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Pouetyaaaay09:11
Pouetanybody home ?09:11
Pouetwanted to have some hint about the update of Ubuntu OS for smartphones09:20
SolidSnake1984hello09:20
letouristehello09:20
letouristei'm apologize for my poor english but i'm french :)09:21
SolidSnake1984i have a samsung s3 , could i install to my phone ubuntu?09:21
letouristei've got a galaxy note 3 with 4 core  can i install phone ubuntu ?09:21
letouristecan you leak a link for download the ISO and process :)09:22
SolidSnake1984who? me?09:23
letouristei'm alone ?09:25
SolidSnake1984nope09:26
letouristexd09:26
letouristehave the same question :)09:26
SolidSnake1984almost the same, yup, i like linux, but am afraid when coud i install to my phone without some crashes09:27
SolidSnake1984not wen, "ho"09:28
SolidSnake1984"how"09:28
SolidSnake1984sorry for my bad english at the moment i learning german, and i forget my english a little09:28
SolidSnake1984nobody here to answer our questionos :(09:29
waseemhello09:30
SolidSnake1984hi09:30
SolidSnake1984from?09:31
Pouetle touriste, still here ?09:54
lorisblolzHi10:22
TeamTortillahello13:45
mhall119hi guys, this channel is only monitored during an ubuntuonair.com broadcast, if you need questions answered now you should join #ubuntu-touch (for phone stuff) or #ubuntu (general support)14:00
beat0venQUESTION, tomorow, an update for nexus 5 ?14:52
kmdude344This is awesome, can't wait till tomorrow!15:57
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Guest95745QUESTION: Does Ubuntu Mobile OS supports Video calls without any third party software like skype ??17:57
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jonothe audience forms.... :-)18:54
snwh *dramatic music*18:56
mrbrownstoneyes, jonno we see the bacon19:00
nhainesHeya, Jono.  You're loud and clear.  :)19:00
windows_gets_u_cyes, we can!19:00
windows_gets_u_c..see u19:00
snwhoh there's a thing happenin19:00
snwhi still think this should be renamed to "Bacon Question Time"19:02
MS_gers_u_cancerQUESTION: Anyone's working on APN configuration right now? Besides mail app and jabber app it's the most important code I'm waiting for.19:03
JITENDRAWhich Device is better nexus 4 or Nexus 7(2012) for installing Ubuntu Touch19:03
giates19:03
nhainesQUESTION: Fantastic NES shirt!  I really think that Ubuntu Business Remix would be a compelling thing to sell to local businesses, but it seems to have totally disappeared.  Any plans to bring it back with Ubuntu 14.04?19:04
InetKenQUESTION: What can we expect from Ubuntu and you at SCALE this weekend?19:04
nhainesInetKen: awesomeness from jono, as always.  We'll have a couple Nexus 4s and I'll have my Nexus 5 at the Ubuntu booth at SCALE.19:05
MauritzQUESTION: Will ubuntu on the phone come to the Nexus 5?19:05
JITENDRANexus4 or Nexus 7 which is better?19:05
InetKennhaines: Will lookout for that.19:05
bonboncatsJITENDRA: nexus 4.19:05
Nevhi can you tell us is canonical going to make gaming on ubuntu easier?19:06
nxvlQUESTION: Are you gonna shave that horrible beard for tomorrow session? :P19:06
RogerCQUESTION Guitar tonight? New user! Roger Carder Linton,Cambridge..19:06
evan_howdy19:07
rfrappQuestion: What plans do you have for accessibility in Ubuntu? Both mobile and desktop?19:07
AironOnPCQUESTION: Is that right information, that Ubuntu for phone support now 30 different phone models?19:07
evan_Will 14 work with all ATI onboard display drivers19:08
Dermot_DevQUESTION: I was impressed that the Ubuntu-Touch team  was forward-thinking enough to primarily concentrate on the Nex7~2013 for this year. However, have you heard , - what are main stumbling-blocks in doing  this going forward ? Has popey Updated you recently on this ?19:09
ChristianLetoHello, Good job with Ubunru, greetings from Romania!!!!19:09
ChristianLetoUbuntu*19:09
Dermot_DevRogerC, he probably will at the end .19:10
GodoPPLQUESTION: How functional is Ubuntu Touch on the Galaxy Nexus currently?19:10
krwlngQuestion: Do you think publish the touch version of ubuntu for other phones and tablets?19:10
momits_QUESTION: if i want to package a newly-written gtk+-app for ubuntu, should i use the click-package system? would i need to ship all dependencies with the app? or stick with apt? which one is preferred?19:11
JITENDRAQuestion : Nexus 4 or Nexus 7 (2012) which device is better for Ubuntu Touch?19:11
nxvljono: everytime i found out you are on a Q&A i made that question :D19:11
nhainesMauritz: Ubuntu Engineering team has Nexus 5 support planned for in trusty+1 some time in June.  (jono: this is on their landing spreadsheet that isn't quite up to date.)  :)19:12
Dermot_DevJITENDRA, Please *Do-not* just repeat questions, thank-you kindly .19:12
adam_when will ubuntu phone going 2 be out?19:12
b3rn475GUITAR YES19:13
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mrdatahsGuitar YES19:14
MauritzQUESTION: Any plans of photoshop on Ubuntu? (a easy way)19:14
nhainesQUESTION: once Ubuntu has device convergence, do you think you'd use a phone, a tablet, or a laptop as your main mobile device?19:14
ukbeastWhat's the topic?19:14
bonboncatsQUESTION: what are your personal opinions on ubuntu moving to systemd?19:14
iBobXHi!19:15
tuxkalle QUESTION Hello finnely got ubuntu phone os on my nexus 4 :-) Are you looking at Winter Olympics ?19:15
ukbeastYou have my tablet. (Grouper?)19:15
pablo__will ubuntu works on lg optimus g?19:15
nhainesGodoPPL: Galaxy Nexus still works but is a bit choppy.  You can dual-boot it and remove Ubuntu without removing Android and try it out.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation19:15
iBobXQuestion, any plans to support the Sony Z1? and also, is that that option of connecting to the external monitor and get a full desktop available?19:15
JITENDRAWill Ubuntu Touch Support Indian Mobile Device Micromax?19:16
rfrappQuestion: Are there any detailed tutorials on developing for Ubuntu with QML? Where can I find more than what's on the developer website?19:16
mrdatahs+1 Mauritz - Get a high-performance port of Adobe Creative Suite on Ubuntu and I'd switch 100% and never look back. Looking at a new mobile workstation, tho - how about Ubuntu as a high-powered host with a win 8 guest with lots of RAM/compute allocated - how's the performance on Photoshop?19:16
who_meQUESTION: Are click-packages suitable for shipping games, such as those found in humble bundles, for example...19:17
iBobXI liked the option of having both mobile and desktop on the same device, is that available on the latest release?19:17
MauritzIf I would be able to have Photoshop on Ubuntu I would never have to use Windows again :D19:17
kubusiowykubusWhy ubuntu has some many platform but on PC ubuntu sometimes isnt optymalized for hardware ? (updates without breaking system etc.)19:18
k1l_QUESTION: what do you think of the switch to systemd in the future of ubuntu and what do you think about the CLA of canonical since that was one big negative in the debian discussion. mybe upstart would have won without that CLA.19:18
ukbeastHave you tried wine?19:18
who_meukbeast, wine usually runs older versions of Photoshop, but there are quirks19:18
iBobX@ukbeast wine is for x86 arch19:18
Dermot_DevI keep losing connection momentarily , anyone else ?19:19
ukbeast64bit and 32bit19:19
adam_Question: when will ubuntu phone be out or is it out?19:19
MauritzDermot_Dev I am having the same issue19:19
ukbeastMy Pc is 64bit but 32bit wine prefix works better19:19
Kai__@Dermot_Dev me too19:19
bonboncatsthank you for answering!19:20
Dermot_Devyeah , I know guys .. I guess more ppl will watch the recording .. but he keeps coming back for more ... :)19:20
Radu23What about ubuntu tv?19:21
rfrappQuestion: I run Ubuntu 13.04 on a virtual machine using VirtualBox, and I want to update to 13.10. Can I just click upgrade in the software updated, or is there something else I need to do to upgrade?19:21
nick___QUESTION: Hi Jono, We need devices, phones and tablets with ubuntu :) any update?19:21
Nevare you gonna make gaming on ubuntu easier? its realy complicated when it doesnt work even with wine19:21
b3rn475QUESTION: I've not fully understood what is going on between Canonical and Ubuntu derivates like Mint. What are this licence situation all about? What do you think about it?19:21
RogerCGuitar YES19:22
iBobXAh I see, thanks (sorry for the that that) :)19:22
Radu23What about ubuntu tv?19:22
ukbeastQUESTION: How close is MIR?19:22
MauritzQUESTION: When will Ubuntu rule the world? :D19:22
ukbeastIt has fixed bug 119:23
Dermot_DevQUESTION: Has there been any more discussion on the event of 'physical UDS' sometime in future  ? , or has the likes of *discourse* somewhat   over-taken  this function ( kind of ) .19:23
who_meMauritz, hopefully never... I enjoy the diversity :P19:23
ukbeasthttp://www.androidcentral.com/ubuntu-bug-number-1-closed-microsoft-no-longer-holds-majority-market-share19:23
Mauritzwho_me Yeah it is nice, but still I am stuck using Win7 because of PS...19:23
Radu23What about ubuntu tv?19:24
Dermot_DevRadu23, Ask again with 'QUESTION' and the beginning - he will answer ...19:24
ukbeastYou can Use windows 7 on Ubuntu via Virtual machine19:24
b3rn475QUESTION: Will 14.04 ship MIR and XMir? there are a lot of articles online saing yes and a lot saing no.19:24
b3rn475@ukbeast yes you can.19:25
Mauritzukbeast yes, but I would like to use as much of my ram as I can since I have 26gb...19:25
TijderCan steam run on it?19:25
nhainesrfrapp: no tech support in channel.  :)  But take a snapshot of your machine and then start it up and click upgrade.  It should work fine, but if it doesn't then you can revert to your snapshot.19:25
Radu23How about ubuntu tv?19:25
who_meb3rn475, they intend to ship a "demo" version of Unity 8 and Mir19:25
ukbeastI can't wait for mir19:26
nhainesUnity 8 will be the tablet-mode UI.  Will be stellar for developing.19:26
Radu23What about ubuntu tv19:26
iBobXDo you know how's the evolution of MIR going related to compatibility with X11 Applications and so?19:26
ukbeastQUESTION:  What about ubuntu tv?19:27
JITENDRAQUESTION Ubuntu Touch on Indian Mobile Device Micromax............ When ?19:27
k1l_Radu23: write "QUESTION:" in front and then wait until jono is at your question19:27
ukbeastAnyone tried Maxthon yet?19:28
mhall119JITENDRA: that would be a great pairing, you should tell Micromax that you want them to ship an Ubuntu phone19:28
NevQUESTION: are you gonna make gaming on ubuntu easier? its realy complicated when it doesnt work even with wine19:28
MartisQUESTION: how to install ubuntu touch on android phone?19:28
ukbeastI gave up waiting on Opera lol19:28
nhainesmhall119: oh hi, Michael.  Internet high five!19:28
Mauritzukbeast same, firefox was just easier.19:29
mhall119hi nhaines :( ^519:29
mhall119should have been :), fat fingers19:29
nhainesMartis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install19:29
Dermot_Devk1l_,  I think its just a bot .19:29
Apisanyone else not able to get the video to load?19:29
nhainesmhall119: I thought you were just jealous I'm going to SCALE.  ;)19:29
b3rn475Are there any problems with the streaming?19:29
ukbeastmmm kubuntu19:29
k1l_stream is flaky for me :/19:29
nhainesApis: it's working fine for me although there are a couple dropouts in the last couple of minutes.19:29
mhall119nhaines: make no mistake, I am extremely jealous about that19:29
ukbeastsexy but a bit glitchy19:30
nhainesmhall119: you're always welcome there.  Feel free to visit SCALE13X in 2015!  :)19:30
Apisnhaines; I tried reloading multiple times, but nothign still, I'll wait a couple of minutes19:30
Dermot_DevI just think the stream-system is slightly over-loaded  .19:30
mhall119nhaines: I know, but logistics once again get in the way19:30
nhainesApis: if worst comes to worst, you can view the recording later.  :(19:31
ApisDermot_Dev; thats a good sign in a way, means people care19:31
who_meQUESTION: Are those licensees able to pass on that license? J. Ridell told people that they could use all Kubuntu packages. But not all of the Kubuntu packages are from the Kubuntu project.19:31
Dermot_DevApis, troo .19:31
Martiswhich system i will choose to install on my desktop pc? with windows program loading19:31
mhall119who_me: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same project, just different default package sets19:31
Martisfor now i must use windows for some programs19:31
ukbeastSame as lubuntu, ubuntu gnome etc19:32
Dermot_Devperhaps it would be a god idea for everyone to change to 240p ? - just sayin`19:32
nhainesMartis: boot into a Ubuntu Desktop CD, install on your phone, and then you can follow the instructions but keep your computer on Windows.19:32
nhainesDermot_Dev: I'm not sure Google is short on bandwidth.  :)19:32
who_memhall119, that is the exact reason I was asking. Can kubuntu pass on the license to anybody else like J. Ridell did?19:33
mhall119who_me: I doubt it19:33
ukbeastor Microsoft DDosing this vid >.>19:33
Dermot_Devnhaines,  must be his cleaner on facebook .. :)19:33
ukbeast:P19:33
who_memhall119, so did I :/19:33
nhainesQUESTION: Are we going to hear more about the Ubuntu Pioneers project tomorrow, or can you give us a hint on when we'll learn more?19:33
ukbeastofftopic19:34
ukbeastCompiz seems dead19:34
Martisnhaines i tired of windows after a half of year i must reinstall it and activate using hacks thats suck a bit19:34
ukbeastor dying19:34
mhall119nhaines: lack of pioneers is my fault, it's on my todo list but I've been stuck working on developer.u.c and API website improvements19:34
who_meukbeast, it's in maintenance mode... Unity 8 and Mir are the new "hotness" :)19:34
nhainesnhaines: aha!  Now I know who to pump for more info. ;)  dev.u.c looks really good, btw.  It needed a lot of improvements and... they're dropping in nicely!  :)19:35
* snwh would like a physical UDS (so he can go)19:35
ukbeast@who_me Sick!19:35
nhainesQUESTION: I think I need some tea and I'm going to make Earl Grey.  What's your favorite tea?19:35
ukbeastlol19:36
ukbeastI prefer black coffee myself19:36
mhall119nhaines: talking to yourself?19:36
nhainesmhall119: that doesn't mean one's crazy.  But if you start to *answer*...19:36
mhall119:)19:37
NevQUESTION: is ubuntu touch coming with extra NSA package? :)19:38
b3rn475QUESTION: In the video presentation of Ubuntu Touch you did few days ago there was a Nexus 10. Are you using it? Do you think will be usable in the near future?19:39
MartisQUESTION: when come on download ubuntu 14.04 full version?19:39
CrusaderADQUESTION: Any progress on a dedicated email app on touch?19:39
Dermot_DevQUESTION: cAN  YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR FAV. GAMES AT THE MOMENT ?19:40
ukbeastNSA tech is in linux already (SELinux)19:40
Dermot_Devsorry for caps19:40
Sajihi ya man19:40
iBobXhows the MIR compatibility evolving regarding19:40
ukbeastI'm wired myself o.o19:40
NevQUESTION: are you gonna make ubuntu touch compatible with any phone?19:40
iBobXX11 apps?19:40
nhainesQUESTION: What is Ubuntu's next support device type and why is it a smartphone?19:40
nhainesQUESTION: Typo!  Restated: What is Ubuntu's next support device type and why is it a smartwatch?19:41
who_meMartis, there are daily images of 14.04 at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/19:41
Dermot_Devapril19:41
MauritzQUESTION: Have you heard about the Jolla Phone?19:41
Sajihow to install ubuntu on my sony xperia j series????19:41
mrbrownstoneQUESTION:  Where can I find the interview you did with the ubuntu design team lead?19:41
nhainesMartis: April 17th.19:41
Martisdamn to long to wait19:41
ukbeastI did a upgrade trick (13.10) -> 14.04 alpha 219:41
Martisi hate beta versions19:42
iBobXHow's MIR display server evolving regarding compatibility with X11 applications?19:42
ukbeastI havely rarely got bugs19:42
k1l_QUESTION: how old are you, that you need a thick book to play a computer game? ;p19:42
ukbeastSerena, on steam19:42
Martisjust download games from torrents for free :D19:42
MaharshiQUESTION When Ubuntu Touch Mobile Handset is coming?19:43
DebaruQUESTION : Hi, Jono. When can you see a preview of Ubuntu Store (For Ubuntu Touch) ? And yes, you looks tired, are you sick ?19:43
AironOnPcQUeSTION: what is your streaming channel?19:43
who_mek1l_, there was a time when games came with manuals. sometimes those were thick :)19:43
ukbeastPMSL19:43
snwhUtoast, running 14.04 Crusty19:44
Dermot_DevQUESTION: Can you nudge the Ubuntu podcast and it's crew for their get-togethers or recent lack of podcasts .. I have cake that needs eatin'19:44
TheKingQUESTION: Any updates on Ubuntu for belt buckles?19:44
ukbeastugh lazy19:44
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ukbeastXD19:44
omar__hallo19:44
sockeyeWhen will we see the Ubuntu replacement for Nautilus?19:44
jonohttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/captfishead19:44
jonoAironOnPc, ^19:45
iBobXWe all are :)19:45
who_meQUESTION: Will Mir's streaming capabilities be suitable for both streaming content over at twitch.tv  and for desktop recording (for tutorials)?19:45
AironOnPcty19:45
BlinQUESTION: Would you (Canonical) to work jointly with the likeness Adobe to help them write their product under Linux (if they are not capable of)? You understand that it will attract new users to Ubuntu.19:46
MaharshiQuestion  ............. I am waiting for Ubuntu Handset.............. Could you Tell the detail Specification of Ubuntu Mobile Handset.............19:46
CoderniXWhen will we be able to have Optimus support out of the box in Ubuntu with the NVIDIA propriatary driver? Bumblebee just stopped working for me on 13.0419:47
MauritzQUESTION: Why have I always had issues upgrading from an older version to a newer version of ubuntu (i know I was not suppose to ask tech support question)19:47
Dermot_DevQUESTION: I have never asked this , but can I buy Apps for other users - on the Ubuntu Software Center , possibly ? i.e. that are registered.19:48
alteregoCoderniX: I've had that problem, there were some notes on getting it to work.19:48
BillynkidCan we expect further alignment with the Debian project similar to the recent upstart decision? Was this in any way influenced by the decision of Valve to use Debian as their base?19:48
AironOnPcQuestion: Does Ubuntu desctop support dual graphic card, and can it automaticcally change wich card Ubuntu use for playing and wich it use for 3d graphic work?19:49
alteregoQUESTION: Do you think that some of your articles for LXF are heavily biased towards Ubuntu/Canonical, and do you think that's a fair thing to do?19:49
iBobXI see you have an Apple Magic Mouse, you use Mac as your main OS don't you? As a musician? :)19:49
MauritzQUESTION-Follow-up: I am unable to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 it just crashes the updating software.19:49
Dermot_DevMauritz, I find " sudo do-release-upgrade " works marvels .19:49
snwhQUESTION: plug my offer of making Ubuntu Touch icons for community apps?19:49
CrusaderADQUESTION: thanks for the Ubuntu SDK help yesterday, Zoltan was a great help! Is the SDK the only / best way to try and develop an app?19:50
Dermot_DevQUESTION: Whats the best coffee in your area for instant coffee ?19:50
MaharshiQuestion Whatsapp is not Working on Ubuntu Touch............19:50
CheeseBurgQUESTION: I'm late, was watching Bad Voltage. What did I miss?19:50
nhainesMauritz: run 'update-manager' on the commandline and then save the error messages, and do some Google searches and look on askubuntu.com19:50
iBobXQUESTION: I see you have an Apple Magic Mouse, you use Mac as your main OS don't you? As a musician? :)19:50
Dermot_Devurrgh .. the mouse question ....19:51
Mauritznhaines thanks i'll try next time I boot to ubuntu19:51
ukbeastUbuntu has a "Driver Manager" under software sources19:51
ukbeastso you select which driver to use19:52
Guest59635Will there be a new revision of Practical PHP and MySQL? :P19:52
Guest59635QUESTION: Will there be a new revision of Practical PHP and MySQL? :P19:52
snwhjono, that's your app? I can do that19:53
sebsebsebI nearly forgot about this19:54
sebsebsebsince the day change etc19:54
nhainesiBobX: jono uses Ubuntu for day-to-day stuff but has to use a Mac for his professional recording.19:54
iBobX:)19:55
sebsebsebQUESTION: Why did the Q&A change to Tuesday ike two months or so ago?  I nearly completly forgot today, but here for guitair time now I guess.19:55
iBobXYeah that's what I though... I was just curious... :)19:55
iBobXThere are lots of great Applications for musician available on Ubuntu though... :)19:56
ferikoszeghyahoj potřebuji vědět zdali se chistá nějaký softver na cizí řeči překládání zvukově .19:56
BillynkidQUESTION: What do you think 24:04 might look like?19:56
BillynkidSorry 24.0419:56
nhainesferikoszeghy: can you do that testing in another channel though?  :P19:57
who_meIt was not *that* bad if your friend still has that job :P19:57
snwhjono, huh I didn't get that G+ message.19:57
Dermot_Devoohh .. bass :)19:57
BillynkidNike Trainers Edition!19:57
ukbeastPower LACES!19:58
Dermot_Devbass -boost ON ...19:58
ferikoszeghyMůže li mi někdo pomoci a tršku se mi věnovat přez skype budu moc rád  moje jméno je František Koszeghy =fk0007319:58
nhainesPOWER LACES!19:58
ukbeastThought my room was messy19:58
ukbeastjokes19:58
Dermot_Dev:)19:58
nhainesferikoszeghy: this isn't the place to ask about that.19:59
who_me*pulls cable* lights go out in the house :P19:59
Dermot_Devjust had a back-to-the-future flasback ..19:59
ukbeastSenheiser HD202.19:59
ukbeastmmm19:59
ukbeast:)19:59
Mauritzyes19:59
AironOnPc(y)20:00
Dermot_DevSennheiser RS170 .. ' closed -loop ' = private .20:00
nhainesSounds good.20:00
ukbeast:3 nice20:00
iBobXAWESOME20:00
Dermot_Devmeanwhile in mexhico ...20:00
ukbeastMicrosoft uses employees as instruments20:01
Mauritzukbeast and money as toiletpaper? right?20:01
richmusa1and then?20:02
Dermot_Devukbeast, Yeah they talk about that on LAS 300 .. anyone see it ?20:02
ukbeastMauritz only $100 bills20:02
MauritzXD20:02
ukbeastWOOT20:02
iBobXAWESOME20:03
iBobXyou think you can do this? https://vine.co/v/Ma6jLnMHAZT20:03
iBobX:D20:03
iBobXLOL20:03
who_methank you!20:03
BillynkidThx20:03
Dermot_Devbye jono .. have a good week ... :D20:03
nhainesjono: I'm really looking foward to seeing you at SCALE. :D20:03
jononhaines, ditto :-)20:04
jonothanks all!20:04
CrusaderADThanks Jono!20:04
iBobXTHANKS!!!20:04
ukbeastJust get back from work in time tomorrow. nice20:04
MauritzBye20:04
Dermot_Devbye all ..20:05
iBobXthat was good, thanks20:05
iBobXbye20:05
Adam_fazeyes i  can here you loud and clear20:06
metnickgri can see you too..20:14
eran132hi all21:39
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