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Kiloscremora minora05:12
Symmetriamorning06:08
ThatGraemeGuymorning06:15
Kilosmorning ThatGraemeGuy 06:15
Symmetriaheh I asked a question in an assignment for a training course I was giving06:20
Symmetriaand while everyone in the class seemed to do fine on the assignment06:20
Symmetriamy one question seems to have tripped up 85% of the class06:20
Symmetrialol, only 4 people actually got the right answer 06:20
Kiloshi Xethron 06:50
magespawngood morning all06:58
Kiloshgi magespawn 06:59
Kiloshi as well06:59
magespawnindeed06:59
Kilosfingers musta put on wieght06:59
Kilosweight06:59
KilosMaaz_ change nick to Maaz07:08
Maaz_Kilos: Just do it yourself07:09
Kiloshi superfly have you got permissions with maaz?07:09
superflyKilos: some07:11
Kilosadminj?07:12
Kilosadmin too?07:12
Kiloswhew typos today07:12
superflyMaaz_: change nick to Maaz07:14
Maaz_superfly: You're not the boss of me07:14
Kilosai!07:14
Kiloscheeky bot07:14
Kilosty superfly 07:14
magespawnlol let Maaz_ have his tail maybe he like it07:23
magespawnlikes07:24
Kiloshaha07:24
Kiloshi nlsthzn smile 08:16
nlsthznalo uncle Kilos08:18
smilehi :)08:27
Kiloshi Vince-0 08:32
Vince-0Sup kbmonkey_ 08:35
Vince-0I mean Kilos 08:35
Kiloslol08:35
Kilosall good ty and there Vince-0 ?08:35
Kilosthe monkey been inactive for too long now08:35
KilosMaaz_ seen kbmonkey08:38
Maaz_Kilos: kbmonkey was last seen 23 days, 15 hours, 7 minutes and 10 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-01-24 19:30:56 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-02-13 04:19:07 SAST08:38
Vince-0work work08:47
Vince-0busy updating discussion notes for a next LUG hangout:08:47
Kilosis that work?08:47
Vince-0https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLDFU0bpqVM64W1LXbR7apLiZM-Kwlf04_kM3vbixg0/edit?usp=sharing08:48
Vince-0oh no, this keeps me busy at work08:48
Kiloslug and work are apart arent they08:48
Kiloslol08:48
Vince-0not in my life, otherwise I'd fall asleep at my desk08:49
Kiloshaha08:49
Vince-0I spend most of the day reading online,08:51
Kiloswow08:51
Kilosserious job you got08:51
Vince-0I could probably do a part time journalist type thing lol08:51
Vince-0ya it's serious, just unorganised and without vision08:51
Kilosdoesnt anything ever break there08:51
Vince-0occasionally, but it's always a recurring issue with gets put out in 5 mins08:52
Kiloswhat do you do Vince-0 and for what company08:52
Vince-0primarily VoIP with Asterisk, Vicidial, FreePBX 08:52
Vince-0MySQL, MariaDB08:53
Vince-0but nothing new in a while08:53
Vince-0lol you must be "anonymous capybara" in Google Docs08:54
Kilosah similar to magespawn but not on a game ranch08:54
Vince-0there's lots of call centers in Durban08:54
magespawnhi Vince-0 08:55
Vince-0hi!08:55
Vince-0*brb08:55
Vince-0noobs! surrounded by noobs09:02
Kiloslol09:02
Vince-0these call center people know nothing about the systems they use09:03
Kilosthey just gotta answer fones anyway09:04
Kilosdo they get paid a decent wage for that09:04
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Vince-0nope, not the agents - they do what ever they want09:04
Vince-0its the "IT" guys in the middle09:05
Kilosare those that answer the fones called agents?09:05
Vince-0yep09:13
Vince-0they usually start at R3000 basic + comm09:14
Kilosouch09:14
Kilostoday thats nothing09:14
Vince-0let's just say "skilled" agents are sought after but they're a dime a dozen09:14
magespawnnot too bad as long as you can sell09:14
Kilossell what?09:14
Kiloslike waitresses that rely on tips09:15
Vince-0yep, sell anything under the Sun09:17
Kiloswow09:17
Vince-0In Durban they call the UK a massive amount, put on a fake Brit accent - its pretty annoying 09:17
Kiloslol09:18
Vince-0ZA campaigns are usually The Unlimited World - loyalty programs, insurance etc09:18
Vince-0then there's all the crap the mobile networks don't want - CellC, Virgin, MTN, Voda - 09:18
Kilosok09:18
Kilosi hate insurance sales peeps they dont understand what no thank you means09:19
Vince-0yep, standard response is: "I'm not interested, take me off your list immediately"09:20
Kilosi think their ears are blocked to anything but yes plaease and tell me more09:21
Kilosplease09:21
Vince-0they're trained to treat every objection as a "I want more info"09:24
Kiloshahaha09:24
magespawnback again09:28
Kiloswb magespawn what you broke09:28
magespawnnah just needed to plug lan cable into another router09:28
Kilosah09:29
inetprogood mornings09:36
Vince-0!09:44
Kiloswell hello there inetpro 09:45
magespawnhowdy inetpro10:06
Vince_0aarg10:32
magespawni have just found a cisco 837 router sitting in a box10:46
magespawnnot getting much joy in connecting to it yet though, maybe that is why it was in the box10:50
Kiloslol10:50
magespawn Kilos it is one of these http://is.gd/PaqMxR10:59
Kilosso whats blown on it?11:00
magespawnnot sure, it is not assigning an ip address automatically, it's default is supposed to be 10.10.10.111:06
Symmetriamagespawn11:13
Symmetriayou need to connect to it via console11:13
Symmetriaand fix its config that way :)11:13
magespawncool beans Symmetria, i do not have a console cable with me, that i left up in hluhluwe11:15
nuvolario/11:25
Kiloso/11:25
superflySymmetria: you don't know of an open source "downloads server" ? I'm looking for something that can cache large files so that it doesn't hit my disk all the time11:53
Squirmsuperfly: maybe something like Squid cache? Not sure how well it'd work server side11:58
superflySquirm: good idea. I think Symmetria used it, or something like it, in that way before11:59
Squirmwe use it our side, but we cache in RAM and disk. makes our life much better12:00
superflyI have a VPS and I'm hosting the files for my open source project after SF.net went all wonky about 2 weeks ago. But I now get disk io warnings all the time :-/12:00
Squirmof 15Gb we used through our squid proxy on Friday. 13% was from cache12:01
superflyso I'm looking for something that can cache the files in RAM12:01
SquirmSquid does that12:01
Squirmrun it as a transparent caching proxy12:03
Squirmso what you'd have to do, is set up apache/whatever you would use to not listen on port 80 but have squid listening on port 80 and pushing everything through to another local port12:03
superflyI'm using nginx at the moment12:03
superflyactually, in some cases I'm using nginx as a reverse proxy to Apache ;-)12:04
Vince-0nuvolari, !12:16
ThatGraemeGuysuperfly: varnish perhaps?12:36
ThatGraemeGuyor the ghetto version, create a ramdisk ;-)12:37
superflyThatGraemeGuy: that may work, thanks12:42
ThatGraemeGuynp12:42
inetproyou could even use apache as a proxy12:45
inetprowith mod_proxy 12:45
* inetpro hasn't tried that though12:45
inetproat least not on a big scale12:45
Squirma ramdisk is actually quite a useful idea14:16
Squirmsuperfly: what you can also do, depending how much data you have, is use a SSD as a caching device14:16
Squirmso you have your data on your main drives, and use say a 60Gb SSD as a cache14:17
superflySquirm: this is a VPS14:17
Squirmthen surely they would need to handle that sort of service?14:18
Squirmif your drive dies it's their problem?14:18
superflywell, it's not that the drive is dying, it's just that the disk io is above the alert threshold14:19
Squirmah, ok14:20
ThatGraemeGuyyou might just have low RAM14:20
ThatGraemeGuysurely under normal circumstances it'd be in the normal cache14:21
ThatGraemeGuyunless you have low ram and the cache is being emptied constantly14:21
superflyhrm, that may be the deal14:21
superflyI don't have a lot of RAM14:22
inetprosuperfly: how many hits are we talking about?14:22
ThatGraemeGuywhat does 'free -m' have to say?14:22
superflyI have a gig of RAM and 106M free... like i said, not much14:25
ThatGraemeGuyi'm guessing "cached" is also pretty low14:25
ThatGraemeGuyin 'free -m' output14:25
superflyinetpro: probably 20-30 per day14:25
superflyThatGraemeGuy: yes, 17014:26
ThatGraemeGuyyeah that's not leaving much room for useful caching :-/14:26
ThatGraemeGuysadly 1GB doesn't go as far as it used to14:26
inetprosuch low number of hits, are they big files?14:27
superflyinetpro: around 40-70 megs14:28
superfly(each)14:28
inetprohmm... 14:28
inetprosurely that can't be causing any issues14:28
inetpromust be something else on the box14:29
Vince-0hey, do you want to get the RMS @ UKZN talk? I have an unlicensed version here: http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcloudatcost.dyndns.org%2Fstallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEhPZoYTs5CA-rKGhDjbBidoDc0wg14:32
Vince-0ow wait,14:32
Vince-0http://cloudatcost.dyndns.org/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv 14:32
Vince-0I'm waiting for UKZN to release the copyright14:32
magespawnlater all home time14:38
Vince-0me215:03
Kiloshi Private_User 15:27
Private_Userhi Kilos 15:27
Private_Userhi everybody else15:28
Private_User:)15:28
Kiloshehe15:28
charlgood evening folks17:39
charlMaaz_: coffee on17:40
* Maaz_ puts the kettle on17:40
Kiloshi charl 17:40
charlhi Kilos  :)17:40
KilosMaaz_ coffee please17:40
Maaz_Kilos: Alrighty17:40
charlhow's it going17:40
Kilosgood ty and there?17:40
charli'm good thanks17:40
nlsthzngood evening all :)17:42
Kiloshi nlsthzn 17:43
Kilos:-)17:43
Maaz_Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!17:44
KilosMaaz_ dankie man17:44
Maaz_Groot plesier my vriend17:44
nlsthzn:)17:44
charlMaaz_: thanks17:48
Maaz_charl: Sure17:48
charlhi nlsthzn 17:48
nlsthzno/ charl17:48
charlhow's it17:48
nlsthznso I survived a second karate class tonight after sprayning my toes and bruising my foot a little over a week ago :/17:49
charlbah :(17:49
nlsthznso it is all systems go for the tourney this coming Friday... :)17:49
nlsthznsore foot and all17:49
Kilosthat will teach you to keep your toes back and kick with ball of foot17:50
nlsthznlol17:50
nlsthznsomething like that17:50
charl:)17:51
Kilosthat is the ball hey? the piece the toes are stuck to17:51
nlsthznI have an idea what you mean17:51
nlsthznbut the specific kick I somehow messed up you keep toes pointed and hit the person with the top flat part of the foot... like a slap17:51
Kilosor forget maigerry and twist a bit and use side of foot17:51
nlsthznsomehow I got that wrong :p17:51
* Kilos forgets spelling17:52
nlsthznah so you know mawashugeri17:52
nlsthznspelling also wrong :p17:52
Kilosmawashigerri17:52
nlsthznI think that is what I messed up... only noticed the pain after the kumite17:52
Kilosthats a foot slap to the face17:52
nlsthznI was faining a kick with it to come in for a punch... must have hit his elbow :/17:53
Kilosone tricky way that gets past lots is kick a bit to the left and then bring same foot back in a reverse mawashi17:53
nlsthznlol, I hardly get a chance to join the class so I am a lowly yellow belt at the moment... 17:54
nlsthznso fancy isn't in my abilities at the moment17:54
Kilospractise on wife17:54
charllol17:54
nlsthznnah she uses the class as an excuse to get me back for what ever I did wrong during the week17:54
charlterrible Kilos 17:54
Kiloshaha make her hold a pillow man17:54
charloh that's better :)17:55
Kiloshaha gotcha17:55
nlsthzndon't want to give her mor reason to moer me in cladd...17:55
nlsthzn*class17:55
charllol17:55
Kiloslol17:55
charlphew17:55
nlsthznsorry for the french :p17:55
Kiloslekker when family does it together17:55
charl:)17:56
Kilosgetting fit and learning to breathe properly is the biggest bonus17:56
nlsthznyup... daughter going on well... she skipped from yellow to green bypassing orange the last grading 17:56
Kilosyou should find that you all get healthier17:56
nlsthznwife already blue... just me lagging17:56
Kiloswow17:56
nlsthznthat is the idea :)17:57
charlthey are going to moer you together nlsthzn if you are not careful 17:57
charl:)17:57
nlsthznwife was going to SA's when she was at varisty17:57
nlsthznI still run faster and know where to hide ;)17:57
Kiloslol17:57
charlhahahah !17:57
* nlsthzn goes for shower and sleepy... work in the morning. Have a good one all :)18:02
Kilossleep tight nlsthzn 18:02
charlhave a good evening nlsthzn 18:04
charli'm off too18:16
charlgood evening al18:16
charl*all18:16
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:31
Kilosoh cocooncrash can you shorten maaz's tail for us please18:31
Private_Userevening people22:18
Private_Useror should I say Good Morning :D22:18
Private_Userwell I guess everybody is asleep :p22:19
Private_Userhehe22:19

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