[03:04] <miseria> "ajedrez batalla entre negros y blancos, al final del final el blanco no tendra peones y el negro prevalecera" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[03:07] <miseria> "ajedrez batalla entre negros y blancos, al final del final el blanco no tendra peones y el negro prevalecera" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[07:40] <makara> hi. I'm trying to PXE boot 12.04 from LAN
[07:41] <makara> I setup DNSMASQ with TFTP to provide the ISO
[07:41] <makara> It loads the ISO and setup asks what language and some other steps, but then it gives error
[07:42] <makara> can't find the CD-ROM
[09:02] <MannerMan> Does anyone have experience with spacewalk as central patch management for Ubuntu? Landscape looks really nice however since it comes via Ubuntu Advantage program its really expensive
[09:03] <MannerMan> got around 90 machines to manage
[09:09] <TJ-> You should look at similar tools like Puppet, Chef, Salt, Ansible, cobbler
[09:22] <MannerMan> TJ-: Already got puppet going
[09:22] <MannerMan> however ensure => latest is not what i'm looking for really
[09:24] <MannerMan> Puppet is great for config management but its not great at managing patches in a sane way
[09:31]  * maxb is using the simple approach: collect "apt-get -qqs dist-upgrade" from each machine, feed it through some simple analysis scripts
[09:34] <TJ-> MannerMan: what do you mean by 'patches' ? OS package upgrades? Custom packages?
[09:36] <MannerMan> TJ-, OS upgrades, we run a PHP based webapplication, so nginx/php/postgres patches are very important to us
[09:36] <MannerMan> we must make sure that all machines have the same application stack, version wise
[09:37] <TJ-> Well "patch" has a very specific meaning, as in a source-code diff fed to the 'patch' tool. OS binary package upgrades are not patches (on Debian/Ubuntu) they're complete replacement packages... the terminology was confusing me a bit
[09:38] <MannerMan> TJ-, I see, sorry to have caused confusion
[09:39] <MannerMan> Maybe package upgrades is a better termiology
[09:40] <TJ-> Yeah :)  I also get annoyed with Debian's apt terminology - we talk about 'updating' packages but we use "apt-get upgrade" ... but we use "upgrades" to mean change between releases!
[09:41] <MannerMan> TJ-: It's a mess :P
[09:42] <MannerMan> Anyways, the spacewalk way of putting the entire package-upgrade process in one place, where one can get an overview and trigger upgrades for several machines is exactly what I'm after
[09:43] <MannerMan> It's debian/ubuntu compability seems to be lacking though
[09:43] <TJ-> Surely Puppet's configuration management does the same thing?
[09:44] <TJ-> That's what MCollective is about - orchestration
[09:45] <MannerMan> Not that I know of, you can in your puppet module specify to ensure the latest package to be installed, but you have no idea when updates are available, what they change etc
[09:45] <TJ-> http://puppetlabs.com/mcollective
[09:53] <MannerMan> TJ-, I suppose you could use this to collect available upgrades and then trigger the update process with puppet, will check it out
[10:42] <gnuoy> Hi, I've fired up a couple of machines in an openstack cloud using precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1 and cloud-init is failing: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6953779/
[10:43] <gnuoy> I'm getting the same failure when using an image from 20140113 and 20140217
[10:46] <gnuoy> hang on, I see more info in cloud-init-output.log , looks like a problem accessing juju-tools, sorry for the noise
[12:28] <jamespage> rbasak, your resync commits for mysql-5.5 look good to me - I'm just test building now
[12:29] <rbasak> jamespage: thanks! With FF coming up, I was just going to upload the Ubuntu merge anyway. If you can do a Debian release for me to rebase against, that would be great.
[12:29] <jamespage> rbasak, how much delta is left after that?
[12:30] <rbasak> jamespage: very little. Off the top of my head: apport, upstart, and the debhelper postrm token thing (upstart needs the debhelper postrm token thing)
[13:23] <hxm> someone know an alternative to jira by atlassian opensource?
[13:29] <RealKillaz> Hi There..
[14:45] <MannerMan> hxm; http://www.bugzilla.org/
[14:48] <rbasak> zul: do you have a minute, and if so, could you please upload a no-change rebuild to php-json for me? I don't have upload rights. I've emailed the DMB to have it added to the server set, but I guess that'll take a while.
[14:48] <zul> rbasak:  or i could sign it and upload for you :)
[14:49] <rbasak> zul: sure. I have it right here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954730/
[14:49] <rbasak> zul: or do you want changes file etc somewhere?
[14:49] <zul> rbasak:  please
[15:09] <rbasak> zul: that broke things, sorry. I'll handle it (or rather Colin, in #ubuntu-devel)
[15:09] <jamespage> rbasak, I've committed your sync changes to the mysql-5.5 repo - thanks
[15:09] <rbasak> jamespage: thanks!
[15:09] <jamespage> I'll ping SpamapS to discuss a release this week if possible
[15:10] <zul> rbasak:  greeeeeat
[15:10] <rbasak> zul: it's an awkward dependency loop
[15:33] <hxm> MannerMan: thanks
[15:46] <zul> rbasak:  ftbfs as well
[15:50] <rbasak> zul: yup - that's the issue. It's a circular dependency. Colin will take care of it with a bootstrap archive - AIUI, there's nothing I can do.
[15:51] <caribou> jamespage: FYI, I won't make it to the weekly meeting, sorry for that
[15:51] <caribou> jamespage: but I don't have anything on my side
[15:51] <jamespage> caribou, ok
[15:58] <rbasak> jamespage: SpamapS: feature freeze being on Thursday, I want to upload a mysql-5.5 merge to Ubuntu before then. A Debian release today or tomorrow would be nice. If not, then I can just keep the delta. Thoughts?
[16:00] <jamespage> rbasak, pinged SpamapS on #debian-mysql as well
[16:00] <arosales> jamespage, looks like I may be up to host the meeting this week again as I didn't send minutes
[16:00]  * arosales fail
[16:00] <rbasak> Thanks. Sorry - I don't have OFTC on auto-connect/join.
[16:00] <jamespage> arosales, I noticed
[16:09] <xerxas> Hi all ! is there a way to configure PS1 system wide ?
[16:10] <xerxas> I think skel overrides PS1, but I'm not sure
[16:10] <xerxas> so /etc/profile.d , doesn't work ...
[16:10] <jamespage> zul, is dovecot mean't to use the snakeoil certs? its not right now (and in 12.04)
[16:10] <zul> jamespage:  afaik yes
[16:11] <zul> jamespage:  s/afaik/iirc/g :)
[16:30] <rickbeldin> caribou: you still here?
[16:33] <rickbeldin> If I make a change to /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf on precise (12.04), do I need to rebuild the ramfs to use it?
[16:36] <TJ-> rickbeldin: No
[16:36] <TJ-> rickbeldin: Changes under /etc/initamfs-tools/  ... yes
[16:37] <rickbeldin> TJ: Thanks.  The option I am trying to set in hpsa.conf will change the behavior of the disk controller for the disk used by root.
[16:38] <TJ-> rickbeldin: I'm not sure how you deal with that, actually!
[16:39] <rickbeldin> On RHEL, I would just modify the conf file, rebuild initramfs.
[16:40] <TJ-> yeah, in the initrd image there's "/conf/modules" ... just can't remember seeing the hooks that write to it
[16:46] <rickbeldin> TY:  Tore apart initrd and it has the hpsa file, but it is empty.  Grrr.
[16:46] <jamespage> coreycb, hey - do you want to chat about that rename?
[16:47] <coreycb> jamespage, yeah probably a good idea
[16:47] <rickbeldin> TY: and I accidentally deleted the contents. ;)
[16:47] <jamespage> coreycb, this is probably a good place to start
[16:47] <jamespage> https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package
[16:48] <jamespage> coreycb, debcheckout -a neutron will get you the right branch to work on as well
[16:49] <coreycb> jamespage, great thanks
[16:50] <LeMike> ab -A user:password is to login in a site using htpasswd. but I don't want to have my password in the history or shown somehow in the shell. how to avoid that?
[16:50] <coreycb> jamespage, it looks like neutron and the corresponding charm will need the update?
[16:51] <jamespage> coreycb, yeah - the charm probably does need some work - but charm renames are not really supported
[16:51] <jamespage> renames on upgrade that is
[16:51] <jamespage> lets nail the packaging first, then workout the charm details
[16:51] <jamespage> NVP -> NSX I suspect
[16:51] <coreycb> jamespage, sounds good
[17:06] <caribou> rickbeldin: I'm here
[17:16] <rickbeldin> caribou:  2.6.32 doesn't boot.  New failure mode with hpsa_simple_mode=1 and latest driver.  still no go.  If you have packages for me to try, I can do it.
[17:16] <caribou> rickbeldin: yeah, saw your comment
[17:16] <roadmr> Hello ubuntu-server people. We're looking at removing checkbox (checkbox-cli package) from the ubuntu server image for several reasons. I'd like to ask if anybody has objections about this (or really any other comment about it)
[17:28] <LeMike> got it now. simple one :) https://github.com/sourcerer-mike/shell-files/blob/master/usr/local/bin/abc
[18:38] <rostam> Hi I am using ubuntu 12.04. After sudden shutdown, I am not able to login. After entering the password, for a moment It seems I am in, but then it goes back to login shell. So I do not think the issue is password. Any help greatly appreiciated please? thx
[18:40] <sarnold> rostam: if you can't sort out anything else, you can boot into single user mode (add "single" to the kernel command line in grub) or if that doens't work, boot with init=/bin/sh  -- that'll give you a shell you can use to investigate and fix
[18:43] <rostam> sarnold,  how could I stop the boot at grub menu?
[18:43] <sarnold> rostam: maybe left shift? I forget..
[18:47] <rostam> sarnold that did it thanks so much
[20:31] <rostam> HI I have installed ubuntu 12.04. update 3 on my server. How do I upgrade to update 4? Thx
[20:31] <ikonia> is update 4 out yet ?
[20:32] <rostam> I think so I just download it. ubuntu-12.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[20:39] <ikonia> rostam: should auto update/offer the update when it hits your repo
[20:39] <ikonia> you won't see any "upgrade" just a few packages
[20:48] <rostam> ikonia, thanks
[21:36] <tomreyn> is systemd required on 13.10 to bring up network interfaces?
[21:37] <hxm> i added a crontab every 10 minutes and it is sending me an email every time the cron is executed
[21:37] <hxm> dafuq?
[21:37] <Pici> If the job sends something to stdout (and maybe stderr too?), it will get sent to the user that ran the job
[21:38] <tomreyn> hxm: standard behavior when there is output
[21:38] <bekks> Thats expected when you configured cron to send mails-
[21:38] <hxm> ah, then I forgot the >> /dev/nul no?
[21:38] <bekks>  /dev/null
[21:38] <hxm> yes
[21:38] <Pici> > /dev/null 2>&1
[21:39] <Pici> (unless of course, you want stderr output to get emailed to you)
[21:39] <hxm> the proper script sends me an email if needed so I guess I dont need the output
[21:40] <tomreyn> would one of you know about systemd + /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:40] <tomreyn> my problem here is that the interface i configured in /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth0 just doesn't seem to come up at boot.
[21:41] <tomreyn> but the system seems to boot up fine otherwise
[21:41] <tomreyn> there's no error message logged about being unable to bring it up
[21:42] <tomreyn> but i can't ping it, nor can it resolve its ntp host
[21:46] <roadmr> tomreyn: can you bring it up manually with 'ifup eth0'?
[21:46] <tomreyn> it's remote
[21:47] <tomreyn>  only have a netbooted recovery system + syslog to play with
[21:47] <tomreyn> i installed using debootstrap
[21:47] <roadmr> oops :/