[00:58] <Daekdroom> Does anyone here use Clementine? Whenever I try to search a song in my library, nothing happens and CPU usage spikes.
[09:04] <vedranm> hey guys, does 14.04 pre-release enable ibus by default?
[09:25] <AussieDownUnder> First Xubuntu 14.04 bug
[09:27] <AussieDownUnder> While Steam for linux was installing no matter what I did to change windows or applications I'd continuously be thrown back to the software centre page for steam. Before I moved applications to another workspace I could switch between apps no worries, after I opted to move installers to another workspace I'd be getting thrown back to mostly the software centre screen. I ended up waiting out the steam download/installer
[09:27] <AussieDownUnder>  & it stopeed after that. So I assume it's to do with the steam install while it's installing
[09:57] <AussieDownUnder> Can't seem to find my steam game folder in 14.04, is it hidden?
[10:57] <soee> why there is Firefox 25 not 27 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/firefox ?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:43] <riverloop> Hi, I'm currently running 12.04, I'd like to replace it with Trusty if it is currently in a usable shape.
[14:43] <riverloop> Can somebody tell how usable is Trusty currently?
[14:45] <philinux> riverloop;~ hi they get tetchy in #ubuntu with +1 questions
[14:46] <riverloop> That's alright. I'm new to IRC.
[14:46] <philinux> I'm running it now on this acer 1410 laptop
[14:46] <philinux> I would not run it on my main desktop though
[14:47] <riverloop> I have Acer 4736z, it's running 12.04 well, but there is a notable delay for the laptop to boot.
[14:47] <philinux> Have you got a spare partition to dual boot 14.04
[14:47] <riverloop> I have, in fact.
[14:48] <riverloop> I have a 12.10 partition, which I don't use anymore.
[14:48] <philinux> just be aware that 14.04 is using a beta version of grub
[14:48] <popey> I'm using 14.04 on my laptop and desktop
[14:48] <popey> it's been pretty robust so far
[14:48] <riverloop> popey: do you update it everyday?
[14:49] <popey> ya
[14:49] <philinux> riverloop;~ you can check out some of the issues here > http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427
[14:49] <philinux> riverloop;~ yep same here update every day
[14:49] <riverloop> Alright. Thanks. The links would be helpful for me.
[14:50] <popey> i sometimes update multiple times a day if there's interesting stuff
[14:50] <riverloop> I don't have a reliable internet connection, sadly.
[14:50] <riverloop> I can't update it too often.
[14:50] <philinux> riverloop;~ dont use software updater
[14:51] <riverloop> how do you update it then?
[14:51] <philinux> riverloop;~ terminal or synaptic
[14:51] <riverloop> Okay.
[14:51] <riverloop> I've always disliked software updater.
[14:51] <philinux> riverloop;~ sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:52] <riverloop> philinux: Thanks!
[14:52] <philinux> riverloop;~ watch the dist-upgrade and check if it wants to remove anything
[14:52] <philinux> riverloop;~ or start with just upgrade and see what it wants to do
[14:52] <riverloop> Okay. I think it would be wise to take a backup before everything.
[14:53] <philinux> riverloop;~ goes without question
[14:53] <philinux> riverloop;~ read the stickies in the u+1 forum re testing
[14:53] <riverloop> Alright. Thanks!
[14:57] <BluesKaj> feature freeze on thurs, so upgrade now !  :)
[15:05] <Nothing_Much> Feature freeze?
[15:05] <Nothing_Much> BluesKaj: What do you mean?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> Nothing_Much, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[15:11] <Nothing_Much> Ah okay
[15:40] <ice9> I installed unity 8 on 13.10 from apt-get, how do I run it?
[15:56] <Nothing_Much> ice9: Did you check to see whether it's running or not? It should be enabled by default
[15:56] <ice9> Nothing_Much: I did: unity --version and it's 7
[15:56] <Nothing_Much> Are you using the FOSS drivers?
[15:56] <Nothing_Much> Or the proprietary ones?
[15:59] <ice9> Nothing_Much: FOSS
[15:59] <Nothing_Much> ice9: Post the output of this
[15:59] <Nothing_Much> ps afx | grep unity-system-compositor
[16:00] <ice9> nothing
[16:00] <ice9> 11379 pts/5    S+     0:00          |       \_ grep unity-system-compositor
[16:00] <Nothing_Much> Hmm..
[16:01] <ice9> I think its not started
[16:02] <ice9> when I rutn unity8 it starts the phone shell demo
[16:02] <Nothing_Much> Unity 8 isn't on the desktop yet
[16:02] <ice9> got it
[16:02] <Nothing_Much> You can run Mir with Unity 7 at the moment for an extra 5 years  on 14.04
[16:03] <Nothing_Much> Hopefully Mir gets released by 14.10
[16:03] <ice9> why would I use mir instead of X?
[16:04] <Nothing_Much> Uh.. you asked?
[16:04] <Nothing_Much> Oh wait
[16:04] <Nothing_Much> Sorry
[16:05] <Nothing_Much> Mir is going to replace Xorg after 14.04, but it should be mature enough for everyday use by 14.10
[16:05] <Nothing_Much> And that's when Unity 8 will be available
[16:05] <Nothing_Much> For the desktop
[16:06] <ice9> Nothing_Much: but Mir now is not for product use yet?
[16:06] <Nothing_Much> Not necessarily, it's mostly for users that want to test it out and developers that wanna help contribute
[16:06] <Nothing_Much> In fact I think I might want to install Mir now..
[16:07] <ice9> Nothing_Much: is there any advantages for end users to run Mir instead of X?
[16:08] <Nothing_Much> As far as I know, there's a slight increase in FPS for *some* games on Intel HD graphics.
[16:09] <Nothing_Much> It's that and less bloat from X
[16:09] <ice9> since it's a wrapper between applications and X, things should get slower not faster
[16:10] <Nothing_Much> It's not a wrapper, it's something else that I'm not sure what it's named.
[16:10] <philinux> I tried mir on this acer 1410 and saw no diff which is good I suppose
[16:10] <Nothing_Much> Because it's an X replacement
[16:11] <Nothing_Much> brb
[17:41] <genii> !schedule
[17:44] <genii> ubottu: schedule is <reply> A schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[17:44] <genii> ubottu: !schedule is <reply> A schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[17:45] <genii> ubottu: no !schedule is <reply> A schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[17:45] <genii> ubottu: no schedule is <reply> A schedule of Trusty Tahr (14.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[17:45] <genii> !schedule
[17:45]  * genii smacks the bot
[17:45] <genii> Meh, work
[17:46] <Pici> odd
[17:47] <genii> !schedule
[17:47] <genii> Pici: Had to specify the channel
[17:47] <Pici> genii: oh, so you deleted and re-added it in private?
[17:48] <genii> Pici: Yes, so as not to spam and also dissect a bit more it's messages
[17:48] <Pici> genii: good good
[19:03] <Nothing_Much> Is it safe to use http://ubuntu-manual.org/about as a curriculum?
[20:33] <miseria> "cuantos millones de humanos perderian su trabajo si un miserable salario minimo fuera mandatorio en el planeta?" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[20:38] <pepee> hi
[20:39] <pepee> is this correct?  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwNzU    VDPAU will not be enabled for the radeon driver in trusty?
[20:55] <bekks> Ok, so who broke the latest kernel yesterday? :P Took me an hour to get my laptop up and runnin again :)
[22:53] <utusan> GS upgrade looking better and better. plus got the debian logo wallpaper. nice.
[23:09] <AussieDownUnder> Is it possible to change the xubuntu screen that you log back in from after the pc has locked itself? I'd like to see the same screen you use for login if that's possible.
[23:32] <AussieDownUnder> How do I get more options for default programs? Can't set bugger all
[23:45] <bekks> AussieDownUnder: What are you actually trying to do?