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| miseria | "ajedrez batalla entre negros y blancos, al final del final el blanco no tendra peones y el negro prevalecera" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival* | 03:04 |
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| miseria | "ajedrez batalla entre negros y blancos, al final del final el blanco no tendra peones y el negro prevalecera" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival* | 03:07 |
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| makara | hi. I'm trying to PXE boot 12.04 from LAN | 07:40 |
| makara | I setup DNSMASQ with TFTP to provide the ISO | 07:41 |
| makara | It loads the ISO and setup asks what language and some other steps, but then it gives error | 07:41 |
| makara | can't find the CD-ROM | 07:42 |
| MannerMan | Does anyone have experience with spacewalk as central patch management for Ubuntu? Landscape looks really nice however since it comes via Ubuntu Advantage program its really expensive | 09:02 |
| MannerMan | got around 90 machines to manage | 09:03 |
| TJ- | You should look at similar tools like Puppet, Chef, Salt, Ansible, cobbler | 09:09 |
| MannerMan | TJ-: Already got puppet going | 09:22 |
| MannerMan | however ensure => latest is not what i'm looking for really | 09:22 |
| MannerMan | Puppet is great for config management but its not great at managing patches in a sane way | 09:24 |
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| * maxb is using the simple approach: collect "apt-get -qqs dist-upgrade" from each machine, feed it through some simple analysis scripts | 09:31 | |
| TJ- | MannerMan: what do you mean by 'patches' ? OS package upgrades? Custom packages? | 09:34 |
| MannerMan | TJ-, OS upgrades, we run a PHP based webapplication, so nginx/php/postgres patches are very important to us | 09:36 |
| MannerMan | we must make sure that all machines have the same application stack, version wise | 09:36 |
| TJ- | Well "patch" has a very specific meaning, as in a source-code diff fed to the 'patch' tool. OS binary package upgrades are not patches (on Debian/Ubuntu) they're complete replacement packages... the terminology was confusing me a bit | 09:37 |
| MannerMan | TJ-, I see, sorry to have caused confusion | 09:38 |
| MannerMan | Maybe package upgrades is a better termiology | 09:39 |
| TJ- | Yeah :) I also get annoyed with Debian's apt terminology - we talk about 'updating' packages but we use "apt-get upgrade" ... but we use "upgrades" to mean change between releases! | 09:40 |
| MannerMan | TJ-: It's a mess :P | 09:41 |
| MannerMan | Anyways, the spacewalk way of putting the entire package-upgrade process in one place, where one can get an overview and trigger upgrades for several machines is exactly what I'm after | 09:42 |
| MannerMan | It's debian/ubuntu compability seems to be lacking though | 09:43 |
| TJ- | Surely Puppet's configuration management does the same thing? | 09:43 |
| TJ- | That's what MCollective is about - orchestration | 09:44 |
| MannerMan | Not that I know of, you can in your puppet module specify to ensure the latest package to be installed, but you have no idea when updates are available, what they change etc | 09:45 |
| TJ- | http://puppetlabs.com/mcollective | 09:45 |
| MannerMan | TJ-, I suppose you could use this to collect available upgrades and then trigger the update process with puppet, will check it out | 09:53 |
| gnuoy | Hi, I've fired up a couple of machines in an openstack cloud using precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1 and cloud-init is failing: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6953779/ | 10:42 |
| gnuoy | I'm getting the same failure when using an image from 20140113 and 20140217 | 10:43 |
| gnuoy | hang on, I see more info in cloud-init-output.log , looks like a problem accessing juju-tools, sorry for the noise | 10:46 |
| jamespage | rbasak, your resync commits for mysql-5.5 look good to me - I'm just test building now | 12:28 |
| rbasak | jamespage: thanks! With FF coming up, I was just going to upload the Ubuntu merge anyway. If you can do a Debian release for me to rebase against, that would be great. | 12:29 |
| jamespage | rbasak, how much delta is left after that? | 12:29 |
| rbasak | jamespage: very little. Off the top of my head: apport, upstart, and the debhelper postrm token thing (upstart needs the debhelper postrm token thing) | 12:30 |
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| hxm | someone know an alternative to jira by atlassian opensource? | 13:23 |
| RealKillaz | Hi There.. | 13:29 |
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| MannerMan | hxm; http://www.bugzilla.org/ | 14:45 |
| rbasak | zul: do you have a minute, and if so, could you please upload a no-change rebuild to php-json for me? I don't have upload rights. I've emailed the DMB to have it added to the server set, but I guess that'll take a while. | 14:48 |
| zul | rbasak: or i could sign it and upload for you :) | 14:48 |
| rbasak | zul: sure. I have it right here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954730/ | 14:49 |
| rbasak | zul: or do you want changes file etc somewhere? | 14:49 |
| zul | rbasak: please | 14:49 |
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| rbasak | zul: that broke things, sorry. I'll handle it (or rather Colin, in #ubuntu-devel) | 15:09 |
| jamespage | rbasak, I've committed your sync changes to the mysql-5.5 repo - thanks | 15:09 |
| rbasak | jamespage: thanks! | 15:09 |
| jamespage | I'll ping SpamapS to discuss a release this week if possible | 15:09 |
| zul | rbasak: greeeeeat | 15:10 |
| rbasak | zul: it's an awkward dependency loop | 15:10 |
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| hxm | MannerMan: thanks | 15:33 |
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| zul | rbasak: ftbfs as well | 15:46 |
| rbasak | zul: yup - that's the issue. It's a circular dependency. Colin will take care of it with a bootstrap archive - AIUI, there's nothing I can do. | 15:50 |
| caribou | jamespage: FYI, I won't make it to the weekly meeting, sorry for that | 15:51 |
| caribou | jamespage: but I don't have anything on my side | 15:51 |
| jamespage | caribou, ok | 15:51 |
| rbasak | jamespage: SpamapS: feature freeze being on Thursday, I want to upload a mysql-5.5 merge to Ubuntu before then. A Debian release today or tomorrow would be nice. If not, then I can just keep the delta. Thoughts? | 15:58 |
| jamespage | rbasak, pinged SpamapS on #debian-mysql as well | 16:00 |
| arosales | jamespage, looks like I may be up to host the meeting this week again as I didn't send minutes | 16:00 |
| * arosales fail | 16:00 | |
| rbasak | Thanks. Sorry - I don't have OFTC on auto-connect/join. | 16:00 |
| jamespage | arosales, I noticed | 16:00 |
| xerxas | Hi all ! is there a way to configure PS1 system wide ? | 16:09 |
| xerxas | I think skel overrides PS1, but I'm not sure | 16:10 |
| xerxas | so /etc/profile.d , doesn't work ... | 16:10 |
| jamespage | zul, is dovecot mean't to use the snakeoil certs? its not right now (and in 12.04) | 16:10 |
| zul | jamespage: afaik yes | 16:10 |
| zul | jamespage: s/afaik/iirc/g :) | 16:11 |
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| rickbeldin | caribou: you still here? | 16:30 |
| rickbeldin | If I make a change to /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf on precise (12.04), do I need to rebuild the ramfs to use it? | 16:33 |
| TJ- | rickbeldin: No | 16:36 |
| TJ- | rickbeldin: Changes under /etc/initamfs-tools/ ... yes | 16:36 |
| rickbeldin | TJ: Thanks. The option I am trying to set in hpsa.conf will change the behavior of the disk controller for the disk used by root. | 16:37 |
| TJ- | rickbeldin: I'm not sure how you deal with that, actually! | 16:38 |
| rickbeldin | On RHEL, I would just modify the conf file, rebuild initramfs. | 16:39 |
| TJ- | yeah, in the initrd image there's "/conf/modules" ... just can't remember seeing the hooks that write to it | 16:40 |
| rickbeldin | TY: Tore apart initrd and it has the hpsa file, but it is empty. Grrr. | 16:46 |
| jamespage | coreycb, hey - do you want to chat about that rename? | 16:46 |
| coreycb | jamespage, yeah probably a good idea | 16:47 |
| rickbeldin | TY: and I accidentally deleted the contents. ;) | 16:47 |
| jamespage | coreycb, this is probably a good place to start | 16:47 |
| jamespage | https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package | 16:47 |
| jamespage | coreycb, debcheckout -a neutron will get you the right branch to work on as well | 16:48 |
| coreycb | jamespage, great thanks | 16:49 |
| LeMike | ab -A user:password is to login in a site using htpasswd. but I don't want to have my password in the history or shown somehow in the shell. how to avoid that? | 16:50 |
| coreycb | jamespage, it looks like neutron and the corresponding charm will need the update? | 16:50 |
| jamespage | coreycb, yeah - the charm probably does need some work - but charm renames are not really supported | 16:51 |
| jamespage | renames on upgrade that is | 16:51 |
| jamespage | lets nail the packaging first, then workout the charm details | 16:51 |
| jamespage | NVP -> NSX I suspect | 16:51 |
| coreycb | jamespage, sounds good | 16:51 |
| caribou | rickbeldin: I'm here | 17:06 |
| rickbeldin | caribou: 2.6.32 doesn't boot. New failure mode with hpsa_simple_mode=1 and latest driver. still no go. If you have packages for me to try, I can do it. | 17:16 |
| caribou | rickbeldin: yeah, saw your comment | 17:16 |
| roadmr | Hello ubuntu-server people. We're looking at removing checkbox (checkbox-cli package) from the ubuntu server image for several reasons. I'd like to ask if anybody has objections about this (or really any other comment about it) | 17:16 |
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| LeMike | got it now. simple one :) https://github.com/sourcerer-mike/shell-files/blob/master/usr/local/bin/abc | 17:28 |
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| rostam | Hi I am using ubuntu 12.04. After sudden shutdown, I am not able to login. After entering the password, for a moment It seems I am in, but then it goes back to login shell. So I do not think the issue is password. Any help greatly appreiciated please? thx | 18:38 |
| sarnold | rostam: if you can't sort out anything else, you can boot into single user mode (add "single" to the kernel command line in grub) or if that doens't work, boot with init=/bin/sh -- that'll give you a shell you can use to investigate and fix | 18:40 |
| rostam | sarnold, how could I stop the boot at grub menu? | 18:43 |
| sarnold | rostam: maybe left shift? I forget.. | 18:43 |
| rostam | sarnold that did it thanks so much | 18:47 |
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| rostam | HI I have installed ubuntu 12.04. update 3 on my server. How do I upgrade to update 4? Thx | 20:31 |
| ikonia | is update 4 out yet ? | 20:31 |
| rostam | I think so I just download it. ubuntu-12.04.4-server-amd64.iso | 20:32 |
| ikonia | rostam: should auto update/offer the update when it hits your repo | 20:39 |
| ikonia | you won't see any "upgrade" just a few packages | 20:39 |
| rostam | ikonia, thanks | 20:48 |
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| tomreyn | is systemd required on 13.10 to bring up network interfaces? | 21:36 |
| hxm | i added a crontab every 10 minutes and it is sending me an email every time the cron is executed | 21:37 |
| hxm | dafuq? | 21:37 |
| Pici | If the job sends something to stdout (and maybe stderr too?), it will get sent to the user that ran the job | 21:37 |
| tomreyn | hxm: standard behavior when there is output | 21:38 |
| bekks | Thats expected when you configured cron to send mails- | 21:38 |
| hxm | ah, then I forgot the >> /dev/nul no? | 21:38 |
| bekks | /dev/null | 21:38 |
| hxm | yes | 21:38 |
| Pici | > /dev/null 2>&1 | 21:38 |
| Pici | (unless of course, you want stderr output to get emailed to you) | 21:39 |
| hxm | the proper script sends me an email if needed so I guess I dont need the output | 21:39 |
| tomreyn | would one of you know about systemd + /etc/network/interfaces ? | 21:40 |
| tomreyn | my problem here is that the interface i configured in /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth0 just doesn't seem to come up at boot. | 21:40 |
| tomreyn | but the system seems to boot up fine otherwise | 21:41 |
| tomreyn | there's no error message logged about being unable to bring it up | 21:41 |
| tomreyn | but i can't ping it, nor can it resolve its ntp host | 21:42 |
| roadmr | tomreyn: can you bring it up manually with 'ifup eth0'? | 21:46 |
| tomreyn | it's remote | 21:46 |
| tomreyn | only have a netbooted recovery system + syslog to play with | 21:47 |
| tomreyn | i installed using debootstrap | 21:47 |
| roadmr | oops :/ | 21:47 |
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