7 is properly released [12:15] these transitions suck :/ [12:16] mhr3, mmm trying to force the version gaves me unmet dependencies with libunity-core [12:16] sigh, then you need to wait [12:16] mhr3, is going to take long?? just to know [12:17] gatox, no, i got pinged 5minutes ago that it's almost released, just need to wait for the merge to trunk to happen and will rebuild the ppa pkg [12:17] ~20minutes [12:17] ahhhhhhhhhhh, restart scope-registry restarted by unity again [12:18] gatox: works for me [12:18] oh, seems you found the problem meanwhile [12:18] mhr3, tsdgeos ack.... thanks to both [12:18] gatox, you upgrade too often :P [12:18] :P [12:19] gatox, do you have proposed enabled btw? [12:19] gatox, cause this wouldn't happen until an hour ago if you didn't [12:19] mhr3, yes [12:19] dammit, stupid internet, irc keeps falling over === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:47] Saviq: something is defenitely off, we are creating 154 cards when expanding the click scope [12:47] when only like 6 fit on screen === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:08] Saviq, won't that be auto-fixed with the show more | show less? [13:08] tsdgeos, eh ^ [13:13] tsdgeos, so delegate ranges wrong? [13:13] mhr3, not necessarily, if the scope sends too many results, it could still happen [13:14] mhr3, i.e. we're probably not going to put it through LimitProxy any more, since we can just let the *View handle it internally [13:14] Saviq, show more is supposed to increase the number of results in increments, not like now limited -> unlimited [13:14] mhr3, unrelated [13:15] ok :) [13:15] mhr3, what tsdgeos is saying is that we're creating all of them even though not all of them are on screen [13:15] mhr3, which needs fixing [13:16] tsdgeos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6948704/ [13:18] Saviq: hmm... as of today, unity always crashes when the screen blanks with: what(): error during hwc set() [13:18] the merged branch that is [13:18] mzanetti, mako? [13:18] yes [13:18] mzanetti, didn't see that at all [13:18] ok... [13:19] mzanetti, try in #ubuntu-mir === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:31] mzanetti: hey, do you mean it crashes on pwr button hit or timeout ? or both ? [13:32] and mir landed back on feb 12...hadn't changed since === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === Pici` is now known as Pici [13:41] kgunn: hmm... seems only to happen on timeout. but there are chances that something doesn't match in my device setup [13:42] mzanetti: you know...one other change that didn't really come from the mir team...was that nested mir [13:42] got added [13:42] means using 1 mir for unity8 and then unity-system-compositor gets its own mir [13:43] ah, ok. interesting. might be related [13:43] i would have thot ogra would have tested that...hmmm [13:43] and it might be racy [13:43] kgunn: correction: happens when pressing the power button too [13:43] but only with the very latest merged-new-scopes-right-edge-2 aparently [13:43] so its not 100%.... [13:44] I'll dig deeper... maybe something with my setup here indeed [13:44] mzanetti: ok, i'll let you dig a bit...kdub would be best to pull in on it [13:45] oh crap...kdub likely off today [13:46] US holiday... [13:50] kgunn: the build recipe for the merged branch, should that trigger on its own or do I manually run it when I push something to the branch? [13:55] mzanetti: i think it autotriggers once a day (if there are changes on the base branch)...so if you want it updated, you can hit "request build" on the recipe [13:55] ok, thanks [13:56] mhr3, where do we add -scopes and -mediascanner2 so that they get pulled in? should we branch libunity? [13:57] kgunn, ↑ [14:00] greyback, cwayne reports no launcher on landscape N7, that known? [14:00] Cimi: looks reasonable [14:01] tsdgeos, go ahead review then :) [14:01] Saviq: hmmm, printing the delegaterange looks ok, i need to dig more to find out what's the problem [14:01] Saviq: I'm using and there's a launcher [14:01] greyback, /me installing now, let's see [14:01] tsdgeos, please do, thanks [14:02] Saviq, so i found that if you swipe from the very top left you can get it [14:02] cwayne: on what screen? [14:04] greyback, any [14:06] cwayne: on dash, or with a main stage app open, I can open launcher no prob. I updated the n7 this morning, using the dmeo-stuff PPA. Same? [14:06] greyback, when i originally reported it it was a slightly older image, let me try and reproduce today [14:06] greyback, i believe it was with just a sidestage open [14:07] cwayne: you're right in that with a single side stage app open, the launcher is not available. bug 1281094 [14:07] bug 1281094 in Unity 8 "[sidestage] open SS app, left edge swipe not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281094 [14:07] greyback, cwayne, I can't get launcher on greeter, otherwise seems to work fine [14:07] cwayne: think same on greeter screen [14:08] and GU is much too big on the N7, btw [14:08] IMO [14:08] Saviq: I didn't choose it. I'm assuming somebody qualified did? [14:09] greyback, wasn't directed at you [14:09] greyback, good question, too [14:10] Saviq: who did the music player preview control again? [14:10] thostr_, Cimi [14:11] Cimi: is it a bug or a feature that music player preview control doesn't show anything but a play button by default? [14:11] thostr_, no title etc.? bug [14:11] Cimi: once it's playing I get a least a timeline, even though no time, no title etc [14:12] Saviq: right, there is nothing [14:12] thostr_, or maybe it's there, but white on white? [14:12] Saviq: it's looks, well, suboptimal... [14:12] thostr_, definitely needs fixing [14:12] Saviq, I think we're using the wrong theme [14:12] Saviq: YES, ;you're right [14:12] it's actually white font [14:12] Saviq, we should stop using surudark [14:13] Saviq, and use Ambiance [14:13] Cimi, dash should, not the whole shell [14:13] Cimi, but we can't, not until we extract the dash from the shell [14:13] so what do we do? [14:13] Saviq, the widgets are using the right colours from the palette [14:13] Cimi, hardcode colors in new-scopes branch for now (+ TODO) [14:13] ok [14:14] Saviq, which are the shell parts incompatible with Ambiance? [14:14] Saviq, indicators? [14:14] Saviq: Cimi: also, what about horizontal separator as seen at https://drive.google.com/a/canonical.com/?tab=co#folders/0B-a_7E3tDxOgTTBybG1TZG9GWnM (dash_music_preview_song) [14:14] Cimi, yes, and launcher [14:15] https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B-a_7E3tDxOgUUY0MjFTQThBZFE/edit [14:15] greyback, bug #1281082 [14:15] bug 1281082 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Empty sidestage pops out when not wanted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281082 [14:15] greyback, is dupe, right? [14:15] Saviq: probably [14:15] Saviq: dandrader looking into it now [14:15] thostr_, the separators are somewhat tricky, there's no ruleset on where to put them, and where not to [14:16] Saviq: sure, I just thought we could make them up for demo for now [14:16] Saviq: we cannot rely on design for everything right now... [14:16] thostr_, lol ;) [14:17] :) [14:17] so, will you get this fixed? [14:18] thostr_, yeah, we'll hack something up, seems "around text and audio widgets" would be good enough approximation of what we need [14:18] exactly. great. thanks! [14:19] Cimi, can you have a look at ↑↑? [14:19] Saviq, carousel or this? [14:19] Saviq, was looking into carousel === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:19] Cimi, keep on doing carousel for now, separators are simple [14:20] greyback, bug #1281092 - side stage width is fine [14:20] bug 1281092 in Unity 8 "[sidestage] app lens screenshots have bad aspect ratio (is side stage width correct?)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281092 [14:21] greyback, but in RunningApplicationsGrid we're assuming aspect ratio of the N10 [14:21] Saviq: well I was a bit worried as some apps don't fit in it (e.g. sudoku - need to check if it's using GU or not) [14:22] greyback, I'd say that's because of the wrong GU, the side stage is too small in height [14:22] greyback, cwayne, no launcher on N10 either, so it seems to be the tablet-style greeter's fault [14:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1281122 [14:22] Launchpad bug 1281122 in Unity 8 "[tablet] unable to open launcher on greeter" [Undecided,New] [14:23] ah [14:24] Saviq, i was asking if we could just seed them [14:25] mhr3, they're never seeded, we can make unity8 depends on them in new-scopes [14:25] mhr3, but libunity was the "right" way until now [14:26] Saviq, but seeding them manually sounded like good enough solution for now [14:27] but yea, we should have a meta-pkg solution like we did with libunity-scopes* [14:28] mhr3, well, we only want them on new-scopes for now, and seeding them there basically means we need to branch lp:ubuntu-touch or whatever the seed is [14:28] greyback, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu/+bug/1204595/comments/5 [14:28] Launchpad bug 1204595 in unity-mir "Unity 8 does not properly parse legitimate desktop files" [Medium,In progress] [14:29] Saviq, i don't see reason why we couldn't have them in the old-scopes image too [14:29] mhr3, so we can have them in lp:libunity, then [14:29] mhr3, although that would pull all the new unity-scopes unnecessarily for now [14:29] no, libunity pkg definitions are complicated [14:30] mhr3, ok, I'm adding to Recommends in new-scopes for now, then [14:30] Saviq, is doing that really fixing anything? [14:30] @unity: standup [14:31] mhr3, yes, they actually end up in the image built from demo-stuff [14:31] (would) [14:31] Saviq, oh, we're indeed building an image from there? [14:31] cwayne, ↑ [14:31] then i'm fine with it [14:31] mhr3, yes [14:36] Saviq: replied. All good [14:39] yeah, we're building a rootstock image with demo-stuff atm [14:40] Saviq: cwayne: regarding launcher on tablet greeter, there's explicit code to disable launcher for multi-user greeter in shell. Maybe it was intended? [14:41] greyback, hum, mzanetti, thoughts ↑? [14:42] one sec. on a meeting [14:46] greyback: Saviq: cwayne: so yes. it is intended IF the greeter is locked [14:47] note there is a difference between locked and shown [14:47] locked means, it cannot be swiped away with a right-edge swipe [14:47] hi, does any one knows how to change the card size in the scope results?? any pointers? [14:47] because you need to supply the passwd [14:47] mzanetti, right, so a bug [14:47] gatox, "card-size": "small" [14:48] Saviq, where is that?? is it part of the scope code or unity? [14:48]