[05:12] <Kilos> cremora minora
[06:08] <Symmetria> morning
[06:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning
[06:15] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:20] <Symmetria> heh I asked a question in an assignment for a training course I was giving
[06:20] <Symmetria> and while everyone in the class seemed to do fine on the assignment
[06:20] <Symmetria> my one question seems to have tripped up 85% of the class
[06:20] <Symmetria> lol, only 4 people actually got the right answer 
[06:50] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[06:58] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:59] <Kilos> hgi magespawn 
[06:59] <Kilos> hi as well
[06:59] <magespawn> indeed
[06:59] <Kilos> fingers musta put on wieght
[06:59] <Kilos> weight
[07:08] <Kilos> Maaz_ change nick to Maaz
[07:09] <Maaz_> Kilos: Just do it yourself
[07:09] <Kilos> hi superfly have you got permissions with maaz?
[07:11] <superfly> Kilos: some
[07:12] <Kilos> adminj?
[07:12] <Kilos> admin too?
[07:12] <Kilos> whew typos today
[07:14] <superfly> Maaz_: change nick to Maaz
[07:14] <Maaz_> superfly: You're not the boss of me
[07:14] <Kilos> ai!
[07:14] <Kilos> cheeky bot
[07:14] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[07:23] <magespawn> lol let Maaz_ have his tail maybe he like it
[07:24] <magespawn> likes
[07:24] <Kilos> haha
[08:16] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn smile 
[08:18] <nlsthzn> alo uncle Kilos
[08:27] <smile> hi :)
[08:32] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:35] <Vince-0> Sup kbmonkey_ 
[08:35] <Vince-0> I mean Kilos 
[08:35] <Kilos> lol
[08:35] <Kilos> all good ty and there Vince-0 ?
[08:35] <Kilos> the monkey been inactive for too long now
[08:38] <Kilos> Maaz_ seen kbmonkey
[08:38] <Maaz_> Kilos: kbmonkey was last seen 23 days, 15 hours, 7 minutes and 10 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-01-24 19:30:56 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-02-13 04:19:07 SAST
[08:47] <Vince-0> work work
[08:47] <Vince-0> busy updating discussion notes for a next LUG hangout:
[08:47] <Kilos> is that work?
[08:48] <Vince-0> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLDFU0bpqVM64W1LXbR7apLiZM-Kwlf04_kM3vbixg0/edit?usp=sharing
[08:48] <Vince-0> oh no, this keeps me busy at work
[08:48] <Kilos> lug and work are apart arent they
[08:48] <Kilos> lol
[08:49] <Vince-0> not in my life, otherwise I'd fall asleep at my desk
[08:49] <Kilos> haha
[08:51] <Vince-0> I spend most of the day reading online,
[08:51] <Kilos> wow
[08:51] <Kilos> serious job you got
[08:51] <Vince-0> I could probably do a part time journalist type thing lol
[08:51] <Vince-0> ya it's serious, just unorganised and without vision
[08:51] <Kilos> doesnt anything ever break there
[08:52] <Vince-0> occasionally, but it's always a recurring issue with gets put out in 5 mins
[08:52] <Kilos> what do you do Vince-0 and for what company
[08:52] <Vince-0> primarily VoIP with Asterisk, Vicidial, FreePBX 
[08:53] <Vince-0> MySQL, MariaDB
[08:53] <Vince-0> but nothing new in a while
[08:54] <Vince-0> lol you must be "anonymous capybara" in Google Docs
[08:54] <Kilos> ah similar to magespawn but not on a game ranch
[08:54] <Vince-0> there's lots of call centers in Durban
[08:55] <magespawn> hi Vince-0 
[08:55] <Vince-0> hi!
[08:55] <Vince-0> *brb
[09:02] <Vince-0> noobs! surrounded by noobs
[09:02] <Kilos> lol
[09:03] <Vince-0> these call center people know nothing about the systems they use
[09:04] <Kilos> they just gotta answer fones anyway
[09:04] <Kilos> do they get paid a decent wage for that
[09:04] <Vince-0> nope, not the agents - they do what ever they want
[09:05] <Vince-0> its the "IT" guys in the middle
[09:05] <Kilos> are those that answer the fones called agents?
[09:13] <Vince-0> yep
[09:14] <Vince-0> they usually start at R3000 basic + comm
[09:14] <Kilos> ouch
[09:14] <Kilos> today thats nothing
[09:14] <Vince-0> let's just say "skilled" agents are sought after but they're a dime a dozen
[09:14] <magespawn> not too bad as long as you can sell
[09:14] <Kilos> sell what?
[09:15] <Kilos> like waitresses that rely on tips
[09:17] <Vince-0> yep, sell anything under the Sun
[09:17] <Kilos> wow
[09:17] <Vince-0> In Durban they call the UK a massive amount, put on a fake Brit accent - its pretty annoying 
[09:18] <Kilos> lol
[09:18] <Vince-0> ZA campaigns are usually The Unlimited World - loyalty programs, insurance etc
[09:18] <Vince-0> then there's all the crap the mobile networks don't want - CellC, Virgin, MTN, Voda - 
[09:18] <Kilos> ok
[09:19] <Kilos> i hate insurance sales peeps they dont understand what no thank you means
[09:20] <Vince-0> yep, standard response is: "I'm not interested, take me off your list immediately"
[09:21] <Kilos> i think their ears are blocked to anything but yes plaease and tell me more
[09:21] <Kilos> please
[09:24] <Vince-0> they're trained to treat every objection as a "I want more info"
[09:24] <Kilos> hahaha
[09:28] <magespawn> back again
[09:28] <Kilos> wb magespawn what you broke
[09:28] <magespawn> nah just needed to plug lan cable into another router
[09:29] <Kilos> ah
[09:36] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:44] <Vince-0> !
[09:45] <Kilos> well hello there inetpro 
[10:06] <magespawn> howdy inetpro
[10:32] <Vince_0> aarg
[10:46] <magespawn> i have just found a cisco 837 router sitting in a box
[10:50] <magespawn> not getting much joy in connecting to it yet though, maybe that is why it was in the box
[10:50] <Kilos> lol
[10:59] <magespawn>  Kilos it is one of these http://is.gd/PaqMxR
[11:00] <Kilos> so whats blown on it?
[11:06] <magespawn> not sure, it is not assigning an ip address automatically, it's default is supposed to be 10.10.10.1
[11:13] <Symmetria> magespawn
[11:13] <Symmetria> you need to connect to it via console
[11:13] <Symmetria> and fix its config that way :)
[11:15] <magespawn> cool beans Symmetria, i do not have a console cable with me, that i left up in hluhluwe
[11:25] <nuvolari> o/
[11:25] <Kilos> o/
[11:53] <superfly> Symmetria: you don't know of an open source "downloads server" ? I'm looking for something that can cache large files so that it doesn't hit my disk all the time
[11:58] <Squirm> superfly: maybe something like Squid cache? Not sure how well it'd work server side
[11:59] <superfly> Squirm: good idea. I think Symmetria used it, or something like it, in that way before
[12:00] <Squirm> we use it our side, but we cache in RAM and disk. makes our life much better
[12:00] <superfly> I have a VPS and I'm hosting the files for my open source project after SF.net went all wonky about 2 weeks ago. But I now get disk io warnings all the time :-/
[12:01] <Squirm> of 15Gb we used through our squid proxy on Friday. 13% was from cache
[12:01] <superfly> so I'm looking for something that can cache the files in RAM
[12:01] <Squirm> Squid does that
[12:03] <Squirm> run it as a transparent caching proxy
[12:03] <Squirm> so what you'd have to do, is set up apache/whatever you would use to not listen on port 80 but have squid listening on port 80 and pushing everything through to another local port
[12:03] <superfly> I'm using nginx at the moment
[12:04] <superfly> actually, in some cases I'm using nginx as a reverse proxy to Apache ;-)
[12:16] <Vince-0> nuvolari, !
[12:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: varnish perhaps?
[12:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> or the ghetto version, create a ramdisk ;-)
[12:42] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: that may work, thanks
[12:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> np
[12:45] <inetpro> you could even use apache as a proxy
[12:45] <inetpro> with mod_proxy 
[12:45]  * inetpro hasn't tried that though
[12:45] <inetpro> at least not on a big scale
[14:16] <Squirm> a ramdisk is actually quite a useful idea
[14:16] <Squirm> superfly: what you can also do, depending how much data you have, is use a SSD as a caching device
[14:17] <Squirm> so you have your data on your main drives, and use say a 60Gb SSD as a cache
[14:17] <superfly> Squirm: this is a VPS
[14:18] <Squirm> then surely they would need to handle that sort of service?
[14:18] <Squirm> if your drive dies it's their problem?
[14:19] <superfly> well, it's not that the drive is dying, it's just that the disk io is above the alert threshold
[14:20] <Squirm> ah, ok
[14:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> you might just have low RAM
[14:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> surely under normal circumstances it'd be in the normal cache
[14:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> unless you have low ram and the cache is being emptied constantly
[14:21] <superfly> hrm, that may be the deal
[14:22] <superfly> I don't have a lot of RAM
[14:22] <inetpro> superfly: how many hits are we talking about?
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> what does 'free -m' have to say?
[14:25] <superfly> I have a gig of RAM and 106M free... like i said, not much
[14:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm guessing "cached" is also pretty low
[14:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> in 'free -m' output
[14:25] <superfly> inetpro: probably 20-30 per day
[14:26] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: yes, 170
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah that's not leaving much room for useful caching :-/
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> sadly 1GB doesn't go as far as it used to
[14:27] <inetpro> such low number of hits, are they big files?
[14:28] <superfly> inetpro: around 40-70 megs
[14:28] <superfly> (each)
[14:28] <inetpro> hmm... 
[14:28] <inetpro> surely that can't be causing any issues
[14:29] <inetpro> must be something else on the box
[14:32] <Vince-0> hey, do you want to get the RMS @ UKZN talk? I have an unlicensed version here: http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcloudatcost.dyndns.org%2Fstallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEhPZoYTs5CA-rKGhDjbBidoDc0wg
[14:32] <Vince-0> ow wait,
[14:32] <Vince-0> http://cloudatcost.dyndns.org/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv 
[14:32] <Vince-0> I'm waiting for UKZN to release the copyright
[14:38] <magespawn> later all home time
[15:03] <Vince-0> me2
[15:27] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[15:27] <Private_User> hi Kilos 
[15:28] <Private_User> hi everybody else
[15:28] <Private_User> :)
[15:28] <Kilos> hehe
[17:39] <charl> good evening folks
[17:40] <charl> Maaz_: coffee on
[17:40]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[17:40] <Kilos> hi charl 
[17:40] <charl> hi Kilos  :)
[17:40] <Kilos> Maaz_ coffee please
[17:40] <Maaz_> Kilos: Alrighty
[17:40] <charl> how's it going
[17:40] <Kilos> good ty and there?
[17:40] <charl> i'm good thanks
[17:42] <nlsthzn> good evening all :)
[17:43] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:43] <Kilos> :-)
[17:44] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[17:44] <Kilos> Maaz_ dankie man
[17:44] <Maaz_> Groot plesier my vriend
[17:44] <nlsthzn> :)
[17:48] <charl> Maaz_: thanks
[17:48] <Maaz_> charl: Sure
[17:48] <charl> hi nlsthzn 
[17:48] <nlsthzn> o/ charl
[17:48] <charl> how's it
[17:49] <nlsthzn> so I survived a second karate class tonight after sprayning my toes and bruising my foot a little over a week ago :/
[17:49] <charl> bah :(
[17:49] <nlsthzn> so it is all systems go for the tourney this coming Friday... :)
[17:49] <nlsthzn> sore foot and all
[17:50] <Kilos> that will teach you to keep your toes back and kick with ball of foot
[17:50] <nlsthzn> lol
[17:50] <nlsthzn> something like that
[17:51] <charl> :)
[17:51] <Kilos> that is the ball hey? the piece the toes are stuck to
[17:51] <nlsthzn> I have an idea what you mean
[17:51] <nlsthzn> but the specific kick I somehow messed up you keep toes pointed and hit the person with the top flat part of the foot... like a slap
[17:51] <Kilos> or forget maigerry and twist a bit and use side of foot
[17:51] <nlsthzn> somehow I got that wrong :p
[17:52]  * Kilos forgets spelling
[17:52] <nlsthzn> ah so you know mawashugeri
[17:52] <nlsthzn> spelling also wrong :p
[17:52] <Kilos> mawashigerri
[17:52] <nlsthzn> I think that is what I messed up... only noticed the pain after the kumite
[17:52] <Kilos> thats a foot slap to the face
[17:53] <nlsthzn> I was faining a kick with it to come in for a punch... must have hit his elbow :/
[17:53] <Kilos> one tricky way that gets past lots is kick a bit to the left and then bring same foot back in a reverse mawashi
[17:54] <nlsthzn> lol, I hardly get a chance to join the class so I am a lowly yellow belt at the moment... 
[17:54] <nlsthzn> so fancy isn't in my abilities at the moment
[17:54] <Kilos> practise on wife
[17:54] <charl> lol
[17:54] <nlsthzn> nah she uses the class as an excuse to get me back for what ever I did wrong during the week
[17:54] <charl> terrible Kilos 
[17:54] <Kilos> haha make her hold a pillow man
[17:55] <charl> oh that's better :)
[17:55] <Kilos> haha gotcha
[17:55] <nlsthzn> don't want to give her mor reason to moer me in cladd...
[17:55] <nlsthzn> *class
[17:55] <charl> lol
[17:55] <Kilos> lol
[17:55] <charl> phew
[17:55] <nlsthzn> sorry for the french :p
[17:55] <Kilos> lekker when family does it together
[17:56] <charl> :)
[17:56] <Kilos> getting fit and learning to breathe properly is the biggest bonus
[17:56] <nlsthzn> yup... daughter going on well... she skipped from yellow to green bypassing orange the last grading 
[17:56] <Kilos> you should find that you all get healthier
[17:56] <nlsthzn> wife already blue... just me lagging
[17:56] <Kilos> wow
[17:57] <nlsthzn> that is the idea :)
[17:57] <charl> they are going to moer you together nlsthzn if you are not careful 
[17:57] <charl> :)
[17:57] <nlsthzn> wife was going to SA's when she was at varisty
[17:57] <nlsthzn> I still run faster and know where to hide ;)
[17:57] <Kilos> lol
[17:57] <charl> hahahah !
[18:02]  * nlsthzn goes for shower and sleepy... work in the morning.  Have a good one all :)
[18:02] <Kilos> sleep tight nlsthzn 
[18:04] <charl> have a good evening nlsthzn 
[18:16] <charl> i'm off too
[18:16] <charl> good evening al
[18:16] <charl> *all
[18:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:31] <Kilos> oh cocooncrash can you shorten maaz's tail for us please
[22:18] <Private_User> evening people
[22:18] <Private_User> or should I say Good Morning :D
[22:19] <Private_User> well I guess everybody is asleep :p
[22:19] <Private_User> hehe